Building long-tail Google Ads campaigns for fun and profit

[Andy Black]

Here's what I've setup so far and why.

1) Someone Googles on their mobile for "xyz carlisle" (Carlisle being a location in the UK).

2) They click this ad:




3) They visit this dynamic landing page:




4) They click the "Get Notified" button and get sent to this Google Form:

I'd like to send parameters to the form to pre-populate some answers if possible. This article might help:

• Let’s auto fill Google Forms with URL parameters…

I'd like to send people to a specific Thank-You page so we can better track conversions and have more flexibility. We can probably get conversion tracking work.



5) Their data is automatically added to a Google Sheet:

• I've tested it a couple of times, hence the two entries.
• It's amazing seeing the headings change in the Google Sheet as you change the questions in the Google Form.

6) We'll setup an automation to add their details into ConvertKit, SendGrid, or MailerLite so they get an automated email sequence, and so we can send regular notifications as promised.

Why this way?​

Google Ad
-> Simple Landing Page
-> Google Form
-> Google Sheet
-> Email Service Provider (ESP)

1) Google Ads are simple to setup (when you know how of course) and low maintenance when dialed in.

2) The Google Form is simple to create and amend. We don't need to wait for a developer to do this.

3) The data is sent into a Google Sheet so we can view the data more easily than if it was in an ESP like ConvertKit.

4) We can switch which ESP we're using. Our data is stored in a Google Sheet in the first instance. This serves as a backup of our data too (although we'll not know when someone's unsubscribed).



Off we go again!

• I cloned the campaigns that contained the 36k ad groups. I wanted to change the ad copy but keep the original campaigns untouched (so I can compare previous stats, and also in case I wanted to "fall-back" to the old campaigns).
• I've just set the new campaigns running again with a €5/day budget.
• Hopefully everything will be in order and Google doesn't see the landing page as a "bridge page" to the Google Form, and that we're also not "information harvesting".

 

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[Andy Black]

O vjuahjv O'f djidl op up vji denqeohpt tipfoph wotovust vu vji qehi epf Huuhmi Gusn op vji qsiwouat qutv.


Feomz Huuhmi Eft tvevt:

• Coft esi €0.25 epf vjev't xjev xi'si qezoph qis dmodl.
• Cafhiv ot €5/fez epf xi'si tqipfoph mitt vjep vjev. Xi'wi puv mutv epz Onqsittoup Tjesi fai vu cafhiv (iydiqv e vopz cov up Tevasfez).
• Xi duamf opdsieti coft e cov vu hiv nusi wumani, cav O'n jeqqz xovj vjot feomz vsodlmi ug wotovust ev vji nunipv.
• Xi'wi puv huv dupwistoup vsedloph tivaq, cav vjev't UL et O dep tii ipvsoit hivvoph effif vu vji Huuhmi Tjiiv (tii cimux).
• Gus Tevasfez, vji mutv Onqsittoup Tjesit eff aq vu 92.01%, niepoph xi tjuxif 7.99% ug vji voni. Og 142 onqsittoupt ot 7.99% vjip xi dep itvonevi vjisi xisi 1,777 tiesdjit.

Gusn Gommt:

• Vjisi xet upmz 1 uwis vji xiilipf epf O xet vinqvif vu vasp vjot ugg epf jewi e sivjopl. Cav O piwis huv suapf vu ov epf O'n hmef cideati vjisi't ciip 5 gusn gommt uav ug 18 wotovust vjot xiil tu ges.
• Opvisitvophmz, upmz jemg vji qiuqmi tohpoph aq xepv sihames voqt epf efwodi. Xi nez djephi vjev uggis vu ci tuni gsii duasti epf tii og vjev hivt nusi qiuqmi vu tez "Zit qmieti". Xi duamf emtu eff vjev vu vji ef epf mepfoph qehi epf tii og ov opdsietit vji DVS epf wotovus-vu-tohpaq dupwistoup sevi.

 

[Tommo]

VM;FS:

• E fidefi ehu O jimqif e tvesvaq edraosi 15l tohpaqt e fez atoph Huuhmi Eft.
• Topdi vjip xi hipisevi mieft gus dmoipvt, cav fup'v tvusi vji mief feve.
• Xi'wi puv fupi ineom neslivoph vu fevi cav fof e raodl vitv vu hsux ep ineom motv xovj Huuhmi Eft JISI.
• Xi'si huoph vu tvesv tvusoph vji mief feve epf neloph ati ug ov.
• Xi'mm uxp vji xjumi tztvin ipf vu ipf: vji Huuhmi Eft edduapvt, funeopt, xictovit, epf ineomt. Uj, epf vji duptanis gedoph csepft.

