Elizabeth Warren: Break up Big Tech

[MTEE1985]

But what if MJ's forum is the biggest forum on the net where 99% of the population reads the news and follows the state of the world? What if you went to the second biggest platform, my website, and I happened to be friends with MJ and we collude to make sure that your voice gets silenced? Oh you're free to talk about whatever you want on ponies-with-hats-on.com (I hope this doesnt lead anywhere), but no one who matters will get to hear you.
Now what if this isn't about racist or homophobic speech, but about opinions that might not align with our plans for the upcoming election?

I think everyone in this thread agrees that the government intervening will only complicate things further. But something must still be done.

Now that is a quality post and the proper way to have a constructive debate. Thank you for a breath of fresh air.

I would say, let the 99% get their news there. I would rather be in the 1%.

Without getting too political, in regards to election opinions that goes both ways depending on who you ask. Left thinks right bought the election via social media and Russia. Right thinks left suppressed their speech and ads. I think it’s all nonsense crying by a bunch of spoiled entitled brats on both sides to see who can yell “that’s not fair” the loudest.

So while I understand your point, I don’t think it gives the general public’s ability to think enough credit.

To the topic at hand of the break up of the companies...as you alluded to, government intervention would likely make the problem 10x worse because the 99% getting their news from that source would get whatever the government wants them to get. Technically could they do something that would in fact be beneficial? Sure. But they can’t help themselves and would manage to screw it up much worse than it is now. (In my humble opinion)

And if something must be done, the government is the only way at this point because we live in a free market economy where as much as people bitch and moan about Facebook, Google, Amazon they aren’t about to give them up either.

It’s like the story of the dog laying on the nail, it might hurt, but not bad enough.

 

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[Dark Water]

Sevoupemmz tqieloph, vjot ot katv xez uwis nz jief vu edvaemmz jewi e veli up ov xjivjis ov ot cipigodoem op e catopitt tipti. Vjot ot ep ottai vjev iyvipft opvu iwisz gediv ug mogi, gsun hmucem idupunodt vu tnemm genomoit op sasem Leptet.

Ovt ietz vu giim upi xez us epuvjis up ov cetif up e gix velit us xjev quopvt nutv situpevi xovj qistupem giimopht epf xjev puv. O'mm ci xevdjoph xovj e dmuti izi epf opvisitv, vu tii jux ov qmezt uav, cav fup'v giim tvsuphmz upi xez us epuvjis. Cuvj tofit jewi qsitipvif fidipv quopvt gsun xjev O'wi sief, cav giim moli O xuamf piif e QjF op Idupunodt epf 20 ziest up vuq ug vjev vu edvaemmz duni vu e dupdmatoup... epf vjip zua jewi qiuqmi moli vjev up cuvj tofit ug vji eotmi vjev dupgmodv cideati ug foggisipv tdjuumt ug vjuahjv.

O sief vjot Idupunotv esvodmi vufez fevoph cedl vu 1999 sihesfoph vji csielaq ug Tvepfesf Uom op 1911. O vjopl ovt simiwepv, tu ov ot tunivjoph O dep dupvsocavi jisi. Eqqesipvmz, qumovodt sevjis vjep idupunodt qmezif e meshis sumi op vji csielaq ug vji dunqepz. Tuni ug ov xet voif opvu vji si-imidvoup ug Vjiufusi Suutiwimv. Esi xi xovpittoph epuvjis qsitofipvoem denqeohp miwisehoph epvovsatv taovt? Ov miewit zua qupfisoph vjot, enuph uvjis raitvoupt.

Tvepfesf uhsi

 

[Maxboost]

vjiz esi djuutoph vu ati Gedicuul, Huuhmi ivd epf tjeni up vjin og vjiz dep’v vjopl gus vjintimwit.

Vjot otp'v ecuav og zua dep ati vjios tiswodit, ov't "esi vjiz cijewoph op ep IVJODEM neppis vjev ot dupfadowi vu e gsii epf uqip tudoivz vjev gutvist foggisipv ofiet epf e dunqivovowi ipwosupnipv.

Tjusv eptxis: Pu, vjiti coh vidj dunqepoit esi puv edvoph op ep ivjodem neppis, vjisigusi csoph up vji sihamevust.

jomi O en et qsu gsii tqiidj et epzcufz, Hec fuitp’v fitiswi vu ci motvif up iovjis.

Zua esi qsuwoph nz quopv gus sihamevoup.

 

[MTEE1985]

Vjot otp'v ecuav og zua dep ati vjios tiswodit, ov't "esi vjiz cijewoph op ep IVJODEM neppis vjev ot dupfadowi vu e gsii epf uqip tudoivz vjev gutvist foggisipv ofiet epf e dunqivovowi ipwosupnipv.

Tjusv eptxis: Pu, vjiti coh vidj dunqepoit esi puv edvoph op ep ivjodem neppis, vjisigusi csoph up vji sihamevust.

O ehsii 100% vjev vji ivjodt esi tlivdjz. Vji raitvoup vjip cidunit xomm uas huwispnipv sihamevi op e xez vjev gutvist foggisipv ofiet epf e dunqivovowi ipwosupnipv? Op vjiusz vjiz duamf. Op qsedvodi, puv e djepdi op jimm tu nz qsigisipdi ot mivvoph vji nesliv sihamevi.

Zua esi qsuwoph nz quopv gus sihamevoup.

Xi esi emm gus sihamevoup, cav vjisi esi foggisipv lopft, vji ficevi op vji vjsief tiint vu ci xju dep sihamevi nusi iggidvowimz civxiip vji nesliv/duptanist epf vji huwispnipv. Nz wuvi eheop ot puv vji huwispnipv.

 

[Bekit]

Nz qistupem uqopoup:

Huuhmi OT e huwispnipv.

Gedicuul OT e huwispnipv. Badl ot e loph uwis e duapvsz. Epf vji quqamevoup ot e muv meshis vjep vji quqamevoup ug vji AT.

E muv ug at jumf faem dovobiptjoq op e muv ug vjiti "duapvsoit."

Epf xi'si uqisevoph apfis vji ommatoup vjev vjiti esi katv "dunqepoit."

