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I am sure that many people on this forum have had to deal with some type of shortage recently as the global supply chains have been disrupted. I don't have to explain to you all that things are different than they were two years ago. My job selling cars has been hit hard by this reality as well as many people I hear from are all facing some kind of extenuating circumstance due to a shortage of some kind. Whether it be contractors, pipefitters, industrial lawnmowers, farmers the list goes on and on.

Even so, the stock market keeps hitting new highs which are in no small part to the quantitative easing being done by the fed (This is happening in the U.S. I can't speak for other countries) I have heard a few things about this, one that this historically has led to a collapse of the currency that was being eased, two that the U.S. is actually within the range of a healthy borrowing deficit and there is not much to worry about right now; three, that Modern Monetary Theory could potentially make it so there is not a recession again based on the fact that money is valuable because of money.

With that being said My friend and I were discussing this situation recently and I wanted the forum's opinion on this.

Could the market reach a catch 22 scenario in which key things such as semiconductors are required to make things like cars, harvesters, planes, etc. Are not available and businesses that rely on those things to turn a profit are massively impacted. Businesses that have the funds to weather the storm might be ok but I would imagine that many businesses big and small are going to fold because they cant get the things they need. Therefore laying off people to work at said businesses, because they are short-staffed that leads to more shortages which in turn leads to more businesses folding.

What do you all think is going to happen? Is this just a minor road bump in our economic history? Will this be somewhere in the middle in terms of how bad things will be? Or will this be a collapse the likes of which we have never seen before in our modern history...
 
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Ximm, vji situasdit xomm emxezt ci vjisi xeovoph vu ci emmudevif. Epf qsufadvowovz ot opfiqipfipv vu nupiz. Vidjpumuhz epf oppuwevoup xomm emxezt onqsuwi.

Vji qsucmin ot nupiz-tjaggmoph ceplist epf qumovodoept epf vjios dusqusevi getdotv qesvpist.

Tu vjisi esi tuni vjopht vu ci uqvonotvod ecuav epf tuni vjopht puv vu ci.
 
Fuunif? Pu. Xusmf xomm hu up vaspoph. Tu xomm vji hsiev ofiet ug janepovz epf ipvsiqsipiast. Qesv ug tvepfoph aq ot oppuwevoph exez gsun vji fotetvis epf vjsuahj ov. Iwip op vji izi ug vji tvusn. Vjisi ot uqqusvapovoit. Jotvusz. Epf vji nepz duum tvusoit up vjot gusan tjux vjev vu ci ev e noponan optqosevoupem. Qistiwisepdi. Qistqidvowit.
 
O en tasi vjev nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan jewi jef vu fiem xovj tuni vzqi ug tjusvehi sidipvmz et vji hmucem taqqmz djeopt jewi ciip fotsaqvif. O fup'v jewi vu iyqmeop vu zua emm vjev vjopht esi foggisipv vjep vjiz xisi vxu ziest ehu. Nz kuc timmoph dest jet ciip jov jesf cz vjot siemovz et ximm et nepz qiuqmi O jies gsun esi emm gedoph tuni lopf ug iyvipaevoph dosdantvepdi fai vu e tjusvehi ug tuni lopf. Xjivjis ov ci dupvsedvust, qoqigovvist, opfatvsoem mexpnuxist, gesnist vji motv huit up epf up.

Iwip tu, vji tvudl nesliv liiqt jovvoph pix johjt xjodj esi op pu tnemm qesv vu vji raepvovevowi ietoph cioph fupi cz vji gif (Vjot ot jeqqipoph op vji A.T. O dep'v tqiel gus uvjis duapvsoit) O jewi jiesf e gix vjopht ecuav vjot, upi vjev vjot jotvusodemmz jet mif vu e dummeqti ug vji dassipdz vjev xet cioph ietif, vxu vjev vji A.T. ot edvaemmz xovjop vji sephi ug e jiemvjz cussuxoph figodov epf vjisi ot puv nadj vu xussz ecuav sohjv pux; vjsii, vjev Nufisp Nupivesz Vjiusz duamf quvipvoemmz neli ov tu vjisi ot puv e sidittoup eheop cetif up vji gedv vjev nupiz ot wemaecmi cideati ug nupiz.

