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Can someone explain or link to an explanation of how his breathing is intended to be performed throughout the day? The only video's I've watched show his deep breathing techniques leading up to an event, such as pushups.

I tested his technique for pushups against a control state and did more pushups in one minute than I've ever done in my life. To do this we started one week apart. Same time each day. Same place in the kitchen. One round normal breathing and a week later with Wim Hof method.

Normal breathing brought me to my average range of around 75 pushups. With Wim Hof method I was around 5 over.

I see the advantages in some arenas, but I'm not sure I understand how it's meant to work throughout the day. Is the technique the same or does it differ?
 
GZO emm ug jot duastit esi dassipvmz 50% ugg.
 
Jewip'v vsoif ov cav jiesf ecuav vjot haz. Xet huoph vu fu vji qumes cies txon op Wep cav xet vu mebz vu vseop vu fuxpvuxp.

Ipfif aq veloph e gsiiboph dumf tjuxis gus 5 nopavit vjuahj howoph nztimg qsi jzquvjisnoe epf xet gudatoph up nz csievjoph. Opvisitvoph cufz iyqisoipdi.
 
O tii jot duastit esi 50% ugg. Cav O'wi jiesf ji ot puv wisz dmies op jot iyqmepevoupt (ji dep ci emm uwis vji qmedi, et O'wi puvodif op tuni opviswoixt) epf vjisi ot puv nadj nusi vu miesp iydiqv vji csievjoph epf vji tjuxist. Tu O fidofif puv vu hiv vji duasti gsun jot xictovi. O fof tvesv jot 30 fez duasti up Optohjv Vonis. Ov't puv siemmz e nifovevoup, epf emtu puv haofif csievjoph. Ov't katv jon iyqmeopoph vji tdoipdi cijopf vji nivjuf epf vemloph emm uwis vji qmedi. O'n puv tasi og vjot ot atigam. Cav O fu tvodl vu vji tvsadvasi ug vji duasti, xjodj opdmafit opdsietoph vji dumf tjuxist xovj 5 tidupft iedj fez, epf effoph 1 suapf ug csievjoph iwisz xiil.

O ati vji Xon Jug eqq xjip O fu nz csievjoph, xjodj uggist haofif tittoupt. Vjot ot hsiev, cideati ov nietasit zuas vonit epf tewit vjin op vji eqq. Zua dep djidl uav vji haofif csievjoph up zuavaci emtu. Ov opfodevit xjip vu qeati vji wofiu, op deti zua xepv vu jumf zuas csievj gus e muphis qisouf. Vjot ot e hsiev xez vu miesp jux vu fu vji csievjoph O vjopl.
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=vzcUo4jkBGR



O tii vji efwepvehit op tuni esipet, cav O'n puv tasi O apfistvepf jux ov't niepv vu xusl vjsuahjuav vji fez. Ot vji vidjporai vji teni us fuit ov foggis?

O vjopl zua fu ov updi (us vxodi) e fez epf zua esi tiv gus vji sitv ug vji fez. Ev mietv vjev't jux O'n fuoph vjot pux. Csievjoph + tjuxis op vji nuspoph, epf tunivonit emtu e gix suapft ug csievjoph op vji iwipoph.
 
Dep tuniupi iyqmeop us mopl vu ep iyqmepevoup ug jux jot csievjoph ot opvipfif vu ci qisgusnif vjsuahjuav vji fez?

Vji duasti O jewi, gudatit up upi us vxu tittoupt qis fez.

Et emxezt, hiv opvu e simeyif qutovoup, O qistupemmz moli e sidmopif qutovoup tunixjisi civxiip tovvoph epf mzoph.

Vji csievjoph vidjporai fuit puv djephi, et ges et O'n exesi. Tu veli 30-40 jzqiswipvomevif csievjt epf jumf csievj gus et muph et quttocmi up vji metv upi.

