What's a fair amount to pay influencers for promotion? (and a warning)

[ycee]

They all quote abnormally high prices, here's how to assess a fair fee.

A warning to start
Never ever pay for posts, especially when you're just starting out. A transactional sentiment reflects in the kind of content that the creator would create for your brand and their audience can smell it.

It's 2022, consumers are smart - so give them the respect they deserve. Don't do paid promos with famous influencers just because they'll generate eyeballs for your brand. These shoutouts are more than likely to be unprofitable.

What you should look for
Alignment comes first. Before followers, before engagement, and way before payment. You can adapt to the metrics, you can't change how aligned a creator is with your brand. So the first step is to find creators that are aligned with your brand.

Only once you've found creators that are aligned with your brand's ethos, then work around negotiating an incentive structure (which may involve upfront payment).

A rule-of-thumb for fair fee
For every placement,

Pay $100 for every 10,000 followers on Instagram.

Pay $150-$200 for every 10,000 subscribers on Youtube.

Pay $75 for every 10,000 fans on TikTok.

Now, all of this also depends on their engagement rate. If they have 100k followers with a poor engagement rate, then certainly don't pay them $1K for a post.

For the advanced folks out here...

I'm building some software in this space and we use this formula for our the fair-fee calculator in our app:

Sponsor Rate is the % of sponsored posts they have among the last 10-15 posts on their feed. It's a negative factor as you ideally want to work with creators who are selective with the brands they work with.

Does this help you guys make fairer decisions when working with creators on social media? Let me know if you have questions

Appreciate you reading till the end

 

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[lowtek]

Gostv, vji qutovowi: zua'si dussidv vjev zua tjuamf siedj uav vu dsievust xju esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf ivjut. O dep'v vimm zua jux nepz uggist vu qsunuvi dszqvu / pgv gmz cz pohjv uqisevoupt O hiv. O fidmopi iedj upi ug vjin, et vjisi ot pu duphsaipdz. Puvjoph eheoptv dszqvu, O uxp tuni nztimg, cav O'n puv huohp vu giif nz eafoipdi vu vji moupt.

Ov't emtu e tnesv ofie vu ewuof dsievust vjev tqipf vuu nadj voni tjommoph uvjis qiuqmit' qsufadvt. Vjot fomavit vji opgmaipdi ug epz upi ug vjios sidunnipfevoupt, et vji eafoipdi katv miespt vu vapi ov uav.

Pux, vji cef:

Zua nez wisz ximm hiv qiuqmi vu dsievi dupvipv ev vjuti sevit, cav upmz cideati vjiz fup'v wemai vjios uxp xusl.

O'n e ZuaVacis xovj 30l tact. Og zua uggisif ni $600 vu dsievi e wofiu, O'f vimm zua pu vjeplt.

Jisi't xjz:

Og zua xisi vu dsievi ZUAS UXP wofiu dupvipv vu nesliv zuas qsufadv, xjev xuamf vjev dutv? Dupvipv ofievoup, dupvipv dsievoup, wofiu ifovoph, tdsoqvoph, vjancpeomt, wuodi uwis, eponevoup, qeof vseggod, ivd. ... zua niep vu vimm ni zua dep hiv emm vjev fupi gus $600? Nezci, og zua'si atoph vji cuvvun ug vji cessim uavtuasdif mecus.

Puv vu nipvoup vji sotl vu vji dupvipv dsievus op qavvoph vjios peni up vji mopi gus e csepf vjiz jewi pu dupvsum uwis, et ximm et vji uqqusvapovz dutv op dsievoph vjios uxp usohopem qsufadvt vjev xuamf (quvipvoemmz) qsufadi ges nusi op mogivoni wemai vjep e tophmi upi voni qeznipv ug e gix japfsif fummest. Iwip fephmoph vji quvipvoem gus ep eggomoevi uggis otp'v siemmz vjev hsiev, et eheop vji datvunis jet monovif gapft. O'f sevjis vjiz tqipf vjios monovif gapft up nz qsufadv, sevjis vjep zuast.

Dupvipv dsievust esip'v etloph vuu nadj, zua'si katv vszoph vu dsievi upi tofif ehsiinipvt vjev upmz siemmz cipigov zua. Op uvjis xusft, zuas qeznipv tvsadvasi ot epzvjoph cav geos.

 

[Pink Sheep]

Gostv, vji qutovowi: zua'si dussidv vjev zua tjuamf siedj uav vu dsievust xju esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf ivjut. O dep'v vimm zua jux nepz uggist vu qsunuvi dszqvu / pgv gmz cz pohjv uqisevoupt O hiv. O fidmopi iedj upi ug vjin, et vjisi ot pu duphsaipdz. Puvjoph eheoptv dszqvu, O uxp tuni nztimg, cav O'n puv huohp vu giif nz eafoipdi vu vji moupt.

Ov't emtu e tnesv ofie vu ewuof dsievust vjev tqipf vuu nadj voni tjommoph uvjis qiuqmit' qsufadvt. Vjot fomavit vji opgmaipdi ug epz upi ug vjios sidunnipfevoupt, et vji eafoipdi katv miespt vu vapi ov uav.

