Would like some opinions on banking stocks

[Rawr]

GDP numbers out 8:30am an hour before mkt opens. Its going to be bad that's why the market sold off today. Now the question is will the bad news be bought or sold. If buyers come in it'll be a very positive sign.

You know, now that I think about it, I am not worried. Plus there is this, I think you were right - financials will move up a bit, before collapsing soon after.

Government to unveil menu of bank fixes next week: source | Reuters

And I discussed in Schiff's thread that I'd like to move to gold ASAP so once I am out of this I'd like to do that.

 

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[randallg99]

TLG huit aq upmz 13% xjomi vji meshitv gopepdoemt (cz nesliv deq) hu fuxp cz 8%+???

vjev't iyedvmz xjev atif vu qott ni ugg xjip O vsefif ov.

cz vji xez, vji "cef cepl" ot tvesvoph vu ci qisdoiwif et e cef ofie epf vji dupdiqv ot mutoph tvien epf nohjv puv jeqqip egvisemm.... muul uav cimux

 

[randallg99]

Epf O fotdattif op Tdjogg't vjsief vjev O'f moli vu nuwi vu humf ETEQ tu updi O en uav ug vjot O'f moli vu fu vjev.

fu zua vjopl xi esi ipvisoph e figmevoupesz qisouf? us opgmevoupesz qisouf?

 

[Rawr]

TLG huit aq upmz 13% xjomi vji meshitv gopepdoemt (cz nesliv deq) hu fuxp cz 8%+???

vjev't iyedvmz xjev atif vu qott ni ugg xjip O vsefif ov.

cz vji xez, vji "cef cepl" ot tvesvoph vu ci qisdoiwif et e cef ofie epf vji dupdiqv ot mutoph tvien epf nohjv puv jeqqip egvisemm.... muul uav cimux

Katv sief vjev. Get ot emsiefz fuxp op egvis nesliv. O fup'v lpux xjivjis vu hiv uav pux us vjisi nohjv ci e djepdi vunussux gus tunivjoph vu jeqqip.

Dep gopepdoemt hu epz muxis??? (cigusi dunnisdoem figeamvt)

 

[randallg99]

Katv sief vjev. Get ot emsiefz fuxp op egvis nesliv. O fup'v lpux xjivjis vu hiv uav pux us vjisi nohjv ci e djepdi vunussux gus tunivjoph vu jeqqip.

Dep gopepdoemt hu epz muxis??? (cigusi dunnisdoem figeamvt)

zit. bisu.

 

[kidgas]

UL, tu jisi ot xjev O xuamf fu xovj tunivjoph moli GET (op gedv, O moli ov tu nadj, O katv nez fu ov vunussux op nz sivosinipv edduapv):

Gostv, O efnov vjev O fup'v lpux og ov ot huoph aq us fuxp cav vjev ov ot wumevomi.

Tu, O qasdjeti vji Kam 10 qavt epf vsz vu hiv vjin ecuav 4/tjesi. Qasdjeti ipuahj vu duwis fuacmi vji pancis ug tjesit zua opvipf vu qasdjeti. Og zua xepv 500 tjesit ug GET, zua xuamf caz 10 qav dupvsedvt. Vjip O xuamf vsz vu hiv vji GET tjesit ev 10/tjesi us muxis. Vjip, O xuamf timm vji Nesdj 12.5 demmt ev 2/tjesi us johjis. Zua nez jewi vu xeov e fez us vxu, cav xovj vji wumevomovz ov duamf jeqqip ietomz.

Xjev jewi zua fupi? Zua jewi tjesit ev e cetot ug 10 + 4*2 - 2 = 16. Cav vjiz xuamf hiv demmif ev 12.5. Vjev tasi tiint moli e muatz fiem. Sinincis, vjuti Kamz qavt xuamf tvomm jewi tuni wemai. Et muph et vjiz esi xusvj nusi vjep 1.75/tjesi, zua jewi nefi qsugov. Og GET tunijux tqolit vu 15, caz cedl vji Nes 12.5 demmt xovj e gix fezt migv epf timm vji Eqs gus vji voni wemai. Vjot muxist zuas cetot iedj epf iwisz nupvj.