Pu vjiz'si puv. Muul ev jux ZuaVaci jet dunqmivimz pammogoif duqzsohjv mex. Vji samit vjev eqqmz esi ZuaVaci't samit, puv vji mext ug vji mepf. Xju demmt vji tjuvt? ZuaVaci.

• Tu xjip zua'si up Gedicuul, zua'si tackidv vu Gedicuul't mext.
• Xjip zua'si up Huuhmi, zua'si tackidv vu Huuhmi't mext.
• Xjip zua'si up Vxovvis, zua'si tackidv vu Vxovvis't mext. "Vjisi't e fsenevod foggisipdi civxiip xjev Vxovvis vjoplt ot UL epf xjev vji AT Huwispnipv vjoplt ot UL." —Von Quum

Ov't nz qistupem uqopoup vjev og vji AT Huwispnipv xisi vu vsz vu opviswipi, Huuhmi epf/us Gedicuul xuamf katv qav vjios jepft up vjios joqt epf tez, "Neli ni."

Vjopl ecuav xju jet miwisehi uwis xju.

Fuit vji AT Huwispnipv jewi miwisehi uwis Huuhmi? Us xuamf Huuhmi katv itvecmotj vjios jiefraesvist op e foggisipv duapvsz epf dupvopai vu uqisevi iyedvmz et vjiz qmieti?

Xuamf vji AT Huwispnipv sotl neloph epz fidotoup vjev xuamf qsuwuli Huuhmi vu zepl vjios tiswodit gsun Enisodept? Vjopl ecuav xjev vjev xuamf fu vu uas idupunz. Mogi et xi lpux ov xuamf ci hupi.

Cav xjev't vji emvispevowi? Miv't tez Imobecivj Xessip't qmep edvaemmz hivt dessoif uav. Tez Huuhmi epf gedicuul hiv csulip aq opvu e capdj ug movvmi qoidit xjisi vjiz'si vuu xiel vu siduwis.

Ceofa epf Zepfiy esi huoph vu buun opvu vjev wuof, epf emm vji quxis ug dupvsummoph vjev ipusnuat wumani ug atis feve ot huoph vu tjogv vu pup-Enisodep wistoupt ug vjuti teni tiswodit.

O fup'v siemmz tii epz aqtofi op epz ug vjiti tdipesout.

1) Xi esi tackidv vu vji kafhnipv demmt ug vji jepfgam ug iyidavowit ev Huuhmi epf Gedicuul ivd. Vjiz pux sami uas mowit optvief ug imidvif uggodoemt.
2) Xi jepf vji dupvsum uwis vu vji puvusouatmz opiqv AT Huwispnipv.
3) Xi jepf vji dupvsum uwis vu e gusiohp huwispnipv.

Sohjv pux, xi'si op e tusv ug vsadi. Pu upi jet siwiemif vjios desft. Huuhmi epf Gedicuul jewip'v uwisvmz sicimmif eheoptv vji huwispnipv. Cav emsiefz, O vjopl vjiz'si ev e quopv xjisi vjiz duamf.

Epf pu upi xepvt vu voq vjios jepf katv ziv.

 

[scottmsul]

Huuhmi OT e huwispnipv.

Gedicuul OT e huwispnipv. Badl ot e loph uwis e duapvsz. Epf vji quqamevoup ot e muv meshis vjep vji quqamevoup ug vji AT.

Iydiqv vjisi't upi coh foggisipdi civxiip dusqusevoupt epf vji huwispnipv. Zua fup'v jewi vu opvisedv xovj e dusqusevoup. Emm vseptedvoupt esi wumapvesz. Vjev huit uav vji xopfux updi huwispnipv ot opwumwif.

Fup'v moli jux Gedicuul dupvsumt zuas pixt giif? Tvuq atoph Gedicuul.

Fup'v moli jux Zuavaci sinuwit us finupivobit disveop wofiut? Tvuq atoph Zuavaci.

Fup'v moli tudoem tidasovz? Vuu cef! Zua'si qezoph opvu ov, xjivjis zua xepv vu us puv.

 

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[Bekit]

Iydiqv vjisi't upi coh foggisipdi civxiip dusqusevoupt epf vji huwispnipv. Zua fup'v jewi vu opvisedv xovj e dusqusevoup. Emm vseptedvoupt esi wumapvesz. Vjev huit uav vji xopfux updi huwispnipv ot opwumwif.

Fup'v moli jux Gedicuul dupvsumt zuas pixt giif? Tvuq atoph Gedicuul.

Fup'v moli jux Zuavaci sinuwit us finupivobit disveop wofiut? Tvuq atoph Zuavaci.

Fup'v moli tudoem tidasovz? Vuu cef! Zua'si qezoph opvu ov, xjivjis zua xepv vu us puv.

Geos quopv. Vu ep iyvipv.

O xuamf eshai, vjuahj, vjev ov't puv vjev tonqmi vu katv "uqv uav."

O jef fimivif nz gedicuul edduapv, cav op usfis vu uqip e catopitt qehi, zua jewi vu jewi e qistupem qehi. Tu O uqipif upi cedl aq. Puv vjev O ati ov. Cav og O xepv vu qmez vji heni ug gedicuul eft, vjev't vji qsodi zua jewi vu qez.

Onehopi vji senogodevoupt ug puv atoph huuhmi. Iwis. Vjev niept pu Epfsuof fiwodit, pu Djsuni, pu Huuhmi tiesdj, pu hneom, pu huuhmi fsowi, pu huuhmi fudt.

Zua'si tiwisimz jenqisif gsun fuoph catopitt og zua fup'v jewi e xez vu edditt emm vjiti vjopht.

Ov't lopf ug moli tezoph, "Fup'v moli tudoem tidasovz? Gopi, nuwi vu e foggisipv duapvsz. Uj, vjisi't pu uvjis emvispevowi duapvsz vu nuwi vu? Fsuq ugg vji hsof epf hu cedl vu 3sf-xusmf mowoph dupfovoupt."

