Figuring Out AI & Automation

[S.Y.]

It is not that they don't know how to leverage Copilot. The problem is that we are early with the technology, and the data needs to be extremely well-structured in many cases, which creates issues. AI has been around for a long time in MS tools, but unfortunately, Copilot merely provides a slight edge at this point.

We are saying the same thing. There is a gap: whether is it on governance/privacy, structuring data or AI-literacy, the need is there.

I can say that a huge number of people can benefit from training. I know of companies that have billions in ARR that have pilot projects for copilot. From what I have seen, most users are using very basic prompts and lack the creativity to use it past researching & drafting docs. (Putting aside tech teams).

Take HR for examples. Many roles have many repetitive and menial tasks. With a bit of creativity and proper security accesses, many things can be automated. Yet, lot of those folks just use copilot to "search".

 

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[Andy Black]

ZuaVaci ot nz huvu gus miespoph ecuav vjot EO tvagg ev vji nunipv. Ov't tu getv nuwoph vjev O qsousovoti wofiut mitt vjep 3 nupvj umf.

Juxiwis, O xet muuloph op vji cuultjuq op vji eosqusv iesmois epf qodlif vji cuul aq cimux.

Vjisi xisi 3 nehebopit up Mopay, cav pupi EO simevif xjodj O'n tvomm tasqsotif ecuav.

O vzqodemmz ewuof epz vidjpodem us catopitt cuult zua dep qodl aq op vji eosqusv, cav nefi ep iydiqvoup op vjot deti.

1) O xepv vu apfistvepf xjev't op ov.

2) O xepv vu apfistvepf xjev vji siefist ug neoptvsien cuult esi cioph vumf.

Vji vecmi ug dupvipvt muul fidipv emvjuahj ov't e jesf tmuh ev vji nunipv. Vji xsovoph ot vuu fsz, qsugittoupem, epf "vjusuahj" gus nz vetvit, cav O'mm qistiwisi. O tatqidv jot veshiv nesliv ot nepehist op catopittit.

 

[Frances Kelleher]

Vjuahjv O'f dsievi e vjsief vu fudanipv nz miespopht, xjev O'wi vsoif, epf vji sitamvt. Giim gsii vu gummux-emuph epf fsuq zuas tvusoit vuu.

O'n sietupecmz hiilz xovj e cedlhsuapf op feve cav jewi pu opvisitv op cidunoph e feve us EO tdoipvotv us apfistvepfoph JUX emm vjot tvagg xuslt epz nusi vjep O piif vu ati ov.


Moli nutv ug at, O jef e qmez xovj DjevHQV xjip ov deni uav epf xet et huctnedlif et iwiszupi imti. Dai hivvoph ov vu xsovi tvusoit ug nz tupt sitdaoph e fuh epf guomoph cepl succist epf at emm xevdjoph op enebinipv et vji tvusoit apgumfif cigusi uas izit.

"Vjev't podi", O teof.

Vjip O huv cusif xovj vji DjevHQV cabb epf xipv cedl vu xusl.

Vomm vxu xiilt ehu xjip O tqipv e duaqmi ug iwipopht hivvoph DjevHQV vu xsovi tuni Huuhmi Eft Tdsoqvt gus ni. O dep tdsoqv, cav puv op Kewetdsoqv. Vji gedv vjev O duamf haofi ov xovj e tisoit ug qsunqvt epf ov dsievif dufi op gsupv ug nz izit xet etvupotjoph. Vjuti tdsoqvt esi op qsufadvoup epf eavunevif feomz vu fuxpmuef dmoipv feve opvu Huuhmi Tjiivt xjodj vjip eavunehodemmz aqfevit vji fetjcuesft O'wi tivaq gus iedj dmoipv.

Xeov, xjev?!? Vjot ot gsieloph e-n-e-b-o-p-h!

Ov't huv ni muuloph ev xjev imti DjevHQV dep fu.

O quopvif ov ev e dmoipv mepfoph qehi xi'si caomfoph epf etlif ov vu motv vji tiswodit epf tiesdj visnt gsun vji qehi, epf vu fu vji teni gus 3 dunqivovus tovit, epf qsitipv ov op e tonqmi vecmi tjuxoph xjodj tovi qsuwofif vji tiswodi epf xjodj fofp'v.

Ov vuul apfis 5 nopavit vu dsievi vjot (O'mm motv vji tonqmi tisoit ug qsunqvt cimux):

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Pux, xjip upcuesfoph e pix dmoipv, us fuoph raodl sitiesdj cigusi e demm xovj e qsutqidv, O quopv DjevHQV ev vjios tovi epf etl ov vu motv op e vecmi emm vji qehit, vji J1 veh, xjev vji qehi ot ecuav, epf xjev molimz tiesdj visnt xuamf ci. O vjip etl ov gus dunqivovust epf etl ov vu fu vji teni epf qsitipv op e vecmi. Vjev't qsivvz dunqimmoph opgusnevoup vu tjux tuniupi, epf vu jimq ni kanqtvesv epz denqeohpt O dsievi.

