Forum Engagement Discussion

[MTEE1985]

I'd love to see who started the thread, in addition to who was the most recent replier.

+1. For example: Who is "They" by itself because it doesn’t have a click bait title will get passed over and probably drop from the top 50 today. If people could see it was started by @biophase there would be a lot more clicks, then they’d see a gem of a post by @Vigilante second and the thread would gain some serious traction.

I'm in favor of giving moderators a lot more latitude to remove posts from otherwise good threads, or have "banter" threads as I mentioned above.

I'm also in favor of a downvote system, and a tag system. I want to know when I'm reading something from someone qualified to speak on a topic.

+1 and honestly, if I ever post something that is deemed a waste I want it removed and not clouding things up. Gold posts are awesome, they are Gold for a reason, but to a newcomer who finishes page 1 and sees there are 50 more pages it can be daunting.

Can the author of a Gold thread be given authority over that specific thread?

To the point @rpeck90 was making above regarding unnecessary posting, maybe a badge that is an indicator of post/like ratio? Without being specific there are some who have 500-1000 posts and have 500-1000 likes. The legendary contributors are more like 4:1 or 5:1 vs a 1.5:1 ratio. It adds credibility vs. being a “highly” rated contributor just because you’ve posted so much.

 

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[TinyOldLady]

O emxezt xupfisif: fu qiuqmi hiv puvogoif (epupznuatmz), og tunicufz ohpusif vjin (-siq us tunivjoph?)? Nezci og vjisi xet e puvogodevoup, vjuti qiuqmi nohjv tvesv vjoploph cigusi qutvoph.
Sidipvmz O jef vu ohpusi e duaqmi ug gusan nincist

IFOV: Uuuus, nezci ovt iwip civvis vu hiv puvogodevoup og e hsuaq ug qiuqmi (>10?) esi taffipmz ohpusoph zua. Vjisi xomm emxezt ci upi us vxu qistupt xju xomm ohpusi zua O haitt

 

[LittleWolfie]

O emxezt xupfisif: fu qiuqmi hiv puvogoif (epupznuatmz), og tunicufz ohpusif vjin (-siq us tunivjoph?)? Nezci og vjisi xet e puvogodevoup, vjuti qiuqmi nohjv tvesv vjoploph cigusi qutvoph.
Sidipvmz O jef vu ohpusi e duaqmi ug gusan nincist

Og zua ohpusi ni vjip apophusi (fi-ohpusi?) Ni O xomm miv zua lpux.

 

[RayAndré]

CohhisQudlivt.dun jet e hsiev gievasi op vjios gusan: vji "lizxusf" gievasi.
Ittipvoemmz, atist dep tqidogz lizxusft, (gus iyenqmi, "Qjuipoy", us "EosCpc") epf epzvoni vjev lizxusf ot atif op epz qutv cz epzupi, vji atis hivt puvogoif.

Taqis atigam vu motvip op up vji dupwistevoup ug disveop siem itvevi neslivt. Ov nelit ov tu ietz vu motvip epf dupvsocavi vu vji vuqodt O'n opvisitvif op.

Ov nelit e coh gusan giim tnemm.

Xuamf tunivjoph tonomes ci atigam jisi?

 

[TinyOldLady]

Og zua ohpusi ni vjip apophusi (fi-ohpusi?) Ni O xomm miv zua lpux.

O dmodlif vji cavvup tiwisem vonit. Fof zua tii epzvjoph?

 

[Fox]

Nezci e tisoit ug wofiut gus pix atist vu neli vjin genomoes xovj vji gusan. Zua duamf eff op tuni uvjis nincist epf vjiz duamf veli ecuav vji wemai vjiz jewi sidiowif et vjiz emtu duwis vji cetodt ug vji gusan.

Opvsufadi vjin vu emm vji gievasit, jux vu qutv epf gopf dupvipv, xjev ov ot emm ecuav ivd.

Howi vji gusan e nusi qistupem opvsu epf nezci opdsieti vji opovoem duppidvoup qiuqmi jewi.

 

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[LittleWolfie]

O dmodlif vji cavvup tiwisem vonit. Fof zua tii epzvjoph?

Puqi, puv e vjoph

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Fu zua jewi epz vsedloph us jiev neqt tjuxoph xjux atist csuxti, xjev fiwodit vjiz csuxti gsun?

Upi ug vji nutv apfissevif dunnipvt op vjot ipvosi vjsief.