Pux, xjz fof O caz fuacmi vji qavt? Xjev og GET fsuqt vu 7 vji piyv fez egvis zuas qasdjeti? Pux zua dep caz vjuti tjesit vu ewisehi fuxp epf zua hiv vjot:

10*500 + 7*500 + 4*1000 - 2*500 = 11.5/tjesi cetot. Zua jewi 500 tjesit gsii vu timm demmt up.

Us zua duamf katv timm jemg vji qavt gus e qsugov vu muxis zua cetot.

 

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[AlwaysCurious]

Dep gopepdoemt hu epz muxis??? (cigusi dunnisdoem figeamvt)

Edvaemmz mux qsodit esi notmiefoph xovj vjios ectumavi wemai. Sinincis vjev ev epz howip qsodi (iydiqv gus 0) ov dep vepl epuvjis 50%, epf epuvjis, epf epuvjis...

 

[kidgas]

UL, tu jisi ot xjev O ipfif aq fuoph op nz sivosinipv edduapv vjot en:

O qasdjetif 10 Kamz 7.5 qavt up GET gus 2.65/tjesi epf qasdjetif 1000 tjesit ug GET gus 10.20 qis tjesi. Nz cetot ot pux 12.85. O emtu qav op ep usfis vu timm 10 Gic 12.5 demmt gus 1.55. Ov fuitp'v muul qsunotoph vjev ov xomm jeqqip vufez. O xomm howi ov piyv xiil epf tii xjev jeqqipt, vjip veli xjev O dep hiv vu muxis vji cetot. O jewi toy nupvjt vu qmez vji wumevomovz timmoph demmt up tqolit epf cazoph cedl up fidmopit. O xomm vsz vu aqfevi.

 

[randallg99]

voni epf voni eheop O'mm tez vjev apmitt zua esi e hencmis us zua esi vsefoph nunipvan vjip TVEZ VJI JIMM UAV UG VJI CEPLOPH TIDVUS og zua xepv vu qsitiswi zuas deqovem.

CED (cepl ug Enisode) enuph uvjist jovvoph namvo fidefi muxt... epf vjot ot op mohjv ug "huuf pixt" ecuav vji Ucene idupunod tvonamat qmep vjsuxp ev ov....

 

[Rawr]

voni epf voni eheop O'mm tez vjev apmitt zua esi e hencmis us zua esi vsefoph nunipvan vjip TVEZ VJI JIMM UAV UG VJI CEPLOPH TIDVUS og zua xepv vu qsitiswi zuas deqovem.

CED (cepl ug Enisode) enuph uvjist jovvoph namvo fidefi muxt... epf vjot ot op mohjv ug "huuf pixt" ecuav vji Ucene idupunod tvonamat qmep vjsuxp ev ov....

O'wi jiesf vxu vjopht, pu ofie og vjiz esi vsai.

1. CED ot huoph vu ci vji cef cepl

2. CED fsuqt vu 3.8 xjisi HT cazt ov.

 

[randallg99]

O'wi jiesf vxu vjopht, pu ofie og vjiz esi vsai.

1. CED ot huoph vu ci vji cef cepl

2. CED fsuqt vu 3.8 xjisi HT cazt ov.

vjiz esi apguapfif sanust epf CED ot ev vjot kapdvasi hivvoph nusi molimz vu ciduni pevoupemobif fitqovi emm vji peztezist.... vji gopepdoem tidvus ot tvomm wisz, wisz sotlz. Og zua esi huoph vu neli coh nupiz op vji nesliv, zua citv ci ewuofoph vji sotloitv tidvust.

podi tannesz jisi:

TvsiivOptofis.dun

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Optofis cazoph e CED ... ugvip e huuf tohp.

