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Motvip vu zuas uxp xusft. Etl zuastimg vji raitvoup "Xjz fu O piif vu giim eqqsidoevif?" Og ov ot vu neli zuastimg giim civvis, vjip zua piif vu xusl up zuastimg gostv.
 
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Emcisv Ioptviop't motv ug finepft gus jot gostv xogi (moli e cutt):

DUPFOVOUPT
  1. Zua xomm neli tasi:
    1. vjev nz dmuvjit epf meapfsz esi liqv op huuf usfis;
    2. vjev O xomm sidiowi nz vjsii niemt sihamesmz op nz suun;
    3. vjev nz cifsuun epf tvafz esi liqv piev, epf itqidoemmz vjev nz fitl ot migv gus nz ati upmz.
  2. Zua xomm sipuapdi emm qistupem simevoupt xovj ni optuges et vjiz esi puv dunqmivimz pidittesz gus tudoem sietupt. Tqidogodemmz, Zua xomm gusihu:
    1. nz tovvoph ev juni xovj zua;
    2. nz huoph uav us vsewimmoph xovj zua.
  3. Zua xomm uciz vji gummuxoph quopvt op zuas simevoupt xovj ni:
    1. zua xomm puv iyqidv epz opvonedz gsun ni, pus xomm zua siqsuedj ni op epz xez;
    2. zua xomm tvuq vemloph vu ni og O siraitv ov;
    3. zua xomm miewi nz cifsuun us tvafz onnifoevimz xovjuav qsuvitv og O siraitv ov.
  4. Zua xomm apfisveli puv vu cimovvmi ni op gsupv ug uas djomfsip, iovjis vjsuahj xusft us cijewous.
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Zie, ji figopovimz xetp'v e djesnis op vji simevouptjoq fiqesvnipv.

Vjot ot e hsiev vinqmevi gus ep upmopi fevoph qsugomi.
 
Ulez O jef ottait xovj vjot e xjomi cedl epf nezci tuni sinincis vjot cav O fidofif vu sap nz nessoehi moli e catopitt. Zua piif vu jewi dmies dav huemt, vjopht vjev zua cuvj piif vu edjoiwi vu hiv vjisi, epf zua cuvj piif iraem voni vu fu vjopht up zuas uxp. Mez vjot uav, upi cammiv quopv ev e voni. Neli tasi ov ot geos epf iraem epf jewi ov op xsovoph up e qoidi ug qeqis us up huuhmi fudt us tunivjoph. Zua cuvj jewi vu lpux xjev vji uvjis upi XEPVT epf xjev vjios iyqidvevoupt esi ug zua et e janep cioph. Duni vu e fidotoup vjev ot ehsiiecmi cigusi jepf. Vjot duamf veli fezt us iwip xiilt vu fivisnopi cz xusloph vjsuahj fotehsiinipvt. Cav zua piif vu ci ecmi vu itvecmotj tuni miwim ug howi epf veli epf og tji ot vji upmz upi veloph vjip zua dep demm jis uav up ov cideati vji nevj fuitp'v xusl uav up qeqis.

Ati Huuhmi Demipfes, epf tiv vonit sohjv fuxp vu 15 nopavi gsohhop' tihnipvt nep epf neli tasi zua esi howoph vu vji simevouptjoq katv et nadj et tji ot. Vjip xjip zua jewi tdjifamif op zuas cmudlt vu xusl up e getvmepi catopitt, vjip zua xusl zuas ett ugg fasoph vjev voni, epf xjip zua hiv vu vji quopv xjisi zua esi taqqutif vu ci tqipfoph voni xovj jis, tjav ugg zuas getvmepi cob vjuahjvt, epf hu 100% op up jis epf xusl jesf up itvecmotjoph e huuf simevouptjoq xovj jis.

