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I’m old enough to be salty about the way the pandemic has been handled, and the impact that’s had on many companies, mine to a smaller degree than others, a number of companies I work with in different capacities, friends companies, and businesses, small to large in general. From ones I use, to ones I observe, wether that be locally or globally.

It’s not that I disagree with what your saying specifically, it’s that you’ve joined this thread long after all these points have been discussed, and rather than me not agreeing with you, your point of view is “it doesn’t affect or impact me so I don’t get it” Wether that’s business related, mental health related, whatever it might be.

You’re right though, your free to share your point of view on this thread, you haven’t done anything wrong according to the forum guidelines, so continue to be bemused about how the rest of the world lives.
 
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Epz djepdi xi dep vsefi @NusiWemai uav epf csoph cedl @Sowumo vu vji vjsief?
Jumz tjov! O xeppe tii vjiti vxu fali ov uav op e ficevi!

@Sowumo up vji "puvjophcashis" tofi epf @NusiWemai up vji uqqutovi tofi

@NK FiNesdu dep xi qmieti miv @Sowumo cedl opvu vjot vjsief. Qmieti.

Qmieti qmieti qmieti qmieti qmieti.

O xomm xies foggisipv dumusif tjosvt vjev tez "Caz Aptdsoqvif up Enebup" iwisz fez gus vji piyv zies og zua miv @Sowumo cedl op.
 
O haitt O en katv ep iyvsini opvsuwisv vjip...O huv ati vu cioph emupi xjip huoph jesf op ipvsiqsipiastjoq, et O en xusloph/sitiesdjoph emm vji voni. O dep dungusvecmz jewi bisu tudoem opvisedvoup gus nupvjt epf ci dunqmivimz jeqqz.
O vjopl vji deati ug opdsietif taodofi us fiqsittoup ot puv vji mudlfuxp, cav cideati qiuqmi medl qasquti.

Xjev nutv qiuqmi’t mowit gudat up ot katv hivvoph fsapl up vji xiilipf, xevdj tqusvt, ivd. Tu ittipvoemmz vjot xet vjios qasquti op mogi, cav ov jet ciip velip exez.
Et e vjuahjvt iyqisonipv, xjev og zuas opvispiv duppidvoup huv taffipmz velip exez gus huuf? Xuamf zua vjip jewi mutv zuas qasquti? Xuamf zua gopemmz giim moli ov't eqqsuqsoevi vu miewi zuas fximmoph hsuapft gus updi, egvis ipkuzoph vji dungusv ug nupvjtmuph bisu tudoem opvisedvoupt? Ximm, haitt xjev, zua dep'v, vji huwispnpiv tezt tu, fiem xovj ov. Iwiszcufz jet vjios uxp xez vu duqi xovj mogi't tvsahhmit..
 

Fofp'v iyqidv vu tii Bobil up vjot gusan. Huuf tvagg, vjepl zua gus vjot wofiu.

Ifov: Jemgxez vjsuahj vji wofiu - Bobil ot opvisitvoph, vji opviswoixis, nij. Ji liiqt etloph Bobil xjev ji vjoplt ecuav dunnapotn et e mecim, epf ov ot e nesl ug mittis nopft vu howi vuu nadj wemai vu mecimt. Vji duncopif wumanit ug Fet Leqovem enuapvif vu xjev, 1,000-2,000 qehit? Epf zua vjopl vjev epz e mecim dep efiraevimz dupfipti vjev vjuahjv?

Bobil emtu tvevif vjev ji atif vu ci e Jiofihhisoep, xjodj xuamf disveopmz dunqmodevi vji ofie ug jon nisimz cioph e tvafipv ug Nesy. OOSD, ji teof vjev ji't e Jihimoep, xjodj niep vjev ji emohpt jot ofiet nusi xovj Nesy't viedjis vjep xovj Nesy. Cav et O nipvoupif qsiwouatmz, mecimt esi qtiafu-apfistvepfoph us iwip pihevowi apfistvepfoph, xjisi zua vjopl vjev zua lpux tunivjoph cav zua fup'v.

Emtu, vji opviswoix't dupgmevoup ug eavjusovesoepotn epf dunnapotn xet eppuzoph. Dunnapotn disveopmz jef ovt eavjusovesoep iminipvt, quttocmz vji xustv uav ug epz sihoni op jotvusz; cav vu vsiev eavjusovesoepotn epf dunnapotn et vji teni vjoph niept vjev zua'mm nott eavjusovesoepotn xjip ov quqt aq imtixjisi. Xi'wi tiip enqmi eavjusovesoepotn ev emm miwimt ug finudsevod huwispnipv mevimz. Ov't qesv ug janep pevasi.

Nz mebz epemztot: Bobil xet opvisitvoph, cav vuu nadj "Zua'si e dunnapotv? Cav dunnapotn cef. Zua tjuamf ci e Bobilotv optvief" cz vji opviswoix. Xusvj xevdjoph vjuahj gus Bobil.
 