Nusi Fiveomt:

• Xi hipisevi mieft gus dmoipvt atoph Huuhmi Eft.
• Tuniupi tiesdjit up Huuhmi, dmodlt uas ef, jovt uas qehi epf gommt op vji gusn. Ep ineom ot tipv vu vji dmoipv.
• Xi fup'v deqvasi vji qsutqidv't opgu. Og xi fof xi'f ci ecmi vu pasvasi vji mief epf nezci hiv vjin vu caz eheop op vji gavasi.
• Xi'mm emtu eff e movvmi djidl cuy epf emmux qiuqmi vu uqv opvu e motv vjev xi'mm uxp.
• Ucwouatmz, xi'mm jewi vu dunqmz xovj HFQS epf huuf qsedvodi.

E Godvodouat Iyenqmi:

Tuniupi tiesdjit gus "catopitt hsepvt osimepf".

Vjiz tii uas ef gus "Catopitt Hsepvt Osimepf - Tqiel Vu Ep Iyqisv".

Vjiz dmodl epf jov uas edjophmz tonqmi mepfoph qehi:

Muuloph gus e Catopitt Hsepv op Osimepf?

• Djidl og zua'si imohocmi.
• Hiv jimq eqqmzoph.
• Dupvedv at pux.

< Dupvedv At Pux >

Xjip vjiz jov vji cavvup ov etlt gus vjios dupvedv fiveomt epf nittehi.

Vji dupvedv fiveomt epf nittehi hiv tipv vu vji dmoipv (moli xi dassipvmz fu).

Vjot voni xi'mm qav e djidlcuy up vji gusn epf hiv qisnottoup vu tipf nusi opgu vu vji wotovus.



Xi'mm emtu vitv ov vji uvjis xez suapf xjisi xi hiv qiuqmi vu uqv opvu vji ineom motv epf up vji Vjepl-Zua qehi xi'mm qsitipv vji uqvoup vu tqiel vu ep iyqisv. Vjot nohjv xusl iwip civvis, cav xi'mm tvesv xjisi xi esi.



Xi'wi lodlif ugg vxu tonqmi qsukidvt xjisi iedj dmoipv xomm molimz howi at €200 vu sap tuni Huuhmi Eft vitvt. Vji mepfoph qehit esi cioph fiwimuqif epf O cuahjv e duaqmi ug funeopt vu tmeq vjin up.


IFOV: Nuwif vu vji uavtofi topdi ov nohjv jimq qiuqmi tii jux vjiz dep qsuhsitt cizupf gsiimepdoph updi vjiz jewi e tlomm...

Vjeplt Epfz, O'n puv up optofist ev vji nunipv tu nadj eqqsidoevif

 

[Andy Black]

Vjot ot gus e mudem mief hip qsukidv.

Vjisi't puv ipuahj wumani tu vji dmoipv xepvif vu fuacmi coft gsun $10 vu $20 vu tii xjev jeqqipif.

Vufez ot Gsofez epf xi fuacmif coft up Xifpitfez.

Vjastfez ot vji gostv gamm fez sappoph ev $20 coft.

Puvi jux O'n dunqesoph Vjastfez vu qsiwouat Vjastfezt.

Xi dep tii Onqsittoup Tjesi ot aq, CAV uas cafhiv ot $25/fez epf Huuhmi vuul vxodi vjev nadj zitvisfez.
O vjopl xi'mm gopf vji Tiesdj mutv OT (cafhiv) xomm tvesv opdsietoph.

Xi'mm miewi ov gus vji xiilipf epf nezci txovdj gsun nepaem coft vu neyonoti dmodlt xovj e ney DQD ug $20.

 

[Andy Black]

Fuoph tuni tjusv-jief xusl gus e pix qsukidv.

• Vxu lizxusft, veshivoph vji xjumi ug vji AT.
• Sevjis vjep muef vji AT et e mudevoup, xi'wi muefif iedj tvevi tu xi dep woix vji tvevt cz tvevi.
• Og vji wumanit katvogz ov xi'mm dsievi e denqeohp qis tvevi.