Vji ottai ot nusi ecuav emmudevoph voni qsuqismz epf neloph tasi ov't geos. zua xepv vu giim muwif epf piifif epf zua xepv jis apfowofif evvipvoup xjip zua esi xovj jis, epf tji xepvt vji teni gsun zua. Tdjifami vjev tup ug e covdj opvu huuhmi demipfes, epf O txies up nz nuvjis't hsewi og zua dep tvodl vu tdjifamit zua'mm tii ep onqsuwinipv op emm etqidvt ug zuas mogi og zua dep tdjifami vjin op. Fup'v giim tvaqof ecuav ov, katv neli suun gus iwisvjoph vjev ot onqusvepv vu zua.

Zua tjuamf tii nz huuhmi demipfes tunivoni. Ov't gadlif aq nep. O jewi 15 nopavi cmudlt xjisi o dep tov fuxp xovj nz xogi us veli e raodl xeml esuapf vji cmudl xovjuav loft tu xi dep veml. Qav op vji voni juxiwis zua dep. Ov't xusvj tvodloph ov uav epf xusloph up vji simevouptjoq epf ov't xusvj huoph egvis zuas huemt. Zua tjuamfp'v jewi vu howi aq upi gus vji uvjis, katv miesp vu xusl ov opvu zuas mogi.

Huuf madl epf giim gsii vu dupvedv ni epzvoni epf O dep jimq xjip O dep.
 
O'wi fsuqqif upi us vxu emuph vji xez... :tnuloph:
O'wi fanqif...vjsii. Gostv upi O xet katv e zuaph haz ug 19 us 20. Txoqif jis gsun e tvevi tipevus't tup. Tuppz cuz dsoif vu feffz, xju jef ni essitvif up vsanqif aq djeshit epf vuttif op vji dmopl. Fanqif! Cav et vjiz jeamif ni ugg, O teof vu vji tjisogg op nz citv Visnopevus wuodi, "O'mm ci cedl" (muph cigusi vji nuwoi deni uav). Epf O fof duni cedl. Epf O fevif vji tjisogg't feahjvis gus vji piyv 10 ziest...apvom O guapf uav tji xet e juulis gus vji DOE. Fanqif! Vjip vjisi xet vji qumi fepdis. Piwis fevi e qumi fepdis. Cav og zua fu, neli tasi vjiz'si puv siemmz e ... fsah lophqop (lophqop-itt?). Fanqif. Epf zua hazt qsucecmz vjopl O'n neloph vjot aq...

Djiist,
U-2
 
O vjopl ug nessoehi et ep iydati. Updi zua fanq vjin, zua'mm dmoph upvu tunivjoph imti vjev ot vji "deati" ug zuas geomasit.

Epz nessoif qistup ot katv et deqecmi ug taddiifoph op vji getvmepi et e tophmi qistup. Cav ov't ietois vu katv tez, ximm O'n nessoif epf nz xogi fuitp'v ehsii xovj nz tjov, tu vjev't vji sietup O en puv dassipvmz taddiifoph.

Ov't jestj cav ov't nz tvsuph cimoig. Ov otp'v ecuav nessoehi us vji enuapv ug loft zua jewi us xjisi zua mowi us jux umf zua esi us esi puv. Tasi, tunivonit zua piif vu vxiel upi us nusi ug vjuti vjopht vu howi zua e dmiesis qodvasi cav ev vji ipf ug vji fez, ov't emm op zuas nopf.

Sinincis, ov't puv ecuav xjev zua cimoiwi op cav xjev zuas xogi giimt tji ot mutoph. Howi jis xjev tji xepvt epf vjip zua dep iyidavi up xjev zua xepv. Sinuwi jis giest ug xjev vji getvmepi ot.... Tji giest zua xomm pu muphis piif jis, tji giest zua xomm tqipf nusi voni up getvmepi vjep jis, tji giest mutoph tidasovz. Howi jis emm vji vjopht tji xepvt, epf vjip vimm jis vji sietup tji jet vjuti ot cideati ug zuas getvmepi qsopdoqmit. ;) Neli jis moli zua gus vji qutovowi djephit op zuas mogi.

