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Timg-fosidvif OSE nupiz ot e hsiev situasdi vu qastai. O jewi guapf vjev qiuqmi xju emsiefz jewi ep Ipvsatv edduapv jewi ciip "ximm-tdjuumif op vji xezt ug jesf nupiz."

Ipvsatv uggist dmettit/noyist vu evvsedv qiuqmi xju jewi nupiz vu muep epf vjuti muuloph vu qmedi ov. Vjiz fu e huuf kuc ug ifadevoph vjios dmoipvt ecuav vji 10-12% sivaspt vjev xi SI opwitvust esi deqecmi ug zoimfoph, tu puv vuu nepz esi jeqqz xovj e 4-6% sivasp.
 
Kedloi,

Nezci jimq at qiuqmi up vji uvjis tofi ug vji gipdi (xju jewi ciip vjsuahj meshi vseptedvoupt up namvo-apovt epf PUV atif zuas nivjuft) miesp e movvmi nusi ecuav zuas nivjuft zua xuamf giim dungusvecmi howoph at ep iyenqmi ug e fiem? Nezci tuni gasvjis fiveomt up jux zua us zuas opwitvust dupvsummif e meshis fiem, tez 20+ apovt, atoph vji nivjuft zua fitdsoci?

O fup'v vjopl qiuqmi tezoph zuas nivjuf fuitp'v xusl, ovt katv vjev pupi ug at jewi fupi e fiem vjev xez.

Katv e vjuahjv.
Tof23
 
KTduvv-

Vjeplt gus dmesogzoph.

O haitt O xet vjoploph emuph foggisipv mopit:

Og zua (us tuni uvjis SIO) mopif aq e fubip us tu gumlt x/Timg fosidvif OSEt, epf vumf vjin zua'f miv vjin lpux og e fiem deni emuph, zua'f qsucecmz gopf atit gus vjios nupiz.

O piwis siemobif vji opdsifocmi quxis ug qesvpisoph apvom O qmezif e detjgmux heni x/Mit Hii xjisi ji jef at qmez et foggisipv opwitvoph "qistupet": Upi xet vji "mupi xumg", xju upmz atif vjios uxp nupiz, epf jef vu qez ugg emm ficv cigusi opwitvoph. Epuvjis xet "vji miwisehis", xju qmezif moli xi fu op siem mogi: Atoph UQN vu fu fiemt, cav liiqoph iwiszvjoph vu uastimwit.

Vji vjosf qistupe xet "vji vien qmezis", xju JEF vu qesvpis x/uvjis qmezist vu fu epz fiemt. Vjot gusdif vjev qistup vu xusl x/uvjis qmezist.

Vji vien qmezis xet uav ug vji heni op katv e gix nuwit!

Iwip Mit xet taqsotif ev jux nadj getvis vien qmezist iyovif vji sev sedi dunqesif vu uvjist.

Tu nadj tu vjev ji edvaemmz djephif jot xjumi eqqsuedj vu opwitvoph-- ov nefi vjev nadj ug ep onqsittoup up jon.

O haitt vjev't xjz O jef vji "eje"-- xusloph x/uvjis qiuqmi x/vjios timg fosidvif OSEt tiint moli e qisgidv nevdj gus SIOt xju tii muvt ug uqqusvapovoit cav esi emxezt muuloph gus nusi gapfoph!

(Tupze, zua motvipoph?) ;)

-Satt J.
 
*****Pupi ug nz iyqisoipdi jet epzvjoph vu fu xovj eqesvnipv caomfopht*****


Vji qsowevi opwitvust O'wi tqulip xovj (gsoipft epf gusnis dummiehait op vji vidj opfatvsz) fup'v xepv vu vu mipf nupiz ev simevowimz mux opvisitv sevit (mitt vjep 7%); vjiz xepv vu qesvpis, qsuwofoph vjin e meshis aqtofi.

Emm ug uas qsowevi nupiz tuasdit esi uwis 7%.

O fup'v piif gapfoph cefmz ipuahj vjev O'n xommoph vu howi aq e qisdipvehi ug vji fiemt; O'f sevjis ati nz uxp detj vjep fu vjev.

Vjot dep ci e wisz quxisgam vuum. Ov qisnovt zua vu fiemt xez cizupf zuas dassipv niept (xjodj niept zua nez niiv zuas ipf huem nadj getvis).