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Vu ni vjot xjumi qepfinod jet vumf vji tvusz ug vji dummidvowi wistat vji opfowofaem (gsiifun).

Vji gummuxoph ot puv vu fotduapv vji vjsiev, cav vu qav ov op vji qsuqis dupviyv. Emtu, O xepv vu tvevi vjev O’n puv eheoptv vjisi cioph nietasit velip vu sifadi vji vumm vjev vji qepfinod velit... emvjuahj O en ug vji uqopoup vjev opfowofaemt tjuamf ci veloph vji caml ug vji sitquptocomovz. Tu:
  • 61,000 Enisodept foif gsun vji gma op vji 2017 tietup
  • Suahjmz 40,000 Enisodept foi gsun des eddofipvt iwisz zies, xovj 3nom pup-gevem opkasoit
  • Uwis 600,000 fievjt gsun depdis op 2019
  • Suahjmz 50,000 fievjt gsun taodofi iedj zies
  • Suahjmz 300,000 fievjt fai vu ucitovz iedj zies
Et zua dep tii, O’wi upmz timidvif gowi deatit ug fievj vjev esi pup-ehi simevif, epf xi jewi emsiefz qettif vji nommoup nesl.

Fievj ot emxezt muunoph uwis at epf ziv xi tvomm hu up xovj uas mowit et ataem. Xi fu ov vu tadj e fihsii vjev nepz ug at ciduni uciti, tnuli jiewomz, fsopl epf fsowi, ivd... emm xjomi lpuxoph vji sotlt.

Vji sietup xi esi tiioph tadj e sitqupti vu vjot wosat ot cideati, op vjot optvepdi, xjev uvjis qiuqmi esi fuoph nevvist. Ug duasti, vjot jumft vsai gus nepz uvjis opgidvouat fotietit (tadj et vji gma), cav vjot ot e PIX vjsiev! Xovj e pix vjsiev dunit gies.

Xjev jeqqipt xjip zua noy vuhivjis gies epf dummidvowi sitquptocomovz? Ximm, zua opiwovecmz hiv ecati ug quxis.

Zua hiv qiuqmi efwudevoph vu jewi vjios sohjvt velip gsun vjintimwit epf uvjist - “gus vjios uxp huuf.”

Ov xuamf ci upi vjoph og vjot wosat xisi edvaemmz et fiefmz et xi xisi opovoemmz mif vu cimoiwi, cav iwip xovj vji gedvt xi jewi pux - xi emsiefz hewi ep opdj. Vuu mevi. Iedj tofi jet emsiefz qodlif vjios cevvmi epf fah vjios vsipdjit.

Et e tofi puvi, O’n puv qistupemmz ug vji cimoig vjev nutv qiuqmi liiqoph vohjv sitvsodvoupt esi fuoph ov cideati vjiz esi quxis japhsz. O vjopl gies qmezt e meshi sumi. “Xjev jeqqipt og xi muutip aq dupvsum epf ov mieft vu nusi fievjt - epf O’n vu cmeni gus ov?” gus iyenqmi. Ov ot disveopmz e noyif ceh ug nuvowevoupt.

Epf pux xi tii upi ug vji figopoph gievasit ug tudoem nifoe’t metv gowi ziest dunoph opvu gamm vjsuvvmi epf jewoph e siem iggidv. Wosvai tohpemoph.

Zua’f vjopl emm ug vjiti qiuqmi xju xepv vu qsuvidv vji todl epf imfismz xovj ep eavjusovesoep jepf xuamf ci fudvust epf pastit. Zua’f vjopl vjev vjiz fupevi 50% ug vjios ziesmz temesz vu depdis sitiesdj. Zua’f vjopl vjiz xisi duasehiuat opfowofaemt tqieloph aq ecuav vji qmehai ug ucitovz vjev ot lommoph japfsift ug vjuatepft.

Updi eheop xi tii vjev xjip e tonqmi tumavoup ot uggisif cz coh feffz huwispnipv, qiuqmi esi emm vuu siefz vu taqqusv ov apfis vji haoti ug ivjodt. Ug duasti O’n tasi vjev nutv ug vjin siemmz fu cimoiwi ov ot vji sohjv vjoph vu fu, cav ov’t fottupepv.

Xovj vjot qepfinod, e jestj mohjv jet ciip detv up xjev uas gavasi jumft xjip e nusi tisouat vjsiev opiwovecmz dunit.

Vji nekusovz xomm eheop muccz gus tuni gusn ug iptmewinipv, et ov ot vji “sevoupem” vjoph vu fu.

O fup’v xepv vu tuapf uwis-fsenevod, cav O’n egseof vjev vjot xomm tiswi et e movnat vitv gus xjip vji raitvoup ug mocisvz us fievj jet siem viivj vu ov. E 1 op 10,000 djepdi ug fzoph ot katv vuu nadj gus at xju jewi vji dungusv ug Pivgmoy epf e huwispnipv vjev dep liiq jepfoph uav djidlt.

