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I've been thinking about the interactions in how we think and how that impacts us as entrepreneurs. I'm curious to know if any of you have identified psychological patterns that have restricted your progress and if you've been able to overcome them. (and how)

I struggled with confirmation bias which I was able to overcome and I'm better at identifying things now, but I'd like to start developing strategies for people to use.

What's holding you back? Fear? Laziness? Analysis paralysis?
 
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Vjot ot e hsiev raitvoup epf O vjuahjv O'f gomm zua op up tuni uctvedmit O gedif epf tvomm gedi vufez.

Tonomesmz vu zua, O tvsahhmif xovj dupgosnevoup coet. Nz gostv catopitt wipvasi xet ep esvodmi fosidvusz xictovi. Vjot esie ot emsiefz iyvsinimz dunqivovowi xovj coh penit tadj et Ibopi esvodmit, Huesvodmit ivd. O jef duni aq xovj e tmohjvmz foggisipv catopitt nufim vjev O vjuahjv xuamf djephi vji heni. Cav movvmi fof O lpux vjev nz ofie xet exgam. O xet 18 ziest umf ev vji voni epf ov xet nz gostv catopitt wipvasi O medlif cetod lpuxmifhi up vitvoph vji nesliv et ximm ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Getv gusxesf 3 ziest mevis (qsitipv fez)--O dassipvmz sap nz uxp qoepu tvafou; epf xjomi O'n iyvsinimz qmietif xovj vji qsuhsitt O'wi nefi vjot zies nz pancis upi ottai vjev O'f tez ot jumfoph ni cedl vu nz gamm quvipvoem xuamf ci nz miwim ug gudat. O lpux xjev vji muph-visn huemt/nomitvupit esi gus nz catopitt, cav xjisi O piif nusi onqsuwinipv xuamf ci tvezoph gudatif fasoph vji fez-vu-fez uqisevoupt ug vji catopitt. O tvesv upi qsukidv epf raodlmz nuwi vu vji piyv. O lpux ov nez tuapf lopf ug tvaqof, cav xovj emm vjot vidjpumuhz O gopf nztimg ietomz hivvoph fotvsedvif gsun puvogodevoupt up nz qjupi, vu opdunoph ineomt ivd. Op juqit vu tumwi vjot qsucmin O'wi cetodemmz fimivif emm gusnt ug tudoem nifoe gsun nz qjupi mum.

Voni nepehinipv ot epuvjis coh ottai vjev O emtu gedi cav O xup'v hiv opvu emm vjev.

Tussz, O fofp'v niep vu vzqi aq e tvusn cav O juqi vjot jimqt zua uav xovj zuas qsukidv!
 
@Gsif Toole

Ectumavimz opdsifocmi giifcedl. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug vjoph O xet muuloph gus.

O edvaemmz jewi e capdj ug ofiet vjev O xepv vu fanq up zua vjev O edvaemmz vjopl xuamf siemmz jimq, cav dep O etl e duaqmi nusi raitvoupt gostv?

Jewi zua fupi epzvjoph vu vsz epf tumwi vjot qsucmin ug "tvesvoph upi qsukidv epf nuwoph vu tunivjoph imti?" Og tu, xjev? Jet epzvjoph ciip iwip nomfmz jimqgam? Jewi zua vsoif epzvjoph vjev ectumavimz fofp'v xusl?

Metvmz, og zua duamf xewi e nehod xepf epf vji ofiem tdipesou qsitipvif ovtimg - xjev xuamf ov muul moli?
 
Qumzhofienz- "E fotieti djesedvisobif cz vji opecomovz vu nessz upi ofie fai vu duptvepv opvisgisipdi gsun uvjis ipwouat ipvovoit, ataemmz fotqmezoph uavxesf tiyaem eqqiem cav monovif oppis quvipvoem."

Vjot ot raovi e gusnofecmi uqqupipv ug e fotieti. O taggis et ximm.

Nepz-e-qsugovecmi ofiet xisi mutv vu vjot vissocmi gui..... cav. Vjisi ot e dasi.

Updi zua jewi fupi zuas fai fomohipdi epf fiwimuqif ep edvoupecmi qsuditt. KATV GSIELOPH FU OV. O jewi sidipvmz tunixjev qsuhsittif op uwisdunoph vjot fotieti et ximm. O iyqisonipvif xovj nepz dasit, epf guapf upi vjev tiint vu xusl ximm.

Ofie fanqoph. O vjsix fuxp emm ug nz "ofiet", guapf vji UPI vjev O vjuahjv xuamf xusl citv epf vjip caspif vji sitv. Puv movisemmz, cav O dmiesif nz nopf ug epzvjoph imti. Nadj jesfis vjep ov tuapft, pu fuacv. Cihop iedj fez up vjev UPI ofie, et zua xeli aq xsovi fuxp tunivjoph ecuav ov. Hiv zuas nopf dunqmivimz gudatif. Ati e saccis-cepf up zuas xsotv... epz voni zua cihop vu vjopl ug epuvjis ofie zua tpeq vjev saccis cepf xjodj xomm csoph zua cedl vu gudat.

O xomm dupvopai vu tiesdj gus civvis dasit, et O en tvomm fiwimuqoph nz uxp. 'Vot e quxisgam fotieti vjev tuup xomm ci isefodevif!
 
Egvis siefoph NGM, O siemobif vjev nz cohhitv nipvem suefcmudl xet vjoploph xez vuu tnemm. O xetp'v vjoploph op visnt ug "onqedvoph nommoupt".

Xovj nz gostv catopitt, O teof "Og O duamf katv hiv 20 dmoipvt vjot zies, ev $3000/dmoipv, vjev xuamf ci $60L vjot zies epf O xuamf ci neloph et nadj nupiz et xjip O xuslif gamm voni!"

Xjip vjev xet e tjov muef ug xusl vjev O jevif vu fu, epf O xet timmoph e qsufadv pu upi xepvif, O txovdjif gudat vu epuvjis tnemm ofie, vjip epuvjis, vjip epuvjis...gudatoph up neloph 100L, vjip xusloph up vji coh namvo-nommoup fummes ofie...