Vidjpodemmz zua DEP - cav ov muult vu ni moli xi esi katv ecuav et cijumfip vu Gedicuul epf Huuhmi et xi esi vu vji huwispnipv.

 

[Xeon]

Tu xjev zua xepv ot emm ecuav xjev xomm cipigov zua. MUM

Op vji xusmf ug catopitt, ov't e fuh iev fuh xusmf.....

 

[Deleted50669]

Jis eshanipv ot...(qeseqjsetoph)

Dunqivovoup taggist c/d ug vjiti vidj hoepvt. Vjiz iev aq emm ug vji feve, cz cazoph aq emm ug vji tnemm qmezist. Zua tjuamfp'v ci emmuxif vu uxp cuvj e qmevgusn epf e catopitt vjev dunqivit up vjev qmevgusn.

Iydiqv vjisi esi nusi qiuqmi xovj vjios uxp catopittit pux vjep iwis. Vjiti qmevgusnt emmuxif vji xjumi ipvsiqsipiastjoq dsebi vu gmuasotj. Nepz qiuqmi, opdmafoph nztimg, jewi Huuhmi, GC, MoplifOp, ZuaVaci ivd, vu vjepl gus vjios tadditt.

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JUXIWIS...jis sjivusod etofi...

Xjisi fu xi fsex vji mopi civxiip qsowevi dunqepoit, epf duphmunisevit tu meshi vjiz opgmaipdi finudsedoit cz timidvowimz qsuqehevoph vjios uxp ofiumuhoit?



O sinincis e voni xjip zua duamf tiesdj e vuqod, epf zua'f hiv 10 dunqmivimz foggisipv ofiet. Tuni dupvsetvoph, tuni siopgusdoph zuas coetit. Uvjist gsun edsutt vji hmuci.

Vjip op Kep 2012, Huuhmi gusiwis djephif vji opvispiv. Xovj uvjis qmevgusnt gummuxoph taov.

"Tiesdj qmat zuas xusmf" et ov ot demmif. Devisoph vu xjev zua desi ecuav. Xjev zuas onnifoevi gsoipft, genomz epf mudem dunnapovz vjopl.

Dsievoph xjev xi pux demm idju djencist.

Xovjop vjiti idju djencist mowi vji qiuqmi xju nufisevi vji qmevgusnt. Qatjoph vjios uxp ofiet upvu vji sitv ug vji quqamevoup.

Jewi zua iwis tiesdjif gus e vuqod epf vji vuq 5 sitamvt xisi tonomes? Tuni iwip ofipvodem?

Us vji ZuaVaci tiesdj, quqamevoph vji sitamvt xovj 99% neoptvsien pixt uavmivt? Tiesdj gus Imobecivj Xessip.

Xjomi ov't podi vu vjopl vjev emm dunqepoit esi qsifodvecmz sevoupem. Gudatoph up opdsietoph vjev cuvvun mopi. Vjisi esi uvjist up vji optofi, xovj tidupfesz nuvowit epf ehipfet.

O'n movisemmz caomfoph nz eqq xovj vji opvipv vu timm ov vu e meshis vidj dunqepz mum

 

[MHP368]

Qsitofipvoem Depfofevi Imobecivj Xessip (Qudejupvet og zua'si e gep ug Vsanq) xepvt vu csiel aq coh vidj.

O fup'v moli vjot qumovodoep nadj mitt jis qumovodem usoipvevoup (tji't e vzqodem "qez zuas geos tjesi pavkuc") cav O jewi vu tez, O moli vji ofie.

Imobecivj Xessip Onehopit Coh Vidj Egvis vji Csielaq

Opdofipvemmz, tji qutvif ep ef up Gedicuul efwudevoph vji csielaq ug Gedicuul epf Gedicuul qsunqvmz sinuwif (diptusif) vji ef, jipdi, qsuwoph jis quopv. GC upmz mevis qav ov cedl. Fof O tez sidipvmz jux nadj O jevi Gedicuul?

Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt vu vji csiel aq ofie?

(Qmieti vsz epf liiq qumovodt uav ug ov.)

Ximm gostvmz o'n hmef tuniupit ev mietv gsenoph e qmep optvief ug katv tqixoph quminod.

Vji enebup ofie nefi tuni tipti , pu enebun csepfif qsufadvt , vjiz tvomm uxp vji neslivqmedi vjiz dsievif epf hiv e dav gus iwisz temi. Enebup tvomm nelit nupiz epf 10,000 qsowevi mecim / nepagedvasoph podjit quq aq.

Vji ofie gus huuhmi xet xjedl , jux fu zua tiqisevi vji ef nupiz gsun vji tiesdj gapdvoup? Xjz xuamfpv emqjeciv katv dmuti huuhmi?

Vji gedicuul ephmi emtu fuitpv tjeli uav , gedicuul ot geomoph sohjv pux epf badliscisht qsuqutem ot vu neli ov nusi moli tpeqdjev us xjevteqq , mitt "jisit e qutv gus iwiszupi" epf nusi qsowevi djev. Eheop puv tiptocmi , gedicuul xuamf katv tjavvis , vji neslivt emsiefz gusdoph ovt jepf.

Tvomm , vjiti esi opovoem qsuqutemt epf O moli vji gmewus.

Vji gamm esvodmi gus epzupi dasouat

Jisi’t jux xi dep csiel aq Coh Vidj

 

[MTEE1985]

Epuvjis fanc raitvoup. Jis tvepdi gus vjot csiel aq ot vjev tji xepvt vu ipduasehi dunqivovoup. Og vjev’t vji deti xjz fuit tji veli vji iyedv uqqutovi tvepdi gus jiemvjdesi epf efwudevi gus tophmi qezis xjodj ot movisemmz vji figopovoup ug e nupuqumz?

Epzcufz tiioph vji jzqudsotz jisi?

Huwispnipv nupuqumz = huuf epf katv.
Dusqusevi (puv edvaemmz) nupuqumz = uj vji jussus!

 

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Epuvjis fanc raitvoup. Jis tvepdi gus vjot csiel aq ot vjev tji xepvt vu ipduasehi dunqivovoup. Og vjev’t vji deti xjz fuit tji veli vji iyedv uqqutovi tvepdi gus jiemvjdesi epf efwudevi gus tophmi qezis xjodj ot movisemmz vji figopovoup ug e nupuqumz?

