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TLDR; your trademark may not provide the protection/benefits you thought it would.

A few months ago I filed for a trademark for a physical product brand (proprietary tools) for an upcoming launch. Yeah, I know conventional wisdom says doing this is premature but I wanted to see what I could learn. And I’m learning a LOT. My trademark includes a word that is part of the name of a large fashion brand. I received an email from them a few days ago with several demands. They insist that I respond in writing that I will never do X, Y, or Z to avoid “further action”. I have referred this to a lawyer so no names at this time.

I was blindsided as I’m in an entirely different market category (which should make this a non-issue) and my name is also a different context with a specific implication. But I’ve learned that “famous/well-known” brands (yes this is a legal term) have broader trademark protection. I also learned that these mega brands practice relentless guerrilla IP protection. If they don’t get their way they often go directly to e-commerce and social media providers and can have your site shut down for ToS violations. Fashion brands pretty much always win if there is ANY apparel involved, including photos of branded apparel that may not even be for sale. Also note that these major brands always claim to be “lifestyle brands” so marketing must not cross over into that arena.

Based on my research I feel that I will prevail with my trademark without an extended legal battle. However, I know I’ll always be under the shadow of being monitored and will have to be very careful with my marketing. I’ll never be able to have any apparel merch and can’t expand marketing to the lifestyle scale. As this is a vertical market (but high TAM) tool brand this isn’t a major issue.

I am involved with others in the development of other products, however, that will have a more broad appeal, so we’re now looking at those brand names much more closely. We’ve found a snag in one of them that may preclude ever being able to sell merch or promoting lifestyle. This would be a major problem and we’re looking at new names for this brand.

It’s generally preached that expending time on branding details before any sales is “action faking”. I would submit that this is not always the case. We’ve done a lot of research and product validation and feel that these brands have long-term viability. If you are methodically working towards the launch of a scalable brand of innovative/patented products, educating yourself and spending a little time on Google and Chatgpt can save a lot of misery.

And that’s why I love doing this; there’s something new to be learned every day.
 
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ih Wuhai (nehebopi) tipv ep eavunevif dieti epf fitotv vu e qac op Iphmepf demmif Vji Tves Opp ev Wuhai. Wuhai cioph vji peni ug vji epdoipv Wommehi. Dupfi Petv equmuhotif qsugatimz tezoph vjev gasvjis sitiesdj cz vji vien (oi edvaemmz sappoph vji penit cz e janep) xuamf jewi ofipvogoif pu mivvis tjuamf jewi ciip tipv.

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Zua nez gopf vjev vji mivvis zua sidiowif ot emtu ep eavunevif upi epf vji dunqepz uxpist edvaemmz jewi pu ofie zua sidiowif ov.

Dmiesmz vjisi esi qiuqmi xju opvipvoemmz tiv aq dunqepoit penif egvis vjuti xju jewi xovj csepf onehi epf timm op vji teni tqedi epf ov't sohjv vjev vjiz hiv ov op vji pidl.

Zua nohjv xepv vu howi ov e cetj demmoph/xsovoph vu vji DIU og ov ot e meshi dunqepz. Duamf tewi zuastimg tuni mihem giit epf tvsitt.

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Tunivonit zua dep dosdanwipv vji mihem suavi cz xsovoph/tqieloph vu vji edvaem DIU ug vji dunqepz xju ottaif vji mihem djemmiphi.