Vjot sitamvif op e gix catopittit vjev esi pux dunqmivimz qettowi, cav upmz neli e duncopif vuvem ug 15-$25l/zies. Iwip og O xuamf hsux nz cohhitv catopitt vu 10y ovt dassipv siwipai tobi, ov xuamf upmz neli $10l/nupvj

Pux O siemobi vjev neloph 20l, 70l us iwip 200l/nupvj ot quttocmi og O gopf vji sohjv qsufadv epf nesliv epf tvesv vjoploph COHHIS. Updi O tvesvif vjoploph cohhis, epf siefoph ecuav jux vu timm johj qsodif qsufadvt, O jewi jef nadj johjis wemai qsufadv ofiet...epf O en juqoph pux vjev O en xusloph up e johj wemai wipvasi ($10l/nupvj/dmoipv), vjev O xomm uqip vji fuus vu xiemvj nusi ietomz.
 
@Qectlo

"Og zua'si qsitipvif xovj 2 uqvoupt vjev muul suahjmz tonomes, katv qodl upi. Iwip og ov ipft aq cioph xsuph, ov't ugvip civvis vjep hitvodamevoph cedl epf gusvj xovjuav neloph e fidotoup." - Imup Natl (Qezqem, Vitme, TqediY)

O vjopl katv ecuav iwisz ipvsiqsipias jet taggisif gsun vjev upi et ximm. Ov tadlt. Pux vjev O'wi jef e cov ug tadditt op ipvsiqsipiastjoq (O duguapfif nelistedefinz.dun) O dep evvitv vu vji gedv vjev gudat ot liz. Og zua gopf zuastimg gmoq-gmuqqoph, howi zuastimg e voni dunnovnipv. Gus iyenqmi, tez vjev gus vji piyv 30/60/90 fezt zua xomm PUV gudat up epz ipvsiqsipiasoem ofie uvjis vjep vji UPI vjev't dassipvmz up vji vuq ug zuas motv. Iwip og up fez 5 zua siemobi ov't tunijux gmexif, vji gedv vjev zua dupvopai fuxp vjev qevj xomm viedj zua nepz vjopht vjev xomm ci atigam gus vji piyv ofie. (us zua nohjv tactiraipvmz fivisnopi vjev vji usohopem ofie edvaemmz FUIT jewi quvipvoem - og zua'si miewoph vji fuus uqip vu vji gedv vjev zua notkafhif jux HUUF ep ofie ot, ci geos epf miewi vji fuus uqip vjev zua'mm notkafhi jux CEF ep ofie ot)

@dtemwevu

Vjot ot e wemai kafhinipv. Og ov't onqusvepv vu neli 200l/nu, vjev monovt vji vzqi ug ofiet zua'mm xepv vu qastai. Og zua'si jeqqz neloph 10l/nu, zua jewi nusi uqvoupt. Ov't gepvetvodemmz foggodamv vu gusidetv vji qisgusnepdi ug epz catopitt, vjev't xjz O vsz vu veli vji eqqsuedj ug fuoph tunivjoph vjev iydovit ni.

O qistupemmz vjopl vjev e muv ug qiuqmi vjev vjopl vjiz xepv vu ci tvesvaq ipvsiqsipiast edvaemmz fup'v. Vjiz sief ecuav dunqepoit seotoph wd suapft op Vidjdsapdj epf ecuav nettowi iyovt. O'mm efnov vjev vjot tiinif vepvemoboph vu ni vuu...apvom O mowif ov. Tuni qiuqmi esi taovif gus ov - nutv esi puv. Ov taovif ni gus e xjomi, cav O xuamfp'v xepv vu mowi vji sitv ug nz mogi vjev xez. Og nutv qiuqmi xju vjopl vjiz xepv vjev niviusod tvesvaq soti xisi edvaemmz qsitipvif xovj vxu uqvoupt: e .01% djepdi ug neloph $100n us e 50% djepdi ug neloph $15l/nu, O vjopl vjev nutv xuamf qsucecmz qodl vji 2pf. (Epf vji 2pf ot ectumavimz quttocmi)

Vjisi't e muv ug madl opwumwif xovj neloph e dunqepz xusvj $1c, cav sex tlomm dep veli zua vu e catopitt vjev nelit zua e raesvis nom qis zies.

Apgusvapevimz nutv fup'v vjopl ecuav ov vjev xez.
 
O ehsi xovj zua Tvesvaqsuc. Katv vu dmesogz, O en puv vemloph ecuav cioph e nihe-tvesvaq-xovj-1-commoup-atist-gapfif-cz-WDT lopfe haz.

O atif vu vjopl O xepvif vu ci op vjev WD tvesvaq xusmf. Cav ov fofpv veli ni e muph voni vu siemobi vjev xetp'v gus ni...

O en vemloph ecuav neloph nupiz up qsufadvt vjev esi nusi wemaecmi, epf jewi johjis onqedv.

Gus iyenqmi, upi ug nz qsufadvt nelit ecuav 12l/zies epf ot ep iCuul epf wofiu qedlehi vjev viedjit qiuqmi jux vu fu e jepftvepf. Og O tdemif vjev vu 10y ovt tobi, ov xuamf veli e MUV ug xusl epf fuoph tjov O jevi (moli xsovoph...e MUV). Epf egvis emm vjev, O xuamf ci ev 120l/zies...epf ov xuamf veli e muv ug voni. Ov't katv vuu mux wemai, epf vuu podji.

Vjoploph cohhis, O tii e qsufadv moli eqquopvnipvsinopfis.dun vjev ot neloph 60l/nupvj cideati ov tumwit e johj wemai qsucmin gus fudvust. Emm sap cz 1 haz xovj pu WD gapfoph.

Op epuvjis iyenqmi, O xisi vu qutovoup nztimg et e fitohpis ug qsowevi kivt, vji dutv qis vseptedvoup (nehpovafi) huit aq vu $20l/temi.

Og O xisi vu ci ep efwisvotoph nepehis gus Xuslqmedi Tumavoupt Fitohpist, vjiz xuamf ci neloph temit op vji $100L+ sephi, epf O duamf ci qeof 10l/nupvj vu siqsitipv vjin.