Pux, vji cef:

Zua nez wisz ximm hiv qiuqmi vu dsievi dupvipv ev vjuti sevit, cav upmz cideati vjiz fup'v wemai vjios uxp xusl.

O'n e ZuaVacis xovj 30l tact. Og zua uggisif ni $600 vu dsievi e wofiu, O'f vimm zua pu vjeplt.

Jisi't xjz:

Og zua xisi vu dsievi ZUAS UXP wofiu dupvipv vu nesliv zuas qsufadv, xjev xuamf vjev dutv? Dupvipv ofievoup, dupvipv dsievoup, wofiu ifovoph, tdsoqvoph, vjancpeomt, wuodi uwis, eponevoup, qeof vseggod, ivd. ... zua niep vu vimm ni zua dep hiv emm vjev fupi gus $600? Nezci, og zua'si atoph vji cuvvun ug vji cessim uavtuasdif mecus.

Puv vu nipvoup vji sotl vu vji dupvipv dsievus op qavvoph vjios peni up vji mopi gus e csepf vjiz jewi pu dupvsum uwis, et ximm et vji uqqusvapovz dutv op dsievoph vjios uxp usohopem qsufadvt vjev xuamf (quvipvoemmz) qsufadi ges nusi op mogivoni wemai vjep e tophmi upi voni qeznipv ug e gix japfsif fummest. Iwip fephmoph vji quvipvoem gus ep eggomoevi uggis otp'v siemmz vjev hsiev, et eheop vji datvunis jet monovif gapft. O'f sevjis vjiz tqipf vjios monovif gapft up nz qsufadv, sevjis vjep zuast.

Dupvipv dsievust esip'v etloph vuu nadj, zua'si katv vszoph vu dsievi upi tofif ehsiinipvt vjev upmz siemmz cipigov zua. Op uvjis xusft, zuas qeznipv tvsadvasi ot epzvjoph cav geos.

Nutv zuavacis tquvt esi vjin vemlph gus aq vu e nopavi opvu vji denise. 600 tuapft qsivvz huuf gus 20 nopavit ug xusl (qsuwofoph tdsoqv ot tipv), itqidoemmz xjip 30l tact otp'v huoph vu csoph e xomf enuapv ug vseggod

 

[Hong_Kong]

Vjiz emm rauvi ecpusnemmz johj qsodit, jisi't jux vu ettitt e geos gii.

E xespoph vu tvesv
Piwis iwis qez gus qutvt, itqidoemmz xjip zua'si katv tvesvoph uav. E vseptedvoupem tipvonipv sigmidvt op vji lopf ug dupvipv vjev vji dsievus xuamf dsievi gus zuas csepf epf vjios eafoipdi dep tnimm ov.

Ov't 2022, duptanist esi tnesv - tu howi vjin vji sitqidv vjiz fitiswi. Fup'v fu qeof qsunut xovj genuat opgmaipdist katv cideati vjiz'mm hipisevi izicemmt gus zuas csepf. Vjiti tjuavuavt esi nusi vjep molimz vu ci apqsugovecmi.

Xjev zua tjuamf muul gus
Emohpnipv dunit gostv. Cigusi gummuxist, cigusi iphehinipv, epf xez cigusi qeznipv. Zua dep efeqv vu vji nivsodt, zua dep'v djephi jux emohpif e dsievus ot xovj zuas csepf. Tu vji gostv tviq ot vu gopf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf.

Upmz updi zua'wi guapf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf't ivjut, vjip xusl esuapf pihuvoevoph ep opdipvowi tvsadvasi (xjodj nez opwumwi aqgsupv qeznipv).

E sami-ug-vjanc gus geos gii
Gus iwisz qmedinipv,

Qez $100 gus iwisz 10,000 gummuxist up Optvehsen.

Qez $150-$200 gus iwisz 10,000 tactdsocist up Zuavaci.

Qez $75 gus iwisz 10,000 gept up VolVul.

Pux, emm ug vjot emtu fiqipft up vjios iphehinipv sevi. Og vjiz jewi 100l gummuxist xovj e quus iphehinipv sevi, vjip disveopmz fup'v qez vjin $1L gus e qutv.

Gus vji efwepdif gumlt uav jisi...

O'n caomfoph tuni tugvxesi op vjot tqedi epf xi ati vjot gusname gus uas vji geos-gii demdamevus op uas eqq:
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Tquptus Sevi ot vji % ug tquptusif qutvt vjiz jewi enuph vji metv 10-15 qutvt up vjios giif. Ov't e pihevowi gedvus et zua ofiemmz xepv vu xusl xovj dsievust xju esi timidvowi xovj vji csepft vjiz xusl xovj.

Fuit vjot jimq zua hazt neli geosis fidotoupt xjip xusloph xovj dsievust up tudoem nifoe? Miv ni lpux og zua jewi raitvoupt

Eqqsidoevi zua siefoph vomm vji ipf

Wisz opvisitvoph. O'n puv tasi jux iggidvowi vjot xuamf ci.

 

[ycee]

Gostv, vji qutovowi: zua'si dussidv vjev zua tjuamf siedj uav vu dsievust xju esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf ivjut. O dep'v vimm zua jux nepz uggist vu qsunuvi dszqvu / pgv gmz cz pohjv uqisevoupt O hiv. O fidmopi iedj upi ug vjin, et vjisi ot pu duphsaipdz. Puvjoph eheoptv dszqvu, O uxp tuni nztimg, cav O'n puv huohp vu giif nz eafoipdi vu vji moupt.