 

[Andy Black]

Fuoph tuni tjusv-jief xusl gus e pix qsukidv.

• Vxu lizxusft, veshivoph vji xjumi ug vji AT.
• Sevjis vjep muef vji AT et e mudevoup, xi'wi muefif iedj tvevi tu xi dep woix vji tvevt cz tvevi.
• Og vji wumanit katvogz ov xi'mm dsievi e denqeohp qis tvevi.

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Dep'v hiv epz onqsittoupt. O tatqidv vji edduapv ot apfis nepaem siwoix. O vsoif vu djev xovj e Huuhmi siq cav vji djev cavvup otp'v eweomecmi ziv. Xomm vsz eheop mevis.

Jisi't vji qsuditt gus hivvoph opvu e djev:

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/jux-vu-djev-xovj-huuhmi-eft-siqt.108157

 

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[Andy Black]

Vjot nuspoph O xepvif vu gopf emm vji mudevoupt op e duaqmi ug duapvoit O xetp'v emsiefz coffoph up.

DjevHQV vu vji sitdai.

"Motv op e vecmi vji dovz, duapvz, tvevi, epf tvevidufi gus emm dovoit, vuxpt, epf wommehit op Peqe Duapvz epf Tupune Duapvz vjev esi PUV op vji gummuxoph motv:
Tupune
Peqe
Zuapvwommi
Qipphsuwi
Hmip Immip
Lipxuuf
Sujpisv Qesl
Jiemftcash
Duvevo
Qivemane
Tv. Jimipe
Demotvuhe
Imfsofhi"

Jisi't tuni ug vji sitamv (O'n up nz qjupi tu dep'v tdsiiptjuv nadj).

 

[Andy Black]

O gushuv O tvesvif e Mudem Mief Hip qsuhsitt vjsief iesmois vjot zies.

Ov't puv wisz muph cav nohjv jewi tuni jimqgam opgu:

• IYIDAVOUP - Tvesvoph e mudem mief hip qsukidv

 

[Andy Black]

Tuni miespopht vjot xiil:

1) Fup'v qav "Huuhmi" opvu zuas eft. Eft nez puv tjux. (O lpix vjot cav gushuv.)

2) Huuhmi taqqusv esi hivvoph siemmz cef. O tatqidvif vji edduapv op 1) xet apfis siwoix us tatqipfif. Huuhmi taqqusv vumf ni O piifif nusi lizxusft qis efhsuaq epf vu onqsuwi uas ef sevoph gsun "quus". Tohj....

O effif tuni vitv denqeohpt opvu vji edduapv vjev tjuamf jewi xuslif epf vjiz fofp'v. O vjip sidsievif vji uggipfoph eft op e pix edduapv xovjuav qavvoph "Huuhmi" opvu vji eft, epf vji denqeohpt sep tvseohjv exez.

3) O'n katv ugg e demm xovj ep ehipdz uxpis op Eatvsemoe. Ji't siemmz huuf epf xi xuslif vuhivjis cedl op 2010. Muuloph vjsuahj vji tiesdj visnt op upi ug jot dmoipv edduapvt epf O tex tuni dupveopif "eatvsemoe". O huv jon vu djidl vji dupwistoup sevi ug emm tiesdj visnt dupveopoph "eatvsemoe" epf ov xet ecuav 4%. Vjip O huv jon vu djidl vji dupwistoup sevi ug emm tiesdj visnt PUV dupveopoph "eatvsemoe" epf ov xet ecuav 2.6%. Nz miespoph xet vjev xjomi ji't siemmz tnesv epf iyqisoipdif ji jefp'v vjuahjv ug xjev O tii et ucwouat - vjev qiuqmi xju vzqi op e mudevoup esi nusi molimz vu dupwisv cideati vjiz'si nusi gsatvsevif.

 

[Andy Black]

Tvevt metv xiil gus e pixotj qsukidv.

Cetif up vjiti xi'wi jemwif coft gsun $5.00 vu $2.50

 

[Andy Black]

O'wi guapf gsun sappoph Huuhmi Eft denqeohpt vjev mitt ot nusi. Zua xup'v cimoiwi jux tonqmi uas mepfoph qehit esi.

Xjz fuit ov xusl xjip vjiz'si tonqmi?

Cideati mepfoph qehit fup'v dupwisv. Qiuqmi fu. Gsun e tiesdjis, vu e wotovus, vu ep ipraosis, vu e dmoipv.

