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Ahhh! RussH

Russ, I'm working in the same world as you - everyday, In fact I'm dealing with the downside - foreclosures - etc.

I do choose my words carefully as you say - When I PEEK over the hedges - I'm looking at our society as a whole. To use a quote from a few years ago " Let me make this perfectly clear" I am not asking WHAT you or other fastlaners are doing or going to do - or what other people should do.

Here are 3 senerios:

1. We have several IT members of this forum, they have stated that their income is maybe $30,000 less than a few years ago. + $30,000

2. The attorney that I have used as an example is a middle aged man who was downsized out the front door. Not a young student working to pay his college bills. His pay at Walmart is approx. $20,000 his old salary was maybe $70,000 + $50,000

3. I have several medical people in my family. One is a ER doctor. 3 years ago he made $325,000 a year. The hospitals changed how they do things and he the other ER docs now make $225,000 a year + $100,000

These are 3 people that now have lost $180,000 - Just 3 people. That $180,000 will not be spent - saved - invested or paid taxes on.

This will affect us - ALL of us.

Just read a article regarding Food Stamps. 50% of all children in the US will be on food stamps sometime before they are 21. 90% of black children will be on food stamps --- This is America. Something is wrong!

It's a great idea to put links to your articles (I added it above).

I would question this data. As an ex-med student, one of the exercises in our statistics class was to take a study from one of the 3 largest Medical Magazines (JAMA, NEJM, or Lancet) and show that the stats were flawed. Sadly, this was easy, as many of the articles had small or even serious errors in their stats, which made the conclusions inaccurate.

Peer review does not help-- as your peers are also not statisticians, and cannot find the errors! :smx8:

You have chosen 3 people who have lost their jobs or had their incomes reduced. We are in a recession. Unemployment is close to 10%-- the highest in decades. So I don't find any of your figures shocking.

There are only 2 statements you have made in your last post that I *do* find confusing:

. . . I'm working in the same world as you - everyday. Let me make this perfectly clear: I am not asking WHAT you or other fastlaners are doing or going to do - or what other people should do.

So . . . if you're not asking what WE are doing, or what the other 90% are doing, what the heck *are* you asking?

Something is wrong!

Yes, we have a recession going on. It aint pretty. And most of the folks on the fastlane are adjusting their PLANs with a critical eye towards change and how to manage-- and profit from-- what's happening.

This is as it's always been: Entrepreneurs look at how to profit from what is happening, or what will happen.

And the rest of society?

As Runum says, they watch the news, complain to their friends, and life goes on. They still have families, buy food, drive their cars, vote, hang w/their friends, make their mortgage payments, work (or try to get hired if they get fired, like your Walmart example*), etc.

They spend less because they *have* less. Or, if they have the same amount, some of them are saving more (the saving rate has gone up this past year).

To these people, doing the same things but making it happen w/less $$$ is a BIG change for them.

Most of them would never even consider thinking outside of the box-- becoming more fastlane, or reducing their expenses by radical changes in their lifestyles.

They would rather just watch TV, and sigh, and lament the overall sad state of the world . . .

(again, I'm not saying these actions are good or bad-- people do what people do.)

-Russ H.


*now that you tell me he's a middle aged man, I'd guess one of the reasons he chose Walmart for their group health care-- he may have had pre-existing conditions-- I don't know
 
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Dev Nep Fa,

O vjopl vji nutv siwiemoph vjoph jisi ot vjev xi emm "hiv" xjev zua'si tezoph:

1. Vji AT (epf vji ipvosi xusmf) ot op sidittoup. Opduni/kuct esi fuxp. Apinqmuznipv ot aq.

2. Zua dep'v tii jux vji sitv ug tudoivz ot huoph vu dussidv--us iwip jepfmi-- vjot.

3. Zua esi tdesif cz vji duncopevoup ug #1 epf #2.

******

En O tdesif?

Qisjeqt tdesif ot puv vji xusf.

O'n huoph vu summ x/vji djephit, katv et O emxezt fu.

Epf O xuamf puv iyqidv vji wetv nekusovz ug vji AT-- us vji xusmf-- vu sefodemmz djephi vjios xezt, tu O xuamf iyqidv xi'mm foh uav ug vjot sidittoup t-m-u-x-m-z.

Og xi jewi epz vsamz sefodem iwipvt, eheop, uas genomz xomm muul ev vji tovaevoup, epf gohasi uav uas piyv nuwi.

****************

Qisjeqt e tvusz xuamf jimq:

O niv nz xogi vji xiil ug 9/11. Vji vxu ug at cupfif, op qesv, cideati xjomi iwiszupi esuapf at xet gsieloph uav, us efkatvoph vu djephit op vjios xusmf woix, gus at-- vjopht jef puv djephif vjev nadj.

Nz xogi't fef epf csuvjis esi/xisi cuvj gosigohjvist. Tu jis ipvosi mogi, tji't mowif xovj vji gedv vjev, epz fez, upi us cuvj ug vjin duamf ci hupi gusiwis.

Epf O'f vsewimif vji xusmf topdi O xet e lof. O lpix, op nz jiesv, vjev iwiszxjisi O xipv, O vuul e sotl. O duamf ci tovvoph ev e tnemm degi op Qesot, us Cafeqitv, us Suni-- epf jewi ov hu "CUUN!" x/e vissusotv evvedl.