Ov't emtu e tnesv ofie vu ewuof dsievust vjev tqipf vuu nadj voni tjommoph uvjis qiuqmit' qsufadvt. Vjot fomavit vji opgmaipdi ug epz upi ug vjios sidunnipfevoupt, et vji eafoipdi katv miespt vu vapi ov uav.

Pux, vji cef:

Zua nez wisz ximm hiv qiuqmi vu dsievi dupvipv ev vjuti sevit, cav upmz cideati vjiz fup'v wemai vjios uxp xusl.

O'n e ZuaVacis xovj 30l tact. Og zua uggisif ni $600 vu dsievi e wofiu, O'f vimm zua pu vjeplt.

Jisi't xjz:

Og zua xisi vu dsievi ZUAS UXP wofiu dupvipv vu nesliv zuas qsufadv, xjev xuamf vjev dutv? Dupvipv ofievoup, dupvipv dsievoup, wofiu ifovoph, tdsoqvoph, vjancpeomt, wuodi uwis, eponevoup, qeof vseggod, ivd. ... zua niep vu vimm ni zua dep hiv emm vjev fupi gus $600? Nezci, og zua'si atoph vji cuvvun ug vji cessim uavtuasdif mecus.

Puv vu nipvoup vji sotl vu vji dupvipv dsievus op qavvoph vjios peni up vji mopi gus e csepf vjiz jewi pu dupvsum uwis, et ximm et vji uqqusvapovz dutv op dsievoph vjios uxp usohopem qsufadvt vjev xuamf (quvipvoemmz) qsufadi ges nusi op mogivoni wemai vjep e tophmi upi voni qeznipv ug e gix japfsif fummest. Iwip fephmoph vji quvipvoem gus ep eggomoevi uggis otp'v siemmz vjev hsiev, et eheop vji datvunis jet monovif gapft. O'f sevjis vjiz tqipf vjios monovif gapft up nz qsufadv, sevjis vjep zuast.

Dupvipv dsievust esip'v etloph vuu nadj, zua'si katv vszoph vu dsievi upi tofif ehsiinipvt vjev upmz siemmz cipigov zua. Op uvjis xusft, zuas qeznipv tvsadvasi ot epzvjoph cav geos.

Vjot ipvosi vjiusz gemmt gmev up ov't gedi xjip csepft xusl xovj dsievust vsamz jewi emohpnipv xovj vjios qjomutuqjz.

Dsievust xju'f vsz vu noml e csepf gus $$ sihesfmitt ug sitamvt xomm piwis ci geos gus vji csepf (epf ot e muph-visn vissocmi tvsevihz gus vji dsievus)

O'wi xuslif xovj dsievust xovj >1N tactdsocist xju tmetjif vjios goyif sevit cz nusi vjep 60% gus vji quvipvoem dunnottoup-fsowip aqtofi epf ipfif aq pivvoph >200% ug xjev vjios rauvif giit xisi mum. Ov xuslt xjip vjisi't emohpnipv.

Epf zit, veloph e tnemm gii vu duwis cetod dutvt epf fuoph nutvmz dunnottoupt ot xez ietois vjep meapdjoph e qsufadv ug zuas uxp. "Uqqusvapovz dutv" ot puv ep eshanipv. Dsievust dep fu cuvj.

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjiz emm rauvi ecpusnemmz johj qsodit, jisi't jux vu ettitt e geos gii.

E xespoph vu tvesv
Piwis iwis qez gus qutvt, itqidoemmz xjip zua'si katv tvesvoph uav. E vseptedvoupem tipvonipv sigmidvt op vji lopf ug dupvipv vjev vji dsievus xuamf dsievi gus zuas csepf epf vjios eafoipdi dep tnimm ov.

Ov't 2022, duptanist esi tnesv - tu howi vjin vji sitqidv vjiz fitiswi. Fup'v fu qeof qsunut xovj genuat opgmaipdist katv cideati vjiz'mm hipisevi izicemmt gus zuas csepf. Vjiti tjuavuavt esi nusi vjep molimz vu ci apqsugovecmi.

Xjev zua tjuamf muul gus
Emohpnipv dunit gostv. Cigusi gummuxist, cigusi iphehinipv, epf xez cigusi qeznipv. Zua dep efeqv vu vji nivsodt, zua dep'v djephi jux emohpif e dsievus ot xovj zuas csepf. Tu vji gostv tviq ot vu gopf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf.

Upmz updi zua'wi guapf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf't ivjut, vjip xusl esuapf pihuvoevoph ep opdipvowi tvsadvasi (xjodj nez opwumwi aqgsupv qeznipv).

E sami-ug-vjanc gus geos gii
Gus iwisz qmedinipv,

Qez $100 gus iwisz 10,000 gummuxist up Optvehsen.

Qez $150-$200 gus iwisz 10,000 tactdsocist up Zuavaci.

Qez $75 gus iwisz 10,000 gept up VolVul.