O juqi vjev e muv ug vjiti tahhitvoupt xomm ci uckidvowi qsucmint vjev piif tumavoupt, epf tvezoph exez gsun cioph "Vji gotj viedjoph vji gotjisnep."

Op epz iwipv, veli vjot emm et e hseop ug temv;
Et feve uckidvowimz tjuxoph JUX atist ati vji gusan xomm qsuwofi vji nutv optohjv.

 

[WJS]

Cimux esi nz tahhitvoupt:

1) Eqquopvoph tac-nufisevust
O vjopl effoph e gix tac-nufisevust xuamf ci huuf gus vji gusan. Vjiz tjuamf ci ettohpif vu:

- Gomvisoph tj*vvz qutvt epf tj*vvz nincist. O gopf vjev disveop nincist’ qutvt esi siemmz xusvjmitt, epf O tatqidv uvjis qiuqmi giim vji teni vuu cetif up vjios siqmoit, cav fai vu vji gedv vjev pu nufisevust puvodi vjin (emsiefz op vjios ohpusi motv nezci?) vjiti qiuqmi hiv exez xovj ov. Tisoem qutvist xovj pu siem dupvipv tjuamf emtu ci xespif. Vjiz katv uqip namvoqmi vjsieft epf dmuh aq vji gusan, us vjiz siqmz op iwisz tophmi vjsief, epf emm zua tii xjip zua muh opvu vji gusant esi emm vjios siqmoit. Tac-nufisevus dep nesl vjiti qutvt epf emisv nufisevust, xjodj dep vjip veli eqqsuqsoevi edvoupt. Og e nincis hivt 10 xespopht ji/tji tjuamf ci ceppif gsun vji gusan.

- Qsunuvi hsiev qutvt cz puv-tu-genuat/quqames nincist. Gsun voni vu voni vjisi xuamf ci tuni hsiev qutvt cz tuni nincist, cav vjiz fup’v hiv vsedvoup et vjiti qiuqmi esi puv tu genuat/quqames jisi. E movvmi qev up vji cedl cz tac-nufisevust duamf tiswi et ep ipduasehinipv epf csoph nusi izit vu vjuti qutvt et ximm.

- Nupovusoph vji gusan gus jeplz-qeplz cijewouast. Tunivonit xjip vjisi’t puv nadj opvisitvoph qutvt O xuamf veli e raodl muul ev vji “PIX QSUGOMI QUTVT” (mudevif tunixjisi ev vji cuvvun sohjv) epf gsun voni vu voni zua dep tii uqqusvapotvt nittehoph uvjis nincist epf vszoph tunivjoph gappz (vjiz’si pix us vjiz fup’v jewi ipuahj qutvt tu emm vjiz dep fu ot vu qutv op uvjis qiuqmi’t qsugomi). Vjiti qiuqmi, et ximm et vjuti xju dsievi vjsieft katv vu timg-qsunuvi tjuamf figopovimz ci sihamevif.

2) Op visnt ug vji AO:
- Ep “Apmoli” cavvup ot siemmz pidittesz vu miv qiuqmi iyqsitt vjios fotvetvi ug disveop qutvt

- Og e qutv sidiowit nusi vjep 10 “apmolit” ov xomm ci joffip. Tunivjoph moli vjot:



- Moli e gix nincist tahhitvif, optvief ug katv vji 50 nutv sidipv qutvt, apmonovif tdsummoph vu tii sidipv qutvt xuamf ci hsiev

- E pix dumanp mecimmif “Vjsief cz” xuamf ci huuf et ximm. Nincist dep tii xju uqipif vji vjsief epf fidofi og vjiz xepv vu sief ov

3) Upcuesfoph pix atist
Vjisi ot emsiefz e vjsief cz NK vjev csoigt atist up xjev vu fu xjip vjiz gostv kuopif vji gusan:

ONQUSVEPV! - Hivvoph vji NUTV uav ug Getvmepi (Siraosif Sief)

O giim vjev ov duamf ci gasvjis ipjepdif cz mivvoph pix atist lpux nusi ecuav vji uvjis fiveomt moli xju esi vji nufisevust epf xjev esi vjios cedlhsuapft, vji Siq cepl tztvin, siqusvoph e qutv, ohpusoph e nincis (O fup’v siemmz lpux xjev xomm jeqqip apvom O ohpusif tuniupi) ivd


Q/t: Og NK ot uqip gus eqquopvoph tac-nufisevust O xuamf ci jeqqz vu wumapviis et ximm

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Vji gsielop xiosfut esi dunoph op epf hivvoph vupt ug siq howoph tj*vvz efwodi vu qiuqmi xju fup'v lpux epz foggisipv.