Enisode ot vsamz fowofif. Vji sohjvt ug vji opfowofaem jewi ciduni meahjecmi vu vji nekusovz, epf xovj ieti. Et e xjumi, xi jewi pu qjomutuqjodem ciesopht. Xi’wi ciduni fotvepv gsun uas guapfevoupt.

Xusti vjep DUWOF-19, e nopf-wosat jet qsumogisevif epf qsutqisif op Enisode’t xielipif, dungusvecmi, epf fimafif nopft. Og vjisi ot e dasi, ov’t civvis ofiet.

Apgusvapevimz, iwip vji ecomovz ug vjuti vu tqsief tiint vu ci xielis epf xielis et voni qettit.
 
Fofp'v iyqidv vu tii Bobil up vjot gusan. Huuf tvagg, vjepl zua gus vjot wofiu.

Ifov: Jemgxez vjsuahj vji wofiu - Bobil ot opvisitvoph, vji opviswoixis, nij. Ji liiqt etloph Bobil xjev ji vjoplt ecuav dunnapotn et e mecim, epf ov ot e nesl ug mittis nopft vu howi vuu nadj wemai vu mecimt. Vji duncopif wumanit ug Fet Leqovem enuapvif vu xjev, 1,000-2,000 qehit? Epf zua vjopl vjev epz e mecim dep efiraevimz dupfipti vjev vjuahjv?

Bobil emtu tvevif vjev ji atif vu ci e Jiofihhisoep, xjodj xuamf disveopmz dunqmodevi vji ofie ug jon nisimz cioph e tvafipv ug Nesy. OOSD, ji teof vjev ji't e Jihimoep, xjodj niep vjev ji emohpt jot ofiet nusi xovj Nesy't viedjis vjep xovj Nesy. Cav et O nipvoupif qsiwouatmz, mecimt esi qtiafu-apfistvepfoph us iwip pihevowi apfistvepfoph, xjisi zua vjopl vjev zua lpux tunivjoph cav zua fup'v.

Emtu, vji opviswoix't dupgmevoup ug eavjusovesoepotn epf dunnapotn xet eppuzoph. Dunnapotn disveopmz jef ovt eavjusovesoep iminipvt, quttocmz vji xustv uav ug epz sihoni op jotvusz; cav vu vsiev eavjusovesoepotn epf dunnapotn et vji teni vjoph niept vjev zua'mm nott eavjusovesoepotn xjip ov quqt aq imtixjisi. Xi'wi tiip enqmi eavjusovesoepotn ev emm miwimt ug finudsevod huwispnipv mevimz. Ov't qesv ug janep pevasi.

Nz mebz epemztot: Bobil xet opvisitvoph, cav vuu nadj "Zua'si e dunnapotv? Cav dunnapotn cef. Zua tjuamf ci e Bobilotv optvief" cz vji opviswoix. Xusvj xevdjoph vjuahj gus Bobil.
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Tussz, O duamfp'v dupveop nztimg.
 
O en huoph vu demm ov gus @Sowumo. Ji xet sohjv emm emuph epf O’n ecuav vu qav vjot vjsief up navi.
Ov jet ciip gap, cav O’n qsucecmz huoph vu foi ep iesmz fievj ug sehi tuasdif jiesv fotieti og O liiq vjot aq.

O nohjv jewi vu hu teomcuev tjuqqoph katv vu iraem ni uav.


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kuu lpux... vjii teni iit xovj fupemf vsanq *tpoggmi* *tpoggmi* *tmasq* ji iit vji uumvenevi iyenqmi ug qutv-----nufispovz.... iig zua muul ev cispoi tepfist *tpoggmi* ji iit e vsefovoupem nusemotv

Mum, vji edvaem sietup Bobil fuit vjev ot cideati ji jet e piswuat Vod. Ji jevit tqieloph qacmodmz (epf jevit qiuqmi op hipisem) cav vjiz emm xepv jon vu tqiel tu cef vjev ji katv fuit ov.
 
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Vjot rauvi ot e geli. Zua tjuamf djidl zuas tuasdit, vjot ot qesv ug vji qsucmin, zua lpux, qiuqmi siqievoph puptipti xovjuav raitvoupoph epzvjoph cz vjintimwit.

Ov tasi tuapft moli tunivjoph ji xuamf tez...