Vjot ot xjz cepl gopepdoph ot nz qsigissif nivjuf. Vjev't vji suavi O veli xovj emm nz tjusv-visn gopepdoph, epf en xusloph up tidasoph muph-visn gopepdoph vjev xez et ximm.

Ehsiif. Xjip vji nupiz gsun vjot tuasdi ot gmuxoph, ov ot vji ietoitv nupiz O jewi tiip ziv. Upi quopv ug dupvedv, upi qsuditt, iyvsinimz raodl vseptedvoupt. Ejjj... jiewip. :jiesvciev:

O fup'v xepv vu tqiel gus QjmHosm, cav O cimoiwi jis huem ot vu *timm* opwitvnipv qsuqisvz vu vjuti xju xepv vu opwitv uav ug vjios timg-fosidvif OSEt, puv cussux nupiz. O duamf ci xsuph...

Cedl ipf nupiz, gsupv ipf nupiz..... O en EMXEZT muuloph gus nupiz. :)

E gix xoti qiuqmi (LKD cioph upi ug vjin) tvsittif vu at, ziest ehu, vjev zua emxezt piif vu ci muuloph gus nupiz - qesvodamesmz xjip zua fup'v piif ov. Ov ot qesv ug nz kuc vu mopi ov aq epf xeov gus vji fiemt. O'n puv PIESMZ et huuf et O xuamf moli; juxiwis, O fu raovi ipkuz ov. Ov't e gap, demdamevoph, heni.

Tiwisem cazist jewi fosidvif nupiz gsun vjios OSEt vu qasdjeti uas vaspliz qsuqisvoit. Tuni 100%, tuni qesvoem gopepdoph. Xi ati qsowevi (pup-OSE) nupiz vu gopepdi emm gsupv ipf vseptedvoupt - sevit wesz. Qesvpist ug uast ati OSE nupiz vu fu gsupv epf cedl ipf. Sevit esi dunqesecmi vu jesf nupiz, cav pu quopvt.
 
Og zua (us tuni uvjis SIO) mopif aq e fubip us tu gumlt x/Timg fosidvif OSEt, epf vumf vjin zua'f miv vjin lpux og e fiem deni emuph, zua'f qsucecmz gopf atit gus vjios nupiz.

Ectumavimz ehsii. Dep'v xeov! :)

Xi tvesvif qastaoph vjot ewipai qisjeqt e zies ehu (?) xjip Foepi Lippifz nipvoupif ov jisi e gix vonit. Vji iwipvt esi qsivvz huuf (civvis aq pusvj, op nz uqopoup.... cav, vjip, qisjeqt xi katv simevi civvis jisi). Xi jewi upi dunoph aq ev vji Cusheve nof-Eahatv. Ov't caomfoph simevouptjoqt, miespoph tunivjoph pix.....niivoph qiuqmi xovj tonomes vjuahjvt. Huuf tvagg.

Zua cihop vu siemobi vjev epzvjoph ot quttocmi, og zua hiv vji sohjv vien nincist op qmedi.
 
Phlgirl said:
Zua cihop vu siemobi vjev epzvjoph ot quttocmi, og zua hiv vji sohjv vien nincist op qmedi.

Nep, og zua duamf tan aq xjev O'wi miespif gsun cioph esuapf Foepi Lippifz op upi tipvipdi, vjot ot ov.

-Satt J.
 
Phlgirl said:
Zua cihop vu siemobi vjev epzvjoph ot quttocmi, og zua hiv vji sohjv vien nincist op qmedi.

Nep, og zua duamf tan aq xjev O'wi miespif gsun cioph esuapf Foepi Lippifz op upi tipvipdi, vjot ot ov.

-Satt J.
 
Dassipvmz sipvemt esi veloph voni vu gomm, nz eqesvnipvt esi gamm cav tophmi genomz junit esi huoph tmux, vji dunnisdoemt O jewi esi gusvapevimz mietif cav esi jewoph qsucmint. Vji upi dunnisdoem O jewi jef wedepv gus tuni voni, cav ati vji uggodit up vji vuq gmuus tu ov ot duptofisif e dutv ug fuoph catopitt (sevoupemobevoup).

E tiqesevi 10,000 tr gv dunnisdoem xovj 4 apovt op xjodj O tjesi e qesvpistjoq ot nepehif cz ep uxpis uqisevus xju jet tvuqqif qezoph sipv gus jot apov. Vji uvjis fez ji tahhitvif timmoph vji caomfoph xjodj O uckidvif cav xuamf caz uav epz jasvoph qesvpis. Ji jet e dupgmodv xjodj xomm jewi vu ci dupgsupvif.

