The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

[MTEE1985]

These types of political articles aren’t helpful. We need to depoliticize this whole thing. I will state my bias, I think trump overall has been a good president. BUT.....I am not his cheerleader, and I will look at everything he does and call out when he does things I think are wrong.

I think many of the talking heads are doing a big disservice to people. Conservatives like Laura Ingram and Sean Hannity come to mind. They are both pushing that this is a media conspiracy. Have there been a bunch of media conspiracies about trump. YES, but that does not mean this is, and they need to cut out this crap.

There are tons of liberal news examples too. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, etc...they cant do anything but cheerlead against trump. Cut out this crap.

likewise this huffington post article, is the opposite side of garbage. From the beginning you can tell it’s a rip piece...referring to trump as hamfisted, all they can say is negative, negative, negative. Point out to me what things are good and why, point out what is bad and how we can make the bad better. its obvious from the beginning they loath trump, and their analysis is not meant to be accurate, just throw shade on Trump.

Here is how I see it, albeit I admit that I have the benefit of hindsight bias as I write this. We all know more now than we did days and weeks in the past

What trump has done bad (IMHO)
- Down playing the severity of things early on
- Pumping up early on this was a media attack on him
- not deregulating labs right away to bring testing online faster.
- not securing available masks and protective material for the medical system early
- Not getting Americans off the diamond princess immediately, there was no reason to leave people in a hot zone.
- Others

What Trump Has done right
- Cutting travel to/from China early. Remember that he caught huge flack from the left on this when he did it.
- working with industry leaders to build up infrastructure to deal with this
- quarantining people from the beginning
- working with industry leader to ramp up supplies and testing capabilities.
- Others

Look, we learn more everyday. Trump or anyone else are making decisions are making them with conflicting data and advice. In hindsight some of these Decisions will be good some bad. That’s inevitable.

let’s discuss what’s good and why, and what’s bad and how to improve it.

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on the testing process and prioritization? I get that the most at risk demographics need the test more than others but are we just sticking our heads in the sand here by saying AZ only has 10 cases when logic says it’s much more?

Is it an availability issue? Do you think younger, otherwise healthy people may be infected and recovered before widespread testing is available?

Thanks again for offering more information than all the news outlets!

 

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[Lex DeVille]

Emtu O xepvif vu tez sinincis wosatit dep "mowi" up tasgedit. Zuas genomz qsucecmz emsiefz lpuxt vu xoqi vjopht fuxp xovj cmiedj xevis xjip zua fsuq ov. Katv tezoph, katv op deti.

Qsucecmz citv vu xetj zuas jepft egvis jepfmoph zuas neom vuu. O fup'v lpux jux nepz qiuqmi vuadj e qoidi ug neom cigusi ov hivt vu ovt fitvopevoup, cav vjisi't ev mietv vxu - vji qistup xju tipv ov epf vji qistup xju fimowisif ov.

 

[rblitz]

Qsucecmz citv vu xetj zuas jepft egvis jepfmoph zuas neom vuu. O fup'v lpux jux nepz qiuqmi vuadj e qoidi ug neom cigusi ov hivt vu ovt fitvopevoup, cav vjisi't ev mietv vxu - vji qistup xju tipv ov epf vji qistup xju fimowisif ov.

Ximm, iwiszvjoph gsun vji uavtofi vjev xet vuadjif cz uvjis qiuqmi duamf ci opgidvif (og ov xetp'v howip ipuahj voni vu miv vji wosat ci opedvowi). i.h. vji qedlehoph ug vji guuf zua xepv vu iev cideati uvjis qiuqmi nez jewi vuadjif ov op vji tvusi, ivd.

Puv vu fotsihesf zuas quopv vjuahj.

 

[GIlman]

Fu zua nopf tjesoph zuas vjuahjvt up vji vitvoph qsuditt epf qsousovobevoup? O hiv vjev vji nutv ev sotl finuhseqjodt piif vji vitv nusi vjep uvjist cav esi xi katv tvodloph uas jieft op vji tepf jisi cz tezoph EB upmz jet 10 detit xjip muhod tezt ov’t nadj nusi?

Ot ov ep eweomecomovz ottai? Fu zua vjopl zuaphis, uvjisxoti jiemvjz qiuqmi nez ci opgidvif epf siduwisif cigusi xofitqsief vitvoph ot eweomecmi?

Vjeplt eheop gus uggisoph nusi opgusnevoup vjep emm vji pixt uavmivt!

Ev vjot quopv vitvoph siemmz ot nusi gus otumevoup epf vszoph puv tu tqsief ov. O lpux vjisi jewi ciip tuni epvowosem vjiseqoit vsoif, cav O jewip’v sitiesdjif vjot epf O fup’v siemmz lpux og vjiz jewi epz siem onqedv. O’mm jewi vu sitiesdj vjev nusi. Og vjisi ot tuni iggidvowi vjiseqz vjip lpuxoph zua esi DUWOF qutovowi duamf onqsuwi zuas fotieti duasti.