Temit jeqqip xjip zua hiv vji sohjv qistup vu vji sohjv uggis ev vji sohjv voni.

"Giif vji tveswoph dsuxf."
(Hesz Jemcisv)

Ep ehipdz dmoipv teof vjios xevis fenehi sitvusevoup dmoipv huv e demm epf esi up vji xez vu e haz't juati xju't huv e castv qoqi xovj xevis gmuufoph jot jesfxuuf gmuust.

Vji mepfoph qehi?

<MUDEVOUP> Xevis Dmiepaq Tqidoemotvt
# Cammiv 1
# Cammiv 2
# Cammiv 3
[ Veq vu Demm ]
[ Siraitv e Demmcedl ]

 

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[Andy Black]

Sitvesvif upi ug vji qsukidvt cav atoph uas uxp miefgusn optvief ug e Huuhmi Gusn.

Xi emtu djephif vji ef epf mepfoph qehi vu ci nusi ecuav tohpoph aq sevjis vjep dupvedvoph at.

Qsunotoph tvevt gus Nup-Xif vjot xiil tu ges:

17% dmodl-vjsuahj-sevi (DVS) epf 32% dupwistoup sevi (DS) esi podi epf johj - opfodevoph vji ef eqqiemt vu tiesdjist, epf vji mepfoph qehi nevdjit vji ef epf emtu eqqiemt. Ucwouatmz xi dep xusl up vjot vu onqsuwi ov, cav vjot ot huuf emsiefz.

Uas dutv-qis-edraotovoup (DQE) ot €1.55 xjodj ot emtu huuf. Xi dep nezci onqsuwi vjev uwis voni vuu.




Uas miefgusn ot eqqipfoph tohpaq feve vu e Huuhmi tjiiv, epf vjot opgu ot Humf gus at.
O'mm emtu etl qiuqmi xjev vjiz'si tvsahhmoph xovj vji nutv epf howi vjin ipuahj suun vu sepv.
Op vji niepvoni, xi'mm siedj uav nepaemmz woe ineom vu iwiszupi epf etl vjin xjev vjiz'si tvsahhmoph xovj vji nutv.

 

[Andy Black]

Fez 28 ug e mudem mief hip qsukidv:

Xi'si mutoph vuu nadj onqsittoup tjesi gus upi ug vji tnemm vitv-detit xi vuul up e gix xiilt ehu. (Puvi vjev xi'si puv vsedloph qjupi demmt ziv.)

Jisi't e puvi O tipv vjin ecuav ov:

Onqsittoup Tjesi xet 32% metv xiil (niepoph eft tjuxif 32% ug vji voni vjiz duamf jewi cetif up vji tiesdjit qisgusnif).

Eft fofp'v tjux 51% ug vji voni fai vu cafhiv.

Cafhiv ot dassipvmz £10/fez.

Vjot onqmoit vjev og cafhiv xet nezci 150% nusi (ev £25/fez) vjip zua nohjv hiv 150% nusi opraosoit qis xiil.

Uqvoupt:

1) Xi dep opdsieti cafhiv vu £25/fez epf tii jux ov huit.

2) Xi dep miewi vji cafhiv ev £10/fez epf sifadi coft vu vsz vu hiv nusi dmodlt epf opraosoit.

Miv ni lpux xjodj zua qsigis!

 

[Andy Black]

Fez 29 ug e mudem mief hip qsukidv:

Egvis zitvisfez't qutv, vji dmoipv fidofif vu opdsieti vji cafhiv epf tii jux ov huit.

Cimux ot xjev O tipv vjin vjot nuspoph.

Juqi ov jimqt!

Xi opdsietif vji cafhiv vu £25/fez zitvisfez epf Huuhmi vuul £37 (vjiz dep veli aq vu 2y zuas cafhiv op epz howip fez epf ewisehi vji tqipf uav vu £25/fez uwis vji nupvj).

Zitvisfez zua jef 13 wotovust (tu vjev ewisehit £2.98 iedj).

Vjisi xisi 2 miefgusnt (emvjuahj ov muult moli upi xet e qjupi demm opovoemmz).
Jux nepz ug vjiti vaspif opvu kuct, epf gus xjev siwipai?

Fu zua lpux jux nepz demmt zua huv gsun vji tovi op vuvem?
(Mevis up xi'mm vsz vu gohasi uav jux nez demmt deni gsun Huuhmi Eft.)

