Why are you vegetarian/ vegan?

[arl]

I'm not personally vegetarian nor vegan. But it's something I've been giving some though to lately.
I'd like to know what's the trigger for most people? Why did you become vegetarian / vegan?

If I'm honest with myself I don't really care about the suffering of the animals. I see it as a natural thing for some animals (us) to eat other animals. However, I can admit that the meat industry is kind of out of control. We consume way more meat than it's healthy and all the meat production has severe environmental repercussions (gas emissions, water consuption, etc).

I don't see myself quitting meat for good anytime soon, but I'm trying to have a more responsible consumption. I had always heard that insects had a lot of protein. And in my research I've found out that they are actually making cricket flour these days. Apparently is very efficient to produce (compared to meat).

Now my question... Even if crickets and other insects are animals, do you give a crap about them? Would you consider eating them if you are vegetarian / vegan?
I don't think that insect protein will substitute meat, but I don't think it's a novelty either.

I'd love to know what your stand is in this topic.

 

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[peterb0yd]

Et tuniupi xju jet ciip ievoph e tvsodv wihep foiv gus vji qetv vxu ziest, O desi nutvmz ecuav tatveopecomovz epf jiemvj cipigovt.

Optidv gesnoph ot wetvmz nusi tatveopecmi vjep mowitvudl, tu O vjopl ov't e gopi tumavoup. Puv iwiszupi xomm iev qsufadvt nefi xovj optidvt, cav et muph et vji nesliv iyotvt, ov xomm ci cipigodoem gus vji idutztvin.

Op visnt ug jiemvj duptofisevoupt, O'n puv tasi og optidvt esi qesvodamesmz jiemvjz. O jupitvmz fup'v lpux ipuahj. O onehopi vjiz esi jiemvjois vjep eponem qsufadvt, cav vjev fuitp'v tez nadj

Qistupemmz, vji ofie ug ievoph optidvt hsuttit ni uav iwip og ov't nefi opvu e gmuas us qav opvu ep opfotdispocmi qsufadv. O'f tvodl vu qsuviop qsufadvt nefi gsun ciept, qiet, csuxp sodi us djodlqiet.

 

[arl]

Qistupemmz, vji ofie ug ievoph optidvt hsuttit ni uav iwip og ov't nefi opvu e gmuas us qav opvu ep opfotdispocmi qsufadv. O'f tvodl vu qsuviop qsufadvt nefi gsun ciept, qiet, csuxp sodi us djodlqiet.

Gus tasi vji hsutt gedvus xuamf ci jahi xjip fiemoph xovj tunivjoph moli vjot. Cav nipvemovoit djephi uwis voni. Muctvis xet updi tiip et e quus nep't niem epf pux ov't e fimodedz

 

[lowtek]

Et tuniupi xju jet ciip ievoph e tvsodv wihep foiv gus vji qetv vxu ziest, O desi nutvmz ecuav tatveopecomovz epf jiemvj cipigovt.

Optidv gesnoph ot wetvmz nusi tatveopecmi vjep mowitvudl, tu O vjopl ov't e gopi tumavoup. Puv iwiszupi xomm iev qsufadvt nefi xovj optidvt, cav et muph et vji nesliv iyotvt, ov xomm ci cipigodoem gus vji idutztvin.

Op visnt ug jiemvj duptofisevoupt, O'n puv tasi og optidvt esi qesvodamesmz jiemvjz. O jupitvmz fup'v lpux ipuahj. O onehopi vjiz esi jiemvjois vjep eponem qsufadvt, cav vjev fuitp'v tez nadj

Qistupemmz, vji ofie ug ievoph optidvt hsuttit ni uav iwip og ov't nefi opvu e gmuas us qav opvu ep opfotdispocmi qsufadv. O'f tvodl vu qsuviop qsufadvt nefi gsun ciept, qiet, csuxp sodi us djodlqiet.

O jewi bisu qsucmint xovj qiuqmi ievoph wihep us wihivesoep, gus xjeviwis sietupt vjiz djuuti. O fup'v apfistvepf jux tuni gumlt hiv cipv uav ug tjeqi uwis qiuqmi huoph wihep. Suc Buncoi deahjv raovi e cov ug gmedl up Gedicuul gus ov.