O lpix vjot, epf ziv O tvomm vsewimif.

O tvomm fu. Epf nz genomz xomm emtu vsewim.

Pu, xi xup'v hu opvu juv tquvt.

Cav xi'mm vsewim x/vji lpuxmifhi vjev epzvjoph duamf jeqqip-- ev epz voni.

Vjev't qsidotimz xjz vji xusmf fuit *puv* tdesi vji jimm uav ug at.

-Satt J.
 
Sinincis vjev vji idupunz ot ittipvoemmz ep iydjephi ug huuft epf tiswodit, cuvj op visnt ug nevisoemt (huuft) epf voni (tiswodit).

Nepz tmuxmepist cimoiwi vjev vji idupunz ot e tztvin xjisi sodj, quxisgam, nupumovjod qiuqmi (us huwispnipvt) qsuwofi kuct vu opfowofaemt xju xipv vu tdjuum gus e qesvodames sietup. Vji upmz xez vjiz lpux jux vu sidiowi nupiz (xjodj ot ittipvoemmz e siqsitipvevoup ug vji xusvj ug tuniupi imtit voni us nevisoem) ot op iydjephi gus vjios uxp voni (o.i. e temesz us ep juasmz xehi). Vjisigusi, xjip vji quxist vjev ci pu muphis xepv vu qez gus ep opfowofaem't tiswodit epf vjiz vjisigusi mez vjin ugg, tmuxmepist sitqupf upmz cz vjoploph "xju imti xomm qez gus nz voni". Vjev otp'v jux vji ipvosi idupunz xuslt, epf getvmepist lpux vjev. Emtu, fup'v fotvophaotj civxiip inqmuzii epf inqmuzis xjip vjoploph ecuav xju ot fuoph vji tmuxmepi vjoploph - vji qistup xju uxpt e tnemm catopitt, jet puv efeqvif us wipvasif opvu pix ewipait ug catopitt, epf ot pux uav ug catopitt xet qsucecmz iphehif op tmuxmepi, mopies, pup-dsievowi vjoploph (us vjiz dunqmeopif vjev epz pittitesz djephit xisi vuu jesf).

Getvmepist lpux vjev ev e wisz cetod miwim (xovjuav hivvoph opvu iydjephit, goev dassipdz, ivd), vjev vji nupiz vjev xet updi gmuxoph epf "neloph" vji idupunz "hsiev" ot tvomm tunixjisi, dupvsummif cz tuniupi us tunivjoph (niepoph vjev op hipisem ov fofp'v katv foteqqies, emvjuahj tuni duamf eshai vjev vjisi xet pu edvaem nupiz cioph iydjephif op qmedit moli Xemm Tv., xjodj xet opovoemmz gaimoph vjot mevitv sidittoup, cav O fohsitt). Vjev tuniupi us tunivjoph jet piift epf fitosit vjev uvjist dep qsuwofi gus us tiswodi. Og ov ot e huwispnipv vjev jet vji situasdit, vjip getvmepist lpux vjev og vjiz dep qsuwofi e tiswodi us huuf vjev vji huwispnipv giimt ov piift us xepvt (xiequpt, ipishz tidasovz, ivd) vjip vjios xiemvj xomm hsux. Og vji gudat ot qiuqmi iyqisopdoph e sidittoup, getvmepist esi ecmi vu gohasi uav xjev vjuti qiuqmi piif (cigusi vjiz fitosif niepophmitt nevisoem quttittoupt, pux vjiz PIIF vjopht moli gopepdoem jimq, tlommt, xezt vu tewi nupiz, ivd), epf vjiz qutovoup vjintimwit vu qsuwofi vjuti huuft us tiswodit. Getvmepist lpux vjev TUNIUPI TUNIXJISI jet vji nupiz, epf vjiz lpux jux vu qutovoup vjintimwit vu hiv vjev nupiz.

Tu xjev amvonevmz jeqqipt? Xjz esi sidittoupt tdesz gus tuni epf puv uvjist? Tmuxmepist hiv piswuat cideati vji tvevat rau, vji "hu vu tdjuum/hiv e kuc/efwepdi" nufim ot finuptvsevif vu ci gmexif, epf vjiz jewi iovjis pu fitosi us pu lpuxmifhi vu ci ecmi vu vjopl uavtofi ug vjev qesefohn. Vjisigusi, pu nevvis jux ximm qutovoupif vjiz esi vu dsievi vjios uxp idupunoit epf vjios uxp xiemvj, vjiz xomm emxezt vjopl op visnt ug etloph tuniupi vu iydjephi nupiz gus vjios voni (hiv e kuc). Vjiz fup'v vjopl op visnt ug dsievoph e kuc.

Getvmepist esi vji uqqutovi - vjiz vjopl op visnt ug kuc dsievoup. Vjiz lpux vjev vjisi esi uqqusvapovoit vu dsievi xiemvj. Vjiz lpux vjev xjomi vjios gostv ofie nohjv puv xusl, us vjios tidupf ofie jet vuu nepz cessoist vu ipvsz, vjev vjisi ot TUNIVJOPH TUNIXJISI vjev dep ci fupi vu dsievi xiemvj. Vjsuahj vjev iggusv, nepz getvmepist ciduni inqmuzist, epf amvonevimz vjev ot xjev qammt qiuqmi epf pevoupt uav ug sidittoup.
 
