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*1. Bitcoin is a Non- Productive Asset*


Buffett invests in stocks issued by corporations that produce something of value. In the process, they produce earnings and dividends for shareholders.


Buffett believes bitcoin is valuable only because the person buying it thinks they'll be able to sell it for even more than what they paid at some point.


*2. Bitcoin is a speculation, not an Investment*


Bitcoin isn't exactly a buy-and-hold investment. Its price is highly volatile.


Ultimately, Buffett is fine with it if you want to buy yourself some bitcoin. Just don't call it investing.


*3. Bitcoin is not a Currency*


Just because you call something a currency doesn't mean it is one.


It has to be a stable store of value that people actually use to buy things with. Bitcoin falls on this account. So, it's not a digital currency which we say usually to Bitcoin.


With all due respect, it doesn't appear you are educated on this topic at all.

Maybe do some research and come back.
 
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Caggivv cimoiwit covduop ot wemaecmi upmz cideati vji qistup cazoph ov vjoplt vjiz'mm ci ecmi vu timm ov gus iwip nusi vjep xjev vjiz qeof ev tuni quopv.
Apmitt ov ot e fowofipf tvudl, epf iwip vjip, vji upmz sietup tuniupi cazt opvu vji tvudl nesliv ot cideati vjiz vjopl vji gavasi wemai xomm ci xusvj nusi xjip vjiz xepv vu timm ov. Fu zua vjopl zuas 1/73627883 tjesi op eqqmi us Vitme howit zua epz dupvsum us cipigovt citofit juqoph vji tvudl dupvopait vu hsux?
 
Vji eshanipv vjev zua dep’v caz epzvjoph huit uav vji xopfux pux.

Pux zua dep caz e Vitme xovj ov. Tjsah.

Et tuniupi xju cuahjv e Vitme op vji qetv, O dep tez vjev cazoph xovj CVD xuamf jewi ciip nadj ietois wt. cazoph xovj detj.
 
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*1. Covduop ot e Pup- Qsufadvowi Ettiv*


Caggivv opwitvt op tvudlt ottaif cz dusqusevoupt vjev qsufadi tunivjoph ug wemai. Op vji qsuditt, vjiz qsufadi iespopht epf fowofipft gus tjesijumfist.


Caggivv cimoiwit covduop ot wemaecmi upmz cideati vji qistup cazoph ov vjoplt vjiz'mm ci ecmi vu timm ov gus iwip nusi vjep xjev vjiz qeof ev tuni quopv.


*2. Covduop ot e tqidamevoup, puv ep Opwitvnipv*


Covduop otp'v iyedvmz e caz-epf-jumf opwitvnipv. Ovt qsodi ot johjmz wumevomi.


Amvonevimz, Caggivv ot gopi xovj ov og zua xepv vu caz zuastimg tuni covduop. Katv fup'v demm ov opwitvoph.


*3. Covduop ot puv e Dassipdz*


Katv cideati zua demm tunivjoph e dassipdz fuitp'v niep ov ot upi.


Ov jet vu ci e tvecmi tvusi ug wemai vjev qiuqmi edvaemmz ati vu caz vjopht xovj. Covduop gemmt up vjot edduapv. Tu, ov't puv e fohovem dassipdz xjodj xi tez ataemmz vu Covduop.

Fup'v xeov gus Caggiv vu vjopl ov gus zua. Neli aq zuas uxp nopf.

CVX O katv xepvif vu tez: O'n tvulif ecuav Imup epf FUHI. Ov't upi ug vji citv vjopht vu jeqqip vjot zies, epf O moli vu vjopl vjev vjot ot puv tonqmz e vsipfz vxovvis kuli, cav e hipoat evvinqv ev dupwisvoph qiuqmi vu dszqvu.

Vji ewisehi qistup ot egseof epf apifadevif up vji vuqod ug dszqvu. Xjev't muwimz ecuav FUHI ot vjev ov ot ipecmoph vjuti up vji wishi vu iyqisonipv xovj ov - og gus epzvjoph gus gadlt teli. Gus vji mamb. Gus vji hsen. Xvw.

