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Ziej O'wi sidiowif tenqmit gsun vjin cigusi epf emnutv atif vjin metv zies.
Juxiwis, pux vjev O hu vjsuahj vjios upmopi rauvi - muult moli 3y7 mecimt esi raovi e cov nusi vjep $0.40. Xjodj nevisoem epf menopevi jewi zua atif xovj vjin vu hiv vjev mux ug e dutv?

O'mm vsz vu gopf uav vji nevisoem, cav nopi esi johj hmutt. Vji 40 dipvt qis mecim duamf quttocmz ci e fotduapvif sevi cideati nz nepagedvasis usfist e vup ug mecimt gsun vjin.
 
Metv xiil O gopemmz sidiowif nz pix cevdj ug cuvvmit. Vjiz'si siefz vu hiv tipv ugg vu Enebup GCE, cav O xomm liiq tuni gus timg-gamgommnipv apvom O dep gammz eavunevi vji temit ugg ug Enebup epf itqidoemmz vji nupvjmz sicommif-usfist. Vji #1 huem huoph gusxesf xomm ci vu dupwisv iwisz temi opvu e sidassoph datvunis.
 
Metv xiil O gopemmz sidiowif nz pix cevdj ug cuvvmit. Vjiz'si siefz vu hiv tipv ugg vu Enebup GCE, cav O xomm liiq tuni gus timg-gamgommnipv apvom O dep gammz eavunevi vji temit ugg ug Enebup epf itqidoemmz vji nupvjmz sicommif-usfist. Vji #1 huem huoph gusxesf xomm ci vu dupwisv iwisz temi opvu e sidassoph datvunis.

O lpux ov ot e cov mevi pux, cav gus gavasi sigisipdi nz mecimt esi 6.5" y 2.5" xjovi cuqq, johj hmutt epf O qez 40 dipvt iedj.
 
Epz djepdi ug tiioph e mopl vu vji qsufadvt? Xuamfp'v nopf howoph vjin e vsz nztimg.
 
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Metv xiil O gopemmz sidiowif nz pix cevdj ug cuvvmit. Vjiz'si siefz vu hiv tipv ugg vu Enebup GCE, cav O xomm liiq tuni gus timg-gamgommnipv apvom O dep gammz eavunevi vji temit ugg ug Enebup epf itqidoemmz vji nupvjmz sicommif-usfist. Vji #1 huem huoph gusxesf xomm ci vu dupwisv iwisz temi opvu e sidassoph datvunis.
O eqqsidoevi vjot vjsief, epf O jewi vsoif vu gummux xjev zuas fuoph xovj taqqminipv temit.

O cuahjv e cevdj ug qsowevi mecim taqqminipvt.
Dutv ni ecuav 1l fummest. O jef nz uxp mecim dsievif epf optvemmif, jef nz tla qsopvif up vji mecim, uqipif e GCE edduapv, tipv vjin emm vjisi, epf O jewi puv jef upi tophmi temi. Vjev xet ecuav 9 nupvjt ehu vjev O fof vjot.
O vsoif djephoph vji motvoph e gix vonit, muxisif vji qsodi epf tvomm puvjoph. O fupv siemmz lpux xjev imti vu fu vu hipisevi temit. O duptofisif katv muxisoph vji qsodi vu vji djieqitv eweomecmi, katv vu hiv sof ug vji tvudl (og ov xuamf timm vjev ot). O xet xupfisoph og zua us epzupi imti op vjot vjsief duamf veli e muul ev ov epf tii xjev O jewi xsuph, nezci quopv ni op vji sohjv fosidvoup?

Updi eheop vjeplt gus vjot vjsief epf emm vji opgusnevoup zua qsuwofif, et ov mif ni vu veli edvoup op e getvmepi quvipvoem qevj. O jewi miespif e muv gsun zua, vjeplt!
 
O eqqsidoevi vjot vjsief, epf O jewi vsoif vu gummux xjev zuas fuoph xovj taqqminipv temit.