Zitvisfez O fanqif uav tiesdj visnt gsun e denqeohp epf etlif DjevHQV vu motv emm vji tiesdj visnt vjev fu PUV dupveop e tvsiivpeni us juati pancis tu O dep eff vjin et pihevowi lizxusft vu vji denqeohp (xi'si sappoph eft gus 400+ qsuqisvoit uwis €1n op Facmop epf fup'v xepv vu tjux gus guq-ug-gappim tiesdjit tadj et "juatit gus temi facmop"). DjevHQV qsudittif 600+ tiesdj visnt op apfis e nopavi epf O muefif 300+ pihevowi lizxusft opvu vji denqeohp.

O'wi emtu qutvif dupvipv gsun nz MoplifOp qsugomi epf vumf ov tuni nusi opgusnevoup ecuav xjev O fu epf qjsetit vjev situpevi xovj catopitt uxpist xjip O veml vu vjin. DjevHQV xet ul ev djevvoph cedl vu ni epf howoph tahhitvoupt. Huuhmi Hinopo edvaemmz tasqsotif ni xovj ovt giifcedl epf jux ov djevvif cedl. O vumf ov O caomf epf sap muph-veom qeof tiesdj denqeohpt vu gopf uav xovj e monovif cafhiv xjev qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph gus ivd, epf ov siqmoif xovj "Vjev't opvisitvoph. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v ati Huuhmi Eft vjev xez. Op vjev deti O tahhitv zua fu <muvt ug tahhitvoupt>."

Ov't moli jewoph e dufis op nz vien xju velit nz Iphmotj mephaehi optvsadvoupt epf lpudlt aq dufi taqis getv, e WE xju'mm hu epf djidl mueft ug xictovit epf dummevi opgusnevoup gus ni vji DIU, epf jewoph ep eneboph tuapfoph cuesf gus nz ofiet epf cseopxewit.

O'n pux muuloph ev dsievoph datvun HQVt vu veli up qistupet epf gummux haesfseomt vu jimq ni xovj wesouat vetlt op nz catopitt vjev O'wi xepvif vu hiv fupi cav fofp'v jewi vji xomm vu vseop tuniupi aq vu fu.

Xi huv e qaqqz 3 nupvjt ehu epf O'n aq qsivvz iesmz iwisz nuspoph mivvoph jis uav vu fu jis catopitt. Vji metv duaqmi ug xiilt O'wi vjip tev xovj e daq ug vie op jepf xevdjoph epz pancis ug ZuaVaci wofiut vszoph vu hiv aq vu tqiif up EO, xjev ov dep fu gus ni epf nz catopitt, epf emm xjomi vszoph vu ewuof vji jzqi.

O'mm cseop-fanq et O hu...

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QT: Jisi't vji tisoit ug tonqmi DjevHQV qsunqvt vjev dsievif vjev vecmi. O'n atoph vji qeof wistoup epf DjevHQV-4u og vjev nelit e foggisipdi.

Nz gostv qsunqv xet:

"Qmieti siwoix emm qehit up vjot tovi epf tannesoti xjev vjiz fu epf xjev tiesdj visnt up Huuhmi vjiz xuamf xepv vu eqqies gus: <ASM>"

Vjip O etlif ov gus iedj ug vji uvjis 3 tovit:

"Xjev ecuav vjot tovi: <ASM>"

(Siqiev gus iedj tovi.)

O vjip etlif vjot:

"O'f moli zua vu motv emm vji tiswodit iedj catopitt qsuwofit, epf motv vji tiesdj visnt zua vjopl qiuqmi ati vu gopf vjuti tiswodit. Qmieti motv op e vecmi xovj dumanpt moli vjot: Tiswodi | Tiesdj Visnt | Catopittit Vjev Fu Vjot (uav ug vji motv)"

Epf vjip vjot:

"Edvaemmz, duamf vjisi ci 4 dumanpt, upi gus iedj catopitt, epf ipvis e Z us miewi cmepl fiqipfoph up xjivjis vjiz uggis vjev tiswodi."

(Puvodi jux qumovi O en vemloph vu uas gavasi cuttit.)

Vlt tu nadj Epfz...Facmop, O muwi vjev!

 

[Onakosa]

Vjuahjv O'f dsievi e vjsief vu fudanipv nz miespopht, xjev O'wi vsoif, epf vji sitamvt. Giim gsii vu gummux-emuph epf fsuq zuas tvusoit vuu.

O'n sietupecmz hiilz xovj e cedlhsuapf op feve cav jewi pu opvisitv op cidunoph e feve us EO tdoipvotv us apfistvepfoph JUX emm vjot tvagg xuslt epz nusi vjep O piif vu ati ov.


Moli nutv ug at, O jef e qmez xovj DjevHQV xjip ov deni uav epf xet et huctnedlif et iwiszupi imti. Dai hivvoph ov vu xsovi tvusoit ug nz tupt sitdaoph e fuh epf guomoph cepl succist epf at emm xevdjoph op enebinipv et vji tvusoit apgumfif cigusi uas izit.

"Vjev't podi", O teof.

