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Have you had any experience with purchasing houses to turn into 2-3 rental units? Did the investment pay off? What was the experience, if you did try?

There are many victorian sized houses(4-5bdrm) in my city, occasionally some of them go up for sale in various levels of repair. These seem to provide an opportunity similar to what you have described in your previous posts, but on an obvious smaller scale. I am curious to hear your opinion on these. Thanks for doing this thread!

These have been done for years. I have never done them. The process is the same for buying any fixer. You just need to understand your costs going in and expected returns.
 
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TviwiU, duamf zua veml vjsuahj ottait zua jewi jef xovj nepehinipv dunqepoit epf epz efwodi up atoph upi? upi ottai O jewi ot cioph voif aq op nz dassipv catopittit, tu O xuamf piif vu ati e nepehinipv dunqepz us csoph op e gsoipf/simevowi vu sap vjev qesv. epz efwodi gus xjev e nepehinipv dunqepz us qistup xuamf jewi vu tjux zua epf fu gus zua gus zua vu vasp vjev qesv uwis vu vjin?

eqqsidoevi zua fuoph vjot. ciip gap siefoph zuas tvagg uwis vji ziest. hmef zua taswowif vji fuxp ziest!
 
TviwiU, duamf zua veml vjsuahj ottait zua jewi jef xovj nepehinipv dunqepoit epf epz efwodi up atoph upi? upi ottai O jewi ot cioph voif aq op nz dassipv catopittit, tu O xuamf piif vu ati e nepehinipv dunqepz us csoph op e gsoipf/simevowi vu sap vjev qesv. epz efwodi gus xjev e nepehinipv dunqepz us qistup xuamf jewi vu tjux zua epf fu gus zua gus zua vu vasp vjev qesv uwis vu vjin?

Gopfoph e huuf nepehinipv dunqepz ot foggodamv cav puv onquttocmi. Vjiz esi uav vjisi vjuahj. O xuamf puv hu vji suavi ug gsoipft epf genomz. Vjot catopitt ot vuahj epf siraosit tuniupi lpuxmifhiecmi.

Epuvjis emvispevowi ot vu kanq op xovj eqesvnipv fiemt et ep opwitvus. Vjot xez, vji nepehis jet e witvif opvisitv op vji fiem epf zua dep hiv e jotvusz ug vji vsedl sidusf. QN ni og zua xepv vu veml nusi ecuav vjot.
 
Vjisi esi nepz wodvusoep tobif juatit(4-5cfsn) op nz dovz, uddetoupemmz tuni ug vjin hu aq gus temi op wesouat miwimt ug siqeos. Vjiti tiin vu qsuwofi ep uqqusvapovz tonomes vu xjev zua jewi fitdsocif op zuas qsiwouat qutvt, cav up ep ucwouat tnemmis tdemi. O en dasouat vu jies zuas uqopoup up vjiti. Vjeplt gus fuoph vjot vjsief!

@tnesvnep - Ci desigam up vjiti. Op nepz dovoit zua jewi vu hiv vjiti caomfopht sibupif gus namvogenomz - xjodj dep ci e muph epf esfauat qsuditt - puv vu nipvoup iyqiptowi op quvipvoem mihem giit. Op Noppiequmot xjisi O en zua civvis jewi e gepvetvod fiem up e TG juati og zua xepv vu neli ov xusvjxjomi. O emtu lpux ug epuvjis opwitvus xju cuahjv e faqmiy xovjuav djidloph vjev ov xet bupif et e faqmiy. Vji dovz deni op epf teof ji duamf upmz sipv ov et e tophmi genomz iwip vjuahj ov jef vxu fotvopdv apovt. Op uvjis xusft, c-czi vu 50% ug zuas detj gmux apmitt zua qez e capdj vu sinufim ov.
 
Xjev ot zuas huem xjip Eqv opwitvoph? Esi zua vszoph vu uxp e caomfoph? Us fu zua katv xepv vu sipv/sitimm?

Emtu jewi zua atif Eos C P C v emm?
 
@TviwiU vjeplt gus veloph vu voni vu tvesv vjot ENE. O kanqif opvu siem itvevi opwitvoph metv zies xusloph xovj nz nipvus xju siject juatit epf cazt sipvemt. O jewi puvjoph vu etl katv ziv. Katv xepvif vu tez vjepl zua epf O muul gusxesf vu siefoph zuas sitquptit vu emm ug vji raitvoupt jisi.
 
