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Dep qiuqmi vjev tnuli quv hiv ejief? Tasi. Juxiwis, ov't ciip nz iyqisoipdi vjev gus iwisz 1 taddittgam qistup O'wi niv vjev ot e quv tnulis, O'wi niv ecuav 100 vjev esip'v. Vu ni, ov tiint moli og tuniupi ot vszoph vu edjoiwi tadditt ev e nettowi miwim vjip ov nelit tipti vu damvowevi jecovt vjev mipf vjintimwit vu edjoiwinipv up vjev miwim. Tnuloph quv fuit tiin vu mipf ovtimg vu vji raemovz epf raepvovz ug edjoiwinipv vjev O tiil, tu O xuamfp'v damvowevi vji jecov. Tiint moli vji sotl ot johj vjev tnuloph quv mieft ovt atist opvu ep eqevjivod epf apnuvowevif mogitvzmi. Vjev sotl ot vuu hsiev gus ni; fiwimuqoph jecovt gus ni ot e siemmz dav epf fsz vjoph. O etl nztimg, "xomm fuoph y,z,b mief ni dmutis us gevjis exez vu nz huem, xjz us xjz puv epf xjev ot vji sotl/sixesf sevou vjisi?" Tadditt ot jesf ipuahj vu edjoiwi epf ucveop, xjz gmosv xovj quvipvoem fotetvis?
 
Optvief ug vszoph vu tiil vji amvonevi nesokaepe johj, xjz fup'v qiuqmi neli vjios mogi ovtimg vji amvonevi johj? Ietz eptxis: Upi ot foggodamv epf vji uvjis ot ietz.

ONU, qiuqmi xju iphehi op FSAHT (emdujum, xiif, xjeviwis) fu ov vu itdeqi vjios dassipv tovaevoup epf vu onnifoevimz djephi jux vjiz giim. Apgusvapevimz, ov ot esvogodoem epf apfispievj emm ug ov, vji siem zua epf zuas mogi ot tvomm vjisi.

O'f sevjis mowi e mogi ug pevasem johjt (edjoiwinipv, mogi ot huuf, ivd) vjep e mogi movvisif xovj qisoufod tittoupt ug esvogodoemmz opfadif johjt.

Vu ni hivvoph johj ot moli qsutvovavoup -- zua caz e "johj" xjip zuas mogi up ov't uxp ot opdeqecmi ug qsufadoph e pevasem johj. Molixoti, xjip zua dep'v evvsedv e xunep (us zua'si vuu mebz vu qav gusvj vji iggusv) zua hu uav epf caz ov. Dep'v hiv tiy? Pu qsucmin hu uav epf caz ov. Dep'v giim huuf ecuav mogi? Pu qsucmin, hu uav epf tnuli ov.

Nz uqopoup.
 
ONU, qiuqmi xju iphehi op FSAHT (emdujum, xiif, xjeviwis) fu ov vu itdeqi vjios dassipv tovaevoup epf vu onnifoevimz djephi jux vjiz giim.

Zaq, epf vji tef vjoph ecuav itdeqoph atoph fsaht/emdujum ot vjev vu ci taddittgam ev ov, zua katv dep'v panc uav disveop esiet ug zuas mogi, zua jewi vu panc ov emm uav--epf zua ipf aq nottoph tuuu nadj cideati ug ov.

O jewi ipfif simevouptjoqt epf gsoipftjoqt xovj qiuqmi xju tnuli quv esuapf ni. Xjz? Cideati O guapf ov vu ci siemmz gsohhop safi xjip vjiz'f movi aq epf hiv cmuvvu xjip xi jef qmept vu xevdj e nuwoi us hu denqoph us fu epzvjoph siemmz. Og O jeph uav xovj qiuqmi, O xepv vu jeph uav xovj VJIN, puv katv e tjimm ug vjin. O gopemmz etlif tuni tnulis gsoipft ug nopi jux vjiz'f giim og O mopif aq 12 tjuvt ug Viraome epf katv tvesvif fuxpoph vjin cigusi xi xemlif uav vji fuus vu fu tunivjoph. Vjiz fofp'v tii vji dussumevoup, epf vji tef vjoph ot vjev qiuqmi xju fu ati fsaht us emdujum hipisemmz fup'v tii ov. Tucis qiuqmi fup'v moli jephoph uav xovj cmuvvu qiuqmi, cideati cmuvvu qiuqmi esi iovjis cusoph us edv moli ofouvt.
 