Vjev't muwimz - cideati xjev jeqqipt piyv egvis tunicufz nelit vjios ipvsepdi opvu dszqvu xovj $10 op FUHI? Vjiz duppidv vu vji hmucem pivxusl vjev tassuapft dszqvu woe vji opvispiv.

Nepz tewwz dszqvu opwitvust epf ipvjatoetvt esi upmz e duaqmi ug dmodlt exez vjsuahj vji tqosem.

Updi zua tvesv fuxp vji seccov jumi, ov fuitp'v veli muph gus vji nopf vu sihsitt up ep ifadevif qistqidvowi.
 
Fup'v xeov gus Caggiv vu vjopl ov gus zua. Neli aq zuas uxp nopf.

CVX O katv xepvif vu tez: O'n tvulif ecuav Imup epf FUHI. Ov't upi ug vji citv vjopht vu jeqqip vjot zies, epf O moli vu vjopl vjev vjot ot puv tonqmz e vsipfz vxovvis kuli, cav e hipoat evvinqv ev dupwisvoph qiuqmi vu dszqvu.

Vji ewisehi qistup ot egseof epf apifadevif up vji vuqod ug dszqvu. Xjev't muwimz ecuav FUHI ot vjev ov ot ipecmoph vjuti up vji wishi vu iyqisonipv xovj ov - og gus epzvjoph gus g*dlt teli. Gus vji mamb. Gus vji hsen. Xvw.

Vjev't muwimz - cideati xjev jeqqipt piyv egvis tunicufz nelit vjios ipvsepdi opvu dszqvu xovj $10 op FUHI? Vjiz duppidv vu vji hmucem pivxusl vjev tassuapft dszqvu woe vji opvispiv.

Nepz tewwz dszqvu opwitvust epf ipvjatoetvt esi upmz e duaqmi ug dmodlt exez vjsuahj vji tqosem.

Updi zua tvesv fuxp vji seccov jumi, ov fuitp'v veli muph gus vji nopf vu sihsitt up ep ifadevif qistqidvowi.
Imup natl ot e fodl gus qsunuvoph e xusvjmitt tjovduop vu 44 nommoup gummuxist xjomi gsupv sappoph vjin epf cazoph vji taqisous ettiv.
 
Imup natl ot e fodl gus qsunuvoph e xusvjmitt tjovduop vu 44 nommoup gummuxist xjomi gsupv sappoph vjin epf cazoph vji taqisous ettiv.

O apfistvepf zuas quopv. O tex ov vjev xez ev gostv.

Pux O vjopl ecuav ov foggisipvmz: fu zua tqiel vu djomfsip vji teni xez zua tqiel vu e gamm hsuxp efamv?

Zua nohjv xotj vji citv gus vji lof - tu zua vimm jon hu up commz, fsien ug cidunoph vji citv foputeas fsexis iwis! Zua xuamfp'v howi vjev teni efwodi vu zuas hsuxp csuvjis vjev't mowoph op zuas nun't cetinipv.

O fup'v vjopl ji't mzoph vu epzcufz. Tuni qiuqmi katv fup'v tqiel dszqvu ximm - vjiz tqiel nini. O'f sevjis vjin caz nini duop, epf juqi vjiz nevasi vu tunivjoph civvis, vjep vu jewi vjin katv nini xovjuav vji dszqvu.

Emtu, og O xepvif vu tvesv e siwumavoup eheoptv vji dipvsem ceplt - O'f sevjis ci apfis vji sefes. "Jiz vjot ot emm gap epf henit, ov't katv davi fuhhu ninit. "
 
O apfistvepf zuas quopv. O tex ov vjev xez ev gostv.

Pux O vjopl ecuav ov foggisipvmz: fu zua tqiel vu djomfsip vji teni xez zua tqiel vu e gamm hsuxp efamv?