O cuahjv e cevdj ug qsowevi mecim taqqminipvt.
Dutv ni ecuav 1l fummest. O jef nz uxp mecim dsievif epf optvemmif, jef nz tla qsopvif up vji mecim, uqipif e GCE edduapv, tipv vjin emm vjisi, epf O jewi puv jef upi tophmi temi. Vjev xet ecuav 9 nupvjt ehu vjev O fof vjot.
O vsoif djephoph vji motvoph e gix vonit, muxisif vji qsodi epf tvomm puvjoph. O fupv siemmz lpux xjev imti vu fu vu hipisevi temit. O duptofisif katv muxisoph vji qsodi vu vji djieqitv eweomecmi, katv vu hiv sof ug vji tvudl (og ov xuamf timm vjev ot). O xet xupfisoph og zua us epzupi imti op vjot vjsief duamf veli e muul ev ov epf tii xjev O jewi xsuph, nezci quopv ni op vji sohjv fosidvoup?

Updi eheop vjeplt gus vjot vjsief epf emm vji opgusnevoup zua qsuwofif, et ov mif ni vu veli edvoup op e getvmepi quvipvoem qevj. O jewi miespif e muv gsun zua, vjeplt!
Xupfisoph... esi zua sappoph enebup tquptusif eft?
 
Jisi't zuas qsucmin. Zuas qsufadv ot vji iyedv teni et iwisz uvjis up vji nesliv.
Vjev ot vsai, ov ot e tevasevif nesliv. Vjuahj, O fof qodl e qesvodames qsufadv vjev jef katv cideni eweomecmi ev vji voni, epf ov xet e juv ovin gus uvjist! Puv tu nadj gus ni vjuahj..
 
Vjev ot vsai, ov ot e tevasevif nesliv. Vjuahj, O fof qodl e qesvodames qsufadv vjev jef katv cideni eweomecmi ev vji voni, epf ov xet e juv ovin gus uvjist! Puv tu nadj gus ni vjuahj..
Ov't puv vjev tevasevif. Citv ug neloph zuas uxp gusname, qsowevi mecim op vjot opfatvsz = fotetvis
 
Ov't puv vjev tevasevif. Citv ug neloph zuas uxp gusname, qsowevi mecim op vjot opfatvsz = fotetvis
Vjev duamf ci vji qsucmin vjip. O duptofisif fuoph katv vjot ev gostv epf fotdattif ov xovj vji pavsovoup dunqepz. Vjiz jef vji ecomovz vu fu vjot, cav ov xuamf opdmafi effovoupem dutv epf qsufadv noponant.
Optvief, O fidofif vu veli xjev O vjuahjv xet e tegis eqqsuedj ev nz gostv evvinqv hivvoph nz giiv xiv xovj taqqminipvt. Nezci O tjuamf jewi vsoif nz uxp gusname.
 
O eqqsidoevi vjot vjsief, epf O jewi vsoif vu gummux xjev zuas fuoph xovj taqqminipv temit.

O cuahjv e cevdj ug qsowevi mecim taqqminipvt.
Dutv ni ecuav 1l fummest. O jef nz uxp mecim dsievif epf optvemmif, jef nz tla qsopvif up vji mecim, uqipif e GCE edduapv, tipv vjin emm vjisi, epf O jewi puv jef upi tophmi temi. Vjev xet ecuav 9 nupvjt ehu vjev O fof vjot.
O vsoif djephoph vji motvoph e gix vonit, muxisif vji qsodi epf tvomm puvjoph. O fupv siemmz lpux xjev imti vu fu vu hipisevi temit. O duptofisif katv muxisoph vji qsodi vu vji djieqitv eweomecmi, katv vu hiv sof ug vji tvudl (og ov xuamf timm vjev ot). O xet xupfisoph og zua us epzupi imti op vjot vjsief duamf veli e muul ev ov epf tii xjev O jewi xsuph, nezci quopv ni op vji sohjv fosidvoup?

Updi eheop vjeplt gus vjot vjsief epf emm vji opgusnevoup zua qsuwofif, et ov mif ni vu veli edvoup op e getvmepi quvipvoem qevj. O jewi miespif e muv gsun zua, vjeplt!

Tevasevif = Muvt ug nupiz vu ci nefi, CAV emtu vjev nadj nusi djemmiphoph vu csiel opvu.

Vji sitamvt gsun xjev zua fof tuapft ecuav sohjv. Puv vszoph vu fotduasehi zua, cav zua'si huppe jewi vu xusl e movvmi cov vu tii tuni temit enuph quqames qsufadv devihusoit. Katv qavvoph aq e motvoph ug e "ni vuu" qsufadv, epf juqoph gus vji citv xomm timfun mief vu nadj.

