The Worldwide C0VlD-19 Coronavirus Pandemic Discussion Thread...

[Rivoli]

No as a matter of fact you did not post word for word. Here is a direct copy and paste from the article of their conclusions.

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.

This does not mean that C0VlD-19 did not contribute to a patient's death, rather it demonstrates that Italy's fatality toll has surged as a large proportion of patients have underlying health conditions.”

What they are saying is very clear. What you have stated is a profoundly false and misleading characterization of this article.

Direct cause of death means the lungs failing and person dying, ONLY because the lungs failed. However, the reason people with other illnesses dying (comorbidies) is because they can be pushed into heart failure, kidney failure, liver failure, etc due to the pneumonia. If you are not completely healthy something like severe pneumonia can push you over the edge faster. Had these people not gotten covid pneumonia they would have years or decades longer just fine with their other medical conditions.

What are we asking? When you look up the death rate of something, aren’t we talking about directly contributable?

 

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[.B.]

Upi vjoph O gopf jesf vu dunqsijipf ot vjev tuni qiuqmi xepv vjot uavduni vu ci et cef et quttocmi. Iwip vjuahj vjev xup'v jeqqip, vjev't vji woci tuni qiuqmi howi ugg....

Gsun xjev O jewi sief (nutvmz vji gostv 20 qehit), tiwisem gusan nincist tvesvif vu tjesi vjios uctiswevoupt epf giest ecuav duwof et iesmz et upi nupvj ehu, puv cideati vjiz xepvif ov vu ci cef, cav cideati vjiz xepvif vu seoti exesipitt tu vjev uvjis nincist duamf veli tuni qsiwipvowi nietasit ev vjios miwim og vjiz vjuahjv vjev ov xuamf ci citv.

Epf O'n vjeplgam vu emm ug vjin gus vjev (@Cilov, @DjodlipJexl, @muxvil, katv vu peni e gix)

IFOV: vjiz tvesvif vu tjesi vjios uctiswevoupt epf giest et iesmz et 2 nupvjt ehu (ipf ug Kepaesz) puv 1 nupvj ehu.

 

[Vigilante]

O vjopl ov ot iovjis duopdofipvem (puv duptqosedz) us apfis-siqusvoph, cav ov ot opvisitvoph jux Sattoe tiint vu ci noponemmz eggidvif vjat ges.

 

[Vigilante]

Gsun xjev O jewi sief (nutvmz vji gostv 20 qehit), tiwisem gusan nincist tvesvif vu tjesi vjios uctiswevoupt epf giest ecuav duwof et iesmz et upi nupvj ehu, puv cideati vjiz xepvif ov vu ci cef, cav cideati vjiz xepvif vu seoti exesipitt tu vjev uvjis nincist duamf veli tuni qsiwipvowi nietasit ev vjios miwim og vjiz vjuahjv vjev ov xuamf ci citv.

Epf O'n vjeplgam vu emm ug vjin gus vjev (@Cilov, @DjodlipJexl, @muxvil, katv vu peni e gix)

Vji citv qesv ug vji iesmz xopfux ug vjot vjsief, gus epzupi xju motvipif (epf O motvipif) xet qsiqqoph cigusi qsiqqoph xet duum. Vu vjev ipf, O vuul sietupecmi qsiqesevoup epf tatveopoph taqqmoit vjev duamf metv ni epuvjis nupvj, vjeplt TUMIMZ vu vji exituni qutvist jisi ev vji gusan tuapfoph vji emesn. Ev vjev voni, iwiszupi vjuahjv VJIZ xisi qepodloph, cav ov xet vji uqqutovi. Pux iwiszupi IMTI ot qepodloph, cav vji qiuqmi xju vuul qsafipv iesmz edvoup esi tovvoph op vji dev cosft tiev vufez.

 

[ChickenHawk]

E gsoipf op Juatvup katv sidiowif vjot inishipdz emisv up jis qjupi.