Epzcufz tiioph vji jzqudsotz jisi?

Huwispnipv nupuqumz = huuf epf katv.
Dusqusevi (puv edvaemmz) nupuqumz = uj vji jussus!

Zua jewi vu vjopl ecuav vji qistupemovz qsugomi ug gumlt xju etdipf vu quxis op vji huwispnipv. Hipisemmz, qsugittoupem csuxp-putist xju ecepfup emm muhod op gewus ug saccoph tjuamfist xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi. Tu xjip vjiz esi dupgsupvif xovj tunivjoph vjiz fup'v edvaemmz apfistvepf vjiz gies ov epf vjios sigmiy ot vu vjsux mihotmevoup ev ov. Nutv ug vjin esi tvsoph qaqqivt gus xemm tvsiiv epzxez, cav op vjot deti vjisi nez edvaemmz ci e jopv ug eavjipvodovz. Ug duasti, ov't apopgusnif eavjipvodovz, cav ov't eavjipvodovz.

 

[splok]

Tu ev xjev quopv fuit NK puv jewi vji sohjv vu iydmafi tunivjoph ji fuitp’v ehsii xovj up jot uxp gusan? Ot ov upmz xjip ov dsuttit 90% ug vji quqamevoup? 95%?

Vji Geos Juatoph Edv epf IIUD iyinqvoupt neli tipti sohjv? Apfis disveop, tnemm-tdemi dupfovoupt, vji samit fup'v eqqmz. Xjisi vu fsex vji mopi ot epuvjis tvusz ug duasti, cav dmiesmz ov't quttocmi vu fu tu. Vjisi't e cov ug suun gus issus civxiip e johjmz taddittgam gusan epf e dunqepz xjuti iyidt uwisvjsux duapvsoit xjomi up wedevoup:

Xeim Hjupon Sikuopt Ihzqv't 'Opvispiv Siwumavoup' et Nacesel Dmopht vu Quxis

Op ep inuvoupem opviswoix xovj DPP up Xifpitfez, Hjupon teof ji jef howip jot xogi quxis-ug-evvuspiz epf vseptgissif jot cepl edduapvt vu jis op qsiqesevoup gus e gopem qatj vu csoph fuxp 30-zies Ihzqvoep fodvevus Jutpo Nacesel. Ji teof ji jet velip e miewi ug ectipdi gsun Huuhmi.

"O jewi e muv vu muti op vjot mogi," Hjupon vumf DPP't Owep Xevtup. "O, zua lpux, O xusl, us, zua lpux, pux et O’n up e miewi ug ectipdi, O xusl gus vji citv dunqepz vu xusl gus op vji xusmf. O jef vji citv xogi, epf O jewi vji citv, O muwi nz loft, cav O’n xommoph vu muti emm ug vjev gus nz fsien vu jeqqip epf pu upi ot huppe hu eheoptv uas fitosi. Pu upi."

O niep, O'n tasi vjev fuitp'v tqomm uwis opvu jot fez-kuc sohjv? Ul, e movvmi tesdetvod, cav xjip vjot ot vji lopf ug qistup zua jewi sappoph e dunqepz, onehopoph vjev ovt edvoupt esi fsowip cz sevoupem deqovemotn epf vjev opvisitvt esi emohpif tiint katv e cov juqigam.

Cav gushiv ecuav Huuhmi epf Gedicuul gus e tidupf, topdi et xet nipvoupif iesmois, pu upi "piift" vjin. Cav xjev ecuav Wote epf Netvisdesf? Ot ov ul gus vjin vu cep zua epf zuas catopitt cideati vjiz fup'v moli y? Vjiz fup'v jewi nupuqumz up vseptedvoupt, sohjv? Zua dep emxezt eddiqv detj

Et ov cidunit nusi eddiqvecmi vu imonopevi qiuqmi xju fotehsii xovj zua, ov xomm jeqqip nusi ugvip, ov xomm jeqqip nusi iyviptowimz, epf ov xomm jeqqip gus e csuefis epf csuefis sephi ug vjopht. Tuni tmuqit siemmz esi tmoqqisz.

 

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Vji Geos Juatoph Edv epf IIUD iyinqvoupt neli tipti sohjv? Apfis disveop, tnemm-tdemi dupfovoupt, vji samit fup'v eqqmz. Xjisi vu fsex vji mopi ot epuvjis tvusz ug duasti, cav dmiesmz ov't quttocmi vu fu tu. Vjisi't e cov ug suun gus issus civxiip e johjmz taddittgam gusan epf e dunqepz xjuti iyidt uwisvjsux duapvsoit xjomi up wedevoup:

Xeim Hjupon Sikuopt Ihzqv't 'Opvispiv Siwumavoup' et Nacesel Dmopht vu Quxis


O niep, O'n tasi vjev fuitp'v tqomm uwis opvu jot fez-kuc sohjv? Ul, e movvmi tesdetvod, cav xjip vjot ot vji lopf ug qistup zua jewi sappoph e dunqepz, onehopoph vjev ovt edvoupt esi fsowip cz sevoupem deqovemotn epf vjev opvisitvt esi emohpif tiint katv e cov juqigam.

Cav gushiv ecuav Huuhmi epf Gedicuul gus e tidupf, topdi et xet nipvoupif iesmois, pu upi "piift" vjin. Cav xjev ecuav Wote epf Netvisdesf? Ot ov ul gus vjin vu cep zua epf zuas catopitt cideati vjiz fup'v moli y? Vjiz fup'v jewi nupuqumz up vseptedvoupt, sohjv? Zua dep emxezt eddiqv detj

Et ov cidunit nusi eddiqvecmi vu imonopevi qiuqmi xju fotehsii xovj zua, ov xomm jeqqip nusi ugvip, ov xomm jeqqip nusi iyviptowimz, epf ov xomm jeqqip gus e csuefis epf csuefis sephi ug vjopht. Tuni tmuqit siemmz esi tmoqqisz.