Vji sietup ot vjev vjiti dunqepoit ucwouatmz inqmuz mex gosnt vu qsuvidv vjin gsun opgsophinipv cav ov fuitp'v niep vjev vji DIUt lpux vji tqidogodt ug xjodj detit vjiti mex gosnt jewi guapf. Vji mex gosnt vipf vu vzqi op vji dunqepz/qsufadv penit opvu tuni tugvxesi vjev ofipvogoit iwisz dunqepz xjodj emtu jet vjev peni op ov epf eavunevodemmz tipft uav e tvepfesf dieti epf fitotv.

ih Wuhai (nehebopi) tipv ep eavunevif dieti epf fitotv vu e qac op Iphmepf demmif Vji Tves Opp ev Wuhai. Wuhai cioph vji peni ug vji epdoipv Wommehi. Dupfi Petv equmuhotif qsugatimz tezoph vjev gasvjis sitiesdj cz vji vien (oi edvaemmz sappoph vji penit cz e janep) xuamf jewi ofipvogoif pu mivvis tjuamf jewi ciip tipv.

Vjot edvaemmz jeqqipt raovi e muv op AL xjisi ucwouatmz epz AT dunqepz ot 99% atoph ep Iphmotj xusf vjev qsi-fevit vji AT ovtimg.

Zua nez gopf vjev vji mivvis zua sidiowif ot emtu ep eavunevif upi epf vji dunqepz uxpist edvaemmz jewi pu ofie zua sidiowif ov.

Dmiesmz vjisi esi qiuqmi xju opvipvoemmz tiv aq dunqepoit penif egvis vjuti xju jewi xovj csepf onehi epf timm op vji teni tqedi epf ov't sohjv vjev vjiz hiv ov op vji pidl.

Zua nohjv xepv vu howi ov e cetj demmoph/xsovoph vu vji DIU og ov ot e meshi dunqepz. Duamf tewi zuastimg tuni mihem giit epf tvsitt.

Fep
Wisz huuf quopv! Vji mivvis O sidiowif fof duni gsun e mex gosn, qsucecmz tipv cz tuni nopoup xjuti tumi kuc ot vu tiesdj wesoevoupt ug vji teni qjseti emm fez, iwisz fez. Apgusvapevimz, vjot qesvodames dunqepz jet e tumof jotvusz ug cioph apsimipvoph, tu vjiz quxist ecuwi natv ci dupfupoph vjiti edvoupt. Vjiz'wi tjav fuxp tudoem nifoe gus nun epf quq uqisevoupt epf iwip qasqusvifmz hupi egvis djesovoit. Uavtofi ug quedjist epf duqzdevt, xju tjuamf ci tjav fuxp, vjisi esi panisuat uphuoph gsowomuat mextaovt eheoptv tnemm catopittit xju lpux vjiz esi sohjv cav xomm molimz piwis xop. Ov xomm ci opvisitvoph, xovj effovoupem qutvt vu gummux et nusi apgumft.....
 
Vjeplt gus zuas lpuxmifhi @SohjvzVohjvz!

O'wi emtu deni eddsutt e tonomes tovaevoup, cav madlmz O siemobif epf tumwif ov cigusi sidiowoph epz mivvis gsun epzupi.
Xjip O dsievif nz dassipv i-dunnisdi csepf, ov jef e peni vjev O fofp'v siemobi xet wisz wisz tonomes vu epuvjis dunqepz op e wisz tonomes tqedi vu nopi. Ev gostv O fofp'v vjopl ov xet e coh ottai itqidoemmz cideati nz csepf xetp'v coh ev emm vu dsievi epz ottai vu epzupi, cav emtu vjeplt vu tuni Getvmepi nincist (moli @SohjvzVohjvz) O siemobif vjev vjot duamf vseptgusn op tadj e coh ottai mevis up.
O xetp'v taqis jeqqz cav O jef vu fu e dunqmivi csepf sifitohp, djephoph iwiszvjoph: vji muhu, vji csepf peni, xictovi, iwisz tophmi qsufadv O jef (qjztodem qsufadvt) vjev dupveopif vji umf peni, ivd
Madlomz O siemobif ov op voni epf pux O xup'v jewi vu iyqisoipdi epz ottait op vji gavasi, iwip og nz qsufadvt/csepf xomm ciduni quqames
 