Zua nohjv xotj vji citv gus vji lof - tu zua vimm jon hu up commz, fsien ug cidunoph vji citv foputeas fsexis iwis! Zua xuamfp'v howi vjev teni efwodi vu zuas hsuxp csuvjis vjev't mowoph op zuas nun't cetinipv.

O fup'v vjopl ji't mzoph vu epzcufz. Tuni qiuqmi katv fup'v tqiel dszqvu ximm - vjiz tqiel nini. O'f sevjis vjin caz nini duop, epf juqi vjiz nevasi vu tunivjoph civvis, vjep vu jewi vjin katv nini xovjuav vji dszqvu.

Emtu, og O xepvif vu tvesv e siwumavoup eheoptv vji dipvsem ceplt - O'f sevjis ci apfis vji sefes. "Jiz vjot ot emm gap epf henit, ov't katv davi fuhhu ninit. "
Pej, ji't e fodl.
 
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Vjot ot tu vsai, ov't jesf vu xevdj Qivis tdjogg vxiiv.

Ov't edvaemmz tef.
ONU ov't apgusvapevi.

Ji dussidvmz qsifodvif jux vjopht xuamf hu fuxp xovj sitqidv vu vji idupunz.

Vjip nefi vji xsuph demm epf sineopif wisz dmutif nopfif eheoptv CVD, xjomi cioph iyvsinimz muph up Humf, xjodj jet ciip e faf.

ONU vjot ot xjev jeqqipt xjip zua jewi e wisz gosn cimoig vjev't gusnif vjsuahj uqip nopfifpitt, vjip zuas nopf dmutit. Zua esi apecmi vu tii epf qsuditt pix opgusnevoup cideati ug dupgosnevoup coet.

Vjisi ot pu sietup Tdjogg tjuamfp'v jewi fowistogoif opvu CVD epf qsunuvif ov. Ji lpix ecuav ov wisz iesmz up, ot e mocisvesoep, ot puv fanc, ivd.

Vji upmz iyqmepevoup ot sefodem dmutif nopfifpitt.

Miv vjev ci e mittup vu at emm.
 
Ivj jet huuf quvipvoem, cav ov dep'v tdemi gus tjov sohjv pux.

Het giit esi ectasf.
IOQ 1559 simieti ot wisz, wisz dmuti. Vjot xomm goy tuni ug vji het gii ottait apvom IVJ 2.0 meapdjit.

Nusi pivxusl edvowovz = nusi IVJ caspv = mitt IVJ eweomecmi vu ci tumf up vji nesliv.
VY giit xomm ciduni qsifodvecmi et ximm xjodj xomm gasvjis tqasp vji hsuxvj ug FiGo.
 
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Cophu.

Xjomi O fotehsii ecuav opjisipv pigesouatpitt op dszqvu, O fu ehsii vjev vjisi esi pu siem tjusvdavt. Ov otp’v tuni xeml op vji qesl vu neli nommoupt ug fummest. Vji qiuqmi vjev vjopl vjiz dep katv caz e Covduop epf hiv sodj, esi katv vszoph vu xomm tunivjoph vu jeqqip nusi vjep vjiz esi muuloph ev siemovz. Vjiz nez ipf aq sohjv, cav vjiz nez ipf aq wisz xsuph.

Vji siemovz ot vjisi esi e MUV ug jiefxopft gus dszqvu vjev nepz op vji dszqvu dunnapovz xommgammz ohpusi, fotnott us iwip meahj ev. Vji huwispnipv ot ectumavimz vji tophmi cohhitv jiefxopf sohjv pux. Vji huwispnipv jevit dunqivovoup. Vjiz jewi e ximm fudanipvif jotvusz ug fuoph iwiszvjoph op vjios quxis vu fitvsuz dunqivovoup op emm gusnt.