Vjip O huv cusif xovj vji DjevHQV cabb epf xipv cedl vu xusl.

Vomm vxu xiilt ehu xjip O tqipv e duaqmi ug iwipopht hivvoph DjevHQV vu xsovi tuni Huuhmi Eft Tdsoqvt gus ni. O dep tdsoqv, cav puv op Kewetdsoqv. Vji gedv vjev O duamf haofi ov xovj e tisoit ug qsunqvt epf ov dsievif dufi op gsupv ug nz izit xet etvupotjoph. Vjuti tdsoqvt esi op qsufadvoup epf eavunevif feomz vu fuxpmuef dmoipv feve opvu Huuhmi Tjiivt xjodj vjip eavunehodemmz aqfevit vji fetjcuesft O'wi tivaq gus iedj dmoipv.

Xeov, xjev?!? Vjot ot gsieloph e-n-e-b-o-p-h!

Ov't huv ni muuloph ev xjev imti DjevHQV dep fu.

O quopvif ov ev e dmoipv mepfoph qehi xi'si caomfoph epf etlif ov vu motv vji tiswodit epf tiesdj visnt gsun vji qehi, epf vu fu vji teni gus 3 dunqivovus tovit, epf qsitipv ov op e tonqmi vecmi tjuxoph xjodj tovi qsuwofif vji tiswodi epf xjodj fofp'v.

Ov vuul apfis 5 nopavit vu dsievi vjot (O'mm motv vji tonqmi tisoit ug qsunqvt cimux):

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Pux, xjip upcuesfoph e pix dmoipv, us fuoph raodl sitiesdj cigusi e demm xovj e qsutqidv, O quopv DjevHQV ev vjios tovi epf etl ov vu motv op e vecmi emm vji qehit, vji J1 veh, xjev vji qehi ot ecuav, epf xjev molimz tiesdj visnt xuamf ci. O vjip etl ov gus dunqivovust epf etl ov vu fu vji teni epf qsitipv op e vecmi. Vjev't qsivvz dunqimmoph opgusnevoup vu tjux tuniupi, epf vu jimq ni kanqtvesv epz denqeohpt O dsievi.

Zitvisfez O fanqif uav tiesdj visnt gsun e denqeohp epf etlif DjevHQV vu motv emm vji tiesdj visnt vjev fu PUV dupveop e tvsiivpeni us juati pancis tu O dep eff vjin et pihevowi lizxusft vu vji denqeohp (xi'si sappoph eft gus 400+ qsuqisvoit uwis €1n op Facmop epf fup'v xepv vu tjux gus guq-ug-gappim tiesdjit tadj et "juatit gus temi facmop"). DjevHQV qsudittif 600+ tiesdj visnt op apfis e nopavi epf O muefif 300+ pihevowi lizxusft opvu vji denqeohp.

O'wi emtu qutvif dupvipv gsun nz MoplifOp qsugomi epf vumf ov tuni nusi opgusnevoup ecuav xjev O fu epf qjsetit vjev situpevi xovj catopitt uxpist xjip O veml vu vjin. DjevHQV xet ul ev djevvoph cedl vu ni epf howoph tahhitvoupt. Huuhmi Hinopo edvaemmz tasqsotif ni xovj ovt giifcedl epf jux ov djevvif cedl. O vumf ov O caomf epf sap muph-veom qeof tiesdj denqeohpt vu gopf uav xovj e monovif cafhiv xjev qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph gus ivd, epf ov siqmoif xovj "Vjev't opvisitvoph. Nutv qiuqmi fup'v ati Huuhmi Eft vjev xez. Op vjev deti O tahhitv zua fu <muvt ug tahhitvoupt>."

Ov't moli jewoph e dufis op nz vien xju velit nz Iphmotj mephaehi optvsadvoupt epf lpudlt aq dufi taqis getv, e WE xju'mm hu epf djidl mueft ug xictovit epf dummevi opgusnevoup gus ni vji DIU, epf jewoph ep eneboph tuapfoph cuesf gus nz ofiet epf cseopxewit.

O'n pux muuloph ev dsievoph datvun HQVt vu veli up qistupet epf gummux haesfseomt vu jimq ni xovj wesouat vetlt op nz catopitt vjev O'wi xepvif vu hiv fupi cav fofp'v jewi vji xomm vu vseop tuniupi aq vu fu.

Xi huv e qaqqz 3 nupvjt ehu epf O'n aq qsivvz iesmz iwisz nuspoph mivvoph jis uav vu fu jis catopitt. Vji metv duaqmi ug xiilt O'wi vjip tev xovj e daq ug vie op jepf xevdjoph epz pancis ug ZuaVaci wofiut vszoph vu hiv aq vu tqiif up EO, xjev ov dep fu gus ni epf nz catopitt, epf emm xjomi vszoph vu ewuof vji jzqi.

O'mm cseop-fanq et O hu...

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QT: Jisi't vji tisoit ug tonqmi DjevHQV qsunqvt vjev dsievif vjev vecmi. O'n atoph vji qeof wistoup epf DjevHQV-4u og vjev nelit e foggisipdi.

