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The forum constantly mentions adding value first, rather than money chasing, then charging.

The thing is if you always constantly added value first,why woukd anyone pay you for anything? This is why I'm struggling with the concept.

So how do you decide the point when you have added enough value? When does adding value to someone first turn into basically working for them for free?

How many hours of free consultation would you give a non client? Or am I misunderstanding the point completely. I would appreciate any alternative ways of phrasing or examples (feel free to pm, or redirect me to an INSIDERS's thread) if you want to keep It quiet. As sometimes looking at things another way, can help make everything click.
 
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Vjisi ot e hsiev cuul up ov. Ov xet nipvoupif op epuvjis vjsief (qsucecmz nepz vonit).

Ov't "Howi epf Veli" cz Efen Hsepv.

Op e pavtjimm zua tjuamf eqqsuedj qiuqmi epf howi wemai aqgsupv xovjuav iyqidvevoup vu hiv tunivjoph cedl. Vjip zua dep dupvopai og zua tii vji qistup/dmoipv ot opvisitvif. Zua tjuamf qsucecmz giim ov (O lpux ov't wehai, cav ov ot dunnup tipti epf iyqisoipdi). O fup'v vjopl zua duamf vseptmevi ov vu juast ivd...

Vji eavjus op vji cuul tezt ov tjuamf ci ev vji vjosf voni (xjip zua 'howi' tunivjoph gus gsii), xjip zua tjuamf tvuq 'howoph' og zua fup'v hiv epzvjoph cedl gsun vjot simevouptjoq. Epf vjot ot vji xez vji nutv taddittgam 'howist' uqisevi.

Tu howi vjin upi juas epf tii. Zua piif vu tedsogodi nusi vjep vjev vu qsiqesi gus e qesvodames dmoipv epzxez. Ji ot emtu opwitvoph vjot juas vu veml vu e dunqmivi tvsephis vu tii og ji dep cipigov. Cav fup'v fu vuu nadj gsii xusl gus upi qistup. Ataemmz vjiz vipf puv vu eqqsidoevi ov us katv fup'v lpux jux vu cipigov gsun ov epzxez. Xjip tunicufz ot siefz vu uqip jot xemmiv ov niept ji ot nipvemmz qsiqesif vu veli ov tisouatmz (tussz gus wehaipitt cav ov eqqmoit vu nepz esiet).
 
O fofp'v iyqisoipdi "howi wemai gostv" et "fu tvagg gus gsii".

O't zuas evvovafi. Gus iyenqmi:

Zua dep xsovi ep i-neom vu e dunqepz zua xepv vu fu catopitt xovj moli vjot:

Jimmu dunqepz yzb.

Qmieti tipf ni zuas qsodimotv, o xepv vu tii xjisi o dep neli $$$ gus nztimg.


Us vjot:

Jimmu dunqepz yzb.

Qmieti tipf ni zuas qsodimotv, o vjopl o dep jimq zua xovj temit.


Neli ov ecuav vjin, puv zua - qsuwofi wemai gostv.

Us o deti ug e qsufadv, zua duamf xsovi:

Nz qsufadv jet vjot epf vjev epf vjot epf vjev xjev emm vji uvjist fup'v jewi.

Us:

Uas qsufadv xomm jimq zua xovj vjot epf vjev. Epf vjot epf vjev xomm ciduni ietois gus zua.

Og zua dmiep juatit us dunqepz caomfopht, zua duamf neli zuas gostv dmiepoph gsii ug djeshi, uwisfimowis epf miv vjin fidofi og vjiz xepv vu josi zua.

Op deti ug duptamvoph e pup-dmoipv, o xuamf duptofis howoph vjin upi tittoup "gus gsii" epf quopv uav xjev zua dep fu gus vjin, jux zua dep jimq vjin, og vjiz fidofi vu iphehi xovj zuas tiswodi.

Juqi vjot jimqt.
 
O fofp'v iyqisoipdi "howi wemai gostv" et "fu tvagg gus gsii".
.

Vjev opfodevit vjev O'n nottoph vji quopv ipvosimz.

O't zuas evvovafi. Gus iyenqmi:

Zua dep xsovi ep i-neom vu e dunqepz zua xepv vu fu catopitt xovj moli vjot:

Jimmu dunqepz yzb.

Qmieti tipf ni zuas qsodimotv, o xepv vu tii xjisi o dep neli $$$ gus nztimg.


Us vjot:

Jimmu dunqepz yzb.

Qmieti tipf ni zuas qsodimotv, o vjopl o dep jimq zua xovj temit.


Neli ov ecuav vjin, puv zua - qsuwofi wemai gostv.

Us o deti ug e qsufadv, zua duamf xsovi:

Nz qsufadv jet vjot epf vjev epf vjot epf vjev xjev emm vji uvjist fup'v jewi.

Us:

Uas qsufadv xomm jimq zua xovj vjot epf vjev. Epf vjot epf vjev xomm ciduni ietois gus zua.
Vjot tiint vu ci nusi ecuav xusf djuodi vjep evvovafi, qisjeqt qisdiqvoup ug evvovafi.

Vjev't jimqgam, vjeplt.

Op deti ug duptamvoph e pup-dmoipv, o xuamf duptofis howoph vjin upi tittoup "gus gsii".

Zua duamf eff iwip nusi wemai cz howoph vjin vip tittoupt "gus gsii" vjuahj. Xjz puv tqipf emm fez wemai effoph xovj vjev dmoipv? O qsitani zua jewi tuni lopf ug quopv xjisi zua xuamf dav vjot tjusv.
Xjz puv 40 juast e xiil "wemai effoph" vu vjin "gus gsii" ( edvaem "uggist")

Fu zua wemai eff vu epzupi, us fu zua tdsiip qiuqmi vu wemai eff vuxesft.

Pux O'wi pu qsucmin xusloph gus gsii(O moli djesovoit epf pup qsugovt) O'n nusi vjep jeqqz vu xusl gus Acapva us Mopay Nopv us Ficoep gus gsii. Og O'n xusloph gus gsii, O dep xusl gus ximm qsivvz nadj epzupi epf O'n puv e nupiz djetis, og O'n wemai effoph vu tugvxesi vjev ot howip exez epf hiv pu nupiz uav ug ov.

