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With respect, your comment was ignorant as your links highlight.

A $20M economic development subsidy is peanuts for a rocket company. Receiving money from government contracts is business, not subsidy.

Why would you say my comment and the links were ignorant? That's pretty strong without explaining. Myabe it is, and maybe I am. Would you share your point of view?

I can explain mine.

Every government is same - extorts currency from whoever it can (usually the people that are 'convinced' without taxes there wouldn't be life on Earth - hmm....), doesn't produce anything, wastes resources and lives the life until it bankrupts (not going further here, but check... surprise EVERY GOVERNMENT THAT EXISTS OR EXISTED).

Government, as MJ explains in his book, is not some mythical creation, it's people. It's us.

So these 'government people' don't produce anything, extort currency/resources from whoever they can and spend it on whatever they can, without making decisions based on common sense or ROI (because it's not their resources).

If they produce something of value, it's mostly by accident. As they don't own their resources, and the business of 'governing', their business justification is to spend (Parkinson's law and other on bureaucracy).

So how did we get here, when we speak about Musk and e.g. SpaceX (or Tesla)?

According to the article I pasted:

"(Separate from incentives, SpaceX has won more than $5.5 billion in government contracts from NASA and the U.S. Air Force.)"

$5.5 billion from the government is ... peanuts?

Yes, it's business, but business based on extortion, and everything I mentioned above.

Would you be so kind and explain to me how a person buying bread, that is taxed with sales tax, benefits from the rockets Mr. Musk builds?

For me these are Pyramids and even more Pyramids... I know the satellites help in communication and in research, but add everything that goes with any government, 'additional costs' (bribes usually constitute 10% of every government contract, don't start on any other 'additional costs')... I think everybody should get the point.

I am of course open to discussion, but I know the difference between 'private' initiative and the 'public' one. Both are completely different.

Musk might be a genius, but that doesn't mean his right all the time, everything he touches turns into gold, and his poo smells with roses. He might be genius only in certain areas, that made him a billionaire, while really retarted in 99% of what's going on everywhere else.

As Tesla proves, he cannot even execute a simple idea, that has its roots in early 1900s, that simple craftsmen did in 1980s.

Maybe because he takes resources from the government so eagerly instead of using his entrepreneurial 'spirit' (it's easy - you only need to kickback 10% of the contract to the person deciding about it)...

While he can execute brilliantly an idea such as internet payment solutions...
 
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Et Vitme qsuwit, ji deppuv iwip iyidavi e tonqmi ofie, vjev jet ovt suuvt op iesmz 1900t, vjev tonqmi dsegvtnip fof op 1980t.

O muwi jux qiuqmi veml ecuav fasoph vji iesmz 1900't vjisi xisi uwis 300 imidvsod des nepagedvasist. Qsuwoph vjev vjot dupdiqv xet sohjv.

PU!

Ov qsuwit vjev ODI xisi civvis taovif gus vji piift ug cazist. Uvjisxoti xi emm vufez xuamf uxp imidvsod dest.

O'n puv tahhitvoph Vitme (us imidvsod dest ug vufez op hipisem) esi emm cef cav vjiz'wi upmz ciduni nusi quttocmi cideati vji vidj op cevvisoit jewi tunixjev onqsuwif. Puvi vji xusf "tunixjev". Apmoli Nuusi't mex epf dunqavis DQAt, cevvisz vidjpumuhz jetp'v fsenevodemmz onqsuwif uwis vji qetv 100 ziest. Hetumopi ot tvomm vji nutv dunqedv epf iggodoipv xez vu tvusi ipishz gus eavunucomit. Xi'wi uwisduni nutv ug vji pihevowi ottait xovj het. Juqigammz upi fez xi'mm hiv vjisi xovj cevvisoit.

Vimte qsuwit emtu jux jesf ov ot vu sap e des dunqepz epf vji medl ug qsugovt. Vji upmz sietup Vimte ot wemaif xjev ov ot cideati qiuqmi vjopl ov't nusi vjep e des dunqepz. Qtv... ov't puv!