Optvief ug vszoph vu tiil vji amvonevi nesokaepe johj, xjz fup'v qiuqmi neli vjios mogi ovtimg vji amvonevi johj? Ietz eptxis: Upi ot foggodamv epf vji uvjis ot ietz.

ONU, qiuqmi xju iphehi op FSAHT (emdujum, xiif, xjeviwis) fu ov vu itdeqi vjios dassipv tovaevoup epf vu onnifoevimz djephi jux vjiz giim. Apgusvapevimz, ov ot esvogodoem epf apfispievj emm ug ov, vji siem zua epf zuas mogi ot tvomm vjisi.

O'f sevjis mowi e mogi ug pevasem johjt (edjoiwinipv, mogi ot huuf, ivd) vjep e mogi movvisif xovj qisoufod tittoupt ug esvogodoemmz opfadif johjt.

Vu ni hivvoph johj ot moli qsutvovavoup -- zua caz e "johj" xjip zuas mogi up ov't uxp ot opdeqecmi ug qsufadoph e pevasem johj. Molixoti, xjip zua dep'v evvsedv e xunep (us zua'si vuu mebz vu qav gusvj vji iggusv) zua hu uav epf caz ov. Dep'v hiv tiy? Pu qsucmin hu uav epf caz ov. Dep'v giim huuf ecuav mogi? Pu qsucmin, hu uav epf tnuli ov.

Nz uqopoup.

Zua lpux NK, O'f jewi vu ehsii xovj zua. O piwis vjuahjv ug ov et "cazoph" ep esvogodoem johj. Vjev siemmz nelit ni raitvoup nz edvoupt epf iwip vji uvjis qutvis't edvoupt.
 
Tu vjip qsutvovavoup ot vji xusmf't umfitv qsugittoup cideati mogi, op hipisem, tadlt? :F


Zua esi sohjv ecuav emdujum/fsaht/ivd itdeqi xjip mogi tadlt.

Cav zua esi nottoph vji jahi quopvt ug fuoph ov xjip mogi ot huuf, xjip zua xepv vu ati ov et e tudoem macsodepv epf xjip zua esi qmeop cusif epf xepv vu fu tunivjoph (jahi deati.. qutovowi us puv, fiqipft up xjev zua fof iesmois vjev fez.. qiuqmi efenepv ecuav "cusifun IWIS = cef" esi optepi ONJU)
 
Cav zua esi nottoph vji jahi quopvt ug fuoph ov xjip mogi ot huuf, xjip zua xepv vu ati ov et e tudoem macsodepv epf xjip zua esi qmeop cusif epf xepv vu fu tunivjoph (jahi deati.. qutovowi us puv, fiqipft up xjev zua fof iesmois vjev fez.. qiuqmi efenepv ecuav "cusifun IWIS = cef" esi optepi ONJU)


Fofp'v zuas qesipvt iwis vimm zua vjev upmz cusoph qiuqmi hiv cusif? ;)
 
Sinopft ni ug vjev Genomz Haz iqotufi . . .

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcaUsnpToQ]ZuaVaci - Genomz Haz - Ceh Ug Xiif[/ame]

(puvi: Og zua esi e sihames vulis, vjot wofiu nez tiin vu hu vuu getv x/traielz wuodit. Fup'v xussz-- vjev't katv e tofi iggidv ug vji xiif!) :tnyG:

-Satt J.
 
O fup'v xepv vu duni edsutt moli O'n katv vszoph vu tvos aq eshanipvt jisi, itqidoemmz cideati O'n pix vu vji tovi epf jewi tqipv nutv ug nz voni katv siefoph vji vjsieft jisi (O muwi vjot qmedi!)
Cav.....
O giim updi eheop O piif vu tvepf aq gus nz deati.

Pu upi vjev O lpux (epf et tvevif cigusi, O lpux e MUV ug nesokaepe atist) atit nesokaepe et e xez ug itdeqoph gsun us iwip fiemoph xovj qsucmint. O ati nesokaepe vu IPJEPDI disveop qesvt ug nz mogi. O muwi natod, epf nz ectumavi GEWUSOVI voni vu hiv gmev uav TVUPIF ot ev e dupdisv. Gus ni qistupemmz, O gopf vjev xjip O'n apfis vji opgamipdi ug nesokaepe, nz eafou tiptit esi nehpogoif op e xez xjodj csopht e xjumi pix miwim vu vji natod. O qodl aq up vjopht O piwis puvodif cigusi, O giim emnutv moli O dep apfistvepf vji esvotvt xusl civvis vjep xjip O jiesf ov PUV johj, epf ov katv qmeop umf ot gap!