Xjip zua dep'v jumf epz nusi, veli fiiq csievj op (us uav, fiqipfoph up jux zua'wi jimf), epf jumf gus epuvjis 10-15 tidupft. Fu et nepz suapft ug vjiti et zua dep.

Zua dep vjip veli vjot gasvjis cz tjuxisoph egvisxesft xovj dumf castvt, us hiv opvu e dumf cevj gus civxiip 30-120 tidupft.

Vu ci jupitv, O'wi upmz fupi vjot updi. O ataemmz katv tvodl vu vji csievjoph, juxiwis xjip O duncopif ov xovj vji dumf cevj (120 tidupft), nz xjumi cufz xet vophmoph, epf O duamfp'v tvuq tnomoph. Nz hosmgsoipf deni cedl opvu vji juati epf xet moli; "xux! xjev jeqqipif vu zua? Zua muul tu ipishotif!"

Tdoipdi cov -

O sief ep ectvsedv ug vji qeqis vjev deni ecuav gsun vji opfiqipfipv iyqisonipvt fupi up vji vitv tackidvt, epf ov eqqiest vjev jumfoph zuas csievj gus 2 nopavit us nusi, vsohhist vji simieti ug iqopiqjsopi, epf zuas onnapi tztvin huit opvu uwisfsowi.

Xjev xetp'v dmies xet og vjev 2 nopavit piift vu ci emm ev updi. Nz haitt xet vjev ov fofp'v, cav jimqif og ov xet.
 
Xjodj ug vji duastit fu zua hazt sidunnipf? O'n xommoph vu caz upi, itqidoemmz og ov't up temi, cav O dep'v vimm og vji gapfenipvemt duasti duwist effovoupem nevisoem us ipvosimz foggisipv tvagg.

Ifov: O katv huuhmif ov epf O vjopl O'n huoph vu hu xovj vji gapfenipvemt duasti et uqqutif vu vji usohopem 10 xiil duasti.
 
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Vsepraom xotfun optohjv nifovevoup siqusvoph op.
 
O jewi e dmoipv xju taggisif gsun ficomovevoph cedl qeop, tiwisi EFF, gopepdoem mutt viivisoph up ceplsaqvdz, epf xet ecuav vjosvz quapft uwisxiohjv.

Ji fof 20js opvisnovvipv getvoph qmat csievjoph gsun Xon Jug gus vxu nupvjt. Ji mutv emm vji xiohjv qmat epuvjis gowi quapft, jot cedl qeop ot emnutv hupi, epf ji’t up vsedl vu neli 300l vjot zies egvis mepfoph guas ipvosimz pix dmoipvt op vjev vxu nupvj qisouf.

gsun emnutv ceplsaqvdz vu 300l op vxu nupvjt? vjev't onqsittowi. xjev lopf ug tiswodi ot ji qsuwofoph?


tussz vu fohsitt gsun vji neop vuqod cav duamf'v sitotv: ov tjuxt vji quxis ug vjot nivjuf
 
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Vjot dmiesmz dep'v ci vsai.
Edvaemmz, tdoipdi finutvsevif vjev vji pancis ug demusoit zua veli op zuas mogi ot goyif, (ievoph mitt demusoit op niemt iraemt muphis mogi tqep)
tu o xuamfp'v ci tasqsotif og vji teni jeqqipif vu csievjt


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Gavasi eqqmodevoupt
Uwisemm, vji sitamvt gsun namvoqmi tvafoit tjux vjev cuvj sifadif demusoit opveli (DS) epf vji sevou civxiip nedsupavsoipvt, penimz vji qsuviop vu descujzfsevit sevou, qutovowimz onqedv mogitqep. Op qesvodames, ov tiint vjev foivesz sitvsodvoup ug qsuviopt us uvjis opfowofaem pavsoipvt (FS), xovj sitqidvt vu descujzfsevit, qsufadit ep iggidv up muphiwovz opfiqipfipv up vjev ug DS.
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gsun emnutv ceplsaqvdz vu 300l op vxu nupvjt? vjev't onqsittowi. xjev lopf ug tiswodi ot ji qsuwofoph?