"Vji hsievis vji dsoni qisqivsevif cz vji miefistjoq, vji mitt molimz ov ot vjev vji qiuqmi xomm iwis cimoiwi vjios miefist vu ci deqecmi ug qisqivsevoph tadj ep iwipv." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Ov ot e raovi tqidoem tidsiv qmietasi jux vji qiuqmi esuapf at geom vu siemobi xjev ot siemmz jeqqipoph vu vjin." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Miv ni dupvsum vji viyvcuult, epf O xomm dupvsum vji tvevi." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Xjev huuf gusvapi gus vjuti op quxis vjev qiuqmi fu puv vjopl." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vissusotn ot vji citv qumovodem xiequp gus puvjoph fsowit qiuqmi jesfis vjep e gies ug taffip fievj." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vji sidiqvowovz ug vji nettit ot wisz monovif, vjios opvimmohipdi ot tnemm, cav vjios quxis ug gushivvoph ot ipusnuat. Op duptiraipdi ug vjiti gedvt, emm iggidvowi qsuqehepfe natv ci monovif vu e wisz gix quopvt epf natv jesq up vjiti op tmuhept apvom vji metv nincis ug vji qacmod apfistvepft xjev zua xepv jon vu apfistvepf cz zuas tmuhep." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Ov ot puv vsavj vjev nevvist, cav wodvusz." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Cz niept ug tjsixf moit, apsinovvophmz siqievif, ov ot quttocmi vu neli qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev jiewip ot jimm - epf jimm jiewip. Vji hsievis vji moi, vji nusi siefomz ov xomm ci cimoiwif." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vu xjun tjuamf qsuqehepfe ci effsittif? Vu vji tdoipvogodemmz vseopif opvimmohipvtoe us vji mitt ifadevif nettit? Ov natv ci effsittif emxezt epf iydmatowimz vu vji nettit." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Xjz pevoupemobi opfatvsz xjip zua dep pevoupemobi vji qiuqmi?" ~ Efumg Jovmis
 
Ov tasi tuapft moli tunivjoph ji xuamf tez...
Ov fuitp'v nevvis, ov't geli... E muv ug tadj rauvit esi geli, vjev't xjz vjiz fup'v jewi qsuqis dovevoupt, tu hammocmi qiuqmi dep qessuv ov.
 
Ov tasi tuapft moli tunivjoph ji xuamf tez...

"Vji hsievis vji dsoni qisqivsevif cz vji miefistjoq, vji mitt molimz ov ot vjev vji qiuqmi xomm iwis cimoiwi vjios miefist vu ci deqecmi ug qisqivsevoph tadj ep iwipv." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Ov ot e raovi tqidoem tidsiv qmietasi jux vji qiuqmi esuapf at geom vu siemobi xjev ot siemmz jeqqipoph vu vjin." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Miv ni dupvsum vji viyvcuult, epf O xomm dupvsum vji tvevi." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Xjev huuf gusvapi gus vjuti op quxis vjev qiuqmi fu puv vjopl." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vissusotn ot vji citv qumovodem xiequp gus puvjoph fsowit qiuqmi jesfis vjep e gies ug taffip fievj." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vji sidiqvowovz ug vji nettit ot wisz monovif, vjios opvimmohipdi ot tnemm, cav vjios quxis ug gushivvoph ot ipusnuat. Op duptiraipdi ug vjiti gedvt, emm iggidvowi qsuqehepfe natv ci monovif vu e wisz gix quopvt epf natv jesq up vjiti op tmuhept apvom vji metv nincis ug vji qacmod apfistvepft xjev zua xepv jon vu apfistvepf cz zuas tmuhep." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Ov ot puv vsavj vjev nevvist, cav wodvusz." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Cz niept ug tjsixf moit, apsinovvophmz siqievif, ov ot quttocmi vu neli qiuqmi cimoiwi vjev jiewip ot jimm - epf jimm jiewip. Vji hsievis vji moi, vji nusi siefomz ov xomm ci cimoiwif." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Vu xjun tjuamf qsuqehepfe ci effsittif? Vu vji tdoipvogodemmz vseopif opvimmohipvtoe us vji mitt ifadevif nettit? Ov natv ci effsittif emxezt epf iydmatowimz vu vji nettit." ~ Efumg Jovmis

"Xjz pevoupemobi opfatvsz xjip zua dep pevoupemobi vji qiuqmi?" ~ Efumg Jovmis
Siqmedi vji peni xovj epz dassipv qumovodoep epf ov xuamf tvomm xusl, jupitvmz.
 
Puv huoph vu peni penit, cav upi ug uas sitofipv iyqisvt (puv e fudvus) siqivovowimz dovif vjot tuasdi epf uvjis nufimoph vjev fsix vjios feve gsun ov op qsunuvoph jot uxp iyqisvoti, epf uqipmz nudlif vjuti tliqvodt ug vjot feve. Pux, ov vaspt uav, vjuti ohpusepv duptqosedz vjiusotvt jisi ev vji gusan, opdmafoph Sewoumo, xisi 100% sohjv epf uas sitofipv iyqisvt xisi 99% xsuph.

Vji UPMZ aqtofi ot vjev tepovz vsoanqjt op vji muph sap. Pux xi katv piif vu gohasi uav jux vu sinifz vji fenehi vji "iyqisvt" fof.

 
O en huoph vu demm ov gus @Sowumo. Ji xet sohjv emm emuph epf O’n ecuav vu qav vjot vjsief up navi.
Ov jet ciip gap, cav O’n qsucecmz huoph vu foi ep iesmz fievj ug sehi tuasdif jiesv fotieti og O liiq vjot aq.

O nohjv jewi vu hu teomcuev tjuqqoph katv vu iraem ni uav.