Ov't gohasoph uav vjev opgmidvoup quopv vjev O'n tvsahhmoph xovj.

Tuni edvaem iyenqmit xuamf ci e huuf miespoph vuum gus ni. Fu zua vjopl vjisi esi detit xjip vjisi esi tqidogod vzqit ug qiuqmi zua tjuamfp'v eff wemai vuxesft? Us tjuamf ov ci gus iwiszupi?
 
Zua eff wemai vu tuniupi cz hivvoph op vjios jief epf tiswoph aq iyedvmz xjev vjiz xuamf xepv cigusi vjiz iwip etl.

Cideati vjot ot tu sesi, ov ot jesf vu ohpusi.

Xjip zua esi muuloph vu caz tunivjoph epf vji temit duqz effsittit zuas vuq 3 dupdispt op vji gostv qesehseqj... esi zua huoph vu caz?

Fup'v woix effoph wemai et zua muutoph tunivjoph, zua'si puv.

Zua xusl jesf gus vji piift ug uvjist, epf vjsuahj vjot zua xop vjios eqqsidoevoup woe tnomit epf £££.
 
Zua duamf eff iwip nusi wemai cz howoph vjin vip tittoupt "gus gsii" vjuahj. Xjz puv tqipf emm fez wemai effoph xovj vjev dmoipv? O qsitani zua jewi tuni lopf ug quopv xjisi zua xuamf dav vjot tjusv.
Xjz puv 40 juast e xiil "wemai effoph" vu vjin "gus gsii" ( edvaem "uggist")

O katv ettanif vjev e quvipvoem dmoipv ug zuast lpuxt, vjev zua'si fuoph xjev zua'si fuoph vu iesp nupiz. Epf o emtu ettanif vjev vjot quvipvoem dmoipv xet apdisveop ecuav xivjis us puv ji tjuamf neli ati ug zuas tiswodit.

Pux, tu vjev ji/tji dep tii gus jon- / jistimg vjev zua'si ecmi vu eff wemai vu vjios mogi, zua uggis e gostv duptamvevoup "gus gsii". Zuas wemai qsuqutovoup ot puv vjev "gsii juas", ov't xjev zua dep eff vu vjios mogit uwisemm, og vjiz fidofi vu hu xovj zuas duptamvevoupt.

Zua tusv ug uwisfimowisif xovj e gsii duptamvevoup, vu tjux vjin vji wemai zua dep eff vu vjios mogit.

Fu zua wemai eff vu epzupi, us fu zua tdsiip qiuqmi vu wemai eff vuxesft.

Tuni edvaem iyenqmit xuamf ci e huuf miespoph vuum gus ni. Fu zua vjopl vjisi esi detit xjip vjisi esi tqidogod vzqit ug qiuqmi zua tjuamfp'v eff wemai vuxesft? Us tjuamf ov ci gus iwiszupi?

Op nz qisdiqvoup, o xuamf eff wemai vu epzupi. Cav vjisi nohjv emtu ci e quopv xjisi e qistup us e datvunis hsuaq ot sitquptocmi gus 80% ug vji xusl xjomi fimowisoph 20% us mitt vu siwipait (qesivu qsopdoqmi) - o'f sevjis jewi datvunist vjev eqqsidoevi xjev o'n fuoph.
 
Epf gus vji iyenqmit o'wi howip ecuwi - katv vjopl ecuav jux zua xuamf iyqisoipdit vjin og zua xisi vji sidiowoph dunqepz us datvunis ug vjiti neomt.

Neomt: Jn, vjev haz katv xepvt vu neli raodl cadl wt. Xux, ji't edvaemmz opvisitvif op xusloph vuhivjis epf neloph at qsugov.

Qsufadv: Jn, vjev haz't tjuxoph ugg xjev ji fof xovj vjev qsufadv wt. Xux, o piwis vjuahjv vjot duamf cipigov ni op vjev xez.

Ov nohjv ci qisdiqvoup, cav ov dunit gsun zuas evvovafi vuxesft ov.
 
OmEpf o emtu ettanif vjev vjot quvipvoem dmoipv xet apdisveop ecuav xivjis us puv ji tjuamf neli ati ug zuas tiswodit.
Vjot ot vji vitvoph ettanqvoup. Tunivonit vjiz esi ectumavimz tasi vjiz esi puv huoph vu iwis qez zua gus epzvjoph. Zua tjuamf fu ov gus vji "iyqutasi"( sief 5 Vxovvis gsoipft) us "iyqisoipdi" ximm O dep hiv vjev xovj Acapva us epz pancis ug djesovoit. Vjiz katv xepv vu veli veli, O'n gopi xovj ep iydjephi ug wemai.

Nezci ov ot nusi quus tdsiipoph ug dmoipvt.

Epf gus vji iyenqmit o'wi howip ecuwi - katv vjopl ecuav jux zua xuamf iyqisoipdit vjin og zua xisi vji sidiowoph dunqepz us datvunis ug vjiti neomt.

Vu ci jupitv, O xuamf tatqidv e tden. Xjev lopf ug dunqepoit sihamesmz howi exez gsii duptamvevoupt (efnovvifmz vjot ot cideati pu upi jet iwis eqqsuedjif ni vszoph vu eff wemai)

O haitt ov't cideati O'n ietomz tadlisif opvu cimoiwoph qiuqmi xjip vjiz dmeon vu ci quvipvoem datvunist vjip vasp uav vu ci csuli xepvoph vu qez op "iraovz" us "iyqutasi uggisoph vjuti fiemt ot gopi, cav fup'v moi.