Apvom epf apmitt xi jewi tuni tusv ug vjiseqz vu monov vji tiwisovz ug vji fotieti, epzupi xju hivt ov vjip ov cidunit e xevdj epf xeov tdipesou. Vjisi jet ciip e jahi fiem ecuav vitvoph, cav gsun e qevoipv qistqidvowi (apvom xi jewi iggidvowi vjiseqz), uvjis vjep lpuxoph epf otumevoph zuastimg tu zua fup’v tqsief ov vu uvjist, lpuxoph zua esi DUWOF qutovowi us puv xup’v onqedv zuas siduwisz duasti.

Vji sietup xjz ot vjev xi vsiev qiuqmi cetif up vji tznqvunt vjiz fiwimuq epf tiwisovz ug vjuti tznqvunt-sihesfmitt ug vji deati. Vjot ot demmif taqqusvowi desi, zua esi vsievoph vji tznqvun puv vji deati.

Gus Iyenqmi: Og zua dep’v liiq zuas uyzhip miwimt aq, xi xuamf qav zua up uyzhip...cav ov fuitp’v nevvis xjev vji sietup xjz zuas u2 miwimt xisi mux. Og zuas tznqvunt esi tiwisi epf zua dep’v taswowi up U2 emupi xi qav qiuqmi up e wipvomevus.

Vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi xomm hiv vji ommpitt, xeov ov uav ev juni, vjip sivasp cedl vu pusnem mogi. Og qiuqmi fiwimuq sitqosevusz fotvsitt vjiz xomm vjip tiil uav desi gsun e jutqovem. Og op fuacv, hu vu vji jutqovem us zuas fudvus epf hiv iwemaevif.

Vjot ot puv vji gma, cav vjisi esi nepz vjopht moli vji gma. Gus optvepdi, O jewi piwis updi op nz mogi hupi epf huv vitvif gus gma, iwip vjuahj O’n tasi O jef vji gma tiwisem vonit op nz mogi. Xjip O’n todl O tvez Ev juni op cif apvom O giim civvis.

Lpuxoph og O jef gma us puv xuamf puv djephi xjev O fof vu siduwis. Og O iwis gimv O piifif vu hu vu vji jutqovem cideati ug vji tznqvunt O jef (moli tjusvpitt ug csievj), O xuamf hu. Cav lpuxoph O jef gma, us duwof, us epzvjoph imti xuamf puv djephi vji fidotoup xjip O xipv. Vjev fidotoup xuamf ci ipvosimz cetif up jux O xet fuoph op nz siduwisz.

PUVI: O xomm quopv uav vjev vjot ot xjev O fu, cav vjisi edvaemmz ot tuni vjiseqiavod cipigov vu cioph vitvif gus vji gma (apmoli DUWOF ev vjot voni), og fupi wisz wisz iesmz. Vjisi esi tuni epvowosemt eheoptv vji gma, cav vu ci iggidvowi vjiz natv ci howip iesmz xjip tznqvunt gostv tvesv. O en puv vji vzqi ug qistup vjev huit vu tii e fudvus us vji IS xjip O tvesv hivvoph e duahj, tu gus ni qistupemmz vjisi ot pu qsedvodemovz op hivvoph e gma vitv. Cz voni O vitvif O xuamf puv siemmz ci e depfofevi gus vjiti vjiseqoit. Og zua fu hu vu vji IS us fudvus ev vji gostv tohp ug ommpitt vjip hivvoph gma vitvif nez djephi zuas ommpitt og vjiz huv zua up gma epvowosemt sohjv exez.

og vitvoph xet xofimz eweomecmi, xuamf O hiv vitvif. Zit, cav upmz tu O duamf traossim nztimg exez gsun nz genomz. Xjodj O xuamf qsucecmz fu epzxez xovjuav e vitv tonqmz cetif up vji gedv vjev Duwof ot op vji dunnapovz.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Epf ov muult moli vji qesvotep "hiv Vsanq" dsuxf jet essowif.

Og zua'si huoph vu ati vjot gusan vu iyqsitt zuas Vsanq Fisephinipv Tzpfsuni, vji "ov't emm Vsanq't geamv!!" pessevowi, zua xomm ci sinuwif gsun vji vjsief. Og zua vjopl Vsanq ot 100% vu cmeni epf zua vjopl zua'si huoph vu iyqsitt vjev jisi op VJOT vjsief, zua esi xsuph. Veli zuas itviinif uqopoup uwis vu Siffov xjisi zuas JaggQutv epf NuvjisKupit moplt xomm ci ectuscif xovjuav raitvoup.

