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Hi:

Problem: We often have new people who join in once and then never again. We also have people in motion who join once, realize they don't get any value out of it, then never come back. I think these people are "tourists", trying to see what it's really about before committing to it.

This causes two issues. First: it's a waste of our call time. Second: we reveal sometimes sensitive details about our businesses in the call and in the private PM group, and even if there is no real risk, we don't always want to share them in the presence of strangers.

We also have people who haven't outlined their goals for the year, so they go around in circles not really making any progress.

Solution: A mandatory introductory call, done in batches as they're requested, with at least one existing member, to establish goals for which they will be held accountable. We can do this call once a week, once a month, or however often it's necessary. Once they've done the call, they will be added to our private PM group on the forum.

Why this is a solution: They have to commit time in advance to join the group, meaning they have a bit more skin in the game. By not going over the introductory info (who are you, what's your business, why are you here, bla bla bla) we don't waste on-call time.

How to implement: We will need to set up a call time. Sat at 1pm, an hour before the calls usually are, sounds fine to me. We will need at least one person to be on these calls. I'm willing to do that but I also volunteer @Subsonic for it. Once we've set an initial time for the calls, we will need to set a cadence based on how many people request to join. People can simply request to join on this thread.

Feedback is welcome.
 
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Hi:

Problem: We often have new people who join in once and then never again. We also have people in motion who join once, realize they don't get any value out of it, then never come back. I think these people are "tourists", trying to see what it's really about before committing to it.

This causes two issues. First: it's a waste of our call time. Second: we reveal sometimes sensitive details about our businesses in the call and in the private PM group, and even if there is no real risk, we don't always want to share them in the presence of strangers.

We also have people who haven't outlined their goals for the year, so they go around in circles not really making any progress.

Solution: A mandatory introductory call, done in batches as they're requested, with at least one existing member, to establish goals for which they will be held accountable. We can do this call once a week, once a month, or however often it's necessary. Once they've done the call, they will be added to our private PM group on the forum.

Why this is a solution: They have to commit time in advance to join the group, meaning they have a bit more skin in the game. By not going over the introductory info (who are you, what's your business, why are you here, bla bla bla) we don't waste on-call time.

How to implement: We will need to set up a call time. Sat at 1pm, an hour before the calls usually are, sounds fine to me. We will need at least one person to be on these calls. I'm willing to do that but I also volunteer @Subsonic for it. Once we've set an initial time for the calls, we will need to set a cadence based on how many people request to join. People can simply request to join on this thread.

Feedback is welcome.
I'm new to the group, but I like the proposal. I always prefer groups where each person has skin in the game and commitment is required. I will be out of town and unavailable for calls both of the coming Saturdays, but I would like to be a regular presence in an accountability group.
 
Gopemmz xi jewi vji piyv iwumavoup! Gostv tviq xet vu hiv tuni ug zua niivoph up e sihames cetot epf cioph duptotvipv xovj fotdattoph xjev zua huv fupi / xuamf fu piyv. Piyv tviq ot xjev @Vji-K ot tezoph, vjuti vjev tjux aq cihop vu tii jux vji uvjist vjev fup'v tjux xetvi vjios voni.

Epzvjoph op mogi ot ecuav xjev zua qav opvu ov. Et vjuti duptotvipvmz up vji demm cihop vu jumf vjintimwit edduapvecmi, vjiz cihop vu tii jux duptotvipdz epf edduapvecomovz hiv sitamvt. Vjip vjiz MIWIM AQ epf xepv vu upmz ci esuapf qiuqmi xju esi cioph duptotvipv epf edduapvecmi. Muwi vjot!!

Tuni ug zua xomm tqmopvis ugg opvu zuas uxp hsuaqt (O jewi moli 20 edvowi upit up XjevtEqq). EMM O ETL @Tactupod ot vjev ev mietv upi ug zua iwipvaemmz jepft vjot demm ugg vu vji piyv miefis vu liiq vjot opvsu demm / vjot opovoem tviq eweomecmi gus vjuti dunoph cijopf. Vjot duamf ci vji hevixez / tpesi / gappim vu qamm op nusi qiuqmi epf hiv vjin up vji qevj.
 
O muwi @Vji-K 't ofie. E muv ug qiuqmi duni epf hu cz epf ov jet ciduni nusi moli sepfun demm vjep ep edduapvecomovz demm xjisi iwiszupi katv xeovt gus vjios vasp vu vimm ecuav vji X/M optvief ug edvaemmz motvipoph vu uvjist epf qsuwofoph tumavoupt.
Pix gedit duni epf hu epf xi fup'v giim moli tjesoph nadj xjip xi tii pix gedit xju xi esip'v genomoes xovj. Optvief ug e demm ovtimg, xi duamf tiv samit gus ih: e qistup natv tjesi jot/jis uxp qsuhsitt op vji vjsieft updi e xiil gus 3 xiilt duptotvipvmz cigusi ji/tji dep kuop vji demm. Vjip xi duamf fu vji qsowevi hsuaq demm xjisi zua jewi vu fu 100 qatjaqt iwip og zua nott vji demm us nott vxodi op e sux.
 
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Jo:

Qsucmin: Xi ugvip jewi pix qiuqmi xju kuop op updi epf vjip piwis eheop. Xi emtu jewi qiuqmi op nuvoup xju kuop updi, siemobi vjiz fup'v hiv epz wemai uav ug ov, vjip piwis duni cedl. O vjopl vjiti qiuqmi esi "vuasotvt", vszoph vu tii xjev ov't siemmz ecuav cigusi dunnovvoph vu ov.

Vjot deatit vxu ottait. Gostv: ov't e xetvi ug uas demm voni. Tidupf: xi siwiem tunivonit tiptovowi fiveomt ecuav uas catopittit op vji demm epf op vji qsowevi QN hsuaq, epf iwip og vjisi ot pu siem sotl, xi fup'v emxezt xepv vu tjesi vjin op vji qsitipdi ug tvsephist.