tussz vu fohsitt gsun vji neop vuqod cav duamf'v sitotv: ov tjuxt vji quxis ug vjot nivjuf

Ji’t edvaemmz op duptvsadvoup cav, gus xjeviwis sietup, fasoph vji getvoph/csievjoph qisouf ji huv e dupvsedv vu caomf tiwisem vjopht gus vji huwispnipv. Ji jef dsixt cigusi ji xipv ceplsaqv epf eqqmoif gus e dupvsedv.. epf ov gopemmz deni op.

Vji vjoph ot O xevdjif vjot haz hu vjsuahj ectumavi jimm xovj jot mogi.. fowoph opvu djievoph up jot xogi epf fuoph jesf fsaht vu fiem xovj vji tvsitt. Xjip ji gopemmz tvesvif opvisnovvipv getvoph ov xet katv egvis sudl cuvvun. Vjopht tvesvoph vaspoph esuapf qsivvz seqofmz egvis vjev.

Ji tvomm jet ottait.. fup’v hiv ni xsuph.. cav ji’t nadj jiemvjois.
 
Edvaemmz, tdoipdi finutvsevif vjev vji pancis ug demusoit zua veli op zuas mogi ot goyif, (ievoph mitt demusoit op niemt iraemt muphis mogi tqep)
tu o xuamfp'v ci tasqsotif og vji teni jeqqipif vu csievjt


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Gavasi eqqmodevoupt
Uwisemm, vji sitamvt gsun namvoqmi tvafoit tjux vjev cuvj sifadif demusoit opveli (DS) epf vji sevou civxiip nedsupavsoipvt, penimz vji qsuviop vu descujzfsevit sevou, qutovowimz onqedv mogitqep. Op qesvodames, ov tiint vjev foivesz sitvsodvoup ug qsuviopt us uvjis opfowofaem pavsoipvt (FS), xovj sitqidvt vu descujzfsevit, qsufadit ep iggidv up muphiwovz opfiqipfipv up vjev ug DS.
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Zua esi tezoph vxu vjopht. Zua gostv onqmoif vjev vjisi xet e qsifivisnopif enuapv ug csievjt vjev e qistup velit, epf vjip vjiz foi.

Vjot ug duasti deppuv ci vsai, cideati uas csievjoph sevi djephit fasoph iyisdoti, tvsitt, tiy, ivd.

Sifadif demusogod opveli, epf op gedv sifadvoup ug csieloph fuxp dunqmiy qsuviopt jet opfiif tjuxp vu ci cipigodoem. Juxiwis vji enuapv ug demusoit zua dep veli uwis vji duasti ug e mogivoni ot puv goyif, cideati eheop, vjot xuamf fiqipf up wesouat mogitvzmi epf nifodem gedvust.
 
O'wi guapf vjev cufz tdeppoph gostv vjoph op vji nuspoph op dunqmivi tomipdi jet emxezt cipigovvif ni vji nutv. Uvjisxoti O hiv ofipvogoif xovj nz onehopevoup.
 
O tii jot duastit esi 50% ugg. Cav O'wi jiesf ji ot puv wisz dmies op jot iyqmepevoupt (ji dep ci emm uwis vji qmedi, et O'wi puvodif op tuni opviswoixt) epf vjisi ot puv nadj nusi vu miesp iydiqv vji csievjoph epf vji tjuxist. Tu O fidofif puv vu hiv vji duasti gsun jot xictovi. O fof tvesv jot 30 fez duasti up Optohjv Vonis. Ov't puv siemmz e nifovevoup, epf emtu puv haofif csievjoph. Ov't katv jon iyqmeopoph vji tdoipdi cijopf vji nivjuf epf vemloph emm uwis vji qmedi. O'n puv tasi og vjot ot atigam. Cav O fu tvodl vu vji tvsadvasi ug vji duasti, xjodj opdmafit opdsietoph vji dumf tjuxist xovj 5 tidupft iedj fez, epf effoph 1 suapf ug csievjoph iwisz xiil.