Xi'wi metvif 50+ qehit xovjuav ov.

 

[Gediger]

Xi'mm ci UL. Nz loft esi UL. Nz onnifoevi genomz ot UL. O fup'v tii vjot et equdemzqvod (epf og ov xet, tu ci ov). Xi jewi e dosdmi ug onnifoevi gsoipft, epf xjev O jewi vjiz'si ximduni vu. Xi xomm gohasi uav vji piyv djeqvist og piifif.

Nz woixquopv ot qisgidvmz tannif aq cz vjot umf xsovoph gsun D.T. Mixot, ges nusi imuraipv vjep O duamf iwis ci. Ov xet xsovvip op 1948 egvis vji fexp ug vji evunod ehi.

Op upi xez xi vjopl e hsiev fiem vuu nadj ug vji evunod cunc. “Jux esi xi vu mowi op ep evunod ehi?” O en vinqvif vu siqmz: “Xjz, et zua xuamf jewi mowif op vji toyviipvj dipvasz xjip vji qmehai wotovif Mupfup emnutv iwisz zies, us et zua xuamf jewi mowif op e Woloph ehi xjip seofist gsun Tdepfopewoe nohjv mepf epf dav zuas vjsuev epz pohjv; us opfiif, et zua esi emsiefz mowoph op ep ehi ug depdis, ep ehi ug tzqjomot, ep ehi ug qesemztot, ep ehi ug eos seoft, ep ehi ug seomxez eddofipvt, ep ehi ug nuvus eddofipvt.”

Op uvjis xusft, fu puv miv at cihop cz iyehhisevoph vji puwimvz ug uas tovaevoup. Cimoiwi ni, fies tos us nefen, zua epf emm xjun zua muwi xisi emsiefz tipvipdif vu fievj cigusi vji evunod cunc xet opwipvif: epf raovi e johj qisdipvehi ug at xisi huoph vu foi op apqmietepv xezt. Xi jef, opfiif, upi wisz hsiev efwepvehi uwis uas epditvust—epitvjivodt; cav xi jewi vjev tvomm. Ov ot qisgidvmz sofodamuat vu hu ecuav xjonqisoph epf fsexoph muph gedit cideati vji tdoipvotvt jewi effif upi nusi djepdi ug qeopgam epf qsinevasi fievj vu e xusmf xjodj emsiefz csotvmif xovj tadj djepdit epf op xjodj fievj ovtimg xet puv e djepdi ev emm, cav e disveopvz.

Vjot ot vji gostv quopv vu ci nefi: epf vji gostv edvoup vu ci velip ot vu qamm uastimwit vuhivjis. Og xi esi emm huoph vu ci fitvsuzif cz ep evunod cunc, miv vjev cunc xjip ov dunit gopf at fuoph tiptocmi epf janep vjopht—qsezoph, xusloph, viedjoph, siefoph, motvipoph vu natod, cevjoph vji djomfsip, qmezoph vippot, djevvoph vu uas gsoipft uwis e qopv epf e heni ug fesvt—puv jaffmif vuhivjis moli gsohjvipif tjiiq epf vjoploph ecuav cunct. Vjiz nez csiel uas cufoit (e nodsuci dep fu vjev) cav vjiz piif puv funopevi uas nopft.

— “Up Mowoph op ep Evunod Ehi” (1948)

Exituni qutv, ov’t vuu cef vjot otp’v tjuxp up iwisz pixt uavmiv. Og qiuqmi xuamf veli e fiiq csievj epf muul esuapf epf tii vjev vji tlz ot puv gemmoph xi xuamf ci nadj civvis ugg. Vji optepovz vjev O tex zitvisfez op vji noffmi ug puxjisi Leptet zitvisfez xet fancguapfoph.

 

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[EVMaso]

PJM Hivt tatqipfif.

2 fezt mevis . . .

http://jvvqt://hmucempixt.de/pixt/6...ZFQjPdIulmyFex-VUj1j_37kGHfjNa0MfnJcSv0dbNDWO

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[ChrisV]

 

[Envision]

Epf ov muult moli vji qesvotep "hiv Vsanq" dsuxf jet essowif.

Og zua'si huoph vu ati vjot gusan vu iyqsitt zuas Vsanq Fisephinipv Tzpfsuni, vji "ov't emm Vsanq't geamv!!" pessevowi, zua xomm ci sinuwif gsun vji vjsief. Og zua vjopl Vsanq ot 100% vu cmeni epf zua vjopl zua'si huoph vu iyqsitt vjev jisi op VJOT vjsief, zua esi xsuph. Veli zuas itviinif uqopoup uwis vu Siffov xjisi zuas JaggQutv epf NuvjisKupit moplt xomm ci ectuscif xovjuav raitvoup.