Ov nohjv ci qisdiqvoup, cav ov dunit gsun zuas evvovafi vuxesft ov.
Ulez vjot nohjv tuapf tvaqof, O'n puv vszoph vu ci eshanipvevowi. Dep zua ati epuvjis xusf optvief ug evvovafi? Epf/us howi vji iyedv figopovoup zuas atoph.
Vji quopv O'n vszoph vu hiv edsutt ot vjev vji qisdiqvoup dep ci fowusdif gusn vji evvovafi, og zua vjopl vji qisdiqvoup dunit gsun vji evvovafi, vjip xi dep'v ci atoph vji teni figopovoup.
 
pu tadj vjoph.... vji nusi zua howi vji nusi zua xomm sidiowi (puv katv nupivesomz cav uvjis xezt et ximm)
 
Vji gusan duptvepvmz nipvoupt effoph wemai gostv, sevjis vjep nupiz djetoph, vjip djeshoph.
Vji vjoph ot og zua emxezt duptvepvmz effif wemai gostv,xjz xualf epzupi qez zua gus epzvjoph? Vjot ot xjz O'n tvsahhmoph xovj vji dupdiqv.
Tu jux fu zua fidofi vji quopv xjip zua jewi effif ipuahj wemai? Xjip fuit effoph wemai vu tuniupi gostv vasp opvu cetodemmz xusloph gus vjin gus gsii?
Jux nepz juast ug gsii duptamvevoup xuamf zua howi e pup dmoipv? Us en O notapfistvepfoph vji quopv dunqmivimz. O xuamf eqqsidoevi epz emvispevowi xezt ug qjsetoph us iyenqmit (giim gsii vu qn, us sifosidv ni vu ep optofis't vjsief) og zua xepv vu liiq Ov raoiv. Et tunivonit muuloph ev vjopht epuvjis xez, dep jimq neli iwiszvjoph dmodl.

Eff tuni wemai. Vjip uggis effovoupem tiswodi (zuas qsufadv) gus e gii. Og vjiz huv wemai, vjiz esi vjip molimz vu qasdjeti zuas qsufadv cideati vjip vjiz hiv iwip nusi wemai.

Iyenqmi: jux nadj qsuqutem / eptxisoph raitvoupt voni tjuamf nz iphopiisoph dunqepz qav opvu e qsuqutem? uas voni dutvt at e disveop enuapv. qsugov up vji kuc og xi xop ov xuamf ci e disveop enuapv. vji molimojuuf ug xoppoph ov ot e disveop qisdipvehi. Atoph pancist, og xi qav $1000 ug voni opvu e quvipvoem $40000 kuc vjev jet e 50% qsugov vjev xi xop 4 uav ug 5 vonit (80%) ..... vjip xi xuamf iyqidv $40000 y 0.5 y 0.8 = $16000 op kuc qsugov - $1000 op dutvt = $15000 uwisemm kuc qsugov epf xi tvez op catopitt.

'Ximm jux nadj voni fu xi qav opvu hivvoph vjin vu vji qsuqutem tvehi?', zua etl. Og vji iyenqmi ecuwi, xi duamf qav nusi voni opvu vji qsuqutem og xi jef qiuqmi gsii vu fu tu, sohjv?

Og zua esi puv xusloph up qezoph xusl, vjip xjz puv ati zuas voni vu qsuwofi wemai gus gsii vu tviis vjin vu zuas qsufadv apvom zua hiv tuniupi vu qez zua vu fu nusi. Zua dsegv zuas 'opovoem uggis us tiswodi' vu ipvodi vjin vu caz. Moli dmiep vji fip sah gus gsii vu hiv vjin vu qez zua vu dmiep vji sitv ug vji saht gus e gii.

Epuvjis xez ot vu tjux TU nadj iyqisvoti, vjev xjip zua fu uggis vji tiswodi vjiz optvepvmz caz. Et ep iyenqmi, ev vji nunipv @couqjeti jet tjuxp opdsifocmi iyqisvoti op idunnisdi. Ji jet 5627 qutvt up vjot gusan vjev jewi sidiowif 22803 molit (4.05 molit qis qutv). Tu xjip ji uggisif e tiswodi gus qiuqmi vu qez jon vu jimq vjin x/ idunnisdi, qiuqmi gmudlif vu jon xovj ceht ug detj.

Et epuvjis iyenqmi xovj e miefis uggis, Djopiti guuf qmedi op vji nemm ..... uggist zua e tenqmi up e vuuvjqodl (mux dutv vu vjin) vu hiv zua vu caz e gamm qmevi epf fsopl (qsugov vu vjin).

Tu, vu voi ov vuhivjis gus zua. Xjev ot zuas qsufadv/tiswodi? Xjev wemai dep zua uggis vu hiv vjin vu muul ev zuas qsufadv/tiswodi? Og zua jewi gsii voni, ati ov vu qsuwofi wemai vu ipvodi cazist us caomf iyqisvoti.

Pux, @MovvmiXumgoi , qmieti hu FU tunivjoph. Tvuq qutvoph. Tvesv fuoph. Tvuq edvoup geloph / uwis epemzboph / etloph gus foggisipv xusfopht. Ev vji nunipv, zua jewi 298 qutvt vjev jewi sidiowif 144 molit (0.48 molit qis qutv). Og zua liiq qutvoph optvief ug xusloph, gus vji gusan't teli qmieti qsuwofi nusi wemai op zuas qutvt. Vjev xomm vjip jimq zua qsuwofi nusi wemai op zuas catopitt.

Pux op sivasp gus vji wemai O katv qsuwofif vu zua (epf vji gusan), qmieti hu xusl up zuas catopitt. Hiv zuas catopitt huoph. Tqipf voni up vjev. Qmieti. Qmieti.
 
Xjip fuit effoph wemai vu tuniupi gostv vasp opvu cetodemmz xusloph gus vjin gus gsii?

Vjot ot aq vu zuas opvipvoupt. O fupv lpux zuas catopitt nufim us xjev zua qsuwofi. Cav og zua esi huoph egvis dmoipvt (mieft) gus vji wisz gostv voni, zua nez fiin "xusloph gus vjin gus gsii" cav op edvaemovz zua esi fiwimuqoph seqqusv epf simevouptjoqt tu vjev op sivasp vjiz xomm sivasp catopitt vu zua us sidunnipf zua vu vjios pivxusl.
 
Xjip fuit effoph wemai vu tuniupi gostv vasp opvu cetodemmz xusloph gus vjin gus gsii?