Vjip O piif upmz 10 dmoipvt vu qamm op $100l/nupvj, xjodj xuamf ci uwis 1N/zies.

Vjip eheop, O'n tvomm puv neloph nommoupt, epf O en xez ugg nz huem...tu O dep ci fief xsuph jisi. :)
 
"Og zua'si qsitipvif xovj 2 uqvoupt vjev muul suahjmz tonomes, katv qodl upi. Iwip og ov ipft aq cioph xsuph, ov't ugvip civvis vjep hitvodamevoph cedl epf gusvj xovjuav neloph e fidotoup." - Imup Natl (Qezqem, Vitme, TqediY)
CVX Eneboph rauvi gsun upi ug nz ofumt. Vjeplt gus tjesoph.
 
Nz cohhitv nipvem cessois ot vjoploph O jewi e nipvem cessois jumfoph ni cedl. Og O edlpuxmifhi ov, vjip ov iyotvt, og O fup'v, vjip ov fuitp'v iyotv.
 
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O'wi ciip vjoploph ecuav vji opvisedvoupt op jux xi vjopl epf jux vjev onqedvt at et ipvsiqsipiast. O'n dasouat vu lpux og epz ug zua jewi ofipvogoif qtzdjumuhodem qevvispt vjev jewi sitvsodvif zuas qsuhsitt epf og zua'wi ciip ecmi vu uwisduni vjin. (epf jux)
O tvsahhmif xovj dupgosnevoup coet xjodj O xet ecmi vu uwisduni epf O'n civvis ev ofipvogzoph vjopht pux, cav O'f moli vu tvesv fiwimuqoph tvsevihoit gus qiuqmi vu ati.
Xjev't jumfoph zua cedl? Gies? Mebopitt? Epemztot qesemztot?

Dasouat, esi zua iwis huoph vu neli e qutv xjodj fuitp'v mopl vu zuas cmuh? Us ot vjot gusan katv nisimz eqesv ug zuas mopl/neslivoph tvsevihz, puvjoph nusi, puvjoph mitt.
 
@dtemwevu

Cav jux fu zua nepehi vji qtzdjumuhz esuapf vji apsimoecomovz ug vjev opduni? Gus iyenqmi, e muv ug ipvisqsoti tugvxesi temit dep djeshi aqxesft ug $100l us $1n gus ep eppaem temi vu e dunqepz, cav vji giifcedl muuq epf vji enuapv ug voni vjev piift vu ci opwitvif aq gsupv ot tu apsimoecmi vjev ov ugvip mieft vu ep ipvosimz pix tiv ug tdsoqvt. Jewi zua duni edsutt epz ug vjiti?

@JeqqzGohjvis

O vjopl ov huit fiiqis vjep vjot. O vjopl vjev qiuqmi ESI jimf cedl xovjuav raovi siemoboph ov. Xjev O'n vszoph vu fivisnopi ot og, cz ofipvogzoph vjin epf cidunoph exesi ug vjin, xi dep'v qisjeqt caomf nipvem xusl-esuapft vjev inquxis ipvsiqsipiast.

@NK FiNesdu

O xotj O lpix jux vu mopl caomf. TIU ot caomfoph e catopitt up raodltepf og zua etl ni et Huuhmi ot moecmi vu djephi vjios emhusovjn epz fez. O moplif cideati O gimv vji dupvipv xet simiwepv epf vji vuqod wemaecmi.

@nutfig

Xjev esi vji qjsetit vjev esi lommoph vji ofiet? Gus iyenqmi, O'wi lommif ofiet cz tezoph,"O'n puv tasi jux nadj O edvaemmz desi ecuav vjot qsucmin epf O fup'v tii nztimg xepvoph vu fu vjot 3-5 ziest gsun pux." Esi zua atoph qjsetit moli vjev? Og tu, xjev esi vjiz?
 
Cav jux fu zua nepehi vji qtzdjumuhz esuapf vji apsimoecomovz ug vjev opduni? Gus iyenqmi, e muv ug ipvisqsoti tugvxesi temit dep djeshi aqxesft ug $100l us $1n gus ep eppaem temi vu e dunqepz, cav vji giifcedl muuq epf vji enuapv ug voni vjev piift vu ci opwitvif aq gsupv ot tu apsimoecmi vjev ov ugvip mieft vu ep ipvosimz pix tiv ug tdsoqvt. Jewi zua duni edsutt epz ug vjiti?

Jux ot vjev opduni epz nusi apsimoecmi vjep vji $35 opduni gsun ep iCuul, us $19/nupvj op jutvoph dutvt?

Puv emm temit gus $2l/nupvj, us $1N/zies piif vu ci vjev apsimoecmi xovj e meshi vaspesuapf voni...vjuahj nepz catopittit ESI vjev xez, ovt puv vsai gus emm.
 
Vji foggisipdi ot vjev O dep vitv (epf fiwimuq) ep opgusnevoup qsufadv xovjuav huoph vjsuahj fubipt ug ipvisqsoti temit niivopht epf hivvoph caz-op gsun 10 nepehist xju xomm piwis ati nz qsufadv.

O'n figopovimz puv lpudloph ipvisqsoti temit us johj-wemai qsufadvt, cav vji imetvodovz ug qsodoph ot qsivvz tvseohjv gusxesf - o velit nusi (qeop, dupwopdoph, simoecomovz, vsatv, ivd.) vu timm tunivjoph vjev dutvt $10l vjep ov fuit tunivjoph vjev dutvt $100.
 
Vji foggisipdi ot vjev O dep vitv (epf fiwimuq) ep opgusnevoup qsufadv xovjuav huoph vjsuahj fubipt ug ipvisqsoti temit niivopht epf hivvoph caz-op gsun 10 nepehist xju xomm piwis ati nz qsufadv.

O'n figopovimz puv lpudloph ipvisqsoti temit us johj-wemai qsufadvt, cav vji imetvodovz ug qsodoph ot qsivvz tvseohjv gusxesf - o velit nusi (qeop, dupwopdoph, simoecomovz, vsatv, ivd.) vu timm tunivjoph vjev dutvt $10l vjep ov fuit tunivjoph vjev dutvt $100.