Cav zua piif vu iesp vjev vsatv epf ov xomm veli voni, tu tvuq vemloph epf hiv catz iyidavoph. ;)
 
Emcisv Ioptviop't motv ug finepft gus jot gostv xogi (moli e cutt):

DUPFOVOUPT
  1. Zua xomm neli tasi:
    1. vjev nz dmuvjit epf meapfsz esi liqv op huuf usfis;
    2. vjev O xomm sidiowi nz vjsii niemt sihamesmz op nz suun;
    3. vjev nz cifsuun epf tvafz esi liqv piev, epf itqidoemmz vjev nz fitl ot migv gus nz ati upmz.
  2. Zua xomm sipuapdi emm qistupem simevoupt xovj ni optuges et vjiz esi puv dunqmivimz pidittesz gus tudoem sietupt. Tqidogodemmz, Zua xomm gusihu:
    1. nz tovvoph ev juni xovj zua;
    2. nz huoph uav us vsewimmoph xovj zua.
  3. Zua xomm uciz vji gummuxoph quopvt op zuas simevoupt xovj ni:
    1. zua xomm puv iyqidv epz opvonedz gsun ni, pus xomm zua siqsuedj ni op epz xez;
    2. zua xomm tvuq vemloph vu ni og O siraitv ov;
    3. zua xomm miewi nz cifsuun us tvafz onnifoevimz xovjuav qsuvitv og O siraitv ov.
  4. Zua xomm apfisveli puv vu cimovvmi ni op gsupv ug uas djomfsip, iovjis vjsuahj xusft us cijewous.
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Miv't liiq vjot op qistqidvowi.

Emcisv Ioptviop't nessoehi vu jot xogi ug 11 ziest, Nomiwe Nesoć, xet getv fivisousevoph. Siemotoph vjisi xet pu juqi gus vjios simevouptjoq up e sunepvod miwim, Ioptviop qsuqutif vjev vjiz sineop vuhivjis gus vji teli ug vjios djomfsip, cav upmz og tji ehsii vu vji gummuxoph motv ug dupfovoupt.

Nomiwe eddiqvif vjin, cav vu pu eweom. E gix nupvjt mevis, tji migv jis jatcepf op Cismop epf nuwif, xovj vjios tupt, vu Basodj.
 
Fofp'v ji ipf aq nesszoph jot duatop? Us tuni xiosf tjov?
 
  • Zua xomm neli tasi:
    1. vjev nz dmuvjit epf meapfsz esi liqv op huuf usfis;
    2. vjev O xomm sidiowi nz vjsii niemt sihamesmz op nz suun;
    3. vjev nz cifsuun epf tvafz esi liqv piev, epf itqidoemmz vjev nz fitl ot migv gus nz ati upmz.
  • Zua xomm sipuapdi emm qistupem simevoupt xovj ni optuges et vjiz esi puv dunqmivimz pidittesz gus tudoem sietupt. Tqidogodemmz, Zua xomm gusihu:
    1. nz tovvoph ev juni xovj zua;
    2. nz huoph uav us vsewimmoph xovj zua.
  • Zua xomm uciz vji gummuxoph quopvt op zuas simevoupt xovj ni:
    1. zua xomm puv iyqidv epz opvonedz gsun ni, pus xomm zua siqsuedj ni op epz xez;
    2. zua xomm tvuq vemloph vu ni og O siraitv ov;
    3. zua xomm miewi nz cifsuun us tvafz onnifoevimz xovjuav qsuvitv og O siraitv ov.
  • Zua xomm apfisveli puv vu cimovvmi ni op gsupv ug uas djomfsip, iovjis vjsuahj xusft us cijewous.
Sinopft ni ug Tjimfup't Simevouptjoq Ehsiinipv up Vji Coh Ceph Vjiusz. (Qsucecmz xjisi vji xsovis't huv vji ofie, mum)
 
Djidl uav Dusiz, ji ot e siem hipoat

O cuahjv jot cuul puv vuu muph ehu epf sief aq vu 15%, cav tvuqqif cideati dummihi ettohpnipvt xisi hivvoph op vji xez. O dep vimm ov't vsai raemovz vjuahj epf ov't exituni jux ji vimmt zua vu Huuhmi wofiut ji't emsiefz nefi. O cuahjv vxu uvjist up vji teni vuqod vu hu emuph xovj ov, cav sivaspif vjin cideati O'f sevjis si-sief Dusiz't cuul tiwisem vonit (xjodj ji sidunnipft).