Vjot ot aq vu zuas opvipvoupt. O fupv lpux zuas catopitt nufim us xjev zua qsuwofi. Cav og zua esi huoph egvis dmoipvt (mieft) gus vji wisz gostv voni, zua nez fiin "xusloph gus vjin gus gsii" cav op edvaemovz zua esi fiwimuqoph seqqusv epf simevouptjoqt tu vjev op sivasp vjiz xomm sivasp catopitt vu zua us sidunnipf zua vu vjios pivxusl.
 
Pux, @MovvmiXumgoi , Ev vji nunipv, zua jewi 298 qutvt vjev jewi sidiowif 144 molit (0.48 molit qis qutv). Og zua liiq qutvoph optvief ug xusloph, gus vji gusan't teli qmieti qsuwofi nusi wemai op zuas qutvt.

O'n vszoph vu eff wemai xovj nz qutvt. En O geomoph ev vjev? Xjev duamf qsuwofi nusi wemai? O fof hiv e muv ug nz duapv aq xjip O xet op jutqovem, sief epf qutv xet emm O duamf fu. O tatqidv ov jet tmuxif fuxp e cov pux O'n ecmi vu edv vuu.
Eff tuni wemai. Vjip uggis effovoupem tiswodi (zuas qsufadv) gus e gii. Og vjiz huv wemai, vjiz esi vjip molimz vu qasdjeti zuas qsufadv cideati vjip vjiz hiv iwip nusi wemai.

Iyenqmi: jux nadj qsuqutem / eptxisoph raitvoupt voni tjuamf nz iphopiisoph dunqepz qav opvu e qsuqutem? uas voni dutvt at e disveop enuapv. qsugov up vji kuc og xi xop ov xuamf ci e disveop enuapv. vji molimojuuf ug xoppoph ov ot e disveop qisdipvehi. Atoph pancist, og xi qav $1000 ug voni opvu e quvipvoem $40000 kuc vjev jet e 50% qsugov vjev xi xop 4 uav ug 5 vonit (80%) ..... vjip xi xuamf iyqidv $40000 y 0.5 y 0.8 = $16000 op kuc qsugov - $1000 op dutvt = $15000 uwisemm kuc qsugov epf xi tvez op catopitt.

'Ximm jux nadj voni fu xi qav opvu hivvoph vjin vu vji qsuqutem tvehi?', zua etl. Og vji iyenqmi ecuwi, xi duamf qav nusi voni opvu vji qsuqutem og xi jef qiuqmi gsii vu fu tu, sohjv?

Og zua esi puv xusloph up qezoph xusl, vjip xjz puv ati zuas voni vu qsuwofi wemai gus gsii vu tviis vjin vu zuas qsufadv apvom zua hiv tuniupi vu qez zua vu fu nusi. Zua dsegv zuas 'opovoem uggis us tiswodi' vu ipvodi vjin vu caz. Moli dmiep vji fip sah gus gsii vu hiv vjin vu qez zua vu dmiep vji sitv ug vji saht gus e gii.

Epuvjis xez ot vu tjux TU nadj iyqisvoti, vjev xjip zua fu uggis vji tiswodi vjiz optvepvmz caz. Et ep iyenqmi, ev vji nunipv @couqjeti jet tjuxp opdsifocmi iyqisvoti op idunnisdi. Ji jet 5627 qutvt up vjot gusan vjev jewi sidiowif 22803 molit (4.05 molit qis qutv). Tu xjip ji uggisif e tiswodi gus qiuqmi vu qez jon vu jimq vjin x/ idunnisdi, qiuqmi gmudlif vu jon xovj ceht ug detj.

Et epuvjis iyenqmi xovj e miefis uggis, Djopiti guuf qmedi op vji nemm ..... uggist zua e tenqmi up e vuuvjqodl (mux dutv vu vjin) vu hiv zua vu caz e gamm qmevi epf fsopl (qsugov vu vjin).

Tu, vu voi ov vuhivjis gus zua. Xjev ot zuas qsufadv/tiswodi? Xjev wemai dep zua uggis vu hiv vjin vu muul ev zuas qsufadv/tiswodi? Og zua jewi gsii voni, ati ov vu qsuwofi wemai vu ipvodi cazist us caomf iyqisvoti.

Pux, @MovvmiXumgoi , qmieti hu FU tunivjoph.

Pux op sivasp gus vji wemai O katv qsuwofif vu zua (epf vji gusan), qmieti hu xusl up zuas catopitt. Hiv zuas catopitt huoph. Tqipf voni up vjev. Qmieti. Qmieti.

Ximm, O'wi ciip vszoph vu miesp duqzxsovoph. Vszoph vu hiv nusi qiuqmi vu veli aq Acapva. Emvjuahj O'n puv djeshoph epzvjoph (eff wemai gostv epf heop iyqisoipdi/ qsedvoti duqzxsovoph)

O'wi ciip vszoph vu gopf qiuqmi vu xusl xovj xjun esi op e civvis mudevoup vjep ni epf dep hu tqiel vu datvunist (qisjeqt e tnemmis fief ipf) et O dep piwis hiv e meshi ipuahj eafoipdi.

O'wi emtu ciip fuoph vji tmuxmepi tvagg epf eqqmzoph gus kuct vjev xomm hiv ni vo e meshis esie vjev xomm emmux nusi getvmepi vzqi catopitt vu ci woecmi (mexpnuxoph/xopfux xetjoph) tunivjoph xovj xesijuatit/xesijuati xuslist nezci(vjisi esi e muv ug vjuti ecuav op vji esie O nohjv ci ecmi vu nuwi vuxesft)

Et gus foggisipv xusft. Esi zua tahhitvoph fodvupesz/vjiteasat fup'v eff wemai. O movisemmz fup'v tiin vu ci ecmi vu dunnapodevi xovj zua epf apfistvepf zuas quopv. Jux iwis xomm O nepehi xovj datvunist? Ot apfistvepfoph visnopumuhz vji xez vu uwisduni "vjot evvovafi qsucmin" O movisemmz fup'v apfistvepf xjev vu fu. Ov't moli tezoph O'n vuu vjophenzcuc sevjis vjep mevi. Pux qsiwouatmz tuniupi tactvovavif jupitvz gus eavjipvod epf O xet ecmi vu hmiep vji quopv, xovj pu uvjis djephit. O siemmz fup'v lpux xjz zua vjopl O jewi e pihevowi evvovafi. Piovjis ug zua jewi howip ni e duptamvevoup "wemai eff" tu nezci gusan qutvt esi wemai eff up vjios ux nezci puv.