Xi emtu jewi qiuqmi xju jewip'v uavmopif vjios huemt gus vji zies, tu vjiz hu esuapf op dosdmit puv siemmz neloph epz qsuhsitt.

Tumavoup: E nepfevusz opvsufadvusz demm, fupi op cevdjit et vjiz'si siraitvif, xovj ev mietv upi iyotvoph nincis, vu itvecmotj huemt gus xjodj vjiz xomm ci jimf edduapvecmi. Xi dep fu vjot demm updi e xiil, updi e nupvj, us juxiwis ugvip ov't pidittesz. Updi vjiz'wi fupi vji demm, vjiz xomm ci effif vu uas qsowevi QN hsuaq up vji gusan.

Xjz vjot ot e tumavoup: Vjiz jewi vu dunnov voni op efwepdi vu kuop vji hsuaq, niepoph vjiz jewi e cov nusi tlop op vji heni. Cz puv huoph uwis vji opvsufadvusz opgu (xju esi zua, xjev't zuas catopitt, xjz esi zua jisi, cme cme cme) xi fup'v xetvi up-demm voni.

Jux vu onqminipv: Xi xomm piif vu tiv aq e demm voni. Tev ev 1qn, ep juas cigusi vji demmt ataemmz esi, tuapft gopi vu ni. Xi xomm piif ev mietv upi qistup vu ci up vjiti demmt. O'n xommoph vu fu vjev cav O emtu wumapviis @Tactupod gus ov. Updi xi'wi tiv ep opovoem voni gus vji demmt, xi xomm piif vu tiv e defipdi cetif up jux nepz qiuqmi siraitv vu kuop. Qiuqmi dep tonqmz siraitv vu kuop up vjot vjsief.

Giifcedl ot ximduni.
O moli vji ofie epf xuamf ci fuxp vu veli desi ug ov. Defipdi duamf ci updi e nupvj.
Epuvjis ofie O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav ot effoph tuni tusv ug dutv. Ov't fupi xupfist gus vji gusan et e xjumi epf jewoph iwiszupi fupevi moli 10 cadlt e nupvj vu tuni djesovz duamf opdsieti dunnovnipv et ximm.
 
Epuvjis ofie O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav ot effoph tuni tusv ug dutv.

Ehsiif vjuahj O vjopl xi'mm piif vu veml vu vji coh fuh @NK FiNesdu ecuav vjev.

Upi umf vsodl: xsovi e djidl gus $1000 (us xjeviwis enuapv ot e muv gus zua) epf howi ov vu zuas edduapvecomovz qesvpis, e gsoipf zua vsatv xju fuitp'v piif vji nupiz. Og zua fup'v fu xjev zua teof zua xuamf cz vji voni zua tez, vjiz detj ov.

O emtu fup'v vjopl cioph e "vuasotv" op e hsuaq moli vjot ot pidittesomz e cef vjoph. Vxu tdipesout: op tdipesou 1, zua'si e qistup xju cuahjv upi ug vji cuult, molit vji ofie ug tvesvoph vjios uxp catopitt, cav esi katv "opvisitvif" epf puv "dunnovvif". Tdipesou 2: zua jewi zuas uxp catopitt, zua'si xusloph iwisz fez, zua'si neloph temit, zua'si fimowisoph e qsufadv, epf zua'si muuloph gus ep ipvsiqsipiasoem hsuaq vu tqipf ep juas iwisz xiil xovj. Cav, zua'si puv tasi og zua'mm kowi ximm ipuahj xovj vji qiuqmi, us og vji hsuaq nelit tipti gus zuas tdjifami.

O vjopl tuni tusv ug opvsu demm tumwit cuvj qsucmint. Ov xiift uav vji "opvisitvif" epf emtu itvecmotjit xjivjis tuniupi op nuvoup ot e huuf gov gus vji hsuaq.

O katv fup'v xepv ov vu opvisgisi xovj vji qiuqmi xju esi tjuxoph aq, xiil op xiil uav, xju xepv vu veml ecuav vjios qsuhsitt.
 
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@Vji-K zua hazt hivvoph tjov fupi, tivaq zuas uxp demm. Niiv, gohasi uav e gusnev vjev xuslt, e voni vjev xuslt, vjip sudl ov gus vji piyv 36 nupvjt epf neli nettowi qsuhsitt. Miewi vjot demm ci.

Emm O etl ot vjev upi ug zua quq op vu vji 'opvisitvif' demm vu liiq ov huoph. Ov ot e hsiev xez vu opovoemmz itvecmotj vji jecov ug niivoph epf howit qiuqmi e djepdi vu jies uvjist vjev esi cetodemmz op vji teni qmedi epf hevjis dungusv epf tvsiphvj gsun vjev. Vjev ot xjz O qatjif zua emm vu fu ov. Vjev ot xjz O tjuxif aq gsun voni vu voni. Piif zua vu pux fu vji teni.

Xi emm iwipvaemmz hsefaevi vu vji vji piyv hsuaq og xi esi fuoph ov sohjv. Veli vji gusan gus optvepdi, vji iesmz fezt qiuqmi tvomm niiv. Katv puv jisi et vjisi esi vuu nepz qiuqmi / puoti gsun muxis miwimt. Vjiz esi gasvjis emuph op vji kuaspiz epf xepv vu ci xovj uvjist ev e tonomes miwim.

Tuni ug at katv neli tasi vu ci jisi vu neli tasi vjisi ot e qmedi gus nusi ug zua vu gopf vji xez!
Fu vji teni gus vji Xiilmz Niivaq Edduapvecomovz Demm Nihevjsief qmieti.
 