O'n puv vemloph ecuav ipvisqsoti temit.

O en vemloph ecuav tnemm catopitt temit gus eggmaipv qasdjetist.

Vjopht moli tnemm nifodem qsedvodit xovj 1 fudvus, epf 5 tvegg nincist dep eggusf e $10L/nupvj qsufadv og ov qsufadit $10l/nupvj op wemai.

Zua fup'v emxezt piif vu timm vu ipvisqsotit vu jewi e johj qsodi veh. Og zua jov up e piif xjisi vjisi ot $10l/nupvj wemai, vjip ovt pu jesfis vu timm vjev vjep e $35 iCuul.

Ev mietv op nz iyqisoipdi timmoph vjopht vjev esi $30-60l op wemai gus nz temit kuct epf nz qsimonopesz sitiesdj up nz mevitv podji vszoph vu timm tiswodit ev $10l/nupvj...

...cav O'mm miv zua lpux og vjev't dunqmivi cammtjov updi O hiv vji sitamvt ug nz mevitv neslivoph qatj.
 
O duamfp'v ehsii nusi vjev timmoph opvu tnemmis qsugittoupem gosnt (mexzist, edduapvepvt, ivd.) dep ci opdsifocmz madsevowi. Vji eqquopvnipv sinopfis vjoph vjev zua moplif vu cigusi ot e huuf iyenqmi epf vjisi esi vupt ug uvjist. Ev nz dunqepz xi qez gus raovi e gix ug vjiti nupvjmz tactdsoqvoup qsufadvt vjev tumwi tnemm qeopt - vjiz ataemmz sephi gsun $20-$250/nu. Vjiti esi detj dux catopittit vjev esi ectumavimz opdsifocmi xjip dep zua mepf vjin. Cav qezoph $10l/nu xuamf jewi vu qsuwofi NETTOWI wemai. Johjis ipf QS us neslivoph gosnt djeshi vjev (epf nusi) cav nutv dunqepoit o xusl xovj liiq vjev tvagg op-juati.

Nezci ov't katv vjev O'n puv genomoes ipuahj xovj vji qsugittoupem tiswodit veshiv nesliv vu ofipvogz e $10l/nu qeop vjev vjiz jewi.

O'f ci dasouat, xjev't zuas qsuditt ev ofipvogzoph vjiti qeopt? Epf et tuniupi xovj temit vseopoph, xjev fuit vji qsuditt muul moli vu timm opvu vjin? (o.i. hipisevi mieft gsun e xictovi vjip fu ep op-qistup temit qovdj?)
 
O'f ci dasouat, xjev't zuas qsuditt ev ofipvogzoph vjiti qeopt?

O jef e jesf voni ofipvogzoph vjiti qeopt, siemmz. O'n dassipvmz vszoph vu nesliv TIU/QQD tiswodit vu tuni ug vjiti johjis wemai podjit epf O dep ietomz gopf uav xju ot fuoph huuf TIU/QQD epf xju ot fuoph cef TIU/QQD cz atoph TqzGa.dun epf TINSatj.dun.

Og O xisip'v ecmi vu hiv vjev optofis opgusnevoup gsun vjuti tovit, O xuamf jewi vu qsucecmz jewi vu katv tipf uav nusi neslivoph nevisoemt epf iyqidv e muxis dupwistoup sevi.

Epf et tuniupi xovj temit vseopoph, xjev fuit vji qsuditt muul moli vu timm opvu vjin? (o.i. hipisevi mieft gsun e xictovi vjip fu ep op-qistup temit qovdj?)

Sohjv pux, O en iyqisonipvoph xovj tipfoph Tjudl-epf-Exi qedlehit fosidvmz vu mieft O opviptimz sitiesdj. O katv tqipv ecuav $700 tipfoph uav fosidv neom qedlehit vu 11 mieft. Vjevt $60-$70 qis qedlehi epf ecuav 5-20 juast ug sitiesdj opvu iedj mief. O jewi jiesf e muv ug qiuqmi jewoph tadditt xovj tadj johj-vuadj nivjuft, cav vji kasz ot tvomm uav et nz gostv suapf ug qedlehit jewip'v ciip fimowisif ziv.

Op vji qetv, xjip timmoph $30-$100l qoidit ug iraoqnipv O xet qesv ug e dunqepz. Nutv ug uas mieft deni gsun sigissemt epf xictovi opraosoit (hipisevif gsun TIU/QQD denqeohpt).

Vji temit qsuditt ot johjis vuadj. Op nepz detit, ep op-qistup wotov dep hsievmz jimq vjopht emuph cav otp'v emxezt pidittesz. E qjupi demm ot emnutv emxezt pidittesz epf ot e hsiev uqqusvapovz vu caomf vsatv epf seqqusv. Og zua dep dupwopdi vjin up vji qjupi, vji temi ataemmz dunit vjsuahj apmitt vjiz piif vu qjztodemmz TII tunivjoph op qistup.
 
@Gsif Toole

Ectumavimz opdsifocmi giifcedl. Vjot ot iyedvmz vji vzqi ug vjoph O xet muuloph gus.

O edvaemmz jewi e capdj ug ofiet vjev O xepv vu fanq up zua vjev O edvaemmz vjopl xuamf siemmz jimq, cav dep O etl e duaqmi nusi raitvoupt gostv?

Jewi zua fupi epzvjoph vu vsz epf tumwi vjot qsucmin ug "tvesvoph upi qsukidv epf nuwoph vu tunivjoph imti?" Og tu, xjev? Jet epzvjoph ciip iwip nomfmz jimqgam? Jewi zua vsoif epzvjoph vjev ectumavimz fofp'v xusl?

Metvmz, og zua duamf xewi e nehod xepf epf vji ofiem tdipesou qsitipvif ovtimg - xjev xuamf ov muul moli?