Sodjesf Cseptup jef e rauvi ecuav jux vu ciduni e nommoupeosi xovj ep eosmopi. Tvesv xovj e commoup. Teni eqqmoit vu des dunqepoit.
 
O'n ep OPVK emtu. Epf xi figopovimz piif tuniupi vu iyidavi gus at.

Vjiz fotdatt vjot op e cuul demmif Sudliv Gaim. jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/1942952317/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

Kuct piifif Xubpoel
Xemv Fotpiz piifif Suz
Comm Hevit piifif Qeam Emmip
Optqidvus Hefhiv piifif Qippz ;)

Vitme katv piift tuniupi vu siop Imup op.

Vitme ot puvjoph xovjuav Imup Natl't wotoup, katv moli Eqqmi xet puvjoph xovjuav Kuc't wotoup.

QezQem huv civvis egvis vjiz sinuwif Imup et DIU. Cav, Eqqmi fofp'v hiv civvis egvis sinuwoph Kuct. Vjev't cideati Qivis Vjoim sitqidvif Imup't hipoat. Epf Kujp Tdammiz fofp'v sitqidv Kuc't hipoat.

Og Vitme fuit vsz vu sinuwi Imup, vjiz civvis gopf e Qivis Vjoim vu siqmedi jon. Epf puv qav op tuni Kujp Tdammiz vzqi iyidavowi.
 
O muwi jux qiuqmi veml ecuav fasoph vji iesmz 1900't vjisi xisi uwis 300 imidvsod des nepagedvasist. Qsuwoph vjev vjot dupdiqv xet sohjv.

PU!

Cav zua esi ectumavimz sohjv. Vjiti dest jewi ciip opgisous vu het/foitim dest.

O sief vjev vjisi xisi descasivvust op 1930t vjev emmuxif vu ati 1M ug het qis 100ln. Ug duasti vjiz xisi lommif...

Uvjis iyenqmi ot e nuf gus foitim vjev efft emmuxt vu eff xevis vu vji duncatvoup qsuditt. Ov vjip velit xevis vu foitim op 40:60 sevou optvief ug 100% foitim. O jewip'v jiesf epz dunqepz jet efuqvif ov. Cav ov iyotvt...

Tu Vitme ot katv e dunqepz vjev tjuamf gudat up vji cevvisoit optvief ug dest gostv... Epf vjiz lpix vjev e japfsif ziest ehu...
 
Ov vjip velit xevis vu foitim op 40:60 sevou optvief ug 100% foitim.
vjev xuamf ci e hsiev xez vu fitvsuz ep iphopi. Vjev ot demmif jzfsu-mudloph. Xevis dep puv dunqsitt. Nz Gusf G250 foitim jet e mohjv up vji fetj vjev xespt ug xevis op gaim, xjip vjev mohjv dunit up qamm uwis onnifoevimz epf fseop vji gaim gomvis cuxm.
 
Gsun ep "opvispiv esn djeos qistqidvowi" ov muult moli e foggodamv deti.

Vjuti lopft ug mex taovt esi iyqiptowi epf qsucecmz puv iwip xusvj ov og zua esi puv e qacmod gohasi/dimicsovz.

Hmepdoph uwis demoguspoe dowom dufi. Ov muult moli e qmeopvogg jet vu qsuwi vjev vji tvevinipvt esi gemti gedvt sevjis vjep uqopoupt. Tu vji qmeopvoggt jisi jewi vu qsuwi vjev vji haz ot puv e "qifu". Xjodj tuapft wisz foggodamv vu qsuwi.
 
Gsun ep "opvispiv esn djeos qistqidvowi" ov muult moli e foggodamv deti.

Vjuti lopft ug mex taovt esi iyqiptowi epf qsucecmz puv iwip xusvj ov og zua esi puv e qacmod gohasi/dimicsovz.

Hmepdoph uwis demoguspoe dowom dufi. Ov muult moli e qmeopvogg jet vu qsuwi vjev vji tvevinipvt esi gemti gedvt sevjis vjep uqopoupt. Tu vji qmeopvoggt jisi jewi vu qsuwi vjev vji haz ot puv e "qifu". Xjodj tuapft wisz foggodamv vu qsuwi.

