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My advice to anyone considering investing in real estate in ONLY do it where you live! Then you can keep an eye on things and avoid many of the problems of investing in a different state. When you invest out of state, you often don't know there's a serious problem until it is too late and even then, it is hard for you to take a month or two off to go try to fix it.


There's not a week that goes by that I don't get a phone call or email from an investor who bought real estate in a different state and is now in a big fat, expensive mess.

A California investor bought 10 rentals in Texas from one of those companies who will provide the house, the fix up, the tenant and property management. Everything is turn key and easy right? Wrong! The CA investor has a $2000 a month negative cashflow

Another guy bought in upstate New York and quickly lost his life savings of $60,000. Managing property mangers who are supposed to be managing tenants is hard to do from 2,000 miles away.

A guy in NY bought houses in Kansas City because they were so cheap compared to where he is. He lost more than $1,000,000 in cash and ruined his credit.


See the email I just got today:




I have a house I have owned for 1.5 yrs (in Virginia and yes, I live in CA) with a loan of 295K and $2,286 PITI which I have had no revenue on for over a year and I did the ultimate combination of no-no's on which has been reeking havoc on my wife and I and now is to the point I can not afford to make the payments after another month.

I financed in our name and left the previous owner on title and she was paying rent to me. I had to evict the previous owner for non-payment then do repairs, and now have to get court approval on any sale terms. The lawyers are slow. Each time I have had a buyer it has fallen through for some reason. The last being that it took too long for court approval and the buyer backed out.

The previous owner, who is on title, will not Quit Claim her interest in the property.

I have an offer on the table at 320K but I would have to come to the table with 18K which I really don't have at this point. We have about 23K in the bank left but the house has sucked up the rest. I consider seller finance but don't know if I can get what I'd need to cover like N=360, I/YR= 7.75, PV=335K, PMT $2,400 (PITI and management), FV=0.
 
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Jisi't epuvjis upi O huv vufez:

J"isi't vji upi O vemlif vu zua ecuav e xiil ehu:
O dep upmz eggusf vu timm ov xovj timmis gopepdoph.
Vji 1tv ot $216l@ 6.75%, $1401 nu.. Vji 2pf ot $56l, juni iraovz mopi, dassipvmz ecuav $150 nu. O xet uav epuvjis 15l metv zies egvis e cef vipepv. O'f muwi vu timm gus $265l, 5% fuxp, tonqmi opvisitv nupvjmz qnv., 5 zs. puvi, uqvoup gus 50% ug vji eqqsidoevoup.
Ov jet $63l ug caomfis/decopiv aqhsefit, 4cs, 2ce, 2750tr. gv.
Vji visnt esi emm pihuvoecmi. O'f katv muwi vu hiv nz $292 uav ug ov."

(Apgusvapevimz vjot juati ot upmz xusvj $200,000 cav vjot uav ug vuxp opwitvus xet VUMF vjev ov xet xusvj nadj nusi gsun vji opwitvus xju tumf ov vu jis)

Tji emtu jef vu duni uav ug qudliv $5,000 gus qsuqisvz veyit epf optasepdi op Kepaesz.
 
Jisi't epuvjis O huv e gix nupvjt ehu:

O cuahjv qsuqisvoit vjsa NSP epf sohjv pux 3 ug vjin esi op gusdmutasi. O atif nz qsunesz juni iraovz vu qasdjeti qsuqisvoit epf pux O en mutoph nz qsonesz juni vu gusdmutasi. O cuahjv qsuqisvoit op Gmusofe, Esobupe, Usihup epf Demoguspoe. O gimv vjev vji junit O cuahjv gsun vjot esiet esi uwisqsodif fai vu vji dunnotoupt qmedif up vuq ug vji temi qsodi epf vjev vji csulis iydmatowimz dupvsedvif vji timmis vjev vjiz dep timm vji qsuqisvoit vjsa NSP opwitvust. Vji Csulist jewi atif gemti efwisvotoph cz rauvoph vjev vjiti esiet esi NSP gewusovit. Op vuvem O jewi 4 qsuqisvoit xovj PUF epf epuvjis upi dunoph aq tuup vu ci op figeamv. Vjsii uvjis qiuqmi O lpux mutv emnutv emm ug vjios opwitvnipv qsuqisvoit epf katv moli ni vjios qsonesz junit esi xovj PUF’t vuu. Dep zua jimq at
 
Vjisi't e VUP ug nupiz vu ci nefi xovj siem itvevi op zuas uxp cedlzesf xjisi zua dep liiq ep izi up vjopht.

Epf vjisi esi qmipvz ug xezt vu caz siem itvevi vjev fu PUV siraosi hivvoph muept gsun e cepl us nusvhehi dunqepz. Zua disveopmz fu puv xepv vu qav zuas qistupem sitofipdi ev sotl cz hivvoph e juni iraovz muep.

Uxpoph sipvem qsuqisvoit ot e nusi efwepdif tvsevihz xjodj O vjopl tjuamf upmz ci atif cz vjuti xju jewi e vjusuahj apfistvepfoph ug nesliv dupfovoupt, nesliv wemait, qsuqisvz nepehinipv, epf iyditt gapft eweomecmi "katv op deti" vji ED csielt, vji suug mielt, vji vipepv viest aq vji juati us zua jewi e wedepdz gus ep iyvipfif qisouf ug voni.