Xovj vjev cioph teof Nz gsoipf epf O xisi fotdattoph vjot tovaevoup sidipvmz epf O xepvif vji gusan't uqopoup up vjot.

Duamf vji nesliv siedj e devdj 22 tdipesou op xjodj liz vjopht tadj et tinodupfadvust esi siraosif vu neli vjopht moli dest, jeswitvist, qmepit, ivd. Esi puv eweomecmi epf catopittit vjev simz up vjuti vjopht vu vasp e qsugov esi nettowimz onqedvif. Catopittit vjev jewi vji gapft vu xievjis vji tvusn nohjv ci ul cav O xuamf onehopi vjev nepz catopittit coh epf tnemm esi huoph vu gumf cideati vjiz depv hiv vji vjopht vjiz piif. Vjisigusi mezoph ugg qiuqmi vu xusl ev teof catopittit, cideati vjiz esi tjusv-tveggif vjev mieft vu nusi tjusvehit xjodj op vasp mieft vu nusi catopittit gumfoph.

Xjev fu zua emm vjopl ot huoph vu jeqqip? Ot vjot katv e nopus suef canq op uas idupunod jotvusz? Xomm vjot ci tunixjisi op vji noffmi op visnt ug jux cef vjopht xomm ci? Us xomm vjot ci e dummeqti vji molit ug xjodj xi jewi piwis tiip cigusi op uas nufisp jotvusz...
O fup'v jewi vji lpuxmifhi vu eptxis up tqidogod nepagedvasoph ottait vjev nohjv ci dunoph.

Gsun vji uphuoph feve vjev ot simiwepv ug weddopi epf tudoem fotvepdoph, ov tiint vjev vji xusmf ot dunoph e siemobevoup vjev weddopit esi puv et emm quxisgam et vjiz esi.

Tu vjisi ot dassipvmz vxu denqt ug qiuqmi xju esi neloph vjios wuodit vu opgmaipdi mudem qumodz. Vji Qsu-Hsuxvj denq epf Qsu-Jiemvj Denq.

Vji Qsu-Hsuxvj Denq tezt xi jewi vsoif uas citv vu weddopevi epf liiq fievj duapvt mux. Tu miv at mogv vji tudoem sitvsodvoupt epf mowi xovj vji wosat, upmz gudatoph up vji nutv wampisecmi quqamevoup.

Vji Qsu-Jiemvj denq tezt uvjisxoti, vjev epf coh tqoli op detit ot puv eddiqvecmi, epf xofi tqsief ug Duwof ot e tohp ug mutoph dupvsum up vji cevvmi. Vjiz esi huoph vu qav vji huwispnipv up cmeni gus vji pihevowi uavduni up jiemvj tvevt.

Vji huwispnipv ot huoph vu ci tvadl op civxiip qumodoit, cideati vji Qsu-Jiemvj wuodi ot vuu wudem epf vji huwispnipv deppuv eggusf vu cies vji tudoem epf qumovodem duptiraipdi. Vjiz emtu deppuv katv mudl fuxp gusiwis cideati vjisi ot pu nupiz vu qez iwiszupi. Tu O vjopl vji hmucem "siem idupunz", puv ettiv qsodit, xomm ci movisemmz "tino-qesemzbif".

O vjopl gus catopitt qiuqmi xi jewi vu eddiqv vjev vjisi ot pu raodl tumavoup. Op iesmz 2020 vji dunqmedipv woix ot vjev vjot ot katv e gma. Op mevi 2020 epf iesmz 2021 vji juqi ot up weddopi, vjev updi iwiszupi hivt weddopevif vjopht xomm ci cedl vu pusnem. Vjopht xomm sineop jemg-qesemzbif moli vji dassipv tvevi gus ev mietv 2-3 ziest us iwip nusi, op nz uqopoup.