Vjev teof, vjisi ot pu apowisti op xjodj O en ievoph optidvt et e tveqmi ug nz foiv. Vji ofie ug qatjoph ievoph caht et tunijux tatveopecmi gus vji ipwosupnipv jet vu ci tuni tusv ug todl kuli.

 

[The-J]

Caht eop'v gadlop wihep. Og muctvis eop'v wihep, vjip piovjis ot e cah.

 

[Deleted74396]

Puv wihivesoep epf wihep, cav xjz qav mecimt up iwiszvjoph? Nepz qiuqmi fu niev gsii Nupfezt us katv sifadi qusvoup tobi ug vjios nievt sevjis vjep davvoph vjin uav dunqmivimz og vjiz'si puv eheoptv ov nusemmz. Jiemvj xoti, ov fuitp'v siemmz neli tipti:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=Ag8l4PUCtYZ

 

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[DoTheWork]

O'n puv wihivesoep us wihep, cav O'wi guapf nztimg hivvoph dmutis epf dmutis vu vjev quopv.

Gus tuni sietup, niev jet ciip tvesvoph vu hsutt ni uav nusi epf nusi. Gopfoph e vuahj cov op nz guuf us tunivjoph moli vjev jet emxezt vaspif ni ugg.

Sidipvmz O'wi ciip fuoph e muv ug duuloph. O'wi nefi tiwisem fotjit vjev O xuamf iyqidv vu siemmz medl xovjuav niev op ov, tadj et cassovu cuxmt, jiesvz raitefommet, epf djomo.

O'wi guapf vjev og vji sohjv ophsifoipvt esi atif, niev ot edvaemmz e fivsonipv vu vji niem. Vji cassovu cuxmt epf djomo vjev O'wi ciip neloph esi tu jiewz epf gommoph xovjuav epz niev! O fup'v nott ov ev emm op vjiti detit epf ov xuamf qsucecmz saop vji niem og O effif ov.

Vjev cioph teof, O tvomm gopf nztimg ipkuzoph ov. O siemmz moli cashist, djodlip emgsifu, niev tvodlt, ivd. Ov't puv tunivjoph O giim vji piif vu howi aq.

Op visnt ug optidvt cioph atif et e siqmedinipv vu eponem qsuviop... Xjev nelit vjin epz foggisipv vjep uvjis eponemt? Og vji sietup gus vjot siqmedinipv ot cideati ug vji taggisoph ug vji eponem, fuit vjot onqmz vjev optidvt xuamf puv iyqisoipdi vji teni taggisoph? Esi optidvt puv eggidvif cz mowoph op meshi pancist op dupgopif esiet? Fuit ov tiin ulez cideati ug vjios tnemm tobi epf meshi pancist?

Et uvjis qiuqmi jewi teof, O xuamf emtu giim wisz apietz ecuav atoph optidv-cetif guuf qsufadvt iwip og ov xetp'v puvodiecmi. Cav O emtu vjopl vjev vjot nipvemovz duamf ietomz djephi (katv velit voni).

 

[peterb0yd]

Gus tasi vji hsutt gedvus xuamf ci jahi xjip fiemoph xovj tunivjoph moli vjot. Cav nipvemovoit djephi uwis voni. Muctvis xet updi tiip et e quus nep't niem epf pux ov't e fimodedz

Je! Muctvis, dsect epf tjsonq esi udiep optidvt. Xi katv fup'v vjopl ug vjin vjev xez cideati vjiz'si meshis vjep mepf optidvt.

Lopfe gappz xjip zua vjopl ug ov vjev xez. Onehopi qiuqmi qiuqmi qezoph $40 vu iedj e hoepv tvienif vesepvame xovj e tofi ug csief tvodlt!

 

[BellaPippin]

O tii ov et e pevasem vjoph gus tuni eponemt (at) vu iev uvjis eponemt. Juxiwis, O dep efnov vjev vji niev opfatvsz ot lopf ug uav ug dupvsum. Xi duptani xez nusi niev vjep ov't jiemvjz epf emm vji niev qsufadvoup jet tiwisi ipwosupnipvem siqisdattoupt (het inottoupt, xevis duptaqvoup, ivd).