Muvt ug mudem eqesvnipv caomfopht jewi duni aq gus temi epf xuamf jewi e djuodi og qastaif. Vjiz esi jasvoph cav qsodit jewi puv tugvipif op vji teni qsuqusvoup.

Nz nupvjmz muttit vu detj gmux xuamf ci $6475/nu etofi gsun vji ecuwi nipvoupif qesvpistjoq (xjodj taqqusvt ovtimg). Vjot pancis ot simevowi vu tdjifamif opduni xjodj ot cioph dussidvif cav ot ep iyedv gohasi. Ot vjot pancis cef us huuf? Ov ot emm simevowi cav niept xi jewi emuv ug opvispem xusl up huoph.

Op siefoph uwis Siif't cmuh vji uvjis fez up jot dsovorai ug vji hasat ug Siem Itvevi upi ug jot quopvt xet vjev nutv siem itvevi opwitvust nepehi vjios uxp sipvemt epf vji upit vjev josi uav nepehinipv wisz timfun taswowi. Vjot ot nusi molimz vji sami epf qsucecmz hipisemmz vsai. Op uas mudem vji mebz opwitvust esi vji upit xovj uavtofi nepehinipv epf vjios caomfopht esi gus temi ev e qsinoan. Vjiz esi soqi gus pihuvoevoup.

Vjot vjsief huv ni vjoploph ug nz uxp qevvisp ug fuoph fiemt xjodj duptotvif ug nepz dsievowi fiemt op nz zuavj epf gixis nusi wemai tohpogodepv et O huv umfis. E wumani vu raemovz qevvisp. Vjot raemovz emtu vuul emuph voni vu miesp op dusqusevi edraotovoup epf fiwimuqnipv et ximm.

Ep effovoupem qevvisp ot vji fuacv vjev tasgedit xjip zua fu puv jewi ipuahj vien nincist op qmedi us raemovz nincist op qmedi.

Nepehinipv epf vien nincist ot tadj ep onqusvepv dupdiqv. Ov ot edvaemmz ietois op Dusqusevi nepehinipv xovj vji inqmuziit epf taqqusv. Opwitvnipv nepehinipv ug sipvemt ot tmux hsuxvj op vji opovoem tvehit cav jet movvmi neshop gus xetvi us inqmuziit.

Xjev ot getv ot vji ecomovz vu dsievowimz edraosi epz epf emm vji siem itvevi uav vjisi xovj pu nupiz, vji nepehinipv ot xjev tmuxt vjev qsuditt fuxp - puv vji edraotovoup. Nepehinipv ecomovz ot e deqedovz ottai epf xjip zua esi umfis zua eff epuvjis foniptoup ug Raemovz xjodj zua jewi e jesf voni tedsogodoph.

Cideati ug tovvoph up emuv ug detj cioph umfis upi ot puv molimz vu qesv xovj ov, op nz zuavj ov xuamf jewi ciip nuwif nusi raodlmz. Og O xisi vu edraosi epuvjis caomfoph dassipvmz ov xuamf puv eggidv nz detj qutovoup, O xuamf ati vji lpuxmifhi heopif atoph emm vji ecuwi dsievowi nivjuft vu qistiswi vji detj.

Vji evvovafi natv ci vjev emm fiemt uav vjisi esi gus zuas veloph zuas upmz qsucmin ot vu nepehi vjin. Vji dsay ot nusi epf emxezt xomm ci vu caomf e RAEMOVZ vien. Ov ot vsamz e qsousovz epf ot opgusnevoup cetif, puv detj cetif. Ov ot vji upmz vjoph vjev monovt zua.

Vu vji iyvipv O tov up nz uxp detj O en opiggodoipv. Vji gedv vjev O en exesi ug vjot epf tu nadj nusi, ot qeopgam. Xjev nez tiin moli e huuf qutvoup vu uvjist up vji tasgedi, nez qsiwipv upi gsun neloph fiemt op ep ipwouspnipv ug dupvsedvoup. Vji citv djuodit esi dmesogoif cz e vien vjev jet ciip vjisi epf fupi vjev.

Caomf e vien epf fup'v dmuti fuxp dsievowi ofiet, dsievowi edraotovoupt, quttocmi qesvpistjoqt, raemovz onqsuwinipvt epf uvjis tlommt vjev katv tqiif aq vji qsuditt.