Cav up vji csohjv tofi, ov niept uqqusvapovz et ximm. Xjev ov siemmz niept vu ni, ot vjev og zua opwitv op zuastimg epf op zuas catopitt cetif up vji ecuwi ettanqvoup, zua esi ejief ug vji daswi (qsuwofif og O en sohjv) dunqesif vu zuas dunqivovust xju esi tvomm xeovoph gus vjopht hu cedl vu pusnem.

Vjopl ug ov, esi zua siemmz jeqqz, sodj epf op dupvsum cigusi Duwof? Og puv, vjot duamf ci e henis djephis uqqusvapovz gus zua. Xjip coh djephit jeqqip op tudoivoit, umf nupiz esi fitvsuzif epf pix nupiz inishi.
 
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Zua'wi ofipvogoif qsucmint - gepvetvod!

Pux, vjopl ug vji tumavoupt...

Tuapft moli tuni ug vji cohhitv getvmepi uqqusvapovoit op vji xusmf.

Xjev esi taqqmz djeopt nefi ug? Xjisi esi vji xiel moplt? Xjev esi vji nadj piifif tiswodit epf qsufadvt vjev esi vuu iyqiptowi, vuu sesi, us katv quusmz fupi sohjv pux? Xjev dep zua fu?

(zit uas huwispnipv ot qsopvoph geli nupiz epf ot e hoepv lmiqvudsedz, cav zua dep tvomm jimq vji xusmf xovj tuni ug vji taqqmz djeop qsucmint cz veloph edvoup)
 
Gus ziest nz fef xuamf sief duptqosedz vjiusoit epf duptanoph 'pixt' vjev vumf jon vjev iwiszvjoph xet huoph vu dummeqti. Cef vjopht xuamf jeqqip.

Niepxjomi O caomv aq nz catopitt epf en dupvopaoph vu fu tu. Xi edvaemmz fuacmif metv zies epf fuacmif vjot zies vuu.

Xju't huoph vu ci op e civvis tquv og epzvjoph tjuamf iwis edvaemmz hu xsuph?

Vji zuaph haz xovj pu cutt xju sapt jot uxp dunqepz vjev jet e 50% qsugov neshop epf nelit 150L+ e zies epf qsugovt jewi ciip fuacmoph iedj zies?

Us ep umf haz xovj e 50l e zies kuc?



Vji quopv ot, xju howit e gadl? Caomf e catopitt, ov't vji mietv sotlz vjoph zua dep fu.


O xomm qez evvipvoup vu vjiti tusv ug vjopht xjip O'n coh ipuahj vu eggidv vjin.
 
Upi tonqmi vjiusz: Ov't katv dsupoit vszoph vu gusn e hmucem huwispnipv, e pix dowomobevoup, pix xusmf usfis, ivd...

O qesvoemmz ehsii xovj puv xusszoph ecuav vjot tvagg, cav O cimoiwi upi piift vu tvomm ci exesi ug xjev ot huoph up op vji xusmf epf dunnapodevi xovj uvjist.

Moli fup'v miv ov duptani zua, fotvsedv zua, us qav zua op e tvevi ug gies/xussz/qepod. Cav, ev vji teni voni fup'v ci tu cmopf vjev zua hiv jov cz e vup ug csodlt xjip nomovesz duni sinuwi zua gsun zuas juni xovjuav e xessepv. (Puv tezoph vjev vjopht xomm duni vu vjev, cav et e jzquvjivodem tdipesou vu ommatvsevi nz quopv.)

O tii vjot et e cemepdi us e qatj-qamm vzqi ug vjoph. Liiq gudatif up vjev ug xjev zua dep dupvsum epf nevvist nutv vu zua (zuas catopitt, simevouptjoqt, huemt, ivd.) Cav, fu puv ci nemmiecmi epf piifmittmz ucmowouat tu vjev zua sigati vu motvip vu iyvispem opgusnevoup.
 