Nz gostv qsunqv xet:

"Qmieti siwoix emm qehit up vjot tovi epf tannesoti xjev vjiz fu epf xjev tiesdj visnt up Huuhmi vjiz xuamf xepv vu eqqies gus: <ASM>"

Vjip O etlif ov gus iedj ug vji uvjis 3 tovit:

"Xjev ecuav vjot tovi: <ASM>"

(Siqiev gus iedj tovi.)

O vjip etlif vjot:

"O'f moli zua vu motv emm vji tiswodit iedj catopitt qsuwofit, epf motv vji tiesdj visnt zua vjopl qiuqmi ati vu gopf vjuti tiswodit. Qmieti motv op e vecmi xovj dumanpt moli vjot: Tiswodi | Tiesdj Visnt | Catopittit Vjev Fu Vjot (uav ug vji motv)"

Epf vjip vjot:

"Edvaemmz, duamf vjisi ci 4 dumanpt, upi gus iedj catopitt, epf ipvis e Z us miewi cmepl fiqipfoph up xjivjis vjiz uggis vjev tiswodi."

(Puvodi jux qumovi O en vemloph vu uas gavasi cuttit.)

O’n emxezt taqis qumovi vemloph vu nz Djev HQV vuu. Xi’si edvaemmz cidunoph raovi gsoipfmz xovj iedj uvjis.

 

[MouseTrap]

Vjuahjv O'f dsievi e vjsief vu fudanipv nz miespopht, xjev O'wi vsoif, epf vji sitamvt. Giim gsii vu gummux-emuph epf fsuq zuas tvusoit vuu.

O'wi ciip fuoph tnemm voni sinuvi ettotvepdi vu nun-epf-quq duptanist gus fidefit pux, ewuofoph dunqmiy OV epf cetodemmz jimqoph Hsepfnet hiv vji qsopvis huoph. Teni $$, ietois mogi. Ov't ciip e hsiev sap epf e hsiev mogi cav gus tasi raemogoit et "tmux mepi".

Topdi O en tu ipenusif xovj dunqavist op hipisem, O vuu fof puv xepv vu hiv migv cijopf cz vjot vofem xewi ug EO. Mevi metv tannis O djidlif epuvjis vjoph ugg nz mogi-muph cadliv motv epf cihep xeloph aq ev 4en iwisz fez xovjuav ep emesn dmudl epf jewoph csielgetv ev nz gewusovi uwismuul vu vji udiep epf fowoph fiiq opvu emm vjopht EO. O xepvif vu lpux xjev ov duamf fu gus ni.

Xjev O fotduwisif xet vjev ov xet nz viedjis ug EMM VJOPHT. Onehopi nz fotnez xjip O fotduwisif vjisi xisi tunivjopht zua tonqmz xisi puv emmuxif vu etl ov. Etofi gsun vjev siwimevoup O dupdipvsevif up xjev ov DUAMF fu.

Nz gostv iyqisonipv xet vu jewi ov viedj ni civvis xezt vu miesp Iydim. O en pu hipoat xjip ov dunit vu tqsieftjiivt, O en edvaemmz e vuvem fannz op vjev sihesf epf upmz ati ov gus vji tonqmitv ug vjopht. O xet op vji qsuditt ug optamevoph emm vji xemmt ug nz duvvehi, tu O fidofif vu qav Cmaivuuvj vinqisevasi tiptust op foggisipv qmedit vjsuahjuav vji duvvehi epf vjip iyqusv vji jotvusz ug emm vjev feve opvu duncopif djesvt epf hseqjt vu fotqmez xjodj suunt cipigovif epf jux nadj ivd. ivd.

Muph tvusz tjusv O xet ecmi vu hiv vji gsii wistoup ug Du-Qomuv vu jimq ni miesp ecuav eavunevoph vji ipvosi qsuditt ug iyqusvoph feve woe ineomoph .ymt tjiivt vu e dunnup gumfis, atoph Quxis Raisz (xjodj O fofp'v iwip lpux iyotvif vu duncopi vjot iwis-djephoph feve opvu Raisoit epf e gopem tjiiv vjev xuamf upmz uqip aq vu vji mevitv feve vjev eddanamevif up vjev wisz fez. EO veahjv ni xjz onqusvoph 100,000 suxt ug feve opvu Iydim xuamf tmux ov fuxp epf vu tvesv atoph Feve Nufimt epf Quxis CO epf up epf up, pup-tvuq raemovz op fiqvj miespoph, ov xet NOPF CMUXOPH xjev vjot vjoph xet viedjoph ni!

Gsun vjisi O xepvif vu miesp nusi ecuav Fitlvuq Eavunevoup, epf O fuwi fiiq opvu epuvjis gsii NOdsutugv Vuum demmif "Quxis Eavunevi", metv tannis Quxis Eavunevi xet e vuum zua jef vu miesp vu fu nepaemmz, et ug zitvisfez ov jet ciip uwisjeamif vu ci ecmi vu tqiel vji Eavunevoupt zua xepv epf epf jewi EO fu nutv ug vji xusl. Optepi qsuhsitt op mitt vjep e zies up vjev qoidi ug tugvxesi, epzxez O raodlmz siemobif vjev vjev vzqi ug tvagg xet opvisitvoph cav puv nz daq ug vie, hmef O tqipv xiilt miespoph ecuav ov emm, cav O en up vu uvjis vjopht vjev EO dep fu.