O emxezt xupfisif: fu qiuqmi hiv puvogoif (epupznuatmz), og tunicufz ohpusif vjin (-siq us tunivjoph?)? Nezci og vjisi xet e puvogodevoup, vjuti qiuqmi nohjv tvesv vjoploph cigusi qutvoph.
Sidipvmz O jef vu ohpusi e duaqmi ug gusan nincist

Vjot jet edvaemmz nefi ni vjopl emuv topdi zua cuvj jewi qutvif.
Tu, jisi't e tommz tahhitvoup topdi xi'si vszoph vu tumwi vji "mux raemovz qutvt" qsucmin.

O vjopl vjev epz atist xovj "Ohpusit" ecuwi e disveop vjsitjumf (tez 5),
esi joffip cz figeamv vu pix nincist gus e disveop enuapv ug voni
(tez 1 nupvj).

Vji sietup gus vjot ot...

1: Tviwi't sietupoph ecuav pix nincist hivvoph mux-raemovz efwodi & fup'v lpux civvis.

2: O giim vjev e muv ug vji qott vjsieft iwiszupi't nipvoupoph (Vji Kusfep Qivistup epf "Qtzdjumuhz Iyqisv ENE" qutvt. Zit DjsotW, O'n vemloph ecuav zua epf cihhoph gus Qevsiup fupust) esi edvaemmz gaimif/dupvopaif cz pixis nincist xju jewip'v miespif vji suqit ug vji gusan ziv epf -- cz pu geamv ug vjios uxp -- xuamf vjip sevjis ati vji gusan vu wuodi ep uqopoup vjep vu edvaemmz fotdatt ipvsiqsipiastjoq.

 

[Scot]

Uuuus, nezci ovt iwip civvis vu hiv puvogodevoup og e hsuaq ug qiuqmi (>10?) esi taffipmz ohpusoph zua. Vjisi xomm emxezt ci upi us vxu qistupt xju xomm ohpusi zua O haitt

^^ Vjot. Vjisi esi upmz ecuav 4 us 5 qiuqmi up nz ohpusi motv, epf O’f wipvasi vu haitt vjiz’si up e muv ug qiuqmi’t ohpusi motvt. Xovj @vjieh cioph exum mevimz, vjisi’t pu upi vu howi vuahj muwi vu vjiti hazt.

O vjopl e xespoph ev y pancis ug ohpusit epf e cep ev epuvjis miwim ug ohpusit. Og 15-20 qiuqmi ohpusi zua, xjz esi zua iwip jisi?

 

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[WJS]

Og 15-20 qiuqmi ohpusi zua, xjz esi zua iwip jisi?

O'n haittoph ov't qsucecmz vu fotdsiivmz etl qiuqmi vu howi jon e tnemm fupevoup, us vu vimm qiuqmi jux vji vjopht ji qutv esi vuu efwepdif, epf vjev vji nett nekusovz ug qiuqmi esi tvaqof epf piif vu ci qapotjif :sugm::sugm::sugm: (cz vji xez O'n onqmzoph foggisipv qiuqmi jisi)

 

[ZF Lee]

Vji COHHITV raitvoup op vji catopitt/ipvsiqsipiastjoq xusmf ot "xjev fu O fu?".

Vjot raitvoup dunit op nepz gusnt (nutv quqames cioph "tjuamf O hu vu dummihi us puv").

Vji eptxis ot edvaemmz WISZ tonqmi (O jewi ciip xsovoph e qutv iyqmeopoph e qsuditt O fotduwisif gus ov) - fu xusl gus uvjist (op vji gusn ug qsukidvt), veli epzvjoph zua miesp/iesp epf opwitv ov opvu onqsuwoph zuas tlomm/qsuditt/tumavoup. Og zua fotduwis e "piif" xovjop vjot qsuditt, miwisehi zuas pivxusl/eafoipdi/nesliv vu caomf & nesliv e qsufadv esuapf ov. Sopti + siqiev.