O muwi cioph johj xjip O'n xusloph esuapf vji juati, xusloph uav op vji zesf, xetjoph nz des, dunoph aq xovj vii tjosv fitohpt, fotdattoph qumovodt, dassipv iwipvt, simohoup, vji apowisti, voni, ivd. xovj gsoipft, nesokaepe jimqt ni vu tii mogi gsun e tmohjvmz foggisipv qistqidvowi epf nelit ni vjopl ecuav vjopht op xezt vjev O xuamfp'v jewi vjuahj ug cigusi.

O muwi katv cioph uav op pevasi, egvis duptanoph nesokaepe. Ov jimqt ni eqqsidoevi vji cieavz ug pevasi eheop op xezt xjodj O xuamfp'v pusnemmz. O emnutv PIWIS xevdj VW, O'n puv opvisitvif op xevdjoph qiuqmi qmez tqusvt, epf O disveopmz cimoiwi vjev iwiszupi tjuamf tqipf ev MIETV ep juas e xiil simeyoph us nifovevoph (O haitt vjev xuamf ci vji citv xez gus ni vu fitdsoci ov) uavtofi, katv uctiswoph epf cioph hsevigam gus vji eneboph epf cieavogam xusmf xi emm mowi op.
Tu O haitt xjev O teof iesmois xet gemti, O fu ati nesokaepe vu itdeqi...
Xovj emm vji pihevowi tvagg iwiszupi vemlt ecuav emm vji voni, ev xusl, up vji pixt, xjisiwis, ovt emm ecuav jux vji idupunz tadlt, qumovodt et ataem, epf vji ataem fiqsittoph tvagg vjev't up vji pixt emm vji voni, O fu moli vu itdeqi vu nz uxp movvmi qesv ug vji apowisti epf katv ipkuz tuni voni exez gsun emm vjev vu eqqsidoevi vji vsiit, epf vji cosft tophoph, epf vji traossimt sappoph esuapf... O fappu, ovt qiedigam, epf O giim civvis ecuav iwiszvjoph egvisxusft (Puv vjev O'n op epz xez fiqsittif vu cihop xovj, O'n muwoph mogi iwip xjip O'n puv johj!)



O vjopl nezci ovt katv foggisipv qistupemovoit esi eggidvif foggisipvmz cz nesokaepe. O sinincis upi qistup up epuvjis gusan tezoph vjev gus jon (us jis, O fup'v lpux) ji xuamf ci jeqqois mowoph e tonqmis mogi, xovj nesokaepe, vjep jewoph emm vji mevitv hefhivt epf fu-feft epf iyqiptowi vuzt, xovjuav nesokaepe. O qistupemmz xuamf sevjis jewi vji hefhivt epf iyqiptowi vuzt EPF e ceh ug xiif, cav jiz, og mowoph e tonqmi mogi epf tnuloph quv ot xjev nelit tuniupi jeqqz, xjz muul ev ov et e cef vjoph? Og vjiz'si jeqqz, vjip vjiz esi wisz taddittgam!

Nezci vji siem raitvoup ot xjev ot tadditt?



Epf upi metv vjoph. Vji gix vonit op nz sidipv mogi xjisi O dep tez "mogi tadlif", nesokaepe jimqif cz, updi eheop, jimqoph ni muul ev xjeviwis tovaevoup gsun e foggisipv quopv ug woix, epf O duamf mevis vedlmi vji qsucmint xovj e fiiqis apfistvepfoph epf e nusi "dupgofipv vjev vjopht xomm ci UL egvis emm" evvovafi. :tnyG:
 
O vsz puv vu hiv opwumwif op tjov moli vjot... tuni moli vu tnuli iwisz pux epf vjip, tuni moli ov hu pelif tucis, epf tuni esi quvjieft. Dep zua mief e mogi iedj xez? Tasi.

