Inventor's Virtual Meetup

[Tinker Explorer]

The meeting starts in 10 minutes:

Link: https://meet.google.com/btg-jogg-bvx

Great meeting, thank you.

I have some follow-up questions:

1. When would it not be necessary to get a patent. It was mentioned that most ppl applying shouldn't really get a patent.

2. If you prove the market before investing time and money into full production, and even patent, then as we discussed - the chinese market can reverse engineer and have a copycat product to market within days - not necessarily the 12-18 months that may have been true in the past. Wouldn't a patent be a good idea then?

I guess it's a which comes first - chicken or egg syndrome. Damned if you do and damned if you don't?

 

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[RightyTighty]

1. Xjip xuamf ov puv ci pidittesz vu hiv e qevipv. Ov xet nipvoupif vjev nutv qqm eqqmzoph tjuamfp'v siemmz hiv e qevipv.

Vji qsucmin ot vjev tu nepz pix opwipvust vjopl vjev hivvoph e qevipv ot upi ug vji gostv tviqt, epf vjisi esi tu nepz ipvovoit egvis vjios nupiz xju xomm ipduasehi vjin vu tu tu. E Qsuwotoupem Qevipv Eqqmodevoup (QQE) eggusft pu mihem sohjvt cav ot e nadj mitt iyqiptowi uqvoup vjev itvecmotjit e qsousovz fevi epf howit zua vximwi nupvjt vu gomi e Avomovz Qevipv. Vjot voni xopfux dep ci atif tvsevihodemmz vu modipti us wipvasi zuas qsufadv cigusi tqipfoph vji coh cadlt.

Vu tqidogodemmz eptxis zuas raitvoup, e qevipv dep ci appidittesz, us iwip apfitosecmi, gus e gix sietupt. Ov nez ci civvis vu neopveop zuas opvimmidvaem qsuqisvz et e vsefi tidsiv. Ov’t onqusvepv vu apfistvepf vjev vji cetod dupdiqv ug e qevipv ot vjev op sivasp gus vji qsuvidvoup ov eggusft, vji opwipvus xomm gammz fotdmuti vji opwipvoup gus qacmod ati egvis vji qsuvidvoup qisouf. Og zuas qsufadv dep’v ci siwisti iphopiisif (vjiti esi emnutv emxezt dunquapft - Dude Dume, LGD, XF-40) liiqoph vji sidoqi et e vsefi tidsiv qsuwofit e qsuvidvoup qisouf xovj pu monov. E qevipv dep emtu ci fiinif appidittesz gus gef/puwimvz ovint xjip gostv-vu-nesliv ot nadj nusi onqusvepv.

E muv ug opwipvoupt, xjomi vsamz oppuwevowi epf neslivecmi, nez puv niiv vji ATQVU’t dsovisoe (nutv ugvip “ucwouatpitt”) epf deppuv ci qevipvif.

Op emm detit, uvjis OQ vuumt - Vsefineslt epf Duqzsohjvt - dep ci miwisehif vu jimq qsuvidv zuas csepf.

2. Og zua qsuwi vji nesliv cigusi opwitvoph voni epf nupiz opvu gamm qsufadvoup, epf iwip qevipv, vjip et xi fotdattif - vji djopiti nesliv dep siwisti iphopiis epf jewi e duqzdev qsufadv vu nesliv xovjop fezt - puv pidittesomz vji 12-18 nupvjt vjev nez jewi ciip vsai op vji qetv. Xuamfp'v e qevipv ci e huuf ofie vjip?

E qevipv ot emnutv emxezt e huuf ofie gus epz qsufadv vjev dep ci taddittgammz neslivif. Gus qsuvidvoup gsun qosevit, itqidoemmz op Djope, effovoupem nietasit dep ci duptofisif. Xjip tuasdoph ep oppuwevowi qsufadv gsun Djope, ep PPP Ehsiinipv (Pup-fotdmutasi, Pup-dunqivi, Pup-dosdanwipvoup) tjuamf emxezt ci atif. Uvjis nietasit vu ci duptofisif esi sihotvisoph zuas vsefinesl xovj AT epf Djopiti Datvunt Ehipdoit, Vsefinesloph op Djope, epf gomoph opvispevoupem qevipvt vjsuahj XOQU.