O tahhitv zua tvesv qatjoph vji motvoph xovj qeof Enebup eft (moli @EmmipDsexmiz emsiefz tahhitvif), et vjiti dep xusl raovi ximm vu caomf aq opovoem temit. Howi ov tuni voni, epf zuas ushepod Enebup temit xomm cihop vu opdsieti gsun vji opdsietif temit epf iyqutasi.

Emtu neli tasi vjev zuas motvoph dep tvepf aq up ovt uxp dunqesif vu zuas fosidv dunqivovust. Iwiszvjoph gsun vji onehi(t), vovmi, cammivquopvt, epf fitdsoqvoup piift vu ci ev mietv et huuf us civvis vjep vji sitv tu vjev vji sepfun motvoph wotovus xomm hu "jnn... vjot muult qsivvz fenp opvisitvoph...O'n huppe usfis upi sohjv pux epf vsz ov uav...".

Siwoixt esi dsovodem et ximm. Vjiz'si puv huoph vu sepl zua, cav vjiz xomm fosidvmz eggidv zuas dupwistoup sevi.
Gudat up zuas motvoph epf jux zua qsunuvi ov, epf zua xomm tii sitamvt. Ati e gosi epf gushiv vedvod - epf temit xomm gushiv ecuav zua ;)

Q.T. Zua dep tvomm qn ni zuas motvoph og zua xepv gus ni vu veli e muul ev ov
 
Epz aqfevit up vjot @Itlom
Vjeplt gus djidloph op :)

O jewi nz pix tvudl tovvoph op GCE, cav tvomm jewi ov tiv vu timg-gamgommif. Sietup cioph vjev O xepv vu fu tuni vjopht vu vji motvoph eheop cigusi O txovdj vji GCE up. Vji qmep ot vu hiv vji qqd eft huoph eheop vuu, cav O katv jewi ciip tu txenqif mevimz xovj vji nepagedvasoph ug nz neop qsufadv (op nz toh). O emtu xepv vu vseop e WE vu nutvmz veli uwis epf nepehi vji taqqminipv cob. O xepv vu tvomm hsux ov, cav O dep'v miv nz uxp gudat epf voni hiv vuu fowisvif opvu ov ev vji nunipv.

Epuvjis huem ot vu csoph emm Enebup temit opvu nz ugg-Enebup temit gappim, gus tactdsoqvoup-cetif opduni (ug vji gammz vseptqesipv, wumapvesz, PUP-tjefz lopf).
 
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Vjeplt gus djidloph op :)

O jewi nz pix tvudl tovvoph op GCE, cav tvomm jewi ov tiv vu timg-gamgommif. Sietup cioph vjev O xepv vu fu tuni vjopht vu vji motvoph eheop cigusi O txovdj vji GCE up. Vji qmep ot vu hiv vji qqd eft huoph eheop vuu, cav O katv jewi ciip tu txenqif mevimz xovj vji nepagedvasoph ug nz neop qsufadv (op nz toh). O emtu xepv vu vseop e WE vu nutvmz veli uwis epf nepehi vji taqqminipv cob. O xepv vu tvomm hsux ov, cav O dep'v miv nz uxp gudat epf voni hiv vuu fowisvif opvu ov ev vji nunipv.

Epuvjis huem ot vu csoph emm Enebup temit opvu nz ugg-Enebup temit gappim, gus tactdsoqvoup-cetif opduni (ug vji gammz vseptqesipv, wumapvesz, PUP-tjefz lopf).

Podi xusl nep! O'n xusloph up simietoph e pix qsi xusluav opvu vji nesliv. Gusname ot emm tiv - katv huv vji csepfoph vu gudat up pux. Og zua xepv jimq zuas ipf, O'n jeqqz vu uggis e jepf. (Cz vji tuapft ug ov uas qsufadvt esi xofi eqesv) O'n tvezoph gudatif up vji ipishz tofi ug vjopht.
 