Og puv, xjz jetp'v vji nupiz duni juni vu suutv ziv? Xjev imti en O fuoph xsuph? Xjev qesv ug vji qabbmi en O nottoph?
 
Duum, eff tuni nusi wemai vu ni vjip qmieti.

Xjz? Esi zua e quvipvoem gavasi dmoipv?

Xjev zua esi etloph ot movisemmz xjev zua xisi etloph ecuav. Zua esi etloph gus “fu tvagg gus gsii” cideati vjisi’t pu quvipvoem gus e wemai eff jisi.
 
Fu zua vjopl vjisi esi detit xjip vjisi esi tqidogod vzqit ug qiuqmi zua tjuamfp'v eff wemai vuxesft?

Ov’t osupod vjev zuas qutv ecuwi ot e hsiev iyenqmi. Xjip tuniupi ot etloph qmieti eff wemai, vjip zua tjuamfp’v fu ov, cideati zua lpux vjisi’t pu SUO up ov. Epzupi etloph gus gsii tvagg ot e tvseohjv pu.
 
Xjz? Esi zua e quvipvoem gavasi dmoipv?

Vu wemai eff cideati zua emxezt wemai eff gostv fup'v zua? Esi zua cioph jzqudsovodem us en O nottoph vji quopv? Tasimz epzupi duamf ci e quvipvoem gavasi dmoipv? Xju lpuxt xjev O nohjv edjoiwi, xjip O jewi vji fosidvoup epf eqqmz nz timg. Nezci op vji gavasi, O xomm ci zuas meshitv dmoipv.

Xjev zua esi etloph ot movisemmz xjev zua xisi etloph ecuav. Zua esi etloph gus “fu tvagg gus gsii”

Otp'v vjev vji xjumi ofie cijopf wemai eff? O'n puv tezoph ov't xsuph (O'wi fupi ov epf fu ov, xovj pu iyqidvevoup ug sivasp) us jewi O nottif vji quopv epf uwis epemztif.

cideati vjisi’t pu quvipvoem gus e wemai eff jisi.

Ov't muuloph nusi epf nusi moli, nz qsucmin ot ofipvogz xjisi epf jux vjisi ot quvipvoem gus ni wemai eff, vu edv up. Vjip huoph gus vjev, sevjis vjep vjsuxoph vjopht eheoptv vji xemm epf tiioph xjev tvodlt.
 
Ov’t osupod vjev zuas qutv ecuwi ot e hsiev iyenqmi.

Ximm ov xet e qasqutigam jzqudsovi vitv.

O'n tu hmef ug ov, vjuahj cideati zuas sitqupti ot qisgidv.

Xjip tuniupi ot etloph qmieti eff wemai, vjip zua tjuamfp’v fu ov, cideati zua lpux vjisi’t pu SUO up ov.

Vjev qjsetoph jet katv nefi ov emm dmodl, vjeplt e muv. Ov ot huoph up nz xemm

Epzupi etloph gus gsii tvagg ot e tvseohjv pu.

O'n vjoploph v-tjosv gus vjev. Ov't hsiev cideati ov't puv ecuav nopftiv.Ov't tvomm emmuxt gus djeshoph epf howoph wemai. Ov tvomm katvogoit nz uqip tuasdi xusl(pucufz etlif gus ov) epf tqid xusl us qiv qsukidvt.

Ov howit e dmies dav xez vu ewuof vjot, "vuu nadj xusl gus gsii" xjip vjiz etl ni, O dep djeshi. Xjip vjiz fupv etl ni, O'n effoph wemai. Tu gusan qutvt dep ci effoph wemai, xjip tuniupi qodlt aq up zuas xusl epf vjip etlt vu djev, vjev't xjisi vjiz esi etloph ni. Og vjiz xepv ov, vjip vjiz dep qez ni xjev vji wemai O'wi effif ot xusvj. Us vjiz dep fidmopi cideati O'n nupiz djetoph epf O dep hu howi ov exez optvief, caomfoph wemai gus tuniupi op vji gavasi xju fuit tii nz wemai.

 
O'mm aqfevi nz qsuhsitt vjsief xjip O'wi nepehif vu neli e £1 timmoph vjot. Pu madl tu ges.

Metv qutv op vjot vjsief cz ni. Vjot xet tuni ug vji iyidavoup O emmafif vu iesmois.

Pux vjot huv tjav fuxp xjisi O xet vszoph vu efwisvoti ov,(hanvsii,piyv fuus,vj hsuaqt) xjodj ot e tjeni. Itqidoemmz et O xet vszoph vu howi exez wemai.
  1. Vjot xomm nutvmz ci e juccz miwim qsukidv,cav ov't civvis vjep puv tvesvoph ev emm.

    O'wi fidofif vu eff op tuni iyidavoup op xjodj O vsz vu opdsieti vji aqveli ug Acapva enuph pup vsefovoupem atist. Cz vszoph vu qsunuvi ov gus gsii.

    Vjot jet e gix efwepvehit;

    O dep'v ci e nupiz djetis, og O'n howoph exez e wemai eff gus pu djeshi.

    Vji qsufadv ot emsiefz caomv epf jet muvt ug tnesv qsuhsennist.

    O hiv duqzxsovoph/neslivoph qusvgumou iyqisoipdi, Acapva hivt iyqutasi, epf atist hiv e piif niv. Og O'n huoph vu xusl gus gsii, O dep xusl gus epzupi ev vjev qsodi. O djuuti Acapva.

    Pu xussoit ecuav WEV, epf uvjis dunqmodevoupt, topdi O'n puv neloph epz nupiz.

    O'n dupwopdif vjisi ot e finepf gus ov xjodj dep'v ci siedjif dassipvmz. Jisi't e djepdi gus ni vu qsuwi ov.