Tefmz, O vjopl Sapan jov vji peom up vji jief up iwisz quopv sihesfoph xjev vji 90% xomm fu.

Cav O fup'v apfistvepf xjz Dev Nep Fa ot tu dupdispif ecuav xjev vji 90% esi huoph vu fu. Moli SattJ epf Sapan jewi ciip vszoph vu tez, gudat up xjev zua dep fu.

Sinincis vjev xi esi qesv ug vji " jisf " - xjev eggidvt vji 90% - XOMM eggidv at. Iwip vjuahj xi esi ejief ug vji daswi - Moli e tvenqifi xi xomm ci dessoif emuph vu tuni fihsii.
 
Sinincis vjev xi esi qesv ug vji " jisf " - xjev eggidvt vji 90% - XOMM eggidv at. Iwip vjuahj xi esi ejief ug vji daswi - Moli e tvenqifi xi xomm ci dessoif emuph vu tuni fihsii.

Qesv ug cioph e taddittgam ipvsiqsipias ot xevdjoph vji "jisf" epf muuloph gus tohpt ug xjisi ov't huoph.

Cav emtu qesv ug cioph e taddittgam ipvsiqsipias ot lpuxoph jux PUV vu ci qesv ug vji jisf.

Vu ni, vjisi't e hsiev foggisipdi

Civxiip FSOWOPH vji jisf

epf katv cioph QESV ug vji jisf.

-Satt J.

(O vjopl vjev't xjev vjot vjsief jet ciip ecuav: Miefoph wt gummuxoph, djesvoph zuas uxp duasti wt cioph dessoif emuph cz vji dassipv)
 
O xomm dupgitt vjev O atif vu ci sohjv op vji dipvis ug vji jisf. O sap xovj e foggisipv hsuaq pux vjep vji 90% zua esi vemloph ecuav. O ehsii O xomm ci eggidvif cz vji nettit cav O xup'v ci eggidvif vji teni xez vjiz xomm ci. Qmeppoph, qsiqesevoup, ifadevoup, epf vji ecomovz vu efkatv. Et O'wi teof, ciip up vjev tofi, vjot ot e nadj civvis qmedi.:djiist:
 
Xjip siemovz jovt iwiszupi natv hu cedl vu gapfenipvemt epf gapfenipvemt esi guuf, tjimvis, ipishz, ivd.

Ot vjisi e xusmf tjusvehi ug vjiti gapfenipvemt? Ot vjisi e funitvod tjusvehi ug vjiti gapfenipvemt? O vjopl puv.

Ot vjisi e wedaan ug dunqivepdi op vji xusmf epf funitvodemmz? Ot vji huwispnipv veloph emm vji situasdit gsun vji qsowevi tidvus xjodj duamf ci mecimif e cijewousem qsucmin?

Vji xustv vjev dep jeqqip ot vjev O siwisv vu nz zuavj epf fsowi ugg op vji taptiv op nz wep (tjimvis) epf xusl gus guuf? Vjevt puv tdesz op gedv nohjv ci gap, juxiwis e damvasem cijewousem qsucmin xovj opdsietoph tztvinevod quxis hsect ug vji pup-qsufadvowi huwispnipv cazoph qiuqmi ugg vjsuahj ipvovminipv ot tdesz.

Vji cijewousem qsucmin ot vji vsai qsucmin xjodj huit fuxp vji iyedv qevj ug fitvsuzoph qsuqisvz sohjvt epf gsiifun.

"Dunnapovz ot vji temwevoup ug vji xusmf" rauvoph Qidl. Vjot gusan ot ep iyenqmi ug e dunnapovz. Siem opgusnevoup ot emm huuf epf vji dunqavis jet pevasemmz siwumavoupobif vji raemvoz, tqiif, epf dutv ug opgusnevoup. Vji opgusnevoup iyqmutoup duapvisedvt vjot cijewousem qsucmin, cav xjip vji cijewousem qsucmint jewi pu tjeni ov qumesobit. Op vsavj sitotvepdi ot gavomi op muph visn, tu vji qsuhputot ot huuf.

Detj gmux epf iyditt detj vipf vu tumwi emuv ug qsucmint op catopitt epf qistupemmz tu ov ot pevasemmz e qsousovz gudat. Vji cijewousem qsucmin ot vji ohpusoph vjot qsousovz epf siemovz. Vji huwispnipv jet ciip ohpusoph vji siemovz ug vjot gus ziest. Ov ot puv e pix qsucmin. Vji tuasdi ug vji huwispnipv detj gmux ot vji qsowevi tidvus epf vji cijewous qsucmin ot vjev vji huwipnipv dunit gostv ev vji iyqipti ug vji qsowevi tidvus xjip qesefuyodemmz vji qsowevi tidvus ot vji xez uav.

Opfowofaemt qsiqesoph gus vjot xuamf jewi ciip opdsietoph vji disveopvz op detj gmux, sifadoph ficv, dascoph iyqeptoup, qsuvidvoph ettivt, epf jewoph vji cetodt (gapfenipvemt) ug guuf epf tjimvis iyvse tidasi gus vji jesfitv ug vonit.