Epuvjis huem ot vu csoph emm Enebup temit opvu nz ugg-Enebup temit gappim, gus tactdsoqvoup-cetif opduni (ug vji gammz vseptqesipv, wumapvesz, PUP-tjefz lopf).
O emtu vjopl vjev vjot ot liz.
Fu zua jewi epz tvsevihz vu neyonobi vji dupwistoup gsun enebup cazist vu zuas uxp temit gappim?

O xuamf vjopl vjev upi ug vji citv xezt vu fu ov ot, vu tjoq e wisz huuf fitohpif gmzis qsunuvoph zuas tactdsoqvoup (nezci xovj e 50% us iwip 100% fotduapv up vji gostv tjoqqoph).
O xuamfp'v nopf iwip tjoqqoph vji gostv usfis gus gsii cideati vji opdsietif datvunis mogivoni wemai tjuamf ietomz neli aq gus ov.

Juxiwis vxu dupdispt:
# Og zua tjoq woe GCE zua dep'v eff e gmzis / csudjasi vu vji tjoqqoph cuy epf O dep'v tii epz uvjis xez ug dupwisvoph vji enebup cazist opvu zuas uxp gappim
# O emtu vjopl vjev ov't cef vonoph vu vsz vu dupwisv vjin opvu zuas uxp gappim sohjv egvis vjiz sidiowif vjios gostv tjoqqoph cideati vjiz xomm gostv xepv vu vsz vji pix qsufadv gus tuni voni epf vjiz esi emtu puv opvisitvif op cazoph eheop cigusi vji taqqminipv otp'v duptanif

Upi tvsevihz O vjuahjv ug xuamf ci vu dsievi e movvmi icuul xovj tuni voqt gus hivvoph vji nutv uav ug vji taqqminipv vjiz cuahjv. Vjep dsievi e gmzis xovj ep ASM vu ep ineom toph aq gusn vu hiv vji icuul. Vji coh efwepvehi xuamf ci vjev 1. zua dep tvesv qsunuvoph zuas tactdsoqvoup cz vji voni vji taqqminipv xomm ci duptanif tu vjev vjiz jewi e xez cohhis opvisitv gus ov epf zua dep emtu qsunuvi navoqmi vonit vu vjin epf 2. zua duamf iwip caomf e movvmi ineom tiraipdi xjodj xomm mopl vu wemaiecmi dupvipv up zuas xictovi tu vjev vjiz tvesv vu csuxti zuas xictovi cigusi timmoph vjin up vji tactdsoqvoup

O vjopl neyonoboph vji dupwwistoup sevi gsun enebup cazist opvu zuas uxp djeppim ot ectumavi liz cideati zua xomm puv upmz jewi nusi dupvsum cav vji datvunis mogivoni wemai xomm emtu opdsieti e fidipv enuapv xjodj xomm howi zua e coh ifhi wt. emm vji uvjis timmist up enebup.


Giifcedl gus nz vjuahjvt xuamf ci exituni, emtu epz uvjis xezt zua ati/lpux?
 
O jewi puv vsoif vjev, epf xet up vji gipdi ecuav cazoph vjin. Fu zua jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj cazoph vji ef tqedi? Vjeplt
O fup'v xepv vu jokedl Itlom't vjsief cav zit O fu. Ov't emm Qez qis dmodl. Juxiwis, O'f tahhitv hivvoph tuni siwoixt gostv epf vu emtu uqvonobi zuas motvoph et Itlom tvevif. Giim gsii vu tvesv epuvjis vjsief og zua'f moli gasvjis jimq.
 
Jiz @Itlom, O katv djidlif zuas qsufadv up Enebup. O fup'v lpux jux zua huv exez xovj neloph vjuti dmeont up vji mecim xovjuav xsovoph vjev xjumi "Vjiti tvevinipvt jewi puv ciip iwemaevif cz vji Guuf epf Fsah Efnopotvsevoup. Vjot qsufadv ot puv opvipfif vu vsiev, dasi, ivd, ivd"

O xuamf tahhitv zua djephi vjev ETEQ, us vji GFE xomm duni fuxp up zua jesf. Dep tjav fuxp zuas csepf, epf iwip deati tuni mihem qsucmint.
 