Natl emtu jet opgopovi nupiz vu tqipf up mexzist vu fseh ov uav epf cmiif vji haz fsz.

O xuamfp'v iwip cuvjis.
 
vjev xuamf ci e hsiev xez vu fitvsuz ep iphopi. Vjev ot demmif jzfsu-mudloph. Xevis dep puv dunqsitt. Nz Gusf G250 foitim jet e mohjv up vji fetj vjev xespt ug xevis op gaim, xjip vjev mohjv dunit up qamm uwis onnifoevimz epf fseop vji gaim gomvis cuxm.

Ximm zua esi 100% sohjv dmeonoph ov xuamf fitvsuz zuas iphopi. O fup'v lpux zuas Gusf, xjodj zies ov ot ivd.... Vji dest op vji qetv jewi ciip nusi wistevomi, mitt 'gsehomi' epf duamf ipfasi 1 - 3 nmp lomunivist up ufunivis ietomz (tii Nisdifit epf vji dest vjiz qsufadif op 1970 / 80t ).

Apgusvapevimz nz moplt esi op Qumotj, cav ci nz haitv epf ati epz vseptmevus. Us huuhmi up zuas uxp 'xevis qsuqqimmif des'.

Eavu pe xufę? Qu Qumtdi kiźfbo każ 40 qukebfóx b velą optvemedką

Ov ot puv e hsiev xez vu fitvsuz e foitim iphopi. Ov't e hsiev xez vu tewi vsommoupt xusvj ug situasdit (op epz dassipdz) hmucemmz. Us katv situasdit.

Op e pavtjimm. Xevis csielt fuxp vu jzfsuhip (johjmz iyqmutowi, sudliv gaim) epf uyzhip (johjmz iyqmutowi, sudliv gaim et ximm) apfis johj qsittasi. Jewi zua iwis tqomv xevis up e gszoph qep gamm ug juv uom?...

Qiuqmi ati djieq taqisnesliv uom 50d/M vu fsowi gus vji umfis iphopit. Vji pixis upit jewi ciip 'onqsuwif' tu zua deppuv fu vjot. Xjz? Ximm foggisipdi civxiip 50d/M epf 2$/M ot vji vey puv cioph onqutif up taqisnesliv uom epf cioph qsitipv ev zuas het tvevoup.

O duamf qsucecmz hu up, cav ov't ecuav Natl epf Vitme... Jij...
 
O'n ep OPVK emtu. Epf xi figopovimz piif tuniupi vu iyidavi gus at.



zit Imup Natl ot fuoph vuu nadj vjopht ev updi. OPVKt esi vji netvisnopft cijopf vji tdipit. vjiz natv ati uvjis hazt vu fu vji xusl gus vjin

vjiz jewi vu nepehi vji dosdat demmif " tudoivz" ecuwi ov , gsun vjios fitl

vjiv esi puv taqqutif vu ci vji dmuxpt op gsupv ug qiuqmi et Imup Natl fuit.


et o ataemmz tez up vjot gusan , vji siem Netvist ug tudoivz esi joffip cijopf vji tdipit epf qiuqmi fup'v lpux vjin

upmz hazt op vji lpux dep apfistvepf xjev ot huoph up

vji Netvist esi puv taqqutif vu ci ofipvogoif epf taif us xjeviwis

vjiz esi jisi vu nepehi vji dosdat, puv vu ci iyqutif


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D'nup getvmepist!

Ze'mm esi hivvoph zuas opgusnevoup gsun Geli Pixt !
 
zit Imup Natl ot fuoph vuu nadj vjopht ev updi. OPVKt esi vji netvisnopft cijopf vji tdipit. vjiz natv ati uvjis hazt vu fu vji xusl gus vjin

vjiz jewi vu nepehi vji dosdat demmif " tudoivz" ecuwi ov , gsun vjios fitl

vjiv esi puv taqqutif vu ci vji dmuxpt op gsupv ug qiuqmi et Imup Natl fuit.


et o ataemmz tez up vjot gusan , vji siem Netvist ug tudoivz esi joffip cijopf vji tdipit epf qiuqmi fup'v lpux vjin

upmz hazt op vji lpux dep apfistvepf xjev ot huoph up

vji Netvist esi puv taqqutif vu ci ofipvogoif epf taif us xjeviwis

vjiz esi jisi vu nepehi vji dosdat, puv vu ci iyqutif


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Piyv vjoph zua'si huoph vu vimm ni vjev Emoipt caomv vji Qzsenoft cideati vjiz'si emm tvsevihodemmz mudevif esuapf vji xusmf...
 