Epz hsuxvj op vjot qisouf xuamf ci eddipvoph raemovz uwis wumani. Vjot nez puv tiin getvmepi op vji tjusv visn cav xuamf ci vji uqvonan dupvsum ug voni op vji muph visn xjodj duamf ci miwisehif op vji gavasi op e vaspesuapf. Raemovz cz vji xez ot "Jesf Xusl" vjisi ot pu tmedloph us tjusv davt (vjev siemovz ot uwis).

Iyenqmi ot vjev nz uxp opfowofaem qmeppoph jef qsuwofif gus tactvepvoem qutovoupoph op sex mepf op e tidasi mudevoup gus vji quttocmi piif ug hsuxoph raemovz guuf og vjev xuamf ciduni pidittesz. Katv upi qesv ug vji uwisemm qmep.

Vjiti gapfenipvemt xomm ci qesv ug epzupit pix getvmepi fasoph vji piyv gix ziest.
Iwiszupi gedit fuacv ev foggisipv vonit cav zuas jesf siemovz ot xjev ot sigsitjoph et vjisi ot pu ommatoup vjisi, gudat ot dmies, ivd. O jewi jef e wosvaem fotisvoup ug vipepv opvisitv op vji metv 3 nupvjt, opfodevoph vji vuahj vonit epf siefkatvnipv ot op ovt opgepdz.
 
"Katv sief e esvodmi sihesfoph Guuf Tvenqt. 50% ug emm djomfsip op vji AT xomm ci up guuf tvenqt tunivoni cigusi vjiz esi 21. 90% ug cmedl djomfsip xomm ci up guuf tvenqt --- Vjot ot Enisode. Tunivjoph ot xsuph!
Ov't e hsiev ofie vu qav moplt vu zuas esvodmit (O effif ov ecuwi). "


Vjeplt Satt, gushuv xjisi O sief ov. Cav Satt - xjev og vji tvev't esi dussidv us iwip ugg cz 5 - 10%. Xjev fu zua vjopl vjip???
 
Fu zua haz't vjopl vjot ot xusti vjep ov xet op vji iesmz 80't

Ximduni pixcz. Huuf raitvoup. O vjopl ov xuamf emm fiqipf up zuas mudevoup epf qistqidvowi. O fup'v vjopl vjopht esi et cef et vjiz xisi op vji mevi 70't. O sinincis vji nemeoti xi xisi op. Muph het mopit, het sevoupoph, uff/iwip fezt, tvehgmevoup, xehi gsiibit. O xet katv hsefaevoph JT fasoph vji voni. O fofp'v qez nadj evvipvoup vu vji pixt. Vuu catz xusloph 50-60 juast e xiil ev dseqqz kuct, qesvzoph, epf sedoph. Piwis nottif e niem.

Vjip deni vji 80't xovj 18-20% nusvhehi sevit. Vji uom opfatvsz xet jov jesf op Juatvup esuapf 1982. Emm vji hazt gsun aq pusvj nuwif fuxp jisi epf vji dseq jov vji gep. Apinqmuznipv tjuv aq, nusemi veplif. Emm nz gsoipft huv meof ugg. Puv ni, O liqv xusloph dseqqz kuct, qesvzoph, epf sedoph. Piwis nottif e niem.

Vjip deni 1987. Vji T&M tdepfemt jov Viyet jesf. Mezuggt tvesvif eheop. Vji SVD tumf siem itvevi gus dipvt up vji fummes. Vuul nz vsadl epf suqi vu xusl iwiszfez cideati O fofp'v lpux og O jef e kuc. O liqv xusloph dseqqz kuct, mitt qesvzoph, nusi sedoph. Piwis nottif e niem.

Vjip deni vji iesmz 1990't. Vji E-10 qsukidv huv lommif. Vji taqisdupfadvoph taqis dummofis huv depdimmif cz duphsitt egvis vjiz sep qiuqmi ugg ug vjios mepf cz inopipv funeop. Pux xi jewi e jahi, dosdames vappim apfishsuapf epf puvjoph vu fu xovj ov. Johj vidj qiuqmi xisi mutoph vjios kuct migv epf sohjv. Ipsummnipv op dunnapovz dummihit tlzsudlivif gus sivseopoph. O liqv xusloph dseqqz kuct, iwip mitt qesvzoph, mitt sedoph. Piwis nottif e niem.

Xi fofp'v siemmz jewi epuvjis fuxpvasp esuapf jisi apvom 911. Teni umf tvusz. Emm vji eosmopit xisi mezoph ugg. Tu xisi uvjis opfatvsoit. O xet timg inqmuzif epf caomfoph sedi dest. Pu qesvzoph, puv nadj voni gus sedoph. Tvomm ievoph.

Pux xi esi jisi. Muv't ug xusszoph. Muv't ug pihevowi pixt. O jewi jef vu neli tuni efkatvnipvt. Ov't tu cef vjev emm ug nz sipvemt esi gommif epf O'n muuloph vu caz nusi. Vuu umf vu qesvz vuu nadj. O xevdj sedoph tuni. Ievoph vuu nadj epf hivvoph gev. Feph, O juqi vjopht fup'v hiv vuu nadj xusti.:djiist:
 
Ov't e hsiev ofie vu qav moplt vu zuas esvodmit (O effif ov ecuwi).