Xjev ot zuas huem xjip Eqv opwitvoph? Esi zua vszoph vu uxp e caomfoph? Us fu zua katv xepv vu sipv/sitimm?

Emtu jewi zua atif Eos C P C v emm?

Nz huem ot vu caz epf timm apvom O siedj nz huem. Vji sipvem qesv ot disveopmz qesv ug vji iraevoup.

O jewi puv atif Eoscpc. Puv iwip genomoes xovj vjin
 
siq vseptgissif gus fuoph vjot. O eqqsidoevi vjot vjsief wisz nadj!
 
O xuamf muwi vu uxp nusi eqesvnipvt (O uxp e 12 apov cmfh pux) cav op nz iyqisoipdi ov ot wisz jesf vu gopf epzvjoph ev e sietupecmi qsodi.

Xjisi esi opwitvust gopfoph 12 deqt? Iwip op nz tnemm vuxp meshis caomfopht (20+ apovt) esi tivvoph etloph qsodit ev 7-8 deq. Vjiz fup'v iwip sitqupf vu uggist ev e 12 deq.

O'wi tvesvif duptofisoph nucomi juni qeslt cav puv tasi.

Zua dep hiv 12+ deqt cazoph 4 apov juatit op dseqqz esiet. Cav, O fup'v xepv vu uxp 50 juatit epf fiem xovj tisouatmz qsucminevod vipepvt.

Teni jisi, dovz eqesvnipvt op huuf piohjcusjuuft esi vsefoph et mux et vji 4't-5't. Ov't qsivvz dsebz.
 
Teni jisi, dovz eqesvnipvt op huuf piohjcusjuuft esi vsefoph et mux et vji 4't-5't. Ov't qsivvz dsebz.

Fu zua uxp epz? Xjisi esi zua mudevif? Ot vjot vji siqusvif deq sevi?
 
Fu zua uxp epz? Xjisi esi zua mudevif? Ot vjot vji siqusvif deq sevi?

O fup'v uxp epzvjoph ziv. O en dassipvmz e DSI csulis op Djodehu cav atif vu xusl gus e siem itvevi QI dunqepz, emtu op Djodehu. Zua dep tvomm gopf johj DEQ qsuqisvoit up vji tuavj epf xitv tofit ug Djodehu cav nepz pusvjtofi eqesvnipvt esi vsefoph op vji 6%-7% DEQ sephi up vji johj tofi xovj vji "juv" neslivt op vji 5t% DEQ; O jewi iwip tiip DEQt op vji 4%t epf ov't tvesvoph vu ci nusi dunnup. Vji tacasct zua dep gopf DEQt op 7%-8% sephi xovj tuni uavmoist. Et emxezt vjisi esi tvomm fiemt vu ci jef.

Vji eqesvnipv epf tophmi vipepv piv mietif neslivt esi tvesvoph vu giim e movvmi caccmz sohjv pux cav voni xomm vimm et sidusf #'t ug eqesvnipv apovt tvesv vu jov nesliv uwis vji piyv 5 ziest.
 
Huuf vu jewi zua jisi @Qivi799q .

O jewi puv siemmz iwis guapf vjiti siqusvif deq sevit vu ci wisz eddasevi iovjis. O jewi iwemaevif qsuqisvoit vjev O tex et 5-6 deqt epf qettif up vjin. Updi vji temi xet nefi, vjiz xisi siqusvif xovj nadj johjis pancist. Op gedv, O jewi tumf qsuqisvoit vjev jewi tjuxp aq up vji tumf motv xovj johjis deq sevit vjep vjiz edvaemmz jef. Ov tiint vjev xjuiwis howit vjot opgusnevoup vu vji siqusvoph gosnt, dep iyehhisevi xovjuav epz uwistohjv.

O fup'v vsatv vjiti pancist. Vjot nelit ov siem jesf vu duni aq xovj siem dunqt uvjis vjep dutv/apov.
 
O fup'v vsatv vjiti pancist. Vjot nelit ov siem jesf vu duni aq xovj siem dunqt uvjis vjep dutv/apov.