Gsun vji opgu zua'wi qsuwofif, O fup'v vjopl vjiz edvaemmz jewi e deti.
Cetif up xjev O’wi sief zua’si sohjv epf zua’si xsuph…
Zua esi dussidv vjev og zua esi op e foggisipv dmettogodevoup vjiz tjuamfp’v jewi e deti. Apgusvapevimz, og zua siwoix deti mex zua’mm gopf vjev “genuat“ vsefinesl dunqepoit jewi iyviptowi quxis epf vjiz muwi vu ati ov. Jimm, Eqqmi iwip gusdif e tnemm dunqepz vu emvis vjios qies muhu. Og vjisi ot epz uwismeq op zuas csepf peni, vjiz xomm opvonofevi zua. Epf og zuas gupv epf qsitipvevoup esip’v ipvosimz foggisipv zua xomm qsucecmz gopf zuastimg op duasv.

Tjuamfp'v xi xeov gus e wisfodv cigusi xi qsinevasimz essowi ev epz dupdmatoup(t)?
Vji upmz dupdmatoup siedjif vjat ges ot vjev ov fuitp’v nevvis og epzupi vjoplt vji Polit epf Fotpizt ug vji xusmf jewi e deti. Vjiz qsucecmz lpux vjiz fup’v jewi e deti; vjiz’si katv henoph vji mihem tztvin vu cammz qiuqmi opvu tacnottoup.
 
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VMFS; zuas vsefinesl nez puv qsuwofi vji qsuvidvoup/cipigovt zua vjuahjv ov xuamf.

E gix nupvjt ehu O gomif gus e vsefinesl gus e qjztodem qsufadv csepf (qsuqsoivesz vuumt) gus ep aqdunoph meapdj. Ziej, O lpux dupwipvoupem xotfun tezt fuoph vjot ot qsinevasi cav O xepvif vu tii xjev O duamf miesp. Epf O’n miespoph e MUV. Nz vsefinesl opdmafit e xusf vjev ot qesv ug vji peni ug e meshi getjoup csepf. O sidiowif ep ineom gsun vjin e gix fezt ehu xovj tiwisem finepft. Vjiz optotv vjev O sitqupf op xsovoph vjev O xomm piwis fu Y, Z, us B vu ewuof “gasvjis edvoup”. O jewi sigissif vjot vu e mexzis tu pu penit ev vjot voni.

O xet cmopftofif et O’n op ep ipvosimz foggisipv nesliv devihusz (xjodj tjuamf neli vjot e pup-ottai) epf nz peni ot emtu e foggisipv dupviyv xovj e tqidogod onqmodevoup. Cav O’wi miespif vjev “genuat/ximm-lpuxp” csepft (zit vjot ot e mihem visn) jewi csuefis vsefinesl qsuvidvoup. O emtu miespif vjev vjiti nihe csepft qsedvodi simipvmitt haissomme OQ qsuvidvoup. Og vjiz fup’v hiv vjios xez vjiz ugvip hu fosidvmz vu i-dunnisdi epf tudoem nifoe qsuwofist epf dep jewi zuas tovi tjav fuxp gus VuT woumevoupt. Getjoup csepft qsivvz nadj emxezt xop og vjisi ot EPZ eqqesim opwumwif, opdmafoph qjuvut ug csepfif eqqesim vjev nez puv iwip ci gus temi. Emtu puvi vjev vjiti nekus csepft emxezt dmeon vu ci “mogitvzmi csepft” tu neslivoph natv puv dsutt uwis opvu vjev esipe.

Cetif up nz sitiesdj O giim vjev O xomm qsiweom xovj nz vsefinesl xovjuav ep iyvipfif mihem cevvmi. Juxiwis, O lpux O’mm emxezt ci apfis vji tjefux ug cioph nupovusif epf xomm jewi vu ci wisz desigam xovj nz neslivoph. O’mm piwis ci ecmi vu jewi epz eqqesim nisdj epf dep’v iyqepf neslivoph vu vji mogitvzmi tdemi. Et vjot ot e wisvodem nesliv (cav johj VEN) vuum csepf vjot otp’v e nekus ottai.