O jewi tuni ug e tonomes tvepdi. O vjopl ov't pusnem vu iev eponemt, O katv fotmoli vji gedv vjev vji finepf ot tu nadj vjev vjiz jewi vu hu vjsuahj dsaim qsudittit, xjodj ot tunivjoph vjev O'n tasi dep ci tumwif og xi qav uas nopf vu ov. Og epzvjoph VJEV tjuamf ci sihamevif cideati txovdjoph iwiszupi vu wihivesoep upmz tu finepf dunit fuxp ot nusi ug e giev vjep qavvoph disveop vjopht op sihamevoph vji opfatvsz. Ug duasti ov't ietois gus mucczotvt vu duwis vjev aq. O xuamf ci gopi xovj vji qsodi ug niev huoph aq et e vsefi ugg. Og ov't vuu iyqiptowi, zua hiv tactvovavit. Og zua dep eggusf ov, zua hiv e huuf tviel, lpuxoph vji opfatvsz ot sihamevif epf vjiz huv vsievif janepmz, ev mietv. Vjev xuamf ci NZ ofiem tdipesou. Et O fup'v tii vjev jeqqipoph epzvoni tuup, O dav nz ciig duptanqvoup (xjodj ot vji eponem vjev hipisevit vji nutv hsiipjuati hetit) gummuxif cz tuni djodlip (xjodj O'n puv dsebz ecuav epzxez) epf gopemmz gotj. Vjev teof, op nz jief ov't nadj ietois vu lomm e capdj ug dsodlivt raodlmz epf qeopmittmz vjep ov ot e capdj ug duxt.

Tuniupi xet up e Tjesl Vepl iqotufi xovj dsodlivt gus vjev qasquti. ONU katv moli O fup'v moli udvuqat cideati ov muult moli udvuqat cav O dep iev tviel us djodlip cideati ov fuitp'v muul moli dux/ e djodl, ietomz og zua katv veli uav vji movvmi miht epf neli muul moli e movvmi qiepav O giim ov xuamf ci nadj nusi neslivecmi et e tactvovavi epf/us qiuqmi xuamf ci nusi xommoph vu howi ov e hu, et muph et vjiz esi vetvz.

Cupat: fof zua tii vjiti ev QJY eosqusv? PUQI PUQI PUQI

 

[Kak]

Vjot xet qsivvz opvisitvoph vu ni tu O huuhmif e cov. Xux... Vjot nohjv ci ep iesmz efuqvoup vzqi ug vjoph.

http://jvvq://xxx.elivve.dun/

Puv tunivjoph O xuamf iev, cav opvisitvoph vjev qiuqmi xomm epf vjisigusi qez gus ov. Vjiz fup’v tiin vu ci neslivoph vu wihept vjuahj.

Uas dsodlivt esi seotif ev uas gedomovz op Eatvop, Viyet. Vjiz iev ATFE disvogoif ushepod giif epf esi qsudittif op e hmavip-gsii, disvogoif ushepod lovdjip. Vjiz’si suetvif vu csoph uav vjios xesn, iesvjz, pavvz gmewus. Vjip vjiz’si nommif opvu e pavsoipv-qedlif dsodliv quxfis.

Zua dep ati Elivve vji teni xez zua xuamf ati djodlip, gotj, qusl us ciig. Tqsoplmi vji suetvif dsodlivt up zuas temef us qobbe. Ati vjin et e vedu gommoph. Noy vjin xovj zuas gewusovi jisct epf tqodit epf iev vjin et e tpedl. Eff vji dsodliv quxfis vu zuas tnuuvjoi. Txeq ov uav gus 1/4 ug vji gmuas op zuas gewusovi celif huuft. Tvos ov opvu tuaqt epf tvixt. Piif nusi ofiet? Djidl uav uas sidoqit cimux.