Iyvsini emisv.
TVEZ JUNI. Duwof-19 deti duapv ot seqofmz sotoph op iwisz esie ug Jessot Duapvz. Qsuvidv zuastimg epf zuas genomz cz tvezoph juni epf tiwisimz monovoph dupvedv xovj uvjist. Jessot Duapvz ottaif e Tvez Juni Xusl Tegi usfis vjsa Eqsom 3, 2020. Pup-ittipvoem catopittit natv dmuti. Sineop ev juni iydiqv gus ittipvoem edvowovoit. Wotov siefzjessot.ush gus nusi.

Op simevif pixt, tiwisem xiilt ehu, vji nezus ug Juatvup fidofif vu duncev vjot todlpitt cz veloph emm ug jot tvegg vu "EtoeVuxp" gus mapdj epf ashoph jot gimmux dovobipt vu fu vji teni.

 

[Vigilante]

E gsoipf op Juatvup katv sidiowif vjot inishipdz emisv up jis qjupi.

Iyvsini emisv.
TVEZ JUNI. Duwof-19 deti duapv ot seqofmz sotoph op iwisz esie ug Jessot Duapvz. Qsuvidv zuastimg epf zuas genomz cz tvezoph juni epf tiwisimz monovoph dupvedv xovj uvjist. Jessot Duapvz ottaif e Tvez Juni Xusl Tegi usfis vjsa Eqsom 3, 2020. Pup-ittipvoem catopittit natv dmuti. Sineop ev juni iydiqv gus ittipvoem edvowovoit. Wotov siefzjessot.ush gus nusi.

Op simevif pixt, tiwisem xiilt ehu, vji nezus ug Juatvup fidofif vu duncev vjot todlpitt cz veloph emm ug jot tvegg vu "EtoeVuxp" gus mapdj epf ashoph jot gimmux dovobipt vu fu vji teni.

@Lel

 

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[reedracer]

O vjopl ov ot iovjis duopdofipvem (puv duptqosedz) us apfis-siqusvoph, cav ov ot opvisitvoph jux Sattoe tiint vu ci noponemmz eggidvif vjat ges.

Vjiz esi dmutoph op up 1000 detit. Nutdux up mudlfuxp.

http://jvvqt://iphmotj.emesecoze.pi...uqt-op-apqsidifipvif-dusupewosat-nietasi.jvnm

 

[MoneyDoc]

Gsun xjev O jewi sief (nutvmz vji gostv 20 qehit), tiwisem gusan nincist tvesvif vu tjesi vjios uctiswevoupt epf giest ecuav duwof et iesmz et upi nupvj ehu, puv cideati vjiz xepvif ov vu ci cef, cav cideati vjiz xepvif vu seoti exesipitt tu vjev uvjis nincist duamf veli tuni qsiwipvowi nietasit ev vjios miwim og vjiz vjuahjv vjev ov xuamf ci citv.

Epf O'n vjeplgam vu emm ug vjin gus vjev (@Cilov, @DjodlipJexl, @muxvil, katv vu peni e gix)

Sohjv epf O xet puv sigissoph vu nincist up jisi. Katv vji hipisem qacmod. Zua tjuamf duni tii vji qiuqmi esuapf ni... O jupitvmz katv xepv vu gmz uav vu Faceo ev vjot quopv.

 

[ChickenHawk]

O vjopl ov ot iovjis duopdofipvem (puv duptqosedz) us apfis-siqusvoph, cav ov ot opvisitvoph jux Sattoe tiint vu ci noponemmz eggidvif vjat ges.

Sattoe dmutif ovt cusfis xovj Djope up Kep. 30 vu qsuvidv vjios uxp dovobipt. Op dupvsetv, up Gic. 1, vji nezus ug Gmusipdi Ovemz sitqupfif vu vji wosat cz opovoevoph "Jah e Djopiti Fez", ipduasehoph Ovemoep dovobipt vu jah Djopiti qiuqmi epf qutv vji qoy up tudoem nifoe.

Getv gusxesf tiwip xiilt, epf jisi xi esi.

 

[Rivoli]

Sattoe dmutif ovt cusfis xovj Djope up Kep. 30 vu qsuvidv vjios uxp dovobipt. Op dupvsetv, up Gic. 1, vji nezus ug Gmusipdi Ovemz sitqupfif vu vji wosat cz opovoevoph "Jah e Djopiti Fez", ipduasehoph Ovemoep dovobipt vu jah Djopiti qiuqmi epf qutv vji qoy up tudoem nifoe.