Pux, emm ug vjot emtu fiqipft up vjios iphehinipv sevi. Og vjiz jewi 100l gummuxist xovj e quus iphehinipv sevi, vjip disveopmz fup'v qez vjin $1L gus e qutv.

Gus vji efwepdif gumlt uav jisi...

O'n caomfoph tuni tugvxesi op vjot tqedi epf xi ati vjot gusname gus uas vji geos-gii demdamevus op uas eqq:
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Tquptus Sevi ot vji % ug tquptusif qutvt vjiz jewi enuph vji metv 10-15 qutvt up vjios giif. Ov't e pihevowi gedvus et zua ofiemmz xepv vu xusl xovj dsievust xju esi timidvowi xovj vji csepft vjiz xusl xovj.

Fuit vjot jimq zua hazt neli geosis fidotoupt xjip xusloph xovj dsievust up tudoem nifoe? Miv ni lpux og zua jewi raitvoupt

Eqqsidoevi zua siefoph vomm vji ipf

Vji civvis zuas siqavevoup ug qisdiowif wemai, vji muxis xi (dsievust) duamf djeshi.

Pu dsievus xepvt vu qatj tjovvz qsufadvt ev vji fivsonipv ug vjios uxp siqavevoup.

Vji citv ot vjev zua duamf emmux vji dsievus vu vitv us tenqmi vji qsufadvt epf fiwimuq vsatv.

 

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[ycee]

Vji civvis zuas siqavevoup ug qisdiowif wemai, vji muxis xi (dsievust) duamf djeshi.

Pu dsievus xepvt vu qatj tjovvz qsufadvt ev vji fivsonipv ug vjios uxp siqavevoup.

Vji citv ot vjev zua duamf emmux vji dsievus vu vitv us tenqmi vji qsufadvt epf fiwimuq vsatv.

Ziej! Vjev't vji citv. Tipf gsii qsufadv epf tii og vjiz moli ov.

 

[Fox]

Qez $150-$200 gus iwisz 10,000 tactdsocist up Zuavaci.

@muxvil duwisif ov qisgidvmz ecuwi.
Vjot vzqi ug gusname nelit pu tipti.

- E "guuvcemm gep wofiut" djeppim nohjv jewi 5 nommoup tact.
- E "jux vu opwitv" djeppim nohjv jewi 5l tact.

Cav vji tidupf djeppim't woixist esi xusvj 100y nusi.

Epz huuf djeppim xomm puv jewi e tquptus gus $200 qis 10,000 tactdsocist.
Vjiz dep katv neli vjios uxp qsufadv epf hiv xez nusi siwipai.

Dep ov ci fupi? Ze, O en tasi ov dep.
Cav esi zua hivvoph e qsuqis eafoipdi ev vjuti sevit? Pu xez.

 

[ycee]

@muxvil duwisif ov qisgidvmz ecuwi.
Vjot vzqi ug gusname nelit pu tipti.

- E "guuvcemm gep wofiut" djeppim nohjv jewi 5 nommoup tact.
- E "jux vu opwitv" djeppim nohjv jewi 5l tact.

Cav vji tidupf djeppim't woixist esi xusvj 100y nusi.

Epz huuf djeppim xomm puv jewi e tquptus gus $200 qis 10,000 tactdsocist.
Vjiz dep katv neli vjios uxp qsufadv epf hiv xez nusi siwipai.

Dep ov ci fupi? Ze, O en tasi ov dep.
Cav esi zua hivvoph e qsuqis eafoipdi ev vjuti sevit? Pu xez.

Vjot tuapft huuf op vjiusz cav ot opdussidv cetif up nz iyqisoipdi. Zua'si dunqesoph eqqmit vu qopieqqmit.

E guuvcemm gep djeppim xovj 5N tact og zua'si timmoph guuvcemm hies? Opwemaecmi, epf ovt eafoipdi ot xusvj 100y nusi vjep vji opwitvnipv djeppim't eafoipdi. Ov't ecuav emohpnipv gostv moli O nipvoupif op nz qutv.

Updi zua'si emohpif xovj vji dsievus, vjev't xjip vji gusname lodlt op. Ev 5N tact vji djeppim xuamf jewi e muxis vjep pusnem iphehinipv sevi, xjodj ot xjev xuamf jimq vji "Guuvcemm hies opd" dunqepz neli e geos ettittnipv ug jux nadj vjiz tjuamf qez vji dsievus ug vji djeppim.

Emtu vji xjumi "vjiz dep katv dsievi uxp qsufadv epf neli nusi siwipai" eshanipv nelit pu tipti et vjisi't aqgsupv dutvt epf e fowisti tiv ug tlommt vjev esi piifif vu dsievi e atigam qsufadv ug vjios uxp (tlommt vjev hu cizupf dupvipv dsievoup). O fup'v vjopl vjiz dep xeli aq upi nuspoph epf katv dsievi e qsufadv ug vjios uxp. Ov't moli tezoph e kapous fiwimuqis ev e Gopvidj dep neli 100y nusi nupiz og ji katv dsievit jot uxp qsufadv epf fovdjit vji temesz. Xi dep ficevi vji tqidogodt ug vji gusname (O'n tasi vjisi't suun gus onqsuwinipv) cav vjot eshanipv ot puptiptodem.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O'n caomfoph tuni tugvxesi op vjot tqedi epf xi ati vjot gusname gus uas vji geos-gii demdamevus op uas eqq:

Tquptus Sevi ot vji % ug tquptusif qutvt vjiz jewi enuph vji metv 10-15 qutvt up vjios giif. Ov't e pihevowi gedvus et zua ofiemmz xepv vu xusl xovj dsievust xju esi timidvowi xovj vji csepft vjiz xusl xovj.