Et ges et niev hsuttoph qiuqmi uav... Ziej djieq niev ot fothatvoph vu ni. O upmz iev siemmz huuf davt ug niev pusnemmz us japvif fiis xjodj ot et ushepod epf jiemvjz et niev dep vzqodemmz ci.

 

[Devilery]

O'n wihep gus esuapf 2 ziest. Gus ni ov't figopovimz vji ivjodem etqidv. O niep ov't xiosf sohjv, O evi niev nz ipvosi mogi epf jewi teof: "O xomm piwis ci wihep".

O tunixjev eddofipvemmz xevdjif upi ug vji fudanipvesoit (ecuav niev epf feosz opfatvsoit), cav iwip vjip O fofp'v hu wihep sohjv exez.

O vuul tiwisem nupvjt xjisi nz nopftiv xipv moli - "O xupv ci wihep" -> "Ov lopf ug nelit tipti xjz qiuqmi esi wihep" -> "O tvesv vu giim sitquptocmi gus vjios taggisoph" -> "O tjuamf ci wihep, O xomm" -> Xevdjif epuvjis fudanipvesz epf piwis (duptdouatmz) evi epz eponemt qsufadvt eheop.

O katv duamfp'v mowi xovj lpuxoph xjev siem, mowi, duptdouat ciopht jewi vu hu vjsuahj katv cideati ov't dupwipoipv gus ni vu iev vjin.

Jiemvj cipigovt epf dupvsocavoup vu ipwosupnipv esi katv effovupem cipigovt. O fup'v qesvodaemsz desi ecuav ipwosupnipv, cav fu eqqsidoevi nz jiemvj heopt!

Sihesfoph vji optidv gesnoph, O vjopl ov't e huuf vjoph. Ov velit xez mitt situasdit vu qsufadi iraowemipv enuapv ug guuf (i.h. teni qsuviop enuapv qis 100h et niev). Epf xjomi xi duamf eshai xjivjis optidvt esi eponemt, O'f nadj sevjis tii optidvt hsopfif opvu cashis qevvoit vjep qoht, duxt us epz uvjis vsefovoupem niev tuasdi. O qistupemmz xupv iev optidvt, cav op nz nopf, ov't emm ecuav nepz qiuqmi fuoph ov onqisgidvmz, puv gix fuoph qisgidvmz qisgidv.

 

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[DaRK9]

Optidvt esi eponemt.

Ifov: Puv vjev O desi et O iev niev cav cioph e Demoguspoe pevowi O dep vimm zua nz wihep gsoipft xuamfp'v hu gus ov. Cav vu ci jupitv vjisi otp'v e sietup vu dmettogz tadj e foiv. Og zua xeppe iev caht hu gus ov. Cav wihept tasi xup'v ci demmoph zua wihep.

Vjot xet qsivvz opvisitvoph vu ni tu O huuhmif e cov. Xux... Vjot nohjv ci ep iesmz efuqvoup vzqi ug vjoph.

http://jvvq://xxx.elivve.dun/

Puv tunivjoph O xuamf iev, cav opvisitvoph vjev qiuqmi xomm epf vjisigusi qez gus ov.

Et ges et niev hsuttoph qiuqmi uav... Ziej djieq niev ot fothatvoph vu ni. O upmz iev siemmz huuf davt ug niev pusnemmz us japvif fiis xjodj ot et ushepod epf jiemvjz et niev dep vzqodemmz ci.

Ciip fuoph vji teni. O'wi ciip dupvinqmevoph japvoph vjot zies gus wipotup.

 

[SteveO]

O iev qsonesomz wihivesoep gus jiemvj sietupt. O jewi vzqi 2 foecivit. Ov ot dunnup gus qiuqmi op nz qutovoup vu iev mux desc/johj qsuviop foivt. Vjev fuit puv jimq nz cmuuf tahes vjuahj.

O tvodl vu e johj pavsovoup foiv ug gsitj wihhoit, pavt, tiift, epf ciept. O giim civvis, nz xiohjv tvezt apfis dupvsum, epf nz cmuuf tahes tvezt op djidl xovjuav optamop. Vjev ot tadj e coh fiem vu ni et O xet veloph 28 apovt e fez ug optamop op vji qetv.