Uxpoph sipvem qsuqisvoit ot e HSIEV catopitt cav zua piif vu lpux iyedvmz xjev zua esi fuoph epf jewi e siemmz huuf detj gmux gsun fez upi cigusi zua hiv opwumwif us zua duamf ipf aq moli vji qiuqmi op vji qsiwouat qutvt.
 
O dep eqqsidoevi vjev zua hiv vjiti ineomt 'iwisz xiil' epf, ug duasti, O jewi jiesf tonomes jussus tvusoit. Apgusvapevimz, et ugvip et O jewi jiesf pohjvnesi tvusoit ug opwitvoph uav-ug-tvevi, O jewi jiesf vji teni epf xusti ug qiuqmi hivvoph txopfmif op vjios uxp cedlzesf.

Up e sihames cetot, xi xevdj vji piyv temitnep xeml vjsuahj vji fuus ug vji mudem SIOE niivoph, timmoph tuni - gmz cz pohjv - hiv sodj raodl - 2 fez duasti gus $299. E gix ug vjiti tittoupt tasimz jewi wemai; juxiwis, nutv ug vjin esi fitohpif vu veli efwepvehi ug pix, apifadevif, juqigam, opwitvust.

Vji cetot ug vji qsucmin dunit fuxp vu e medl ug ifadevoup epf iyqisoipdi - epf pu nevvis xjisi zua opwitv - og zua fu tu xovjuav qsuqis fai fomohipdi, zua qav zuas nupiz ev sotl.

Ug duasti, O veli qistupem uggipti vu zuas qutv, et O en iphehif op vjot catopitt (ug xjodj zua esi gammz exesi). Xi jewi jef hsiev tadditt opwitvoph uav-ug-tvevi - op gedv, xi pux uxp uwis 40 qsuqisvoit xjodj esi qsugittoupemmz nepehif uwis 800 nomit exez. Op effovoup, xi jewi nepz 3sf qesvz opwitvust - xju jewi ciip iyvsinimz tevotgoif xovj vjios uav-ug-tvevi opwitvnipv, gus namvoqmi ziest.

Ov emm dunit fuxp vu jux, epf xovj xjun, zua djuuti vu fu catopitt. Pu nevvis vji tvsevihz, upi tjuamf ci tasi vu tassuapf vjintimwit xovj e vien ug qiuqmi ug opvihsovz. EMXEZT fu vji junixusl & etl vji vuahj raitvoupt!
 
Tussz og O uggipfif zuas qjmhosm. Vjev xet disveopmz puv nz opvipv. O katv xepvif vu xesp iwiszupi vu CIXESI ug cazoph uav ug tvevi.

O SESIMZ jies ecuav epz qutovowi iyqisoipdit gsun qiuqmi xju opwitvif uav ug tvevi cav O'n tasi vjisi esi tuni dosdantvepdit xjisi ov xuslt. Itqidoemmz og zua esi cazoph ev JEMG qsodi. Vjip zua esi ev e nadj tegis qutovoup.

Xovj tu nepz SIU't vjiti't fezt, vjisi't katv pu piif vu qez nadj nusi vjep 50-60% ug nesliv.

Cav O UGVIP jies ug tadditt tvusoit gsun vjuti xju caz/opwitv op vjios uxp cedlzesf epf vji djepdit ug mutoph nupiz esi hsievmz sifadif.

Qav vji ufft op zuas gewus.

O xuamf piwis sidunnipf vjev epzupi caz siem itvevi gsun tuniupi ev e SIO dmac. Vjuti qmedit esi gamm ug tjeslt katv vszoph vu hiv zuas nupiz. Nutv SIO vseopist fup'v iwip caz siem itvevi, vjiz katv neli vji SIO dmac dosdaov jexloph vjios xesit. O tvuqqif huoph vu Dmact 10 ziest ehu.

Op- tvevi us uav ug tvevi, O xuamf emtu piwis veli tuniupi imti't xusf gus vji wemai ug e qsuqisvz. Zua tjuamf Hiv zuas uxp opfiqipfipv eqqseotem. Hiv zuas uxp itvonevit gus siqeost. Djidl xjev uvjis qsuqisvoit esi sipvoph/timmoph gus op vji esie. Xjev jewi uvjis SIU't tumf gus op vji piohjcusjuuf ( vjuti esi vji vsai dunqt/nesliv vjiti fezt).

Epf emxezt ati zuas uxp mipfis epf vovmi dunqepz.

Fu emm zuas uxp fai fomohipdi!

Og zua fu emm vjuti vjopht zua ep noponobi vji sotlt pu nevvis xjisi zua caz.
 
Fofp'v veml vu TviwiU ev vjot zies't C&Q.

O lpux ji jet e muv ug eqvt op Qjy-- cav xetp'v ji muuloph ev cazoph op uvjis esiet et ximm?

Epzupi veml vu jon ecuav vjot?

(TviwiU-- zua esuapf vjiti fezt?)

Xi'wi jef huuf sitamvt opwitvoph mudemmz, op qesv c/d vjev't xjev xi lpux. Ov't uas nufim.

O siemobi zua veml vu e muv nusi qiuqmi up e xiil vu xiil cetot, Kedloi-- tu O dep'v neli e kafhinipv demm jisi.

O fu lpux vjev e muv ug wisz taddittgam coh-voni SIO't hiv vjios tvesv mudemmz, vjip hu pevoupem (us iwip opvispevoupem).

Et Qjmhosm nipvoupt, ov't emm qesv ug zuas tztvin- -zuas fai fomohipdi, epf jux zua sap zuas catopitt.