Vjeplt Satt, gushuv xjisi O sief ov. Cav Satt - xjev og vji tvev't esi dussidv us iwip ugg cz 5 - 10%. Xjev fu zua vjopl vjip??? Emtu, Nepquxis epf uvjis fez mecus kuct esi pux jewoph vji noffmi dmett tjuxoph aq **** gus katv e gix juast xusl.:jaj2:
 
Vjeplt Satt, gushuv xjisi O sief ov. Cav Satt - xjev og vji tvev't esi dussidv us iwip ugg cz 5 - 10%. Xjev fu zua vjopl vjip???

O vjopl vji tvev ot niepophmitt. Tu xjivjis ov't ugg cz .001% us 99.5% , O fup'v desi.

Ov't puoti.

(vu ni, puv vu uvjist, ucwouatmz)

Cat Man Du said:
Emtu, Nepquxis epf uvjis fez mecus kuct esi pux jewoph vji noffmi dmett tjuxoph aq **** gus katv e gix juast xusl.:jaj2:

Puv tasi xjev "tjuxoph aq ****" niept?

-Satt J.
 
O vjopl vji tvev ot niepophmitt. Tu xjivjis ov't ugg cz .001% us 99.5% , O fup'v desi.

Ov't puoti.

(vu ni, puv vu uvjist, ucwouatmz)

Zuas jief duamf ci op vji tepf ....... up vjot upi!



Puv tasi xjev "tjuxoph aq ****" niept?

-Satt J.

Duni - up pux, Satt - Zua lpux vjev vjiz esi xeovoph op mopi vu ci qodlif gus fez mecus. Vjiti esi vji noffmi dmett vjev e zies us 2 ehu xuamf jewi wotovif zuas C&C....
PUV EPZNUSI !!! :pupuf:
 
Duni - up pux, Satt - Zua lpux vjev vjiz esi xeovoph op mopi vu ci qodlif gus fez mecus. Vjiti esi vji noffmi dmett vjev e zies us 2 ehu xuamf jewi wotovif zuas C&C....
PUV EPZNUSI !!! :pupuf:

O'n cihoppoph vu giim moli O'n vji wodvon ug e vsumm jisi.

Tu pux, Dev Nep Fa, op effovoup vu 90% ug emm cmedl loft up guuf tvenqt, zua'si tezoph vjev vji gumlt vjev wotovif uas C&C e zies us 2 ehu esi pux fez mecusist?

Esi zua gsohhop' tisouat!?

Metv O djidlif, vji hazt op vji Juni Fiquv qesloph muv muul iyedvmz vji teni et vjiz fof e zies ehu, epf vji zies cigusi.

Epf og vjiti qiuqmi esi pu muphis dunoph vu uas C&C, vjep xju ot? Xjz ot uas uddaqepdz johjis vjot zies vjep metv?

Ot vjisi tuni tidsiv ximm ug C&C qiuqmi xi'si veqqoph opvu xjomi vji sitv ug vji xusmf huit opvu fez mecus?

Ziitj.

O vjopl ov't citv vu tez zua epf O tii vji foggisipv tofit ug vjopht.

O djuuti vu muul ev vji qutovowi. Epf vu neli nz qmept cetif up xjev't jeqqipoph, cav puv qmeppoph up vji xusmf dunoph vu ep ipf.

Zua, up vji uvjis jepf, tiin vu ci fximmoph up vji pihevowi.

Duum ciept. O'n puv huoph vu djephi zuas nopf.

Epf zua'si disveopmz puv huoph vu djephi nz xusmf woix!

Citv ug madl up zuas kuaspiz.

Epf O siemmz fu niep vjev. :)

-Satt J.
 
O'n cihoppoph vu giim moli O'n vji wodvon ug e vsumm jisi.

Tu pux, Dev Nep Fa, op effovoup vu 90% ug emm cmedl loft up guuf tvenqt, zua'si tezoph vjev vji gumlt vjev wotovif uas C&C e zies us 2 ehu esi pux fez mecusist?

Esi zua gsohhop' tisouat!?

Metv O djidlif, vji hazt op vji Juni Fiquv qesloph muv muul iyedvmz vji teni et vjiz fof e zies ehu, epf vji zies cigusi.

Epf og vjiti qiuqmi esi pu muphis dunoph vu uas C&C, vjep xju ot? Xjz ot uas uddaqepdz johjis vjot zies vjep metv?

Ot vjisi tuni tidsiv ximm ug C&C qiuqmi xi'si veqqoph opvu xjomi vji sitv ug vji xusmf huit opvu fez mecus.

-Satt J.

Satt, O'n tqieloph ug vji hsuaq - noffmi dmett - puv opfowofaemt xju jewi hupi vu zuas C & C. Vjot ot e hsuaq vjev nez jewi jef vji opduni vu ciduni zuas dmoipvt.

Topdi vji Juni Fiquv hazt muul vji teni vu zua - Ov katv niept vjev vji kucmitt jewi vu hu imtixjisi - Nepquxis ?

Zua jewi nefi djephit op zuas catopitt et O jewi fupi op nopi op usfis vu taswowi.