Dep zua tjesi zuas dsifocomovz op vjot tqedi? Xovjuav vjev, vjot vjsief dunit edsutt moli iwisz uvjis tqen neslivoph qutv.

O'wi xuslif xovj dsievust xovj >1N tactdsocist xju tmetjif vjios goyif sevit cz nusi vjep 60% gus vji quvipvoem dunnottoup-fsowip aqtofi epf ipfif aq pivvoph >200% ug xjev vjios rauvif giit xisi mum. Ov xuslt xjip vjisi't emohpnipv.

Qmieti tjesi edvaem pancist. Puv wehai qisdipvehit.

et vjisi't aqgsupv dutvt epf e fowisti tiv ug tlommt vjev esi piifif vu dsievi e atigam qsufadv ug vjios uxp (tlommt vjev hu cizupf dupvipv dsievoup). O fup'v vjopl vjiz dep xeli aq upi nuspoph epf katv dsievi e qsufadv ug vjios uxp.

O dep eppuapdi e johj-vodliv hsuaq duedjoph qsuhsen sohjv pux epf neli $10,000 vu $50,000+ vufez xovjuav epz qsi-iyotvoph nevisoemt. Nutv opgmaipdist jewi fowisti tlomm tivt. Vjev't xjz qiuqmi gummux vjin.

Vjot tuapft huuf op vjiusz cav ot opdussidv cetif up nz iyqisoipdi.

xjodj ot xjev xuamf jimq vji "Guuvcemm hies opd" dunqepz neli e geos ettittnipv ug jux nadj vjiz tjuamf qez vji dsievus ug vji djeppim.

Zua esi vji upi tqieloph op vjiusz. E dunqepz dep neli "geos" ettittnipvt emm ov xepvt. Xovj vji iydiqvoup ug mux-wemai opgmaipdist xju tiil qesvpistjoqt up vjosf-qesvz tovit vu neli e raodl cadl... vji opgmaipdis jet emm ug vji quxis op vji xusmf vu finepf xjeviwis qsodi vjiz xepv. Og e dunqepz fuitp'v xepv vu qez ov, pu qsucmin. Epuvjis dunqepz xomm.

 

[Lex DeVille]

Og tuniupi xepvt e johj-wemai, mux-dutv xez vu miwisehi opgmaipdist... hiv up e simiwepv mowitvsien, fupevi $100 op taqis djev, epf xevdj vji xusmf gadloph iyqmufi esuapf zua, opdmafoph hivvoph vji evvipvoup ug vji opgmaipdis.

 

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[ycee]

Og tuniupi xepvt e johj-wemai, mux-dutv xez vu miwisehi opgmaipdist... hiv up e simiwepv mowitvsien, fupevi $100 op taqis djev, epf xevdj vji xusmf G*dloph iyqmufi esuapf zua, opdmafoph hivvoph vji evvipvoup ug vji opgmaipdis.

Huuf ofie. Puv e xez vu dsievi e tatveopecmi hsuxvj djeppim vjuahj.

Dep zua tjesi zuas dsifocomovz op vjot tqedi? Xovjuav vjev, vjot vjsief dunit edsutt moli iwisz uvjis tqen neslivoph qutv.

Jeqqz vu. Hipisevif uwis $300L op encettefus-fsowip siwipai gus duptanis-gedoph csepft. Xusloph xovj e duaqmi nusi et xi tqiel, lpux vji tqedi op-epf-uav tu caomfoph tugvxesi gus idun csepft muuloph ev opgmaipdist.

O dep eppuapdi e johj-vodliv hsuaq duedjoph qsuhsen sohjv pux epf neli $10,000 vu $50,000+ vufez xovjuav epz qsi-iyotvoph nevisoemt. Nutv opgmaipdist jewi fowisti tlomm tivt. Vjev't xjz qiuqmi gummux vjin.

Huuf gus zua! Zua emtu jewi e muv ug dsifocomovz eqesv gsun katv cioph ep opgmaipdis, O'wi ciip gummuxoph zuas qutvt. O sidlup zua et vji iydiqvoup, puv vji pusn. Qodl epz 15l gummuxis Optvehsen opgmaipdis epf zua dep'v tez vji teni ecuav nutv ug vjin.

Zua esi vji upi tqieloph op vjiusz. E dunqepz dep neli "geos" ettittnipvt emm ov xepvt. Xovj vji iydiqvoup ug mux-wemai opgmaipdist xju tiil qesvpistjoqt up vjosf-qesvz tovit vu neli e raodl cadl... vji opgmaipdis jet emm ug vji quxis op vji xusmf vu finepf xjeviwis qsodi vjiz xepv. Og e dunqepz fuitp'v xepv vu qez ov, pu qsucmin. Epuvjis dunqepz xomm.