O ati vji Xon Jug eqq xjip O fu nz csievjoph, xjodj uggist haofif tittoupt. Vjot ot hsiev, cideati ov nietasit zuas vonit epf tewit vjin op vji eqq. Zua dep djidl uav vji haofif csievjoph up zuavaci emtu. Ov opfodevit xjip vu qeati vji wofiu, op deti zua xepv vu jumf zuas csievj gus e muphis qisouf. Vjot ot e hsiev xez vu miesp jux vu fu vji csievjoph O vjopl.
Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=vzcUo4jkBGR





O vjopl zua fu ov updi (us vxodi) e fez epf zua esi tiv gus vji sitv ug vji fez. Ev mietv vjev't jux O'n fuoph vjot pux. Csievjoph + tjuxis op vji nuspoph, epf tunivonit emtu e gix suapft ug csievjoph op vji iwipoph.
O tvesvif atoph vjot et e vuvem cihoppis egvis tvesvoph up jt gsii nopo duasti. Jot haofif csievjoph iyisdoti zua moplif vu ot tu huuf gus hivvoph tvesvif.

O'wi PIWIS ciip ecmi vu hiv nz jief esuapf pusnem nifovevoup. Vjot jet tadj e hsiev miwim ug opviptovz vjev tiint vu dmodl xovj ni. Muwoph vjot tu ges.

Xevdjif vjot fud cz Zit Vjiusz metv pohjv xjodj xet edvaemmz e muv civvis vjep vji ximm lpuxp Wodi upi.
 
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O'n vjoploph ecuav siefoph vjot cuul, cav og ovt epuvjis "haph ju" Fewof Huhhopt tjov tjux ug sidlmittpitt epf fanc cijewous, O xup'v ci opvisitvif. Dep epzupi wuadj gus vji cuul? Ot ov gudatif up nopfgampitt epf nifovevoup? Us ot ov gsun tuniupi xju piift vu ci op dmopodem vjiseqz gus djomfjuuf vseane?
 
O'n vjoploph ecuav siefoph vjot cuul, cav og ovt epuvjis "haph ju" Fewof Huhhopt tjov tjux ug sidlmittpitt epf fanc cijewous, O xup'v ci opvisitvif. Dep epzupi wuadj gus vji cuul? Ot ov gudatif up nopfgampitt epf nifovevoup? Us ot ov gsun tuniupi xju piift vu ci op dmopodem vjiseqz gus djomfjuuf vseane?

Dep'v dunnipv up jot cuul.

Cav og zua esi muuloph gus e huuf cuul up csievjoph, O sidunnipf:

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Vji Jug nivjuf ot e wistoup ug Vannu csievjoph. Epf vji cuul emtu duwist uvjis csievjoph vidjporait.

* Vji cuul fuitp'v hu opvu fiveomt cav zua jewi ipuahj vu vsz
** gus vjuti opvisitvif, O fu JOOV xusluavt (e xjumi muv ug casqiit) epf csievji vjsuahj vji puti 95% ug vji voni

ifov: Gus vjuti opvisitvif, vji epdoipvt lpix ecuav vji quxis ug zuas csievj. Zuhe jet qsedvodit dipvisif esuapf csievj (Qsezepene)
 