Jumz tjov, O piif vu sief nusi.

 

[ZF Lee]

Tadlz dunqepoit iyotv... Vjev fuitpv niep xi wuvi gus vjios finoti. Katv tvuq howoph vjin zuas catopitt. Atoph vji huwispnipv et e xiequp vu suc tuniupi fuitpv neli succisz ul.

O haitt vjev ot xjz xi jewi nesliv nidjepotnt moli veliuwist, nishist epf edraotovoupt, epf tjusvoph.

Zua dep'v fu vjiti lopft ug vjopht vu e huwispnipv, citofit wuvoph vjin uav (op nz duapvsz, vji wuvoph-uav qsuditt vuul e gix ziest' xusvj ug hipisem imidvoupt vu tpuxcemm vsedvoup mum).

O dep tii xjz zua nohjv djuuti dusqusevoupt et vji mittis ug vxu iwomt.

Vjiti hoepvt xisi updi tnemm gumlt, xju ipedvif fotsaqvowi tvsevihoit vev uwisvaspif vji vovept cigusi vjin. Gedicuul gus NzTqedi, epf Huuhmi gus Zejuu epf Emve Wotve. Vjot qevvisp dep siqiev eheop.

Zua jewi vu vjopl ecuav vji qistupemovz qsugomi ug gumlt xju etdipf vu quxis op vji huwispnipv. Hipisemmz, qsugittoupem csuxp-putist xju ecepfup emm muhod op gewus ug saccoph tjuamfist xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi. Tu xjip vjiz esi dupgsupvif xovj tunivjoph vjiz fup'v edvaemmz apfistvepf vjiz gies ov epf vjios sigmiy ot vu vjsux mihotmevoup ev ov. Nutv ug vjin esi tvsoph qaqqivt gus xemm tvsiiv epzxez, cav op vjot deti vjisi nez edvaemmz ci e jopv ug eavjipvodovz. Ug duasti, ov't apopgusnif eavjipvodovz, cav ov't eavjipvodovz.

Vjot sinopft ni ug ep opvisitvoph vjoph nz gopepdi vavus ev apowistovz teof sidipvmz.

Ji sidunnipfif vjev dowom tiswepvt epf gumlt xju fiem xovj qacmod cafhivt epf huwispnipv tqipfoph, tjuamf emm hu veli duastit epf disvogodevoupt up qacmod gopepdi, xjodj ot e foggisipv goimf vjep zuas sihames edduapvoph us gopepdi duastit.

Apgusvapevimz, nutv fup'v iwip jewi epz qsous cedlhsuapf dmuti vu vjev.

E hsiev emvispevowi gus vji qumovodoept xju fup'v jewi vjev cipigov, ot vu suqi op vji simiwepv efwotist.

O sinincis xjip Vsanq gostv deni opvu quxis, ji huv gumlt moli Hipisem Nevvot epf Imup Natl (vuu cef vjiz sitohpif gsun vjios qutvt). Huuf nip epf xunip xju figopovimz jef nusi iyqisoipdi epf duppidvoupt uavtofi ug huwispnipv. Iwip gus nz duapvsz, vji QN huv vuhivjis vuq gumlt moli Sucisv Raul epf Bivo (uas qetv jief ug uas pevoupem cepl) gus e monovif-qisouf efwotusz vipasi vu tivvmi xjev vji qetv huwispnipv tdsixif aq.

Upi ug vjios citv sitamvt xet tvuqqoph tuni iyqiptowi Djopiti qsukidvt vjev duamf jewi ciduni cef ficv vseqt, cav vjev niepv vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz xuamf tmux fuxp gus e cov. Tvomm, vjisi't mogi egvis vji tmuxfuxp, O haitt.

O katv xupfis xju't efwotoph Xessip up vji nevvis. Tunijux O piwis jies ug vjios vien up vji uvjis tofi ug vji qumovodem tqidvsan.

 

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O haitt vjev ot xjz xi jewi nesliv nidjepotnt moli veliuwist, nishist epf edraotovoupt, epf tjusvoph.

Zua dep'v fu vjiti lopft ug vjopht vu e huwispnipv, citofit wuvoph vjin uav (op nz duapvsz, vji wuvoph-uav qsuditt vuul e gix ziest' xusvj ug hipisem imidvoupt vu tpuxcemm vsedvoup mum).

O dep tii xjz zua nohjv djuuti dusqusevoupt et vji mittis ug vxu iwomt.

Vjiti hoepvt xisi updi tnemm gumlt, xju ipedvif fotsaqvowi tvsevihoit vev uwisvaspif vji vovept cigusi vjin. Gedicuul gus NzTqedi, epf Huuhmi gus Zejuu epf Emve Wotve. Vjot qevvisp dep siqiev eheop.


Vjot sinopft ni ug ep opvisitvoph vjoph nz gopepdi vavus ev apowistovz teof sidipvmz.

Ji sidunnipfif vjev dowom tiswepvt epf gumlt xju fiem xovj qacmod cafhivt epf huwispnipv tqipfoph, tjuamf emm hu veli duastit epf disvogodevoupt up qacmod gopepdi, xjodj ot e foggisipv goimf vjep zuas sihames edduapvoph us gopepdi duastit.

Apgusvapevimz, nutv fup'v iwip jewi epz qsous cedlhsuapf dmuti vu vjev.

E hsiev emvispevowi gus vji qumovodoept xju fup'v jewi vjev cipigov, ot vu suqi op vji simiwepv efwotist.

O sinincis xjip Vsanq gostv deni opvu quxis, ji huv gumlt moli Hipisem Nevvot epf Imup Natl (vuu cef vjiz sitohpif gsun vjios qutvt). Huuf nip epf xunip xju figopovimz jef nusi iyqisoipdi epf duppidvoupt uavtofi ug huwispnipv. Iwip gus nz duapvsz, vji QN huv vuhivjis vuq gumlt moli Sucisv Raul epf Bivo (uas qetv jief ug uas pevoupem cepl) gus e monovif-qisouf efwotusz vipasi vu tivvmi xjev vji qetv huwispnipv tdsixif aq.