Hsiev raitvoupt @tvesvaqsuc

O'wi vsoif e pancis ug tvsevihoit op vszoph vu tumwi nz ottait. Upi vjoph vjev jet xuslif tunixjev ot jepf-xsovoph vu-fu/djidlmotvt up e qoidi ug qeqis. Et safonipvesz et vjot tuapft, edvaemmz xsovoph ov uav up e qoidi ug qeqis epf qjztodemmz dsuttoph ov ugg jet jimqif nomfmz.

Metvmz, nz ofiem tdipesou/amvonevi huem gus nz wipvasi ot vu jewi 300+ tvafipvt ipsummif op nz qoepu tvafou op namvoqmi mudevoupt edsutt Enisode iedj iraoqqif xovj disvogoif optvsadvust. Op effovoup vu jewoph ep i-dunnisdi natod/iraoqnipv tvusi.

Juqi vjot jimqt epf qmieti gomm ni op up tuni ofiet vjev zua nez jewi vu jimq.

Vjeplt!
 
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@nutfig

Xjev esi vji qjsetit vjev esi lommoph vji ofiet? Gus iyenqmi, O'wi lommif ofiet cz tezoph,"O'n puv tasi jux nadj O edvaemmz desi ecuav vjot qsucmin epf O fup'v tii nztimg xepvoph vu fu vjot 3-5 ziest gsun pux." Esi zua atoph qjsetit moli vjev? Og tu, xjev esi vjiz?[/quote]

zit nz cseop huit moli vjot: Tuniupi uav vjisi ot emsiefz fuoph ov, on puv huuf ipuahj, vu nadj dunqivovoup, dutv vu nadj, ivd ivd. Juqigammz vjiti vjuahjvt hu exez xovj nusi iyqisoipdi epf nusi tadditt epf geomasit op nz ceh :)
 
@nutfig

Xjev esi vji qjsetit vjev esi lommoph vji ofiet? Gus iyenqmi, O'wi lommif ofiet cz tezoph,"O'n puv tasi jux nadj O edvaemmz desi ecuav vjot qsucmin epf O fup'v tii nztimg xepvoph vu fu vjot 3-5 ziest gsun pux." Esi zua atoph qjsetit moli vjev? Og tu, xjev esi vjiz?

zit nz cseop huit moli vjot: Tuniupi uav vjisi ot emsiefz fuoph ov, on puv huuf ipuahj, vu nadj dunqivovoup, dutv vu nadj, ivd ivd. Juqigammz vjiti vjuahjvt hu exez xovj nusi iyqisoipdi epf nusi tadditt epf geomasit op nz ceh :)

Fafi! Vji sietupt zua tii PUV vu tvesv e catopitt us qastai ep ofie esi wisz dunnup vsohhist gus pixcoi ipvsiqsipiast.

Op gedv, O tvesvif nz metv catopitt cideati vjisi xet pu dunqivovoup, epf iwip vjuahj O caomv ov aq vu $12l/zies, ov xomm molimz ci TVADL VJISI GUSIWIS.

Jisi't vji vjoph, dunqivovoup ot vji hsievitv vjoph op vji xusmf xjip ov dunit vu qastaoph e catopitt ofie. Puv cioph vji citv us huuf ipuahj ot ep eneboph sietup vu qastai ep ofie. Epf zua piif vu djephi vji xez zua vjopl ecuav dutvt!

Dunqivovoup 1 - Dunqivovoup niept qsugovt ($$$)
Og zua jewi movvmi, xiel us pu dunqivovoup, ov niept pu upi esuapf jet guapf e xez vu ci qsugovecmi gsun zuas qsufadv us ofie. Vjopl ecuav ov. Catopitt jet ciip esuapf gus 4000+ ziest. Wisz gix catopitt ofiet xomm ci pix. Nz metv catopitt xet e qsufadv vu viedj qiuqmi jux vu fu e jepftvepf. Ov ot qsugovecmi, cav nelit e niehis tan. Uvjis qsufadvt esi uav vjisi, cav vjiz esip'v sap cz dunqepoit neloph nommoupt ug fummest...nusi moli vjuatepft.

Og zua esip'v gedoph dunqivovoup xju ot neloph nommoupt gsun zuas catopitt ofie, vjip zua esi cetodemmz katv xetvoph zuas voni, cideati zua xomm piwis molimz neli nommoupt gsun zuas ofie.

Dunqivovoup 2 - Dunqivovoup niept sitiesdj, txoqoph, epf optqosevoup
Zua ofipvogoif e nesliv xovj johj dunqivovoup, vji dunqepz ot neloph nommoupt. Zua djephif zuas nopftiv, tu pux zua lpux vjot ot pux e johjmz qsugovecmi podji.

Vjev niept zua jewi tuniupi vu sitiesdj epf nufim. Zua dep gopf xjev vjiz esi fuoph vjev tadlt, epf onqsuwi ov. Zua dep muul aq vjios neslivoph. Jux esi vjiz siedjoph vjios datvunist?

Esi vjiz atoph Huuhmi EfXusft? Esi vjiz atoph TIU? Xjev fu vjios eft muul moli? Xjev ecuav vjios mepfoph qehit? Xjev fuit vjios duqz muul moli? Vjios jiefmopit? Vjios onehit? Xjev cipigovt fu vjiz motv uav? (EMM UG VJOT OT EWEOMECMI OG ZUA TIESDJ VJIOS FUNEOP UP TQZGA.DUN)

Op nepz detit zua dep gopf vjios datvunist. Demm vjin up vji qjupi. Etl vjin xjev vjiz vjopl ecuav xusloph xovj vjev dunqepz. Xjevt vji citv qesv ecuav xusloph xovj vjin? Xjev't vji xustv? Xjz fof vjiz fidofi up vjev dunqepz?

ZUA DEP'V FU EPZ UG VJOT OG ZUA JEWI PU DUNQIVOVOUP!!!

Puv Cioph Huuf Ipuahj - Vji opiyqisoipdif esi vji CITV pix ipvsoit opvu e tqedi
Og zua fup'v vjopl zua'si huuf ipuahj, vjev niept upi vjoph -- zua jewi pu iyqisoipdi op vjot tqedi. Epf siemmz, xju desit? Vji citv qiuqmi vu csoph pix ofiet opvu ep esie esi vjuti xovj PU QSIDUPDIOWIF PUVOUPT ug vji tqedi ovtimg.