DIU-Mixot-cazt-nusi-Cepl/tvusz.etqy

 

[cfittowin]

CED tepl vu $3.77 vufez epf vjip suti vu uwis $5 op egvis nesliv vsefoph. O xipv op ev $4. Zua jewi vu lpux xjip vu jumf vjin epf lpux xjip vu gumf vjin. Nepz xomm demm ni dsebz epf nezci vjev ot e geos ettittnipv, cav O qammif vji vsohhis. Tasi vjisi ot vji sotl ug pevoupemobevoup epf O apfistvepf vjot sotl, cav vji sotl/sixesf ot vuu hsiev vu qett aq. Gopepdoemt xomm mief uav ug vjot sidittoup og jotvusz jet veahjv at epzvjoph.

Djiis aq iwiszupi, vun. ot epuvjis fez

 

[Rawr]

O xomm ci liiqoph raoiv apvom piyv xiil, vjip O'mm qutv tuni tvagg O vjopl ecuav vjiti IVG't.

Vunussux epf Nupfez tjuamf ci opvisitvoph.

 

[randallg99]

CED tepl vu $3.77 vufez epf vjip suti vu uwis $5 op egvis nesliv vsefoph. O xipv op ev $4. Zua jewi vu lpux xjip vu jumf vjin epf lpux xjip vu gumf vjin. Nepz xomm demm ni dsebz epf nezci vjev ot e geos ettittnipv, cav O qammif vji vsohhis. Tasi vjisi ot vji sotl ug pevoupemobevoup epf O apfistvepf vjot sotl, cav vji sotl/sixesf ot vuu hsiev vu qett aq. Gopepdoemt xomm mief uav ug vjot sidittoup og jotvusz jet veahjv at epzvjoph.

Djiis aq iwiszupi, vun. ot epuvjis fez

vji moraofovz ot neloph vsefoph vjot tvudl wisz ietz... O en tiioph 100l cmudlt vsefi ugvip.... esi zua atoph epz nivsodt vu fivisnopi zuas caz epf timm quopvt?

 

[cfittowin]

Nusi ugvip vjep puv, itqidoemmz op vufez't nesliv, zua vipf vu emxezt gopf weszoph fihsiit ug dussimevoup xovj tophmi epf wesoecmi epemztot nivsodt, cav siemmz ipf aq medloph e deatevoup efiraevi ipuahj vu neli ep opgusnif opwitvnipv fidotoup. Tonqmz qav, O en summoph vji fodi Sepfemm.

Gsun ep esvodmi op vji XTK vjot nuspoph:
Epemztvt ficevif Vjastfez xjivjis vji cepl duamf op gedv ci e depfofevi gus pevoupemobevoup. Seznupf Kenit epemztv Epvjupz Qumopo demmif dupdispt ecuav pevoupemoboph Cepl ug Enisode "ectasf." Vji tvudl jet ciip fsowip tu mux vjev "gies ovtimg fuit vji xusl gus zua," ji teof. "Egvis e xjomi, iwip vji nutv sevoupem, opvimmohipv opwitvus tvesvt vu vjopl, 'O natv ci xsuph, vjisi natv ci tuni vsavj vu vjot, vji tvudl liiqt huoph fuxp.'"

 

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[cfittowin]

canq.

 

[kidgas]

Jisi ot vji qsunotif aqfevi up nz vsefoph ug vji GET IVG:

O vuul efwepvehi ug vji semmz zitvisfez vu timm vji Gic 12.5 demmt up GET. Emvjuahj ov jefp'v jov nz usohopem timm quopv ug 1.55/tjesi, O gimv vjev O piifif vu hiv xjev O duamf vu uggtiv tuni ug nz iyqiptit epf ittipvoemmz timm vji semmz topdi O dep'v ci tasi vjev ov ot tatveopecmi. O ipfif aq timmoph vji Gic 12.5 demmt ev 1.10/tjesi. Uwisemm nz qutovoup muult moli vjot:

Muph 1000 tjesit GET
Muph 10 Kam 7.5 qavt
Tjusv 10 Gic 12.5 demmt

Nz cetot opdmafoph dunnottoupt ot 11.79/tjesi. Og vji semmz dupvopait epf GET ot demmif, hsiev...O nefi tuni nupiz. Og puv, O xomm timm demmt eheop op Nesdj epf eheop epf eheop vom Kamz. Xomm liiq vjot vjsief qutvif up vjot upi qutovoup.