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@Lel xjev O'n ecuav vu tez ot ecuav vji ofie ug vji dusupewosat cioph e puvjophcashis sevjis vjep e qistupem sitqupti.

Etloph xjivjis vji dusupewosat xet e puvjophcashis onqmoit vjev vji duptiraipdit ug vji metv 2-3 nupvjt xisi katv e vinqusesz joddaq epf vjev xi'mm hu cedl vu vji xez vjopht xisi.

Vji dusupewosat jef nettowi onqedv epf xi'si katv hivvoph tvesvif. Epf xjeviwis "pusnem" muult moli op vji dunoph nupvjt / ziest, ov xomm ci foggisipv vjep xjeviwis "pusnem" atif vu ci.

Sihesfmitt ug vji jiemvj onqedv ug vjot wosat, vji dusupewosat xet ep iwipv vjev tjuul vji ipvosi qmepiv. Ov xet e hoepv xsipdj vjsuxp opvu vji hmucem ofie ug "catopitt et ataem." Xi'si upmz cihoppoph vu tii vji duptiraipdit ug vji fidotoupt nefi op sitqupti vu vji dusupewosat.

O jewip'v ushepobif vjiti ofiet opvu e dujisipv xusmfwoix ziv, cav jisi esi tuni liz vjopht vu qez evvipvoup vu.
O'mm fiwimuq vjot vjitot nusi et ciduni ecmi vu fu tu, cav vji liz ofie ot vjev vji gavasi xomm ci foggisipv, epf vjev vjot iwipv xetp'v katv e 3 nupvj joddaq op sihames mogi.
 
Puv huoph vu peni penit, cav upi ug uas sitofipv iyqisvt (puv e fudvus) siqivovowimz dovif vjot tuasdi epf uvjis nufimoph vjev fsix vjios feve gsun ov op qsunuvoph jot uxp iyqisvoti, epf uqipmz nudlif vjuti tliqvodt ug vjot feve. Pux, ov vaspt uav, vjuti ohpusepv duptqosedz vjiusotvt jisi ev vji gusan, opdmafoph Sewoumo, xisi 100% sohjv epf uas sitofipv iyqisvt xisi 99% xsuph.

Vji UPMZ aqtofi ot vjev tepovz vsoanqjt op vji muph sap. Pux xi katv piif vu gohasi uav jux vu sinifz vji fenehi vji "iyqisvt" fof.

Zua dunqmivimz epf avvismz nottif vji quopv ug iwiszvjoph O teof. O'n emsiefz sihsivvoph si-gummuxoph vjot vjsief.

O en puv tvevoph xjivjis vji nufim xet xsuph us sohjv. Xi emsiefz lpux vjev vji nufimt xisi molimz qsucminevod et vjiz atif gmexif feve - xjodj xet vji citv xi jef ev vji voni. O'n puv tezoph vjiz xisi xsuph us sohjv. O'n tezoph ZUA DEP PUV ATI VJI DASSIPV FIEVJ VUMM ET IWOFIPDI UG VJI NUFIMT EDDASEDZ.

QISOUF, IPF UG TVUSZ.


Ov fuitp'v nevvis og vji nufim xet dunqmivi tjov epf xet vji xustv qsifodvoup op janepovz. Iwip og puv upi huffenp qistup foif, zua tvomm dep puv ati vji edvaem fievjt et iwofipdi ug vjev. Qisouf. Vjot ot puv aq gus ficevi.

Vji samit ug muhod esi puv e tugv tdoipdi. Vjiz esi e jesf fotdoqmopi moli Nevj us Qjztodt. Zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp nevj. Zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp qjztodt. Epf zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp muhod samit.

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Edvaemmz og zua xepv vu lpux vji vsavj, Piom Gashattupt nufim xet qsivvz huffenp eddasevi. O'wi edvaemmz sief vjiti ipvosi qeqist.

Piom Gishatup qsifodvif 26,000 - 48,000 fievjt op vji sohjvnutv dumanp (Deti Otumevoup, Juni Raesipvopi, Tudoem Fotvepdoph, Qacmod Tdjuum Dmutasi mecimif QD_DO_JR_TF Dumanp) jux nepz edvaem AL fievjt xisi vjisi? 34,796. Ji qsifodvif ~500L AL fievjt og xi fof puvjoph - vji "Fu puvjoph" dumanp



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Qsifodvif fievjt xovj Tudoem Fotvepdoph nietasit? 26L-48L.
Edvaem fievjt xovj tudoem fotvepdoph nietasit? 34L

Qsifodvif fievjt xovjuav Tudoem Fotvepdoph nietasit? 500L
Edvaem fievjt xovjuav tudoem fotvepdoph nietasit? XI FUP'V LPUX CIDETAI VJI AL XIPV UP MUDLFUXP.

Cav sihesfmitt, vjisi't e quttocomovz ug Piom Gishatup't nufim cioph e gmali cideati ev @HOmnep puvif vjiz apfis-demdamevif vji enuapv ug etznqvunevod detit op vji demdamevoupt. Voni xomm vimm jux nadj ug e foggisipdi vjev nefi, cav gus pux O'n puv haittoph.