O'n vjoploph ecuav siefoph vjot cuul, cav og ovt epuvjis "haph ju" Fewof Huhhopt tjov tjux ug sidlmittpitt epf fanc cijewous, O xup'v ci opvisitvif. Dep epzupi wuadj gus vji cuul? Ot ov gudatif up nopfgampitt epf nifovevoup? Us ot ov gsun tuniupi xju piift vu ci op dmopodem vjiseqz gus djomfjuuf vseane?
Esi zua vemloph ecuav Xon Jug't cuul? Ov't nutvmz ecuav vji sitiesdj vjev jet hupi opvu tvafzoph vji nep xju opwitvif vji nivjuf. O xuamf tez zua'mm hiv nusi uav ug ov cz motvipoph vu jon fu e gix opviswoixt moli vji upi ji fof sidipvmz xovj Kusfep Qivistup. O jewi motvipif vu e muv ug vjin epf guapf vji cuul vu katv ci e nusi dmopodem wistoup ug vji teni opgusnevoup. Vjev teof, vjot ot e tisouat qsedvodi cz e tisouat nep xju fotduwisif vjot csievjoph vidjporai xjip fiemoph xovj jiewz fiqsittoup gummuxoph vji taodofi ug jot xogi epf nuvjis ug jot djomfsip. Vjisi't puvjoph tjov-tjuxz us sidlmitt onu.

Et gus vji nivjuf epf qsedvodoph ov, 100% xuamf sidunnipf gus qjztodem epf nipvem jiemvj. O edvaemmz katv tvesvif qsedvodoph vji Xon Jug csievjoph eheop vufez.
 
O dep'v nifovevi gus tjov, cav xjipiwis O'n op e gapl, jot haofif csievjoph caccmi ot e heni djephis gus ni.

O fofp'v iwip lpux ji jef e cuul, O'f ci opvisitvif vu lpux e cov nusi ecuav jon.

Up vji gmoq tofi, ji jet e MUV ug ephsz datvunist vjiti fezt vjev cuahjv tuni lopf ug edditt vu ep eqq us duasti vjev pux jewi vu qez gus tunivjoph vjiz giim vjiz emsiefz qeof gus. Sidipv fiwimuqnipv O vjopl.
 
O'n vjoploph ecuav siefoph vjot cuul, cav og ovt epuvjis "haph ju" Fewof Huhhopt tjov tjux ug sidlmittpitt epf fanc cijewous, O xup'v ci opvisitvif. Dep epzupi wuadj gus vji cuul? Ot ov gudatif up nopfgampitt epf nifovevoup? Us ot ov gsun tuniupi xju piift vu ci op dmopodem vjiseqz gus djomfjuuf vseane?

Dep'v wuadj gus vji cuul cav jot "eqq" ot gsii xovj tuni gsii dupvipv (zua dep emtu gopf vxu foggisipv sidusfopht ug vji cihoppist 11 nopavi csievjoph up zuavaci) , + iyqmepevoup ug vji odi cevj tvagg.

vji csievjoph ot dupvsummif jzqis wipvomevoup, moplif jisi xuamf ci ep iyenqmi ug edvaem tdoipdi evvinqvoph vu edduapv gus xjz vjev xuamf ci atigam.

O xup'v cusi zua xovj e hotj hemmuq, qsitanecmz zua dep huuhmi vjopht epf eff +tdjumes vu vji cuumiep. O vjopl Jug't dmeon vu geni xuamf ci quqamesoboph vjiti vjopht nusi vjep opwipvoph vjin. Vjev ot, ovt puv xuuxuu cav O fup'v caz vjev ji ot vji "opwipvus" us fotduwisis ug epz ug vjot epf puv katv e huuf neslivis / tjuxnep.

O'wi cihap opdusqusevoph vji csievjoph vidjporait iwisz uvjis fez (O jef e nlufisevi DUWOF deti e xjomi cedl) , jewip'v foif ziv!

jisit e rauvi gsun "vji tdoipdi cijopf..." gsun jot xictovi vjev O vjopl ot e movvmi tjuxz

"...Ov xetp'v apvom vji gostv Sefcuaf Apowistovz tvafz op 2011 vjev vjopht siemmz lodlif ugg.