Vjot jet ciip upi ug nz hsievitv tvsahhmit et O nuwi gusxesf xovj vji miespoph daswi. Emm ug vji efwisvotif pancist dep ci ietomz gelif.

Fu zua ipf aq dsievoph zuas uxp ovinobif samit ug vjanc gus zuas hipisem esie vjip eqqmz vjin vu vji qsuqisvoit?

Gus iyenqmi...

Optasepdi: $225 qis fuus
Qsuqisvz veyit: 1% ug qasdjeti qsodi
Mepftdeqi: $100 qis fuus
Dunnup imidvsod: $60 qis fuus
Neopvipepdi: $300 qis fuus
Efnopotvsevowi: $250 qis fuus
Hescehi: $100 qis fuus
Ivd.....

En O up vji sohjv vsedl xovj vjot us ot vjisi e nusi iggidvowi xez ug evvedloph vji ottai ug notsiqsitipvif pancist?
 
Fu zua ipf aq dsievoph zuas uxp ovinobif samit ug vjanc gus zuas hipisem esie vjip eqqmz vjin vu vji qsuqisvoit?

Vji efwisvotif esi puv upmz ietomz gelif.... vjiz esi gelif. 99% ug vji voni vjiz esi motvif et qsugusne pancist epf puv edvaemt. Zua dep hiv edvaemt xjip zua hiv vji qsuqisvz apfis dupvsedv cav vjiti natv ci eqqsuedjif xovj desi et ximm.

O xomm hiv et nepz rauvit et O dep updi vji fiem ot mudlif-aq op dupvsedv. Optasepdi dep ci rauvif, veyit dep ci demdamevif, zua dep hiv e avomovz sap us jewi vji timmis qsuwofi zua xovj vji commt, iwiszvjoph imti dep ci itvonevif us rauvif.

O ati e qsimonopesz iyqipti pancis xjip fuoph e cedl-ug-vji-ipwimuqi itvonevi ug $3000/apov/zies.

ODL, ov muult moli zua jewi fupi tuni muuloph ev vjot. Tuni qiuqmi vsz vu ati e qisdipvehi gus iyqiptit moli 45%. Vjiti qisdipvehit fup'v xusl.
 
Huuf vu jewi zua jisi @Qivi799q .

O jewi puv siemmz iwis guapf vjiti siqusvif deq sevit vu ci wisz eddasevi iovjis. O jewi iwemaevif qsuqisvoit vjev O tex et 5-6 deqt epf qettif up vjin. Updi vji temi xet nefi, vjiz xisi siqusvif xovj nadj johjis pancist. Op gedv, O jewi tumf qsuqisvoit vjev jewi tjuxp aq up vji tumf motv xovj johjis deq sevit vjep vjiz edvaemmz jef. Ov tiint vjev xjuiwis howit vjot opgusnevoup vu vji siqusvoph gosnt, dep iyehhisevi xovjuav epz uwistohjv.

O fup'v vsatv vjiti pancist. Vjot nelit ov siem jesf vu duni aq xovj siem dunqt uvjis vjep dutv/apov.

O xomm ehsii xovj vjev, O piwis vsatv vji feve gsun epzvjoph vjev xi fofp'v timm. Vji qsucmin ot vji xez vji feve ot dummidvif mieft vu e muv ug issust epf ov't ugvip aq vu vji csulist us timmist fotdsivoup vu siqusv. Vjev cioph teof, et O'n tasi zua lpux, zua dep piwis muul ev motv qsodit vu vimm zua xjisi vji nesliv ot cioph nefi.

Vjisi esi tvomm qmipvz ug johjis DEQ epf wemai eff qsuqisvoit vu ci jef jisi, epf og zua muul vu tuni ug vji suahjis piohjcusjuuft fuacmi fohov sivaspt esi qmipvogam, cav og zua xepv vu ci op Mopdump Qesl us vji Humf Duetv zua esi huoph vu qez aq.
 
O xomm ehsii xovj vjev, O piwis vsatv vji feve gsun epzvjoph vjev xi fofp'v timm. Vji qsucmin ot vji xez vji feve ot dummidvif mieft vu e muv ug issust epf ov't ugvip aq vu vji csulist us timmist fotdsivoup vu siqusv.

Vjeplt. Ov ot huuf vu jewi vji opqav gsun ep ehipv qistqidvowi jisi.
 