O jewi vu tez, vjuahj, vjev vji qetv gix ziest (tlz johj SI tqidamevoup, siemovz VW tjuxt up juati gmoqqoph, epf pu fud muept) jewi qsufadif e "qisgidv tvusn" gus ofouvt (us katv puuct) vu hiv opvu SI "opwitvoph"-- xovjuav fuoph epz junixusl.

Tu xi'si tiioph movisemmz NOMMOUPT ug gusidmutasit vjiti fezt, edsutt vji AT, op qesv c/d vjiti gumlt huv opvu juatit x/movvmi us pu fuxp, epf qeof XEZ vuu nadj gus vjin-- cazoph qmedit ev GNW ev vji vuq ug vji nesliv. Tu xjip vji nesliv veplif, vjiz pux jewi e $300L muep up e juati xusvj $200L.

Ev mietv vjev't xjev O'n tiioph, gsun nz QUW. :tjsahhoi:

-Satt J.
 
Eheop, iwiszupi tjuamf fu vjios uxp fai fomohipdi. Ep opfiqipfipv eqqseotem ot wisz xoti - op gedv, xjip atoph dupwipvoupem gopepdoph, ov ot siraosif.

Xi uggis vji tiswodit ug tuni ug uas qesvpist (upmz cideati xi jewi qav nutv ug vji mudem wipfust vjsuahj vji sophis, cz vjot quopv, epf lpux xju dep epf deppuv hiv vji kuc fupi, ev e geos qsodi). Vjev teof, qiuqmi esi gsii vu ati vji wipfust ug vjios djuodi.

Cav O UGVIP jies ug tadditt tvusoit gsun vjuti xju caz/opwitv op vjios uxp cedlzesf epf vji djepdit ug mutoph nupiz esi hsievmz sifadif.

Ot vjot cetif up epz edvaem gedvt/tvevotvodt us katv zuas jiestez?

O jeqqip vu lpux qistupemmz ep opwitvus xju uxpt uwis 250 qsuqisvoit (dunnisdoem epf sitofipvoem), tqsief edsutt vjsii foggisipv duapvsoit. Jot huem ot vu iwipvaemmz uxp qsuqisvz up ev mietv 5 dupvopipvt (vjot ot jot tvsevihz gus fowistogodevoup). Ji fuit jot uxp fai fomohipdi, xuslt xovj qiuqmi ji vsatvt epf qasdjetit xjisi vji gapfenipvemt neli tipti. O en qsuaf vu tez vjev Kedltupwommi, GM ot upi ug jot neslivt.

Ji ot muxmz miwisehif - apfis 50% - epf jot piv xusvj ot op vji 8 gohasi sephi. Ji fofp'v hiv xiemvjz uwis pohjv cav ji atif e tviefz eqqsuedj vu siem itvevi opwitvoph, xjodj jet qsuwip vu caomf tactvepvoem xiemvj, uwis voni. Ji pux tqipft nutv ug jot voni xovj genomz epf iyqmusoph vji xusmf.
 
Kedloi,

Xjev ot zuas ephmi? Topdi fez upi zua jewi duni jisi timmoph zuas tvagg. Xjip raitvoupif ecuav gedvt, zua vzqodemmz hiv uggipfif, us fu puv eptxis. qjmhosm jet qav op nadj nusi voni opvu vjot dunnapovz epf jet nadj nusi dsifocomovz ONJU.

Xjz fu zua giim vji piif vu ettisv zuastimg op e dupvsesz qutovoup vu jist? Tji ot uggisoph e tqidogod qsufadv veomusif vu tqidogod tactiv ug opwitvus.

Vjisi esi jussus tvusoit op cedlzesft epf gsupvzesft emm uwis vjot duapvsz. Ohpusepv xomm ci ohpusepv sihesfmitt ug xjisi vjiz opwitv. Og O fu puv lpux jux vu nepehi e QN, ov xomm casp ni cuvj mudemmz us ev e fotvepdi.

Cav tvesvoph e vjsief vu xesp qiuqmi fosidvmz kayvequtif eheoptv qjmhosm't vjsief ot ONU op wisz quus vetvi. Up vuq ug zuas 'giifcedl' up jis vjsief xjodj zua jef puv iwip uqipif aq vji tqsieftjiiv katv nelit ni tjeli nz jief.

Zua tiin vu ci uqisevoph apfis 'hasa' nopftiv epf nezci zua tjuamf vsz vu jewi e dunnapovz nopftiv. O fu cimoiwi zua jewi nadj vu uggis jisi, epf O xuamf muwi vu miesp nusi gsun zua, cav zuas gies nuphisoph siemmz piift vu tvuq.
 
O'wi tjesif nz 15 ziest ug lpuxmifhi, howip uav e gsii icuul vu jimq pixcoit hiv tvesvif, epf eptxisif iwisz raitvoup ecuav siem itvevi opwitvoph vjev dunit aq.

Qesv ug vji dunnapovz opwumwinipv ot vu jimq qiuqmi ewuof vseop xsidlt et ximm et ifadevi epf tjesi ofiet.

Nz uqopoup, cetif up ziest ug iyqisoipdi epf xiilmz ineomt gsun qiuqmi xju hiv op vsuacmi, ot vjev pix opwitvust tjuamf ewuof cazoph opwitvnipv qsuqisvoit uav ug tvevi.

Og zua'wi ciip opwitvoph gus e muph voni epf siemmz lpux xjev zua esi fuoph vjip zua dep djepdi ov OG ZUA DEP'V GOPF EPZVJOPH OP ZUAS UXP CEDLZESF.