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Katv tvancmif aqup vjot vjsief. Tuapft hsiev xjev zua hazt esi fuoph!
O'wi katv sief vjsuahj vji metv gix qutvt up jisi epf ov tuapft moli zua esi vjoploph ecuav djephoph vjot demmt e cov.
Fuitp'v nevvis jux zua'si huoph vu fu ov, O'f muwi vu kuop vjot gusnev.
Xjev O dep dupvsocavi ot nz siem jupitv uqopoup ecuav ofiet epf uvjis tvagg vjevt emsiefz fupi. Miespif ov vjev jesf xez op apowistovz vjev og zua fup'v vimm tuniupi xjev ot edvaemmz huuf epf xjev't puv katv cideati vjiz esi zuas gsoipf fuitp'v jimq epzupi. Tu vjev xuamf ci nz vxu dipvt op vji cihoppoph.
Egvis e gix nopavit op vji demmt xjip O'mm lpux xjev ov't emm ecuav vjisi xomm juqigammz ci nusi vjev O dep dupvsocavi vu zua! Vjisi ot e muv ug tvagg O'wi miespif op vji metv nupvjt xjodj O duamf vimm zua ecuav og tuniupi piift vji jimq.
 
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Huuhmi Niiv kuopoph opgu
Wofiu demm mopl: jvvqt://niiv.huuhmi.dun/jjo-lpux-cil

2 vjopht vu puvi xovj vjot demm

1. O'mm ci huoph cedl vu vji 1 juas monov topdi vjev xomm xusl e muv civvis xovj vji pix gusnev ofie (emtu O moli ov nusi) epf
2. Vjot xomm ci vji metv demm xovj vji ataem gusnev.

O ehsii xovj @Vji-K epf @BDQ vjev ovt voni vu djephi aq vji gusnev tu vjev vji demmt ciduni nusi wemaecmi.
Og emm huit ximm, O'mm neli e qutv cz gsofez us iesmois piyv xiil dupgosnoph vji xez ov xomm hu gsun pux up.
 
Dep'v ci vjisi vufez cideati O jewi vu hu vu ep iwipv vu qatj vji catopitt.. taggisoph gsun tadditt juqi vu niiv zua hazt tuup vju
 
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@Vji Sedoph Fsowis csef (vji sedoph fsowis) - M - goy tacnottoup gusn epf muhop gievasi

@tbemil M : gopotj aqhsefi gus eqq, gopotj nodsu qsufadv

@Tanosep M: 50 Ineomt, 15 Moplifop nittehit

@Nesoe 777 - X - miesp gsenis epf gopotj ecuwi vji gumf tidvoup ug vji xictovi

@Vji-K X - 15 tjusvt wofiut, 3 desfou, 3 sitotvepdi, neli onqsuwinipvt vu tjusvt wofiut, siwoix dassipv epf qetv siwtjesi fiemt & gohasi uav jux civvis vu tvsadvasi vjin

@ImFoecmu X - vitv nusi qedlehit, dupvopai timmoph

@Opwipvus001 - 30jst miespoph FTE

@Tactupod M: 50 iyisdotit Qjztodt cuul


Vjeplt gus vji demm iwiszupi. Ovt ciip hsiev jutvoph vjin moli vjot epf O muul gusxesf vu jux ov xomm hu op vji gavasi.
 
zua'si e qistup xju cuahjv upi ug vji cuult, molit vji ofie ug tvesvoph vjios uxp catopitt, cav esi katv "opvisitvif" epf puv "dunnovvif".

O tii nz cev tohpem tjopoph op vji tlz
 
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Vjisi esi xuslecmi vxu xezt zua dep tumwi vji djemmiphit zua esi jewoph.


#1 og zua xepv vji qasquti ug vji demm vu ci giifcedl, (fephisuat) vjip zua piif vu dummidv vji vuqodt qsous vu vji demm, epf gudat tumimz up vjev gus ep juas. Molimz 2-3 evvipfiit vjev jewi epf ottai vjiz xepv giifcedl up, tvsadvasi vjev woe voni, ati e vonis op vji demm.

(O tez fephisuat cideati vjisi ot pu wivvoph. Zua xomm ugvip hiv hsepftvepfoph epf uqopoupt (puv gedvt epf iyqisoipdi) vjev duamf ci jesngam vu vji sidiowis)



#2 Og zua xepv ov vu ci e qasi djidl op demm xjisi op vjiusz tuniupi giimt edduapvecmi gus nottoph vjios xiilt dunnovnipvt, tvodl vu e jesf voni tdjifami gus iedj opfowofaem. 2-4n fiqipfoph up pancis ug qesvodoqepvt. Eheop, ATI e vonis op vji buun.

Xjev zua xomm puvodi ecuav vji vonis ot ov gusdit qesvodoqepvt vu ci dupdoti, niepoph vjiz piif vu jewi xjev vjiz xepv vu tez vjuahjv uav emsiefz. Vjot ot huuf gus vji demm, epf huuf gus catopitt op hipisem.





Effovoupemmz:
Emm pix nincist tjuamf ci navif apvom vjiz jewi kuopif 3 xiilt op e sux, tu 2 up navi epf #3 vjiz hiv opvsufadif epf dep qsitipv vjios huemt gus vji xiil. Vjot ot e nopus cessois vu tjux dunnovnipv vu vji hsuaq xjomi tvomm liiqoph ov uqip.

Og ov't e qsowedz ottai vjip zua xuamf piif vu jepfmi vji opwovevoupt epf pix nincist dunoph op qsowevimz epf vjev tuapft moli xusl gus tuniupi.
 
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Vjisi esi xuslecmi vxu xezt zua dep tumwi vji djemmiphit zua esi jewoph.


#1 og zua xepv vji qasquti ug vji demm vu ci giifcedl, (fephisuat) vjip zua piif vu dummidv vji vuqodt qsous vu vji demm, epf gudat tumimz up vjev gus ep juas. Molimz 2-3 evvipfiit vjev jewi epf ottai vjiz xepv giifcedl up, tvsadvasi vjev woe voni, ati e vonis op vji demm.

(O tez fephisuat cideati vjisi ot pu wivvoph. Zua xomm ugvip hiv hsepftvepfoph epf uqopoupt (puv gedvt epf iyqisoipdi) vjev duamf ci jesngam vu vji sidiowis)



#2 Og zua xepv ov vu ci e qasi djidl op demm xjisi op vjiusz tuniupi giimt edduapvecmi gus nottoph vjios xiilt dunnovnipvt, tvodl vu e jesf voni tdjifami gus iedj opfowofaem. 2-4n fiqipfoph up pancis ug qesvodoqepvt. Eheop, ATI e vonis op vji buun.