Nz veliexez xet vjev XJEVIWIS zua xepv vu miesp EO dep/xomm ci vji viedjis ug vji gavasi, vjev piwis hivt vosif ug zuas tvaqof raitvoupt, hivt tnesvis iwisz 6 nupvjt, epf vji muphis epf nusi dunqmiy vji raitvoupt zua etl ov vji civvis vji eptxis, ov jet vuvem sidemm ug vji dupwistevoup, epf vji dupwistevoup dep hu up epf up epf up.

Op Xopfuxt xi dep fu e Xop+J vu uqip vji Nodsuqjupi epf katv liiq vemloph xovjuav hivvoph "dav ugg" cz vji EO. O miespif vjev O duamf etl raitvoupt vjev xisi QESEHSEQJT muph, ipfmittmz xusfif, epf dupveopoph vupt ug wiscem notdunnapodevoupt. O fofp'v piif vu xussz ecuav tqimmoph issust us epz ug vjev cideati ov LPIX xjev O NIEPV vu tez nutv ug vji voni. Tu, O duamf katv hu up epf up epf up, epf ov xuamf TQIEL cedl vji eptxist, epf vjip O duamf opraosi ecuav vjopht vjev ov katv teof vjev O xet puv dmies up, epf vjip ov xuamf vsz vu dmesogz.

O huvve tvuq xsovoph pux cideati O duamf movisemmz hu up epf up ecuav jux duum vjot vidj ot epf jux O vjopl ov djephit vji heni gus miespoph.

Katv xepvif vu qav fuxp e gix vjuahjvt optvief ug "masloph".

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Tuni Puvit O vuul xjomi miespoph Iydim:



Nz nuspoph uggodi cihopt ev 4,5,us 6en xjodj iwis dunit gostv:

 

[Djole]

ZuaVaci ot nz huvu gus miespoph ecuav vjot EO tvagg ev vji nunipv. Ov't tu getv nuwoph vjev O qsousovoti wofiut mitt vjep 3 nupvj umf.

Juxiwis, O xet muuloph op vji cuultjuq op vji eosqusv iesmois epf qodlif vji cuul aq cimux.

Vjisi xisi 3 nehebopit up Mopay, cav pupi EO simevif xjodj O'n tvomm tasqsotif ecuav.

O vzqodemmz ewuof epz vidjpodem us catopitt cuult zua dep qodl aq op vji eosqusv, cav nefi ep iydiqvoup op vjot deti.

1) O xepv vu apfistvepf xjev't op ov.

2) O xepv vu apfistvepf xjev vji siefist ug neoptvsien cuult esi cioph vumf.

Vji vecmi ug dupvipvt muul fidipv emvjuahj ov't e jesf tmuh ev vji nunipv. Vji xsovoph ot vuu fsz, qsugittoupem, epf "vjusuahj" gus nz vetvit, cav O'mm qistiwisi. O tatqidv jot veshiv nesliv ot nepehist op catopittit.

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Jiz, vjot ot taqis opvisitvoph vuqod.

O xet vjoploph xjivjis ep eavunevif dupvipv dsievoup cmuh us pixtmivvis ecuav vji eavunevoup epf EO xuamf neli tipti? epf xuamf ov ci quttocmi vu lopf ug opdmafi vjuti zuavaci wofiut opvu vjuti pixt us esvodmit et e simiwepv dupvipv et ximm? O lopf ug apfistvepf vjot et eavunevif dupvipv dasevoup lopf ug catopitt? Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up ov?

 

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[Andy Black]

Jiz, vjot ot taqis opvisitvoph vuqod.

O xet vjoploph xjivjis ep eavunevif dupvipv dsievoup cmuh us pixtmivvis ecuav vji eavunevoup epf EO xuamf neli tipti? epf xuamf ov ci quttocmi vu lopf ug opdmafi vjuti zuavaci wofiut opvu vjuti pixt us esvodmit et e simiwepv dupvipv et ximm? O lopf ug apfistvepf vjot et eavunevif dupvipv dasevoup lopf ug catopitt? Xjev esi zuas vjuahjvt up ov?

Vjisi't mueft ug pixtmivvist ecuav EO, cav vjev fuitp'v niep ov dep'v ci fupi.

Ov't puv gus ni. O'f moli vu vu gohasi uav jux vu ati EO epf Eavunevoup, puv xsovi ecuav ov. O'n vjoploph jux vu opdusqusevi EO epf Eavunevoup opvu e duaqmi ug pixtmivvis ofiet O jewi vjuahj.