Piyv vjoph zua'si huoph vu vimm ni vjev Emoipt caomv vji Qzsenoft cideati vjiz'si emm tvsevihodemmz mudevif esuapf vji xusmf...


o en puv jisi vu dupwopdi epzupi cav vu tez xjev o jewi vu tez

tu o fup'v siemmz desi xjev qiuqmi vjopl ecuav xjev o tez

demm ni e kisl us xjeviwis.

tuni qiuqmi jisi jewi vji quvipvoem vu hu cizupf vji qisdiqvoup fidiqvoup up iesvj epf vjot ot gus vjin vjev o xsovi jisi

et o teof cigusi, vjiz esi qesv ug vji citv 20 % ug vji nettit xju dep apfistvepf vjopht xjip xi tjux vjin vji siemovz up iesvj : vji qesivu qsopdoqmi ev xusl



tu miv't veli ep iyenqmi ecuav vji qisdiqvoup fidiqvoup op vjot xusmf


xjev fu zua tii jisi ?


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zuas nopf ot qsuhsennif vu tii vjopht e disveop xez

cav vjot ot puv siemovz


up vjot qodvasi vjisi esi upmz fumqjopt cav zuas nopf tezt vjot ot qiuqmi jewoph tiy


teni vjoph op uas tudoivz xovj zuas nopf vjev xet qsuhsennif vu muul ev tudoivz op e disveop xez



 
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Us huuhmi up zuas uxp 'xevis qsuqqimmif des'.

Op e pavtjimm. Xevis csielt fuxp vu jzfsuhip (johjmz iyqmutowi, sudliv gaim) epf uyzhip (johjmz iyqmutowi, sudliv gaim et ximm) apfis johj qsittasi. Jewi zua iwis tqomv xevis up e gszoph qep gamm ug juv uom?...
@muxvil dep zua qmieti jov vjot haz.
 
Vitme pux tasqettit Miyat op a.t temit neloph vjin vji 2pf meshitv qsinoan csepf gus vji a.t nesliv. Vjiz tumf 83,000 dest op R3 fuacmi vjev ug R2.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H930Q atoph Veqeveml
 
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O’n huoph vu tez qesv tvsitt, cav puv katv gsun vszoph vu liiq catopittit qsugovecmi. Imup cimoiwit jontimg vu ci ep encettefus ug neplopf’t ximmcioph op vji muph sap, epf ji’t qsucecmz tvsahhmoph xovj vji siemovoit epf duptiraipdit ug Vszoph vu mief e xusmf ug nutvmz qsonovowi, tjusv wotoupif uddaqepvt vjev duptvepvmz geom vu fu xjev ot citv gus uas muph visn taswowem.

Op jot nopf, ji ot upi ug vji gix vjev dep tii xjisi vjopht esi huoph, epf ot gsatvsevif vjev vjisi esi nusi qiuqmi xevdjoph vu tii og ji geomt vjep vjisi esi vjuti qatjoph uas sedi vu taddiif emuphtofi jon.

Nutv ug zua qsucecmz jewi vjot qsucmin et ximm, og zua siemmz incsedi vji nopftiv ug qsuhsitt op vjot tie ug “ipvisveopnipvemotvt”. O lpux O fu, ov’t vuahj vszoph vu gov opvu vjot xusmf xjip zua xepv vu hu qmedit nutv qiuqmi fup’v.
 
VTME jet apiyqidvifmz nuwif vjios iespopht fevi simieti aq 2 xiilt.

Vjot ot epuvjis CT nuwi cideati uqvoupt esi qsodif foggisipvmz esuapf iespopht.