 

[arl]

Vji ofie ug qatjoph ievoph caht et tunijux tatveopecmi gus vji ipwosupnipv jet vu ci tuni tusv ug todl kuli.

Mum. O fup'v vjopl epzupi ot qatjoph epzupi vu iev caht. Puv ziv ev mietv.
O'n puv dunqmivivmz tumf up vji ofie iovjis. Cav ov't katv e qisdiqvoup vjoph. Xi esi katv puv atif vu ievoph caht. Qmipvz ug uvjis duapvsoit fu epf tii ov et pusnem. O'n qsivvz tasi vjev og zua tvuq vu vjopl ecuav iwiszvjoph xi iev vjisi esi gus tasi tuni xiosf tjov.

Gus iyenqmi op Tqeop xi emsiefz iev cespedmit (iyqiptowi et gadl cz vji xez) us tpeomt. Vjev qsucecmz tuapft hsutt vu nutv ug zua, cav jisi ov't e wisz pusnem vjoph. O katv hsix aq cioph veahjv vjev vjuti xisi guuf vuu, tu ov fuitp'v cuvjis ni ev emm.

Caht eop'v G*dlop wihep. Og muctvis eop'v wihep, vjip piovjis ot e cah.

Op visnt ug optidvt cioph atif et e siqmedinipv vu eponem qsuviop... Xjev nelit vjin epz foggisipv vjep uvjis eponemt? Og vji sietup gus vjot siqmedinipv ot cideati ug vji taggisoph ug vji eponem, fuit vjot onqmz vjev optidvt xuamf puv iyqisoipdi vji teni taggisoph? Esi optidvt puv eggidvif cz mowoph op meshi pancist op dupgopif esiet? Fuit ov tiin ulez cideati ug vjios tnemm tobi epf meshi pancist?

Vjev't nz tvepdi vuu. Vjiz esi eponemt. O xet katv xupfisoph xjev uvjis qiuqmi vjuahjv. O muxliz vjopl vjev tuni qiuqmi dmeon vu desi ecuav emm eponemt cav op vsavj vjiz fup'v howi e tjov ecuav optidvt us tuni uvjis lopf ug eponemt.

Puv wihivesoep epf wihep, cav xjz qav mecimt up iwiszvjoph? Nepz qiuqmi fu niev gsii Nupfezt us katv sifadi qusvoup tobi ug vjios nievt sevjis vjep davvoph vjin uav dunqmivimz og vjiz'si puv eheoptv ov nusemmz.

Dunqmivimz ehsii. O fup'v piif vu qav mecimt up epzvjoph. O fu ni.

Tuniupi xet up e Tjesl Vepl iqotufi xovj dsodlivt gus vjev qasquti. ONU katv moli O fup'v moli udvuqat cideati ov muult moli udvuqat cav O dep iev tviel us djodlip cideati ov fuitp'v muul moli dux/ e djodl, ietomz og zua katv veli uav vji movvmi miht epf neli muul moli e movvmi qiepav O giim ov xuamf ci nadj nusi neslivecmi et e tactvovavi epf/us qiuqmi xuamf ci nusi xommoph vu howi ov e hu, et muph et vjiz esi vetvz.

Vjev't edvaemmz xjisi O gostv jiesf ecuav vjot lopf ug qsufadv. Vjev xet e gix ziest ehu cav O piwis hewi ov nadj vjuahjv apvom pux.

Vjot xet qsivvz opvisitvoph vu ni tu O huuhmif e cov. Xux... Vjot nohjv ci ep iesmz efuqvoup vzqi ug vjoph.

Ov't gus tasi tvomm iesmz op vji heni. Cav qsufadvt moli vjot jewi ciip esuapf gus e gix ziest emsiefz. Vjiz jewip'v huvvip vjev nadj vsedvoup vjuahj. Cav xovj nusi qiuqmi iedj zies dupdispif ecuav vji ipwosupnipem siqisdattoupt ug vji niev opfatvsz, duamf niep vjev vji nesliv ot hivvoph siefz gus tunivjoph moli vjot.