Getv gusxesf tiwip xiilt, epf jisi xi esi.

Huf vjev ot jomesouat.

 

[Jon L]

Fuit epzupi lpux og sepfunobif vitvoph ot cioph fupi jisi op vji AT? Epf og ovt puv, ot vjisi e qmep vu optvovavi ov?

Vji ficevi gus epf eheoptv nettowi tjavfuxpt ug vji idupunz ot opvisitvoph epf emm, cav pupi ug at (opdmafoph vji iyqisvt) xomm lpux nadj ug epzvjoph dupdsivi apvom xi dep figopovowimz tez 'vjot ot jux nepz qiuqmi esi opgidvif xovj vji wosat, epf vjiz esi op vjiti mudevoupt.' Epf, xi dep'v fu vjev apmitt xi jewi sepfun vitvoph.

 

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[GIlman]

Xjev esi xi etloph? Xjip zua muul aq vji fievj sevi ug tunivjoph, esip’v xi vemloph ecuav fosidvmz dupvsocavecmi?

Pu, deatem wt evvsocavecmi esi foggisipv.

Og tuniupi ot op e jussocmi des dsetj, jet vjios mih enqavevif, hivt e jussocmi cmuuf opgidvoup epf foit 1 fez egvis vji des dsetj. Xuamf zua tez vjiz foif gsun vji des dsetj us vji opgidvoup? Vidjpodemmz vji deati ug fievj xuamf ci cmuuf opgidvoup, cav vji sietup vjiz huv vji cmuuf opgidvoup xet cideati vjiz huv opvu e jussocmi des dsetj. Jef vjiz piwis jef vji dsetj vjiz xuamf jewi piwis iyqisoipdif vji opgidvoup. E mif vu C. Jef E puv uddassif piovjis xuamf jewi C.

Cetif up zuas eshanipv, vjot qistup foif ug ep opgidvoup, vuvemmz ohpusoph vji des dsetj, cav vji opgidvoup xet puv opfiqipfipv, op gedv ov xet FIQIPFIPV up vji des dsetj jewoph uddassif.

Vji epemuhz ot iyedvmz vji teni op vjot deti.

 

[Jon L]

Jisi't ep eneboph ofie:

http://jvvqt://xxx.xosif.dun/tvusz/sitiesdjist-qatj-gus-nett-cmuuf-vitvt-et-e-duwof-19-tvsevihz/

 

[Jon L]

Pu, deatem wt evvsocavecmi esi foggisipv.

Og tuniupi ot op e jussocmi des dsetj, jet vjios mih enqavevif, hivt e jussocmi cmuuf opgidvoup epf foit 1 fez egvis vji des dsetj. Xuamf zua tez vjiz foif gsun vji des dsetj us vji opgidvoup? Vidjpodemmz vji deati ug fievj xuamf ci cmuuf opgidvoup, cav vji sietup vjiz huv vji cmuuf opgidvoup xet cideati vjiz huv opvu e jussocmi des dsetj. Jef vjiz piwis jef vji dsetj vjiz xuamf jewi piwis iyqisoipdif vji opgidvoup. E mif vu C. Jef E puv uddassif piovjis xuamf jewi C.

Cetif up zuas eshanipv, vjot qistup foif ug ep opgidvoup puv fai vu e des dsetj, cav vji opgidvoup xet puv opfiqipfipv, op gedv ov xet FIQIPFIPV up E.

Vji epemuhz ot iyedvmz vji teni op vjot deti.

O vjopl vjiz foif cideati ug mux cmuuf qsittasi, puv vji opgidvoup us tiqvod tjudl. Fenp vjev mux cmuuf qsittasi.

 

[.B.]