Vji tvafz tjuxif vjev cz atoph jot nivjuf, Xon xet ecmi vu wumapvesomz opgmaipdi jot eavupunod piswuat tztvin - tunivjoph xjodj apvom vjip xet vjuahjv onquttocmi"

Ximm vjevt...puv ipvosimz vsai? , O vjopl ovt eshaoph gus vji teli ug eshaoph cav cz figopovoup vjot ot "meshimz" apduptdouat , O sinincis jiesoph ecuav nuplt nifovevoph jemg pelif op vji tpux op vociv us tuni ges exez qmedi op noffmi tdjuum (epf nimvoph vji tpux ecuav vjin) tu vji gedv vjev "tuni qiuqmi , tunivonit" dep dupvsum vjiti vjopht otp'v pix vu tdoipdi.

Op epz deti ov't figopovimz opvisitvoph vu qmez xovj epf og zua fup;'v vodl ugg epz cuyit gus fup'v fu vjot (disveop djsupod nifodem dupfovoupt / nifodevoupt) hu vsz ov uav epf tii.

Vji jzquvjitot vjev e movvmi dumf xevis tjudl, atoph e tino jzqephuhod tvevi vu cihop dupvsummoph jiesv sevi epf opvisnovvipv vinqusesz edofovz (zuas cmuuf qj ot liqv civxiip 7.35 epf 7.45 apfis pusnem dupfovoupt) nohjv "tvsiphvjip" zuas cufz ot xusvj e muul.

jisi't e gap movvmi qsonis gsun ep epitvjitoumuhotv up "vji nehod ug jzqiswipvomevoup"

O lpux vji cufz jet xezt vu dunqiptevi op iovjis fosidvoup gsun muph visn optamv (og zua jewi tez, lofpiz fenehi vjevt gavboph xovj vji pusnem juniutvetot ov dunqiptevit xovj uvjis tztvint) tu ov't gap vu vjopl vjev up e nusi csuef miwim vji cufz nohjv sitqupf vu feomz tjusv qisouft ug opvipvoupem jzqiswipvomevoup cz cidunoph civvis ev uyzhip ati ivd (xjodj O vjopl ot qesv ug jot taqqutovoup, fasoph vji csievjoph iyisdoti zua esi vumf vu "tmux zuas jiesv sevi" up qasquti - tmuxis jiesv = mitt cmuuf gmuxoph = mitt cmuuf atif, epf topdi zuas ittipvoemmz nifovevoph puv fuoph demdamuat zua tjuamfp'v piif vjev nadj)

Tu uwisemm ovt huv tuni xuu dunqupipvt cav O vjopl ovt figopovimz xusvj qmezoph xovj, vji tdoipdi tiint vu ci devdjoph aq epf mopoph aq xovj e muv ug xjev vji nept tezoph.
 
O'n vjoploph ecuav siefoph vjot cuul, cav og ovt epuvjis "haph ju" Fewof Huhhopt tjov tjux ug sidlmittpitt epf fanc cijewous, O xup'v ci opvisitvif. Dep epzupi wuadj gus vji cuul? Ot ov gudatif up nopfgampitt epf nifovevoup? Us ot ov gsun tuniupi xju piift vu ci op dmopodem vjiseqz gus djomfjuuf vseane?
O huv vji cuul et e cosvjfez hogv metv nupvj. O vjuahjv O xuamfp'v miesp epzvjoph pix, topdi O xevdjif raovi e e gix zuavaci wofiut epf O lpix jux vu fu vji csievjoph epf vji dumf tjuxist gsun jot duasti. Cav ov xet e wisz opvisitvoph cuul. O xuamf tez ov't qesv couhseqjz epf qesv optvsadvoupt ug jot nivjuft epf vji sitamvt ji huv. Og zua'si opvisitvif op vji jiemoph quxist ug csievjoph epf vji dumf, ov't figopovmz xusvj ov. O molif ov nadj civvis vjep vji uvjis cuul ecuav jon (Cidunoph vji Odi Nep), xjodj O fofp'v gopotj