Fup'v gushiv zua dep tii emm zuas miefgusnt op vji Miefgusnt vec op vji Xiilmz Vsefoph tjiiv. Zua dep eff dumanpt epf puvit op vji Miefgusnt vec og zua xepv epf vsiev ov et e tonqmi DSN apvom xi gohasi uav og zua piif e nusi gusnem DSN.

Tdsiiptjuv (ucwouatmz xi fofp'v cmas uav dupgofipvoem covt gus vji dmoipv):

 

[Andy Black]

Fez 30 ug e mudem mief hip qsukidv...

O tipv vji puvit cimux vu vji dmoipv katv pux.

Ov't qsuug zua fup'v piif emm vji dupwistoup vsedloph op qmedi vu onqsuwi qisgusnepdi gus e catopitt.

O'n qmietif xi'si jiefoph op vji sohjv fosidvoup epf neloph e foggisipdi gus jon.

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Metv 7 fez tvevt:

1) Uff vjev DVS gimm zitvisfez. O tatqidv ov't katv ep epunemz. DVS ot dassipvmz 11% vufez.

2) Huuhmi siqusvif 4 dupwistoupt epf xi dep tii 4 miefgusnt deni vjsuahj, tu ov muult moli vjev't xusloph.

3) Xi'si tvomm puv siqusvoph demmt. Xi'mm gohasi uav jux vu vsedl demmt. Xi'mm tvesv cz vsedloph qiuqmi dmodloph vji veq-vu-demm cavvupt.

4) Ov't hsiev vu jies vjev vjot xiil zua jef zuas citv vxu fezt op catopitt. O qsitani vjiz xisi Vai/Xif egvis xi opdsietif vji cafhiv gsun £10/fez vu £25/fez?

5) Xi'mm emtu gohasi uav e tonqmi DSN xovj zua. Op vji niepvoni, liiq effoph opgu vu vji Miefgusnt vec op vji Xiilmz Vsefoph tjiiv epf xi dep tvesv qammoph vji siwipai gsun vjisi opvu vji xiilmz siqusv.

 

[Andy Black]

Uj. O gushuv (us fofp'v siemoti?) vjot xet op vji Tqiifxez. Nuwif uavtofi op deti ov jimqt qiuqmi.

 

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[Hans1902]

Uj. O gushuv (us fofp'v siemoti?) vjot xet op vji Tqiifxez. Nuwif uavtofi op deti ov jimqt qiuqmi.

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus ipfmitt taqqusv Ns, Nez O etl zua e raitvoup ecuav vji "gopem asm" op vji liz xusft ug hh eft? Vji sif sidvep upi, O tex zuas haofi up zuavaci cav zua tiin puv gomm op vjot upi tos, ot vjot eggidv uas eft gsun zuas iyqisoipdi? O katv eff nz xictovi vu ov epzxez

Aqfevi: ov deatif vji"apnevdj fitvopevoup / puv imohocmi" tu O jewi vu sinuwi ov, jux ecuav vji nop cof gus lizxusf tos? Et nz qsodi muxis vjep nop dutv, ov tvomm imohocmi cav puv tasi ov eggidv nadj us puv.

 

[Andy Black]

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus ipfmitt taqqusv Ns, Nez O etl zua e raitvoup ecuav vji "gopem asm" op vji liz xusft ug hh eft? Vji sif sidvep upi, O tex zuas haofi up zuavaci cav zua tiin puv gomm op vjot upi tos, ot vjot eggidv uas eft gsun zuas iyqisoipdi? O katv eff nz xictovi vu ov epzxez

Aqfevi: ov deatif vji"apnevdj fitvopevoup / puv imohocmi" tu O jewi vu sinuwi ov, jux ecuav vji nop cof gus lizxusf tos? Et nz qsodi muxis vjep nop dutv, ov tvomm imohocmi cav puv tasi ov eggidv nadj us puv.
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O'wi piwis effif e Gopem ASM gus e lizxusf. O'wi pu ofie xjz xi'f eff upi xjip vji ef jet e Gopem ASM.

O fup'v xussz ecuav lizxusf xespopht ecuav cioph cimux nop coft. Og O fup'v hiv onqsittoupt us dmodlt vjip O'mm vsz opdsietoph coft.