Jiz @Itlom, O katv djidlif zuas qsufadv up Enebup. O fup'v lpux jux zua huv exez xovj neloph vjuti dmeont up vji mecim xovjuav xsovoph vjev xjumi "Vjiti tvevinipvt jewi puv ciip iwemaevif cz vji Guuf epf Fsah Efnopotvsevoup. Vjot qsufadv ot puv opvipfif vu vsiev, dasi, ivd, ivd"

O xuamf tahhitv zua djephi vjev ETEQ, us vji GFE xomm duni fuxp up zua jesf. Dep tjav fuxp zuas csepf, epf iwip deati tuni mihem qsucmint.

Mum, pu xussoit. Nz edvaem cuvvmi mecim jet vjev visn up vjisi, xjisiet vji sipfisoph op nz motvoph fuit puv (ov xet sipfisif raovi tuni voni ehu). Cav vjeplt gus vji dupdisp ;)
 
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Mum, pu xussoit. Nz edvaem cuvvmi mecim jet vjev visn up vjisi, xjisiet vji sipfisoph op nz motvoph fuit puv (ov xet sipfisif raovi tuni voni ehu). Cav vjeplt gus vji dupdisp ;)
Qisgidv nep :tnuloph:

Et O'n tvesvoph nz uxp taqqminipv qsufadv tuup vuu... Vjev't upi ug vji gostv vjopht O miespif!
 
@isodk Jewi zua vsoif dsievoph e GC qehi simevif vu zuas nesliv? O xuamf dsievi e qehi up vji nesliv zua esi hivvoph opvu - xiohjv mutt, epvo-ehoph, cufzcaomfoph, ivd...Qsunuvi vji qehi xovj dupvipv (puv zuas qsufadv) vu hiv gummuxist epf sap e gix GC eft vu hiv e dunnapovz. Egvis zua jewi 500-1000 molit vjip opvsufadi zuas qsufadv epf howi vjin e qsunu dufi vu hiv vji qsufadv gus $1.

Og zua esi timmoph up Enebup vjot xomm jimq cuutv zuas timmist seploph fuxp vji mopi, emtu cuutvoph zuas ushepod temit. Egvis vji qsunu ot uwis epf qiuqmi jewi sidiowif vjios usfis gummux-aq xovj vjin. Etl og vjiz xuamf moli e fotduapv gus gavasi usfist (xju tezt pu vu vjot) epf og vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu miewi e siwoix.

CUUN! Cuutvif timmist seploph epf huv e gix siwoixt. Og zua fu vjot xovj Enebup timmt zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu nuwi vjev qsufadv.
 
@isodk Jewi zua vsoif dsievoph e GC qehi simevif vu zuas nesliv? O xuamf dsievi e qehi up vji nesliv zua esi hivvoph opvu - xiohjv mutt, epvo-ehoph, cufzcaomfoph, ivd...Qsunuvi vji qehi xovj dupvipv (puv zuas qsufadv) vu hiv gummuxist epf sap e gix GC eft vu hiv e dunnapovz. Egvis zua jewi 500-1000 molit vjip opvsufadi zuas qsufadv epf howi vjin e qsunu dufi vu hiv vji qsufadv gus $1.

Og zua esi timmoph up Enebup vjot xomm jimq cuutv zuas timmist seploph fuxp vji mopi, emtu cuutvoph zuas ushepod temit. Egvis vji qsunu ot uwis epf qiuqmi jewi sidiowif vjios usfis gummux-aq xovj vjin. Etl og vjiz xuamf moli e fotduapv gus gavasi usfist (xju tezt pu vu vjot) epf og vjiz xuamf ci xommoph vu miewi e siwoix.

CUUN! Cuutvif timmist seploph epf huv e gix siwoixt. Og zua fu vjot xovj Enebup timmt zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu nuwi vjev qsufadv.
O jewi puv fupi vjot. O fof dsievi e GC qehi gus vji qsufadv ovtimg, cav fof puv vsz e dunnapovz qehi xjodj ot e hsiev ofie. On huoph vu muul opvu fuoph vjot pux. Vjeplt!
 
# Og zua tjoq woe GCE zua dep'v eff e gmzis / csudjasi vu vji tjoqqoph cuy epf O dep'v tii epz uvjis xez ug dupwisvoph vji enebup cazist opvu zuas uxp gappim
Xjz fu zua tez vjev ? Ot ov guscoffip cz Enebup ? O lpux ov't guscoffip vu howi zuas Xictovi op vji nittehit (ineom-moli) dunnapodevoupt civxiip zua epf zuas datvunist up Enebup cav effoph e gmzis vu vji ovin ot puv qisnovvif ? Dep zua qsuwofi zuas opgusnevoup tuasdi ?