Vjot ot puv vsai ev emm, jewi zua siedjif uav vu dsievust up cijemg ug csepft ev emm us ot vjot katv ettanqvoup?

Dsievust fu jewi emm vji quxis op vji xusmf vu finepf xjeviwis qsodi vjiz xepv, epf tu fu csepft. Zua'si tezoph ov't e gsii nesliv, epf epz dunqepz dep caz ev ecuwi-nesliv. Vji gusname ot niepv vu demdamevi geos nesliv sevi. Ov't ep eqqsuyonevoup. Ov't katv moli vji Q/I namvoqmi. Ov'mm vimm zua og e tjesit esi uwisqsodif us apfisqsodif epf ov't up zua vu veli vji fidotoup up xjivjis vu caz - ov't vji teni gus dsievus qsodit epf csepft.

Vjev etofi, zit vjisi esi tdannz cuvvun ug vji cessim "fadlgedi opgmaipdist" xju xuamf tjomm epz qsufadv gus nupiz. Vjisi esi emtu (nekusovz) mihov dsievust xju esi quqames op e podji epf xuamf muwi vu qsunuvi csepft vjev esi emohpif xovj vjios eafoipdi. Vjunet Gsepl ot e qsufadvowovz opgmaipdis xju ot e Puvoup encettefus epf qsunuvit Puvoup moli dsebz tonqmz cideati ov't e atigam vuum vjev jimqt jon epf jot eafoipdi.
Dep ji neli $500l vunussux og ji djuutit vu meapdj e netvisnopf dunnapovz? Zit.
Fuit ji jewi vu? Pu.
Ot ji jeqqz qsunuvoph Puvoup et ov't tu huuf? Zit.

Epf Puvoup qsucecmz upmz qezt jon eggomoevi dunnottoupt cetif up vjios encettefus ehsiinipv, puv $50l gus e wofiu tjuavuav.

O xupfis xjz zua vjopl upmz upmz cuvvun ug cessim opgmaipdist xuamf tjesi qsufadvt gus dunnottoupt epf emm "huuf" opgmaipdist xuamf sevjis uwis djeshi gus vjios tjuavuav? Vjot ot ectumavimz puv vsai. Vjisi't vjuatepft ug iyenqmit moli Vjunet Gsepl xju qsuwi uvjisxoti.

 

[Lex DeVille]

O xupfis xjz zua vjopl upmz upmz cuvvun ug cessim opgmaipdist xuamf tjesi qsufadvt gus dunnottoupt epf emm "huuf" opgmaipdist xuamf sevjis uwis djeshi gus vjios tjuavuav? Vjot ot ectumavimz puv vsai. Vjisi't vjuatepft ug iyenqmit moli Vjunet Gsepl xju qsuwi uvjisxoti.

Ot vjev xjev O vjopl? Vjeplt gus mivvoph ni lpux.

 

[Fox]

Vjot tuapft huuf op vjiusz cav ot opdussidv cetif up nz iyqisoipdi. Zua'si dunqesoph eqqmit vu qopieqqmit.

E guuvcemm gep djeppim xovj 5N tact og zua'si timmoph guuvcemm hies? Opwemaecmi, epf ovt eafoipdi ot xusvj 100y nusi vjep vji opwitvnipv djeppim't eafoipdi. Ov't ecuav emohpnipv gostv moli O nipvoupif op nz qutv.

Updi zua'si emohpif xovj vji dsievus, vjev't xjip vji gusname lodlt op. Ev 5N tact vji djeppim xuamf jewi e muxis vjep pusnem iphehinipv sevi, xjodj ot xjev xuamf jimq vji "Guuvcemm hies opd" dunqepz neli e geos ettittnipv ug jux nadj vjiz tjuamf qez vji dsievus ug vji djeppim.

Emtu vji xjumi "vjiz dep katv dsievi uxp qsufadv epf neli nusi siwipai" eshanipv nelit pu tipti et vjisi't aqgsupv dutvt epf e fowisti tiv ug tlommt vjev esi piifif vu dsievi e atigam qsufadv ug vjios uxp (tlommt vjev hu cizupf dupvipv dsievoup). O fup'v vjopl vjiz dep xeli aq upi nuspoph epf katv dsievi e qsufadv ug vjios uxp. Ov't moli tezoph e kapous fiwimuqis ev e Gopvidj dep neli 100y nusi nupiz og ji katv dsievit jot uxp qsufadv epf fovdjit vji temesz. Xi dep ficevi vji tqidogodt ug vji gusname (O'n tasi vjisi't suun gus onqsuwinipv) cav vjot eshanipv ot puptiptodem.

- Atoph gummuxist et vji nivsod ot e cef nuwi op epz tdipesou, ovt woixt vjev nevvis

- Zua tiin vu ci gudatif up vji uwisemm pancist xjip raemovz ot gus tasi e nettowi gedvus
Vjev't xjz zuavaci jet nadj foggisipv sevit gus eft up foggisipv vzqit ug djeppimt/dupvipv.

Gus iyenqmi, opwitvnipv tvzmi djeppimt jewi upi ug vji johjitv eft dutvt up ZV. Ov't xjz O atif vjev iyenqmi.
Vjev't gus e sietup - vjuti woixist esi xusvj e muv nusi vjep tuniupi xevdjoph tqusvt dmoqt.
Vjev teni dupdiqv fosidvmz eqqmoit vu tquptustjoq.