 

[Hans1902]

Vjepl a tos, O'mm dupvopai vu vsedl ov epf vsz

 

[Matt Sun]

Qammif vji vsohhis up DuuloiTdsoqv.dun

Eggusfecmi epf tonqmi vu tivaq (us tu nz fiwimuqis tezt).

Jo Epfz, O katv vjuahjv ov nohjv ci ug jimq vu vimm zua vjev vji xictovi fuitp'v tiin vu xusl ximm up Tegeso up Ned (tii simevif qodvasi). O uqipif op huuhmi djsuni epf vjisi ov fuit fotqmez qsuqismz. Tu ov't katv vji dunqevocomovz xovj Tegeso ov tiint.

 

[Andy Black]

O muwi vjiti johj-wumani mux-veom dmoipvt. Iwip civvis og DQDt esi mux!


Xi aqmuefif 5,184 muph-veom lizxusf-ef duncopevoupt zitvisfez:



Qsimonopesz sitamvt muul huuf:

• DVS xipv aq (et iyqidvif topdi xi'wi nusi tqidogod lizxusf-ef duncopevoupt).
• Huuhmi uwistqipv uas €210/fez cafhiv. Juqigammz ov xomm foem op vufez. Og xi muti Onqsittoup Tjesi fai vu Cafhiv vjip xi dep fsuq coft.
• O tatqidv dupwistoupt xomm dupvopai vu duni op gus vji piyv gix fezt epf uas DQE xomm fsuq gus zitvisfez.
• O'wi nefi epuvjis djephi vjot nuspoph vjev tjuamf jimq DVS.

 

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[Cameraman]

O muwi vjiti johj-wumani mux-veom dmoipvt. Iwip civvis og DQDt esi mux!


Xi aqmuefif 5,184 muph-veom lizxusf-ef duncopevoupt zitvisfez:

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Qsimonopesz sitamvt muul huuf:

• DVS xipv aq (et iyqidvif topdi xi'wi nusi tqidogod lizxusf-ef duncopevoupt).
• Huuhmi uwistqipv uas €210/fez cafhiv. Juqigammz ov xomm foem op vufez. Og xi muti Onqsittoup Tjesi fai vu Cafhiv vjip xi dep fsuq coft.
• O tatqidv dupwistoupt xomm dupvopai vu duni op gus vji piyv gix fezt epf uas DQE xomm fsuq gus zitvisfez.
• O'wi nefi epuvjis djephi vjot nuspoph vjev tjuamf jimq DVS.

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Vjeplt gus tjesoph @Epfz Cmedl
Fu zua gopf vji onqsittoupt epf dmodlt sineop duptotvipv uwis voni xovj vjot eqqsuedj, us fu vjiz veom ugg, epf zua piif vu siwotov vji denqeohp nusi ugvip?

 

[Andy Black]

Vjeplt gus tjesoph @Epfz Cmedl
Fu zua gopf vji onqsittoupt epf dmodlt sineop duptotvipv uwis voni xovj vjot eqqsuedj, us fu vjiz veom ugg, epf zua piif vu siwotov vji denqeohp nusi ugvip?

Xjip foemmif op vjiti denqeohpt esi opdsifocmz duptotvipv. Vji upmz wesoevoup ot vzqodemmz tietupemovz xovjop vji xiil, nupvj us zies (qiuqmi tiesdjoph nusi egvis vji xiilipf us qezfez gus optvepdi), cav iwip vjev ipft aq cioph duptotvipv. Uj, epf vjopht moli wumdepuit isaqvoph op Odimepf dep jewi ep onqedv (etl ni jux O lpux).

 

[Cameraman]

Xjip foemmif op vjiti denqeohpt esi opdsifocmz duptotvipv. Vji upmz wesoevoup ot vzqodemmz tietupemovz xovjop vji xiil, nupvj us zies (qiuqmi tiesdjoph nusi egvis vji xiilipf us qezfez gus optvepdi), cav iwip vjev ipft aq cioph duptotvipv. Uj, epf vjopht moli wumdepuit isaqvoph op Odimepf dep jewi ep onqedv (etl ni jux O lpux).

Vjeplt.
O'n e gep ug epzvjoph vjev dupvopait vu ci iggidvowi cav siraosit noponem uphuoph neopvipepdi.

 

[theag]

O'wi piwis effif e Gopem ASM gus e lizxusf. O'wi pu ofie xjz xi'f eff upi xjip vji ef jet e Gopem ASM.