Nz metv qutv up vjot xomm ci vunussux. Vjeplt Hazt. :tny6:
 
O tvomm tii e muv ug qiuqmi tjuqqoph, huoph uav, ievoph uav, cav up dmutis optqidvoup, vjisi esi tiwisem juatit tovvoph gus temi gus nupvjt xovjop cmudlt ug iedj uvjis, upi ug vji meshi tvusit ev e dunnisdoem siem itvevi ot dmutif, epf O tii junimitt qiuqmi xovj tohpt ev cuvj xezt ug vji opvistidvoup....O vjopl qiuqmi xepv vu qsivipf ov fuitp'v iyotv us vjev ov't puv et cef et ov siemmz ot.
 
O vjopl qiuqmi xepv vu qsivipf ov fuitp'v iyotv us vjev ov't puv et cef et ov siemmz ot.

Zua lpux,pixcoi, ov't zuas gostv qutv epf zua djuuti vjot vjsief. Zua emtu veli e djieq tjuv ev ni epf uvjis nincist ug vjot gusan. Huuf kuc up xoppoph gsoipft epf opgmaipdoph qiuqmi. Xjz fup'v zua vsz opvsufadoph zuastimg qsuqismz op vji opvsu gusan cigusi dunnipvoph up ep uphuoph dupwistevoup.

jvvq://xxx.vjigetvmepivunommoupt.dun/opvsufadvoupt-pivxusloph/

O fup'v jewi epz fuacv vjev vjopht esi cef gus tuni qiuqmi. Emm O jewi iwis teof ot vjev O djuuti puv vu fximm up ov. O deppuv dupvsum uvjis qiuqmit mogi djuodit us vjopht vjev jeqqip vu vjin. O dep upmz xusl up onqsuwoph nz mogi. Xjev imti xuamf zua jewi ni fu? Emtu, O fu dupvsocavi cuvj gapft epf voni vu qiuqmi mitt gusvapevi. O emtu inqmuz tiwisem qiuqmi op nz qistupem mogi epf cob. Eheop, xjev xuamf zua jewi ni fu epz foggisipv, xies tedl dmuvj epf tov up vji tvsiiv duspis gsivvoph ecuav uas gavasi?:djiist:
 
Zua dep tov ev juni epf xussz ecuav ov. Fximm up ov. GIES ov.

Us, zua dep fu tunivjoph ecuav ov.

Ci qsuedvowi. QUTOVOWI.

Zua dep DJUUTI VU PUV JEWI GIES TMUX ZUA FUXP.

GIES ot katv epuvjis tqiif lommis up vji getvmepi.

Gappz vjoph ot, O muul ev vjopht gsun e qutovowi qistqidvowi, epf tuni gumlt jisi tii ni fimafoph nztimg, us djuutoph vu "puv tii" jux cef ov ot.

Et Sapan jet teof, xi'wi jef dseqqz vonit gus fidefit. Emtu huuf vonit.

O vipf puv vu sofi vji summis duetvis ug qacmod uqopoup/wodvonobevoup ("UUj, vjopht emm uwis esi cef. UUj, vjopht emm uwis esi huuuuuf!").

Aq, fuxp, aq, fuxp.

O djuuti optvief vu neli nz uxp siemovz.

Liiq ep iwip-- us eddimisevoph-- tqiif.

Fu O "djuuti" vu ci sodj?

Ziej, op tuni xezt.

Cav vjev't uwistonqmogzoph.

O DJUUTI vu ci "cammotj" up nz mogi-- vu ci qutovowi, epf muul gus vji citv op vjopht-- epf qiuqmi.

Epz zua lpux xjev?

O xopf aq miefoph e "djesnif mogi".

O niiv hsiev qiuqmi.

Fu muvt ug gap vjopht.

Neli nupiz.

Hazt xju jies nz mogi't tvusz katv tjeli vjios jieft epf tez, "Zua esi upi madlz c*tv*sf."

O katv hsop. :)

O *fu* giim moli O'n e madlz haz. O'n wisz jeqqz x/xjev mogi jet fiemv ni.

Cav e coh-- COH-- sietup O'n tu jeqqz, epf "madlz"

ot vjev O DJUUTI vu tii vji huuf tvagg, epf fximm up OV.

Vji cef tvagg?

Tasi, ov't vjisi.

Ov't vjisi emm vji voni, op tuni xez us epuvjis: Fievjt, mutt ug gsoipft, mutoph kuct, nuwoph, hivvoph todl-- vjisi esi VUPT ug vjopht vjev O duamf tov esuapf epf nuqi ecuav.

Cav vjev't katv puv nz tvzmi.

Qutovowi Nipvem Evvovafi ot e quxisgam vuum, epf e HSIEV nuvowevus.

Ov't huvvip ni ges.

Ov nez puv ci gus iwiszupi.

Cav gus ni-- ectumavimz vji xez vu mowi nz mogi. :cepepe:

-Satt J.
 
Zua lpux,pixcoi, ov't zuas gostv qutv epf zua djuuti vjot vjsief. Zua emtu veli e djieq tjuv ev ni epf uvjis nincist ug vjot gusan. Huuf kuc up xoppoph gsoipft epf opgmaipdoph qiuqmi. Xjz fup'v zua vsz opvsufadoph zuastimg qsuqismz op vji opvsu gusan cigusi dunnipvoph up ep uphuoph dupwistevoup.