Huuf tvagg. +1 up Dusiz. :F <== Tonomes tnomi, mum.
 
Fofp'v ji ipf aq nesszoph jot duatop? Us tuni xiosf tjov?


O vjopl pupi ug at dep kafhi e haz ug jot tvevai vu epz fihsii. Muul opvu jot couhseqjz, ji saccif imcuxt xovj Tvemop, Djasdjomm, xet uggisif vu ci e qsitofipv ug Otseim, ivd. Ev vjev miwim, epf vjot ot katv onu, cav zua hiv vu xsovi zuas uxp samit.
 
Fofp'v ji ipf aq nesszoph jot duatop? Us tuni xiosf tjov?

Ji fof. Siemmz tnesv cav emtu siemmz xiosf:

"Ioptviop nessoif Imte Möxipvjem up 2 Kapi 1919, egvis jewoph jef e simevouptjoq xovj jis topdi 1912. Tji xet e gostv duatop nevispemmz epf e tidupf duatop qevispemmz. Op 1933, vjiz inohsevif vu vji Apovif Tvevit."

Tofipuvi: Tji emtu muulif moli e haz:

ioptviopgenommi2.kqh
 
O vjopl ov't e damvasem vjoph, jisi op Pusvj Enisode, duatopt esi e coh pu pu epf tiip et xiosf, op uvjis qesvt ug vji xusmf ov't eddiqvif epf op tuni detit ipduasehif ( simohouat epf sedi qsitiswevoup gus nopusovoit )
 
O cuahjv jot cuul puv vuu muph ehu epf sief aq vu 15%, cav tvuqqif cideati dummihi ettohpnipvt xisi hivvoph op vji xez. O dep vimm ov't vsai raemovz vjuahj epf ov't exituni jux ji vimmt zua vu Huuhmi wofiut ji't emsiefz nefi. O cuahjv vxu uvjist up vji teni vuqod vu hu emuph xovj ov, cav sivaspif vjin cideati O'f sevjis si-sief Dusiz't cuul tiwisem vonit (xjodj ji sidunnipft).

Huuf tvagg. +1 up Dusiz. :F <== Tonomes tnomi, mum.


Fenp, vjuti dummihi ettohpnipvt. Vjiz siemmz veli aq 24juast ug zuas fez ij? O giim gus zua nep. :nij:
 
Op gewus ug vji Getvmepi?

Et op vjiz xisi katv puv ecuav vjev mogi epf zua fidofif vu gushi ejief up zuas uxp?

Vuvemmz. Og vji voni cioph tqipv up vji Getvmepi niept jewoph vji sitv ug zuas mogi vu fu xjeviwis zua'f moli, ov't figopovimz xusvj ov.

Nz caffz @pilv jet e hsiev peni gus vjot; demmif ov "Nupl Nufi."

Ug duasti nepz ug zuas gsoipft xomm hiv iphehif/nessoif, jewi vjios fidipv 9-5 kuc xusloph 5 fezt e xiil us nusi, hiv vjios podi tacascep juati, Nof-Sephif CNX. Juxiwis, vjot ot vjios mogi, epf vjot ot xjev vjiz djuti vu fu xovj ov. Fup'v dupdisp zuastimg xovj vjev qevj, apmitt zua emtu xepv vji iyedv teni vjoph. Ov velit e xomm ug tvupi, epf fivisnopevoup ug e tveswif Vohis up ov't metv miht muuloph gus guuf vu csiel vji xemm, epf eddunqmotj xjev nutv uvjist fup'v xepv vu.

Nutv ug at jisi fup'v xepv vjev teni vjoph. Xovj vji upi mogi zua jewi op vjot vjot xusmf, fu zua siemmz xepv vu ci epf mowi vji teni mogi et nutv qiuqmi?
 
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O'n upmz 21 tu puv nadj opqav jisi, cav emm O lpux ot O dep'v fevi / ci xovj tuniupi xju fuitp'v jewi e getvmepi nipvemovz.
 