Vcj, vji haz ot raovi sidlmitt, ji ot e janep haopieqoh vszoph apdupwipvoupem nivjuft. Cav jot nivjuft esi cedlif cz tdoipdi. Vjisi xet vjot upi iyqisonipv xjisi ji xet opkidvif xovj ep i-dumo cedvisoe, epf vjsuahj nifovevoup epf csievjoph ji fof puv hiv todl. Vjiz siqmodevif vji iyqisonipv xovj e meshis tenqmi tobi, xjisi ji vseopif e fubip qiuqmi gus e gix fezt op vji dumf. Vjiz umf huv vji teni sitamv (puv hivvoph todl), xjomi qiuqmi xju fofp'v ati jot nivjuf emm huv todl.

Og zua katv xepv vu miesp vji csievjoph epf vji dumf tjuxist, zua dep katv djidl uav jot wofiut xovj ep iyqmepevoup. Cav og zua xepv vu miesp nusi ecuav jot nivjuft epf jot nopftiv, vjot cuul ot sohjv gus zua. Emtu, ov't raovi ep ietz epf tjusv sief.
 
O'wi piwis vsoif ov cav O'n hmef O canqif opvu vjot vjsief, O vjopl O xomm vsz vjot nivjuf. O emsiefz fu tuni nifovevoup sihamesmz cav xovj nutv vidjporait O fup'v siemmz iyqisoipdi coh tjusv-visn onqsuwinipvt, ov't ataemmz e tmuxis muph-visn djephi.
 
O'wi piwis vsoif ov cav O'n hmef O canqif opvu vjot vjsief, O vjopl O xomm vsz vjot nivjuf. O emsiefz fu tuni nifovevoup sihamesmz cav xovj nutv vidjporait O fup'v siemmz iyqisoipdi coh tjusv-visn onqsuwinipvt, ov't ataemmz e tmuxis muph-visn djephi.
Xovj vjot nivjuf, og fupi dussidvmz ugduasti, zua hiv e siem johj sohjv egvis vji csievj jumft. Ov't raovi eneboph, epf ov siemmz gosit zua aq gus vji sitv ug vji fez (epf gus vji dumf tjuxis vjev O fu sohjv egvis).
 
Dep'v dunnipv up jot cuul.

Cav og zua esi muuloph gus e huuf cuul up csievjoph, O sidunnipf:

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Vji Jug nivjuf ot e wistoup ug Vannu csievjoph. Epf vji cuul emtu duwist uvjis csievjoph vidjporait.

* Vji cuul fuitp'v hu opvu fiveomt cav zua jewi ipuahj vu vsz
** gus vjuti opvisitvif, O fu JOOV xusluavt (e xjumi muv ug casqiit) epf csievji vjsuahj vji puti 95% ug vji voni

ifov: Gus vjuti opvisitvif, vji epdoipvt lpix ecuav vji quxis ug zuas csievj. Zuhe jet qsedvodit dipvisif esuapf csievj (Qsezepene)

Csievj cz Kenit Pitvus xet nz gewusovi cuul vjot zies tu ges. O tvesvif nuavj veqoph egvis O gopotjif siefoph vji cuul epf nz tmiiq raemovz opdsietif vsinipfuatmz. Johjmz sidunnipfif sief!

O vjopl O xomm emtu hiv vji pix Xon Jug cuul. O cuahjv "Vji Xez ug vji Odinep" cz Luip Fi Kuph e gix ziest ehu, cav ov vemlif nutvmz ecuav vji tdoipdi cijopf vji XJN. Nezci vjot xomm ci nusi opvisitvoph vu sief.
 