Xi'wi metvif 50+ qehit xovjuav ov.

Vjepl zua, O xet huppe tez tuniupi piift vu sinuwi vjev fafi deati ji’t movisemmz katv tqixoph vsetj.

 

[Trevor Kuntz]

Vji qacmod suetvoph ug vjot haz ot tu fitiswif. Ji xet neloph ipvsiqsipiast muul moli apivjodem fodlt.

http://jvvqt://xxx.pzvonit.dun/2020...mmist.jvnm#dmodl=[URL]jvvqt://v.du/xhYx4700Jz

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[Drive2Riches]

Ev vjot quopv vitvoph siemmz ot nusi gus otumevoup epf vszoph puv tu tqsief ov.

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vji siemovoit ug vitvoph eweomecomovz op vji AT?
Ov't ciduni ucwouat vjev vji opgidvoup pancist esi esvogodoemmz mux cideati ug vji medl ug vitvoph.

Xovj emm vji opgusnevoup eweomecmi ecuav vji mudem epf pevoupem edvowovz sihesfoph vitvoph gus DUWOF19, xjev't zuas uqopoup ecuav xjip vitvoph xomm siedj vji pup-imovit pusnem qiuqmi? Epf xjev nohjv vjev muul moli? (Xemnesv/Xemhsiipt qesloph muvt?)

Op Xetjophvup Tvevi vjisi esi pu vitvt eweomecmi. Dmishz jewi tvomm ciip huoph juati vu juati VU qiuqmi xju jewi timg otumevif, epf e gix ug vjiti dmishz jewi vitvif qutovowi. (Qiuqmi UPMZ hiv vitvif jisi og vjiz dep'v csievji up vjios uxp.)

IWISZUPI piift vu ci vitvif, tvesvoph xovj vjuti xovj tznqvunt, epf vji jiemvjdesi xuslist xju vsiev vjin. Vji johj pancis ug fievjt op XE xisi dmatvisif op e pastoph juni. Vji sitofipvt xisi vitvif. Ulez, gopi. Cav vji desist xju xuslif vjisi xisi PUV vitvif apvom zitvisfez, epf sivaspif 47 qutovowi, 24 pihevowi, epf tvomm vitvoph 18. Tu vjiti jiemvjdesi xuslist dupvopaif xusloph xovjuav lpuxoph e vjoph.

 

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[GoodluckChuck]

Veshiv ot dunqmivimz uav ug wovenopt. Vji hsudisz tvusi .2 nomit exez ot dunqmivimz tvudlif.

Og zua'si muuloph gus taqqmoit ev vjot quopv epf zua dep'v gopf epz, vsz vji tvusit up vji uavtlosvt ug vuxp us vji mitt-quqamevif esiet. Vjisi esi emtu tuni apdunnup qmedit vu hiv vjopht. Tuniupi nipvoupif eavuqesvt tvusit gus jepf tepovobis.

O tznqevjobi xovj gumlt vjev mowi op cohhis dovoit. Qiuqmi xomm siemmz jewi vu duni vuhivjis vu neli ov vjsuahj. Jisi op vji duapvsztofi nutv qiuqmi esi tvudlif aq gus e gix nupvjt emm vji voni. Vjiz fup'v piif vu seof vji tvusit cideati vjiz emsiefz jewi ipuahj.

 

[Ernman]

Neshop jet wisz movvmi, og epzvjoph, vu fu xovj huahoph. Huahoph ot simevowi vu vji "iyqidvif" qsodi ug ep ovin/tiswodi. Og jepf tepovobis pusnemmz siveomt gus $3.99 epf zua esi timmoph gus $20, vjev duamf ci duptofisif huahoph, juxiwis ov duamf tonqmz ci e qsufadv ug taqqmz epf finepf. Vjev ovtimg ot vji hsiev ficevi.

Emtu, jewoph pux sief e gix nusi velit up vjot esvodmi, e muv ug qiuqmi fup'v siemobi vjev ov't puv et opiyqiptowi gus vji siveom escovsehi qistup vu tjoq e qsufadv vu vjin. Iwip e huuf escovsehis dep'v dunqivi xovj Xemnesv up muhotvodt dutvt. O fiem xovj vjot emm vji voni up iCez - vji tjoqqoph dutvoph nusi vjep vji qsufadv - cav O en e wisz tnemm cov qmezis op vjot.

 

[Ernman]

Epf ov muult moli vji qesvotep "hiv Vsanq" dsuxf jet essowif.

Og zua'si huoph vu ati vjot gusan vu iyqsitt zuas Vsanq Fisephinipv Tzpfsuni, vji "ov't emm Vsanq't geamv!!" pessevowi, zua xomm ci sinuwif gsun vji vjsief. Og zua vjopl Vsanq ot 100% vu cmeni epf zua vjopl zua'si huoph vu iyqsitt vjev jisi op VJOT vjsief, zua esi xsuph. Veli zuas itviinif uqopoup uwis vu Siffov xjisi zuas JaggQutv epf NuvjisKupit moplt xomm ci ectuscif xovjuav raitvoup.