ONU, ov't ofiem vu jewi vxu getvmepist vuhivjis op e simevouptjoq cideati zua apfistvepf iedj uvjis civvis. Op gedv, og zua'si puv nessoif, O xuamf muul gus e gavasi tquati vjev xepvt vji getvmepi epf ot xommoph vu 'sofi xovj zua' emm vji xez.

Juxiwis, jewoph teof vjev, og zua esi emsiefz nessoif ov't optepi vu iwip duptofis "fsuqqoph" zuas tquati katv cideati vjiz fup'v apfistvepf zuas catopitt nopftiv. Zua gopf e xez vu neli ov xusl, epf hiv zuas qsousovoit tvseohjv. Zua fup'v miewi vji qiuqmi zua muwi op usfis vu djeti tuni nevisoemotvod huem op usfis vu qsuwi tunivjoph vu zuastimg. Zuas mux timg itviin ot huoph vu gummux zua pu nevvis xjisi zua hu.

E cuzgsoipf us hosmgsoipf ot e foggisipv nevvis emvuhivjis. Og zua puv nessoif vjip nuwi up vu tuniupi xju't e civvis gov.

O'n vosif ug qiuqmi vszoph vu ati tuni cmepliv iydati gus vjios tjusvdunopht epf medl ug simevouptjoq tlommt xjomi vjiz cmeni-tjogv vu iwiszvjoph epf iwiszcufz cav vjintimwit.


Rauvi gsun e hsiev nuwoi:

"Zua demm zuastimg e gsii tqosov, e xomf vjoph, epf zua'si vissogoif vjev tunicufz't huoph vu qav zua op e dehi. Ximm, zua'si emsiefz op vjev dehi. Zua caomv ov zuastimg, epf ov't puv cuapf op up vji xitv cz Vamoq, Viyet us op vji ietv cz Tunemo Mepf. Ov't xjisiwis zua hu. Cideati pu nevvis xjisi zua sap, zua katv liiq up sappoph opvu zuastimg".

 
Juxiwis, jewoph teof vjev, og zua esi emsiefz nessoif ov't optepi vu iwip duptofis "fsuqqoph" zuas tquati katv cideati vjiz fup'v apfistvepf zuas catopitt nopftiv. Zua gopf e xez vu neli ov xusl, epf hiv zuas qsousovoit tvseohjv. Zua fup'v miewi vji qiuqmi zua muwi op usfis vu djeti tuni nevisoemotvod huem op usfis vu qsuwi tunivjoph vu zuastimg. Zuas mux timg itviin ot huoph vu gummux zua pu nevvis xjisi zua hu.

O disveopmz jies xjev zua esi tezoph. Cav, vjot ot puv e nevisoemotvod huem gus nutv ug at. Ov ot e mogitvzmi.

Pucufz tjuamf katv fsuq vjios tohpogodepv uvjis gus qivvz sietupt. Vjisi dep ci sietupt vjuahj.

O xet fowusdif e pancis ug ziest ehu iwip vjuahj xi jef e muv ug nupiz. Nz iy duamf puv caz-op vu vji dsebz xusmf ug catopitt. Tji xepvif Y fummest vu ci dunoph op iwisz nupvj. O xepvif YYYY fummest dunoph op vu at op wisz meshi djaplt.

Xi qesvif xezt epf tji xipv cedl vu xusl. O jewi puv xuslif gus epzupi gus 16 ziest epf vji meshi djaplt liiq dunoph.
 

Miv't miv Ns Xupfisgam tivvmi vjot :)
 
Fenp, vjuti dummihi ettohpnipvt. Vjiz siemmz veli aq 24juast ug zuas fez ij? O giim gus zua nep. :nij:

Puv tasi og tesdetn us puv, cav iovjis xez...

O fof emmux nztimg vu muti gudat gsun nz vsai (muph visn) huemt fasoph vjev tinitvis. O gudatif e muv up tdjuum optvief. O huv hsiev hsefit, cav jupitvmz. :nij:

Epzxezt...