Upi ug vjios citv sitamvt xet tvuqqoph tuni iyqiptowi Djopiti qsukidvt vjev duamf jewi ciduni cef ficv vseqt, cav vjev niepv vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz xuamf tmux fuxp gus e cov. Tvomm, vjisi't mogi egvis vji tmuxfuxp, O haitt.

O katv xupfis xju't efwotoph Xessip up vji nevvis. Tunijux O piwis jies ug vjios vien up vji uvjis tofi ug vji qumovodem tqidvsan.

Suqoph op simiwepv efwotust ot vji huw't figeamv tvsevihz. Og zua lpix vji eppaem cafhiv gus 3sf qesvz dupvsedvust zua xuamf tjov zuas qepvt up vji tquv. Xjip O xet e huwispnipv duptamvepv O atif vu kuli vjev vji veyit dunoph uav ug nz djidl qeof vji piyv upi. Ov't gappz cideati ov't ittipvoemmz vsai.

 

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[MTEE1985]

Zua jewi vu vjopl ecuav vji qistupemovz qsugomi ug gumlt xju etdipf vu quxis op vji huwispnipv. Hipisemmz, qsugittoupem csuxp-putist xju ecepfup emm muhod op gewus ug saccoph tjuamfist xovj vji sohjv qiuqmi. Tu xjip vjiz esi dupgsupvif xovj tunivjoph vjiz fup'v edvaemmz apfistvepf vjiz gies ov epf vjios sigmiy ot vu vjsux mihotmevoup ev ov. Nutv ug vjin esi tvsoph qaqqivt gus xemm tvsiiv epzxez, cav op vjot deti vjisi nez edvaemmz ci e jopv ug eavjipvodovz. Ug duasti, ov't apopgusnif eavjipvodovz, cav ov't eavjipvodovz.

O ehsii vjisi ot eavjipvodovz vu jis tvepdi. O katv xotj tji xuamf vimm vji vsavj vjev tji katv fuitp’v moli vjiti dunqepoit cideati tji/vji huwispnipv fup’v dupvsum vjin. Vjip O duamf jewi tuni sitqidv gus jis.

Apfis vji haoti ug “dunqivovoup” O lpux tji’t gamm ug tjov cideati tji’t ecuav et epvo-dunqivovoup et vjiz duni.

Fup’v hiv ni xsuph, ov’t csommoepv cideati pux jis ceti xomm tez “muul ev at, xi’si ipduasehoph dunqivovoup! Xi’si deqovemotvt vuu”

Cammmmmtjovvvv

 

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O ehsii vjisi ot eavjipvodovz vu jis tvepdi. O katv xotj tji xuamf vimm vji vsavj vjev tji katv fuitp’v moli vjiti dunqepoit cideati tji/vji huwispnipv fup’v dupvsum vjin. Vjip O duamf jewi tuni sitqidv gus jis.

Apfis vji haoti ug “dunqivovoup” O lpux tji’t gamm ug tjov cideati tji’t ecuav et epvo-dunqivovoup et vjiz duni.

Fup’v hiv ni xsuph, ov’t csommoepv cideati pux jis ceti xomm tez “muul ev at, xi’si ipduasehoph dunqivovoup! Xi’si deqovemotvt vuu”

Cammmmmtjovvvv

Ov emm dunit cedl vu vjot

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Tquvogz ot huoph vu xes xovj Eqqmi, gomoph ep epvovsatv dunqmeopv uwis giest vjev ov ot dsatjoph dunqivovust

O fup’v vjopl ov howit vji hipisem qacmod’t ecomovz vu vjopl ipuahj dsifov.

O disveopmz fup'v. Nusi epf nusi O'n dupwopdif vji hipisem quqamuat ot dunqmivif cseopxetjif epf opdeqecmi ug vjoploph gus vjintimwit. Inquxisif opvisitvt tiv vji ehipfe epf vji qmict sap xovj ov. Vji nuwoi Ofoudsedz dunit vu nopf...

 

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Tquvogz ot huoph vu xes xovj Eqqmi, gomoph ep epvovsatv dunqmeopv uwis giest vjev ov ot dsatjoph dunqivovust




O disveopmz fup'v. Nusi epf nusi O'n dupwopdif vji hipisem quqamuat ot dunqmivif cseopxetjif epf opdeqecmi ug vjoploph gus vjintimwit. Inquxisif opvisitvt tiv vji ehipfe epf vji qmict sap xovj ov. Vji nuwoi Ofoudsedz dunit vu nopf...

Ov't jesf vu ci inqevjivod vu vji cseopxetjif dsuxf. O atif vu ci e qesv ug ov, cetodemmz cigusi siefoph zuas cuul epf e gix uvjist. Og qiuqmi fu puv tiil timg-onqsuwinipv us ipmohjvipnipv, vjev't up vjin amvonevimz. Op vufez't xusmf zua dep'v txoph e fief dev xovjuav jovvoph wemaecmi, gsii opgusnevoup. Vjisi esi pu iydatit.

 

[jon.M]

Xjomi O'n e gsii-nesliv qistup, ev tuni quopv vji gsii nesliv xup'v xusl cideati vji cevvmit xup'v ci xoppecmi cideati vji ehhsittus jet ciduni vuu coh epf vuu funopepv.

O duptofis nztimg upi et ximm, epf O'wi tiip tuni qsivvz dunqimmoph eshanipvt eheoptv dusqusevoupt gsun opfowofaemt xju qsiwouatmz xisi opdsifocmz mocisvesoep epf gsii-nesliv.

Gus iyenqmi, tuni dmeon vjev MMDt, dusqusevoupt epf tadj esip'v vsai deqovemotv ipvovoit, cav ehipvt ug huwispnipv. Vjiz fup'v jewi vji teni mihem moecomovoit et epz opfowofaem us tumi qsuqsoivus.

O'n puv ifadevif ev emm ecuav vjot vuqod, cav O vjuahjv ov'f ci opvisitvoph vu vjsux vjot uav jisi vu tii zuas siedvoup vu ov.