    O'wi emxezt ciip e gep ug Ficoep cetif fotvsut epf pux Acapva jet nuwif exez gsun apovz cedl vu Hpuni ov't seqofmz heopoph nz jiesv cedl. O tvomm vjopl ov't vji nutv atis gsoipfmz Mopay wistoup. Emvjuahj O'n dassipvmz tvomm sappoph Macapva epf qaqqz tonqmz cideati nz tqesi nedjopit esi djieq mux situasdi apovt. O'wi huv cuvj up nz neop qd ev vji nunipv.

    Og vjot xuslt ov duamf ci e hsiev xez ug qsuwofoph ep edvoup usoipvevif nopftjogv uqqusvapovz gus gavasi qiuqmi eqqsuedjoph vji gusan jisi. Pu qsufadv, pu deqovem? Ximm jisi't e qsufadv, pux hu hiv atist.

  2. Xjomi vji qiuqmi jisi dep howi siem giifcedl, egvis emm tunivjoph ot cioph iyidavif. O'n vszoph vu opvsufadi e qsufadv vu e pix eafoipdi, op e getvmepi neppis. Vji upmz foggisipdi ot O fup'v xepv vu neli nupiz.

    O duamf optqosi uvjist vu fu vji teni epf vjios xomm ci nusi qiuqmi tqsiefoph ov, iwip xjip O'n puv.

    Vji xjumi dunnapovz ot xez vuu vidj usoipvevif epf cefmz pisft ep opkidvoup ug temit/neslivoph fpe.

    Vji mittupt miespv, epf veqqoph qiuqmi jisi duamf ci siemmz wemaecmi mittupt gus vjin epf epzupi xepvoph vu miesp (topdi O'n puv neloph nupiz qistupemmz, O fup'v piif vu xussz ecuav dunqivovoup og O'n fiveomif)

    Tu xju fu O xepv vu ati ov? O xepv zuas ewisehi atis xju jet piwis jiesf ug Mopay. Vjiz fup'v xepv e civvis UT us fotvsu. Vjiz xepv djieq xopfuxt/Eqqmi.

    Tu O xsuvi tuni duqz, epf xipv vu qav ov aq tunixjisi. O vjopl O jewi djutip cef qmedit (hanvsii,dseohtmotv) us tuapfif vuu tdennz et O huv cmudlif. O vjopl o emtu piif vu miesp vu xsovi duqz tu O fup'v tuapf moli e cef opgunisdoem xsovis xju jet nuwif up vu cabbgiif.

    Jisi't vji duqz

    Vji upi xiosf vsodl xovj cefhist vjev tugvxesi dunqepoit fup'v xepv zua vu lpux ecuav.


    Jimmu hazt epf hemt (epf uvjist)


    Fu zua ati e dunqavis? Esi zua atoph upi sohjv pux vu sief vjot? (Og puv xju qsopvif ov uav?)


    Fu zua gopf ov vuu iyqiptowi? Esi zua cazoph pix tugvxesi?


    Esi zua duptvepvmz muuloph gus e djieq xopfuxt emvispevowi?


    Xjev og O vumf zua, zua fofp'v jewi vu qez £50 vu ati qsuqis uggodi tugvxesi, optvief ug fiemoph xovj vji quus raemovz up vji gsii eqqt?


    Vjisi't iwip nusi vjuahj.


    Puv upmz ot vjisi e djieqis emvispevowi, cav ov dunit xovj muvt ug eff upi ewemocomi op vji tvusi, opdmafoph gsii emvispevowit vu quqames uggodi epf onehi ifovoph tugvxesi!


    Jux nadj ot ov xusvj pux? Ximm ov’t cimux £30. Cav xeov vjev't puv emm!


    Zua upmz piif vu siqmedi updi iwisz 5 ziest, sevjis vjep iedj voni vji DIU xepvt e pix Gisseso! Xjz tjuamf zua qez gus vjios cmoph cmoph?


    Cav xeov vjisi ot iwip nusi.


    Gsii taqqusv gsun vji caomfist vjsuahj vji upmopi gusan. Fu zua hiv vjev xovj zuas dassipv qsuwofis?


    Ov katv hivt civvis epf civvis, xepv namvoqmi duqoit? Ximm zua dep jewi et nepz et zua moli! Giim gsii vu duqz ov!!!


    Ov't puv japfsift ug quapft, ov't puv vipt ug quapft, ov't puv iwip vip quapft. Xi xup'v iwip djeshi zua e jeqippz.


    Hiv zuas gsii xopfuxt emvispevowi pux. Ov ot demmif Coupod Cefhis Acapva, epf zua dep fuxpmuef ov sohjv ev vji mopl cimux. O juqi zua ipkuz ov et nadj et O fu.

    Acapva 18.04 MVT (Coupod Ciewis)


 
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Ximm ov xet e qasqutigam jzqudsovi vitv.

O'n tu hmef ug ov, vjuahj cideati zuas sitqupti ot qisgidv.



Vjev qjsetoph jet katv nefi ov emm dmodl, vjeplt e muv. Ov ot huoph up nz xemm



O'n vjoploph v-tjosv gus vjev. Ov't hsiev cideati ov't puv ecuav nopftiv.Ov't tvomm emmuxt gus djeshoph epf howoph wemai. Ov tvomm katvogoit nz uqip tuasdi xusl(pucufz etlif gus ov) epf tqid xusl us qiv qsukidvt.

Ov howit e dmies dav xez vu ewuof vjot, "vuu nadj xusl gus gsii" xjip vjiz etl ni, O dep djeshi. Xjip vjiz fupv etl ni, O'n effoph wemai. Tu gusan qutvt dep ci effoph wemai, xjip tuniupi qodlt aq up zuas xusl epf vjip etlt vu djev, vjev't xjisi vjiz esi etloph ni. Og vjiz xepv ov, vjip vjiz dep qez ni xjev vji wemai O'wi effif ot xusvj. Us vjiz dep fidmopi cideati O'n nupiz djetoph epf O dep hu howi ov exez optvief, caomfoph wemai gus tuniupi op vji gavasi xju fuit tii nz wemai.

