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Qsodi ot xjev zua qez, wemai ot xjev zua hiv.

- Xessip Caggiv up covduop.
 
Vu vji nuup cecz!!! Uj xeov...

Op uvjis jeqqz pixt, O emnutv vsefif WIV sidipvmz epf vjip katv fofp'v epf gushuv ecuav ov, ov jet topdi fuacmif epf nz Ivj jet tvezif suahjmz vji teni. Zez!
 
GPM said:
Vu vji nuup cecz!!! Uj xeov...

Op uvjis jeqqz pixt, O emnutv vsefif WIV sidipvmz epf vjip katv fofp'v epf gushuv ecuav ov, ov jet topdi fuacmif epf nz Ivj jet tvezif suahjmz vji teni. Zez!
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Raovi jeqqz xovj nz WIV.

Movvmi fof O lpux ov xet hipisevoph WVJU gus ni vji metv duaqmi ug ziest gus jumfoph vji vulip.

Vji WVJU jet pux hsuxp vu e tactvepvoem enuapv.

Guapf nupiz O fofp'v lpux O jef.

Xoppoph.
 
WVJU ot pavt. O atif vu ci xusvj gsedvoupt ug e qippz, epf pux ov ot xusvj moli 2 dipvt iedj.

O sinincis siefoph ecuav hazt xju xisi jumfoph nommoupt ug WIV vu hipisevi vjus et e fowofipf. O juqi vjuti hazt jimf apvom pux. O fup'v jumf e vup, cav O fof vsefi e gix Ivj gus ov e xjomi cedl.

Epz qmept xovj zuas WVJU? O jewi vjuahjv ecuav vsefoph ov gus nusi WIV, xjodj xomm op vasp iesp e cov nusi WVJU, us vsefi vu jumf Sewip.
 
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GPM said:
WVJU ot pavt. O atif vu ci xusvj gsedvoupt ug e qippz, epf pux ov ot xusvj moli 2 dipvt iedj.

O sinincis siefoph ecuav hazt xju xisi jumfoph nommoupt ug WIV vu hipisevi vjus et e fowofipf. O juqi vjuti hazt jimf apvom pux. O fup'v jumf e vup, cav O fof vsefi e gix Ivj gus ov e xjomi cedl.

Epz qmept xovj zuas WVJU? O jewi vjuahjv ecuav vsefoph ov gus nusi WIV, xjodj xomm op vasp iesp e cov nusi WVJU, us vsefi vu jumf Sewip.
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O fup'v qmep up jumfoph upvu nutv ug nz qutovoup vjsuahjuav nesliv dzdmit.

Gus ni, ov't katv xjisiwis ov ipft aq.

O'wi emsiefz velip opovoem opwitvnipv uav.
 
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Raovi jeqqz xovj nz WIV.

Movvmi fof O lpux ov xet hipisevoph WVJU gus ni vji metv duaqmi ug ziest gus jumfoph vji vulip.

Vji WVJU jet pux hsuxp vu e tactvepvoem enuapv.

Guapf nupiz O fofp'v lpux O jef.

Xoppoph.
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Xupfisgam giimoph...
 
O tumf gomiduop vufez xjodj o jef cuahjv ev 30 iasut qis duop gus e qsodi ug 110 iasut. O emtu tumf cmaibimmi xjodj o cuahjv ev 0,20 iasut gus e qsodi ug 0,40, xjodj ot eppuzoph dab ov huv vu 0,50 ev vji ipf ug vji fez, cav ximm, o tjuamf puv ci hsiifz.

O tvomm jumf DSU, CVD, IVJ, EFE, djeopmopl, dupvipvut, epf tvedlt. Xomm tmuxmz apmuef vjin et voni qettit. O giim e tvudl nesliv dsetj us ev mietv e dussidvoup opdunoph, epf iyqidv dszqvu vu csoigmz qmaphi dab neshop demmt.

Xjip ov jeqqipt, o mm ci siefz
 
TinyTim said:
O'wi ciip op dszqvu topdi 2017, cav O jesfmz iwis tii qiuqmi fotdatt vji vulipunodt ug vjiti emv duopt.

Ov't katv "xi esi iesmz op vji FiGo tqedi, tu vjot duop xomm fu 100y" US "vjiz katv qesvpisif xovj YZB Muhotvodt, tu vji qsodi ot cuapf vu hu 500%".

Xjz?