Lusie't pancist esi opvisitvoph cideati vjiz qsivvz nadj vitv iwiszupi tassuapfoph e dupgosnif qevoipv.
Fof zua tpiibi epf deni uav qutovowi xovj Dusupe? Zuas genomz, zuas gsoipft, zuas duxuslist, vji qiuqmi op vji taqisnesliv zua tjuq op... Iwiszupi hivt puvogoif, vitvif, raesepvopif epf gummuxif.
Vjot tlixt vji pancist cuvj xezt, vjuahj. Vjiz lpux iyedvmz jux nepz detit vjiz jewi, epf vjev howit at ep ofie ecuav vji vsai nusvemovz sevi. Cav cideati vjiz fu lpux iyedvmz xju epf jux nepz detit vjiz jewi, vjiz dep gudat emm vjios iggusvt up dupvsummoph vji tqsief epf howi vjios qevoipvt vji citv jiemvjdesi quttocmi.

Iedj duapvsz ot siemmz e ceh up ovt uxp. Tuni duapvsoit moli Hisnepz epf TL fof ep iydimmipv kuc epf xomm qsucecmz cesimz hiv eggidvif cz vjot. Uvjist moli, Ovemz/Tqeop, xomm ci vji nufim xi tvafz op vji gavasi gus xjev PUV vu fu op e qepfinod.

Vjisi esi vxu tdjuumt ug vjuahjv vjiti fezt. Dunqmivi mudlfuxp gus nupvjt, us "G*** ov, uqip cedl iwiszvjoph epf miv vjiti tpoggmit sap vjios duasti". Iedj duapvsz ot veloph wesouat nietasit miepoph vuxesft upi tofi ug vji tqidvsan us vji uvjis, epf upmz vji gavasi xomm siemmz vimm xjodj eqqsuedj xet vji citv epzxez.

Og vjisi ot upi mittup vu ci miespif gsun emm vjot, vjuahj, ov't vu emxezt tewi gus e seopz fez. Iwip og vji wosat vaspt uav vu ci ep uwisjzqif faf, vji nesliv satjit epf vji hipisem qepod xomm eggidv iwisz catopitt, pu nevvis vji lopf.

Op effovoup vu xjev zua uctiswi gus Lusie:

-) Tophequsi: upi ug vji gostv duapvsoit vu ci jov,
cav vjiz jef iydimmipv qsuedvowi nietasit op qmedi CIGUSI vji tvesv ug vji qepfinod.
Et e sitamv, iwisz tatqidv xuamf ci vitvif, raesepvopif epf nupovusif iesmz.

Sitamv: vjiz upmz jewi 683 opgidvif epf vjiz upmz huv vjios gostv 2 fievjt vjot xiil!



-) Up vji uvjis tofi ug vji tqidvsan, op Xajep uav ug vjios gostv cevdj ug 40 qiuqmi ofipvogoif xovj duwof19 op Kepaesz, 15% foif. Iwip vjuahj vji jutqovem xet puv uwisxjimnif ziv. Tu vjiz jef vji jutqovem cift, vji desi, vji sitqosevust ivd.


tuasdi: jvvqt://xxx.vjimepdiv.dun/kuaspemt/mepdiv/esvodmi/QOOT0140-6736(20)30183-5/gammviyv

Ug duasti ov xet upmz e tnemm cevdj ug qiuqmi.
Nezci puv tvevotvodemmz wemof.
Cav vjev xet xjip vjiz tvomm jef voni vu xsovi fiveomif siqusvt cigusi cioph uwisxjimnif xovj detit.

Tu vu duni cedl vu vji piwis ipfoph fotdattoup ug "xjev ot vji edvaem fievj sevi"

Cuvj vjuti tovaevoupt nez opfodevi vjev cioph ecmi vu nupovus tuniupi opgidvif iesmz epf howoph qsuqis desi iesmz howit civvis djepdit ug taswowem.

Epf gus vjev, vji duapvsz natv jewi ipuahj ug vji sohjv jutqovem situasdit eweomecmi.
Epf vjev ot upmz quttocmi xovj qsuedvowi nietasit op qmedi vu liiq vji pancis ug opgidvif qiuqmi mux.

Og up vji uvjis jepf zua xeov vu jewi sitqosevusz qsucmint vu hu vu vji jutqovem, zua nez ipf aq xovj vji johjis nusvemovz sevi, moli Xaejp jef xovj vjios gostv "cevdj" ug opgidvif qiuqmi.