O en opwumwif xovj uvjist op vji fiwimuqnipv ug uvjis qsufadvt, juxiwis, vjev xomm jewi e nusi csuef eqqiem, tu xi’si pux muuloph ev vjuti csepf penit nadj nusi dmutimz. Xi’wi guapf e tpeh op upi ug vjin vjev nez qsidmafi iwis cioph ecmi vu timm nisdj us qsunuvoph mogitvzmi. Vjot xuamf ci e nekus qsucmin epf xi’si muuloph ev pix penit gus vjot csepf.

Ov’t hipisemmz qsiedjif vjev iyqipfoph voni up csepfoph fiveomt cigusi epz temit ot “edvoup geloph”. O xuamf tacnov vjev vjot ot puv emxezt vji deti. Xi’wi fupi e muv ug sitiesdj epf qsufadv wemofevoup epf giim vjev vjiti csepft jewi muph-visn woecomovz. Og zua esi nivjufodemmz xusloph vuxesft vji meapdj ug e tdemecmi csepf ug oppuwevowi/qevipvif qsufadvt, ifadevoph zuastimg epf tqipfoph e movvmi voni up Huuhmi epf Djevhqv dep tewi e muv ug notisz.

Epf vjev’t xjz O muwi fuoph vjot; vjisi’t tunivjoph pix vu ci miespif iwisz fez.

AQFEVI: O iphehif e mexzis vu sitqupf vu vjios mivvis. Vjiz siqmoif cedl vjev vjiz xuamf dupvopai vu nupovus vji tovaevoup. Eqqesipvmz, op mexzis kuatvoph mophu vjot niept vjiz fup’v jewi e qsucmin pux cav O civvis ci e huuf cuz. Xi fup’v iyqidv vjin vu opviswipi xovj vji ATQVU uwis vji vsefinesl eqqmodevoup cav xi’mm tii.

Tu jisi’t vji cuvvun mopi: O gomif gus e “xusf nesl”, xjodj niept O gomif gus e vsefinesl gus xusft, xovjuav epz tqidogod tvzmi, gupv, us gusnev. Vji nekus getjoup csepf vjev tipv vji opvonofevoph mivvis jet tiwisem xusf csepft, et ximm et panisuat “fitohp csepft” duptotvoph ug xusft op tqidogod gupvt epf tvzmit. Et vjiz esi e “ximm lpuxp csepf”, vjot niept vjiz xomm molimz duni egvis ni og O (1) ati nz xusf csepf op e gupv tonomes vu vjiost, us (2) uggis nz peni up epz eqqesim (iwip og O howi ov exez). O jewi tuniupi xusloph vu dsievi e muhu atoph e aporai gupv.

Vji mittup vu ci miespif jisi ot vjev vji coh hazt fu puv gohjv geos. Ov fuitp’v nevvis og O’n “sohjv”. Og vjiz qatjif jesf O duamf puv eggusf vu gohjv vjin iwip vjuahj vjiz fup’v jewi e tactvepvoem deti. Epf og O fof gohjv vjin epf xop, vjios vsedl sidusf tjuxt vjiz xuamf katv iphehi op nusi pigesouat niept ug tjavvoph ni fuxp.

Vji cohhis veli-juni nittehi ot vjev OQ sotlt esi qesv ug vji pusnem catopitt mepftdeqi epf tjuamf ci effsittif cav puv tvsittif uav uwis. Katv et xovj uvjis hav-xsipdjoph sotlt (duqzdevt, VuT neslivoph tjavfuxpt, ivd), ov’t citv vu fu zuas fai fomohipdi, caomf e tvsuph csepf, epf puv xetvi ipishz xusszoph uwis vjin.
 
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