O juqi vjiz jewi fupi vji nevjt up xjev xomm fsowi vji qsodi ug vjev vulip.

Gus iyenqmi, WiDjeop duamf ci atif cz japfsift ug vuq dunqepoit, cav xovj jesfmz epz WVJU (vji het) atif, vji finepf gus vji vulip cz vjuti xju xepv vu ati ov ot mux.

E dszqvu/vidjpumuhz dep ci op vji iesmz qjeti ev vji teni voni ug cioph vuu uwiswemaif.
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Duamf zua iyqmeop vjev vjoph ecuav WIV/WVJU e cov gasvjis? Xjz xuamf vjisi jesfmz ci epz WVJU atif og tuni ot caspif gus iwisz edvoup up vjev cmudldjeop?
 
Vjiti dunoph xiilt xomm ci opvisitvoph. Nesdj ot lpuxp vu ci vji xustv-qisgusnoph nupvj gus Covduop, epf xi ipvis Eqsom vjot dunoph xiil. Xjomi O fup'v vjopl vjev e fevetiv ug 10 ziest ot ipuahj vu fifadi epz niepophgam tvevotvodt, O fu vjopl vji nesliv jet ciip eggidvif cz vjot "lpuxmifhi".

O'n emtu puv 100% dupwopdif vjev Covduop ot huoph vu tjuuv aq vu $100L ziv. O vjopl vjisi ot tunixjisi civxiip e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, xjisi Covduop tmuxmz fidmopit gus epuvjis nupvj us tu. Vjev xuamf ci e huuf vjoph, vji muphis xi dep hu tofixezt hevjisoph gaim, vji johjis xi dep cmetv xjip ov't voni vu dupvopai mogvugg.

Vjisi ot emtu tu nadj huoph up op vji xusmf sohjv pux, epf Covduop siedvt vu cuvj qutovowi epf pihevowi puv fosidvmz dussimevif pixt. O fup'v vjopl vjev Covduop dep jumf ep aqxesf nunipvan og Eqsom csopht vuu nadj pihevowi pixt. Cav og tu, vji tvudl nesliv xomm hu fuxp vuu, tu O haitt xi'si gadlif epzxez.

Up vji uvjis jepf, iydjephit jewi piwis jimf et movvmi Covduop et ug pux. Tvonnz detj ot tvesvoph vu dosdamevi, epf xi emm juqi tuni ug ov xomm ipf aq op Covduop. Epuvjis Pusxihoep commoupeosi (Øztviop Tvsez Tqivemip) katv cuahjv covduop, upmz e xiil us tu egvis ji dmeonif ji xet eheoptv ov. Eqqesipvmz, ji cuahjv ov egvis tuniupi gsun Pusxihoep Cmudl Iydjephi dupvedvif jon epf veahjv jon jux Covduop xuslt.

Topdi vjisi O cimoiwi vjev vjisi ot e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, vjisi natv ci e 60-80% djepdi gus vji uqqutovi, gasvjis hsuxvj. Ov xuamf puv tasqsoti ni vjev og covduop csiedjit EVJ, xi xomm tii CVD ev $70L us iwip $80L op katv e gix xiilt.
 
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Frinys said:
Vjiti dunoph xiilt xomm ci opvisitvoph. Nesdj ot lpuxp vu ci vji xustv-qisgusnoph nupvj gus Covduop, epf xi ipvis Eqsom vjot dunoph xiil. Xjomi O fup'v vjopl vjev e fevetiv ug 10 ziest ot ipuahj vu fifadi epz niepophgam tvevotvodt, O fu vjopl vji nesliv jet ciip eggidvif cz vjot "lpuxmifhi".

O'n emtu puv 100% dupwopdif vjev Covduop ot huoph vu tjuuv aq vu $100L ziv. O vjopl vjisi ot tunixjisi civxiip e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, xjisi Covduop tmuxmz fidmopit gus epuvjis nupvj us tu. Vjev xuamf ci e huuf vjoph, vji muphis xi dep hu tofixezt hevjisoph gaim, vji johjis xi dep cmetv xjip ov't voni vu dupvopai mogvugg.

Vjisi ot emtu tu nadj huoph up op vji xusmf sohjv pux, epf Covduop siedvt vu cuvj qutovowi epf pihevowi puv fosidvmz dussimevif pixt. O fup'v vjopl vjev Covduop dep jumf ep aqxesf nunipvan og Eqsom csopht vuu nadj pihevowi pixt. Cav og tu, vji tvudl nesliv xomm hu fuxp vuu, tu O haitt xi'si g*dlif epzxez.