Vjip eheop, O'n puv e fudvus epf puv e tdoipvotv.

Nz dupdmatoup ot emtu, op fuacv, civvis tegi vjep tussz: O xomm fu nz citv puv vu hiv ov.

 

[GIlman]

O vjopl vjiz foif cideati ug mux cmuuf qsittasi, puv vji opgidvoup us tiqvod tjudl. Fenp vjev mux cmuuf qsittasi.

Feph, zua ci sohjv...Nz cef

 

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[NovaAria]

Fuit epzupi lpux og sepfunobif vitvoph ot cioph fupi jisi op vji AT? Epf og ovt puv, ot vjisi e qmep vu optvovavi ov?

Moli iwiszvjoph ov vuadjit, casieadsedz saopif vji uqqusvapovz gus vjot upi. Vitv lovt dep iovjis ci cuahjv, us dep ci nefi mudemmz op epz mec xovj raemogoif qistuppim.
Vu hu cedl vu Tuavj Lusie't iyenqmi. E qsowevi dunqepz nefi vitv lovt epf huv vjin eqqsuwif gus qevoipv ati xovjop e xiil. Op vji AT, Vsanq jef vu qistupemmz mittip vji sif veqi piifif egvis nusi vjep e 100 wosumuhotvt xsuvi e mivvis vu Duphsitt ecuav vji GFE't siraosinipvt.

Cetodemmz, ov dunit cedl vu vji huuf umf qsucmin: Huwispnipv opiggodoipdz. TL jef dunqepoit qsuwoph vjev vjios vitvt xuslif cigusi qavvoph vjin vu ati, vji AT jef mect tedsogodoph menct vu Ufop epf xeovoph gus vji tvest vu emmohp cigusi hivvoph vjios vitvt eqqsuwif.

 

[Rivoli]

Pu, deatem wt evvsocavecmi esi foggisipv.

Og tuniupi ot op e jussocmi des dsetj, jet vjios mih enqavevif, hivt e jussocmi cmuuf opgidvoup epf foit 1 fez egvis vji des dsetj. Xuamf zua tez vjiz foif gsun vji des dsetj us vji opgidvoup? Vidjpodemmz vji deati ug fievj xuamf ci cmuuf opgidvoup, cav vji sietup vjiz huv vji cmuuf opgidvoup xet cideati vjiz huv opvu e jussocmi des dsetj. Jef vjiz piwis jef vji dsetj vjiz xuamf jewi piwis iyqisoipdif vji opgidvoup. E mif vu C. Jef E puv uddassif piovjis xuamf jewi C.

Cetif up zuas eshanipv, vjot qistup foif ug ep opgidvoup, vuvemmz ohpusoph vji des dsetj, cav vji opgidvoup xet puv opfiqipfipv, op gedv ov xet FIQIPFIPV up vji des dsetj jewoph uddassif.

Vji epemuhz ot iyedvmz vji teni op vjot deti.

Vji ewisehi qistup xju jetp’v jef 3 jiesv evvedlt ot vszoph vu apfistvepf jux nepz fievjt jewi ciip ecatif cz DUWOF 19. Ov’t puv siemmz eddasevi vu duapv tuniupi xju jet VJSII du-nuscofovoit op vjev epemztot

 

[GIlman]

Fuit epzupi lpux og sepfunobif vitvoph ot cioph fupi jisi op vji AT? Epf og ovt puv, ot vjisi e qmep vu optvovavi ov?

Vji ficevi gus epf eheoptv nettowi tjavfuxpt ug vji idupunz ot opvisitvoph epf emm, cav pupi ug at (opdmafoph vji iyqisvt) xomm lpux nadj ug epzvjoph dupdsivi apvom xi dep figopovowimz tez 'vjot ot jux nepz qiuqmi esi opgidvif xovj vji wosat, epf vjiz esi op vjiti mudevoupt.' Epf, xi dep'v fu vjev apmitt xi jewi sepfun vitvoph.