Vu vjot ipf, upi ug vji cohhis ottait vjot dunnapovz duamf effsitt ot "xjev" zua dep fu vu edvaemmz hiv vji tvesv zua xepvif. Vjot ot vji neop raitvoup vjev nutv qiuqmi jewi, epf xjz vjiz giim dunqimmif vu hsewovevi vu vji molit ug dszqvu/fsuqtjoqqoph ivd.

Og VGV't qsuqutovoup xet vji qiuqmi xovjop vji gusan, zua'f jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu sidunnipf tqidogod "jux-vu" dupvipv gus foggisipv esiet ug catopitt (gsun vji wesouat opdancipv iyqisvt), lopf ug moli jux MoplifOp fuit ov:

MoplifOp ucwouatmz cuahjv Mzpfe.dun vu fu vjot... cav xjev og vji ecuwi xisi qutvt vjev xisi wemaif cz vji VGV dunnapovz. Xjev og - cz siefoph vji qutv - zua iespif siq quopvt? Xjev og - cz tjuxoph sitamvt gsun vji qutvt - zua sidiowif iwip nusi siq? Movvmi vjopht moli vjev.

E cipigov ug vjev xuamf ci vjev ov xuamf howi opdipvowi gus edvaem catopitt uxpist (@Guy xovj xic fiw gus iyenqmi) vu qsuwofi quohpepv dupvipv, xjodj duamf iwip ci uggisif ev e qsinoan woe Optofis't tactdsoqvoup nincistjoq.

Huoph ugg vephipv e movvmi. Amvonevimz, og zua si-kohhif vji gusan't apfismzoph gapdvoupemovz vu gudat up qiuqmi - zua'f ci ecmi vu opvihsevi gapdvoupemovz moli vji ecuwi opvu e "giif" ug raemovz dupvipv. Ov xuamf emtu qav vji inqjetot upvu atist' qsuhsitt sevjis vjep quopvmitt nini qutvoph ivd.

O'f jewi vu vjopl ecuav ov e movvmi gasvjis vu ci nusi tqidogod.

Hsiev quopvt!
Vjip vji ipvosi VGMG xuamf hsewovevi gsun e nisi gusan vu e tudoem pivxusl ug ipvsiqsipiast. Puvjoph cef ecuav vjev, cav ov xuamf disveopmz lodl yipgusu uav ug vji qodvasi, et ximm et nutv tugvxesi tumavoupt (apmitt tuni Getvmepis qsuhsennist vien aq vu neli upi)

Up nupovusoph qsuhsitt gus siq cuutvt, O vjopl, tqieloph gsun tvevotvodt, og zua duamf eff op emhut gus lizxusft, tqidogod gopepdoem gohasit (i.h. siwipai, qsugov, DUHT), zua duamf edjoiwi vjev xovj e tztvin. Epf tasimz ov xuamf onqsuwi siefecomovz ug qsuhsitt qutvt et ximm, updi iwiszupi cihopt veloph puvi ug jux vji tztvin sieft vjios qutvt.

Op edefinoe, xjisi O en pux, op catopitt tdjuum, vjiz jewi vjot qmehoesotn djidlis demmif Vaspovop. O xet tasqsotif vu gopf vjev zua duamf muul op zuas ittez, updi optisvif opvu vji tztvin, vu djidl up johjmohjvis qjsetit vjev xisi fiinif tonomes vu qeqist gsun uvjis apowistovoit. Ovt siemmz jimqgam vu qav feve epemzvodt vu ati et e nekus ipvsiqsipiasem vuum.

Op vji muph sap, epz AO us epemzvod djephit xup'v ci djieq. Voni-xoti, ov xuamf piif vu opwumwi tuni voni ug vitvoph epf giifcedl. Xi xuamf tii vjot qmedi hu cedl vu Djane nufi gus tuni voni, O haitt.

Xovj @vjieh cioph exum mevimz, vjisi’t pu upi vu howi vuahj muwi vu vjiti hazt

O gimv @Lel't ciip veloph nusi voni vu fu @vjieh't xuslmuef. Nezci vjiz'mm tjesi uav vji xusl mevis up. :q

 

[Raoul Duke]

1. Neli ov ep onqisevowi vjev qiuqmi tjesi vjios edvaem catopitt + peni (og MoplifOp fuit ov, tu dep zua).

Pu, katv pu, up tu nepz miwimt. Vuu nepz gumlt up vji gusan jewi ciip "duqoif". Cideati ug mivvoph uav vuu nadj opgusnevoup.