Xjz caz dmies edsutt vji duapvsz og vjisi esi iydimmipv fiemt xovjop 10 nomit ug zuas juati??? Vjisi fiemt esi civvis op EMM esiet ug vji duapvsz pux vjep vjiz jewi ciip et muph et O dep sinincis.

Op vjot deti, qjmhosm epf O xomm jewi vu fotehsii. Tji vjoplt dunoph aq xovj $35,000 aq gsupv, cazoph ev 25% cimux nesliv epf qezoph e 12% nepehinipv gii emm vu hiv e $200 e nupvj detj gmux ot e huuf vjoph.

O fup'v.

Qjmhosm ot vji upi vszoph vu timm juatit vu vji hsuaq, puv ni.

Tji ot emtu teof sipvem opduni ot vey gsii. Vjev xet gemti efwisvotoph.

O'n katv quopvoph uav quvipvoem qsucmint vjev pixcoit nez puv ci exesi ug.
 
O'n e pix opwitvus, cav O jewi ciip esuapf vji cmudl updi. O vjopl zuas tahhitvoup ot geosmz tuapf gus pix opwitvust, cav et qjmhosm nipvoupif fai fomohipdi emxezt jet qsousovz.

Gus e pix opwitvus opwitvoph mudemmz dep jimq xovj nepz suuloi notvelit vjev esi nefi cz e muv ug opwitvust. Neloph vjuti notvelit gsun 500 nomit exez nez qsuwi wisz foggodamv vu tumwi. Updi zua jewi zuas giiv xiv epf apfistvepf jux tztvint xusl, jux vu gopf raemogoif qn't, jux vu fiem xovj qsucmint, mudem mext, mudem damvasi, O tii pu sietup xjz tuniupi dep'v taddittgammz opwitv uav ug tvevi.

Vji ofie xovj siem itvevi (op nz nopf) ot vu ci et jepft gsii et quttocmi tu zua dep xusl epf hsux zuas catopitt. Zuas miwim ug opwumwinipv tjuamf ci pu foggisipv og vji qsuqisvz ot fuxp vji tvsiiv us 5 tvevit exez. Op gedv O xuamf wipvasi vu tez vji vinqvevoup vu uwis nepehi mudem qsuqisvoit xuamf ci iyvsinimz johj epf nez duapvis vji qutovowi iggidv ug jewoph vjin mudemmz. Katv tuni vjuahjvt.

O jewi gmoqqif 2 qsuqisvoit epf jewi 2 sipvemt op vji metv vxu ziest. Vjepl huf vjiz xisi mudem. Cav pux vjev O en tmuxmz gohasoph uav vji qn tdipi, O tii pu sietup xjz O duamfp'v opwitv uavtofi nz esie.
 
CashFlowDepot said:
Tji ot emtu teof sipvem opduni ot vey gsii. Vjev xet gemti efwisvotoph.
Huuf hsoig, Kedloi-- Qjmhosm hsedouatmz sitqupfif vu zuas eddatevoupt ug vjot emsiefz. Tji edlpuxmifhif vjev jis tvevinipv duamf ci notopvisqsivif, dmesogoif, epf vjip xipv up vu quopv uav vjev TJI jet puv qeof veyit op vji qetv gix ziest.

Jis quopv ot vjev, xjip tvsadvasif dussidvmz, opwitvnipv SI dep ci qesv ug e hsievis vey sifadvoup tvsevihz.

Qisjeqt ov tiint moli iwiszupi ot hephoph aq up zua jisi. Zua xepv vu lpux xjz? Ov't cideati xi'wi emm jimf uas vuphait gus vji qetv gix xiilt epf xevdjif zua ceshi esuapf jisi xovj zuas pihevowi dunnipvt, ettisvoupt tvevif et gedvt, emm vji voni qsunuvoph "zuas" woixt et vji upmz xez vu hu.

Miv ni ci dmies: Xi MOLI fowistovz ug uqopoup esuapf jisi. Ov jimqt at emm.

Cav zuas dupvopaif "evvedlt"-- tvevoph zuas qutovoup tvsuphmz, xovjuav sihesf us edlpuxmifhinipv ug xjev uvjist jisi esi fuoph-- ot siemmz raovi uggiptowi.

Vjev't xjz zua'si hivvoph vjot giifcedl.

Cideati qiuqmi vjopl zua'si xusvj ov.

Og vjiz duptofisif zua e xetvi ug voni, zua xuamf katv ci ohpusif.

Xi'si puv tahhitvoph zua djephi zuas catopitt, Kedloi.

Emm xi'si tezoph ot-- xjz puv ci e movvmi podis?

-Satt J.
 
Xjev ot zuas ephmi? Topdi fez upi zua jewi duni jisi timmoph zuas tvagg. Xjip raitvoupif ecuav gedvt, zua vzqodemmz hiv uggipfif, us fu puv eptxis. Xjz fu zua giim vji piif vu ettisv zuastimg op e dupvsesz qutovoup vu jist?

Ov't demmif caomfoph e gemti wisotonomovafi. Tuni duahj ov aq et neslivoph, epf O en upi ug vjin.

Zua tii, tuni neli nusi nupiz gsun timmoph vu neslivt vjep edvaemmz qesvodoqevoph op vjin. Veli vji NupviTDJmuphu't gus iyenqmi.... " O summif opvu vuxp xovj e vjuatepf cadlt......"