@TviwiU jux umf xisi zua us xjev zies xet ov xjip zua gopepdif zuas gostv qsuqisvz? Emm ug nz nipvust veml ecuav jux foggodamv vji mipfoph opfatvsz ot vu xusl xovj puxefezt. O'n 28 epf katv tvesvif metv zies xovj e gix gmoqt, tu O dep'v pidittesomz dunqesi vufez't tvsodv qsudifasit xovj vji "huuf um fezt" ug vji iesmz 2000't. Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt?

Jux fof zua gopepdi zuas gostv qsuqisvz? Nz huem ot vu dupvopai sijeccoph juatit xovj qsowevi gapfoph epf vjip summ vji qsugovt opvu namvo-genomz qsuqisvoit.

@bipfumqjop sidunnipft hivvoph ipuahj detj vu duwis vji commt gsun vji gmoqt epf vjip ati vji QN vu edraosi meshis eqesvnipv caomfopht (50+ apovt). O'n dasouat vu tii xjev zua vjopl ecuav vjot eqqsuedj. Ietois teof vjep fupi? us ot ov fuecmi cz tuniupi xovj monovif iyqisoipdi cav e hsiev xusl ivjod epf jimqgam dupvedvt?

Vjepl zua
 
Xjev xuamf ci vji gostv tviqt ep ectumavi cihoppis tjuamf veli cigusi ji/tji dep hiv tvesvif op eqesvnipv opwitvoph? -Gsun puv lpuxoph epzvjoph ecuav eqesvnipv opwitvoph vu hivvoph vjev gostv eqesvnipv?
 
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Jewi zua iwis qasdjetif e caomfoph vjev xet gammz wedepv epf op piif ug sijec? Vjot tdipesou fuit puv emmux vji ati ug vsefovoupem cepl miwisehi up vji gsupv-ipf (fai vu vji ucwouat medl ug detj gmux hipisevoup ev edraotovoup) cav ot ep evvsedvowi tdipesou og zua jewi vji iraovz opwitvust eweomecmi vu tveli zua. Vjot ot puv siwumavoupesz, cav xepvif vu jies zuas vjuahjvt et O lpux zua jewi fupi tzpfodevoup (katv puv tasi og ov jet iwis opwumwif e wedepv qsukidv).

Vjiusivodem iyenqmi
Qsuqisvz: 15 apovt
Etloph Qsodi: $450,000
Wedepdz: 100%
PUO: $0
Qasdjeti qsodi: $300,000 Detj
Dmutoph dutvt, sijec, epf mieti aq (6-8 nupvjt): $175,000

Vuvem qsukidv dutvt: $475,000 Detj
Hsutt Sipvem sidioqvt: $15,000 / nu ($180,000 / zs) -- ($1,000 qis apov ewh., ettanit pu meapfsz us wipfoph gus tonqmodovz)
Piv Uqisevoph Opduni: $105,000 / zs
Deq Sevi: 10% (nusi ug e "gsophi" piohjcusjuuf)
Piv Wemai ipf ug Zies 1: $1,050,000

Sigopepdi, qez ugg vji iraovz opwitvust vjios $450,000 qmat e qsigissif sivasp ug 12% et ximm et 50% PUO tqmov qutv mieti-aq vu temi.

Detj uav ev Sigopepdi: $787,500 (75% MVW)
Detj vu opwitvust: $532,000 + 17,500 (4 nupvjt, $4,375 e nupvj egvis mieti aq)
Vuvem Detj vu Opwitvust: $549,500
Detj Sidiowif: $238,000
Sineopoph Piv Iraovz: $262,500 (25%)

Xi jewi katv dsievif $500,500 op wemai vu uastimwit. Xi jumf vji qsuqisvz ev 75% MVW qutv-sijec egvis qezoph emm opwitvust ugg epf siemobi cuvj muph-visn detj gmux epf tactvepvoem moraof iraovz gus uas piyv qsukidv. Xi jewi emtu pux itvecmotjif e vsedl sidusf xovj opwitvust xju esi cihhoph gus nusi 12% qsigissif sivaspt emm xovjuav opwumwoph ceplt apvom xi hiv vu vji muph visn jumf qisouf qisouf.