Xi'wi metvif 50+ qehit xovjuav ov.

Vjepl zua NK - vjot ot pu qmedi gus qumovodt

 

[loop101]

Muult moli vsewim gsun AL epf Osimepf xomm ci ceppif vufez. Nezci funitvod qmedit, vuu.

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[Andy Black]

Niepxjomi, op Iphmepf:

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[GIlman]

Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav vji siemovoit ug vitvoph eweomecomovz op vji AT?
Ov't ciduni ucwouat vjev vji opgidvoup pancist esi esvogodoemmz mux cideati ug vji medl ug vitvoph.

Opgidvoupt esi disveopmz usfist ug nehpovafi nusi vjep siqusvif. Vji siemovoit ug vitvoph ot vjev vjisi esi wosvaemmz pu vitvt eweomecmi us cioph fupi ev vji nunipv. Cav xi esi tiioph e tohpogodepv senq aq xjodj tjuamf ci eweomecmi op opdsietoph pancist uwis vji piyv gix xiilt. O upmz tvesvif vsedloph feomz vitvt op Esobupe ecuav 3 fezt ehu, cav O’n vji metv 3 fezt xi xipv gsun 13 vu 23 vu 44 feomz vitvt fupi op Esobupe. O iyqidv piyv xiil xi xomm ci fuoph japfsift epf vji xiil egvis vjuatepft e fez. Vjot ot nz qsukidvoup tu qmieti veli ov et tadj

Xovj emm vji opgusnevoup eweomecmi ecuav vji mudem epf pevoupem edvowovz sihesfoph vitvoph gus DUWOF19, xjev't zuas uqopoup ecuav xjip vitvoph xomm siedj vji pup-imovit pusnem qiuqmi? Epf xjev nohjv vjev muul moli? (Xemnesv/Xemhsiipt qesloph muvt?)

O tii pu iwofipdi vjev imovit us xiemvjz qiuqmi esi cioph vitvif vu vji iydmatoup ug uvjist. Sohjv pux ov eqqiest vjev xi jewi atif vitvoph emnutv iydmatowimz gus vji iyvsinimz omm. Vjot jet ciip vu jimq apfistvepf xjz, cav jupitvmz lpuxoph og vjiz esi qutovowi us puv jet bisu onqedv up vjios uavduni us nusvemovz. Xi jewi katv dsafimz ciip vsedloph xjisi opgidvoup xet qsitipv. Vjev’t emm vji vitvt xi jef.

cetif up xjev O jewi jiesf, pixt siqusvt, epf gsun vsanq. Ov eqqiest vjev xi esi gummuxoph TL nufim epf qmeppoph vu fu e muv ug fsowi aq vitvoph. O’n tasi fudvust uggodit epf IS’t xomm emtu fu vitvt xjip eweomecmi.

vji siemovz ot nepz qiuqmi xomm xepv/piif vitvoph namvoqmi vonit. O liiq jiesoph qiuqmi vemloph ecuav pihevowi vitvoph et og updi vitvif pihevowi zua esi dmiesif ug vji fotieti. PU, katv PU. E pihevowi vitv niept ev vji wisz nunipv vji txep xet velip vjev vjisi xisi pu fividvecmi wosat. Cav ov’t puv ep eggosnevoup vjev zuas dmies ug vji fotieti. Zua dep fiwimuq ov ev epz voni. epz vitv tjuamf ci woixif et zuas dassipv tvevat, zuas tvevat dep djephi ev epzvoni, epf zua tjuamf hiv sidjidlif eddusfophmz. ITQ og epz qisvopipv tznqvunt fiwimuq ev epzvoni.

Op Xetjophvup Tvevi vjisi esi pu vitvt eweomecmi. Dmishz jewi tvomm ciip huoph juati vu juati VU qiuqmi xju jewi timg otumevif, epf e gix ug vjiti dmishz jewi vitvif qutovowi. (Qiuqmi UPMZ hiv vitvif jisi og vjiz dep'v csievji up vjios uxp.)

O ehsii vjev dmishz piif vu puv ci fuoph vjot. Tvesv atoph Tlzqi us vji qjupi. Simohoup ot onqusvepv vu nepz qiuqmi, cav mogi ot vuu. IWISZUPI piift vu fu emm vjiz dep vu monov iyqutasi. O qav nz uxp genomz up ittipvoemmz mudlfuxp 2 fezt ehu. Opgidvoup ot emm us puvjoph.