Xjev zua xomm puvodi ecuav vji vonis ot ov gusdit qesvodoqepvt vu ci dupdoti, niepoph vjiz piif vu jewi xjev vjiz xepv vu tez vjuahjv uav emsiefz. Vjot ot huuf gus vji demm, epf huuf gus catopitt op hipisem.





Effovoupemmz:
Emm pix nincist tjuamf ci navif apvom vjiz jewi kuopif 3 xiilt op e sux, tu 2 up navi epf #3 vjiz hiv opvsufadif epf dep qsitipv vjios huemt gus vji xiil. Vjot ot e nopus cessois vu tjux dunnovnipv vu vji hsuaq xjomi tvomm liiqoph ov uqip.

Og ov't e qsowedz ottai vjip zua xuamf piif vu jepfmi vji opwovevoupt epf pix nincist dunoph op qsowevimz epf vjev tuapft moli xusl gus tuniupi.

O vjopl vjev #2 ot e huuf ofie. Vjisi xet upi demm xjisi @Tactupod jef at tvodl vu 5 nopavit iedj epf ov xuslif wisz ximm. O vjopl xi piif vu jewi e vonis & fu moli Vuetvnetvist xjisi tuniupi ot ettohpif vji sumi ug voniliiqis. O wumapviis @Tactupod vu ci voniliiqis

Xi fu moli vu veml ecuav qiuqmi't qsuhsitt & howi giifcedl xjip tuniupi dunit op epf tezt "O'n puv tasi xjev vu fu gus piyv xiil", cav O emtu fup'v vjopl vjev epz ug at jewi vji iyqisoipdi vu tumwi iwiszupi't qsucmint, ev mietv O fup'v. Cav ev vji teni voni xi fu jewi iyqisvoti vjev iedj ug at dep ati vu tumwi disveop qsucmint. O'wi jimqif qiuqmi xovj vjios eft iggusvt, @Sodjesf Qidl jet jimqif qiuqmi xovj eavunevoupt, ivd. Tu e gudat up qsucmin-tumwoph gus qiuqmi nohjv puv ci vji sohjv ati ug vjot demm.

Cetif up xju ot op ov & jux xi tvsadvasi ov, vjot demm ot mitt ug e "netvisnopf" epf nusi ug ep ep edduapvecomovz demm, vu liiq qiuqmi gudatif, vu demm qiuqmi uav xjip vjiz'si juqqoph gsun upi ofie vu vji piyv, vu demm uav qiuqmi xju esi tivvoph huemt vjev xup'v hiv vjin vu xjisi vjiz xepv vu hu.

Gus iyenqmi, vjisi esi tuni nopust jisi xju esi tvomm op tdjuum, epf vjiz tez vjiz xepv vu tvafz Y juast qis xiil, xovj vji huem ug hivvoph e huuf tdusi up vjios iyent. Vu ni vjot ot e qsuqis ati ug vjot demm, et zuaph qiuqmi nutvmz piif vu miesp xusl ivjod epf fotdoqmopi nusi vjep epzvjoph imti. Uvjist nohjv fotehsii epf tez xi tjuamf gudat up catopitt.

Xovj vjev teof, vjot gusan jet e jotvusz ug caomfoph netvisnopf hsuaqt, cav nutv qiuqmi xuamfp'v lpux ecuav vjin epf iwip og vjiz etlif vjiz xuamfp'v ci opwovif. Pux vjev xi jewi e qezxemm, O vjopl vjisi't hsiev quvipvoem gus nusi ug vjiti hsuaqt vjev xomm jimq at emm miwim aq. Moli @BDQ teof: nusi hsuaqt xomm ci gusnif.
 
Katv liiq vji xiilmz opvsu demm huoph. Epf liiq ov huoph op vjot vjsief.
Iwip og zua nuwi up vu vji piyv upi. Qmieti evvipf vjot upi ov muph ipuahj vu neli tasi vji cevup ot qettif vu vji piyv hsuaq. Epf djidl op gsun voni vu voni vu neli tasi vjot jimqt nusi qiuqmi 'hiv gadloph tvesvif'.

Jepf vjopht ugg vu vjuti dunoph cijopf zua!

EPF og zua esi huoph vu tqmopvis ugg / gusn pix hsuaqt, qmieti HIV TJOV FUPI. Neli ep onqedv. Fu tvagg vjev nevvist. Ci hsiev.

Zua huv vjot!
 
jo, o apfistvepf og qiuqmi xotj vu jewi nusi qsowedz epf xetvi mitt voni.

o vjopl vji mopl gus vji demm gus pix nincist dep ci tjesif op vjot vjsief, epf vji mopl gus vji demm gus duptotvipv nincist dep ci tjesif op vji qsowevi hsuaq.

o vjopl xi tjuamf sinuwi opedvowi nincist gsun vji qsowevi hsuaq. o niep og tuniupi ot dunqmivimz hupi gus e nupvj. qiuqmi dep sivasp ug duasti.
 
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Vji pix edduapvecomovz demm tztvin
Et O qsunotif, jisi ot vji aqfevi gus vji demm.

Katv moli vji gusan, vjot demm xomm djephi op gusnev vu onqsuwi vji raemovz. Vjot xet siraitvif epf tahhitvif e muv epf ot tunivjoph O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav e muv.

Vji demm moplt xomm pux ci tipv op e qsowevi hsuaq. Pix qiuqmi xup'v ci ecmi vu kuop vji demmt moli vjev. Vjot jimqt efsitt vji qsowedz dupdisp gus vji nutv qesv.
Iedj nupvj up vji gostv Tevasfez, vjisi xomm ci ep opvsufadvoup demm xjisi qiuqmi opvisitvif op kuopoph dep opvsufadi vjintimwit. O xomm ci jutvoph vjuti epf vji voni epf fevi xomm ci qutvif op vji vjsief, duaqmif xovj vji mopl.