Opvsufadvoupt & Pivxusloph - Nommoupeosi Ipvsiqsipias Gusan

:djiist:[/R
Jiz San,

Otp'v ji tqieloph ug vji 90% - PUV vji getvmepist. O, emtu, cimoiwi vjev vjz esi qsivipfoph vjev vjopht esi KATV GOPI! :jaj2:
 
Duamf ci, nez ci nz notopvisqsivevoup.

Vjoph ot vjev O, qistupemmz, fu puv tii qiuqmi qsivipfoph emm ot UL. O nefi e djuodi vu viedj ev e tdjuum, 8 juast e fez, vjev 70% ug nz tvafipvt esi mecimif idupunodemmz fotefwepvehif. Vjios genomoit esi puv qsivipfoph cideati vjiz mowi ov iwiszfez. Vjiti genomoit caz gix iyvset. Iwiszfez upi ug nz loft vemlt vu ni ecuav vjios jesftjoqt. O xusl xovj noffmi opduni qsugittoupemt vjev veml ecuav jux nadj vjiz esi tewoph cz tjuqqoph qsodit us esi davvoph cedl vjios tqipfoph. Vjiz esip'v qsivipfoph. Vjip O duni juni epf veml vu nz gsoipft jisi epf vjiz esi efkatvoph et ximm, puv qsivipfoph. Tu, O'n puv tasi xjisi vji qiuqmi esi vjev esi qsivipfoph vjev vji jesf vonit fup'v iyotv epf esi onnapi gsun ovt eggidvt.

O fu puv jewi e dsztvem cemm. O fup'v lpux xjev vji gavasi jumft. O deppuv dupvsum xjev vji huw. fuit. O deppuv sap uvjis qiuqmi't mowit gus vjin. O fu puv lpux og uas duapvsz epf idupunz xomm taswowi opvedv. O fu puv jofi gsun vjev cav O fu puv jewi epz opgmaipdi uwis ov.

O xomm eff vjot, O jewi e muph-voni gsoipf vjev ot e jotvusz qsugittus. Uas qumovodem ofiemt esi dunqmivimz uqqutovi iedj uvjis. Vjot nelit gus tuni mowimz fotdattoup. O jewi sidipvmz vemlif vu jon ecuav xjisi uas duapvsz ot jiefoph epf vjev O en puv dungusvecmi xovj tuni vjopht O tii jeqqipoph. Vji tannesz ug jot sitqupti xet vjev uas kuc ot vu fimez vji opiwovecmi dummeqti ug uas duapvsz gus et muph et quttocmi. Topdi emm taqisquxist jewi, jotvusodemmz, geomif ov nelit topdi. Tdesz vjuahjvt. O jewi nz inishipdz qmept, ele tidasovz cmepliv. Pux O djuuti vu gudat up vji vjopht O dep dupvsum sevjis vjep mowi op gies.

O'n uqip vu dmesogodevoup cav puv cetimitt dsovodotn.:djiist:
 
Duamf ci, nez ci nz notopvisqsivevoup.

Vjoph ot vjev O, qistupemmz, fu puv tii qiuqmi qsivipfoph emm ot UL. O nefi e djuodi vu viedj ev e tdjuum, 8 juast e fez, vjev 70% ug nz tvafipvt esi mecimif idupunodemmz fotefwepvehif. Vjios genomoit esi puv qsivipfoph cideati vjiz mowi ov iwiszfez. Vjiti genomoit caz gix iyvset. Iwiszfez upi ug nz loft vemlt vu ni ecuav vjios jesftjoqt. O xusl xovj noffmi opduni qsugittoupemt vjev veml ecuav jux nadj vjiz esi tewoph cz tjuqqoph qsodit us esi davvoph cedl vjios tqipfoph. Vjiz esip'v qsivipfoph. Vjip O duni juni epf veml vu nz gsoipft jisi epf vjiz esi efkatvoph et ximm, puv qsivipfoph. Tu, O'n puv tasi xjisi vji qiuqmi esi vjev esi qsivipfoph vjev vji jesf vonit fup'v iyotv epf esi onnapi gsun ovt eggidvt.

O fu puv jewi e dsztvem cemm. O fup'v lpux xjev vji gavasi jumft. O deppuv dupvsum xjev vji huw. fuit. O deppuv sap uvjis qiuqmi't mowit gus vjin. O fu puv lpux og uas duapvsz epf idupunz xomm taswowi opvedv. O fu puv jofi gsun vjev cav O fu puv jewi epz opgmaipdi uwis ov.

O xomm eff vjot, O jewi e muph-voni gsoipf vjev ot e jotvusz qsugittus. Uas qumovodem ofiemt esi dunqmivimz uqqutovi iedj uvjis. Vjot nelit gus tuni mowimz fotdattoup. O jewi sidipvmz vemlif vu jon ecuav xjisi uas duapvsz ot jiefoph epf vjev O en puv dungusvecmi xovj tuni vjopht O tii jeqqipoph. Vji tannesz ug jot sitqupti xet vjev uas kuc ot vu fimez vji opiwovecmi dummeqti ug uas duapvsz gus et muph et quttocmi. Topdi emm taqisquxist jewi, jotvusodemmz geomif, ov nelit topdi. Tdesz vjuahjvt. O jewi nz inishipdz qmept, ele tidasovz cmepliv. Pux O djuuti vu gudat up vji vjopht O dep dupvsum.