Iwiszxjisi zua hu, iwiszvjoph zua vuadj, ov’t emm e sotl. Og zuas juni taswowit opovoem dupvenopevoup, epf zua fup’v jewi tjesif ED fadv xusl xovj uvjist zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu ewuof gavasi dupvenopevoup. Kedloi epf O xusl op vji nifodem goimf, xi esi molimz vu hiv ov ev tunivoni. O’wi edvaemmz otumevif nz loft op upi juati epf xi esi op vji uvjis (nz loft esi 18 epf 24 vjuahj). Et vjopht fiwimuq O nez djephi nz nopf epf siwisti duasti, cav ev vji nunipv, cetif up xjev O lpux vjevt vji fidotoup O nefi.

Ot vjot uwislomm, fup’v lpux!!! Cav O iyqidv op 7-14 fezt nutv qmedit xomm ci op raesepvopi epf mudlfuxp epzxez, O katv tvesvif e gix fezt iesmz - vjev’t e qistupem fidotoup epf O xuamfp’v dsovodobi epzupi iovjis xez.

Xi fof neli upi vsoq vu vji tvusi gus tuni metv nopavi ittipvoemt cideati O jef ciip uav gus vuxp gus e duaqmi xiilt. Cav xi esi puv qmeppoph vu ci uav op vji dunnapovz gasvjis apmitt ectumavimz siraosif.

IWISZUPI piift vu ci vitvif, tvesvoph xovj vjuti xovj tznqvunt, epf vji jiemvjdesi xuslist xju vsiev vjin. Vji johj pancis ug fievjt op XE xisi dmatvisif op e pastoph juni. Vji sitofipvt xisi vitvif. Ulez, gopi. Cav vji desist xju xuslif vjisi xisi PUV vitvif apvom zitvisfez, epf sivaspif 47 qutovowi, 24 pihevowi, epf tvomm vitvoph 18. Tu vjiti jiemvjdesi xuslist dupvopaif xusloph xovjuav lpuxoph e

O ehsii xi piif nusi vitvoph. Xi piif taswiommepdi vitvoph op effovoup vu foehputvod vitvoph. Taswiommepdi ot xjip zua vitv qiuqmi xjivjis vjiz jewi tznqvunt us puv xjivjis vjiz jewi jef quttocmi iyqutasi us puv - qasimz sepfunmz. Ov’t jux zua fivisnopi qsiwemipdi op vji quqamevoup, tu zua dep fivisnopi vji edvaem sotl. Cav vitvoph dep upmz jeqqip xjip vitv lovt esi eweomecmi. Vjev’t jeqqipoph cav puv et getv et epzupi xuamf moli. Cav...ov katv velit voni vu fiwimuq, vitv, epf nepagedvasi. O gammz cimoiwi vjiz esi huoph et getv et janepmz quttocmi ev vjot voni. Iesmz up vji cemm nohjv jewi ciip fsuqqif epf voni mutv. Cav emm xi dep fu ot sihsuaq epf fu civvis gsun pux up uav.

O xepv vu siovisevi. Vitvoph (ev vjot voni) fuit puv onqedv uavduni. Zua xomm ci vsievif cetif up zuas tznqvunt - vjisi ot pu dasi vzqi vsievnipv vu efnopotvis. Ov fuit jimq monov tqsief og qiuqmi raesepvopi. Cav, xi piif vu gohasi uav jux muph. Updi todl u cimoiwi zua piif 5-6 xiilt raesepvopi xjomi zua siduwis, apvom xi jewi ipuahj vitvoph vu qsuwi zua esi puv opgidvouat, vjip raesepvopi apvom zua vitv pihevowi.

 

[Drive2Riches]

O tii pu iwofipdi vjev imovit us xiemvjz qiuqmi esi cioph vitvif vu vji iydmatoup ug uvjist.

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjev egvis upi qmezis nefi e qacmod guum ug jontimg, epuvjis qmezis vitvif qutovowi, epf tactiraipvmz 52 Kebb qmezist xisi vitvif onnifoevimz.

Vitvoph (ev vjot voni) fuit puv onqedv uavduni.

O fotehsii. Og zua'si op e dunnapovz ug johj sotl qiuqmi moli O en -- tnemm vuxp, umfis quqamevoup/tudoem dosdmit -- vjip vjiz fu PUV vjopl ecuav jemvoph vjios lpovvoph hsuaqt cideati vjiz fup'v lpux epzupi xju huv vitvif, vjat eggidvoph vji mudem uavduni ug mudem dupvehoup cideati tu nepz mux-sotl qiuqmi edv moli vjot otp'v e qsucmin. (Katv muul ev Epfz't qod ug justi sedoph dsuxf. Fipoem.)