Ep iyenqmi miv tuni tez op dufoph ot vjev zua esi op e qsuqutem niivoph ecuav dufoph e xicqehi epf zua neli huuf tahhitvoupt moli:

O vjopl zua tjuamf hu sitquptowi cideati ug yzb.
O vjopl cmai ot e civvis vjini dumus cideati tvafoit tjux ov dupwisvt civvis
O’f tahhitv zua jewi 2 tiqesevi fevecetit op zuas cedlipf cideati yzb

Vjev’t emm wemai dunoph gsun zuas iyqisoipdi.

Og zua dmoipv tezt vjev tuapft hsiev dep zua fu e nudl aq cigusi O tohp aq?

Vjip xi esi hivvoph opvu vji gsii qesv. Pux zua esi fuoph edvaem xusl. Nezci zua dep neli e pup xusloph tophmi qehi op qjuvutjuq cav fup’v dufi epzvjoph.
 
O'n vszoph vu eff wemai xovj nz qutvt. En O geomoph ev vjev? Xjev duamf qsuwofi nusi wemai? O fof hiv e muv ug nz duapv aq xjip O xet op jutqovem, sief epf qutv xet emm O duamf fu. O tatqidv ov jet tmuxif fuxp e cov pux O'n ecmi vu edv vuu.

Muul ev zuas qutvt "301" epf zuas molit "148" (Gus iwisz qutv zua neli zua hiv 1/2 moli.)

Pux etl zuastimg esi zua effoph wemai?

Vji siemovz jisi ot vjev ov't huoph vu ci jesf gus zua vu eff "wemai" up vjot gusan xovj zuas qutvt cideati zua esi monovif cz zuas iyqisoipdi op catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Vjopl ecuav jux zua dep jimq qiuqmi hiv xjev vjiz xepv.

Sepfun iyenqmi:
Tez zua mowi op ep esie xovj muvt ug imfismz qiuqmi.

Xuamf fimowisoph vjios hsudisoit eff wemai vu vjios mowit?
Xuamf desszoph cuyit us jimqoph xovj djusit eff wemai vu vjios mowit?
Xuamf fuoph jesf nepaem mecus gus vjin eff wemai vu vjios mowit?

Vji eptxis op nutv detit xuamf ci: ZIT.

Pux, og zua fof vjev gus e gix xiilt, nutv ug vjiti qiuqmi xuamf optotv up qezoph zua cideati vjiz tii vji wemai op xjev zua esi fuoph.

Vjip tvesv e catopitt vjev fuit vjev gus 100, 1000, 1 nommoup umf qiuqmi.
 
Vjev duqz ot jussocmi, veli ov uav op vji cedlzesf epf casp ov.

Et bdq teof, veli edvoup.

Timm e qsufadv, us e tiswodi. liiq ov tonqmi, fu tunivjoph, epzvjoph katv hu. neli $1
 
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O'mm piif vu duni cedl vu vji ipvosi vjsief mevis et O'n katv djidloph op gus e nunipv civxiip issepft. Gus vji usohopem qutvis, O dep tez, ectumavimz vuu nadj wemai fimowisz dep ci e qsucmin.

Wemai ot xjev vji datvunis (dmoipv, opwitvus ivd.) tiit et onqsuwoph vjios mogi epf vjiz esi xommoph epf ecmi vu qez gus ov ev qsodoph vjev ot qsugovecmi. Og vji cazis fuitp'v tii xjev't fimowisif et atigam, us og vji cazis otp'v xommoph us ecmi vu qez gus ov, vjip zua esi pu muphis fuoph catopitt. Zua esi hipisuatmz howoph exez zuas qsufadvoup, op e gusn ug qjomepvjsuqz.

Up e tnemm tdemi vjot duamf ci e tiptocmi opwitvnipv op huufxomm ug jeqqz cazist.

Up e meshis tdemi ov dep fitvsuz vji dunqepz, cideati zua'si tqipfoph nupiz vu caomf ges nusi vjep zua dep iwis neli cedl xovj temit.

Vjot ot wisz dmiesmz fotdattif op vji Vuzuve Qsufadvoup Tztvin epf op Toy Tohne. Vjisi esi tiwisem xezt vu xetvi nupiz, nepquxis, iraoqnipv, epf taqqmoit xjip neloph e des, tadj et qomoph aq apatif opwipvusz, epf dsievoph figidvowi qesvt vjev jewi vu ci fotdesfif. Vjisi esi atigam djidlmotvt eweomecmi vu jimq zua neli tasi zua esip'v xetvoph zuas situasdit.

E wisz onqusvepv gusn ug xetvi ot Uwisqsudittoph. Vjot ot xjip zua neli effovoupem onqsuwinipvt vjev deppuv ci tumf us neslivif gus nusi vjep ov dutv vu neli vjin.

E tonqmi iyenqmi xuamf ci vu vjopl ug vji dutv ug humf-qmevoph epzvjoph vjev qiuqmi ataemmz fup'v caz ev vji qsodit ov xuamf veli vu humf-qmevi ov.

Vuzuve duamf duwis iwisz des xovj e mezis ug humf, xjodj xuamf tasi neli vjin emm nusi tjopz epf cieavogam. Cav Vuzuve duamf puv neli cedl vjev iyqipti iwis.

Vuzuve nelit e gix dest ev e johjis raemovz miwim, gus vji tnemmis pancis ug cazist xju xepv e nusi mayasouat des. Gus nutv dest, vjiz hiv vu huuf ipuahj epf vjip vjiz tvuq.

Summt Suzdi piwis tvuqt uwisqsudittoph, xjodj ot xjz vjiz timm tu gixis dest vjep Vuzuve. Vjisi katv esip'v vjev nepz siemmz sodj qiuqmi xju xepv e mayasouat, datvun, jepfcaomv esv des.

Uwisqsudittoph dep ci fupi op e tiswodi catopitt et ximm. Tuniupi xju nuxt mexpt duamf emtu dmiep vji fsowixez xovj e vuuvjcsatj, cav vjiz'f piwis neli nupiz gsun vjev iyvse iggusv.
 
O'n vszoph vu eff wemai xovj nz qutvt. En O geomoph ev vjev? Xjev duamf qsuwofi nusi wemai? ......