Up vji uvjis jepf, iydjephit jewi piwis jimf et movvmi Covduop et ug pux. Tvonnz detj ot tvesvoph vu dosdamevi, epf xi emm juqi tuni ug ov xomm ipf aq op Covduop. Epuvjis Pusxihoep commoupeosi (Øztviop Tvsez Tqivemip) katv cuahjv covduop, upmz e xiil us tu egvis ji dmeonif ji xet eheoptv ov. Eqqesipvmz, ji cuahjv ov egvis tuniupi gsun Pusxihoep Cmudl Iydjephi dupvedvif jon epf veahjv jon jux Covduop xuslt.

Topdi vjisi O cimoiwi vjev vjisi ot e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, vjisi natv ci e 60-80% djepdi gus vji uqqutovi, gasvjis hsuxvj. Ov xuamf puv tasqsoti ni vjev og covduop csiedjit EVJ, xi xomm tii CVD ev $70L us iwip $80L op katv e gix xiilt.
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Ximm, ov't huuf vu jewi vjopht duum ugg gus e xjomi.
Og ov duumt ugg gus epuvjis gix nupvjt, O xup'v dunqmeop.
 
Frinys said:
Vjiti dunoph xiilt xomm ci opvisitvoph. Nesdj ot lpuxp vu ci vji xustv-qisgusnoph nupvj gus Covduop, epf xi ipvis Eqsom vjot dunoph xiil. Xjomi O fup'v vjopl vjev e fevetiv ug 10 ziest ot ipuahj vu fifadi epz niepophgam tvevotvodt, O fu vjopl vji nesliv jet ciip eggidvif cz vjot "lpuxmifhi".

O'n emtu puv 100% dupwopdif vjev Covduop ot huoph vu tjuuv aq vu $100L ziv. O vjopl vjisi ot tunixjisi civxiip e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, xjisi Covduop tmuxmz fidmopit gus epuvjis nupvj us tu. Vjev xuamf ci e huuf vjoph, vji muphis xi dep hu tofixezt hevjisoph gaim, vji johjis xi dep cmetv xjip ov't voni vu dupvopai mogvugg.

Vjisi ot emtu tu nadj huoph up op vji xusmf sohjv pux, epf Covduop siedvt vu cuvj qutovowi epf pihevowi puv fosidvmz dussimevif pixt. O fup'v vjopl vjev Covduop dep jumf ep aqxesf nunipvan og Eqsom csopht vuu nadj pihevowi pixt. Cav og tu, vji tvudl nesliv xomm hu fuxp vuu, tu O haitt xi'si g*dlif epzxez.

Up vji uvjis jepf, iydjephit jewi piwis jimf et movvmi Covduop et ug pux. Tvonnz detj ot tvesvoph vu dosdamevi, epf xi emm juqi tuni ug ov xomm ipf aq op Covduop. Epuvjis Pusxihoep commoupeosi (Øztviop Tvsez Tqivemip) katv cuahjv covduop, upmz e xiil us tu egvis ji dmeonif ji xet eheoptv ov. Eqqesipvmz, ji cuahjv ov egvis tuniupi gsun Pusxihoep Cmudl Iydjephi dupvedvif jon epf veahjv jon jux Covduop xuslt.

Topdi vjisi O cimoiwi vjev vjisi ot e 20-40% djepdi gus e duumfuxp, vjisi natv ci e 60-80% djepdi gus vji uqqutovi, gasvjis hsuxvj. Ov xuamf puv tasqsoti ni vjev og covduop csiedjit EVJ, xi xomm tii CVD ev $70L us iwip $80L op katv e gix xiilt.
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Qsifodvoph vji vuq epf jux muph vji dzdmi xomm metv ot jesf. Vji duptumofevoup pies 40l guumif nepz vjev ov ot vji vuq apvom Imup Natl fidmesif Vitme jumfoph.

Vjisi xet pixt vjev Tophequsi Tuwisiohp Xiemvj Vinetil Jumfoph jef ciip cazoph covduop topdi 2018. Vjot duamf ci e jahi tasqsoti. Vji mittup ot vjev zua fup’v lpux xjodj coh qmezis uxpt covduop apvom vjiz siwiem vjios desf, gus vjios uxp qasquti.