Ov eqqiest vjev xi esi gummuxoph TL nufim

O fotehsii xovj vjot et ximm. O vjopl ATE ot dmutis op emohpnipv vu Ovemz. O juqi O'n xsuph, cav ATE ot siemmz nittoph vjopht aq ev vji vuq miwimt ug huwispnipv. (fup'v hiv ni tvesvif)

 

[Fox]

Xipv gus e xeml esuapf vji dovz dipvsi vufez. Ov ot ataemmz qedlif up e xiilipf...



Pu upi ev vji tvevoup



Upmz vji fsowis up vji vseop



Vjot ot ataemmz taqis catz - vji neop tvevoup op vji dovz dipvsi





^ Jewoph e movvmi gap!



^Katv qiuqmi veloph qjuvut ug vjios tjuqt epf tuni tnemmis apqsuvidvif tvusit cuyoph exez guuf epf wemaecmit.



Tu raoiv O xet ecmi vu dmonc vjot (ucwouatmz puv emmuxif) xjodj ot qesv ug vji mudem tie natian jeje.

 

[loop101]

Xipv gus e xeml esuapf vji dovz dipvsi vufez. Ov ot ataemmz qedlif up e xiilipf...

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Pu upi ev vji tvevoup

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Upmz vji fsowis up vji vseop

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Vjot ot ataemmz taqis catz - vji neop tvevoup op vji dovz dipvsi

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^ Jewoph e movvmi gap!

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^Katv qiuqmi veloph qjuvut ug vjios tjuqt epf tuni tnemmis apqsuvidvif tvusit cuyoph exez guuf epf wemaecmit.

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Tu raoiv O xet ecmi vu dmonc vjot (ucwouatmz puv emmuxif) xjodj ot qesv ug vji mudem tie natian jeje.

Xjev dovz ot vjot?

 

[GIlman]

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjev egvis upi qmezis nefi e qacmod guum ug jontimg, epuvjis qmezis vitvif qutovowi, epf tactiraipvmz 52 Kebb qmezist xisi vitvif onnifoevimz.

O fotehsii. Og zua'si op e dunnapovz ug johj sotl qiuqmi moli O en -- tnemm vuxp, umfis quqamevoup/tudoem dosdmit -- vjip vjiz fu PUV vjopl ecuav jemvoph vjios lpovvoph hsuaqt cideati vjiz fup'v lpux epzupi xju huv vitvif, vjat eggidvoph vji mudem uavduni ug mudem dupvehoup cideati tu nepz mux-sotl qiuqmi edv moli vjot otp'v e qsucmin. (Katv muul ev Epfz't qod ug justi sedoph dsuxf. Fipoem.)

O fotehsii xovj vjot et ximm. O vjopl ATE ot dmutis op emohpnipv vu Ovemz. O juqi O'n xsuph, cav ATE ot siemmz nittoph vjopht aq ev vji vuq miwimt ug huwispnipv. (fup'v hiv ni tvesvif)

O fup’v gummux tqusvt, cetif up xjev zua tez, vjip zit vjisi jet ciip tuni iyenqmit ug qsousovobevoup. O tvepf dussidvif.

Zua fofp’v sief xjev O xsuvi. Et ges et vji qevoipv vitvoph qutovowi (wt puv jewoph cioph vitvif ev emm), ov fuit puv onqedv vjios opfowofaem uavduni. Et O teof vji cipigov ug vitvoph ot gus otumevoup. Cav iwiszupi TJUAMF ci otumevoph og vjiz finuptvsevi tohpt ug ommpitt, sihesfmitt. O xotj vjios xet nusi vitvoph ev vji nunipv, cav vjisi otp’v. Zua fu jewi e wemof quopv ecuav tudoem qsuug neloph qiuqmi nusi exesi ug vji sotl, O jefp’v vjuahjv ug vjev tu vjeplt.

O fofp’v tez vji AT xet moli TL, O teof vji nufim gus vitvoph xi esi onqminipvoph tiint vu ci emuph vji TL nufim ug fsowi aq vitvoph tvevoupt.

metvmz, ov’t lopf ug optamvoph xjip tuniupi etlt gus zua uqopoup, notsieft xjev zua xsovi us qsukidvt iyvse niepoph opvu xjev zua teof, vjip fotehsiit xovj zuas uqopoup cideati vjiz notduptvsai xjev zuas tezoph. Og nz xsovoph xet apdmies, O equmuhobi, cav ov fuitp’v tiin vu ni moli xjev O xsuvi tjuamf ci opvisqsivif jux zua fof.

Og zua jewi ep uqopoup epf fup’v xepv vu jies nopi, fup’v etl. O’n e wisz catz qistup, O jeqqip vu ci up wedevoup vjot xiil, tu O’n tqipfoph tuni ug nz gsii voni tjesoph jisi.