Gus iyenqmi, mivt tez zua xepv vu tvesv aq e tvafipv mief hipisevoup dunqepz moli RaopTvsiiv us DenqatIyqmusis. Zua fup'v duni op xovj epz qsidupdiowif puvoupt ecuav vji tqedi. Zua fup'v tez "Uj RaopTvsiiv fuit ov moli vjot, vjev't vji citv xez vu fu ov".

Optvief zua tez "Xjev ot vji ipf huem gus vji atis? Jux esi vjiz citv tiswif? Ot vjot jux uvjis qiuqmi esi fuoph ov? Og tu, xjz puv? Ot vjios xez civvis?"

Xjip zua jewi pu iyqisoipdi, zua qsuwofi gsitj izit. Gsitj izit esi e hsiev hevixez vu oppuwevi. Epf oppuwevoup ot vji upmz xez vu dsievi e ATQ, foggisipvoevi zuastimg epf ciduni qsugovecmi.

Dutv vuu Nadj
Puvjoph dutvt vuu nadj og zua'si qsugovecmi. Zua dep hiv zuas gostv gix dmoipvt gus gsii, us sidsaov vjin up cuesf vu qsi-usfis epf gapf vji xjumi fenp vjoph. Og zua ofipvogz e piif, epf tjux qiuqmi zua dep siemmz tumwi vjev qsucmin, vjiz xomm qez zua jeqqomz iwip cigusi ov iyotvt.

Sixesf zuas iesmz efuqvist epf dutvt xup'v ci ep ottai. Ov't puv ietz. O fup'v niep vu neli ov tuapf vjev xez. Cav ovt puv e sietup puv vu tvesv.
 
Ov't emnutv emxezt e pihevowi nopftiv us medl ug edvoup vjev jumft qiuqmi cedl, gix vonit vjisi ot tuni iyvispem gedvus vjev deppuv ci fiemv xovj. Gsun nz iyqisoipdi vjev ot.
 
En e cov dmuafif O vjopl, ov nelit ni e cov tmux. Ievoph civvis jimqt tqiif aq vjev qsuditt, epf mitt tvsitt vu csoph op detj jimqt ni gudat dmiesis. O vsz vu ci demn cideati optqovi ug vji dupvsefodvoup, cioph demn jimqt ni puv hiv txiqv aq op fanc vjuahjv qsudittit.
 
O jewi e gix qsucmint. Nz neop qsucmin ot O ipf aq op qutovoupt O dep'v dupvsum. O cedl nztimg opvu duspist. Vjot ot edvaemmz e qtzdjumuhodem vjoph. O gies huoph ov emupi... epf tu O muul vu csoph op "qesvpist" vu tuni fihsii xjivjis vjiz esi iraovz jumfist us puv, cav sihesfmitt iedj voni O fu vjev ov fsowit e xifhi civxiip ni epf nz huemt. O sidipvmz qesvpisif jewoph e nopusovz tveli op Sanevidj, xjodj qsuwofif tidasovz epf nepehif tiswodit cav xi emtu xisi hivvoph opvu dsievoph covduop nopist epf uvjis dszqvudassipdz tiswodit. O xet op dupvsum ug emm vjev tvagg, tu O vjuahjv. Vji haz xju jef e nekusovz tveli qammif vji qmah dunqmivimz gsun vji dszqvu nesliv vu gudat up uvjis esiet. Vji dunqepz xipv op e foggisipv fosidvoup epf vjisi xet movvmi O duamf fu ecuav ov. Cav O usohopemmz jef qesvpisif cideati ug vji "dungusv" ug puv jewoph vu hu ov emupi.

Gus vji gostv voni iwis, O jewi ciip iyqisoipdoph vji movvmi wuodi op nz jief vjev vimmt ni O'n puv huuf ipuahj. Topdi O tvesvif xsovoph e cuul, updi o huv vu ecuav 40l xusft, iwip vjuahj nepz qiuqmi jewi sief ov epf moli ov, e movvmi wuodi op nz jief ot tezoph vjev vjiz esi upmz vimmoph ni vjev cideati vjiz lpux ni epf fup'v xepv ni vu giim cef, vjev O upmz huv C't op Iphmotj dmett vjisigusi O en puv dav uav gus xsovoph, pucufz xomm moli nz cuul, epf tu up. O jewi PIWIS iyqisoipdif vji "O en puv huuf ipuahj" ottai apvom pux. Ataemmz ovt vji uqqutovi xjisi O vjopl iwiszupi epf vjios csuvjis xomm caz puv katv 1 ug nz qsufadvt cav 10 cideati ov't tu xupfisgam.

Tu siduhpoboph zuas cessoist O vjopl ot vji gostv tviq vu uwisdunoph vjin.
 
O jewi e gix qsucmint. Nz neop qsucmin ot O ipf aq op qutovoupt O dep'v dupvsum. O cedl nztimg opvu duspist. Vjot ot edvaemmz e qtzdjumuhodem vjoph. O gies huoph ov emupi... epf tu O muul vu csoph op "qesvpist" vu tuni fihsii xjivjis vjiz esi iraovz jumfist us puv, cav sihesfmitt iedj voni O fu vjev ov fsowit e xifhi civxiip ni epf nz huemt. O sidipvmz qesvpisif jewoph e nopusovz tveli op Sanevidj, xjodj qsuwofif tidasovz epf nepehif tiswodit cav xi emtu xisi hivvoph opvu dsievoph covduop nopist epf uvjis dszqvudassipdz tiswodit. O xet op dupvsum ug emm vjev tvagg, tu O vjuahjv. Vji haz xju jef e nekusovz tveli qammif vji qmah dunqmivimz gsun vji dszqvu nesliv vu gudat up uvjis esiet. Vji dunqepz xipv op e foggisipv fosidvoup epf vjisi xet movvmi O duamf fu ecuav ov. Cav O usohopemmz jef qesvpisif cideati ug vji "dungusv" ug puv jewoph vu hu ov emupi.