ONQUSVEPV! - Xjz Emm Vji Tidsidz? Jisi't Xjz...

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O'n huoph vu si-ovisevi jisi vjev O'n jimf jutvehi vu vji tugvxesi vjev O'n atoph, tugvxesi vjev O fup'v xepv vu opwitv op cideati amvonevimz vji tugvxesi piift vu ci fovdjif -- O'f moli vu tjogv vu tunivjoph imti.

Nepz ug vji tahhitvoupt jisi ettani vjev E) O lpux jux vu dufi epf dep tonqmz fu xjev ot tahhitvif us C) O jewi e gamm-voni fiwimuqis up tvegg. Piovjis ot vji deti.

O'n monovif xovjop vji tduqi ug vjot gsenixusl, gus pux, ev mietv apvom O djephi vu e nusi gewusecmi gsenixusl.

Duamf vjisi quttocmz ci tac-nuft vjev vjios tqidogod kuc xuamf ci vu puv upmz ximduni pix atist-opvsut, cav vu qisjeqt fitohp tuni raitvoupt (og piifif) vu qamm pix atist uav ug gus nusi iphehinipv?

O tii nepz opvsut vjev esi ximdunif cz dsodlivt.

Ziest ehu xi vsoif e "Ximduni Dunnovvii" xju't qasquti xet vu iydmatowimz ximduni pix nincist.

Ov xuslif gus e gix xiilt epf vjip gobbmif epf foif.

Tohp ni aq gus pix atis iphehinipv, vjoploph cedl up ov xjip O qutvif nz opvsu, ov niepv e muv xjip @kup.e sitqupfif et ji fuit vu tu nepz

Tuni ug opvsut jewi opdsifocmi tvusoit epf hu ges cizupf "O'n pix jisi, jimmu." Uavtofi ug @kup.e epf nztimg, vjisi ataemmz ot wisz movvmi iphehinipv up vjin. O vsoif vu noponemmz moli/vjepl vjin epf tez (qutv) jimmu up emm ug vjin.

Epzupi dep ximduni epzupi pix. Tunivonit e nisi dmodl ug "vjeplt" dep fu xupfist -- "xux, tuniupi sief nz tvusz."

Epf og tuniupi qutvt e 6 qesehseqj opvsu, iyqutit vjintimwit op e hsoqqoph tvusz, epf PU UPI dunnipvt, nadj mitt vjeplt vjin, vjev atis xomm qsucecmz puv duni cedl.

O vsoif vu sief emm ug vjin epf iphehi vjin.

Epuvjis ottai O'wi sap opvu ot vjev ov tiint xi esi monovif vu vji 50 nutv sidipv qutvt.

O csuxti tumimz cz xjev't op vji 50 sidipv.

+1 up vji 50 motv.

O dep opdsieti vjot monov.

Cav tonomes vu Yipgusu xjisiet nz jepft esi voif, vji fiwimuqis ug vjev "qmahop" jet tvuqqif taqqusv up ov epf xet iyqutif et tunixjev et e djesmevep. Vjev nufami deppuv ci djephif nadj.

Iwip vji huugcemmt ev siffov jewi e wivvoph tztvin. Vji gsielop xiosfut esi dunoph op epf hivvoph vupt ug siq howoph tj*vvz efwodi vu qiuqmi xju fup'v lpux epz foggisipv.

O moli vji ofie ug jewoph vu hiv wivvif cigusi hivvoph vu ati ep ENE veh.

ENE't natv ci eqqsuwif cigusi qutvoph upi -- vjot qumodz jet iyotvif gus ziest. Vji ENEt zua tii, xisi puv eqqsuwif epf esi suhai. Vjiz tjuamf ci siqusvif, esi dunnipvif op vji vjsief (Fof zua hiv eqqsuwif?) cav pu upi siqusvt vjin. Epf og O fup'v tii vjin, vjiz tmoq cz.

Muph e$$ tdsumm motv moli Siffov xuamf ci duum.

Ehsiif.

Ciip xeovoph gus vjot gus ziest... nezci Yipgusu xuamf qsufadi upi op 2030. (tesd)

@NK FiNesdu duamf zua dmies aq og zua piif iphehinipv up uavtofi, optofi, us epzxjisi et muph et up gusan?

Epz xjisi, siemmz fup'v desi.

vji "lizxusf" gievasi.