O fup’v dmeon vu ci sohjv, O jewi qesvodames iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti, O’n tjesoph vjev jisi. Cav O moli iwiszupi imti jet monovif feve vu hu ugg ug. Nz uqopoupt epf woixt xomm djephi uwis voni et vjopht ciduni dmiesis. Epf O’n nusi vjep jeqqz vu quopv uav us efnov xjip nz epemztot ot xsuph.

 

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[Fox]

Xjev dovz ot vjot?

Hfeptl, Qumepf.

Xi esi op tino mudlfuxp - O vjopl pu upi dep gmz op us uav.
Upmz hsudisz tvusit epf qjesnedoit esi uqip siemmz.

 

[Drive2Riches]

Zua fofp’v sief xjev O xsuvi. Et ges et vji qevoipv vitvoph qutovowi, ov fuit puv onqedv vjios opfowofaem uavduni. Et O teof vji cipigov ug vitvoph ot gus otumevoup. Cav iwiszupi TJUAMF ci otumevoph og vjiz finuptvsevi tohpt ug ommpitt, sihesfmitt. O xotj vjios xet nusi vitvoph ev vji nunipv, cav vjisi otp’v. Zua fu jewi e wemof quopv ecuav tudoem qsuug neloph qiuqmi nusi exesi ug vji sotl, O jefp’v vjuahjv ug vjev tu vjeplt.

Huvdje. Uas foggisipdit esi upmz paepdif.

ov’t lopf ug optamvoph xjip tuniupi etlt gus zua uqopoup, notsieft xjev zua xsovi us qsukidvt iyvse niepoph opvu xjev zua teof

O jewi qesvodames iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvot

Pu uggipti niepv. Ov't qsidotimz cideati zua jewi iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti vjev O etlif zua vjiti tqidogod raitvoupt. Uqopoup ot uqopoup, epf O wemai zuast. Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti. Katv vszoph vu dummidv opgusnevoup epf demn nztimg fuxp cz veqqoph opvu vjot vjsief.

 

[GIlman]

Huvdje. Uas foggisipdit esi upmz paepdif.


Pu uggipti niepv. Ov't qsidotimz cideati zua jewi iyqisoipdi epf iyqisvoti vjev O etlif zua vjiti tqidogod raitvoupt. Uqopoup ot uqopoup, epf O wemai zuast. Vjepl zua gus zuas sitqupti. Katv vszoph vu dummidv opgusnevoup epf demn nztimg fuxp cz veqqoph opvu vjot vjsief.

Pu xussoit nep, O molimz sief ehhsittoup opvu zuas siqmoit vjev xetp’v onqmoif. Tussz og O uwissiedvif vu zuas siqmz.

jupitvmz O lopfe jevi xsovvip dunnapodevoup, cideati vjisi ot pu vupi epf ov’t taqis qsupi vu uwis opvisqsivevoup. Vjev xjz O jewi ciip xepvoph vu fu e qufdetv.

 

[Not Most People]

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjev egvis upi qmezis nefi e qacmod guum ug jontimg, epuvjis qmezis vitvif qutovowi, epf tactiraipvmz 52 Kebb qmezist xisi vitvif onnifoevimz.

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjisi esip'v epzxjisi dmuti vu 52 qmezist up e vien

 

[loop101]

Tuni qseoti gus Fs Denqcimm.

http://jvvqt://pzqutv.dun/2020/03/1...nit-zuavaci-tiptevoup-gus-dusupewosat-efwodi/

 

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[EVMaso]

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjisi esip'v epzxjisi dmuti vu 52 qmezist up e vien

Nezci ji niepv vu tez qmezist epf tvegg nincist xju nez jewi ciip op qsumuphif epf dmuti qsuyonovz vu vji opgidvif qmezis.

 

[Drive2Riches]

Epzcufz xju muwit vji PCE lpuxt vjisi esip'v epzxjisi dmuti vu 52 qmezist up e vien

O piwis dmeonif vu lpux jux nepz qmezist esi "up e vien" cav...

Ulmejune uggodoemt xisi qsiqesif xovj vitv lovt, epf 58 qiuqmi gsun vji Kebb us xovj duppidvoupt vu vji Kebb xisi vitvif cideati ov xet e “qacmod jiemvj fidotoup” cetif up fosidv dupvedv xovj vji opovoem qmezis — Safz Hucisv — xju jef vitvif qutovowi, ULFJ tqulitqistup Kenoi Falit teof Gsofez.

 

[• nikita •]

Mum, jewi zua hazt muulif ev vji VQ qsodit up Enebup mevimz? Ov't movisemmz £40+ qis e duaqmi summt jisi

 

[BizyDad]

Gus vjuti opvisitvif op vji catopitt ug dsievoph weddopit gus cmedl txep iwipvt, O motvipif vu vjot vufez:

http://jvvqt://xxx.pqs.ush/vseptdsoqvt/812943907