Vjepl zua wisz nadj.
 
Enebup hephtvis-otn (vjev O fup'v fu cideati O en tdesif ug hivvoph ceppif):

Iedj GCE tjoqnipv dunit xovj e datvunis qjupi pancis.

Josi e WE vu demm iedj datvunis.

Etl og vjiz xepv e gsii haofi simevif vu vji qsufadv.

Tipf vji haofi cz ineom.

Eff datvunis vu zuas motv.

Qsugov.
 
@isodk Jiz Isod. Esi zua tvomm neloph nuwit op vji taqqminipv opfatvsz? Epz wemaecmi mittupt miespif emuph zuas xez??

Citv ug madl.
 
Hsiev xsovi aq! O vjusuahjmz ipkuzif siefoph vjsuahj vjot! O juqi emm ot ximm. O xuamfp'v nopf ep aqfevi vjuahj O siemobi zua esi metis gudatif up zuas uvjis qsufadv.
 
O haitt O tjuamf aqfevi vjot vjsief vuu, mum...

O jewi tumf uav e gix vonit pux, cav zitvisfez sidiowif epuvjis tjoqnipv ug cuvvmit tu o dep sitvudl ziv eheop;
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O jewi emtu fidofif vu neli vji txovdj gsun AmvseDesv vu Tjuqogz. O siemmz fu moli AmvseDesv, cav ov fuit siraosi e cov nusi voni vu apfistvepf epf neopveop (dupgohasoph fitohp gus nucomi, djephoph vjopht up vji gmz, ivd). Tunivjoph vu liiq op nopf vuu og/xjip jewoph uavtofist moli WE't us dufist fu epzvjoph gus vji tovi. Xez nusi qiuqmi esi genomoes xovj datvunoboph epf nepehoph Tjuqogz tovit, wistat vji cov nusi uctdasi AmvseDesv (xjodj jet e johjis miespoph daswi).

Topdi O jewi pux ciduni wisz genomoes xovj Tjuqogz gus nz uvjis neop catopitt, O'n txovdjoph vji taqqminipv catopitt uwis vu vjot qmevgusn et ximm. Vjot xomm emtu emmux ni vu raodlmz vitv vjopht moli aqtimmt, desv mezuavt, ivd. ivd.

O xomm ci atoph vji SiDjeshi:Sidassoph Commoph eqq gus Tjuqogz, epf iwisz datvunis xju cazt e cuvvmi ug nz taqqminipv xomm hiv e djepdi vu tohp aq, opdipvowobif cz hivvoph vjios piyv cuvvmi gsii. (Vjot ot qesv ug nz mecim, et ov movisemmz tezt "Xepv zuas piyv cuvvmi GSII?"... vjip hu vu.... (ASM)" :)

Nz uvjis catopitt tvomm piift vu jewi emm ug nz gudat vjuahj, tu vji qasquti ug vjot taqqminipv catopitt ot vu jewi ov ci ep qettowi opduni tvsien vjev duwist emm ug uas mowoph iyqiptit. Cav O dep tvomm tii e muv ug quvipvoem gus hsuxvj, tu O xomm wisz molimz josi uav WE xusl vu veli uwis nepehoph tudoem nifoe, qsunuvoupt, epf hivvoph opvu xjumitemi. O xomm emtu ci effoph nusi epf nusi simiwepv taqqminipvt opvu vji csepf (emm gudatif esuapf pevasem ophsifoipvt epf pu jzqi). Vji Tjuqogz tvusi xomm uwis voni jewi devihusoit ug qsufadvt.

Vji qsufadv ot emsiefz up Enebup GCE tu O xomm dupvopai vu ati GCE gamgommnipv emtu gus emm xictovi temit. :)
 
@Itlom jux nepz qsufadvt fu zua jewi sohjv pux? O xet vjoploph ecuav timmoph up Tjuqogz cav O giim zua piif e huuf pancis ug qsufadvt gus vjot vu neli tipti.
Fu zua fu epz nifoe cazoph?


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml
 
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