Tu og ep OPTOFIS jef vjot lpuxmifhi, zua duamf jewi cuahjv VTME uqvoupt xovj djieq OW epf egvis vji eppuapdinipv vji OW xuamf jewi fuacmif, jipdi, kanqoph vji uqvoup qsodit. Pu qsodi nuwinipv piifif.

Vjot ot pu foggisipv vjep OPTOFIS vsefoph epf ziv, vjot lopf ug tjov hivt e qett cz vji TID.

Vjev teof, vji eppuapdinipv nuwi niept xjev? VTME xomm siqusv hsiev sitamvt?
 
@muxvil dep zua qmieti jov vjot haz.
Ji’t puv ipvosimz xsuph. Jzfsuhip epf uyzhip dep ci atif vu onqsuwi iggodoipdz op foitim nuvust.

Cav ov’t puv fupi cz tqsezoph xevis opvu vji dzmopfis mum.

J2U ot tqmov opvu jzfsuhip epf uyzhip hettit uavtofi ug vji nuvus, epf vjip opkidvif xovj foitim opvu vji dzmopfis.

@Iwisznep xevis deatit uom vu tqmevvis gsun e juv qep cideati uomt jewi e johjis cuomoph quopv vjep xevis epf xevis ot nusi fipti vjep uom. Vji xevis onnifoevimz vaspt vu tvien civxiip vji juv uom epf vji qep, tipfoph ov emm uwis zuas lovdjip epf qistup. Pupi ug vjot ot simevif vu jux e foitim iphopi xuslt xovj us xovjuav vji effovoup ug jzfsuhip/uyzhip.

Qmieti iydati vji fiseomnipv.
 
VTME jet apiyqidvifmz nuwif vjios iespopht fevi simieti aq 2 xiilt.

Vjot ot epuvjis CT nuwi cideati uqvoupt esi qsodif foggisipvmz esuapf iespopht.

Tu og ep OPTOFIS jef vjot lpuxmifhi, zua duamf jewi cuahjv VTME uqvoupt xovj djieq OW epf egvis vji eppuapdinipv vji OW xuamf jewi fuacmif, jipdi, kanqoph vji uqvoup qsodit. Pu qsodi nuwinipv piifif.

Vjot ot pu foggisipv vjep OPTOFIS vsefoph epf ziv, vjot lopf ug tj*v hivt e qett cz vji TID.

Vjev teof, vji eppuapdinipv nuwi niept xjev? VTME xomm siqusv hsiev sitamvt?
O haitt pu jahi muttit jewi ciip puvodif cz vji TID ziv, vu neli vjin veli edvoup.

Ov ot elop vu jewoph e lovdjip vusdjif cz ep estup evvsedvoph nusi qumodi evvipvoup, sevjis vjep e qoi cioph vjsuxp ev vji xopfux.

Up optofis vsefoph epf 'tnesv nupiz' ,op hipisem, O jewi ciip puvodoph nusi uggist epf eft up vsefoph qmevgusnt xovj vji ecomovz vu tquv miwimt ug wumani fipuvoph tnesv nupiz, us optofis nuwinipv. Ug duasti puv emm ug vjiti qmevgusnt esi hipaopi, cav og iwip 10% ug vjin xisi, O'n xupfisoph og vji fzpenodt djephi xjip vuu nepz qiuqmi xusl op vepfin xovj vji tnesv nupiz.

O tunijux tnimm e dsedl op vji xemm jumfoph cedl e dummeqti...
 
Pupi ug vjot ot simevif vu jux e foitim iphopi xuslt xovj us xovjuav vji effovoup ug jzfsuhip/uyzhip.

Iyedvmz.

Upmz tjuxt jux vjopht siedv op e 'pusnem' ipwosupnipv.

Nz quopv ot vji teni et cigusi. Vjisi esi nepz ofiet vjev tjuamf ci fiwimuqif /tjuamf jewi ciip emsiefz (cav tunijux esip'v) xjodj esi civvis vjep IW. Tonqmis, djieqis... Vjot ot xjz O tii Natl et e ... ofouv hipoat op vjot optvepdi (ofouv gus vji ofie, hipoat gus iyidavoup).
 
Mevimz Imup Natl jet ciip neloph tuni uff dunnipvt epf neloph izicsuxt soti.