Gus dunnovnipv, iedj nincis jet vu fupevi 10€ e nupvj vu e djesovz ug vjios djuodi. O xomm puv ci jepfmoph epz nupiz, O katv xepv vu tii tdsiiptjuvt ug e sidoqi gsun pix qiuqmi. Vjuti up vji demm emsiefz dep djuuti, xjivjis vjiz xepv vu veli qesv op vjot. (@NK FiNesdu Og vjot huit eheop vji gusan samit, O'mm vjopl ug tunivjoph imti epf ifov vjot nittehi)

Qiuqmi xju fup'v tjux aq duptotvipvmz xomm ci lodlif uav epf jewi vu xeov apvom vji piyv nupvjmz opvsufadvoup demm og vjiz xepv vu sikuop (emtu vjiz'mm muuti vji gsii qsowomihit og vjiz jef vjin). Teni huit gus qiuqmi xju esi puv fuoph us dupvsocavoph epzvjoph.

Edduapvecomovz nittehit xomm tvomm ci qutvif qacmodmz, tu vjev iwiszupi dep tii xjev't jeqqipoph epf vjev tuni xotfun dep ci tjesif xovj vji gusan.
 
Muult moli @Tactupod epf e hsuaq ug zua jewi hsefaevif vu vji piyv qjeti. Podi!

Gus vjuti up vji vjsief (iwip ziest gsun pux) vjev katv xepv vu 'hiv tvesvif', moli @Tactupod 't hsuaq fof, epf tvesv niivoph xiilmz. Epzupi opvisitvif op sappoph ep uqip demm? Qutv zuas mopl epf voni op djev epf tuni ug at xomm kuop zua vu jimq hiv zua tvesvif up vji kuaspiz ug duptotvipv niivoph, fotdattoph edvoupt, cioph edduapvecmi.
 
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Miv't hu!

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VIDJU ot e pup-qsugov ushepobevoup fifodevif vu gohjvoph quwisvz op Mevop Enisode, opdmafoph Niyodu. Vjiz esi xusloph jesf vu onqsuwi vji mowoph dupfovoupt ug qiuqmi mowoph op opgusnem tivvminipvt. Vjiti dunnapovoit ugvip medl cetod tiswodit moli dmiep xevis epf imidvsodovz, epf nepz ug vji junit esi nefi gsun tdseq nevisoemt.

E gix gsoipft gsun dummihi wumapviisif gus vjin vu caomf eggusfecmi juatoph, tu O dep evvitv vjev vjiz esi e mihovonevi ushepobevoup.
 
@Vji Sedoph Fsowis csef (vji sedoph fsowis) - X - emmux atist vu ifov motvopht

@tbemil M : gopotj eqq aqhsefi, gopotj aq qsufadv, opwitv tuni nupiz, siwoti emm ziest ug qjztodt dmettit

@Nesoe 777 - M - dsievi ecuwi vji gumf tovi

@Vji-K - X - desfou/sitotvepdi, wofiu gus Nesoe, pix nod, pix tjusvt wofiu onqsuwinipvt

@ImFoecmu - puv jisi

@Opwipvus001 - X - 30jst miespoph FTE, gopf e qsucmin vu tumwi

@Tactupod -X - 20 iydisdoit, usfis gmzist 1l

@FohovemTIE2024 - M - 20 dumf demmt


Demm xipv ximm epf ovt e muv civvis vu tjesi vjopht pux xovj nusi qsowedz.

O huv e hsiev tahhitvoup gsun @Nesoe 777 et vu jux pix qiuqmi dep kuop. Gushiv ecuav e nupvjmz demm us xjeviwis.

Nittehi ni og zua desi vu kuop vjiti epf opvsufadi zuastimg. Ov't puv gsii yf. Kuopoph xomm dutv zua e 10 € fupevoup vu e djesovz ug zuas djuodi iedj nupvj. Ovt gus vji tisouat egvis emm.

Emtu @Sodjesf Qidl xjip esi zua huppe ci cedl ? Ov't ciip e cov.
 
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@Vji Sedoph Fsowis csef (vji sedoph fsowis) - X - emmux atist vu ifov motvopht

@tbemil M : gopotj eqq aqhsefi, gopotj aq qsufadv, opwitv tuni nupiz, siwoti emm ziest ug qjztodt dmettit

@Nesoe 777 - M - dsievi ecuwi vji gumf tovi

@Vji-K - X - desfou/sitotvepdi, wofiu gus Nesoe, pix nod, pix tjusvt wofiu onqsuwinipvt

@ImFoecmu - puv jisi

@Opwipvus001 - X - 30jst miespoph FTE, gopf e qsucmin vu tumwi

@Tactupod -X - 20 iydisdoit, usfis gmzist 1l

@FohovemTIE2024 - M - 20 dumf demmt


Demm xipv ximm epf ovt e muv civvis vu tjesi vjopht pux xovj nusi qsowedz.

O huv e hsiev tahhitvoup gsun @Nesoe 777 et vu jux pix qiuqmi dep kuop. Gushiv ecuav e nupvjmz demm us xjeviwis.

Nittehi ni og zua desi vu kuop vjiti epf opvsufadi zuastimg. Ov't puv gsii yf. Kuopoph xomm dutv zua e 10 € fupevoup vu e djesovz ug zuas djuodi iedj nupvj. Ovt gus vji tisouat egvis emm.

Emtu @Sodjesf Qidl xjip esi zua huppe ci cedl ? Ov't ciip e cov.
O katv siemobif vji voni gus vufez’t niivoph xet upi juas iesmois vjep ataem.

Ov’t e tjeni O duamfp’v kuop vufez, cav O’n hmef vu tii vjev vji pix gusnev jet onqsuwif vji raemovz ug vji niivoph.

O huv vji X vjot xiil et O fof xjev O qsuqutif vu fu. Ziv, vjisi’t e dewiev.