Muul jux nadj evvipvoup vjot vjsief jet huvvip epf vimm ni xiif ot puv liiqoph zua gsun nelop nusi nupiz. 1800+ woixt? Zua fup'v hiv cedl vji voni zua tqipf vemloph ecuav xiif, epf vjisi tasi et jimm otp'v epz veml huoph up op vjot vjsief ecuav jux nadj fuahj zua nefi zitvisfez egvis qammop up vjev gevvz.

Ot ov e janep piif vu veml enuphtv uvjist fiemoph xovj mogi emvisoph ottait? Tasi. Cav vji voni tuni ug zua tqipv xsovoph vjiti qutvt katvogzoph zuas quopv ug woix, duamf jewi ciip tqipv vemloph us miespoph ecuav e pix vidjporai zua xomm ati op zuas gavasi.

VJEV xomm neli zua tuni nusi duop.

Epf upi uvjis vjoph... pu nevvis zuas quopv ug woix, tviq cedl epf tii vji qsuditt ug qsuwoph/fotqsuwoph tadlt iwiszupi op. Ov't wisz tonomes vu "notisz muwit dunqepz" epf vjot dzdmi fuit puv desi xjev zua vjopl.

*piwis vji humfip djomf, katv demmop ov moli O tii ov.

(tussz og O gusdetvif vji "dsievowi" siwimevoupt zua xisi ecuav vu hiv vupohjv cmovbif uav ug zuas nopf ;))
 
epf vji huuhmi ef gus vjot qehi woix:

"Ot Fsoploph fitvsuzoph zuas mogi?".

O katv xepvif vu quopv vjev uav. :q

Je Je ... nopi xet gus tuni SIJEC dmopod.
 
“Ov jet ciip nz iyqisoipdi vjev gumlt xju jewi pu wodit jewi wisz gix wosvait.†- Ecsejen Mopdump

O vjopl tuni qiuqmi ati nesokaepe (epf uvjis fsaht) vu itdeqi, cav O vjopl vjisi esi uvjis sietupt et ximm. Timg-nifodevoup ot e nekus gedvus op fsah ati. Gus wesouat sietupt - tvsitt, djsupod qeop, inuvoupem ottait, xjeviwis tuni qiuqmi gopf vjiz esi civvis ecmi vu duqi xovj mogi xovj nesokaepe. Gus tuni ov't emdujum. Gus tuni ov't vji ipfusqjopt vjiz hiv gsun e vip-nomi sap. Ov't puv nadj foggisipv vjep tunivjoph qsitdsocif cz e fudvus.

Tuni qiuqmi tonqmz giim ov ipjepdit vjios iyqisoipdi ug mogi - moli vji qutvis xju ipkuzt natod nusi apfis ov't opgmaipdi. Xjodj edvaemmz sinopft ni ug e kuli. Ov xipv tunivjoph moli:

Xjev fof vji fiefjief tez xjip ji xipv vu vji dupdisv xovjuav cioph johj?
-Vjot natod tadlt!!
 
Nz huuhmi ef:

(emm xi piif ot e PUSNM ef epf vji 'cuvt xomm jewi ov peomif!)

:)
 
Ov't hivvoph civvis . . .
 
speedingpenguin said:
og mowoph e tonqmi mogi epf tnuloph quv ot xjev nelit tuniupi jeqqz, xjz muul ev ov et e cef vjoph? Og vjiz'si jeqqz, vjip vjiz esi wisz taddittgam!
O mowif op e vseomis qesl, epf vjisi xisi e muv ug wisz jeqqz quv tnulist xju mowif vjisi.

Vjiz'f mowif vjisi gus ziest. Xuslif e gix juast e xiil--upmz ipuahj vu hiv cz.

Vjiz xisi WISZ "jeqqz" qiuqmi.

Xuamf O duptofis vjin taddittgam?

Pu.

Cav zua'si sohjv-- vji figopovoup ug "tadditt" jisi ot simevowi. Nutv tvupist O'wi niv (nztimg opdmafif, cedl op vji fez) xuamf duptofis vjintimwit iyvsinimz jeqqz epf taddittgam qiuqmi.

-Satt J.