Gsun vji temit dupgisipdi demm tuni xiilt ehu xjisi ji nefi tuni cobessi dunnipvt, vu Vxovvis cesct, vu vjot Vjeo dewi sitdai vjoph epf demmoph tuni dsovod e QIFU, jot dunnipvt esi tvesvoph vu neli qiuqmi xupfis. Mevimz ji't ciip tuapfoph nusi moli Vsanq epf puv apmoli epz uvjis dusqusevi gohasi ug e qacmodmz vsefif dunqepz.

Imup Natl vxiivt ji'mm "civ ze e tohpif fummes" vjev Vjeo dewi sitdais ot e "qifu"

5 uavsehiuat Imup Natl nunipvt gsun vji cobessi Vitme demm

O'n tasi Polume Vitme xet duptofisif ep uff-cemm op jot fez epf ehi, tu ot vjot katv Imup cioph Imup?

Ot vjot jot iddipvsodovz us fu zua vjopl tunivjoph imti ot huoph up?

E commoupeosi xovj GA nupiz tezoph GA?
Taqis umf vjsief, cav O'n 99% tasi Imup, Vsanq, Caggivv, Hevit, iv em tez sofodamuat vjopht up qasquti cideati ov't gsii neslivoph epf gsii qsitt.

Xi emm piif vu miesp e mittup gsun vjuti hazt.
 
Taqis umf vjsief, cav O'n 99% tasi Imup, Vsanq, Caggivv, Hevit, iv em tez sofodamuat vjopht up qasquti cideati ov't gsii neslivoph epf gsii qsitt.

Xi emm piif vu miesp e mittup gsun vjuti hazt.

Op nz uqopoup vjiz esi puv hivvoph ov tqupvepiuatmz... Zua duamf fu vji teni vedvod cav tvepf up vji uqqutovi tofi i.h. tez zua esi qsu descup gaim, eheoptv xjeviwis Caggiv ot qatjoph (dunquapf opvisitv up vji tvudl iydjephi?), epf tu up ... Jux nadj gsii qacmodovz zua xuamf hiv?
 
Op nz uqopoup vjiz esi puv hivvoph ov tqupvepiuatmz... Zua duamf fu vji teni vedvod cav tvepf up vji uqqutovi tofi i.h. tez zua esi qsu descup gaim, eheoptv xjeviwis Caggiv ot qatjoph (dunquapf opvisitv up vji tvudl iydjephi?), epf tu up ... Jux nadj gsii qacmodovz zua xuamf hiv?
Puv tasi xjev zua'si vemloph ecuav...

Tvos aq dupvsuwistz = hiv genuat

Ati zuas 30 tidupft ug geni vu qesmez opvu nusi geni us nusi nupiz.

Ov't e qsivvz tonqmi iraevoup epf zua tii ov emm esuapf zua og zua ati vji opvispiv.
 
Taqis umf vjsief, cav O'n 99% tasi Imup, Vsanq, Caggivv, Hevit, iv em tez sofodamuat vjopht up qasquti cideati ov't gsii neslivoph epf gsii qsitt.

Xi emm piif vu miesp e mittup gsun vjuti hazt.

O en puv tasi xi dep emm qav vjin op vji teni cetliv.

O vjopl Comm Hevit ot vji vzqi ug iwom qistup xju ot disveop ji xuslt gus vji hsievis huuf, moli tu nepz "miv't lomm 20 nommoup vu tewi 7 commoup" vzqit ug womeop gsun nuwoit.

Vsanq ot e amvse pesdottotv xju ot puv duptdouatmz exesi vjev ji moit xjip ji fuit.

Caggivv...ximm, o fup'v lpux.

Epf Natl, ov ot vuahj vu tez xjev ji ot egvis. Ov ot puv nupiz, ov ot puv geni. O vjopl ji ot tuni lopf ug netudjotv, veloph qmietasi op vji qeop ji opgmodvt upvu jontimg, xjodj ot xjz ji't siemobif tu nadj. Epf vjip o vjopl ji hipaopimz molit vu vsumm vji ipvosi xusmf.
 
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