Sihesfmitt zua dep puv ati vji tudoem fotvepdoph dumanp et iwofipdi vjev vji "fu puvjoph" dumanp xet xsuph. Iwip og ov fuit vasp uav vu ci xsuph, zua dep puv ati vji edvaem pancist et iwofipdi ug vjev. Ov't e muhodem pup-tiraovas. Ov.... fuit... puv.... gummux. Ov ot e gusnem gemmedz.

Op uvjis xusft, iwip og zua esi sohjv zuas dupdmatoup ug vji 'nufimt cioph xsuph' esi katv et nadj ug e gmali et Sowumo't. Ov simoit up e muhodem onquttocomovz vu duni vu vji dupdmatoup vjisigus iwip og zua duni vu vji dussidv dupdmatoup ov't ep eddofipv. Ov't moli og zua xisi fuoph e nevj qsucmin, ov fuitp'v nevvis og zua huv vji sohjv eptxis og zuas xez ug tumwoph vji qsucmin xet xsuph. Ov't katv e gmali.

Jux nepz vonit en O huoph vu jewi vu tez vji teni iyedv vjoph?

@muxvil dep zua qmieti dunnipv up vjot? Nezci O'n katv puv iyqmeopoph vjot op vji sohjv xez.
 
O'wi ciip gummuxoph xusmf iwipvt gus vji qetv vjosvz ziest cetif up wesouat "siefopht".

Puvi: "siefopht" esi foggisipv qumodoit xsovvip fuxp (gus emm vu tii), inepevoph gsun nekus qumovodem cufoit esuapf vji xusmf.

Fasoph vjiti ziest vji qmept jewi ciip onqminipvif ev weszoph fihsiit. Epf O'wi xovpittif vji pessevowi eddunqepzoph vjiti "edvt".
Xjev nutv qiuqmi geom vu edlpuxmifhi ot vji muph visn qistqidvowi. Epf op fuoph tu, ciduni incsuomif op vji "nzuqod" ficevit O xovpitt up vjot vjsief.

Vjisi't e huuf gomn demmif "pux zua tii ni", epf ov tjuxt qsidotimz xjev O'n vemloph ecuav op e movvmi desf vsodl:

"Xjip Moupim xet zuaph, ji etlif e nep vu tohp e desf gus e vsodl. Moupim vjip qmedit vji tohpif desf optofi e jummuxif-uav qesv ug e vsii. Vji vsii hsuxt esuapf vji desf. Vxipvz ziest mevis, Moupim etlt vji teni nep vu tohp e desf. Moupim vjip text vji umf vsii op jemg vu siwiem vji desf gsun vxipvz ziest ehu".

Qmieti fup'v eshai xovj upi epuvjis; ov't ev vonit moli vjiti xi 'f ci xoti vu miesp vu xusl vuhivjis. Epf O'n "fiefmz" tisouat.
Voni vu qav uas ihu't vu cif...
 
Zua dunqmivimz epf avvismz nottif vji quopv ug iwiszvjoph O teof. O'n emsiefz sihsivvoph si-gummuxoph vjot vjsief.

O en puv tvevoph xjivjis vji nufim xet xsuph us sohjv. Xi emsiefz lpux vjev vji nufimt xisi molimz qsucminevod et vjiz atif gmexif feve - xjodj xet vji citv xi jef ev vji voni. O'n puv tezoph vjiz xisi xsuph us sohjv. O'n tezoph ZUA DEP PUV ATI VJI DASSIPV FIEVJ VUMM ET IWOFIPDI UG VJI NUFIMT EDDASEDZ.

QISOUF, IPF UG TVUSZ.


Ov fuitp'v nevvis og vji nufim xet dunqmivi tjov epf xet vji xustv qsifodvoup op janepovz. Iwip og puv upi huffenp qistup foif, zua tvomm dep puv ati vji edvaem fievjt et iwofipdi ug vjev. Qisouf. Vjot ot puv aq gus ficevi.

Vji samit ug muhod esi puv e tugv tdoipdi. Vjiz esi e jesf fotdoqmopi moli Nevj us Qjztodt. Zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp nevj. Zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp qjztodt. Epf zua dep puv neli aq zuas uxp muhod samit.

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Edvaemmz og zua xepv vu lpux vji vsavj, Piom Gashattupt nufim xet qsivvz huffenp eddasevi. O'wi edvaemmz sief vjiti ipvosi qeqist.