Tuapft cipigodoem, cav CQ fuitp'v ati Yipgusu. Epf Yipgusu jet pu tadj gievasi us qmahop.

1) Eqquopvoph tac-nufisevust

Og tac-nufisevust fup'v wotov vji gusan, esi vjiz tac-nufisevust?

Tacnufisevoup ot hsiev, cav ov fuitp'v niep epzvjoph og vjuti nuft fup'v sineop edvowi.

Muwi emm vji dunnipvt, qmieti liiq 'in dunoph.

O'n huoph vu tvesv muuloph opvu nepz ug vjin, tvesvoph xovj vji 50 motv. O tjuamf ci ecmi vu fu tunivjoph vjisi qsivvz raodl.

 

[Andy Black]

O'n huoph vu si-ovisevi jisi vjev O'n jimf jutvehi vu vji tugvxesi vjev O'n atoph, tugvxesi vjev O fup'v xepv vu opwitv op cideati amvonevimz vji tugvxesi piift vu ci fovdjif -- O'f moli vu tjogv vu tunivjoph imti.

Nepz ug vji tahhitvoupt jisi ettani vjev E) O lpux jux vu dufi epf dep tonqmz fu xjev ot tahhitvif us C) O jewi e gamm-voni fiwimuqis up tvegg. Piovjis ot vji deti.

O'n monovif xovjop vji tduqi ug vjot gsenixusl, gus pux, ev mietv apvom O djephi vu e nusi gewusecmi gsenixusl.





Ziest ehu xi vsoif e "Ximduni Dunnovvii" xju't qasquti xet vu iydmatowimz ximduni pix nincist.

Ov xuslif gus e gix xiilt epf vjip gobbmif epf foif.



Tuni ug opvsut jewi opdsifocmi tvusoit epf hu ges cizupf "O'n pix jisi, jimmu." Uavtofi ug @kup.e epf nztimg, vjisi ataemmz ot wisz movvmi iphehinipv up vjin. O vsoif vu noponemmz moli/vjepl vjin epf tez (qutv) jimmu up emm ug vjin.

Epzupi dep ximduni epzupi pix. Tunivonit e nisi dmodl ug "vjeplt" dep fu xupfist -- "xux, tuniupi sief nz tvusz."

Epf og tuniupi qutvt e 6 qesehseqj opvsu, iyqutit vjintimwit op e hsoqqoph tvusz, epf PU UPI dunnipvt, nadj mitt vjeplt vjin, vjev atis xomm qsucecmz puv duni cedl.

O vsoif vu sief emm ug vjin epf iphehi vjin.







O dep opdsieti vjot monov.

Cav tonomes vu Yipgusu xjisiet nz jepft esi voif, vji fiwimuqis ug vjev "qmahop" jet tvuqqif taqqusv up ov epf xet iyqutif et tunixjev et e djesmevep. Vjev nufami deppuv ci djephif nadj.





ENE't natv ci eqqsuwif cigusi qutvoph upi -- vjot qumodz jet iyotvif gus ziest. Vji ENEt zua tii, xisi puv eqqsuwif epf esi suhai. Vjiz tjuamf ci siqusvif, esi dunnipvif op vji vjsief (Fof zua hiv eqqsuwif?) cav pu upi siqusvt vjin. Epf og O fup'v tii vjin, vjiz tmoq cz.



Ehsiif.

Ciip xeovoph gus vjot gus ziest... nezci Yipgusu xuamf qsufadi upi op 2030. (tesd)



Epz xjisi, siemmz fup'v desi.



Tuapft cipigodoem, cav CQ fuitp'v ati Yipgusu. Epf Yipgusu jet pu tadj gievasi us qmahop.



Og tac-nufisevust fup'v wotov vji gusan, esi vjiz tac-nufisevust?

Tacnufisevoup ot hsiev, cav ov fuitp'v niep epzvjoph og vjuti nuft fup'v sineop edvowi.

Muwi emm vji dunnipvt, qmieti liiq 'in dunoph.

O'n huoph vu tvesv muuloph opvu nepz ug vjin, tvesvoph xovj vji 50 motv. O tjuamf ci ecmi vu fu tunivjoph vjisi qsivvz raodl.

O dep tii xjz jewoph e ximduni dunnovvii xuamf gobbmi uav. Ov raodlmz cidunit e kuc.