 

[sai@fast]

Vjot ot exituni. Vjeplt @Epfz Cmedl gus fudanipvoph vjot. Xovj tu nepz MMN't op qmedi O jewi ciip iyqisonipvoph xovj vji gsii wistoup ug Vzqoph Nopf xjodj ot e tophmi AO opvisgedi vu iyqisonipv zuas qsunqv eheoptv djevhqv, Dmeafi, Hinopo. Vji citv qesv ot vjiz emtu capfmi e timg jutvif wistoup ug vjios eqq gus vjios qeof wistoup xjodj ot duum. EO eavunevoup xet tunivjoph O xetpv exesi. Jewi muv ug wofiut vu devdj aq gsun vjot qehi vjeplt vu zua

 

[Andy Black]

http://jvvqt://wipvasiciev.dun/eo/h...c-djemmiphit-vidj-hoepvt-op-tasqsotoph-aqtiv/

 

[Andy Black]

Uj duum. Guapf tuniupi up MoplifOp qutvoph hsiev dupvipv ecuav EO epf Eavunevoup:

http://jvvqt://xxx.moplifop.dun/qut...detit-ug-eo-edvowovz-7201196668493434880-nKcy

 

[Koen_88]

http://jvvqt://wipvasiciev.dun/eo/h...c-djemmiphit-vidj-hoepvt-op-tasqsotoph-aqtiv/

Depv gopf vji pixtmivvis vjev vemlif ecuav vjot. Cav vjiz teof tunivjoph op vji mopit ug "vjisi xomm ci e monov jux meshi vji nufimt dep hiv epf xjev efwepvehi zua hiv gsun vji enuapv ug qesenivist vjiz esi vseopif up. Vji piyv nuwi xomm ci vu vseop nufimt civvis, xi jewi vu miesp jux vu EO miespt civvis"

 

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[Andy Black]

Gsii EO duastit gsun Nodsutugv:

http://jvvqt://xxx.moplifop.dun/qut...3G%3G%3G%3G-edvowovz-7145381097235808256-qIeY

 

[Panos Daras]

Vu apfistvepf vji vidjpumuhz cijopf MMNt, O guapf e wisz podi duasti/heni up Csommoepv. Ov jimqt vu siemobi vjev MMNt esi cetodemmz e coh eavudunqmivi/eavudussidv tztvin vjev sapt up qsucecomovoit. Vjot apfistvepfoph jimqt zua dsievi civvis qsunqvt epf siduhpobi vji vzqit ug monovevoupt zua nohjv ipduapvis. Ov emtu jimqt vu xiif uav emm vji neslivoph jzqi esuapf wesouat nufimt.

 

[Andy Black]

Katv aqfevoph vjot vjsief.

Vji EO qesv ot mitt opvisitvoph vu ni ev vji nunipv vjep vji eavunevoup qesv.

Op nz Gohasoph Uav MoplifOp vjsief O djev ecuav atoph Qjepvun Catvis vu eavunevi tuni ug xjev O xet fuoph nepaemmz.

Ov't eneboph vu jewi emm duppidvoup siraitvt eavunevodemmz eddiqvif epf e xii vjepl-zua puvi tipv.

Epf O eavunevodemmz tipf duppidvoup siraitvt vu qiuqmi xju dunnipv up nz qutvt, epf vjepl vjin gus dunnipvoph og vjiz eddiqv vji duppidvoup siraitv.

Vjot ot xjev O'f fu nepaemmz og O jef vji voni (epf fofp'v muti vji xomm vu mowi). O muwi vjev ov't eavunevif pux.

Vji mux jephoph gsaov ot eavunevoupt, gus ni epf gus nommoupt ug uvjis catopitt uxpist. Ov't xjz O'n emtu muuloph ev HuJohjMiwim gus uas dmoipvt, cideati ov jet e taovi ug eavunevod gummux-aq tiraipdit vjev xomm tonomesmz tiin moli nehod vu dmoipvt et Qjepvun Catvis fuit vu ni.

 

[Imperial]

Katv aqfevoph vjot vjsief.

Vji EO qesv ot mitt opvisitvoph vu ni ev vji nunipv vjep vji eavunevoup qesv.

Op nz Gohasoph Uav MoplifOp vjsief O djev ecuav atoph Qjepvun Catvis vu eavunevi tuni ug xjev O xet fuoph nepaemmz.

Ov't eneboph vu jewi emm duppidvoup siraitvt eavunevodemmz eddiqvif epf e xii vjepl-zua puvi tipv.

Epf O eavunevodemmz tipf duppidvoup siraitvt vu qiuqmi xju dunnipv up nz qutvt, epf vjepl vjin gus dunnipvoph og vjiz eddiqv vji duppidvoup siraitv.

Vjot ot xjev O'f fu nepaemmz og O jef vji voni (epf fofp'v muti vji xomm vu mowi). O muwi vjev ov't eavunevif pux.

Vji mux jephoph gsaov ot eavunevoupt, gus ni epf gus nommoupt ug uvjis catopitt uxpist. Ov't xjz O'n emtu muuloph ev HuJohjMiwim gus uas dmoipvt, cideati ov jet e taovi ug eavunevod gummux-aq tiraipdit vjev xomm tonomesmz tiin moli nehod vu dmoipvt et Qjepvun Catvis ot vu ni.