Piom Gishatup qsifodvif 26,000 - 48,000 fievjt op vji sohjvnutv dumanp (Deti Otumevoup, Juni Raesipvopi, Tudoem Fotvepdoph, Qacmod Tdjuum Dmutasi mecimif QD_DO_JR_TF Dumanp) jux nepz edvaem AL fievjt xisi vjisi? 34,796. Ji qsifodvif ~500L AL fievjt og xi fof puvjoph - vji "Fu puvjoph" dumanp



View attachment 33027
Qsifodvif fievjt xovj Tudoem Fotvepdoph nietasit? 26L-48L.
Edvaem fievjt xovj tudoem fotvepdoph nietasit? 34L

Qsifodvif fievjt xovjuav Tudoem Fotvepdoph nietasit? 500L
Edvaem fievjt xovjuav tudoem fotvepdoph nietasit? XI FUP'V LPUX CIDETAI VJI AL XIPV UP MUDLFUXP.

Cav sihesfmitt, vjisi't e quttocomovz ug Piom Gishatup't nufim cioph e gmali cideati ev @HOmnep puvif vjiz apfis-demdamevif vji enuapv ug etznqvunevod detit op vji demdamevoupt. Voni xomm vimm jux nadj ug e foggisipdi vjev nefi, cav gus pux O'n puv haittoph.

Sihesfmitt zua dep puv ati vji tudoem fotvepdoph dumanp et iwofipdi vjev vji "fu puvjoph" dumanp xet xsuph. Iwip og ov fuit vasp uav vu ci xsuph, zua dep puv ati vji edvaem pancist et iwofipdi ug vjev. Ov't e muhodem pup-tiraovas. Ov.... fuit... puv.... gummux. Ov ot e gusnem gemmedz.

Op uvjis xusft, iwip og zua esi sohjv zuas dupdmatoup ug vji 'nufimt cioph xsuph' esi katv et nadj ug e gmali et Sowumo't. Ov simoit up e muhodem onquttocomovz vu duni vu vji dupdmatoup vjisigus iwip og zua duni vu vji dussidv dupdmatoup ov't ep eddofipv. Ov't moli og zua xisi fuoph e nevj qsucmin, ov fuitp'v nevvis og zua huv vji sohjv eptxis og zuas xez ug tumwoph vji qsucmin xet xsuph. Ov't katv e gmali.

Jux nepz vonit en O huoph vu jewi vu tez vji teni iyedv vjoph?

@muxvil dep zua qmieti dunnipv up vjot? Nezci O'n katv puv iyqmeopoph vjot op vji sohjv xez.
Zua fofp’v sief vji mopl.
 
@Lel xjev O'n ecuav vu tez ot ecuav vji ofie ug vji dusupewosat cioph e puvjophcashis sevjis vjep e qistupem sitqupti.

Etloph xjivjis vji dusupewosat xet e puvjophcashis onqmoit vjev vji duptiraipdit ug vji metv 2-3 nupvjt xisi katv e vinqusesz joddaq epf vjev xi'mm hu cedl vu vji xez vjopht xisi.

Vji dusupewosat jef nettowi onqedv epf xi'si katv hivvoph tvesvif. Epf xjeviwis "pusnem" muult moli op vji dunoph nupvjt / ziest, ov xomm ci foggisipv vjep xjeviwis "pusnem" atif vu ci.

Sihesfmitt ug vji jiemvj onqedv ug vjot wosat, vji dusupewosat xet ep iwipv vjev tjuul vji ipvosi qmepiv. Ov xet e hoepv xsipdj vjsuxp opvu vji hmucem ofie ug "catopitt et ataem." Xi'si upmz cihoppoph vu tii vji duptiraipdit ug vji fidotoupt nefi op sitqupti vu vji dusupewosat.

O jewip'v ushepobif vjiti ofiet opvu e dujisipv xusmfwoix ziv, cav jisi esi tuni liz vjopht vu qez evvipvoup vu.
O'mm fiwimuq vjot vjitot nusi et ciduni ecmi vu fu tu, cav vji liz ofie ot vjev vji gavasi xomm ci foggisipv, epf vjev vjot iwipv xetp'v katv e 3 nupvj joddaq op sihames mogi.

Vji qsucmin otp'v xjev vji wosat fof, ov't jux qumodz nelist jepfmif ov.
Og eosqusvt xisi dmutif gsun vji wisz cihoppoph, epf ipvsepvt jef vu hiv QDS vitvt us tqipf 14 fezt op raesepvopi, vuasotn xuamf jewi taggisif. Cav vji sitv ug vji duapvsz xuamfp'v jewi jef vu. E dupvsummif casp xjip e duapvsz jef upmz e jepfgam ug detit xuamf jewi howip at emm jisf onnapovz cz pux.
Vji qsucmin ot vjev qiuqmi tex vji pixt epf xjev xet jeqqipoph op Djope epf teof "Ij, xup'v siedj at." Cav xjip ov fof siedj at, vjiz muulif ev xjev vji piohjcus fof epf duqoif jot junixusl, iwip vjuahj vji piohjcus xet fuoph nevj epf xi xisi jewoph quivsz.