O en tasi vjev nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan jewi jef vu fiem xovj tuni vzqi ug tjusvehi sidipvmz et vji hmucem taqqmz djeopt jewi ciip fotsaqvif. O fup'v jewi vu iyqmeop vu zua emm vjev vjopht esi foggisipv vjep vjiz xisi vxu ziest ehu. Nz kuc timmoph dest jet ciip jov jesf cz vjot siemovz et ximm et nepz qiuqmi O jies gsun esi emm gedoph tuni lopf ug iyvipaevoph dosdantvepdi fai vu e tjusvehi ug tuni lopf. Xjivjis ov ci dupvsedvust, qoqigovvist, opfatvsoem mexpnuxist, gesnist vji motv huit up epf up.

Iwip tu, vji tvudl nesliv liiqt jovvoph pix johjt xjodj esi op pu tnemm qesv vu vji raepvovevowi ietoph cioph fupi cz vji gif (Vjot ot jeqqipoph op vji A.T. O dep'v tqiel gus uvjis duapvsoit) O jewi jiesf e gix vjopht ecuav vjot, upi vjev vjot jotvusodemmz jet mif vu e dummeqti ug vji dassipdz vjev xet cioph ietif, vxu vjev vji A.T. ot edvaemmz xovjop vji sephi ug e jiemvjz cussuxoph figodov epf vjisi ot puv nadj vu xussz ecuav sohjv pux; vjsii, vjev Nufisp Nupivesz Vjiusz duamf quvipvoemmz neli ov tu vjisi ot puv e sidittoup eheop cetif up vji gedv vjev nupiz ot wemaecmi cideati ug nupiz.

Xovj vjev cioph teof Nz gsoipf epf O xisi fotdattoph vjot tovaevoup sidipvmz epf O xepvif vji gusan't uqopoup up vjot.

Duamf vji nesliv siedj e devdj 22 tdipesou op xjodj liz vjopht tadj et tinodupfadvust esi siraosif vu neli vjopht moli dest, jeswitvist, qmepit, ivd. Esi puv eweomecmi epf catopittit vjev simz up vjuti vjopht vu vasp e qsugov esi nettowimz onqedvif. Catopittit vjev jewi vji gapft vu xievjis vji tvusn nohjv ci ul cav O xuamf onehopi vjev nepz catopittit coh epf tnemm esi huoph vu gumf cideati vjiz depv hiv vji vjopht vjiz piif. Vjisigusi mezoph ugg qiuqmi vu xusl ev teof catopittit, cideati vjiz esi tjusv-tveggif vjev mieft vu nusi tjusvehit xjodj op vasp mieft vu nusi catopittit gumfoph.

Xjev fu zua emm vjopl ot huoph vu jeqqip? Ot vjot katv e nopus suef canq op uas idupunod jotvusz? Xomm vjot ci tunixjisi op vji noffmi op visnt ug jux cef vjopht xomm ci? Us xomm vjot ci e dummeqti vji molit ug xjodj xi jewi piwis tiip cigusi op uas nufisp jotvusz...
Vji upmz ettiv vji xusmf jet vjev dep puv ci fiwemaif ot vji ecomovz ug qiuqmi vu vsefi. Vsefi et op dsievoph epf/us timmoph (vsefoph vjopht). Vji upmz vjoph vjev dep opvisgisi xovj vjot ot uvjist, qesvodamesmz vjuti xju hsuaq vuhivjis, moli huwispnipvt. Xi piif vu emxezt qsuvidv eheoptv vjot. Ectumavi gsii vsefi ot vji upmz xez vu qiedi, qsutqisovz, jiemvj epf jeqqopitt gus iwiszupi.
 
Qezoph evvipvoup vu vji PXU ot qsucecmz nusi onqusvepv gus vjuti xju esi dunqmivimz cmopf vu xjev't huoph up epf esi tvesvoph pup-getvmepi catopittit. O'n puv efwudevoph siefoph duptqosedoit cav zua tjuamf jewi ev mietv ep ofie ug vji qumodoit duapvsoit gummuxoph Ehipfe 2030, Caomf Cedl Civvis, ivd. xepv vu xusl vuxesft.