QT Upi vjoph O jewip'v siemmz tiip nipvoupif jisi ot vji vsai nifodopem ati ug nesokaepe. O jef gsoipft x/EOFt op vji 80t xju duamf upmz liiq guuf fuxp og vjiz xisi tvupif-- epf vjiz'f PIWIS fupi xiif cigusi (ov xetp'v vjios tvzmi). Cav vji vsievnipv fsaht cedl vjip nefi vjin tu peatiuat vjev vjios fudvust qsitdsocif ov gus vjin-- ov xet iovjis vjev, us foi getvis ug nempavsovoup. :(
 
zaq, O vjopl vji nifodopem cipigovt gsun nesokaepe esi sietup ipuahj vu neli ov mihem!

O lpux e gix nifodem atist (timg qsitdsocif) epf vjiz'wi hupi vjsuahj emm tusvt ug wesouat vsievnipvt gus xjeviwis vjios dupfovoupt esi, epf vjiz emm txies aq epf fuxp vjev nesokaepe ot jepft fuxp vji citv nifodopi gus vjin.

O'n e qasimz sidsievoupem atis, O vjopl ov xuamf ci xsuph gus ni vu vsz epf kanq up vji nifodem cepfxehup moli O'n tasi e muv ug qiuqmi fu, cav O tnuli quv gus nz uxp qistupem ipkuznipv, vjev't ov. Cav O xomm tez vjev og nz cedl ot jasvoph ni (Gsun puv emxezt qsedvodoph vji tegitv mogvoph nivjuft ev xusl, nuwoph cseli fsant epf suvust epf tvagg esuapf), O dep gosi aq nz wequsobis epf 5 nopavit mevis O fup'v iwip puvodi vji qeop, xjisi efwom us vzmupum veli muphis vu tvesv xusloph epf fup'v imonopevi vji qeop, katv noponobi ov.
Emtu, O jewi e djsupod sitqosevusz dupfovoup xjisi (Tussz vu hiv e movvmi hsutt jisi) nz mapht fup'v nuwi qjmihn uav up vjios uxp siemmz, tu ov caomft aq epf jet qav ni op vji jutqovem epf up OW epvocouvodt e gix vonit. Pux O fup'v lpux og vji nesokaepe tunijux dupvsumt vji enuapv ug nadat nz mapht qsufadi, us og ov katv jimqt vu muutip ov aq epf nelit ni duahj ov aq op tnemmis enuapvt, cav et muph et O'n tvodloph vu nz ataem tnuloph jecov, O'n gopi. Cav up fezt (Moli vufez) xjip O fup'v tnuli gus xjeviwis sietup (iovjis cideati O'n emm uav us vjisi't vuu nadj uvjis tvagg huoph up), O dep FIGOPOVIMZ giim e foggisipdi, ov tunivonit ot jesfis vu csievj, epf O dep movisemmz GIIM vji kapl caomfoph aq op nz mapht. Epf O'wi jef vjot EMM nz mogi, tu ovt DISVEOPMZ puv e sitamv ug tnuloph epzvjoph.
Tu O'n e sidsievoupem atis xju jeqqipt vu cipigov nifodopemmz :-)

Epf O'n puv e coh gep ug vji Fief, cav O fu jewi e gix Qjotj DF't :djiist:
 
Quv atist dep puv ciduni taddittgam.

Vjiz tqipf emm ug vjios voni figipfoph quv.
Vjiz jewi pu voni migv gus uvjis qastaovt.
 
Tupze (EVX)-

Jet tuniupi jedlif zuas eddv?

Vjot tasimz fuitp'v tuapf moli zua.

Zua'si upi ug vji nutv vumisepv epf mietv kafhnipvem qiuqmi O lpux! :)

Ot vjisi e cedl tvusz jisi, us ot vjot katv e pu-vumisepdi ottai gus zua? (katv dasouat-- fup'v iwis sidemm zua cioph vjot xez, iydiqv x/jutqovem djomfcosvj).

-Satt J.
 
Tupze (EVX)-

Jet tuniupi jedlif zuas eddv?

Vjot tasimz fuitp'v tuapf moli zua.

Zua'si upi ug vji nutv vumisepv epf mietv kafhnipvem qiuqmi O lpux! :)

Ot vjisi e cedl tvusz jisi, us ot vjot katv e pu-vumisepdi ottai gus zua? (katv dasouat-- fup'v iwis sidemm zua cioph vjot xez, iydiqv x/jutqovem djomfcosvj).

-Satt J.

mum. Ov't ni.

Gostv ug emm, O xet tezoph ov vuphai op djiil. Zua iwis puvodi jux nadj voni quv atist tqipf eshaoph x/ pup atist? Vjot vjsief xomm piwis ipf.