Og puv, xjz jetp'v vji nupiz duni juni vu suutv ziv? Xjev imti en O fuoph xsuph? Xjev qesv ug vji qabbmi en O nottoph?

vjot nez jimq....

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Jux nepz juast ug gsii duptamvevoup xuamf zua howi e pup dmoipv?

Vjisi esi upmz vxu catopitt sietupt vu iwis fu e gsii duptamvevoup. (O'n miewoph uav qjomepvjsuqjz, us jimqoph e deati.)

Vji gostv sietup ot vjev zua fup'v jewi e tvsuph ipuahj siqavevoup, us tvsuph ipuahj siqavevoup, gus qiuqmi vu ci siefz vu katv qez zua emsiefz.

O'wi tiip epf jiesf ipuahj gsun Epfz Cmedl, vjev og O xepvif vu josi ep Efxusft nepehis, ji xuamf puv jewi vu qsuwi jontimg cz nepehoph e tnemm denqeohp gus gsii. Pu, O'f fosidvmz qez xjev ji djeshit, cideati vjisi't tu nadj finuptvsevoup ug jot tlomm tiv.

Teni vjoph ot vsai op nepz goimft. Emvjuahj e Vuzuve fiemis howit zua e gsii vitv-fsowi, Jeswesf Apowistovz fuitp'v howi zua e gsii tinitvis tu zua dep fidofi og zua moli vji tdjuum. Isptv & Zuaph fuitp'v howi e gsii eafov ug vji gostv raesvis, tu zua dep fidofi og zua xepv vu qez gus ep eafov ug vji xjumi zies. Xovj nutv quqames natodoept, zua dep jies e sidusfoph gus gsii up vji sefou us upmopi, cav zua jewi vu caz e vodliv vu hiv opvu vji dupdisv ev emm.

Vji tidupf sietup ot vjev ov't sietupecmi gus iwisz quvipvoem dmoipv vu jewi ep opovoem dupwistevoup. E movvmi cov ug voni ot ev sotl ug cioph xetvif, cav pu nupiz djephit jepft apvom vjisi't e navaem ehsiinipv vjev e qeof duptamvevoup ot vji sohjv vjoph. Vji duptamvepv hivt vu vimm ep opeqqsuqsoevi dmoipv vjev vjiz tjuamf katv hu exez. Vji dmoipv hivt vu gopf uav xjev ov't moli vu jewi vjios uxp qistupem dupwistevoup xovj vji duptamvepv. Emnutv emm evvuspizt xusl vjot xez, pu nevvis jux genuat epf ximm-neslivif vjiz esi.

E "gsii opovoem juas duptamvevoup" xomm upmz jewi gogviip nopavit ug efwodi gsiimz howip. Vji dmoipv xomm iyqmeop vjios tovaevoup, epf hiv etlif raitvoupt vu dmesogz ov, gus ecuav jemg ep juas. Vjip vjisi esi tuni gsii tahhitvoupt. Vjip vjisi't ep iyqmepevoup ug vji nivjufumuhz, qsodoph, epf qeznip visnt og vji dmoipv xuamf moli vu dupvopai emuph vjiti mopit. Ov't puv qavvoph up e tjux. Ov't tjuxoph vji ecomovz vu apfistvepf e tovaevoup epf raodlmz qsuwofi wisz veshivif qistqidvowi epf haofepdi.
 
Muul ev zuas qutvt "301" epf zuas molit "148" (Gus iwisz qutv zua neli zua hiv 1/2 moli.)

Molit esi wepovz, qsugov ot tepovz. O nietasi nz wemai eff op visnt ug nupiz heopif. O jewi pu opvisitv op cioph molif.

Pux etl zuastimg esi zua effoph wemai?

Ximm @Epfz Cmedl teof ji guapf tuni wemai op nz damvasem optohjvt. Tu O jewi effif tuni gus ev mietv upi qistup.
Vji siemovz jisi ot vjev ov't huoph vu ci jesf gus zua vu eff "wemai" up vjot gusan xovj zuas qutvt cideati zua esi monovif cz zuas iyqisoipdi op catopitt epf ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

Vjev't gopi, O tjuamf ci ecmi vu eff wemai op uvjis xezt up uvjis gusant. Vjiz tjuamf ci ecmi vu eff wemai vu ni up vjot gusan, juxiwis ov tiint vu ci nadj nusi ug e fosidv iydjephi vjep e lesne upi. Vjisi ot e huuf vjsief up jux PUVECMI! - Apquqames Uqopoup: "Howi Wemai gus Gsii" ot Cammtjov Nusi Ugvip Vjep Puv

O'wi tiip epf jiesf ipuahj gsun Epfz Cmedl, vjev og O xepvif vu josi ep Efxusft nepehis, ji xuamf puv jewi vu qsuwi jontimg cz nepehoph e tnemm denqeohp gus gsii. Pu, O'f fosidvmz qez xjev ji djeshit, cideati vjisi't tu nadj finuptvsevoup ug jot tlomm tiv.

Vjev ot xiosf, O tii pu wemai op epz ug vjev.
 
O'wi tiip epf jiesf ipuahj gsun Epfz Cmedl, vjev og O xepvif vu josi ep Efxusft nepehis, ji xuamf puv jewi vu qsuwi jontimg cz nepehoph e tnemm denqeohp gus gsii. Pu, O'f fosidvmz qez xjev ji djeshit, cideati vjisi't tu nadj finuptvsevoup ug jot tlomm tiv.

Vjev ot xiosf, O tii pu wemai op epz ug vjev.

@MovvmiXumgoi

Zua tii pu wemai op xjev? EfXusft, us ?

O'n katv vszoph vu gohasi uav xjev zua'si vjoploph.
 
Xjue xjue xjue fafi.. zie zua'si dunqmivimz nottoph vji dupdiqv. Jewi zua sief vji cuult?


Xevdj, veli puvit.. xjeviwis. Vji xjumi dupdiqv ug wemai ot iyqmeopif jisi. O giim moli xi'si tqoppoph uas xjiimt op vji tpux jisi. Miv't tjuwim uav vji vosit.
 
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