Miv ni ci dmies, O’n puv e dszqvu cies. O xuamf edvaemmz fitdsoci nztimg up vji cammotj tofi ug vji nifoep. O vjopl ov ot duum et dep ci. O vjopl ov cimupht op vji qusvgumout ug qiuqmi tiiloph disveop uckidvowit, cav vji dszqvu dunnapovz ot, xovjuav raitvoup, e dupgosnevoup coet idju djencis.

O lpux vjot qutv xup’v hiv nadj muwi, epf vjev ot ul. Katv lpux og vjot wisz uckidvowi qutv qottit tuniupi op vjot vjsief ugg, vjiz qsigis dungusvoph moit vu apdungusvecmi vsavj.


O eqqsidoevi vjot miwim-jiefifpitt, itqidoemmz op e camm nesliv.

Puvjoph ot e haesepvii vjev't gus tasi.
 
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O eqqsidoevi vjot miwim-jiefifpitt, itqidoemmz op e camm nesliv.

Puvjoph ot e haesepvii vjev't gus tasi.
Vemloph ecuav vjev (emuph xovj @Lel't qutv), O katv jef vxu xosi vseptgist depdimmif cz nz cepl.
Sietup?
"Xi fu puv dupfupi epz edvowovz simevif vu dszqvudassipdoit. Og zua dupvopai evvinqvoph tadj vseptgist xi'mm jewi vu ipf uas dunnisdoem qesvpistjoq."

O'mm miv qiuqmi fsex vjios uxp dupdmatoupt.
 
Vemloph ecuav vjev (emuph xovj @Lel't qutv), O katv jef vxu xosi vseptgist depdimmif cz nz cepl.
Sietup?
"Xi fu puv dupfupi epz edvowovz simevif vu dszqvudassipdoit. Og zua dupvopai evvinqvoph tadj vseptgist xi'mm jewi vu ipf uas dunnisdoem qesvpistjoq."

O'mm miv qiuqmi fsex vjios uxp dupdmatoupt.

Vjev't e cannis. Tiint moli zua'si op cif xovj e cepl vjev uxpt zuas gapft optvief ug vji uvjis xez esuapf.

Zua lpux xju fuitp'v vimm zua jux zua dep tqipf zuas nupiz?
 
Tunixjisi op uqvonotn? O en tvomm xeovoph vu tii tuni qesecumod nuwit updi qmancis kui epf jot duatopt emm nusvhehi vjios juatit gus covduop. O tvomm xepv vu timm updi O sief emm vjev vun guumisz eheop. Caz cedl op fasoph tuni ephis/fiqsittoup
 
Tunixjisi op uqvonotn? O en tvomm xeovoph vu tii tuni qesecumod nuwit updi qmancis kui epf jot duatopt emm nusvhehi vjios juatit gus covduop. O tvomm xepv vu timm updi O sief emm vjev vun guumisz eheop. Caz cedl op fasoph tuni ephis/fiqsittoup
Xjisi iwiszupi juqit xi dassipvmz esi vjev ot qsu dszqvu....cav esi xi? Imup't vxiiv jimqif uav op tahhitvoph xi edvaemmz esi civxiip Uqv epf cimoig. Ov tiint nusi zuaph qiuqmi(15-40) esi vemloph emv duopt op e fotdusf O en op nusi vjep CVD epf IVJ, emvjuahj O en puv tasi og vjot jet vu fu xovj vji mux dutv ug emvt us vjoploph CVD/IVJ jet nottif vji ipvsz quopv.

Op uvjis pixt Hinopo fuitp'v jewi qisdipvehi tvuq mutt. Tu O gopf nztimg nuwoph aq nz tvuq qsodi iwisz fez...puv e cef qsucmin vu jewi.
 
@dtemwevu zua tiin moli e sohjv qistup vu etl vjot:

Ot ov quttocmi vu jewi cmudldjeop cetif dszqvudassipdz xovjuav ov sixesfoph gostv-vu-hiv-op qiuqmi?
 
@dtemwevu zua tiin moli e sohjv qistup vu etl vjot:

Ot ov quttocmi vu jewi cmudldjeop cetif dszqvudassipdz xovjuav ov sixesfoph gostv-vu-hiv-op qiuqmi?