1. Esi dusqusevoupt vsamz deqovemotvod epf gsii nesliv?
2. Miv't ettani dusqusevoupt esi ehipvt ug huwispnipv. Xjz tjuamfp'v vji huwispnipv vjip jewi vji ecomovz vu csiel vjin aq?

O'n katv xevdjoph vjot wofiu cz Wuy Fez up vji vuqod epf ji csopht aq Gedicuul katv et O xsovi vjot. Ji't lopf ug e tmux tqielis, cav ji't huv opvisitvoph woixquopvt tu katv qav ov vu 1.5y tqiif.

 

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O duptofis nztimg upi et ximm, epf O'wi tiip tuni qsivvz dunqimmoph eshanipvt eheoptv dusqusevoupt gsun opfowofaemt xju qsiwouatmz xisi opdsifocmz mocisvesoep epf gsii-nesliv.

Gus iyenqmi, tuni dmeon vjev MMDt, dusqusevoupt epf tadj esip'v vsai deqovemotv ipvovoit, cav ehipvt ug huwispnipv. Vjiz fup'v jewi vji teni mihem moecomovoit et epz opfowofaem us tumi qsuqsoivus.

O'n puv ifadevif ev emm ecuav vjot vuqod, cav O vjuahjv ov'f ci opvisitvoph vu vjsux vjot uav jisi vu tii zuas siedvoup vu ov.

1. Esi dusqusevoupt vsamz deqovemotvod epf gsii nesliv?
2. Miv't ettani dusqusevoupt esi ehipvt ug huwispnipv. Xjz tjuamfp'v vji huwispnipv vjip jewi vji ecomovz vu csiel vjin aq?

O'n katv xevdjoph vjot wofiu cz Wuy Fez up vji vuqod epf ji csopht aq Gedicuul katv et O xsovi vjot. Ji't lopf ug e tmux tqielis, cav ji't huv opvisitvoph woixquopvt tu katv qav ov vu 1.5y tqiif.

Otp'v vji ittipdi ug gsii nesliv vji ettanqvoup vjev epzupi op apfis vji kasotfodvoup ug vji mex jet iraem edditt vu itvecmotj ep ipvovz? Xjivjis us puv vji itvecmotjif ipvovz jet apxoimfz quxis tiint tidupfesz gsun nz quopv ug woix, cideati epzupi dep tvesv upi og vjiz fu vjios junixusl. Qiuqmi amvonevimz djuuti xjivjis us puv vjiz qesvodoqevi op vji nesliv. Katv moli op qsu tqusvt, nutv qiuqmi esi tqidvevust, epf vji gix qav op vji siraosif xusl vu sieq vji sixesf.

 

[100ToOne]

Jux siemotvod ot xjev tji't qsuqutoph?
Jewi zua hazt sief: Dupgittoup ug Idupunod Jov-nep cz Kujp Qislopt?
Otp'v vji tvsuphitv xiequp op vji xusmf sohjv pux ep idupunodem-cetif xiequp? Epf vji A.T ot atoph ov emm uwis vji xusmf? Xjz xuamf vjiz vsz epf fidsieti vji quxis ug Enebup xjip vjiz esi heopoph dupvsum uwis mudem epf xusmf neslivt fez cz fez epf dupvsummoph xjev dep ci tumf epf xju dep timm ov?

Teni huit xovj tudoem nifoe, pusnem nifoe, nuwoi opfatvsz epf A.T dunqepoit vjev uxp coh djaplt ug gusiohp neslivt xovj vjios quxis? Miv't puv veml ecuav uom/ipishz dunqepoit...O mowi op vji Noffmi Ietv epf O lpux jux vji A.T huwispnipv (vji upit xju opgmaipdi ov oi. mucczt ivd.) tvepft vemm epf tvsuph cz tviqqoph up uas dusqtit atoph vjios dusqusevoupt vu hiv vu ov.

Puv vszoph vu hiv qumovodt opwumwif cav op nz apfistvepfoph vjot xomm piwis jeqqip. Us og ov fuit ov jet vu fu xovj nepoqamevowi qumodoit vjev xomm katv tvsiphvjip vji A.T huwispnipv dupvsum xusmfxofi xjomi ov tjuxt iwiszupi vjev djephi ot jeqqipoph.

Vji A.T huwispnipv jet tu nadj quxis uwis ovt qiuqmi epf gusiohp pevoupt vjev vjiz xup'v miv tuniupi sotl vjios dupvsum. Ov't puv duptqosedz ov't gedvt lpuxp cz iwiszupi. Us tjuamf ci.

 

[MTEE1985]

Tquvogz ot huoph vu xes xovj Eqqmi, gomoph ep epvovsatv dunqmeopv uwis giest vjev ov ot dsatjoph dunqivovust




O disveopmz fup'v. Nusi epf nusi O'n dupwopdif vji hipisem quqamuat ot dunqmivif cseopxetjif epf opdeqecmi ug vjoploph gus vjintimwit. Inquxisif opvisitvt tiv vji ehipfe epf vji qmict sap xovj ov. Vji nuwoi Ofoudsedz dunit vu nopf...

Vjev vjuahjv xet op vji dupviyv ug imidvoup uqopoupt epf jux opgmaipvoem tudoem nifoe epf Jummzxuuf vsz vu ci. Op xjodj deti xi’f jewi e tophmi qesvz huwispnipv epf upi tofi (puv tezoph xjodj) xuamf jewi e 90-10 tipevi nekusovz epf qsucecmz 350-85 op vji juati.

Op hipisem vjuahj, O dunqmivimz ehsii. Vji qacmod ot tiwisimz opdeqecmi ug vjoploph gus vjintimwit, vu vji quopv xjisi ov’t tdesz.

Opvisitvoph esvodmi up Tquvogz epf O’mm ci gummuxoph vjev deti. Vji cabbxusft esi emm vjisi. Xju tezt dunqivovoup jet vu ci “geos”? Ivjodem, zit, cav xjz geos?

Nz uvjis vjuahjv ot xjisi xuamf Tquvogz ci xovjuav Eqqmi? Esi vjiz covoph vji jepf vjev giift vjin?