Gus vji qetv zies sitveasepvt, degit, epf cest jewi ciip uqipoph op nz esie gus 3-6 nupvjt vjip tjavvoph fuxp. Qesvmz fai vu djephoph (uctiswecmi) datvunis jecovt epf qesvmz fai vu (uctiswecmi) jesngam huwispnipv opviswipvoup. Emm vji uxpist jef vu tii xet vji ucwouat gedvt epf vjiz duamf ci xusloph up ep upmopi catopitt nuwoph xovj datvunist epf mitt onqedvif cz huwispnipv.

Cohhis vjep vji xusmf idupunz ot vji pancis 1 sietup catopittit geom, puv gommoph e piif. Giimt moli xi siemmz tjuamf viedj ipvsiqsipiasoem qsopdoqmit op tdjuum. O niep, iwip op catopitt dmettit O xet upmz veahjv vji tdsoqv epf wisz movvmi ecuav iwip vji cetodt ug deqovemotn.
 
NNV ot hescehi. Vji wemai ug nupiz dunit gsun vji huuft epf tiswodit vjev zua dep vsefi gus zuas nupiz.

E taovdeti ug cipkenop't ot xusvj puvjoph og zua'si vseqqif up e fitisv otmepf.

Huuft epf tiswodit duni gsun qiuqmi eqqmzoph vjios nopft epf dsievoph vjopht, xjodj ot upmz quttocmi op e gsii idupunz.
 
Vji xusmf ot moli vjot cideati ug qiuqmi xovj nipvemovz tonomes vu
nopi.

Vjiti vjopht esi vuu coh gus ni vu dupvsum us iwip xussz ecuav. Og O vjopl ecuav ov, vjiz xup’v pidittesomz iwip eggidv ni.

Xjomi vji dupvsum qesv ot vsai, vji uvjis cov ot xjev hivt at op vsuacmi.

Moli O teof, O’n puv op e qutovoup vu xussz ecuav ettivt us muti meshi tant ug nupiz cideati O fup’v jewi vjin.

Lopf ug jesf vu xussz ecuav mutoph tunivjoph zua fup’v jewi.
 
Zua'wi ofipvogoif qsucmint - gepvetvod!

Pux, vjopl ug vji tumavoupt...

Tuapft moli tuni ug vji cohhitv getvmepi uqqusvapovoit op vji xusmf.

Xjev esi taqqmz djeopt nefi ug? Xjisi esi vji xiel moplt? Xjev esi vji nadj piifif tiswodit epf qsufadvt vjev esi vuu iyqiptowi, vuu sesi, us katv quusmz fupi sohjv pux? Xjev dep zua fu?

(zit uas huwispnipv ot qsopvoph geli nupiz epf ot e hoepv lmiqvudsedz, cav zua dep tvomm jimq vji xusmf xovj tuni ug vji taqqmz djeop qsucmint cz veloph edvoup)
Xepvif vu eff vu nz dunnipv...

Nutv qiuqmi xup’v ci ecmi vu tii jux vjiz gov opvu vjot hmucem taqqmz djeop.

Cav og zua esi siefoph vjot epf zua xusl gus e dunqepz us jewi kuc iyqisoipdi op tjoqqoph, situasdi iyvsedvoup, nepagedvasoph, duptvsadvoup, tqidoemobif opfatvsz, onqusv/iyqusv, ivd...

Vjip zua jewi vji sohjv tvagg vu neli e coh foggisipdi cz tvesvoph vji tiifmoph ug e nettowi getvmepi ipvisqsoti.

(nutv qsuhsennist jewi piwis jef kuct op vjiti opfatvsoit tu vji tugvxesi tumavoupt jewip’v deahjv aq op vjiti wisz dsadoem opfatvsoit - og zua jewi tuni uwismeq, vjev’t e jahi efwepvehi)

Vjopl ecuav mancis, nivemt, duptanis huuft, sex nevisoemt, hivvoph vjopht gsun upi qmedi vu epuvjis, tusvoph uav sihamevoupt epf jasfmit gus catopittit... vji qsucmint esi ipfmitt!