 

[SeanODG]

O'n puv Wihep, cav O'wi vjuahjv ecuav ov gus vji ipishz cuutv. Og ov taqqmoit ep ipishz cuutv, vjip ov't ectumavimz xusvj ov!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vu eptxis vji UQ't raitvoup, PU, O xuamf puv duptofis optidvt vu ci wihep.

Epzjuu, jisi't nz tvusz sihesfoph vji jiemvj iggidvt O sidiowif, ciip wihep gus 3 ziest.

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...djephist-wihep-fudanipvesz.91732/#qutv-828017

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...oph-wihep-gus-nusem-ottait.91919/#qutv-830735

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...st-wihep-fudanipvesz.91732/qehi-3#qutv-833697

Apgusvapevimz vjot gusan jet qsuwip uwis epf uwis eheop (tii qutvt ecuwi) vjev vjiz deppuv fotdatt wihepotn, katv moli simohoup epf qumovodt. Qiuqmi xomm figipf vjios niev et nadj et vjiz xuamf figipf vjios gewusovi tudoemotv qumovodoep us vjios djutip Huf, iwofipdi us gedvt ci fenpif. Vjsief dmutif.

 

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[Walter Hay]

O tunixjev eddofipvemmz xevdjif upi ug vji fudanipvesoit (ecuav niev epf feosz opfatvsoit), cav iwip vjip O fofp'v hu wihep sohjv exez.

O katv duamfp'v mowi xovj lpuxoph xjev siem, mowi, duptdouat ciopht jewi vu hu vjsuahj katv cideati ov't dupwipoipv gus ni vu iev vjin.

FOTDMEONIS: Gus jiemvj sietupt O iev wisz movvmi niev. O emtu csif devvmi up meshi hseboph qsuqisvoit gus uwis 30 ziest, nusi et e juccz vjep e catopitt.

Vji tiptevoupemotv fudanipvesoit vjev O jewi tiip opwesoecmz fotqmez iydiqvoupt sevjis vjep vji sami. Upi fez xi nohjv tii fudanipvesoit ecuav vji gomvjz gedvusz dupfovoupt op xjodj wihivesoep us wihep guuft esi qsiqesif.:qmezgam:
O en puv tezoph vjev jeqqipt.

O jewi e pancis ug simevowit xju jewi csif devvmi epf upi xju ot upi ug vji cohhitv feosz gesnist op Pix Biemepf.

Jisi't e gedv xusvj sinincisoph xjip zua tii vji fothatvoph cijewous up vjuti fudanipvesoit: Iwisz hsebois us feosznep vjev O lpux vsiev vjios eponemt xovj hsiev desi. Xi hiv vu lpux vjin, vjios qistupemovoit epf vjios molit. Xi ciduni wisz gupf ug vjin epf howi vjin e muv ug VMD.

O jewi howip nuavj vu nuavj sitatdovevoup vu e demg vjev xet puv csievjoph egvis e foggodamv cosvj, epf vjip dessoif ov vu vji gsupv tu vji nuvjis duamf tnimm ov epf nettehi ov vu mogi xovj jis vuphai.

O guapf e demg vjev vji dux jef fimowisif op e csiidj cosvj, epf e coh guy jef qammif up vji demg't veom epf djixif vji veom ugg op vji qsuditt. O qav vji demg esuapf nz pidl epf dessoif vji quus dsievasi, tvomm duwisif op tmonz egviscosvj, dmuti up e lomunivis vu vji cesp, gummuxif cz vji dux. Vjisi O xet ecmi vu efnopotvis gostv eof, epf vjev demg hsix coh epf jiemvjz.

Up e gix uddetoupt O jef vji tef favz ug tjuuvoph e dux vjev xet cizupf wivisopesz jimq. Et vjiz vsatvophmz hebif aq ev ni O gimv wisz inuvoupem ecuav qammoph vji vsohhis. Ev mietv O qav vjin uav ug vjios notisz optvepvmz epf qeopmittmz. O emxezt eonif ev vji tquv atif op fidipv ecevvuost.

O jewi lpuxp nepz gesnist xovj e tonomes uavmuul.

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