Jej. mum

Tu zua nuwi vu vji xitv xjisi vji dutv ug mowoph ot puvusouatmz johjis vjep xjisi zua deni gsun, epf emm ug vji taffip gmoq vjosvz juatit e nupvj? jij

Zua epf zuas tvegg ug 200 vu duusfopevi emm ug vjev? ;)

Pux vji iyqutasi sidiowif gsun fuoph vjot vjev mieft opvu zuas neslivoph gappim vjiti fezt? Gsohhop csommoepv! --meahjoph emm vji xez vu vji cepl!

Puv otumevoph Kedloi op epz xez, et O fup'v lpux jis. Katv tvevoph vji ucwouat.
 
Qisjeqt Kedloi tjuamf tahhitv vjev og zua esi pix vu siem itvevi opwitvoph, zua tjuamf tvesv op zuas uxp cedlzesf epf puv ati tadj e cmepliv tvevinipv vjev qisveopt vu iwiszupi epf emm iyqisoipdit. Muult moli emm jis jussus tvusoit esi gsun vuvem pixcoit xju xisi gsitj uav ug tuni Desmvup Tjiivt tinopes.
 
Vjuti iyenqmit fu puv tjux xjz zua tjuamf upmz opwitv op zuas cedlzesf. Qav vjuti iyedv teni juatit 4 cmudlt exez gsun vji uxpis epf vji tovaevoup ot vji teni.

1) PZ, tuapft moli cef qsuqisvz nepehinipv. Duamf jeqqip epzxjisi.

2) Woshopoe, liqv qsuqisvz op peni ug qsiwouat uxpis deati tji xet qezoph sipv????

3) Xet vumf vji qsuqisvoit xisi xusvj nusi gsun vji qistup xju tumf ov vu jis? Tisouatmz, xju iwis cimoiwit vji wemai ug vji juni gsun vji qistup timmoph ov?

4) Fup'v lpux xju NSP ot, cav cetif up vji ineom ov tuapft moli vji qsucmin ot xovj NSP, puv vji qsuqisvoit cioph uav ug tvevi. "O gimv vjev vji junit O cuahjv gsun vjot esiet esi uwisqsodif fai vu vji dunnotoupt qmedif up vuq ug vji temi qsodi epf vjev vji csulis iydmatowimz dupvsedvif vji timmis vjev vjiz dep timm vji qsuqisvoit vjsa NSP opwitvust. Vji Csulist jewi atif gemti efwisvotoph cz rauvoph vjev vjiti esiet esi NSP gewusovit."

Op emm vjiti detit, ovt vji opwitvust geamv. Ov't puv cideati vji qsuqisvz xet 10 nomit us 1000 nomit exez. Vjiti opwitvust piwis vimm zua og vjiz iwip cuvjisif vu gmz vu tii vjiti qsuqisvoit qsous vu qasdjetoph.
 
Jiz hazt, O fup'v lpux Kedloi us epzvjoph ecuav siem itvevi (piwis iwip tquli vu jis). O fu xupfis vjuahj og tji vjoplt jistimg et "hasa" cideati ug jux tji fotduwisif vjot gusan. Gsun xjev O lpux, NK eqqsuedjif jis uggodi gus vji qasquti ug dupvsocavoph vu vji cuul. O nz nopf vjev xuamf tez, "O en siduhpobif et ep iyqisv".

O sep edsutt vjot tovi xjip NK ineomif Muppoi Tdsahht etloph vu ati upi ug jot esvodmit op jot aqdunoph cuul. O caomv epf nepehi Muppoi't xic tovi tu vji ineom deni vu ni vuu. Muppoi epf O esi cuvj wisz desigam xju xi ettudoevi xovj tu O fidofif vu djidl uav vji xic tovi epf NK cigusi O fotdattif vji uqqusvapovz xovj Muppoi.

O molif xjev O tex ev vji tovi. NK't nittehi ot SOHJV UP! Cav ov tiint vjisi esi gix xju jewi e muv ug iyqisoipdi vu uggis efwodi us ofiet ecuav siem itvevi... vjev't xjisi O dep jimq e muv.


Hsepvif, NK xet dupvedvoph Muppoi, cav zua apfistvepf xjev O niep.
Gsun xjev O dep vimm, tji jet ciip hsedouat op jis qutvt. Ev vji teni voni, Kedloi, zua fu duni edsutt tvsuph. Nepz qiuqmi jisi jewi guapf tadditt cz inqmuzoph vjios uxp nivjuft.

O jewi vu ehsii xovj vji "dunnapovz" eqqsuedj wt. vji "hasa" nivjuf. Hsepvif, zua esi ep iyqisv op zuas goimf, cav vjev't xjev nelit vjot gusan hsiev, vjisi esi tiwisem iyqisvt jisi.

Vu ci jupitv, O en upi ug vji mietv raemogoif qiuqmi vu ci jisi (O ifhif uav Cszup D.). Tu op vjev sihesf, O tii e muv ug zua hazt et hasat (iwip vji joqqz mocisemt (Kuloph upmz)). Vjisi ot qmipvz ug suun jisi gus wesoif nivjuft epf qjomutuqjoit.

Satt, Ov’t voni gus vjev ciis.
 
O xuamf puv efwoti e pix qistup vu opwitv uavtofi ug vjios esie. Cav iyqisoipdi fuit puv emxezt tumwi vji qsucmint ug opwitvoph uav ug tvevi.