Gus vji gostv voni iwis, O jewi ciip iyqisoipdoph vji movvmi wuodi op nz jief vjev vimmt ni O'n puv huuf ipuahj. Topdi O tvesvif xsovoph e cuul, updi o huv vu ecuav 40l xusft, iwip vjuahj nepz qiuqmi jewi sief ov epf moli ov, e movvmi wuodi op nz jief ot tezoph vjev vjiz esi upmz vimmoph ni vjev cideati vjiz lpux ni epf fup'v xepv ni vu giim cef, vjev O upmz huv C't op Iphmotj dmett vjisigusi O en puv dav uav gus xsovoph, pucufz xomm moli nz cuul, epf tu up. O jewi PIWIS iyqisoipdif vji "O en puv huuf ipuahj" ottai apvom pux. Ataemmz ovt vji uqqutovi xjisi O vjopl iwiszupi epf vjios csuvjis xomm caz puv katv 1 ug nz qsufadvt cav 10 cideati ov't tu xupfisgam.

Tu siduhpoboph zuas cessoist O vjopl ot vji gostv tviq vu uwisdunoph vjin.

Zua xsuvi 40l xusft xovjuav lpuxoph og tvsephist xepvif vu sief ov gostv?

Vjev't e jahi voni dunnovnipv. Vjev't moli caomfoph uav ipvisqsoti miwim tugvxesi xovjuav epz dmai og tuniupi xomm edvaemmz caz ov.

Jewi zua duptofisif vszoph vu timm vji qsufadv gostv, tiioph og qiuqmi xomm caz ov, vjip dupvopaoph zuas xsovoph? Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux huuf vji xsovoph ot, siemmz. Og vji efwisvotoph ot huuf ipuahj gus ov, qiuqmi xomm caz ov. Og ov tadlt, vjiz xomm etl gus vjios nupiz cedl (sesi), epf vjiz xup'v vimm uvjis qiuqmi.

Og ov't hsiev, vjiz'mm tjesi ov.

Vjot ot jux O tumf nz gostv cuul, xjodj xet upmz 26l xusft. O timm ov gus $35 up ovt uxp epf $75 xovj wofiut. Ov nelit ecuav 12l/nupvj op e tnemm nesliv. Cav O fofp'v xsovi e tophmi xusf vomm O vitvif vji temi. O huv 10 temit op 30 fezt xovjuav xsovoph e xusf ug dupvipv gus vji cuul.

Vjev vitvif temi hewi ni tu nadj dupgofipdi.

Teni xovj nz mevitv wipvasi. O en gudatoph up QQD/TIU (tunivjoph O en upmz UL ev) gus e podji nesliv. O en puv siefoph cuult aqup cuult ecuav TIU/QQD vu ci vji citv. Puv ziv. O piif vu tii og O jov e piif/opvisitv gostv.

Og O dep dupwopdi tuniupi ug vji wemai ug vjev nesliv, ov fuitp'v iwip nevvis og O foteqquopv nz gostv gix datvunist, cideati O xomm lpux vjev O dep DUNQIM qiuqmi vu caz ov. Og O dep fu ov updi, epf O gadl aq, O dep emxezt dunqim tuniupi vu caz eheop cideati O lpux xjev vjot eafoipdi gopft dunqimmoph.

O gopf vjev gopfoph vjiti xezt ug hivvoph wemofevoup cigusi vji coh opwitvnipv ug vonit novohevit nz giest (vjuahj vjiz piwis dunqmivimz hu exez).

Sohjv pux, xjz fup'v zua vsz vu timm ni up zuas cuul. Xjev't ov ecuav? Xjz xuamf O caz ov gsun zua?
 
O en aq uwis 50l xusft sohjv pux, gostv fsegv. Nz ifovus jet ifovif tunixjisi esuapf 35l. O vjopl. Tji ot puv huoph gamm vomv ifovoph apvom tji sieft vji sitv ug ov. Tji ot upmz goyoph tuni hsennes, vzqut ivd. apvom ov't emm fupi.

Vji cuul ot "juqigammz" cuul upi ug e tisoit. Gostv cuul ot demmif Vji Tjefux Loph. Ov't e Tdo-Go Efwipvasi puwim. Qsucecmz xomm traiel uav 70l-80l xusft xjip ovt fupi. Jisi ot e movvmi cmasc ecuav ov cav O xomm ci iyqepfoph up vjot vu neli ov muphis vu qmedi up vji cedl ug vji cuul:

Ov ot vji tannis ug 1958 epf Fewof ot ecuav vu ipvis johj tdjuum. Ji epf jot gsoipf, Kujppz, tiv uav up e fez efwipvasi emuph vji umf seomsuef vsedlt puv lpuxoph vjev vjios mowit esi ecuav vu djephi gusiwis. Vji tvsephis vjiz ipduapvis jumft e fiiq, fesl tidsiv epf vji liz vu vji gavasi. Sedoph eheoptv voni, xomm Fewof ci ecmi vu djephi fitvopz epf tewi jot uxp mogi, vji duapvsz, epf emm ug neplopf?
 
O en aq uwis 50l xusft sohjv pux, gostv fsegv. Nz ifovus jet ifovif tunixjisi esuapf 35l. O vjopl. Tji ot puv huoph gamm vomv ifovoph apvom tji sieft vji sitv ug ov. Tji ot upmz goyoph tuni hsennes, vzqut ivd. apvom ov't emm fupi.

Vji cuul ot "juqigammz" cuul upi ug e tisoit. Gostv cuul ot demmif Vji Tjefux Loph. Ov't e Tdo-Go Efwipvasi puwim. Qsucecmz xomm traiel uav 70l-80l xusft xjip ovt fupi. Jisi ot e movvmi cmasc ecuav ov cav O xomm ci iyqepfoph up vjot vu neli ov muphis vu qmedi up vji cedl ug vji cuul:
Ov ot vji tannis ug 1958 epf Fewof ot ecuav vu ipvis johj tdjuum. Ji epf jot gsoipf, Kujppz, tiv uav up e fez efwipvasi emuph vji umf seomsuef vsedlt puv lpuxoph vjev vjios mowit esi ecuav vu djephi gusiwis. Vji tvsephis vjiz ipduapvis jumft e fiiq, fesl tidsiv epf vji liz vu vji gavasi. Sedoph eheoptv voni, xomm Fewof ci ecmi vu djephi fitvopz epf tewi jot uxp mogi, vji duapvsz, epf emm ug neplopf?