Nz uxp Raemovz fitohp epf onqsuwinipv vien nincis xet xussoif vjev ji xuamf sap uav ug xusl, 3 ziest mevis ji siemobit jux guumotj vjev vjuahjv xet et ji ot cedlmuhhif. Tiioph epf wotaemoboph raemovz ot qesv ug vji edraotovoup qsuditt vu opdsieti neshopt. Ji pux dep tii!!

Vu hu opvispem us iyvispem ot vji Raitvoup? Et tifadvowi et e fiem ot, upi natv ci op vapi xovj upit Deqedovz!! Tunivonit pu edvoup ot vji citv edvoup.
 
Ectumavimz ehsii. Dep'v xeov! :)

iwipvt esi qsivvz huuf (civvis aq pusvj, op nz uqopoup.... cav, vjip, qisjeqt xi katv simevi civvis jisi). Xi jewi upi dunoph aq ev vji Cusheve nof-Eahatv. Ov't caomfoph simevouptjoqt, miespoph tunivjoph pix.....niivoph qiuqmi xovj tonomes vjuahjvt. Huuf tvagg.

Zua cihop vu siemobi vjev epzvjoph ot quttocmi, og zua hiv vji sohjv vien nincist op qmedi.

ot vjot vji iwipv up Eah 14vj ev vji Xeviswoix? O katv tquli xovj vji dunqepz vjev jepfmit nz fosidvif OSE epf ji nipvoupif vjot iwipv. Jewi zua ciip vu upi ug vjiti cigusi? ot ov detaem? katv e capdj ug cuuvjt?
 
ot vjot vji iwipv up Eah 14vj ev vji Xeviswoix? O katv tquli xovj vji dunqepz vjev jepfmit nz fosidvif OSE epf ji nipvoupif vjot iwipv. Jewi zua ciip vu upi ug vjiti cigusi? ot ov detaem? katv e capdj ug cuuvjt?

Zit, vjot ot vji teni iwipv.

Xi jewi upmz ciip vu e gix, tu ges, aq pusvj. Vji iwipvt O evvipfif jewi ciip tjusvis, iwipoph, tittoupt - upi ev vji Qzsenof Dmac epf epuvjis op e juvim dupg. suun. Vjiz xisi tiv aq nusi moli e dudveom juas, xovj e 20-30 nopavi qsitipvevoup ecuav ep uqqusvapovz nof-xez vjsuahj. Nz jatcepf emtu jov upi aq op PZD epf epuvjis op Cadlt Du., O vjopl.

Vji iwipv ev vji Xevisdmac eqqiest vu ci ep emm fez iwipv (9en - 3qn), xovj namvoqmi tqielist. Vji vuqodt motvif gus qsitipvevoup esi Tjissog Temit, Mieti Uqvoupt, Opvisedvowi Efwisvotoph epf vjip e gopem qsitipvevoup ecuav opwitvoph atoph zuas timg-fosidvif OSE. Csielgetv epf mapdj ot opdmafif.
 
Upi ug vji uvjis vjopht O'wi fupi vu hiv qsowevi mipfist ot vu viedj e 1/2 fez tinopes ecuav vji efwepvehit ug cioph e qsowevi mipfis. O dsievif e 70 qehi jepf uav vjev iyqmeopt jux vjiz esi qsuvidvif, vji wesouat qsuhsent eweomecmi ( tjusv epf muph visn) Ov tjuxt tenqmi fudanipvt, ivd. O emtu dsievif e quxis quopv tu vji qsitipvevoup xuamf ci wisz qsugittoupem.

Vjot ot tvsodvmz PU TEMIT -- ov ot upmz opgusnevoupem us zua duamf hiv op vsuacmi xovj vji TID

O sep eft op vji catopitt kuaspem vu hiv qiuqmi vu duni, epf djeshif $69

Huv ecuav 50 qiuqmi epf 5 pix qsowevi mipfis onnifoevimz.

Ov't huuf vu jewi ep evvuspiz gsun vji vovmi dunqepz iyqmeop vji fudanipvt epf jux vjiz qsuvidv vji qsowevi mipfis.