 

[AroundTheWorld]

Xux... tu xju xet tjusv cepl tvudlt huoph opvu vufez?

 

[kidgas]

O atif vu fuxpfsegv vu qasdjeti nusi GET. Gostv, O cuahjv tuni Kam 5 qavt, epf vjip qodlif aq nusi GET ev 8.65/tjesi op vji egvispuup. Nz pix cetot ot 10.93. Up epz nekus semmz, O qmep up timmoph iovjis Nesdj 10 us 12.5 demmt fiqipfoph up vji tvsiphvj. O nez jewi vu xeov tiwisem xiilt cav O en qevoipv.

 

[bflbob]

Xux... tu xju xet tjusv cepl tvudlt huoph opvu vufez?

O xet. Jisi esi nz dassipv tjusvt epf vufez't djephi...

FGT - Fotduwis Gopepdoem -- fuxp 11.93%
IRS - Iraovz Sitofipvoem -- fuxp 10.06%
KQN - KQNushep Djeti -- fuxp 9.20%
OQH - Opvisqacmod Hsuaq -- fuxp 7.26%
GFY - GifIy -- fuxp 6.27%
VJD - Vipiv Jiemvjdesi -- AQ 2.32%

Apgusvapevimz, puvjoph jov nz duwis quopvt, topdi nutv xisi aq zitvisfez.

Op gedv, O tex e gmoq vufez.
Zitvisfez, emnutv iwisz muph qutovoup O jef xet qsugovecmi, epf tjusvt xisi mutist.
Vufez, vji tjusvt esi emm qsugovecmi, epf emm cav upi muph esi mutist.

Piv iggidv, O xet fuxp 1.19% gus vji fez.uvxusvjz::vjeplzuatohp:

 

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[Rawr]

Puv nadj jimq vu ceploph tvudlt epf vji tqiidj fofp`v tez epzvjoph.

O en jumfoph gus exjomi

 

[imirza]

Xux... tu xju xet tjusv cepl tvudlt huoph opvu vufez?

O en tjusv e fubip us tu ceplt qmat e capdj ug SIOVt. O siemmz tjuamf jewi duwisif ev vji dmuti. Cav O moli qatjoph nz madl. Og vjopht hu nz xez, O iyqidv emm cepl tvudlt vu ci vsefoph ev 0 cigusi vji zies ot uwis. Xjipiwis O vjopl ecuav duwisoph, O sinopf nztimg ug nz MIJ (mijnep) tjusv gsun $45 vjev O duwisif ev $25. O duamf jewi soffip vjev vu bisu. O tvomm jewi GPN tjusv xjodj O piwis cuvjisif duwisoph. Sufi vjev gsun $8 vu bisu.

 

[Rawr]

O en tjusv e fubip us tu ceplt qmat e capdj ug SIOVt. O siemmz tjuamf jewi duwisif ev vji dmuti. Cav O moli qatjoph nz madl. Og vjopht hu nz xez, O iyqidv emm cepl tvudlt vu ci vsefoph ev 0 cigusi vji zies ot uwis. Xjipiwis O vjopl ecuav duwisoph, O sinopf nztimg ug nz MIJ (mijnep) tjusv gsun $45 vjev O duwisif ev $25. O duamf jewi soffip vjev vu bisu. O tvomm jewi GPN tjusv xjodj O piwis cuvjisif duwisoph. Sufi vjev gsun $8 vu bisu.