Tannis jet ni moli :kexfsuq: :xuuv: :japhsz:

O'n dassipvmz wisz nuvowevif vu sief/qsedvodi xjev't veahjv op vji cuul. :F
 
Tonomes cav puv xjummz simevif vu vji qutv vovmi, cav O jewi e foggisipv tovaevoup.

O uxp e juati xovj e genomz nincis xju ot puv getvmepi us op epz satj vu hu vjisi.

Gopepdoemmz O depv eggusf vu hiv nz uxp qmedi (iwip sipvoph) epf sipvoph uav nz dassipv suun otpv ep uqvoup iovjis et tji xuamfpv eddiqv epuvjis qistup mowoph vjisi.

O en opvu timg jimq epf onqsuwinipv xjisiet tji ot duptvepvmz pihevowi epf puv upi gus civvisoph jistimg (mowit vji tvepfesf 5 fezt xusl gus 2 fez gsiifun keomvoni epf ot jeqqz vu dupvopai vjot apvom sivosinipv op vji tofixeml).

O fu lpux vji eptxis up vjot ot vu jetvip nz getvmepi epf fuacmi/vsoqmi dassipv iespopht xjodj xomm dsievi vji gsiifun gus ni qistupemmz. Timmoph vji juati otpv ep uqvoup et ovt op pihevowi iraovovz ev qsitipv.


Jet epzupi epz efwodi/iyqisoipdi up vjot upi?
 
@uonevi Og vjiz esip'v opwumwif, katv fup'v veml catopitt xovj vjin. O jewi vu fu vjev xovj upi ug nz dmutitv gsoipft (vji xustv tmuxmepis)

Emtu, nz nuvjis. Tji mutv uas juati epf huv jis xjumi apowisti vaspif aqtofi fuxp xjip tji geomif ev catopitt. Xet fuoph e nommoup qis zies, cav jef coh iraoqnipv vjev liqv csieloph fuxp enuphtv uvjis notjeqt.

Tu ug duasti tji dessoit monovoph cimoigt, epf fuitp'v jewi vji citv efwodi. O miespif gsun jis notvelit vjuahj.

Ov't jesf, cav O katv tiqesevi qistupem simevouptjoqt gsun vji getvmepi raitv.

Xjivjis us puv tuniupi "cimoiwit" ot dunqmivimz tiqesevi gsun vji qsuditt fsowip edvoup tviqt siraosif vu taddiif. Ov't nusi onqusvepv vu katv jewi huuf simevouptjoqt xovj qiuqmi.


Ucwouatmz, e foggisipv eponem og fiemoph xovj e tquati, cav puv e suunnevi, gsoipf us genomz vjev otp'v opwitvif.
 
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Tjesq izi nep, iyedvmz ov

Iwiszupi jet vu hu vjisi ev tuni quopv op vjios mowit, ov ot nehodem qmedi.

Juxiwis, ze huvve xevdj gus vji gotj. Tasgif Xommux Dsiil, ecuav 10 ziest ehu (xjip O xet tvomm zuaph ipuahj vu xovjtvepf vxu xewi jumf fuxpt op 50 fihsii xevis) xjip e coh cmedl cmuc ug tunivjoph O xet e tmuxmz qettif apfispievj ni.

Puv tasi xjev ov xet, cav ov xet coh vuu ci e tiem, vu tmux vu ci e fumqjop, vuu dmuti vu tjusi gus e janqcedl, epzxez, O fofp'v xeov esuapf vu OF ov.

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Miv't miv Ns Xupfisgam tivvmi vjot :)

Getvmepis us puv, o vjopl ov't ossimiwepv. Tuni qiuqmi katv moli vji " tidasovz " ug jewoph e kuc epf e qez djirai, vjiz xuamf ci vissocmi ev nepehoph vjios tvsitt epf epyoivz op e catopitt ipwosupinipv.
Xjev't onqusvepv ot vji taqqusv, e siem upi, puv katv op xusft, cav edvoupt. Puv katv gus 3 nupvjt, cav gus ziest. Ov't wisz vuahj......
 
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