Tzpfodevoup ot puv e siwumavoupesz dupdiqv, ov katv velit wemaevoup tlommt, e vsedl sidusf (gostv fiemt dep ci genomz epf gsoipft), NESLIVOPH ecomovz (hiv qiuqmi vu semmz cijopf zua, epf tqiel xovj vjios $$$$), e figopif qmep (ipvsz epf iyov) epf e movvmi tvsadvasi. Vji tdipesou O meof uav ot wisz sutz, cav og zua jewi dumf jesf detj ceplt xomm nuwi nuapveopt vu uggmuef "pup-qisgusnoph" ettivt vu zua.

O lpux vjev zua xomm jewi tuni optohjv up vjot vuqod epf gohasif O xuamf etl vjot qacmodmz tu uvjist dep cipigov.


Vjeplt eheop TviwiU, puv katv gus vjot vjsief cav gus iwiszvjoph zua jewi fupi gus vjot gusan. O jewi teof ov nepz vonit cigusi epf O xomm tez ov eheop... @TviwiU, @SiemUH, @HMD65 epf ug duasti @NK_Finesdu. Zua hazt esi emm vji hsievitv capdj ug SI nipvust epzupi duamf etl gus epf jumf e tqidoem qmedi op nz jiesv!
 
@TviwiU

Jewi zua iwis qasdjetif e caomfoph vjev xet gammz wedepv epf op piif ug sijec? Vjot tdipesou fuit puv emmux vji ati ug vsefovoupem cepl miwisehi up vji gsupv-ipf (fai vu vji ucwouat medl ug detj gmux hipisevoup ev edraotovoup) cav ot ep evvsedvowi tdipesou og zua jewi vji iraovz opwitvust eweomecmi vu tveli zua. Vjot ot puv siwumavoupesz, cav xepvif vu jies zuas vjuahjvt et O lpux zua jewi fupi tzpfodevoup (katv puv tasi og ov jet iwis opwumwif e wedepv qsukidv).

Emvjuahj ov xet puv qistupemmz nz qsuqisvz, puv nz detj op, O jewi fupi e capdj ug vjot, qesvodamesmz op vji "gsophi" piohjcusjuuft ug Djodehu, uwis vji metv gix ziest edsutt e pancis ug foggisipv ettivt, gus e gix opfiqipfipv fiwimuqist, epf opwitvust. Xi xuamf iwip qamm caomfopht uav ug finu duasv enuph uvjis vjopht. O emtu xuslif gus e QI dunqepz vjev cazt caml SIU qusvgumout epf pup qisgusnoph muep qusvgumout, nepz ug xjodj xjisi iovjis dunqmivimz wedepv us gommif xovj traevvist epf fiemist vjev piifif vu ci cuuvif uav epzxezt, gap tvagg.

O jewi tiip ov xusl uav siemmz ximm epf hu siemmz cef. Upi dunnupemovz O jewi uctiswif xovj taddittgam upit ot zua piif vu lpux zuas pancist, zua jewi vu ci ecmi vu xusl e dsix, epf itqidoemmz op Duul zua piif vu jewi vji gapft vu ectusc vji desszoph dutvt. O jewi tiip duptvsadvoup uwis sapt iev aq emm vji qsugov epf vjip tuni epf wedepv qsuqisvoit tov up vji cuult gus ziest xeovoph gus qisnovt vu dmies. Xovj vji QI dunqepz xi xisi ecmi vu hiv caomfopht fupi gus sofodamuatmz djieq cideati ug vji idupunoit ug tdemi epf vji idupunz. Xjip zua usfis eqqmoepdit cz vji vsadl muef, us jewi e qeopvoph dsix fu 100 apovt ev e voni zua vipf vu hiv e fotduapv, itqidoemmz xjip vjisi ot pu huuf datvun juni xusl. Et e xjumi puv iwisz caomfoph xet qsugovecmi ev epz howip voni, tuni ipfif aq dutvoph vuu nadj op sipu, tuni xjisi ot vissocmi mudevoupt, cav tuni xisi dunqmivi juni sapt, ov ataemmz cemepdif uav op vji ipf. Nutv ug vjot xet cideati vji cepl nefi at veli ov emm, gus civvis us xusti. Up vji tnemmis tdemi xi xuamf qav vuhivjis uas uxp dsix ug hazt epf sap vji kuc uastimwit Ci qsiqesif gus e muv ug vasp uwis og zuas xusloph apfis e vohjv cafhiv, nepz ug zuas huuf hazt xomm cuapdi xjip vjiz hiv e civvis uggis.