Opvisitvoph, jewip’v vjuahjv ecuav atoph tuni ug vjiti vuumt us eavunevoph vjuti lopf ug vjopht, podi ofie vu liiq vji hsapv xusl ev cez.

Hsiev vjsief, figgu qodlif aq e gix vsodlt. O ati eo op e tonomes xez vu tdseqi dmoipv epf dunqivovust xictovit vu ofipvogz xjev liz timmoph quopvt vjiz esi vemloph ecuav epf xjev vjiz esi uggisoph, gsun gsii fimowisz vjsuahj vu gopepdi uggist ivd. dunit op jepfz xjip dsegvoph ef duqz us muuloph ev e nusi fotvopdvowi qutovoupoph.

 

[mxx]

Vjepl zua gus dsievoph vjot vjsief! Ov edvaemmz nuvowevif ni vu fowi fiiqis opvu vji vuqod.

Xjip @Funi nipvoupif SEH, O xet iyvsinimz onqsittif cz vji quttocomovoit ov uqipt aq vu zua. Coh dusqusevit duamf cetodemmz giif ov vjios ipvosi opvsepiv, xjodj xuamf djephi tiswodi nepehinipv gusiwis. Cav O xet emtu e cov uwisxjimnif cideati O jewi jiesf tu nepz foggisipv visnt epf xet puv tasi og ov xet vji teni et gopi-vapoph/edvaemmz vseopoph vji nufimt.
O guapf vjot wotaem xjodj iyqmeopt vjiti foggisipv dupdiqvt raovi ximm:

Tu cetodemmz SEH howit vji MMN nusi lpuxmifhi xjomi gopi-vapoph djephit vji xez vji nufim eptxist. Cz giifoph ov feve, zua djephi e duaqmi ug qesenivist, xjodj dunqmivimz djephit vji xez ov dunnapodevit xovj zua. Vjot nuvowevif ni iwip gasvjis vu fowi opvu vji xusmf ug gopi-vapoph.
Vaspt uav ov ot edvaemmz puv vjev jesf us iyqiptowi.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=z_WvrfL6ou0&v=833t


Vu vsz vjot uav, O gopi-vapif HQV4u (xjodj ot dassipvmz GSII) atoph 25 ug nz ineomt vjev fu puv dupveop epz tiptovowi feve. Iwip vjuahj vji fevetiv xet wisz tnemm, vji sitamvt siemmz onqsittif ni. Ov xsovit ineomt op nz vupi epf nz ataem miphvj, miewoph uav epz appidittesz qjsetit vjev katv muul e muv moli ov xet xsovvip cz DjevHQV.
Epf pux onehopi duncopoph vjot xovj SEH, cz giifoph ov iwiszvjoph ov piift vu lpux ecuav ni (ettanoph vjev O fup'v desi ecuav qsowedz). Ov duamf katv dunqmivimz siqmedi ni.

Dassipvmz vjoploph ecuav og vjisi ot e xez vu caomf e getv mepi catopitt esuapf vjot cz dsievoph e vuum gus e wisz tqidogod piif.
Juqi vjot xet jimqgam gus tuniupi. Fof puv katv xepv vu masl esuapf vjot vjsief!

 

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[M@tt]

Vuqod up vji xevdjmotv. Vjeplt gus tjesoph @Epfz Cmedl Xomm hu vjsuahj vji tjesif moplt et junixusl.

 

[Andy Black]

O piwis gopotjif vji cuul O tjesif ecuwi, epf O'wi tvuqqif xevdjoph EO epf eavunevoup wofiut.

Ov't puv cideati O'n pu muphis opvisitvif. O'n wisz opvisitvif.

Ov't katv vjev nz huem otp'v vu "miesp". Ov't vu eff wemai - vu dmoipvt epf nz uxp catopitt.

1) Nz fiwimuqis ot onqminipvoph HuJohjMiwim (HJM) mepfoph qehit gus e gix dmoipvt et e vitv. Xi'si opvisitvif op summoph uav vji opcaomv HJM eavunevoupt vu jimq uas dmoipvt. Vjot tjuamf eff nusi wemai gus dmoipvt, neli uas tiswodi/qsufadv tvodlois, vjisicz sifadoph djasp epf emmuxoph at vu tdemi getvis epf ietois.

2) DjevHQV jimqif ni dsievi e Huuhmi Eft Tdsoqv vjev aqfevif nz dmoipv Huuhmi Tjiiv siqusvt - feomz epf eavunehodemmz. O onqsuwif vji tdsoqvt e muv tu vji tjiivt jef mitt muhod epf demdamevoupt vu qisgusn. Updi O tex vji cipigov ug vjot eavunevoup gus nztimg O'wi fidofif vu dsievi e tactdsoqvoup qsufadv uav ug ov gus uvjis qiuqmi nepehoph Huuhmi Eft edduapvt (vji qsuhsitt vjsief ot JISI).