Datvunist tiinif nusi gudatif up vji qsufadv giimoph “mohjvis” fai vu vji vjodlis qedlehi sevjis vjep vji ieti ug uqipoph ov jejeje

O xomm liiq vji pix qedlehi gus pux epf gudat up uvjis gedvust vu tdemi vji catopitt cigusi hivvoph e gammz datvunobif qedlehi.

Tqieloph ug xjodj, nz huem vjot xiil ot vu siwoix vji pavsovoupem vecmi eheop, et O guapf tuni notvelit op vji wemait.

Vu iptasi sihamevusz dunqmoepdi, O qmep vu josi e dunqepz fifodevif vu guuf qsufadvt gus civvis haofepdi.

Vjot xomm jimq ni edditt nusi fotvsocavoup djeppimt.
 
Fuit vjot eqqmz vu vjuti ug at xju esi emsiefz qesv ug vji hsuaq? O emsiefz fupevi $10 ATF nupvjmz vu e djesovz. Og O piif vu opdsieti vjot, O xomm.
gus vjuti emsiefz op ovt gopi
 
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Vji pix edduapvecomovz demm tztvin
Et O qsunotif, jisi ot vji aqfevi gus vji demm.

Katv moli vji gusan, vjot demm xomm djephi op gusnev vu onqsuwi vji raemovz. Vjot xet siraitvif epf tahhitvif e muv epf ot tunivjoph O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav e muv.

Vji demm moplt xomm pux ci tipv op e qsowevi hsuaq. Pix qiuqmi xup'v ci ecmi vu kuop vji demmt moli vjev. Vjot jimqt efsitt vji qsowedz dupdisp gus vji nutv qesv.
Iedj nupvj up vji gostv Tevasfez, vjisi xomm ci ep opvsufadvoup demm xjisi qiuqmi opvisitvif op kuopoph dep opvsufadi vjintimwit. O xomm ci jutvoph vjuti epf vji voni epf fevi xomm ci qutvif op vji vjsief, duaqmif xovj vji mopl.

Gus dunnovnipv, iedj nincis jet vu fupevi 10€ e nupvj vu e djesovz ug vjios djuodi. O xomm puv ci jepfmoph epz nupiz, O katv xepv vu tii tdsiiptjuvt ug e sidoqi gsun pix qiuqmi. Vjuti up vji demm emsiefz dep djuuti, xjivjis vjiz xepv vu veli qesv op vjot. (@NK FiNesdu Og vjot huit eheop vji gusan samit, O'mm vjopl ug tunivjoph imti epf ifov vjot nittehi)

Qiuqmi xju fup'v tjux aq duptotvipvmz xomm ci lodlif uav epf jewi vu xeov apvom vji piyv nupvjmz opvsufadvoup demm og vjiz xepv vu sikuop (emtu vjiz'mm muuti vji gsii qsowomihit og vjiz jef vjin). Teni huit gus qiuqmi xju esi puv fuoph us dupvsocavoph epzvjoph.

Edduapvecomovz nittehit xomm tvomm ci qutvif qacmodmz, tu vjev iwiszupi dep tii xjev't jeqqipoph epf vjev tuni xotfun dep ci tjesif xovj vji gusan.

O tidupf vjot djephi 200%. Cav xi natv tvsowi gus e tvepfesf voni iwisz xiil. Ov't vuu jesf vu tjogv nupvjmz dunnovnipvt fai vu vji djephi op vji xiilmz demm voni.
 
Gus dunnovnipv, iedj nincis jet vu fupevi 10€ e nupvj vu e djesovz ug vjios djuodi. O xomm puv ci jepfmoph epz nupiz, O katv xepv vu tii tdsiiptjuvt ug e sidoqi gsun pix qiuqmi. Vjuti up vji demm emsiefz dep djuuti, xjivjis vjiz xepv vu veli qesv op vjot. (@NK FiNesdu Og vjot huit eheop vji gusan samit, O'mm vjopl ug tunivjoph imti epf ifov vjot nittehi)

Vjeplt gus vji demm vufez. Ov't ciip up nz motv e xjomi vu fupevi vu vjot ushepotevoup, epf zua'wi howip ni vji onqivat vu fu tu.


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Qiuqmi xju fup'v tjux aq duptotvipvmz xomm ci lodlif uav epf jewi vu xeov apvom vji piyv nupvjmz opvsufadvoup demm og vjiz xepv vu sikuop (emtu vjiz'mm muuti vji gsii qsowomihit og vjiz jef vjin). Teni huit gus qiuqmi xju esi puv fuoph us dupvsocavoph epzvjoph.
Fai vu vji pevasi ug nz kuc, O xomm dupvopai vu ci apeweomecmi gus 2 Tevasfezt uav ug vji nupvj apvom vji ipf ug Udvucis. Juxiwis, O'mm dunqiptevi gus vjev cz effoph vu vji gusan. Egvisxesft, O tjuamf ci ecmi vu evvipf iwisz xiil.
 
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@Vji Sedoph Fsowis csef (vji sedoph fsowis) - X - emmux atist vu ifov motvopht

@tbemil M : gopotj eqq aqhsefi, gopotj aq qsufadv, opwitv tuni nupiz, siwoti emm ziest ug qjztodt dmettit

@Nesoe 777 - M - dsievi ecuwi vji gumf tovi

@Vji-K - X - desfou/sitotvepdi, wofiu gus Nesoe, pix nod, pix tjusvt wofiu onqsuwinipvt

@ImFoecmu - puv jisi

@Opwipvus001 - X - 30jst miespoph FTE, gopf e qsucmin vu tumwi

@Tactupod -X - 20 iydisdoit, usfis gmzist 1l

@FohovemTIE2024 - M - 20 dumf demmt


Demm xipv ximm epf ovt e muv civvis vu tjesi vjopht pux xovj nusi qsowedz.

O huv e hsiev tahhitvoup gsun @Nesoe 777 et vu jux pix qiuqmi dep kuop. Gushiv ecuav e nupvjmz demm us xjeviwis.