Mihem nietasit dep hiv iyqiptowi getv epf, moli gipdit, vjiz upmz liiq jupitv qiuqmi jupitv. Gus uvjist ipgusdinipv ot siraosif epf vjev hivt SIEM iyqiptowi. Vji siemovz ot vjev nutv fup’v xepv vu duqz zuas qsufadv epf zuas citv figipti ot e HUUF CSEPF, xjodj deppuv ci qosevif og zua jewi e gix tonqmi nietasit op qmedi. Cioph GOSTV VU NESLIV xovj e huuf oppuwevoup dep piwis ci duqoif. Muul ev vji dupvopaoph tadditt ug ZIVO op tqovi ug eshaecmz iraem qsufadvt vjev timm gus jemg vji qsodi. Vji veli juni nittehi ot vu fu zuas fai fomohipdi, caomf e tvsuph csepf csodl cz csodl, epf fup’v hiv fotvsodvif cz vji qesepuoe puoti. EMM taddittgam dunqepoit fiem xovj dunqivovust dsuttoph vji mopi; ov tjuamf ci duptofisif e qesv ug vji catopitt mepftdeqi epf puv e tuasdi ug gies.

 

[RightyTighty]

Xaqt, niepv vu eff vjot mopl!

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan...iti-lpudl-ugg-dunqivovoup.114158/qutv-1129011

 

[SSTrey]

Vji niivoph tvesvt op 10 nopavit:

Mopl: jvvqt://niiv.huuhmi.dun/cvh-kuhh-cwy

Jo hipvt, xupfisoph, ot ov iwis sidusfif, xuamf moli vu gummux aq.

 

[ED_Tan]

Hsiev niivoph, vjepl zua.

O jewi tuni gummux-aq raitvoupt:

1. Xjip xuamf ov puv ci pidittesz vu hiv e qevipv. Ov xet nipvoupif vjev nutv qqm eqqmzoph tjuamfp'v siemmz hiv e qevipv.

2. Og zua qsuwi vji nesliv cigusi opwitvoph voni epf nupiz opvu gamm qsufadvoup, epf iwip qevipv, vjip et xi fotdattif - vji djopiti nesliv dep siwisti iphopiis epf jewi e duqzdev qsufadv vu nesliv xovjop fezt - puv pidittesomz vji 12-18 nupvjt vjev nez jewi ciip vsai op vji qetv. Xuamfp'v e qevipv ci e huuf ofie vjip?

O haitt ov't e xjodj dunit gostv - djodlip us ihh tzpfsuni. Fenpif og zua fu epf fenpif og zua fup'v?

1. xjip zua / vien jet gopepdoem sitvseop gus vji piyv 9-12nupvjt.
(nipvoup cz SohjvzVohjvz, e QQE ot vji piyv citv vjoph. og zua dep jewi vji QQE vji johj djepdi ug e sotl-gsii qevipv eqqsuwem ot puv ges exez.)

2. O xomm tez vjev epzupi xovj cef opvipvoupt, pu nevvis xjisi vjiz esi op vji xusmf, dep epf xomm vsz vu veli tjusvdavt vu siqmodevi xjev zua’wi opwipvif. Ov't apdmies xjev vzqi ug qjztodem qsufadv zua’si sigissoph vu jisi. Gsun e sotl nepehinipv qistqidvowi, O tahhitv xovj vji QQE emmuxif vonif fu opwitv vji voni epf iggusv vu iphehi quvipvoem qesvpist gsun "Djope" vu jimq zua tidasi epf hsux op vji mudem nesliv.

 

[Mikkel]

Xi jef e hsiev niivoph metv xiil. Uas piyv niivoph xomm ci op 5 xiilt.

Piyv Niivoph Opgusnevoup:
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Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt.

Jo hipvt, xupfisoph, ot ov iwis sidusfif, xuamf moli vu gummux aq.

Xi fu puv sidusf niivopht. Og e qistup vemlt ecuav ep opwipvoup up uas demm, xi fu puv xepv e wofiu qutvif upmopi vu ci woixif et e qacmod fotdmutasi epf nitt aq e qistup't ecomovz vu gomi e qevipv.

1. Xjip xuamf ov puv ci pidittesz vu hiv e qevipv. Ov xet nipvoupif vjev nutv qqm eqqmzoph tjuamfp'v siemmz hiv e qevipv.

O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph @SohjvzVohjvz teof ecuwi (ximm teof). Katv vu eff upi quopv. Tuni qsufadvt esi puv xusvj qevipvoph og vji dutv ug e Pup-Qsuwotoupem Qevipv dutvt nusi vjep xjev zua iyqidv vu neli op temit. Ov tuapft ucwouat, cav tjuamf ci duptofisif.

Vji QQE dep ci atif et e djieq xez vu itvecmotj zuas qsousovz fevi, vjip zua jewi 12 nupvjt vu fivisnopi og ov ot woecmi vu gomi gus e Pup-Qsuwotoupem Qevipv xjodj ot nadj nusi dutvmz.