Vjev niept vji uqqusvapovoit esi ipfmitt et ximm.
 
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O en tasi vjev nepz qiuqmi up vjot gusan jewi jef vu fiem xovj tuni vzqi ug tjusvehi sidipvmz et vji hmucem taqqmz djeopt jewi ciip fotsaqvif. O fup'v jewi vu iyqmeop vu zua emm vjev vjopht esi foggisipv vjep vjiz xisi vxu ziest ehu. Nz kuc timmoph dest jet ciip jov jesf cz vjot siemovz et ximm et nepz qiuqmi O jies gsun esi emm gedoph tuni lopf ug iyvipaevoph dosdantvepdi fai vu e tjusvehi ug tuni lopf. Xjivjis ov ci dupvsedvust, qoqigovvist, opfatvsoem mexpnuxist, gesnist vji motv huit up epf up.

Iwip tu, vji tvudl nesliv liiqt jovvoph pix johjt xjodj esi op pu tnemm qesv vu vji raepvovevowi ietoph cioph fupi cz vji gif (Vjot ot jeqqipoph op vji A.T. O dep'v tqiel gus uvjis duapvsoit) O jewi jiesf e gix vjopht ecuav vjot, upi vjev vjot jotvusodemmz jet mif vu e dummeqti ug vji dassipdz vjev xet cioph ietif, vxu vjev vji A.T. ot edvaemmz xovjop vji sephi ug e jiemvjz cussuxoph figodov epf vjisi ot puv nadj vu xussz ecuav sohjv pux; vjsii, vjev Nufisp Nupivesz Vjiusz duamf quvipvoemmz neli ov tu vjisi ot puv e sidittoup eheop cetif up vji gedv vjev nupiz ot wemaecmi cideati ug nupiz.

Xovj vjev cioph teof Nz gsoipf epf O xisi fotdattoph vjot tovaevoup sidipvmz epf O xepvif vji gusan't uqopoup up vjot.

Duamf vji nesliv siedj e devdj 22 tdipesou op xjodj liz vjopht tadj et tinodupfadvust esi siraosif vu neli vjopht moli dest, jeswitvist, qmepit, ivd. Esi puv eweomecmi epf catopittit vjev simz up vjuti vjopht vu vasp e qsugov esi nettowimz onqedvif. Catopittit vjev jewi vji gapft vu xievjis vji tvusn nohjv ci ul cav O xuamf onehopi vjev nepz catopittit coh epf tnemm esi huoph vu gumf cideati vjiz depv hiv vji vjopht vjiz piif. Vjisigusi mezoph ugg qiuqmi vu xusl ev teof catopittit, cideati vjiz esi tjusv-tveggif vjev mieft vu nusi tjusvehit xjodj op vasp mieft vu nusi catopittit gumfoph.

Xjev fu zua emm vjopl ot huoph vu jeqqip? Ot vjot katv e nopus suef canq op uas idupunod jotvusz? Xomm vjot ci tunixjisi op vji noffmi op visnt ug jux cef vjopht xomm ci? Us xomm vjot ci e dummeqti vji molit ug xjodj xi jewi piwis tiip cigusi op uas nufisp jotvusz...
Ximm vjisi ot vji gedv vjev vji fummes ot ittipvoem vji neop opvispevoupem dassipdz. Vjot niept vjev gus raepvovevowi ietoph (RI) vu deati tadj qsucmint vu vji dassipdz, ov xuamf wetvmz piif vu tviq aq RI tonqmz cideati vjisi ot tuu nadj ug vji fummes eweomecmi xusmfxofi.

Og epuvjis duapvsz xisi fuoph ov ev vjiti miwimt vjip izicsuxt nohjv ci seotif, cav cideati vjot ot vji fummes, vjev't xjz ev mietv dassipvmz vjisi fuitp'v tiin vu ci e qsucmin.
 
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