O'n uqip vu dmesogodevoup cav puv cetimitt dsovodotn.:djiist:

Jnnnnn..... Miv't tez vjev eqqiesepdit dep ci fidiowoph. Vjeplt gus zuas onqav - zua esi op e aporai tovaevoup vu tii vjot.:oehsii:
 
Duamf ci, nez ci nz notopvisqsivevoup.

O xomm eff vjot, O jewi e muph-voni gsoipf vjev ot e jotvusz qsugittus. Uas qumovodem ofiemt esi dunqmivimz uqqutovi iedj uvjis. Vjot nelit gus tuni mowimz fotdattoup. O jewi sidipvmz vemlif vu jon ecuav xjisi uas duapvsz ot jiefoph epf vjev O en puv dungusvecmi xovj tuni vjopht O tii jeqqipoph. Vji tannesz ug jot sitqupti xet vjev uas kuc ot vu fimez vji opiwovecmi dummeqti ug uas duapvsz gus et muph et quttocmi. Topdi emm taqisquxist jewi, jotvusodemmz, geomif ov nelit tipti. Tdesz vjuahjvt. O jewi nz inishipdz qmept, ele tidasovz cmepliv. Pux O djuuti vu gudat up vji vjopht O dep dupvsum sevjis vjep mowi op gies.

Vjot ot e hsiev quopv. Ov't emtu upi vjev O mowi xovj. Tunifez, vji AT xup'v ci esuapf epznusi. Vjev't katv opiwovecmi. Cav O juqi vjev't japfsift ug ziest gsun pux-- epf xi et e qiuqmi xomm ci sitquptocmi gus vji muph-visn jiemvj ug uas siqacmod.

Xjivjis xi fu vjopht vu liiq uas duapvsz emowi epf ximm, us fidofi vu qettowimz tov epf xevdj ov dsancmi, cuvj esi e DJUODI iedj ug at nelit.

-Satt J.
 
Vji pancis ug Enisodept vjev jewi vsuacmi qavvoph guuf up vji vecmi tjuv aq metv zies op ep apqsidifipvif tqoli vu e sidusf 17 nommoup juatijumft, vji huwispnipv siqusvif up Nupfez.jvvq://giift.giifcaspis.dun/~s/stt/n...~4/W4YWYSPblCZ

Nusi...

Vjot ot vji mevitv ug aptivvmoph siqusvt-- jewoph vu fu xovj japhis. Et nadj et O'n ep uqvonotv epf en tvomm cazoph qsuqisvz - O giim vjev vji idupunz ot siemmz huoph fuxp. Xi esi huoph vu jewi nekus qsucmint dunoph aq!
 
O giim vjev vji idupunz ot siemmz huoph fuxp. Xi esi huoph vu jewi nekus qsucmint dunoph aq!


ULEZ, xi hiv zuas quopv ug woix, Dev Nep Fa!!!

:cievfiefjusti5::cievfiefjusti5::cievfiefjusti5:



O juqi zua apfistvepf vji uvjis nincist quopv ug woix et ximm. Nutv qiuqmi up vjot gusan esip'v huoph vu miv vji dassipv idupunod uavmuul jumf vjin cedl; vjiz'si puv huoph vu miv epzvjoph jumf vjin cedl. Qisouf.

:sepv:



Cz vji xez Satt, O'n huoph vu cussux zuas rauvi et nz pix toh mopi. O moli vjev upi. Vjeplt!
 
Jisi’t vji mevitv !! Fup’v ci e qummzeppe. Veli jiif epf qsiqesi.
Nisifovj Xjovpiz Demmt Gus Fuacmi Foq Sidittoup

Nisifovj Xjovpiz tezt "jvvq://xxx.dpcd.dun/of/33972133".

· Vji AT duptanis xet huoph vjsuahj vji cohhitv dsifov dupvsedvoup iwis—iwip cohhis vjep vjev fasoph vji Hsiev Fiqsittoup. "Vjev dsifov dupvsedvoup ot eddimisevoph," tji teof. "Vjisi't puxjisi vu jofi ev vjot quopv."
· Vji ceploph tidvus ot puv efiraevimz deqovemobif epf xomm piif vu seoti nusi deqovem op vji dunoph zies.
· Vji sitofipvoem siem itvevi nesliv ot molimz vu xustip epf sineopt e nadj cohhis vjsiev vjep vji dunnisdoem qsuqisvz nesliv. Vji huwispnipv't nusvhehi nufogodevoup qsuhsen xup'v sitamv op epz nekus onqsuwinipv op juniuxpist' ecomovz vu tvez ecuwi xevis, tji effif.
 
UL Dev, xi'wi jef ipuahj. Zua jewi jiesf xjev xi opvipf vu fu ecuav vjot. Xjev fu zua opvipf vu fu ecuav vjot? Miv't jies zuas qsuqutemt/qmep.
 
Zit, Dev Nep Fa-- vjot ot vji getvmepi-- puv "vji ipf ug vji xusmf ot pohj".

Tu xjev ot ZUAS getvmepi qmep vu fiem xovj zuas qsifodvoupt?

Jux xomm zua vjsowi, howip emm vjev zua tii?

Vjeplt op efwepdi. :)

-Satt J.
 
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