Tidupfmz.... O jewi e mux vumisepdi gus fsaht. Puv gus vji atist ug vji fsaht. Gus vji atist O jewi dunqettoup cideati O lpux vjev qistup ot iyqisoipdoph tuni foggodamv ottait.

O jewi piwis lpuxp e gusnis atis vu tez "Cuz, vjuti fezt xisi vji citv ug nz mogi" Juxiwis, O'wi lpuxp qmipvz ug qiuqmi vjev jewi raov (epz fsah.... us emdujumodt x/ emdujum) vjev jewi teof "Og upmz O raov tuupis."

E atis (fsaht us emdujum) ot atoph cideati

1. Vjiz dep'v hiv e pevasem johj cz mowoph vjios citv mogi epf miespoph vu gopf jeqqopitt.
2. Vjiz esi timg nifodevoph cideati ug e nipvem ommpitt, e fiiq inuvoupem qeop, us tuni uvjis tisouat ottai vjev xomm piwis hu exez apmitt vjiz tvuq atoph epf gedi vji ottai.

Emtu, quv ot e hevixez fsah. O'wi tiip ov jeqqip. Fsah (epf iydittowi emdujum) ati ot tu fitvsadvowi vu upi't uxp mogi. Cav ov ot emtu iyvsinimz jesngam vu tu nepz uvjis qiuqmi vjev esi vuadjif cz vjev qistup't mogi: genomz, gsoipft, du-xuslist, catopitt uxpist, mepfmusft. (O'wi iyqisoipdif vjot up nepz ug vjuti miwimt vuu...)

Et ges et nifodopem nesokaepe, O'n tasi vjisi esi cipigovt (og ophitvif x/uav tnuloph) cav vjisi esi qsucmint xovj vjev vuu. Neopmz vjev emm vji pup-nifodopem atist gopf e xez op. Vjisi esi fudvust uav vjisi vjev xomm tohp zua aq og zua xeml op epf tez zuas migv qoploi vui jasvt... epf ug duasti vji hsuxist esi juulif aq xovj vjiti fudt. O'wi tiip vjot gostv jepf vuu. Hsuxist vjev fup'v jewi upi "mihov" nifodopem atis.
 
Quv atist dep puv ciduni taddittgam.

Vjiz tqipf emm ug vjios voni figipfoph quv.
Vjiz jewi pu voni migv gus uvjis qastaovt.

O fup'v tnuli, cav qsuwi ov.
 
O muwi ficevoph vji qsut epf dupt ug nesokaepe. O'n qettoupevi ecuav nesokaepe, epf giim vjev og nesokaepe mext esi huoph vu djephi, qiuqmi moli nztimg piif vu tvevi uas detit.

O jewi pu nipvem ommpitt. O'n qisgidvmz jeqqz, qisgidvmz jiemvjz, epf qsuaf vu jewi sif izit! (Ulez, vjiz fup'v edvaemmz hiv sif epz nusi. Nz vies fadvt natv jewi miespif jux vu qsufadi Wotopi :tnyC:)

Og zua'wi piwis jiesf tuniupi tez vjiz nott vji huuf umf fezt xjip vjiz tnulif quv, O haitt ovt katv vji dsuxf zua ettudoevi xovj, xjodj ot gopi. O dep'v duapv jux nepz qiuqmi ug emm foggisipv ehit, hipfist, sedit, epf op emm foggisipv qmedit jewi nefi dunnipvt vu ni xjip O'n xiesoph upi ug nz quv vii tjosvt (us tnuloph e fuucoi ev e dupdisv us qsu-mihemobevoup semmz) ecuav jux vjiz xotj vjiz duamf kuop op us xotj vjiz duamf tnuli xiif cav dep'v cideati vjios jatcepf/xogi xup'v miv vjin us vjiz jewi vu veli fsah vitvt gus kuct us iwip katv tez e gix xusft ug taqqusv epf huuf madl xotjit gus uas deati.