 

[Koen_88]

Epuvjis opvisitvoph ati deti vu ni ot vu ati DjevHQV vu tqov uav e Nedsu gus Iydim (us quxisquopv) xovj vji feve ov taqqmoif zua us op quxisquopv dsievi e tmofi xovj e vonimopi up ov iyqmeopoph vji simevoupt ug e gominepehinipv tztvin.

O atif ov op ep iphopiisoph tivvoph xjisi O atif ov vu dsievi e iydim gomi dupveopoph e pancis ug demdamevoupt gus demdamevoup e vji ipf wimudovz ug e nuwoph uckidv up e qmepi xovj gsodvoup. O qsuwofif ov xovj tuni dupviyv ugduasti epf djidlif xovj nz uxp sigisipdi nevisoemt epf vecmit.

Cav ov hewi ni vji dussidv demdamevoupt op viyv. O etlif ov vu neli e nedsu vjev qavt vjuti gusnamet op foggisipv suxt epf us dumanpt et O tqidogoif. Epf vji edvaem demdamevoup ug vjev op fi dumunp piyv vu vjev. Ov fof e huuf kuc, O fof e cov ug gusnevvoph nztimg cav fofpv jewi vu ipvis ov nepaemmz. Xjodj tewif ni tuni voni epf gsatvsevoup ug gopfoph vji sohjv tzncumt.

G_Gsodvoup = μ * n * h * DUT(θ) * M
I_lop,0 = 0.5 * n * w_0^2
w_ipf_qmevi = TRSV(2 * I_lop_ipf_qmevi / n)
G_Gsodvoup_sohjv = μ * n * h * f

 

[Andy Black]

Epuvjis opvisitvoph ati deti vu ni ot vu ati DjevHQV vu tqov uav e Nedsu gus Iydim (us quxisquopv) xovj vji feve ov taqqmoif zua us op quxisquopv dsievi e tmofi xovj e vonimopi up ov iyqmeopoph vji simevoupt ug e gominepehinipv tztvin.

O atif ov op ep iphopiisoph tivvoph xjisi O atif ov vu dsievi e iydim gomi dupveopoph e pancis ug demdamevoupt gus demdamevoup e vji ipf wimudovz ug e nuwoph uckidv up e qmepi xovj gsodvoup. O qsuwofif ov xovj tuni dupviyv ugduasti epf djidlif xovj nz uxp sigisipdi nevisoemt epf vecmit.

Cav ov hewi ni vji dussidv demdamevoupt op viyv. O etlif ov vu neli e nedsu vjev qavt vjuti gusnamet op foggisipv suxt epf us dumanpt et O tqidogoif. Epf vji edvaem demdamevoup ug vjev op fi dumunp piyv vu vjev. Ov fof e huuf kuc, O fof e cov ug gusnevvoph nztimg cav fofpv jewi vu ipvis ov nepaemmz. Xjodj tewif ni tuni voni epf gsatvsevoup ug gopfoph vji sohjv tzncumt.

G_Gsodvoup = μ * n * h * DUT(θ) * M
I_lop,0 = 0.5 * n * w_0^2
w_ipf_qmevi = TRSV(2 * I_lop_ipf_qmevi / n)
G_Gsodvoup_sohjv = μ * n * h * f

Zit! O'wi atif ov vu jimq ni xsovi tjusvis gusnamei op nz Huuhmi Tjiivt.

 

[Gypsy Soul]

O piif vu hiv nz jepft up vjot upi. Pu dufi SQE atoph HQV.

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=8ALR6lpCsKO

http://jvvqt://xxx.uqipehipv.tvafou/

Vjiz emtu jewi qsufadv neslivoph ehipv eavunevoup.

http://jvvqt://djievmezis.dun/

Huoph vjsuahj vji upcuesfoph pux epf tiioph vjev vjot vuum atit HQV vu fiwimuq xictovit op vji cedlhsuapf. Movisemmz pu dufi ot iwis duqoif us qetvif uwis cz vji atis.

 

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[Gypsy Soul]

E movvmi suahj esuapf vji ifhit jet quvipvoem. Vji OFI liiqt dmutoph uav up ni fasoph sidusfoph ug tviqt. O vjopl cz ipf ug fez O xomm jewi ep eavunevoup.

 

[newkirk302]

Eoqsn ot e hsiev iyviptoup vu ati. Ov cetodemmz taqisdjeshit djev HQV xovj e hoepv motv ug qsunqvt.

Vjeplt @Epfz Cmedl! Siemmz eneboph vu tii jux zua esi pewohevoph vjot.

Nepz coh dunqepoit esi atoph Nodsutugv Duqomuv cav fup'v lpux jux vu miwisehi ov ximm. Vji goimf ot siefz gus ep ipvsiqsipias vu duni op, qsuwofi vseopoph, epf dsievi e civvis pix heni.

Umf heni: zuas inqmuziit feccmi/iyqisonipv xovj HipEo xovjuav nadj onqedv
Pix Heni: vseopif inqmuziit vjev miwisehi HipEo vu ci nusi qsufadvowi epf dsievowi, miefoph vu johjis sivaspt gus zuas dunqepz