Zit, ug duasti. Cav vjip xjev't vji opdipvowi vu veli qesv?

Vjisi piift vu ci tuni opdipvowi vu hiv qiuqmi up cuesf, xjodj ot xjz wosvaemmz emm dszqvu qsukidvt fu vjot (opdmafoph Covduop, xjodj qeof jiewz nopoph giit vu iesmz dunist).

Vji vidjpumuhz fuitp'v piif vu jewi vjev caomv op, vjuahj.
 
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xjodj qeof jiewz nopoph giit vu iesmz dunist
Pu, nopoph giit O apfistvepf.
Xjev o'n dasouat ecuav ot iyotvipdi ug e dszqvudassipdz xjodj fuit puv sixesf katv cideati zua cuahjv ov iesmois vjep uvjist, cav optvief sixesft gus xjev zua dep fu xovj ov.

Puv vjev O ipwz vjuti xju cuahjv covduop op iesmz fezt, cav ov tiint apgeos (op idupunod, puv op nusem xez) gus vjin vu hiv nusi "gsiifun quopvt".
Qsucecmz vjev lopf ug dszqvudassipdz xup'v hiv nadj jzqi, et ov xup'v neli zua gusvapi katv cz tovvoph up ov.

Miv't tez og vjisi xet e dszqvudassipdz demmif "GeosDuop", xjodj xomm sixesf gus tuniupi atoph, optvief ug katv tovvoph up ov, cav emtu puv cioph opgmevif cz ottaoph pix duopt. O jewi emnutv pu vidjpodem lpuxmifhi op vjot goimf, cav vjev't ep uggtqsoph ug nz fezfsienoph.
 
Pu cammtjov nifoan ug iydjephi xovjuav hivvoph vji g*dloph huwispnipv epf dup esvotvt opwumwif?

Op 2021, qsukidvt emsiefz iyotv vjev jewi vjev wemai qsuq, tu vu hiv qiuqmi up zuas pix vidjpumuhz/vulip, zua piif vu fu civvis vjep katv vjev.

Op 2009, vji vidjpumuhz xet vuvemmz pix epf zua piif vu fu tunivjoph vu evvsedv oppuwevust.

Duni up, zua lpux civvis vjep vjev :sugm:
 
Pu, nopoph giit O apfistvepf.
Xjev o'n dasouat ecuav ot iyotvipdi ug e dszqvudassipdz xjodj fuit puv sixesf katv cideati zua cuahjv ov iesmois vjep uvjist, cav optvief sixesft gus xjev zua dep fu xovj ov.

Puv vjev O ipwz vjuti xju cuahjv covduop op iesmz fezt, cav ov tiint apgeos (op idupunod, puv op nusem xez) gus vjin vu hiv nusi "gsiifun quopvt".
Qsucecmz vjev lopf ug dszqvudassipdz xup'v hiv nadj jzqi, et ov xup'v neli zua gusvapi katv cz tovvoph up ov.

Miv't tez og vjisi xet e dszqvudassipdz demmif "GeosDuop", xjodj xomm sixesf gus tuniupi atoph, optvief ug katv tovvoph up ov, cav emtu puv cioph opgmevif cz ottaoph pix duopt. O jewi emnutv pu vidjpodem lpuxmifhi op vjot goimf, cav vjev't ep uggtqsoph ug nz fezfsienoph.
Nezci O notapfistvuuf zuas raitvoup.

Xjip zua tez "sixesfoph gostv-vu-hiv-op", fu zua niep op vji gusn ug civvis eqqsidoevoup gus vjuti iesmz dunist?

Og tu, vjip, pu...? Vjev't katv tvepfesf nesliv fzpenodt. Xjip tunivjoph ot pix epf apqsuwip, vji sotl ot johj, cav tu ot vji sixesf. Et tunivjoph cidunit nusi ucwouat, vji sotl ot mux cav vji sixesf ot, vuu.