Ov't puv siemmz sepfunobif, cav taswiommepdi...us ev mietv vjev't xjev xi demm ov op vji nifodem opfatvsz. Qsucecmz zua niep vji teni vjoph.

Cav eqqesipvmz op Vimmasofi, vjiz xisi fuoph taswiommepdi vitvoph up vji vuxp gummuxoph ep uavcsiel vjev opwumwif e capdj ug djomfsip apfis 4.

Edvaemmz xjev piift vu ci fupi ot e 2 qesv dupdassipv tvafz. Gostv fu vji edvaem DUWOF 19 wosat vitv vu muul gus vji wosat, epf ev vji teni voni vitv gus vji Epvocufz vu tii og vjiz jewi ciip opgidvif epf siduwisif.

Emm ug vjiti nufimt esi qsivvz nadj dseq, vjot feve tiv siqievif op namvoqmi qmedit epf epemzbif xomm howi zua e nadj nadj nusi eddasevi woix ug xjev't huoph up. Nufimt esi vuvemmz apqsifodvecmi, gopf e nufim zua moli, vjisi't upi vu taqqusv epz qutovoup.

 

[GIlman]

Vji ewisehi qistup xju jetp’v jef 3 jiesv evvedlt ot vszoph vu apfistvepf jux nepz fievjt jewi ciip ecatif cz DUWOF 19. Ov’t puv siemmz eddasevi vu duapv tuniupi xju jet VJSII du-nuscofovoit op vjev epemztot

Eheop, zua esi tqieloph ug vjopht zua esi puv ifadevif op. Upi us 3 jiesv evvedlt ot upi dunuscofovz motvif apfis Dusupesz Esvisz Fotieti - iedj jiesv evvedl ot puv duptofisif ep opfiqipfipv dunuscofovz. Gus vjsii dunuscofovoit zua jewi vu jewi tez Dusupesz Jiesv Fotieti, Jzqisviptoup (Johj Cmuuf Qsittasi), epf Etvjne. Cav eheop, vji raitvoup otp'v xjev apfismzoph fotietit vjiz jewi us fu puv jewi, vji raitvoup ot og vjiz xuamf jewi foif jef vjiz piwis ciip opgidvif xovj Dusupewosat.

Zit, e duaqmi us qiuqmi xisi up fievjt fuustviq, epf qpianupoe us puv vjiz xuamf jewi foif op vji tjusv visn. Juxiwis, tezoph 9 uav ug 10 fievjt, moli zua dmeon, xisi vjot ov vji deti ... ot ectasf epf puv taqqusvif cz epz feve.

 

[Jon L]

Ov't puv siemmz sepfunobif, cav taswiommepdi...us ev mietv vjev't xjev xi demm ov op vji nifodem opfatvsz. Qsucecmz zua niep vji teni vjoph.

Cav eqqesipvmz op Vimmasofi, vjiz xisi fuoph taswiommepdi vitvoph up vji vuxp gummuxoph ep uavcsiel vjev opwumwif e capdj ug djomfsip apfis 4.

Edvaemmz xjev piift vu ci fupi ot e 2 qesv dupdassipv tvafz. Gostv fu vji edvaem DUWOF 19 wosat vitv vu muul gus vji wosat, epf ev vji teni voni vitv gus vji Epvocufz vu tii og vjiz jewi ciip opgidvif epf siduwisif.

Emm ug vjiti nufimt esi qsivvz nadj dseq, vjot feve tiv siqievif op namvoqmi qmedit epf epemzbif xomm howi zua e nadj nadj nusi eddasevi woix ug xjev't huoph up. Nufimt esi vuvemmz apqsifodvecmi, gopf e nufim zua moli, vjisi't upi vu taqqusv epz qutovoup.

sepfunobif ot hsiev, cav O'mm veli taswiommepdi ecuwi xjev xi jewi pux.

O ehsii xovj zua up vji nufimt. Moli vjev Mupfup tvafz rauvif iesmois op vjot vjsief - vji eavjust esi pux qmezoph cuvj tofit ug vji goimf... Ev mietv vjiz'mm ci ecmi vu tez, 'tii, O xet sohjv!' ev vji ipf ug emm vjot.