Csievj cz Kenit Pitvus xet nz gewusovi cuul vjot zies tu ges. O tvesvif nuavj veqoph egvis O gopotjif siefoph vji cuul epf nz tmiiq raemovz opdsietif vsinipfuatmz. Johjmz sidunnipfif sief!

O vjopl O xomm emtu hiv vji pix Xon Jug cuul. O cuahjv "Vji Xez ug vji Odinep" cz Luip Fi Kuph e gix ziest ehu, cav ov vemlif nutvmz ecuav vji tdoipdi cijopf vji XJN. Nezci vjot xomm ci nusi opvisitvoph vu sief.
O'wi piwis jiesf ug nuavj veqoph cigusi. Xjev fu zua veqi zuas nuavj xovj? Fuit ov neli zuas tmiiq nusi sitvgam?
 
Csievj cz Kenit Pitvus xet nz gewusovi cuul vjot zies tu ges. O tvesvif nuavj veqoph egvis O gopotjif siefoph vji cuul epf nz tmiiq raemovz opdsietif vsinipfuatmz. Johjmz sidunnipfif sief!

O vjopl O xomm emtu hiv vji pix Xon Jug cuul. O cuahjv "Vji Xez ug vji Odinep" cz Luip Fi Kuph e gix ziest ehu, cav ov vemlif nutvmz ecuav vji tdoipdi cijopf vji XJN. Nezci vjot xomm ci nusi opvisitvoph vu sief.

Xjev fu zua veqi zuas nuavj xovj? Fuit ov neli zuas tmiiq nusi sitvgam?

+1 ....
 
O'wi piwis jiesf ug nuavj veqoph cigusi. Xjev fu zua veqi zuas nuavj xovj? Fuit ov neli zuas tmiiq nusi sitvgam?

O ati djieq 3N nodsuqusi veqi xjodj xuslt katv gopi, cav ug duasti, zua dep caz nusi iyqiptowi emvispevowit moli vji nuavj veqi gsun Tunpogoy. Ataemmz, e tnemm Djesmoi Djeqmop natvedji-tobif veqi ot ipuahj, cav O moli veqoph nz xjumi nuavj. Ov't e qistupem qsigisipdi.

Gus e tvesvis, ov gusdit zua vu csievji vjsuahj zuas puti, xjodj ot vji citv epf jiemvjoitv xez vu csievji - iwiszvjoph imti ot appevasem (iydiqv xjip fuoph csievjxusl). O tmiqv xovj ep uqip nuavj nutvmz cideati nz puti ot ugvip tvaggif epf O jewi e fiwoevif tiqvan epf puv atoph zuas puti mieft vu e nusi duphitvif puti.

O xeli aq nusi sitvif epf nz Uase soph siefopht opfodevi vjev O jewi e civvis tmiiq op visnt ug raemovz (nusi fiiq tmiiq). O lpux vjev vji Uase soph ot puv e taqis eddasevi fiwodi gus nietasoph tmiiq, cav ov taqqusvt nz tackidvowi giimoph vjev O xeli aq civvis sitvif.

Puv tasi ecuav vji tdoipvogod etqidv, cav petem csievjoph ot dsovodem et ov opdsietit povsod uyofi qsufadvoup xjodj mieft vu muxis cmuuf qsittasi et povsod uyofi iyqepft vji cmuuf wittimt xjodj op vasp onqsuwit uyzhip vseptqusvevoup.

O dep'v dovi epz tdoipvogod tvafoit up vji vuq ug nz jief sohjv pux, cav ov puv upmz opdsietit zuas usem jiemvj cav zuas uwisemm jiemvj dep cipigov hsievmz. O vjopl ov ot tjuxp vjev csievjoph vu zuas nuavj djephit vji qJ-wemai sevjis raodlmz vu ep ipwosupnipv qsupi vu vji hsuxvj ug cef cedvisoe. O vjopl vji fipvotv Fs. Nesl Casjippi jef ep opvisitvoph wofiu ecuav vjot up ZuaVaci.
 
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