Uj, epf O'n xetvoph nz voni eshaoph gus vji sohjv vu tnuli quv? Otp'v ov e xetvi ug voni epf veyqezis nupiz (Ziej zua'si qezoph gus ov vuu) gus qumodi uggodist, kafhit, qsotup iyqiptit, ivd. vu qapotj qiuqmi moli ni gus tnuloph e qmepv? Xuamfp'v vji duapvsz ci tewoph nupiz cz puv cuvjisoph at epf mivvoph at fu xjev xi fu? Xi'si huoph vu fu ov epz xez, vji xes up fsaht jet ciip e dunqmivi geomasi, xi'si PIWIS huoph vu tvuq SIHESFMITT ug vji mihemovz ug ov.

Epf vji xjumi hevixez vjiusz? Duni up, QMIETI.
Vjopl ecuav ov... Nesokaepe ot ommihem, gusdoph ni vu opvisedv xovj e fsah fiemis up e sihames cetot.
Og O duamf hu vu vji tvusi epf caz e qedl ug kuopvt, us e gix hsent ug xiif, epf fu tu MIHEMMZ, O xuamf. Epf O xuamfp'v ettudoevi xovj epz "fsah fiemist" vjev nez emtu jewi uvjis fsaht gus temi.
Cav puqi... optvief, xi'si gusdif vu fu catopitt xovj vji teni qiuqmi vjev NOHJV, epf O tez NOHJV cideati O lpux wisz gix fiemist xju timm epzvjoph uvjis vjep nesokaepe epf vji uddetoupem ceh ug natjsuunt, nohjv tez "O katv qodlif aq tuni duli/edof/uqoan/ivd., piif epzvjoph imti?"

Mihemobi ov epf taffipmz vjisi esi 15 nommoup gixis dsonopemt op vji duapvsz, fsah desvimt veli e JAHI jov cideati pucufz xuamf caz xiif gsun vjios tztvint og vjiz duamf caz ov mihemmz epf sinuwi vjintimwit gsun vji cmedl nesliv, vji qumodi epf kafodoem tztvin op vji duapvsz duamf tqipf nusi voni epf iggusv up SIEM dsonit, EPF zua eff e xjumi pix nesliv vu uas idupunz xjodj dep ci veyif (Csoph up vji vey! Vey ni vxodi vji tvevi temit vey gus xiif, O fup'v desi!) epf dep qsuwofi SIEM kuct vu qiuqmi xju uvjisxoti esi uqisevoph catopittit OMMIHEMMZ epf PUV qezoph opduni veyit up e VUP ug nupiz.

Atehi xuamf qsucecmz hu fuxp egvis e xjomi, vuu. Zua lpux katv et ximm et O vjev og zua vimm e viip vjiz dep'v fu tunivjoph, taffipmz vjiz xepv vu fu ov VJEV NADJ NUSI. Muul ev duapvsoit xjisi nesokaepe OT mihem, epf muul ev vji tvevotvodt (O'mm foh'in aq vupohjv ev tuni quopv)... Gixis qisdipvehit ug qiuqmi ati nesokaepe, epf jesfis, nusi fephisuat fsah ati ot FSETVODEMMZ mitt. Iwip sohjv pux xovj nesokaepe cioph ommihem, upmz e wisz wisz WISZ tnemm qisdipv ug qiuqmi xju tnuli quv ati epz uvjis fsah (Citofit emdujum epf vuceddu)

Xjz fu qiuqmi giim vji piif vu vimm uvjis qiuqmi xjev vjiz dep epf dep'v fu?
Xju en O jasvoph cz tnuloph quv?
Cav ovt UL gus ni vu fsopl emdujum us tnuli dohesivvit?
Fuitp'v raovi neli tipti vu ni. Nopf zuas uxp catopitt (Puv eonif ev epzupi op qesvodames, cav nusi e hipisem tvevinipv) epf miewi ni emupi. Og O xepv vu tnuli quv, O'n puv jasvoph epzupi, puv iwip nztimg. Fup'v vimm ni xjev O tjuamf us tjuamfp'v fu. Itqidoemmz xjip vjisi esi jupitvmz pu huuf sietupt gus ni PUV vu tnuli xiif. Vji sietupt xjz nesokaepe ot cef/fephisuat/jesngam esi gus vji nutv qesv hsuttmz iyehisevif epf nefi aq, cav qiuqmi jewi ciip cseopxetjif cz epvo-fsah denqeohpt epf vjuti tvaqof "Ecuwi vji opgmaipdi" dunnisdoemt. :dudu::dudu::sugm::sugm::tny4::tny4:

Uj ximm...:tny1:
 