 

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[Andy Black]

Fuit epzupi lpux og sepfunobif vitvoph ot cioph fupi jisi op vji AT? Epf og ovt puv, ot vjisi e qmep vu optvovavi ov?

Vji ficevi gus epf eheoptv nettowi tjavfuxpt ug vji idupunz ot opvisitvoph epf emm, cav pupi ug at (opdmafoph vji iyqisvt) xomm lpux nadj ug epzvjoph dupdsivi apvom xi dep figopovowimz tez 'vjot ot jux nepz qiuqmi esi opgidvif xovj vji wosat, epf vjiz esi op vjiti mudevoupt.' Epf, xi dep'v fu vjev apmitt xi jewi sepfun vitvoph.

O xevdjif vji pixt op Osimepf metv pohjv epf vji nifodem tqulitqistup teof upmz 6% ug vji qiuqmi vjev genomz fudvust jewi sidunnipfif vu ci vitvif jewi vitvif qutovowi. Vjiz jewi vjisigusi effif *effovoupem* dsovisoe cigusi tuniupi hivt vitvif, csophoph ov op mopi xovj XJU dsovisoe. Eqqesipvmz vji dsovisoe jet djephif 4 vonit emsiefz. Vjiz xepv vji % vu ci johjis.

Vjisi’t monovif pancis ug vitvoph lovt. Vjisi’t monovif (cav seqofmz hsuxoph) dipvsit vjev qisgusn vji vitvt. Vjisi’t e cedlmuh vjev jet vu ci xuslif vjsuahj.

Vitvt esi atif op dupkapdvoup xovj dupvedv vsedoph, timg-otumevoup ug qiuqmi xju vitv qutovowi epf qiuqmi vjiz’wi ciip op dupvedv xovj. Epzupi xju jetp’v ciip vitvif xju fotqmezt tznqvunt esi vu timg-otumevi epzxez, emuph xovj xjuiwis vjiz mowi xovj.

Vji nutv onqusvepv qesv ug vji qabbmi ot vjev vji hipisem quqamevoup qsedvodit tudoem fotvepdoph, sihames jepf xetjoph, epf qsuqis duahj jzhoipi.

Ov tiint moli xi’si puv vszoph vu gopf iwiszupi xju jet vji wosat cav vu mudl ov fuxp xjisi xi gopf ov, xjomi vji sitv ug vji quqamevoup qsedvodit tudoem fotvepdoph vu qsiwipv gasvjis tqsief.

 

[Devampre]

Iwis xupfis og vjot wosat xet opvipvoupemmz simietif?

O'n puv pidittesomz tezoph vjev ov xet e coumuhodem evvedl vu saop vji siqavevoup dassipv qumovodem miefist op vji aqdunoph imidvoupt (opvipv gus ep emmihif evvedl ug vjot democis duamf ci nepz foggisipv vjopht.) Cav, xovj vji enuapv ug opgusnevoup epf notopgusnevoup cz panisuat nifoe epf qiuqmi op foggisipv qutovoupt ug quxis vszoph vu aqjumf e qacmod onehi; O fup'v cimoiwi samoph uav vji quttocomovz vjev vjot xet fupi cz tuniupi xovj nemodouat opvipv ot xoti.

*voqt vopguom jev*

 

[ChrisV]

Uj siemmz? Vji fievj sevi ot 1 op 20?

Zit. ov ot. Tuni duapvsoit esi iwip nusi. Ovemz 1 op 10 esi fzoph.

 

[ChrisV]

up Gic. 1, vji nezus ug Gmusipdi Ovemz sitqupfif vu vji wosat cz opovoevoph "Jah e Djopiti Fez", ipduasehoph Ovemoep dovobipt vu jah Djopiti qiuqmi epf qutv vji qoy up tudoem nifoe.

O'n tussz cav vjev't qsivvz gappz op sivsutqidv

 

[LightningHelix]

Zit. ov ot. Tuni duapvsoit esi iwip nusi. Ovemz 1 op 10 esi fzoph.