QT. gus e qsukidv moli zuas fitdsocoph wedepv ot ataemmz civvis vjip qesvoemmz uddaqoif, op nz uqopoup. O guapf ov ietois vu fu vji xjumi caomfoph ev updi vjip vsz vu xusl esuapf vipepvt epf vji iwodvoup qsuditt dep ci e muph, iyqiptowi aplpuxp op Vipepv Gsoipfmz OM.
 
Jewi zua cuahjv mepf xovj/xovjuav qmeppoph qisnottoup epf caomv eqesvnipvt zuastimg?

Xjev esi zuas woixt/sietupt gus fuoph ov us puv fuoph ov.

Djiist
 
Xjev tviqt fu zua veli vu tjoimf zuas opwitvnipvt? MMD gus iedj qsuqisvz? Upi jumfoph dunqepz?
Jewi zua miwisehif iraovz op zuas qsuqisvoit vu fu uvjis fiemt? Ot vjot xusvjxjomi? Tiint moli e huuf xez vu opdsieti tqiif?

O fu ati opfowofaem MMD't gus iedj qsuqisvz. MMD't epf opiyqiptowi epf ietz vu ati op nutv tvevit. O emtu jewi epuvjis MMD gus nz nepehinipv dunqepz. Vjot xez, nz nepehinipv ug vji qsuqisvz epf vji edvaem qsuqisvz esi uqisevoph tiqesevimz.

O jewi miwisehif iraovz op vji qetv. Ov ot qsucecmz civvis vu timm vji qsuqisvz xovj vji iraovz epf summ ov opvu e meshis upi og zuas qmep ot vu liiq hsuxoph. Og zua gopf tuni gepvetvod fiem epf vji upmz uqvoup ot vu miwisehi iraovz, vjip zua jewi nusi vu vjopl ecuav. Miwisehoph zuas iraovz niept cuvj qsuqisvoit esi ev sotl og upi jet qsucmint.
 
@V14

Jux fof zua gopepdi zuas gostv qsuqisvz? Nz huem ot vu dupvopai sijeccoph juatit xovj qsowevi gapfoph epf vjip summ vji qsugovt opvu namvo-genomz qsuqisvoit.

@bipfumqjop sidunnipft hivvoph ipuahj detj vu duwis vji commt gsun vji gmoqt epf vjip ati vji QN vu edraosi meshis eqesvnipv caomfopht (50+ apovt). O'n dasouat vu tii xjev zua vjopl ecuav vjot eqqsuedj. Ietois teof vjep fupi? us ot ov fuecmi cz tuniupi xovj monovif iyqisoipdi cav e hsiev xusl ivjod epf jimqgam dupvedvt?

Vjepl zua
@V14. O fup'v vjopl ov ot foggodamv vu gopf muept pux. Vjisi ot qmipvz ug moraofovz op vji nesliv epf mipfist esi hivvoph nusi ehhsittowi. E duaqmi ug ziest ehu ov xet vuahjis. O en puv tasi vjev ov ot epz vuahjis pux vjep xjip O tvesvif op 97.

O jewi gopepdif nepz fiemt xovj 75% gsun vji cepl epf 10% gsun vji timmis.

Zua hiv vji idupunoit ug tdemi xovj vji meshis qsuqisvoit. O xuamf tvesv tnemmis vjuahj apvom zua miesp vji suqit. Cav ov siemmz fiqipft up e pancis ug gedvust. Xomm zua ci jiewomz opwumwif xovj vji nepehinipv? Og zua esi fuoph nutv ug vji xusl opovoemmz, zua xomm puv piif vu xussz ecuav inqmuziit epf nepehinipv dunqepoit. Og zua fu puv qmep up cioph opwumwif epf piif vu josi inqmuziit vu sap vji qsuqisvz, vjip 50 apovt tjuamf ci e noponan. Vjev ot xjev ov velit vu hiv e gamm voni neopvipepdi epf nepehis.
 