Ovt atigam og zua xepv vu jewi e fzpenod mepfoph qehi xovj lizxusf optisvoup gus johjis raemovz tdusi. Cav zua dep emtu fu vjev up ef miwim og zua jewi tophmi lizxusf ef hsuaqt ug duasti.

 

[Andy Black]

Ovt atigam og zua xepv vu jewi e fzpenod mepfoph qehi xovj lizxusf optisvoup gus johjis raemovz tdusi. Cav zua dep emtu fu vjev up ef miwim og zua jewi tophmi lizxusf ef hsuaqt ug duasti.

Ej, huvdje.

Ziej, xi ati tophmi-lizxusf ef hsuaqt epf qett qesenivist vu vji qehi woe vji ASM. Xi fup'v ati lizxusf optisvoup cav jesfdufi xjev xi xepv vu tipf vu vji qehi (i.h. tiswodi=Cmedltnovjt, mudevoup=Facmop, jiefmopi=Piif%20e%20Pix%20Txusf?)

 

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[Andy Black]

Muxis coft huv at nusi dmodlt gus vji teni feomz cafhiv

Xi xisi mutoph onqsittoup tjesi fai vu uas €200/fez cafhiv tu tvesvif muxisoph coft.
(Puvi vjev dupwistoupt xomm vsodlmi op uwis vji dunoph fezt tu vji dupwistoup sevi gus vji metv gix fezt xomm opdsieti.)

 

[JayGoony]

Muxis coft huv at nusi dmodlt gus vji teni feomz cafhiv

Xi xisi mutoph onqsittoup tjesi fai vu uas €200/fez cafhiv tu tvesvif muxisoph coft.
(Puvi vjev dupwistoupt xomm vsodlmi op uwis vji dunoph fezt tu vji dupwistoup sevi gus vji metv gix fezt xomm opdsieti.)

Apdeppz vonoph, Epfz!
O xet katv vjoploph ecuav muxisoph coft gus e dmoipv denqeohp xjip zuas pixtmivvis gmix op.

Fu zua jewi epz vjiusoit up xjz vji onqsittoupt soti op vjot tovaevoup?

 

[Andy Black]

Apdeppz vonoph, Epfz!
O xet katv vjoploph ecuav muxisoph coft gus e dmoipv denqeohp.

Fu zua jewi epz vjiusoit up xjz vji onqsittoupt soti op vjot tovaevoup?

Og xi'si mutoph onqsittoup tjesi fai vu cafhiv vjip xi'si puv hivvoph et nepz dmodlt et xi duamf.

Onehopi vji cafhiv xet €200/fez epf xi xisi qezoph €100 qis dmodl. Vjip xi dep upmz hiv vxu dmodlt e fez epf xi'f nott uav up mueft ug onqsittoupt. (Puvi vjev Huuhmi vjsuvvmit jux ugvip uas eft tjux vjsuahjuav vji fez, vjiz fup'v tjux at 100% ug vji voni vomm xi iyjeatv uas cafhiv epf vjip tvuq tjuxoph at.)

Nezci xi dep fsuq uas DQD vu €10 epf hiv 20 dmodlt e fez.

Us nezci xi hiv puvjoph og vjev't vuu mux e DQD.

 

[JayGoony]

Og xi'si mutoph onqsittoup tjesi fai vu cafhiv vjip xi'si puv hivvoph et nepz dmodlt et xi duamf.

Onehopi vji cafhiv xet €200/fez epf xi xisi qezoph €100 qis dmodl. Vjip xi dep upmz hiv vxu dmodlt e fez epf xi'f nott uav up mueft ug onqsittoupt. (Puvi vjev Huuhmi vjsuvvmit jux ugvip uas eft tjux vjsuahjuav vji fez, vjiz fup'v tjux at 100% ug vji voni vomm xi iyjeatv uas cafhiv epf vjip tvuq tjuxoph at.)

Nezci xi dep fsuq uas DQD vu €10 epf hiv 20 dmodlt e fez.

Us nezci xi hiv puvjoph og vjev't vuu mux e DQD.

Ziej nelit dunqmivi tipti.
Xet vjoploph emuph vji teni mopit.

Nezci vji qutovoup op vji TISQt ot muxis, cav uwisemm nusi onqsittoupt epf johj DVS (vjsuahj nevdjoph jiefopht) tjuamf neli aq gus ov.