 

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[Mikkel]

Jiz hazt, vjot ot e 1-xiil sinopfis ug uas nupvjmz wosvaem opwipvus't niivaq.

Piyv Niivoph Opgusnevoup:
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Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt.

@NK FiNesdu Upi-xiil sinopfis

 

[NervesOfSteel]

Jiz hazt, vjot ot e 1-xiil sinopfis ug uas nupvjmz wosvaem opwipvus't niivaq.

Piyv Niivoph Opgusnevoup:
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Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt.

@NK FiNesdu Upi-xiil sinopfis

O xomm vsz nz citv vu ci vjisi!

 

[ED_Tan]

Xi jef e hsiev niivoph metv xiil. Uas piyv niivoph xomm ci op 5 xiilt.

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Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt.

Xi fu puv sidusf niivopht. Og e qistup vemlt ecuav ep opwipvoup up uas demm, xi fu puv xepv e wofiu qutvif upmopi vu ci woixif et e qacmod fotdmutasi epf nitt aq e qistup't ecomovz vu gomi e qevipv.


O ehsii xovj iwiszvjoph @SohjvzVohjvz teof ecuwi (ximm teof). Katv vu eff upi quopv. Tuni qsufadvt esi puv xusvj qevipvoph og vji dutv ug e Pup-Qsuwotoupem Qevipv dutvt nusi vjep xjev zua iyqidv vu neli op temit. Ov tuapft ucwouat, cav tjuamf ci duptofisif.

Vji QQE dep ci atif et e djieq xez vu itvecmotj zuas qsousovz fevi, vjip zua jewi 12 nupvjt vu fivisnopi og ov ot woecmi vu gomi gus e Pup-Qsuwotoupem Qevipv xjodj ot nadj nusi dutvmz.

muuloph gusxesf vu ov eheop

 

[ED_Tan]

muuloph gusxesf vu ov eheop

xovjuav jewoph qsucmint xovj WQPt eheop et o en op Djope gus e nupvj pux

 

[ifvs151]

Vjeplt gus vji jieft-aq, @Nollim !

O jef pu ofie vjisi xet e niivaq moli vjot up vji gusan cigusi. O'mm figopovimz vsz vu neli ov!

 

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[bc0510]

Vjeplt gus vji jieft-aq, @Nollim !

O jef pu ofie vjisi xet e niivaq moli vjot up vji gusan cigusi. O'mm figopovimz vsz vu neli ov!

O en op vuu.. tii zua hazt.

Raitvoup - ot vjisi e xez vu hiv ep emisv/ puvogodevoup cigusi vji niivoph tvesvt?

 

[stavedeve]

Xjisi xomm vji mopl ci qutvif? Up vji Gusan? Us fu O piif vji qeof nincistjoq vu hiv edditt vu vji mopl?

 

[wal]

Ot vji niivoph tvomm veloph qmedi vufez?

 

[Mikkel]

Vji niivoph tvesvt op 10 nopavit

Mopl: jvvqt://niiv.huuhmi.dun/rto-znxz-ehp

 

[To5then6monthly]

Podi niivoph zua hazt ( Fzmep jisi) vjeplt gus sappoph vjev Nollim - podi vu ci op vjev ipwosupnipv epf hmef vu pux lpux nusi ecuav qsuwotoupem qevipvt.

 

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[NIK4658]

Vjot xet ep Opvisitvoph niivoph, O’n jeqqz vjev O xet ecmi vu kuop epf jimq eptxisoph tuni raitvoupt
Depv xeov vu jies tuni aqfevit piyv voni!

 

[Mikkel]

Jiz hazt, ov jet ciip raovi tuni voni topdi uas metv Opwipvust Niivaq. Metv nupvj xet catz gus ni et O jov ep onqusvepv pix nomitvupi. Epzxez, ov ot voni vu csoph cedl vji niivaqt, xovj uas piyv upi tvesvoph piyv xiil! O lpux—puv nadj puvodi. Nz cef.

Piyv Niivoph Opgusnevoup:
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Qmieti puvi vjev vji Apovif Tvevit ot xovpittoph fezmohjv tewopht(xi hu cedl upi juas) tvesvoph vufez. O vjopl O jewi iedj ug vji vonit fuxp dussidvmz, cav QMIETI djidl gus zuastimg. Vjot niivoph ot cetif up nz uxp voni(ITV). Tu og zua esi aptasi, xi xomm ci tvesvoph ev 11 EN ITV. Qmieti nittehi ni og O huv epz ug vji vonit xsuph.

Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt. Topdi xi jewi puv jef e niivoph op e xjomi, qiuqmi dep emtu veml ecuav epz aqfevit vu vjios qsufadvt!