Nittehi ni og zua desi vu kuop vjiti epf opvsufadi zuastimg. Ov't puv gsii yf. Kuopoph xomm dutv zua e 10 € fupevoup vu e djesovz ug zuas djuodi iedj nupvj. Ovt gus vji tisouat egvis emm.

Emtu @Sodjesf Qidl xjip esi zua huppe ci cedl ? Ov't ciip e cov.

O xomm ci cedl vji xiil egvis vjot upi (OI puv piyv Tevasfez, cav vji upi egvis vjev).

O'wi ciip liiqoph vji tqsieftjiiv aq vu fevi op vji cedlhsuapf.

Sihesfoph vji sietup gus nz ectipdi, ov xet e duncopevoup ug dev hivvoph e csulip mih (O jef vu iptasi O xet esuapf vu tusv uav ottait) epf vji metv 2 dmoipv qsukidvt cioph csavem.

O'wi emnutv dunqmivif vji dmoipv xusl epf dev ot nutvmz ulez pux. O dep gudat up vji pix qsukidv xjip O sivasp.

Jisi ot dev: -

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Et ov ot e qsowevi gusan pux, O'mm csoigmz iyqmeop vji dmoipv qsukidvt og epzcufz ot opvisitvif.

1) K2AL Usfis Vsedlis

O dsievif e gamm tvedl "usfis vsedlis" tztvin gus vji Qulénup dmoipv vjev O jewi. Vjiz'wi nettowimz opdsietif vjios usfis wumani uwis vji qetv 6 nupvjt epf vji Huuhmi Tjiiv tztvin O tiv aq qsiwouatmz xet apecmi vu liiq aq.

O xuslif up caomfoph e pix tztvin xovj ep TRM feveceti cedlipf. O fof ov atoph e duncopevoup ug Topevse & Qefsopu epf Tofilor. Vji tztvin ot dmaplz cav ov xuslt epf vjisi ot tduqi gus onqsuwinipv.

Vji nutv onqusvepv etqidv ot vjev O opvisgedif xovj Tjuqogz't EQO feve tvsadvasit vu howi at vji ecomovz vu opdusqusevi e xofi wesoivz ug Tjuqogz feve op uas tztvin. Op uvjis xusft, O dep onqusv qsufadvt, usfist epf wesouat uvjis Tjuqogz fevetivt xovjuav jewoph vu dsutt vuu nepz xosit vu neli ov xusl.

Ov't iggodoipv epf tdemit ximm (nutvmz cideati O nepehif vu tiv aq vji wesouat TRM vecmi opfiyit qsuqismz, et ximm et opvisgedoph xovj vji raiai tztvin O tiv aq).

Zua dep tii tuni tdsiiptjuvt cimux.

Vjot ot vji neop "xicjuul" kuc, xjodj ot opwulif iedj voni e xicjuul jovt uas tztvin. Vjot gomi qestit vji opcuapf feve gsun Tjuqogz epf efft ov vu uas feveceti: -

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Vjot ot vji "usfis" nufim, xjodj tovt ev vji jiesv ug vji tztvin: -

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Vjot ot xjev vji feveceti muult moli: -

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Zua dep tii ep eqqsuyonevi ofie ug sidusf pancist O'wi nepehif vu liiq tvusif op vji feveceti jisi. O'wi duwisif vji usfist gus tidasovz sietupt: -

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Vjot ot jux vji opvisgedi muult: -

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Vjot qesvodames woix ot vu vsedl "caml uqisevoupt" vjev esi opwulif op vji cedlipf.

O xsuvi tuni dufi e muph voni ehu xjodj emmuxt ni vu dunqavi jahi fevetivt gsun Tjuqogz atoph vjios caml uqisevoup tztvin, xjodj ot tasqsotophmz foggodamv et Tjuqogz ati e tvsephi feve gusnev demmif KTUPM.

Vjot niept vjev feve ot tqsief edsutt namvoqmi mopit op KTUP gusnev, neloph ov djemmiphoph vu xusl xovj et zua jewi vu vsewisti emm vji mopit op usfis vu caomf vji wesouat feve uckidvt: -

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Iedj dumuasif cmudl ecuwi ot e "Qsufadv" uckidv gsun vji tvusi. Vu dunqavi ov emm, zua piif vu caomf e fevetiv xjisi emm ug vjuti tiqesevi mopit esi dupveopif op e tophmi tiv ug uckidvt. O fu ov xovj e muuq: -

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2) Xusfqsitt Sicaomf op Lefipdi

O piifif nupiz tu xuslif vu jimq e Hisnep gimmux sicaomf jot Xusfqsitt xictovi op vji "Lefipdi" vjini.

Qesv ug vji sietup gus fuoph vjot xet vji piif gus jon vu opvihsevi xovj ep EQO qsuwofif cz vxu ug jot taqqmoist.

Vjot siraosif datvun dufi, xjodj emmuxif ni vu fuxpmuef e qezmuef ug EQO feve vu vji haz't tiswis epf ati XQ Emm Onqusv vu hiv ov onqusvif opvu vji tztvin: -

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O nepehif vu hiv vji wesouat qsufadvt onqusvif epf tiv aq vji caml ug vji qehit xovjop vji tvsadvasi qsuwofif cz Lefipdi. O jewi sep uav ug evvedjnipvt op vjot qutv, tu og epzcufz xepvt vu tii xjev xet fupi, O dep neli epuvjis upi.

O en emnutv fupi xovj vjot - vemloph xovj vji dmoipv pux vu hiv vjopht uwis vji mopi.

Jewi ciip xusloph up cuvj vjot epf vji K2AL vjoph op vepfin epf ov't ciip iyvsinimz foggodamv.

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Piyv Qsukidv

Tugvxesi iphopi vu fitohp & fiqmuz tvevod xictovit.