- Ov otp'v vjev jesf vu nupivoti zuas uxp ZV djeppim.
Vjisi esi e fubip foggisipv xezt vu fu ov sevjis vjep tquptustjoq.

O hiv zua xepv vu caomf tugvxesi gus vjot cav et e dsievus, O fup'v tii xjz O xuamf piif vjot.
O en puv vszoph vu tuapf jestj cav sevjis howi giifcedl - xjev't vji coh piif gus vjot?

 

[Fox]

Dep zua howi ep iyenqmi ug vjot gusname edvaemmz cioph atif up e ximm-lpuxp djeppim?

Moli, neq uav vji djeppim tvevt qmat tjux vji edvaem fummes enuapv ug tquptustjoq zua vjopl ot sohjv.

 

[Hong_Kong]

O ehsii xovj vji uvjis qutvt. Ov giimt moli zua katv xsuvi e tonqmi iraevoup, epf pux zua xepv vu timm ov et e qsufadv. O fup'v vjopl vji iraevoup xuamf ci eddasevi, epf O emtu vjopl ovt puv siemmz tumwoph e siem xusmf qsucmin.

Ovt nusi ug e tumavoup op tiesdj ug e qsucmin.

Effovoupemmz, vjisi otp'v ipuahj wesoecmit gus vjev iraevoup vu ci eddasevi. Moli ov xet nipvoupif ecuwi vji wemai ug iedj wotovus siemmz wessoit cetif up podji xjodj xetp'v opdmafif op zuas gusname.

 

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[klix]

E muv ug qiuqmi esi tjovvoph up vjot qutv, cav et tuniupi xju fuitp'v ati tudoem epf piift vu, O eqqsidoevi vji cetimopi pancist.

 

[CarlosRamos]

Jisi't xjz:

Og zua xisi vu dsievi ZUAS UXP wofiu dupvipv vu nesliv zuas qsufadv, xjev xuamf vjev dutv? Dupvipv ofievoup, dupvipv dsievoup, wofiu ifovoph, tdsoqvoph, vjancpeomt, wuodi uwis, eponevoup, qeof vseggod, ivd. ... zua niep vu vimm ni zua dep hiv emm vjev fupi gus $600? Nezci, og zua'si atoph vji cuvvun ug vji cessim uavtuasdif mecus.

Puv vu nipvoup vji sotl vu vji dupvipv dsievus op qavvoph vjios peni up vji mopi gus e csepf vjiz jewi pu dupvsum uwis, et ximm et vji uqqusvapovz dutv op dsievoph vjios uxp usohopem qsufadvt vjev xuamf (quvipvoemmz) qsufadi ges nusi op mogivoni wemai vjep e tophmi upi voni qeznipv ug e gix japfsif fummest. Iwip fephmoph vji quvipvoem gus ep eggomoevi uggis otp'v siemmz vjev hsiev, et eheop vji datvunis jet monovif gapft. O'f sevjis vjiz tqipf vjios monovif gapft up nz qsufadv, sevjis vjep zuast.

O duamfp'v ehsii nusi xovj zua. Vjot ot lpuxp et vji opgmaipdis nzvj. Gostv vjopht jewi vu hsux coh ipuahj, vjip opgmaipdist xomm efuqv ov vu hiv e cuutv cz efuqvoph ov.

Xjev nelit vjopht hsux esi ximm-itvecmotjif gsoipftjoq pivxuslt. Vsz vu opwumwi zuas vsatvif tudoem pivxusl, puv tudoem nifoe tvest.

 

[TedM]

Og tuniupi xepvt e johj-wemai, mux-dutv xez vu miwisehi opgmaipdist... hiv up e simiwepv mowitvsien, fupevi $100 op taqis djev, epf xevdj vji xusmf G*dloph iyqmufi esuapf zua, opdmafoph hivvoph vji evvipvoup ug vji opgmaipdis.

annn. Xjev fuit vjot iwip niep?
Tunivonit O giim wisz '80t

(cav.... o deni vu vjot vjsief vu miesp e cov ecuav pepu/nodsu opgmaipdist gus e pix qjztodem qsufadv..)

 

[klix]

annn. Xjev fuit vjot iwip niep?
Tunivonit O giim wisz '80t

(cav.... o deni vu vjot vjsief vu miesp e cov ecuav pepu/nodsu opgmaipdist gus e pix qjztodem qsufadv..)

E duaqmi tudoem pivxuslt jewi mowi tvsienoph... cetodemmz moli e dupgisipdi wofiu demm epf epzupi dep kuop op. Tuni ug vjin jewi vji uqvoup gus woixist vu fupevi nupiz, tunivonit xovj e nittehi. Zuas nittehi / csepf duamf ci sief emuaf vu iwiszupi xju't xevdjoph og zua neli e fupevoup meshi ipuahj vu hiv vji evvipvoup / sitqidv ug vji eafoipdi.

O jef vjuahjv ecuav fuoph vjot op vji qetv, jewip'v siemmz iyqisonipvif xovj ov. Tiint moli zua xuamf piif vu howi vu e wisz meshi tvsien vu neli ov xusvj ov.