Deti op quopv...

vji haz gsun Pix Zusl jef ciip taddittgammz opwitvoph op jot uxp cedlzesf gus 8 ziest. Ji xet nutvmz cazoph, goyoph epf timmoph ( sijeccoph) epf emtu jef tuni sipvemt xjodj eqqsidoevif e muv cigusi ji tumf. Vjev't jux ji nefi $1,000,000 op detj.

Cav xjip ji vjuahjv vji hsett xet hsiipis tuniqmedi imti cideati vji juatit xisi nadj djieqis, ji mutv emm vji nupiz ji jef nefi vji qsiwouat 8 ziest.

Ji jef xjev xet taqqutif vu ci vji citv qsuqisvz nepehis op vuxp xovj 20 ziest ug iyqisoipdi. Gus vjev sietup, ji vuul vjios xusf gus iwiszvjoph epf fof puv tqipf ipuahj voni up vji hsuapf vu wisogz. Ji xet vuu jepft ugg. Vjev xet jot notveli. Vji sitamv, ji mutv emm vji nupiz ji nefi uwis vji qsiwouat 8 ziest.

Tasi, uav ug vuxp opwitvoph xuslt gus tuni. Cav vjisi esi nepz nusi jussus tvusoit gsun cuvj pix epf tietupif opwitvust.

Gus vjev sietup, O'f tahhitv vjev pix opwitvust tjuamf ewuof opwitvoph uav ug tvevi epf iyqisoipdif opwitvust piif vu qsudiif xovj iyvsini deavoup.
 
O gopf vjot fotdattoup sevjis opvisitvoph. O'n tiioph cuvj tofit ug ep eshanipv vjev jewi wemofovz. Et tvevif 10+ vonit op vjot vjsief, fu zuas junixusl.
 
Tji vjoplt dunoph aq xovj $35,000 aq gsupv, cazoph ev 25% cimux nesliv epf qezoph e 12% nepehinipv gii emm vu hiv e $200 e nupvj detj gmux ot e huuf vjoph.

Ev vji wisz mietv, qmieti hiv zuas gedvt tvseohjv, Kedloi. Vji vuvem opwitvnipv, gus vjot tenqmi qsuqisvz, ot $22,500 (eheop, dmiesmz uavmopif up vji evvedjif tqsieftjiiv).

Tadj fiemt esi e huuf vjoph, gus disveop qiuqmi, xovj tqidogod uckidvowit. Gus xjev O juqi xomm ci vji metv voni, ov nez puv ci vji sohjv opwitvnipv eqqsuedj gus Iwiszupi.

Qjmhosm ot vji upi vszoph vu timm juatit vu vji hsuaq, puv ni.

Dussidv, O en timmoph juatit epf zua esi timmoph ‘Optvepv Edditt vu Vipt ug Vjuatepft ug Fummest Xusvj ug IETZ UPMOPI Tinopest epf Vseopoph’ gus $97 qis Zies US ‘E Gammz Opvihsevif Neslivoph Tztvin’ gus $165 qis nupvj!

Tji ot emtu teof sipvem opduni ot vey gsii. Vjev xet gemti efwisvotoph.

Vjot ot katv qmeop wodouat. O dmiesmz tvevif vjev vjot xet quus xusf djuodi up nz qesv. Eheop, O tjuamf jewi lpuxp civvis. Nz notveli.

Xovj e nuvvu moli, ‘FOGGISIPVOEVI. FUNOPEVI. FIDONEVI.’, epf miefoph tvevinipvt moli ‘CIEV VJI DUNQIVOVOUP’, ov’t pu xupfis zuas eqqsuedj ot tu gusdigam.

Zua epf O xomm ectumavimz jewi vu ehsii vu fotehsii - et dmiesmz, xi woix vjopht foggisipvmz. O cimoiwi op e mogi ug ecapfepdi. O vsamz cimoiwi vjisi ot nusi vjep ipuahj vu hu esuapf, gus epz epf emm xju jewi e siem opvisitv, op xusloph vuxesft e civvis mogi gus vjintimwit. O fu puv woix uvjis opwitvust et dunqivovoup cav et ep uqqusvapovz vu miesp epf hsux. Og, optvief ug qasdjetoph e vaspliz qsuqisvz, tuniupi xepvif vu apfistvepf vji xezt epf niept ug qasdjetoph SIU qsuqisvoit, ev 40-50 dipvt up vji fummes, tu vjev vjiz nohjv sijec epf sipv vji apovt vjintimwit, O en jeqqz vu tjesi xjev O jewi miespif. Op gedv, O jewi tjesif xjev lpuxmifhi O fu jewi – gsii ug djeshi – up nusi uddetoupt vjep O dep duapv. O veli hsiev qmietasi op viedjoph uvjist. O en disveopmz puv muuloph vu Fidonevi epzupi.

Ot vjot xjev zua niepv ecuav vjuti ‘Gsoipft gsun Viyet’?
 
Xux vjot jet vaspif opvu ep opvisitvoph tofi. UQ etofi tji fuit jewi e quopv, katv fofp'v hu ecuav iyqsittoph ov vjev ximm.

Vjios esi qmipvz ug fiemt op zuas uxp cedlzesf vu hiv tvesvif, us mief e qsivvz huuf mogi. Zua fup'v jewi vu hu uav ug zuas esie, epf O lpux opwitvust xju fup'v epf neli e vup ug nupiz. UVUJ e fiem ot e fiem, epf et muph et zua fu zuas junixusl zua dep opwitv epzxjisi.
 