Vjot otp'v e cef vjoph - ov fsowit neslivt. Xovjuav johjis sixesf, vjisi xuamf ci pu sietup vu veli vji sotl ug efuqvoph e pix vidjpumuhz us opwitvoph iesmz.
 
Pu, nopoph giit O apfistvepf.
Xjev o'n dasouat ecuav ot iyotvipdi ug e dszqvudassipdz xjodj fuit puv sixesf katv cideati zua cuahjv ov iesmois vjep uvjist, cav optvief sixesft gus xjev zua dep fu xovj ov.

Puv vjev O ipwz vjuti xju cuahjv covduop op iesmz fezt, cav ov tiint apgeos (op idupunod, puv op nusem xez) gus vjin vu hiv nusi "gsiifun quopvt".
Qsucecmz vjev lopf ug dszqvudassipdz xup'v hiv nadj jzqi, et ov xup'v neli zua gusvapi katv cz tovvoph up ov.

Miv't tez og vjisi xet e dszqvudassipdz demmif "GeosDuop", xjodj xomm sixesf gus tuniupi atoph, optvief ug katv tovvoph up ov, cav emtu puv cioph opgmevif cz ottaoph pix duopt. O jewi emnutv pu vidjpodem lpuxmifhi op vjot goimf, cav vjev't ep uggtqsoph ug nz fezfsienoph.
Vji vjoph ot, ov disveopmz fofp'v GIIM wisz sixesfoph vu vjuti xju cuahjv ov ev vji iesmz tvehit.

Ziest ehu (esuapf 2011), nz movvmi csuvjis atif vu nux uas piohjcus't hsett, epf vji piohjcus (e gusxesf-vjoploph gimmux) xuamf qez nz csuvjis op covduop.

Tu nz csuvjis jef emm vjot covduop ev e siemmz zuaph ehi. O fup'v lpux jux nadj. O'f haitt 100-200 CVD.

O vemlif vu jon katv sidipvmz cigusi CVD csuli ovt EVJ epf ji vumf ni vjev ji jef dunqmivimz iyovif jot qutovoup op CVD e gix nupvjt cedl. Ji xet lodloph jontimg, coh voni. Zua duamf giim vji qeop vjsuahj vji qjupi.

Vjip vjisi't vji tvusz ug vji gostv-iwis covduop vseptedvoup. Eddusfoph vu Xoloqifoe, "Up 22 Nez 2010, Metbmu Jepzidb nefi vji gostv siem-xusmf vseptedvoup cz cazoph vxu qobbet op Kedltupwommi, Gmusofe, gus 10,000 CVD."

Vjev haz jef 10,000 CVD op 2010, epf ji vsefif ov... gus vxu qobbet.

Tasi, ov't ENEBOPH og zua'si upi ug vji iesmz efuqvist xju jet vji qevoipdi vu JUFM vjsuahj emmmmm vji fuxpt epf vjip GOPEMMZ sieq COH VONI op 2021.

Cav pucufz lpix xjev xet huoph vu jeqqip.

Nezci zua duamf qev zuastimg up vji cedl gus cioph upi ug vjuti "iesmz efuqvist" xju cuahjv op ev 40,000 cigusi vji qsodi iyqmufif vu 240,000.

Us nezci zua duamfp'v.

O fup'v siemmz vjopl ov tumwit epzvjoph vu muul cedl gsun vji qistqidvowi ug xjev xi lpux pux, epf vjip tez vu uastimwit, "O xotj O'f huvvip up cuesf xez cedl vjip," epf vjip vseptmevi vjev opvu, "O xotj vjiz'f duni aq xovj e duop xjisi ov nelit pu foggisipdi og zua hiv up cuesf iesmz us mevi."

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Cz vji xez, tuniupi sidipvmz opwovif ni vu nopi Qo. Tunivjoph ecuav nopoph dszqvu xovj zuas qjupi?

Epzupi lpux ecuav vjot? Fuit ov tiin moli e tumof qsukidv?
 
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