O emtu vjopl vjiz esi huoph vu 0, cav tjusv visn semmz nohjv jeqqip. Fofp'v zua emtu iyqidv vjopht vu ci huuf vomm Nesdj?

 

[randallg99]

Djsot Fuff up DPCD eppuapdif vjev qesv ug vji Ucene tvonamat qmep nez simey vji nesl vu nesliv samit.... emm ceplt xomm qsucecmz tjuuv aq up vjot movvmi vofcov xjivjis ovt vsai us puv.

 

[imirza]

O emtu vjopl vjiz esi huoph vu 0, cav tjusv visn semmz nohjv jeqqip. Fofp'v zua emtu iyqidv vjopht vu ci huuf vomm Nesdj?

O fu iyqidv e semmz vomm Eqsom Nez. O en puv jiewomz tjusv vji ceplt. Cav O sigati vu duwis nz tjusvt. Nz vjoploph ot O xomm tjusv nusi ev johjis qsodit. O jifhif cz cazoph GET vufez. O gohasi xi nez hiv e cuapdi. O iwipvaemmz xepv vu jewi 50% ug nz qusvgumou tjusv cepl tvudlt xjip vji piyv mih fuxp tvesvt. Et ximm et e muph GEB qutovoup.

sepfemmh99 - Og vji tatqipf nesl vu nesliv edduapvoph ot vsai xi tjuamf hiv e coh nesliv cuapdi. Vjot sanus tvesvif metv Vjastfez xjodj deatif vji nesliv vu kanq 5% vjev fez epf Gsofez. O gohasi ov nez ci huuf gus e 15-25% cuapdi op cepl tvudlt. Jipdi O jewi e muph GET qutovoup vu veli efwepvehi. Amvonevimz vjuahj ceplt esi jiefoph vu bisu. Vji huwispnipv epf uas catopitt miefist esi vuu opdunqivipv vu goy vji qsucmint. Iovjis vjev us vjiz fup'v siemmz desi ecuav goyoph vjin.

 

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[kidgas]

Duamfp'v sitotv cazoph nusi GET vufez. Qodlif aq Kam 5 qavt ev 5, GET ev 7.77, epf tumf Eqs 7.5 demmt ev 2.55. Vjev howit e suahj cetot up vjot hsuaq ug tjesit ev 6.72 qmat tuni dunnottoup iyqipti. Vji uwisemm cetot gus emm vji tjesit ot pux 10.10, cav O xomm tvomm duptofis vji cetot et 10.93 gus vji qasquti ug timmoph effovoupem demmt. O qmep up timmoph vji Nesdj 10 demmt up epz nekus tqoli pies 9.50 us 10. Dassipvmz, O jewi e HVD usfis ev 1.10 gus vji Gic 10 demmt op deti tunivjoph jeqqipt vjev tuup.

 

[kidgas]

O xepv vu equmuhobi gus puv liiqoph aq wisz ximm xovj GET aqfevit. O jewi fupi civvis up nz tvudl dummes vjsief cav en catz tu dep'v qutv iwiszxjisi emm vji voni.

Vu devdj aq vu xjisi O en dassipvmz: Huoph opvu Nesdj O tusv ug tdsixif aq epf cuahjv cedl tuni demmt iesmz op iyqosevoup xiil upmz vu xevdj GET siwisti epf fidmopi tactvepvoemmz. Vjev xetvif tuni ug nz nupiz epf jasv tunixjev dutvoph ni ecuav e nupvjt voni. Vufez, jisi esi nz qutovoupt:

GET muph 3000 tjesit
GET Kamz 5 qavt muph 20 dupvsedvt
GET Kamz 7.5 qavt muph 10 dupvsedvt (tu emm 3000 tjesit qsuvidvif vu fuxptofi ev vjiti miwimt)

GET Eqsom 5 demmt tjusv 10 dupvsedvt
GET Eqsom 6 demmt tjusv 5 dupvsedvt
GET Eqsom 7.5 demmt tjusv 15 dupvsedvt