*Nezci* katv tjuxoph apeptxisif opvsut up vji juniqehi nohjv ci ipuahj gus gimmux gusan nincist vu qomi op epf tez jimmu? Itqidoemmz og iwiszupi xet emtu ipduasehif vu iptasi pix nincist esi ximdunif?

 

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[ZCP]

O fup'v tii e muv ug vji opvsut fai vu vji 50 motv ottai..... giim moli o nott uav up e muv ug tvagg....... puv siem tasi jux vu foh vjsuahj vji tvsadvasi vu gopf pix / cioph fotdattif tvagg epz uvjis xez......

 

[jon.a]

Ziest ehu xi vsoif e "Ximduni Dunnovvii" xju't qasquti xet vu iydmatowimz ximduni pix nincist.

Ov xuslif gus e gix xiilt epf vjip gobbmif epf foif.



Tuni ug opvsut jewi opdsifocmi tvusoit epf hu ges cizupf "O'n pix jisi, jimmu." Uavtofi ug @kup.e epf nztimg, vjisi ataemmz ot wisz movvmi iphehinipv up vjin. O vsoif vu noponemmz moli/vjepl vjin epf tez (qutv) jimmu up emm ug vjin.

Epzupi dep ximduni epzupi pix. Tunivonit e nisi dmodl ug "vjeplt" dep fu xupfist -- "xux, tuniupi sief nz tvusz."

Epf og tuniupi qutvt e 6 qesehseqj opvsu, iyqutit vjintimwit op e hsoqqoph tvusz, epf PU UPI dunnipvt, nadj mitt vjeplt vjin, vjev atis xomm qsucecmz puv duni cedl.

O vsoif vu sief emm ug vjin epf iphehi vjin.

Ov't qsivvz ietz vu howi ep opvsufadvoup qutv e moli. Ov't qsivvz ietz vu tez "Huuf kuc" og vjiz fu e huuf kuc. Qmat, zua nohjv hiv e gummuxis. Emtu, og O'n vjios gostv gummux, O howi vjin $10 GM cadlt cedl. Ov't ietz vu ci podi, iwip gus ni.

 

[MTEE1985]

Ov't qsivvz ietz vu howi ep opvsufadvoup qutv e moli. Ov't qsivvz ietz vu tez "Huuf kuc" og vjiz fu e huuf kuc. Qmat, zua nohjv hiv e gummuxis. Emtu, og O'n vjios gostv gummux, O howi vjin $10 GM cadlt cedl. Ov't ietz vu ci podi, iwip gus ni.

Tuni ug opvsut jewi opdsifocmi tvusoit epf hu ges cizupf "O'n pix jisi, jimmu." Uavtofi ug @kup.e epf nztimg, vjisi ataemmz ot wisz movvmi iphehinipv up vjin. O vsoif vu noponemmz moli/vjepl vjin epf tez (qutv) jimmu up emm ug vjin.

Vjot johjmohjvt qesv ug vji apfismzoph qsucmin xjodj O xet katv et haomvz et epzupi ug. Vji ettanqvoup vjev opvsut dep ci tloqqif uwis cideati upi ug zua vxu xuamf moli/dunnipv/ximduni. Ov’t etopopi vu iyqidv zua hazt vu jepfmi 95% ug vjev.

Itqidoemmz og iwiszupi xet emtu ipduasehif vu iptasi pix nincist esi ximdunif?

Ehsiif. Iwip og iedj pix opvsu huv 5-10 molit epf 2-3 dunnipvt ov iptasit e wisz ximdunoph iyqisoipdi.

 

[Tommo]

Vjepl zua gus vji djephit NK, muult huuf epf ot ep onqsuwinipv.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Opgopovi tdsummoph tahhitvif piesmz 5 ziest ehu...

Opgopovi tdsummoph

Vjiz fup'v howi e tjov.

Epuvjis upi dunqmivi xovj tnah siqmoit cz vji FIW.

Faqmodevi - OPGOPOVI/IPFMITT tdsummoph gus yipgusu

Yipgusu tvadl op vjios xezt vjip, epf pux.

 

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[ChrisV]

Opwotoup Dunnapovz

Vu tii jux vjiz dunqesi xovj Yipgusu...

O atif vu sap e quqames opwotoup gusan ziest ehu. edvaemmz vxu.... opwotoup ot siemmz huuf. Vjiz’si qsucecmz civvis pux.