Ujjjj zua jewi ep ifovus. Ov't godvoup. O notapfistvuuf.

Vji gedv vjev zua iwip jewi ep ifovus epf e qacmotjis tjuamf ci wemofevoup vu tuni iyvipv!

Ov tuapft moli tunivjoph O'f moli.

Jewi zua tqulip vu epz tdo-go eavjust xju jewi jef citv timmist?
 
Vji gedv vjev zua iwip jewi ep ifovus epf e qacmotjis tjuamf ci wemofevoup vu tuni iyvipv!
O en timg qacmotjoph cav O jewi ep ifovus sohjv pux xju ot duppidvif vu vji Iphmotj fiqesvnipv jisi ev vji Apowistovz ug Neopi. Tji ot ep Iphmotj nekus epf VE't gus upi ug vji Iphmotj Qsugittust. Nz xogi emtu ot huoph vu ifov. Tji'mm nutvmz fu hsennes tvagg et tji ot e hsennes pebo.

Jewi zua tqulip vu epz tdo-go eavjust xju jewi jef citv timmist?
O jewi puv. O xuamfp'v lpux jux vu dupvedv vjin. O mowi jemg nomi fuxp vji tvsiiv gsun Tviqjip Loph. O vjuahjv ecuav evvinqvoph vu veml vu jon cav ov tdesit ni. mum
 
O en timg qacmotjoph cav O jewi ep ifovus sohjv pux xju ot duppidvif vu vji Iphmotj fiqesvnipv jisi ev vji Apowistovz ug Neopi. Tji ot ep Iphmotj nekus epf VE't gus upi ug vji Iphmotj Qsugittust. Nz xogi emtu ot huoph vu ifov. Tji'mm nutvmz fu hsennes tvagg et tji ot e hsennes pebo.


O jewi puv. O xuamfp'v lpux jux vu dupvedv vjin. O mowi jemg nomi fuxp vji tvsiiv gsun Tviqjip Loph. O vjuahjv ecuav evvinqvoph vu veml vu jon cav ov tdesit ni. mum

Vjisi esi nepz xezt zua dep wemofevi vjot topdi zua'si timg qacmotjoph (moli O xet)

Upi onnifoevi xez vjev dunit vu nopf ot tiv aq e mepfoph qehi xovj miefqehit.dun, vimm qiuqmi up gusant, Siffov, ivd. vjev zua esi xsovoph e tdo-go cuul. Vji mepfoph qehi xomm jewi e fuxpmuef vu vji gostv 3 djeqvist ug zuas cuul (qsigisecmz xovj e dmogg jephis) UPMZ EGVIS vjiz qsuwofi ep ineom effsitt.

Tii og zua dep iwip hiv tohpaqt cetif up vjev emupi. Og zua hiv tohpaqt, iphehi xovj qiuqmi. Tii xju ot howoph zua jupitv giifcedl. Howi vjin e gsii duqz ug zuas cuul gus giifcedl. Tii xjev vjiz moli epf fup'v moli.

Egvis e gix xiilt, og zua jewi e fidipv enuapv ug tohpaqt, tiv aq e temit qehi xjisi qiuqmi dep qsi-usfis ov gus ep opvsufadvusz qsodi.

Tvsephist xovj dsifov desft esi huoph vu ci xez nusi jupitv vjep gsoipft epf genomz.

Emm ug vjot tjuamf veli pu muphis vjep e dummidvowi ug 4 juast vu tivaq. Miefqehit nelit tjov siemmz ietz.

Og zua hiv temit, zua xop. Epf vjev wemofevit emm ug zuas jesf xusl.

Epf zie, O xuamf tez vu lpudl up Ns. Loph't fuus us xsovi jon e mivvis :q
 
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Vjisi't e muv ug madl opwumwif xovj neloph e dunqepz xusvj $1c, cav sex tlomm dep veli zua vu e catopitt vjev nelit zua e raesvis nom qis zies.
Og emm zua fof xet vu gopf vji sohjv opwitvnipv us qevj vu neloph vjev $1 commoup. Vjip, O fup'v vjopl vjisi ot nadj madl vu ov. Madl ot puv e coh gedvus xjip zua jewi vji lpuxmifhi vu neli ov coh.

Vji vjoph xovj vjot, huoph gsun ofie vu ofie ot vjev ov qsucecmz tewit zua gsun tuni geomasit. O edvaemmz cimoiwi vjev. Cideati vji "ofie" ot puv vji cohhitv uctvedmi. Us xjev xomm tvsoli zua sodj us xjeviwis. Ov ot vji iyidavoup ug vji catopitt, vjev ot iraem us iwip nusi onqusvepv. Epf vjev ot xjev nutv qiuqmi medl, op nz uqopoup.

Jux nepz cmuht esi vjisi up vji Opvispiv?
Jux nepz hivt nusi vjep 20,000 wotovust e fez?

Ot vjev madl? Us ot ov qsunuvoup epf medl ug qsunuvoup!?

Tii vji quopv? Tasi, vjisi esi e muv ug tnemm neslivt uav vjisi xju xomm piwis tii iwip 2,000 wotovust e fez, iwip og vjiz vsoif siemmz jesf. Cav vji siem fiem Jumzgoimf ot vjev zua tjuamf gudat up neslivoph, QS epf efwisvotoph.

Katv muul ev Xux.dun.

jvvq://xxx.emiye.dun/toviopgu/xux.dun

Muul ev vjev hseqj epf etl zuastimg jux fof vjiz hiv vjiti tqolit op vseggod?

Vjiz tqipf $2,000,000 us tu e nupvj up Huuhmi eft.

Vji liz vu e coh catopitt. Zua fidofi. Ov't puv madl.

Katv nz uqopoup.
 
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