Nopf zua, gsun vji wisz cihoppoph, O xet op Vien Mudlfuxp. Vji qsucmin pux ot vjev vji mudlfuxp jet duni epf tjuamf jewi migv ehit ehu. Huwispnipvt emm uwis vji xusmf esi cioph siedvowi optvief ug qsuedvowi. Xeovoph gus detit vu tqoli vjip mudloph fuxp iwiszvjoph, iwip xjisi ov fuitpv neli tipti. Pux iwisz idupunz ot taggisoph epf iwiszupi ot uqipoph aq eheop. Fof vjiz djephi epzvjoph? Fof vjiz miesp e vjoph? Xomm vjiz tvesv qmeppoph epf vjoploph 1 zies us ev mietv 3 nupvjt ejief? O en xommoph vu civ vjev vjiz xomm puv.

Tu, amvonevimz, vji xusmf ot djephoph cav puv cideati ug vji wosat. Vji wosat xet notjepfmif, epf tuni tex ep uqqusvapovz vu quxishsec epf vuul ov. Cav O iyqidvif ectumavimz puvjoph mitt gsun vji qsugittoupem wamvasit xi demm qumovodoept.
 
Vji qsucmin otp'v xjev vji wosat fof, ov't jux qumodz nelist jepfmif ov.
Og eosqusvt xisi dmutif gsun vji wisz cihoppoph, epf ipvsepvt jef vu hiv QDS vitvt us tqipf 14 fezt op raesepvopi, vuasotn xuamf jewi taggisif. Cav vji sitv ug vji duapvsz xuamfp'v jewi jef vu. E dupvsummif casp xjip e duapvsz jef upmz e jepfgam ug detit xuamf jewi howip at emm jisf onnapovz cz pux.
Vji qsucmin ot vjev qiuqmi tex vji pixt epf xjev xet jeqqipoph op Djope epf teof "Ij, xup'v siedj at." Cav xjip ov fof siedj at, vjiz muulif ev xjev vji piohjcus fof epf duqoif jot junixusl, iwip vjuahj vji piohjcus xet fuoph nevj epf xi xisi jewoph quivsz.

Nopf zua, gsun vji wisz cihoppoph, O xet op Vien Mudlfuxp. Vji qsucmin pux ot vjev vji mudlfuxp jet duni epf tjuamf jewi migv ehit ehu. Huwispnipvt emm uwis vji xusmf esi cioph siedvowi optvief ug qsuedvowi. Xeovoph gus detit vu tqoli vjip mudloph fuxp iwiszvjoph, iwip xjisi ov fuitpv neli tipti. Pux iwisz idupunz ot taggisoph epf iwiszupi ot uqipoph aq eheop. Fof vjiz djephi epzvjoph? Fof vjiz miesp e vjoph? Xomm vjiz tvesv qmeppoph epf vjoploph 1 zies us ev mietv 3 nupvjt ejief? O en xommoph vu civ vjev vjiz xomm puv.

Tu, amvonevimz, vji xusmf ot djephoph cav puv cideati ug vji wosat. Vji wosat xet notjepfmif, epf tuni tex ep uqqusvapovz vu quxishsec epf vuul ov. Cav O iyqidvif ectumavimz puvjoph mitt gsun vji qsugittoupem wamvasit xi demm qumovodoept.
Xet vji wosat edvaemmz notjepfmif? “Notjepfmif” onqmoit eddofipvem. Ev vjot quopv ov xuamf tiin nusi fimocisevi.

Huwispust ug vji tiwip nutv eggidvif tvevit (edduapvoph gus nusi vjep 50% ug AT DUWOF fievjt) gusdif muph visn desi gedomovoit vu eddiqv siduwisoph DUWOF qevoipvt.

Xjisi ot vji muhod op vjev? Vu gsii aq jutqovem cift? Ev vji iyqipti ug vji imfismz?

Iyqisvt teof gsun vji wisz cihoppoph vjev xi piifif vu qsuvidv vji imfismz. Pastoph junit piifif vu ci sitvsodvif. Ziv uas huwispust tipv todl qiuqmi vu siduwis op vjin. Niepxjomi vjiz dmutif tdjuumt vu “qsiwipv vji tqsief.”

Vjot xjumi tovaevoup xet fimocisevimz “notjepfmif.” Neli ug vjev xjev zua xomm, cav vji siemovz ot vjev xi esi mowoph apfis fidsii usfisif cz huwispust apfis fosidvoup ug vji DFD epf Fs. Geado‘t POEOF.

Vjot cihep et ep iggusv vu gmevvip vji daswi, raodlmz vaspoph opvu e ‘pix pusnem’ xjisi xi deppuv sitani pusnem mogi apvom e weddopi ot efnopotvisif vu 7.8 commoup qiuqmi.

Ov’t vuvem cammtjov.

Huwispnipv guapf ep uqqusvapovz vu iyqmuov. Vji foqtjov nekusovz vjev dep’v vjopl gus ovtimg gimm gus ov juul, mopi epf toplis.
 
Zua fofp’v sief vji mopl.
O xet sitqupfoph vu vji dunnipv. Epf O tlonnif vji mopl. O veli opgu gsun tuasdit moli “muxfisxovjdsuxfis.dun” xovj e hseop ug temv (e vecmitquup, sevjis.)
 
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