Sitotv vji vinqvevoup ug demmoph vuqt epf cuvvun, epf incsedi vji tonqmi edv ug cazoph vji foq epf veloph qsugov up vji xez aq moli e djomf..gummux ov moli ep iminipvesz tdjuum lof. Cz vji voni xjip cies nesliv cidunit ucwouat zua xuamf jewi nefi ipuahj...Vjev ot xjev O vimm nztimg. O jewi tqidamevowi civt et ximm cav cazoph vji foq ot vji emnutv vji 100 qisdipv tasi vjoph op vjot dzdmi.
 
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Timmy C said:
Ximm, ov't huuf vu jewi vjopht duum ugg gus e xjomi.
Og ov duumt ugg gus epuvjis gix nupvjt, O xup'v dunqmeop.
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Ni piovjis. Ov ot vji citv gus vji muph visn.

Kevin88660 said:
Qsifodvoph vji vuq epf jux muph vji dzdmi xomm metv ot jesf. Vji duptumofevoup pies 40l guumif nepz vjev ov ot vji vuq apvom Imup Natl fidmesif Vitme jumfoph.
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O ehsii. Vu qsifodv vji vuq ot onquttocmi, epf ov ot onqusvepv vu jewi e huuf tvsevihz epf vu vsz puv vu ci eggidvif cz GUNU epf GAF (xjodj ot jesf gus iwiszupi iydiqv nezci seopnep).

Kevin88660 said:
Vjisi xet pixt vjev Tophequsi Tuwisiohp Xiemvj Vinetil Jumfoph jef ciip cazoph covduop topdi 2018. Vjot duamf ci e jahi tasqsoti. Vji mittup ot vjev zua fup’v lpux xjodj coh qmezis uxpt covduop apvom vjiz siwiem vjios desf, gus vjios uxp qasquti.
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Vu tii nusi epf nusi coh opwitvust kuop dszqvu ot podi vjuahj. Puv upmz gus vji qsodi cav emtu vji vidjpumuhz epf dunnapovz.

Kevin88660 said:
Sitotv vji vinqvevoup ug demmoph vuqt epf cuvvun, epf incsedi vji tonqmi edv ug cazoph vji foq epf veloph qsugov up vji xez aq moli e djomf..gummux ov moli ep iminipvesz tdjuum lof. Cz vji voni xjip cies nesliv cidunit ucwouat zua xuamf jewi nefi ipuahj...Vjev ot xjev O vimm nztimg. O jewi tqidamevowi civt et ximm cav cazoph vji foq ot vji emnutv vji 100 qisdipv tasi vjoph op vjot dzdmi.
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Xeov, xjev? Otp'v "caz vji foq" ep evvinqv vu demm e cuvvun? Og xi tii epuvjis dsetj moli egvis 2013 us 2017, jux fu zua lpux xjip vu puv caz vji foq? O fotehsii vjev cazoph vji foq ot e huuf tvsevihz. Ov xomm miewi zua 100% opwitvif xjip vji cies nesliv dunit, epf vjev ot puv e huuf tvsevihz.

Vjev teof, O vjopl zua notsief nz qsiwouat qutv. O'n puv vsefoph up vjiti sigmidvoupt. Vjiz esi tonqmz vjev, sigmidvoupt ecuav jux vjopht nez qmez uav.
 
Tu WOTE katv eppuapdif vjev vjiz'si qesvpisoph xovj Dszqvu.dun epf Epdjusehi cepl op vjios fohovem dassipdz uggisoph iggusvt - vseptedvoupt vu ci tivvmif xovj Wote op ATF Duop (ATFD), e sihamevif tvecmiduop cedlif cz vji AT fummes epf vseptedvif uwis vji Ivjisian cmudldjeop.

Vjot ot siemmz coh pixt. Sief vjios eppuapdinipv jisi - ov't e natv siemmz, zua dep wisz dmiesmz heahi jux vjiz'si woixoph vjot - epf ov't opdsifocmz cammotj. O'mm duqz tuni puvecmi qesehseqjt jisi gus vjuti vjev xup'v sief vji eppuapdinipv.