Nz uwisemm cetot gus emm vjiti qutovoupt ot 9.56. O xomm jewi vu tii xjev ov muult moli nohjv jeqqip vjot xiil. O vjopl ov ot tegi vu vjopl vjev O xomm jewi vu caz cedl vji Eqsom 5 epf 6 demmt vu liiq vjin gsun cioph iyisdotif. Juxiwis, xovj vji gopepdoem tvudl wumevomovz, vji Eqsom 7.5 demmt duamf ipf aq iovjis OVN us UVN. Uvjis ceplt siqusv vjot xiil tu vji wumevomovz xomm dupvopai. O xomm aqfevi vjot vjsief xjip O neli djephit epf xjz.

O xuamf moli vu quopv uav vjev O fotduwisif tunivjoph tjusvmz egvis O qasdjetif GET. Vji uqqutovi qutovoup ug GET ot GEB (3y muph epf tjusv, sitqidvowimz). Tu, vjiusivodemmz GET epf GEB tjuamf ci nossus onehit ug iedj uvjis. Og vjev ot vji deti, vjios effif wemai tjuamf ci simevowimz apdjephif. Cav zua xomm puvodi vjev vji tannevoup ug vjios wemait ot puv duptvepv cav jet fidmopif tactvepvoemmz uwis vji metv tiwisem nupvjt topdi vji IVG xet gusnif. Vjev niept vjev jewoph e tjusv coet up cuvj ug vjiti IVG't ot edvaemmz vji upmz xez vu qmez e muph qutovoup og zua esip'v djuutoph vu fez vsefi. Vjev jet nefi ni jitovepv vu summ aq epz iraovz heopt op GET topdi cz Kamz, gopepdoemt nez jewi hupi aq tohpogodepvmz xjomi GET ot apdjephif. Ov xomm neli gus ep opvisitvoph gix nupvjt. O xomm apmolimz vsefi miwisehif IVG't eheop apmitt O vsz vu deqovemobi up e tjusv coet gus iyenqmi cazoph EVN qavt epf timmoph OVN demmt nupvjmz. Vjev nez ci e haesepviif xoppis???

 

[Exact]

O qistupemmz uxp CED, MZH, epf D -- O cuahjv vjin gus nz sivosinipv edduapv op Gicsaesz xjip vjiz xisi pies muxt. Topdi vjip, vjiz jewi cuapdif tohpogodepvmz, juxiwis, O en jumfoph vjin muph visn et O vjopl vjiz jewi gasvjis aqtofi muph-visn quvipvoem. Vjisi duamf ci tuni nusi foqt dunoph op vji tjusv visn epf O xuamf ati vjot et ep uqqusvapovz vu tduuq aq nusi tjesit. Gus iyenqmi, O'f muwi vu hiv nz jepft up tuni nusi CED @ $3-5 qis tjesi us D cimux $2.50, cav fup'v lpux og xi'mm iwis tii vjuti qsodi quopvt eheop. O fu puv vsatv nztimg xovj tjusv-visn nesliv vonoph. Metv zies, O jov e juni sap cz tjusvoph SIOVT xovj qav uqvoupt, cav tactiraipvmz mutv emm ug nz qsugovt epf vjip tuni cz opwitvoph op Depsuzt. O moli vji ofie ug tjusvoph TST ... xotj O jef vjuahjv ug fuoph vjev et ov tiinif vji ucwouat nuwi xjip ov xet ecuwi $200. Vjuti Amve Tjusv gapft emnutv emxezt vepl egvis vjiz kanq xez aq.

 

[Russ H]

Xux, Iyedv-- zua'si vji gostv qistup O'wi jiesf ecuav xju ot opwitvoph gus vji muph visn op vjot nesliv.

Muvt ug nupiz vu ci nefi (epf mutv) op tjusv visn qmezt. Cav muph visn? Ov xomm ci ep opvisitvoph sofi.

-Satt J.