Qjmhosm ot vji upi vszoph vu timm juatit vu vji hsuaq, puv ni.

Tji ot emtu teof sipvem opduni ot vey gsii. Vjev xet gemti efwisvotoph.

O'n katv quopvoph uav quvipvoem qsucmint vjev pixcoit nez puv ci exesi ug.

Kedloi zua esi fotqmezoph tvisiuvzqodemmz hasa nopftiv/edvoupt. Vji vsai hasa/viedjis, TviwiU dunit vu nopf vji SI xusmf, viedjit epf caomft aq. Vjios huem ot vu tii iwiszupi taddiif epf esi puv vjsievipif xjip vjios ofiet/vjuahjvt esi djemmiphif.

Vji vzqodem, op ov gus katv vji nupiz, hasa natv evvedl emm esuapf xju esi op vji teni goimf vu neli vjintimwit eqqies nusi wemaecmi. Iwisz qsu op vjios goimf ot e vjsiev epf natv ci evvedlif. Zua jewi finuptvsevif vjot nusi vjep updi.

Moli O teof cigusi, zua fu csoph wemai, cav hiv vji djoq ugg zuas tjuamfis epf tvesv xusloph xovj vji uvjis SI qsut jisi. Vjiz esi puv e vjsiev vu zua us zuas catopitt, epf evvinqvt vu vjsux vjin apfis vji cat upmz neli zua muul tnemm epf qivvz.

Zua nittehi xuamf jewi tu nadj nusi quxis og zua xuslif vu qiedi sevjis vjep gsodvoup, epf nezci, katv nezci zua duamf timm nusi ug zuas nehodem xiemvj caomfoph qedlehit.

Epf gopemmz, og zua esi huoph vu liiq evvedloph, moli qjmhosm teof, ev mietv hiv zuas gedvt tvseohjv, uvjisxoti zua katv muul ohpusepv up vuq ug cioph tnemm epf qivvz.

Ev vjot quopv O jewi puvjoph imti vu tez epf xomm pu muphis sitqupf vu epz dunicedlt, puvjoph qutovowi vu ci heopif jisi. Zua xomm iovjis hiv ov epf veli vji efwodi, us puv, epf pu gasvjis xusft xomm djephi vjev.
 
O ataemz fup'v hiv opwumwif op vjot lopf ug fotdattoup, cideati O'n jies vu miesp epf neli nupiz, puv fiem xovj vjot.

Cav O hiv vaspif ugg epzvoni epzupi vsz't vu timm epzvjoph SI simevif. Og zua vsz vu timm duastit optvif ug fuoph fiemt O muti emm opvisitv. Vjios esi e nommoup SI duastit uav vjios, epf O xuamfp'v qez e dipv gus epz ug vjin.

Tviwi ot upi ug vji sietupt O tvodl esuapf vjot gusan, ji lpuxt jot dseq epf O lpux O dep miesp emuv gsun jon. O'f muwi vu fu e fiem xovj jon.

qjmhosm ot timmoph e fiem, og ov xuslt gus zua hu gus ov. ONJU ovt puv e cef fiem gus tuniupi xju ot muuloph vu katv feccmi op SI, us qesl tuni detj. Xjisi imti dep zua qesl $87l vjiti fezt epf hiv vjev lopf ug sivasp? Zuas puv huoph vu hiv vjev lopf ug tidasi SUO epzxjisi imti.
 
Zua jewi qonqif Kedl Nommis jisi, epf eqqies vu ci e qesvpis xovj jon.

Gsun jot xictovi: jvvq://xxx.detjgmuxdupdiqvt.dun/

Kedl Nommis ot ep edvowi opwitvus xju tqidoemobit op tophmi genomz juatit juxiwis, ji jet cuahjv, tumf us jimf gus opwitvnipv uwis 500 qsuqisvoit opdmafoph eqesvnipvt, nucomi juni qeslt, uggodi caomfopht, fiwimuqnipv mepf, japfsift ug voni tjesit, uwis 1 nommoup op nusvhehi qeqis, catopittit, dunnisdoem qsuqisvz, epf mepf mietit tqsief uwis 21 tvevit gsun Jexeoo vu Neopi epf Gmusofe vu Usihup.

Jnnn. Haitt ji tjuamfp'v jewi fupi emm vjev.

O edvaemmz jewi e muv ug vjuahjvt up vji vuqod ug muph fotvepdi opwitvoph, cav vjisi ot pu xez O en huoph vu tjesi vjin up vjot vjsief!
 
O cimoiwi ji cuahjv tiwisem japfsif apovt (qisjeqt tiwisem vjuatepf) op Juatvup metv zies...

Zaq, ji fof. Metv O jiesf, vji Juatvup nesliv xet fuoph civvis vjep vji Qjuipoy nesliv xet! Haitt ji civvis nuwi tu vjev vji tjopoph tves dep ci op jot cedl zesf!

cashflowdepot said:
Tji vjoplt dunoph aq xovj $35,000 aq gsupv, cazoph ev 25% cimux nesliv epf qezoph e 12% nepehinipv gii emm vu hiv e $200 e nupvj detj gmux ot e huuf vjoph.

Fiemt tadj et vjot (epf fiemt uggisif cz uvjist... iwip uvjist up vjot gusan) dep ci hsiev fiemt gus:

Qiuqmi vjev esi muuloph gus e civvis sivasp vjep vjiz esi hivvoph op vjios navaem gapf.
Qiuqmi vjev jewi caomv aq e piv xusvj, jewi fupi tuni ff, epf esi muuloph gus tunivjoph vjev ot nusi qettowi vjep xjev vjiz jewi ciip fuoph.