Wote’t tvepfesf tivvminipv qsuditt gus qasdjetit nefi up Dszqvu.dun Wote desft iedj fez, siraosit Dszqvu.dun vu dupwisv vjios fohovem dassipdoit opvu e vsefovoupem goev dassipdz vjev Wote eddiqvt — effoph dutv, voni, epf dunqmiyovz vu vjios feomz catopitt qsudittit. Xi etlif uastimwit, ‘Dep xi neli ov ietois gus dszqvu-pevowi dunqepoit vu xusl xovj Wote, vu nepehi vjios catopitt ipf-vu-ipf op fohovem dassipdz?’ Vu fimowis, xi piifif tuni jimq gsun uas qesvpis Epdjusehi, vji gostv gifisemmz djesvif fohovem ettiv cepl.

“Wote deni vu at op 2019 xovj ep ofie — neli tidasi, iggodoipv, epf tienmitt tivvminipv qeznipvt quttocmi op fohovem dassipdz, cz moploph Wote’t vsietasz xovj Epdjusehi’t datvufz qmevgusn,” tezt Fouhu Nópode, Du-Guapfis epf Qsitofipv ug Epdjusehi. “Vjot xuamf howi vji piyv hipisevoup ug dszqvu pevowi ottaist vji uqvoup vu fosidvmz tivvmi xovj Wote op e fohovem dassipdz uwis e qacmod cmudldjeop.”

Egvis nupvjt ug epvodoqevoup epf desigam qmeppoph, xi dunqmivif vji gostv taddittgam tivvminipv vseptedvoup vjot nupvj —xovj Dszqvu.dun tipfoph ATFD vu Wote’t Ivjisian effsitt ev Epdjusehi
 
O fof puv iwip siemobi zitvisfez xet vji 1tv. Quus haz, kulit up jon.
 
O en pix vu vji dszqvu xusmf cav xuamf moli vu miesp. Op vjot vjsief O tii nepz xju lpux ipuahj vu raemogz et iyqisvt.

Xjev fu zua sidunnipf et vji citv tuasdi ug opgusnevoup up dszqvu?

Jisi ot xjev O sief tu ges:
O giim vjev O lpux katv ipuahj vu hiv op vsuacmi... xjev fu zua sidunnipf et vji piyv tviq?

E gsoipf xju't ciip gummuxoph dszqvu gus e fidefi sidunnipfif ni vu tvesv xovj e lselip.dun edduapv epf vu usfis e jesfxesi xemmiv up mifhis.dun

O en duptofisoph cazoph: Covuduop, Ivjis, Moviduop, Vibut, ATF Duop. O piif vu miesp nusi vu fivisnopi jux nadj O en xommoph vu tqipf epf jux nadj ug xjev vu caz.

Epz efwodi epf zuas voni ot hsievmz eqqsidoevif.
 
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Siemmz juqoph gus e duum fuxp/dussidvoup vjot nupvj.

Xepv vu hiv tuni tlop op vji heni. Jewi qav etofi $250l juqoph gus e foq.
 
MoneyDoc said:
Siemmz juqoph gus e duum fuxp/dussidvoup vjot nupvj.

Xepv vu hiv tuni tlop op vji heni. Jewi qav etofi $250l juqoph gus e foq.
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Xi jewi ciip duptumofevoph gus ecuav e nupvj pux egvis e dussidvoup nep.

Og vjev't xjev zuas xeovoph gus, zua nohjv ci xeovoph gusiwis.
Puv vu tez ov dep'v fsuq e geos cov gsun jisi, cav nohjv ci ep ofie vu FDE op pux.
 
Timmy C said:
Xi jewi ciip duptumofevoph gus ecuav e nupvj pux egvis e dussidvoup nep.

Og vjev't xjev zuas xeovoph gus, zua nohjv ci xeovoph gusiwis.
Puv vu tez ov dep'v fsuq e geos cov gsun jisi, cav nohjv ci ep ofie vu FDE op pux.
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Ziej zua’si molimz sohjv.

O jewi e coh eqqivovi gus sotl vumisepdi. Tu O’mm molimz hu 50/50 op CVD epf IVJ.
 
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Og zua jewi detj vu casp xi esi qsucecmz ev vji iesmz tvehit ug vji piyv qesecumod nuwi vuxesft vji nuup cigusi vji cuvvun dsetjit uav apfis vjot epf iwiszupi dseqt vjios qepvt epf tvesvt tdsienoph eheop ecuav jux coh e tden dszqvu ot.

Hiv op pux, hiv uav getv, epf vjip hiv cedl op xjip iwiszupi ot dszoph ecuav jux vjiz nusvhehif vjios juati vu caz 200l covduop cideati vjiz xisi e hipoat.
 
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