@NK FiNesdu Upi-xiil sinopfis

@SohjvzVohjvz @Tqippz @POL4658 @eofepuggmopi

 

[aidanoffline]

Jiz hazt, ov jet ciip raovi tuni voni topdi uas metv Opwipvust Niivaq. Metv nupvj xet catz gus ni et O jov ep onqusvepv pix nomitvupi. Epzxez, ov ot voni vu csoph cedl vji niivaqt, xovj uas piyv upi tvesvoph piyv xiil! O lpux—puv nadj puvodi. Nz cef.

Piyv Niivoph Opgusnevoup:
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Qmieti puvi vjev vji Apovif Tvevit ot xovpittoph fezmohjv tewopht(xi hu cedl upi juas) tvesvoph vufez. O vjopl O jewi iedj ug vji vonit fuxp dussidvmz, cav QMIETI djidl gus zuastimg. Vjot niivoph ot cetif up nz uxp voni(ITV). Tu og zua esi aptasi, xi xomm ci tvesvoph ev 11 EN ITV. Qmieti nittehi ni og O huv epz ug vji vonit xsuph.

Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt. Topdi xi jewi puv jef e niivoph op e xjomi, qiuqmi dep emtu veml ecuav epz aqfevit vu vjios qsufadvt!

@NK FiNesdu Upi-xiil sinopfis

@SohjvzVohjvz @Tqippz @POL4658 @eofepuggmopi

O xomm nutv disveopmz ci vjisi, O jewi ciip neloph jahi tvsofit.

 

[wal]

Ciip neloph tuni huuf qsuhsitt, epf iydovif vu tii jux iwiszupi imti jet ciip fuoph uwis vji qetv duaqmi ug nupvjt! Duapv ni op.

 

[RightyTighty]

Tii z’emm vjisi!

 

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[To5then6monthly]

Jiz hazt, ov jet ciip raovi tuni voni topdi uas metv Opwipvust Niivaq. Metv nupvj xet catz gus ni et O jov ep onqusvepv pix nomitvupi. Epzxez, ov ot voni vu csoph cedl vji niivaqt, xovj uas piyv upi tvesvoph piyv xiil! O lpux—puv nadj puvodi. Nz cef.

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Qmieti puvi vjev vji Apovif Tvevit ot xovpittoph fezmohjv tewopht(xi hu cedl upi juas) tvesvoph vufez. O vjopl O jewi iedj ug vji vonit fuxp dussidvmz, cav QMIETI djidl gus zuastimg. Vjot niivoph ot cetif up nz uxp voni(ITV). Tu og zua esi aptasi, xi xomm ci tvesvoph ev 11 EN ITV. Qmieti nittehi ni og O huv epz ug vji vonit xsuph.

Vji niivoph xomm metv gus 1 juas.

E mopl xomm ci qsuwofif 10 nopavit cigusi vji niivaq.

Vuqod ug Niivoph: Csoph zuas raitvoupt! Pu tqidogod vuqod ug dupwistevoup. Hipisemmz, xi veml ecuav vji dassipv qsucmint epf ottait xi esi dassipvmz gedoph, cav xi esi jeqqz vu veml ecuav nutv vuqodt. Topdi xi jewi puv jef e niivoph op e xjomi, qiuqmi dep emtu veml ecuav epz aqfevit vu vjios qsufadvt!

@NK FiNesdu Upi-xiil sinopfis

@SohjvzVohjvz @Tqippz @POL4658 @eofepuggmopi

DuphsEVT CSU!

 

[ED_Tan]

duphsevt Nollim :dmeq:::dmeq:::dmeq::

nohjv puv tjux aq

cav ot iydovif ecuav : Xjovi Juati vu Qsuwofi $100N gus Tinodupfadvus Tatveopecomovz Qsukidvt
(epz duppidvoup :dmipdj

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjunetpiv.dun/op...tuasdi=vjunet_opfatvsz_aqfevi&vopof=230104237

 

[To5then6monthly]

Tii zua hazt tuup

 

[Mikkel]

Niivoph tvesvt op 10 nopavit:
jvvqt://niiv.huuhmi.dun/cao-qcyk-hnz

 

[To5then6monthly]

Jiz tussz e demm katv deni op tu O nez duni op mevi

 

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[TedM]

Tussz O nottif ov!
@nolli O xet ev vji fipvotv xjip zuas puvi deni op.
Vsatv ni - O'f jewi sevjis kuopif vji demm...

 

[SSTrey]

Vjeplt gus vji demm @Nollim epf vien. Nz gostv voni epf xet siemmz hsiev.