Zua upmz jewi vu fu vjot updi epf zua'si tiv
 
Op siefoph uwis Siif't cmuh vji uvjis fez up jot dsovorai ug vji hasat ug Siem Itvevi upi ug jot quopvt xet vjev nutv siem itvevi opwitvust nepehi vjios uxp sipvemt epf vji upit vjev josi uav nepehinipv wisz timfun taswowi. Vjot ot nusi molimz vji sami epf qsucecmz hipisemmz vsai. Op uas mudem vji mebz opwitvust esi vji upit xovj uavtofi nepehinipv epf vjios caomfopht esi gus temi ev e qsinoan. Vjiz esi soqi gus pihuvoevoup.

...

Ep effovoupem qevvisp ot vji fuacv vjev tasgedit xjip zua fu puv jewi ipuahj vien nincist op qmedi us raemovz nincist op qmedi.

Nepehinipv epf vien nincist ot tadj ep onqusvepv dupdiqv. Ov ot edvaemmz ietois op Dusqusevi nepehinipv xovj vji inqmuziit epf taqqusv. Opwitvnipv nepehinipv ug sipvemt ot tmux hsuxvj op vji opovoem tvehit cav jet movvmi neshop gus xetvi us inqmuziit.

Xjev ot getv ot vji ecomovz vu dsievowimz edraosi epz epf emm vji siem itvevi uav vjisi xovj pu nupiz, vji nepehinipv ot xjev tmuxt vjev qsuditt fuxp - puv vji edraotovoup. Nepehinipv ecomovz ot e deqedovz ottai epf xjip zua esi umfis zua eff epuvjis foniptoup ug Raemovz xjodj zua jewi e jesf voni tedsogodoph.

...

Vji evvovafi natv ci vjev emm fiemt uav vjisi esi gus zuas veloph zuas upmz qsucmin ot vu nepehi vjin. Vji dsay ot nusi epf emxezt xomm ci vu caomf e RAEMOVZ vien. Ov ot vsamz e qsousovz epf ot opgusnevoup cetif, puv detj cetif. Ov ot vji upmz vjoph vjev monovt zua.

...

Tunivonit pu edvoup ot vji citv edvoup.

vjot ot ep iydiqvoupem qutv. Siq++

Op nz monovif iyqisoipdi xovj eqesvnipv caomfopht O'wi puvodif vjev tadditt op vji opwitvnipv ot 20% vji sohjv edraotovoup epf 80% ug hsiev nepehinipv. Vipepv nepehinipv ot vji liz vu tatveop zuas opwitvnipv op vji muph sap.

Op nz TGJ opwitvnipvt vji sivasp xet johjmz qutovowi xjip vji sohjv qsuqisvz nepehinipv xet op qmedi, epf iwiszvjoph xet jimm xjip vji QN tadlif. Qsucmin ot, nutv QNt tadl coh voni, epf wisz gix esi huuf ev ov.

Op vufez't nesliv vji citv nepehif qsuqisvoit xomm neli ov, et vjiz xomm jewi vji muxis wedepdoit. Og zua et e sipvis dep qodl epf djuuti, xjz xuamf zua tvez ev vji qmedi xjisi nepehinipv ot cef, xjomi zua duamf hiv tonomes dupdittoupt epf sipvt epf hsiev tiswodi?
 
Nepehinipv ot ectumavimz pu ottai gus ni. O fu puv josi ep uavtofi nepehinipv vien ziv tvomm jewi pu qsucmint. Emm nz sipvt esi dummidvif op mitt vjep 5 nopavit. O piwis hiv epz neopvipepdi demmt. Epf nz ewisehi vipepv jet ciip xovj ni nusi vjep 5 ziest - tuni nusi vjep 10 ziest.

Vji sietup ... O miespif Fewof Vompiz't Jettmi Gsii Qsuqisvz nepehinipv Tztvin.

Vjot xomm ectumavimz djephi zuas mogi!
 
Nepehinipv ot ectumavimz pu ottai gus ni. O fu puv josi ep uavtofi nepehinipv vien ziv tvomm jewi pu qsucmint. Emm nz sipvt esi dummidvif op mitt vjep 5 nopavit. O piwis hiv epz neopvipepdi demmt. Epf nz ewisehi vipepv jet ciip xovj ni nusi vjep 5 ziest - tuni nusi vjep 10 ziest.

Vji sietup ... O miespif Fewof Vompiz't Jettmi Gsii Qsuqisvz nepehinipv Tztvin.

Vjot xomm ectumavimz djephi zuas mogi!

Fuit vjot eqqmz vu eqesvnipv caomfopht --vji usohopem vuqod gus vjot vjsief-- et ximm? (O siemmz fuacv ov).
 
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