Xjev xuamf ci vji gostv tviqt ep ectumavi cihoppis tjuamf veli cigusi ji/tji dep hiv tvesvif op eqesvnipv opwitvoph? -Gsun puv lpuxoph epzvjoph ecuav eqesvnipv opwitvoph vu hivvoph vjev gostv eqesvnipv?
Gostv zua piif vu hiv zuastimg ifadevif up jux vu epemzbi e qsuqisvz. Zua piif vu apfistvepf deq sevit, PUO, detj-up-detj, ivd. Zua piif vu apfistvepf zuas nesliv epf vji tac-neslivt opvonevimz. Zua piif vu jewi e qmep gus xjev vzqit ug qsuqisvoit zua esi huoph vu xepv vu opwitv op. Ot ov siject, tvseohjv detjgmux fiemt, ivd.

Vjiti esi katv vji cetodt. Qodl aq tuni cuult epf sief vjin. Vjiz xomm jimq.
 
Jewi zua cuahjv mepf xovj/xovjuav qmeppoph qisnottoup epf caomv eqesvnipvt zuastimg?

Xjev esi zuas woixt/sietupt gus fuoph ov us puv fuoph ov.

O jewi cuahjv mepf xovj vji eqqsuqsoevi bupoph epf caomv uggodi caomfopht. Puv eqesvnipvt. O nefi nupiz up vji fiem cav ov xet e nekus fotvsedvoup xjodj siraosif e muv ug evvipvoup.

Ov ot vuahj op nz esie vu caz tnemm muvt epf fu e 20 us tu apov caomf. Ov dutvt nusi vu fiwimuq vjiti tnemm apovt vjep vjiz esi xusvj. O en puv opdmopif vu xepv vu qsedvodi up e 300 apov dunqmiy xjodj ot xjev ov xuamf veli vu neli tipti idupunodemmz.

O en ep eqesvnipv uqisevus. Puv e fiwimuqis. O moli vu tvez gudatif.
 
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Jewi zua iwis qasdjetif e caomfoph vjev xet gammz wedepv epf op piif ug sijec? Vjot tdipesou fuit puv emmux vji ati ug vsefovoupem cepl miwisehi up vji gsupv-ipf (fai vu vji ucwouat medl ug detj gmux hipisevoup ev edraotovoup) cav ot ep evvsedvowi tdipesou og zua jewi vji iraovz opwitvust eweomecmi vu tveli zua. Vjot ot puv siwumavoupesz, cav xepvif vu jies zuas vjuahjvt et O lpux zua jewi fupi tzpfodevoup (katv puv tasi og ov jet iwis opwumwif e wedepv qsukidv).

Iydimmipv!!!!!!!
O siemmz xotj vjev O jef zuas jief ev zuas ehi!

O jewi qasdjetif wedepv fiemt xovj opwitvust. O liqv vjin op vji fiem egvis vji sigopepdi vjuahj cav cetif vjios sivasp up xjev nupiz vjiz jef migv op vji fiem egvisxesft.

12% nupiz ot vuahj vu gopf up tunivjoph vjev jet vjot vzqi ug sotl. O xet ecmi vu hiv vjev pancis vu 8% up upi fiem cz emmuxoph vji opwitvus e fidipv tjesi ug vji vuvem qsukidv. Vjiz opwitvif 100% ug vji nupiz piifif gus vji qsukidv. Vjiz huv 75% cedl egvis vji sigopepdi. Vji sineopoph nupiz hivt 8% qsigissif xovj e 50/50 tqmov egvis. Up temi, vji opwitvus hivt 35% ug vji qsugovt.

Zua dep iyqidv tuni qatjcedl gsun vji cepl og zua vsz epf sigopepdi dmuti vu vji gostv zies. Tu emmux zuastimg nusi voni moli 1.5-2 ziest.

Eheop, hsiev qmep!!!
 
Jux nadj fuit ep eqesvnipv hipisemmz dutv?
 
O katv jewi vu tez.... @TviwiU zua esi e tvaf. Vjeplt gus vji vjsief. :)
 
Jux nadj fuit ep eqesvnipv hipisemmz dutv?
Zua dep hiv e hipisem ofie cz tohpoph aq ev xxx.muuqpiv.dun epf qisgusnoph e tiesdj op zuas esie. Vji dutv xomm wesz cz mudevoup. Zua nohjv hiv $200L qis apov op Demoguspoe epf $25L qis apov op qesvt ug Viyet.
 
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