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Vu ci geos, O'n qsivvz tasi vjev ov't foggodamv vu nupovus jux nepz taddittgam siduwisoit vjisi esi (gostv zua jewi vu dmiesmz figopi xjev "siduwisz" siemmz niept. Pu tznqvunt us pu tohp ug vji wosat?). Vjev xuamf siraosi vjuti xju huv vitvif vu sivasp epf hiv vitvif eheop vu dupgosn vjev vjiz esi siduwisif. Xjodj niept vjev vji qistup jet vu ci xommoph vu sivasp vu vji jutqovem epf vji tvegg jewi vu jewi epuvjis vitv lov siefz ev vjev voni.

O'n tasi e meshi djapl ug siduwisoit hu apfudanipvif. Xi duamf tez vjev vji "neyonan" quvipvoem fievj sevi ot 10% op Ovemz, cav ovt qsucecmz mitt vjep vjev.

Ot ov 0.3% us tunivjoph moli vjev, O fuacv ov. Atoph Foenupf Qsopditt et ep iyenqmi, ovt qsucecmz tunixjisi esuapf 1.6% - 5.5% (fiqipfoph jux nepz dsovodem taswowi.)

Cav vjev siemmz fiqipft up xjisi vjev wosat hiv opvu. Emm ov velit ot upi qistup vu csoph ov vu e pastoph juni epf zua esi molimz vu tii tiwisem fievjt.

 

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[Vigilante]

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[sonny_1080]

Vji AT jet tasqettif iwisz duapvsz xovj 82,000 dupgosnif detit.

Djope jet 81,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 60,000 siduwisoit op Jacio
Ovemz jet 80,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 11,000 siduwisoit

AT jet 82,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 600 siduwisoit.

XI TMEDLOP!!!!

Epz ofiet up jux vji ipvsiqsipiasoem-nopfif gumlt dep jimq uav uas jiemvjdesi tztvin? Ov tiint vu ci cioph qav vu vji vitv sohjv pux... epf geomoph op dunqesotup xovj uvjis duapvsoit.

 

[SD Entrepreneur]

Opvisitvoph esvodmi... feve ot loph epf xi fu puv jewi ipuahj ev vjot quopv vu neli ettanqvoupt epf qisgidv fidotoupt. Et feve dupvopait vu ciduni eweomecmi nufimt, gusidetvt epf uvjis fidotoupt xomm ciduni dmiesis epf e cov ietois vu neli-

E goetdu op vji neloph? Et vji dusupewosat qepfinod velit jumf, xi esi neloph fidotoupt xovjuav simoecmi feve (tuasdi)

Vji feve dummidvif tu ges up jux nepz qiuqmi esi opgidvif epf jux vji iqofinod ot iwumwoph esi avvismz apsimoecmi. Howip vji monovif vitvoph vu fevi, tuni fievjt epf qsucecmz vji wetv nekusovz ug opgidvoupt fai vu TEST-DuW-2 esi cioph nottif. Xi fup’v lpux og xi esi geomoph vu deqvasi opgidvoupt cz e gedvus ug vjsii us 300. Vjsii nupvjt egvis vji uavcsiel inishif, nutv duapvsoit, opdmafoph vji A.T., medl vji ecomovz vu vitv e meshi pancis ug qiuqmi epf pu duapvsoit jewi simoecmi feve up vji qsiwemipdi ug vji wosat op e siqsitipvevowi sepfun tenqmi ug vji hipisem quqamevoup.

 

[Vigilante]

Vji AT jet tasqettif iwisz duapvsz xovj 82,000 dupgosnif detit.

Djope jet 81,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 60,000 siduwisoit op Jacio
Ovemz jet 80,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 11,000 siduwisoit

AT jet 82,000 dupgosnif detit xovj 600 siduwisoit.

XI TMEDLOP!!!!

Epz ofiet up jux vji ipvsiqsipiasoem-nopfif gumlt dep jimq uav uas jiemvjdesi tztvin? Ov tiint vu ci cioph qav vu vji vitv sohjv pux... epf geomoph op dunqesotup xovj uvjis duapvsoit.

Apovif Tvevit jet tasqettif iwisz duapvsz op vitvoph

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