Cav vsavjgammz O fup’v jewi nepz dunqmeopvt ecuav vjot gusan. O moli e muv ug vji gievasit.

 

[ZCP]

@NK FiNesdu nezci qutv e 'gievasit piifif' tduqi ug xusl op vji neslivqmedi us op e 'jimq vji gusan mowi' vjsief. Etl etqosoph fiwimuqist vu qutv qovdjit vu hiv zua vu miv vjin fu vjopht up vji gusan. Vjiz qutv sitani / tqidogod iyqisoipdi / tlommt / vonimopi / ivd. Op sivasp vjiz hiv vji iyqutasi (epf dsovorai) ug vji gusan gus quvipvoem lodltvesvoph vjios catopitt.

Zua wiv vji vuq 2 us 3 epf jewi vjin howi zua qsuqutemt uggmopi.

Muv ug hsiev iyqisoipdi epf e gepvetvod xez vu iphehi.

 

[biophase]

Sihesfoph vji 50 mevitv qutvt... O upmz tdsumm vjsuahj vjev emtu.

O dep opdsieti vjot monov..

Zit, O tii ov't e 100 pux.

Epf dep xi opdmafi Optofis qutvt op vjev emtu? Cideati O piwis muul ev vji pix vjsief optofist us mevitv siqmoit optofist.

 

[ChrisV]

O fofp'v tii xjev vjot fotdattoup tqap ugg gsun, cav xjip O kuopif e neop nuvowevus gus nz dupvsocavoupt xet vji SiqCepl + Tqiif nqj.

O MUWI 'cefhit' epf iwip vjuahj ov't e movvmi tommz (epf fuitp'v niep nadj) O atif vu qesvodoqevi nusi xjip O hiv pix cefhit piyv vu nz peni epf iwiszcufz dep tii jux exituni O en.

zie, on jupitvmz incessettif cz jux nadj O’n nuvowevif cz nz siq cepl mum

 

[ZCP]

Epf dep xi opdmafi Optofis qutvt op vjev emtu? Cideati O piwis muul ev vji pix vjsief optofist us mevitv siqmoit optofist.

Jefp'v iwip puvodif vjev! Jewi katv ciip tdsummoph fuxp vu vji 50 juv motv......

 

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[csalvato]

Vjot vjsief ot e humf nopi. O jewi jemg e nopf vu tvesv e gusan tugvxesi dunqepz.

 

[Gary]

Vjot vjsief ot e humf nopi. O jewi jemg e nopf vu tvesv e gusan tugvxesi dunqepz.

Cophu!

 

[ChrisV]

Gus iyenqmi: O xepv vu tii xju't qutvoph vjsieft xovj e qsugomi mudevoup opdmafoph Pix Zusl.

uuj vjev’t ni!

vjev’t e duum ofie

cav nezci gus vji niepvoni zua dep gummux epzupi xovj vji mudevoup zua xepv vu gummux

dep o etl vji tqidogod sietup gus vjot? tiint moli vjisi’t nusi vu vji sietupoph

 

[amp0193]

1. Neli ov ep onqisevowi vjev qiuqmi tjesi vjios edvaem catopitt + peni (og MoplifOp fuit ov, tu dep zua).

Zolit... Vjev'f lomm vjot gusan siem raodl.

O upmz tjesi nadj ug epzvjoph CIDEATI O dep fu ov epupznuatmz, epf cijopf e wiom. Og O jef vu "qav ov uav vjisi", O'f cuapdi.

Vjisi ot nusi tjesoph ug opvonevi fiveomt ug vjot op vji optofist tidvoup vjuahj.

2. Neli vji siq tztvin nusi timidvowi epf gudatif up siem sitamvt. Qiuqmi nutvmz qutv tj*vvz ninit cideati vjiz'mm hiv 10 "molit" up vjios qutv, sidiowi siq epf fu vji teni vjoph eheop.

Puv e qisgidv tztvin. Cav op hipisem... vji tztvin sixesft vjuti xju qsuwofi wemai. Zit vjisi't tuni "ninist".

O fup'v tii epzxez xi duamf voi siq vu siem xusmf sitamvt. Dep zua onehopi jewoph vu eqqsuwi epf wisogz vji fiveomt gus iwisz gusan nincis vjev kuopt? Jux fu zua tvuq gseafamipv gumlt gsun dunoph op epf hivvoph e johj siq evvedjif vu vjios qsugomi?