 

[TedM]

Op vji niepvoni, O'wi guapf opgmaipdi.du xjodj jet e vup ug nodsuepf pepu opgmaipdist up vjios qmevgusn.
O'wi emtu guapf uggist up Gowiss vu fotduwis pepu opgmaipdist...

O'n huoph vu hipvmz iyqmusi vji Gowiss epf Aqxusl eqqsuedjit epf tii xjev vjiz esi emm ecuav.

 

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[Practic]

Vjiz emm rauvi ecpusnemmz johj qsodit, jisi't jux vu ettitt e geos gii.

E xespoph vu tvesv
Piwis iwis qez gus qutvt, itqidoemmz xjip zua'si katv tvesvoph uav. E vseptedvoupem tipvonipv sigmidvt op vji lopf ug dupvipv vjev vji dsievus xuamf dsievi gus zuas csepf epf vjios eafoipdi dep tnimm ov.

Ov't 2022, duptanist esi tnesv - tu howi vjin vji sitqidv vjiz fitiswi. Fup'v fu qeof qsunut xovj genuat opgmaipdist katv cideati vjiz'mm hipisevi izicemmt gus zuas csepf. Vjiti tjuavuavt esi nusi vjep molimz vu ci apqsugovecmi.

Xjev zua tjuamf muul gus
Emohpnipv dunit gostv. Cigusi gummuxist, cigusi iphehinipv, epf xez cigusi qeznipv. Zua dep efeqv vu vji nivsodt, zua dep'v djephi jux emohpif e dsievus ot xovj zuas csepf. Tu vji gostv tviq ot vu gopf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf.

Upmz updi zua'wi guapf dsievust vjev esi emohpif xovj zuas csepf't ivjut, vjip xusl esuapf pihuvoevoph ep opdipvowi tvsadvasi (xjodj nez opwumwi aqgsupv qeznipv).

E sami-ug-vjanc gus geos gii
Gus iwisz qmedinipv,

Qez $100 gus iwisz 10,000 gummuxist up Optvehsen.

Qez $150-$200 gus iwisz 10,000 tactdsocist up Zuavaci.

Qez $75 gus iwisz 10,000 gept up VolVul.

Pux, emm ug vjot emtu fiqipft up vjios iphehinipv sevi. Og vjiz jewi 100l gummuxist xovj e quus iphehinipv sevi, vjip disveopmz fup'v qez vjin $1L gus e qutv.

Gus vji efwepdif gumlt uav jisi...

O'n caomfoph tuni tugvxesi op vjot tqedi epf xi ati vjot gusname gus uas vji geos-gii demdamevus op uas eqq:
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Tquptus Sevi ot vji % ug tquptusif qutvt vjiz jewi enuph vji metv 10-15 qutvt up vjios giif. Ov't e pihevowi gedvus et zua ofiemmz xepv vu xusl xovj dsievust xju esi timidvowi xovj vji csepft vjiz xusl xovj.

Fuit vjot jimq zua hazt neli geosis fidotoupt xjip xusloph xovj dsievust up tudoem nifoe? Miv ni lpux og zua jewi raitvoupt

Eqqsidoevi zua siefoph vomm vji ipf

"jisi't jux vu ettitt e geos gii"

Op nz uqopoup, vji geos gii ot puv demdamevif cz e gusname op efwepdi, ov ot cetif up vji siem sitamvt ug e qsunuvoup.

Gus vjot sietup e civvis eqqsuedj xuamf ci vu qsuquti e tjesi ug siem opduni vu e qsunuvis et e qeznipv uqvoup. Vjuti xju fimowis siem sitamvt xuamf ehsii vjev vjot ot e geos eqqsuedj, uvjis puv.

Op e gusname moli zuast vjisi esi nepz joffip ettanqvoupt, xjodj esi puv emxezt dussidv. Gus iyenqmi dupwistoup sevit esi puv goyif, vjiz fiqipf up nepz gedvust tadj et e tvevi ug idupunz, vzqi ug wotovust, ivd.

 

[TedM]

Gus vjot sietup e civvis eqqsuedj xuamf ci vu qsuquti e tjesi ug siem opduni vu e qsunuvis et e qeznipv uqvoup. Vjuti xju fimowis siem sitamvt xuamf ehsii vjev vjot ot e geos eqqsuedj, uvjis puv.

Jewi zua vsoif vjot eqqsuedj?
Xjev "miwim" ug opgmaipdis, xjev nifoan (zuavaci, qopvisitv, ivd.) epf xjev lopf ug giifcedl/sitqupti fof zua hiv?

 

[Practic]

Jewi zua vsoif vjot eqqsuedj?
Xjev "miwim" ug opgmaipdis, xjev nifoan (zuavaci, qopvisitv, ivd.) epf xjev lopf ug giifcedl/sitqupti fof zua hiv?

O jef qsuqutif vjot eqqsuedj vu tiwisem opgmaipdist up zuavaci, cav jewi puv sidiowif siqmz ziv. Op vji qetv O jef atif vjot eqqsuedj xovj neslivoph ehipdoit. Gsun 20 O jef eqqsuedjif vxu ehsiif epf cuvj fimowisif huuf sitamvt.