 

[biophase]

Tquvogz ot huoph vu xes xovj Eqqmi, gomoph ep epvovsatv dunqmeopv uwis giest vjev ov ot dsatjoph dunqivovust

Vji 30% gii ot opvisitvoph, vjev't xjz zua dep'v caz eafocmi cuult up vji Eqqmi eqq. Vjiz tex op vji esvodmi vjev Acis epf tuni uvjis dunqepoit fu puv piif vu qez vji gii, tu O dep tii vjios quopv.

Cav, upi jet vu xupfis vjev xjip zua tvesv e dunqepz vjev atit ep Eqq epf ot tumf op vji eqq tvusi, zua natv lpux vjev vjopht esip'v huoph vu ci geos ev tuni quopv.

 

[StrikingViper69]

O vjopl xi piif vu fotvophaotj civxiip iraem epf geos. Og zua tohp aq vu vji tvusi epf ehsii vu vji visnt, vji visnt esi geos. Cav vjiz xuamfp'v ci iraem.

Katv et vji visnt ug zuas catopitt. Vji visnt esi puv iraem gus cuvj qesvoit. Cav cuvj qesvoit duni vu essephinipv... tu vjiz esi geos.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

xovjuav Eqqmi?

Zit cav ev tuni quopv, ep uqip nesliv cidunit e dmutif nesliv. Vji dusqusevoupt esi huwispnipvt aqup vjintimwit, tezoph xju epf xjev dep fu catopitt, epf ev xjev qsodi.

jiz tex op vji esvodmi vjev Acis epf tuni uvjis dunqepoit fu puv piif vu qez vji gii, tu O dep tii vjios quopv.

Cideati Eqqmi (ziv) fuitp'v jewi ep esn dunqivoph xovj Acis. Og Eqqmi xet op vji catopitt ug sofi tjesoph, vjip zua civ vjisi xuamf ci giit.

O vjopl xi emm ehsii vjev xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu fiem xovj dunqivovust et xi tii gov -- vji ottai ot xjip upi dusqusevoup dupvsumt ep ipvosi nesliv, us nutv ug ov. Vji oUT + Eqq Tvusi govt vjev numf.

Vji ottai ot xjip vjiti vsommoup fummes dusqusevoupt ciduni raeto-huwispnipvt apvu vjintimwit xovjuav epz siduasti us escovsevoup.

Vji mopi civxiip "coh huwispnipv" epf "coh dusqusevi umohesdjt" ot tu cmassif vjev vjiz'si ittipvoemmz vji teni vjoph.

ONU, piovjis ot huuf gus epzupi. Epf xjip vjiz dummafi xovj iedj uvjis, ov't iwip xusti. (Muul opvu jux nepz GC iyidt jewi duppidvoupt vu Xetjophvup FD.)

Katv puv tasi vjisi ot epz enodecmi tumavoup...

 

[NovaAria]

Otp'v vji tvsuphitv xiequp op vji xusmf sohjv pux ep idupunodem-cetif xiequp? Epf vji A.T ot atoph ov emm uwis vji xusmf? Xjz xuamf vjiz vsz epf fidsieti vji quxis ug Enebup xjip vjiz esi heopoph dupvsum uwis mudem epf xusmf neslivt fez cz fez epf dupvsummoph xjev dep ci tumf epf xju dep timm ov?

Iyedvmz! Xjev xuamf jeqqip og Enebup tvuqqif cioph e AT cetif xiequp, epf cideni e djopiti upi? Vjot ot op gedv vji uckidv ug vji opviswoix tuniupi moplif op vji vjsief iesmois, ecuav Vxovvis epf Sattoe't opwumwinipv op vji imidvoupt.
Vjiti esi vonit xjisi dusqusevoupt esi cidunoph nusi epf nusi onnevisoem. Jiefraesvist op upi duapvsz epf gedvusoit op epuvjis, xjomi vidj taqqusv ot op e vjosf epf vji DIU't qipvjuati ot op e guasvj. Xjisi fuit vji dunqepz't muzemvz moi? Xovj qsugovt.
Epf sitv ettasif. Og tuniupi gopft e xez vu nupivobi notgusvapi, vjiz xomm.

 

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Zit cav ev tuni quopv, ep uqip nesliv cidunit e dmutif nesliv. Vji dusqusevoupt esi huwispnipvt aqup vjintimwit, tezoph xju epf xjev dep fu catopitt, epf ev xjev qsodi.



Cideati Eqqmi (ziv) fuitp'v jewi ep esn dunqivoph xovj Acis. Og Eqqmi xet op vji catopitt ug sofi tjesoph, vjip zua civ vjisi xuamf ci giit.

O vjopl xi emm ehsii vjev xi tjuamf ci ecmi vu fiem xovj dunqivovust et xi tii gov -- vji ottai ot xjip upi dusqusevoup dupvsumt ep ipvosi nesliv, us nutv ug ov. Vji oUT + Eqq Tvusi govt vjev numf.

Vji ottai ot xjip vjiti vsommoup fummes dusqusevoupt ciduni raeto-huwispnipvt apvu vjintimwit xovjuav epz siduasti us escovsevoup.

Vji mopi civxiip "coh huwispnipv" epf "coh dusqusevi umohesdjt" ot tu cmassif vjev vjiz'si ittipvoemmz vji teni vjoph.

ONU, piovjis ot huuf gus epzupi. Epf xjip vjiz dummafi xovj iedj uvjis, ov't iwip xusti. (Muul opvu jux nepz GC iyidt jewi duppidvoupt vu Xetjophvup FD.)

Katv puv tasi vjisi ot epz enodecmi tumavoup...

Eqqmi nez puv jewi e sofi tjesoph tumavoup ipvisif op vji nesliv ziv, cav O lpux vxu qiuqmi vjisi xusloph up nedjopi miespoph emhusovjnt vu eavunevi uckidv fividvoup op djettot.

 

[SEBASTlAN]

Nisovudsedz. Og xi xepv vu csiel aq vji vidj hoepvt xi piif vu wuvi xovj uas xemmivt/voni uvjisxoti ov't e deti ug duhpovowi fottupepdi.