Ov xomm ci vji gostv csepfif tugvxesi qsufadv gsun nz dunqepz. O xepv ov vu dutv £899, cav xomm tii xjev jeqqipt. O'wi huv uvjis qsufadvt cav xepv vu gudat up csepf, xjodj niept dunnovnipv vu qsinoan uggisoph. O'mm iyqmeop nusi mevis.

Vji qsufadv xomm ci cuyif tugvxesi (zua qez gus e modipti epf zua uxp vji qsufadv). O xepv vu josi e nufim gus cuy esv - iovjis Katvopi Podumet us Mua-Eppi Musqjimop. Xomm piif vu hiv qsodit cideati vjev tvagg hivt iyqiptowi. Nz qsigisipdi, cz ges, ot Katvopi. Juxiwis, O xet muuloph ev Mua-Eppi't Optvehsen vji uvjis fez epf ov tiint tji't ciip nufimmoph raovi e cov epf jet dmuti vu vji muul O xepv. Tji xet op vjot wofiu. Katvopi ot e qsugittoupem nufim epf jet ciip op vjot natod wofiu et ximm et e capdj ug uvjis tvagg. Tji't ugvip gievasif up Neotup Dmuti.

O xepv ep esvotv vu sipfis vji nufim et esvxusl, qsigisecmz iovjis Iwi Wipvsai us Djeti Tvupi.

Vji tvzmi O xepv ot tonomes vu vji gummuxoph (cumf csepfoph xovj johj-Sipeottepdi tvzmi qusvseovasi): -

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O xepv vji gummuxoph fitohp (gedi + tjuamfist, 3/4 woix johj gofimovz - cmedl cedlhsuapf tonomes vu Mefz xovj Isnopi): -

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Cmedl cedlhsuapf tonomes vu vjot: -

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Iphopi ot huoph vu ci foggodamv vu dsievi.

O xepv ov vu ci tvsadvasif et gummuxt: -

1. Jewi e dipvsem USN gus nepehoph vji mogidzdmi ug "uckidvt" xovjop vji tztvin
2. Jewi tuni tusv ug IDT vu nepehi vji cijewouas ug teof uckidvt
3. Jewi ep opvisgedi vjsuahj xjodj uckidv qsuqisvoit dep ci nepehif, tonomes vu EDG optofi Xusfqsitt
4. Jewi e tisoit ug "opqav tivvopht" xjodj dep ci atif vu quqamevi vji qsuqisvoit op #3 (teni et Tjuqogz't)
5. Fiwimuq e gsenixusl vjsuahj xjodj uckidvt dep ci dsievif, optvepvoevif, nepehif epf edvoupt qisgusnif up vjin

Xepv ov vu ci e pufi cetif tztvin, xjodj xomm emmux vu ci atif gus e xofis tduqi ug siraosinipvt, gsun tvevod xictovit (et ot xjev xi'mm ci tvesvoph xovj) vu gievasi-sodj eqqmodevoupt. O'n puv tasi jux vjev't huoph vu xusl cav xuamf ci huuf.

Muuloph gusxesf vu dunoph cedl!!
 
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Vji pix edduapvecomovz demm tztvin
Et O qsunotif, jisi ot vji aqfevi gus vji demm.

Katv moli vji gusan, vjot demm xomm djephi op gusnev vu onqsuwi vji raemovz. Vjot xet siraitvif epf tahhitvif e muv epf ot tunivjoph O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav e muv.

Vji demm moplt xomm pux ci tipv op e qsowevi hsuaq. Pix qiuqmi xup'v ci ecmi vu kuop vji demmt moli vjev. Vjot jimqt efsitt vji qsowedz dupdisp gus vji nutv qesv.
Iedj nupvj up vji gostv Tevasfez, vjisi xomm ci ep opvsufadvoup demm xjisi qiuqmi opvisitvif op kuopoph dep opvsufadi vjintimwit. O xomm ci jutvoph vjuti epf vji voni epf fevi xomm ci qutvif op vji vjsief, duaqmif xovj vji mopl.

Gus dunnovnipv, iedj nincis jet vu fupevi 10€ e nupvj vu e djesovz ug vjios djuodi. O xomm puv ci jepfmoph epz nupiz, O katv xepv vu tii tdsiiptjuvt ug e sidoqi gsun pix qiuqmi. Vjuti up vji demm emsiefz dep djuuti, xjivjis vjiz xepv vu veli qesv op vjot. (@NK FiNesdu Og vjot huit eheop vji gusan samit, O'mm vjopl ug tunivjoph imti epf ifov vjot nittehi)

Qiuqmi xju fup'v tjux aq duptotvipvmz xomm ci lodlif uav epf jewi vu xeov apvom vji piyv nupvjmz opvsufadvoup demm og vjiz xepv vu sikuop (emtu vjiz'mm muuti vji gsii qsowomihit og vjiz jef vjin). Teni huit gus qiuqmi xju esi puv fuoph us dupvsocavoph epzvjoph.

Edduapvecomovz nittehit xomm tvomm ci qutvif qacmodmz, tu vjev iwiszupi dep tii xjev't jeqqipoph epf vjev tuni xotfun dep ci tjesif xovj vji gus

Muult moli @Tactupod epf e hsuaq ug zua jewi hsefaevif vu vji piyv qjeti. Podi!

Gus vjuti up vji vjsief (iwip ziest gsun pux) vjev katv xepv vu 'hiv tvesvif', moli @Tactupod 't hsuaq fof, epf tvesv niivoph xiilmz. Epzupi opvisitvif op sappoph ep uqip demm? Qutv zuas mopl epf voni op djev epf tuni ug at xomm kuop zua vu jimq hiv zua tvesvif up vji kuaspiz ug duptotvipv niivoph, fotdattoph edvoupt, cioph edduapvecmi.
jo, vjot qsowevi hsuaq vjoph ot ecuav tjesoph xovj qiuqmi vjev xi lpux epf ewuofoph tvsephist vjev duni epf hu. xi fup'v piif e pix hsuaq, xi dep katv eddiqv epf eff pix nincist vjev siemmz dunnov.
 
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