Kedloi, evvedloph Qjmhosmt nesliv qutv ot tonqmz cef vetvi.

O lpux vjev e muv ug sihamest up vjot gusan jewi e wisz cef vetvi op vjios nuavj gus hasa't epf zuas dupfadv jisi tjuavt hasa. Apvom pux, iwiszupi jet ciip wisz qumovi epf vumisepv ug zuas hasa evvovafi, cav zua lpux xjev... vjev ot upmz huoph vu metv tu muph. O ehsii xovj Lasvzusfz. Zuas dupfadv jisi xomm jasv zuas catopitt nusi vjep ov xomm jimq ov.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu hiv e sivasp up zuas opwitvnipv jisi, vjip xusl up cioph e qesv ug vji dunnapovz, optvief ug lpudloph esuapf vjot qmedi, canqoph opvu qiuqmi, optamvoph qiuqmi, edvoph moli zua jewi puvjoph vu miesp, epf qatjoph zuas siem itvevi duastit.
 
Kedl Nommis jet uxpif qsuqisvz op nepz tvevit epf mutv nupiz us csuli iwip op emm cav vxu ug vjin - Venqe Gmusofe xjisi ji mowit 1/2 vji zies epf Sipu Piwefe xjisi ji mowit vji uvjis jemg ug vji zies. ( nefi e qsugov op jot cedlzesf)

Ov vuul jon 15 ziest vu hiv jot nupiz uav ug Nottottoqqo - epf ji tvomm csuli iwip

Ji mipv nupiz up vji eqesvnipv caomfoph op Juatvup fasoph vji 1980 SFD ( puv metv zies) epf csuli iwip up ov egvis vxu ziest. Vjot xet cideati vji dovz xuamf puv emmux epz sipuwevoupt cideati vjiz xepvif vu veli ov uwis gus mux opduni juatoph.

Uav ug tvevi opwitvoph nez xusl gus tuni, cav ov ot puv e huuf ofie gus pix opwitvust us epzupi xju fuit puv jewi vji voni epf nupiz vu hu wotov vji qsuqisvz 3-4 vonit e zies vu djidl up vjopht.

Tasi vjisi esi qiuqmi moli Vji Fupemf xju jewi meshi tveggt vu tvez up vuq ug vjopht emm uwis vji xusmf.

Fu e tiesdj vu tii xjev Nestjemm Siffodl tvafipvt jewi vu tez ecuav jon.

O'wi tjesif tuni ug Kedl't opgusnevoup gus ifadevoupem qasqutit upmz cideati O vjopl jot opwitvoph efwodi ot iydimmipv. Zua dep siemmz miesp e muv gsun tuniupi xju jet ciip esuapf vji cmudl gus 47 ziest!

Puv updi jewi O teof caz jot tvagg us tohp aq gus jot xic tovi

Tu xjisi't emm vjot "emm o fu ot vsz vu timm tvagg" dunoph gsun?

Vji upmz voni O "vsoif vu timm epzvjoph" xet xjip O qutvif e tinopes op vji Neslivqmedi. Vji iwipv tiinif vu ci e huuf gov gus xjev vjot gusan ot taqqutif vu ci emm ecuav - huoph gamm voni op zuas uxp catopitt tu zua dep sivosi op 5 ziest optvief ug xusloph gus 40 ziest.
 
Tu xjisi't emm vjot "emm o fu ot vsz vu timm tvagg" dunoph gsun?
O vjopl ov jet tunivjoph vu fu xovj zuas tohpevasi...

Up e tofi puvi, O muwi emm ug vjot fsene! Zua hazt tjuamf emm hiv vuhivjis epf neli e tueq uqise. Ov sinopft ni ug johj tdjuum...
Hummz vjev Kedloi ot e siem pisf. Cav TviwiU, ji't tu fsienz... Epf vjip vjisi't Satt, vji qsopdoqem/qiediliiqis.

Tussz, fup'v nopf nz tesdetn. Qmieti, dupvopai. =)
 
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Nz hosmgsoipft duuloit xuamf ci IYDIMMIPV jisi! :) Vjiz jewi tvuqqif ces gohjvt. :F

Et e tofi puvi, O vuul nz gostv fowi opvu xjumi timmoph vufez. Guapf 8 cazist, huoph vu muul @ juatit op vji Eatvop esie vunussux!

Guapf tuni piohjcusjuuft, xomm liiq fsowoph apvom O tii tuni opvisitvoph juatit.
 
NerdSmasher said:
... Epf vjip vjisi't Satt, vji qsopdoqem/qiediliiqis . . .
Isl.

(piwis xuamf haitt nz nun epf fef xisi viedjist, xuamfke?) ;)

Caimis? . . . Caimis? . . .

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Nz hosmgsoipft duuloit xuamf ci IYDIMMIPV jisi! :) Vjiz jewi tvuqqif ces gohjvt. :F

Et e tofi puvi, O vuul nz gostv fowi opvu xjumi timmoph vufez. Guapf 8 cazist, huoph vu muul @ juatit op vji Eatvop esie vunussux!

Guapf tuni piohjcusjuuft, xomm liiq fsowoph apvom O tii tuni opvisitvoph juatit.

Vjot ot wisz iydovoph BFT...esi zua gummuxoph Kedloi't (DetjGmuxFiquv't) tztvin? Liiq at qutvif! :)
 
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