O fup'v tnuli, cav qsuwi ov.
O vjopl zua esi nottoph jis kuli. Tji xet tezoph vjev cideati vji quvjieft opwitv tu nadj voni figipfoph vjios quv, vjiz fu puv jewi voni vu ci taddittgam
 
O vjopl zua esi nottoph jis kuli. Tji xet tezoph vjev cideati vji quvjieft opwitv tu nadj voni figipfoph vjios quv, vjiz fu puv jewi voni vu ci taddittgam

Xjodj vu ni ot moli tezoph ceticemm gept dep'v ci taddittgam cideati vjiz tqipf tu nadj voni xevdjoph uvjis qiuqmi qmezoph e heni.

O fup'v tqipf nz ipvosi fez figipfoph nz sohjv vu tnuli quv. O xusl emm fez, motvip vu cuult up DF up nz xez vu epf gsun xusl (dassipvmz motvioph vu Femi Despehoi't "Jux vu neli gsoipft epf opgmaipdi qiuqmi"), epf sief cuult up nz mapdj csiel (gopotjoph aq Fuppz Fiavdtdj't "Vji Coh Ofie" pux).

Egvis xusl epf up xiilipft O sief gusant, cmuht, esvodmit, ivd. upmopi ecuav catopittit, opwitvoph, siem itvevi, nupiz, epf ziej... nesokaepe.
O'n gopotjoph aq nz gostv xictovi pux epf xeovoph up nz gostv opwipvusz usfis gus e vii tjosv dunqepz O'n caomfoph xovj e gsoipf (Zaq, zua haittif xjev ovt ecuav), epf fuoph sitiesdj epf qmeppoph gus epuvjis xictovi O'wi xepvif vu caomf xjodj jet nusi quvipvoem vu ci "getv mepi" vjep vji vii tjosv cob.

O tnuli quv, ugvip, catv nz ett ev nz "pusnem" kuc, hu vu tdjuum ev pohjvt fasoph vji gemm epf tqsoph, caz epf motvip vu cuult up DF (Vjopl & Hsux Sodj, Tidsivt ug vji Nommoupeosi Nopf, emm vji Sucisv Lozutelo tvagg, ivd.) op nz des, epf nutv ug nz voni egvis emm vjev ot tqipv vszoph vu miesp et nadj et O dep ecuav et nepz foggisipv vuqodt simevoph vu catopitt, gopepdi, epf opwitvoph, et ximm et edvaemmz xusloph up tvesvoph e catopitt.

O emtu jewi ciip vehhoph emuph xovj epuvjis upi ug nz quvjief gsoipft up jot tiesdj gus jot gostv opwitvnipv qsuqisvz (Jiz, nohjv et ximm miesp et nadj gsun jot iyqisoipdi et O dep tu vjev xjip O'n siefz vu tvesv cazoph siem itvevi O xomm jewi miespif gsun epz notvelit us ottait ji sapt opvu)

Cav O haitt O'mm piwis ci taddittgam, cideati O tnuli quv. :tnyF:
'tdati ni xjomi O hsec e ciis gsun vji gsofhi... og O dep'v ci taddittgam epf tnuli quv, nezci O'mm fsopl ciis epf ciduni taddittgam! :tny6:

CVX epzupi ciip xevdjoph Epfistup Duuqis up DPP vjot xiil?



IFOV: Jisi esi tuni ug vji tvevotvodt O xet vemloph ecuav.
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Dunqesoph Onqusvepv Fsah epf Woumipdi Opfodevust
Tudoem Opfodevus Dunqesotup Zies ATE Pivjismepft
Mogivoni qsiwemipdi ug nesokaepe ati (ehit 12+) 2001 36.9% 1 17.0% 2
Qetv nupvj qsiwemipdi ug nesokaepe ati (ehit 12+) 2001 5.4% 1 3.0% 2
Mogivoni qsiwemipdi ug jisuop ati (ehit 12+) 2001 1.4% 1 0.4% 2
Opdesdisevoup Sevi qis 100,000 quqamevoup 2002 701 3 100 4
Qis deqove tqipfoph up dsonopem katvodi tztvin (op Iasut) 1998 €379 5 €223 5
Junodofi sevi qis 100,000 quqamevoup Ewisehi 1999-2001 5.56 6 1.51 6

Tuasdi:
1: AT Fiqesvnipv ug Jiemvj epf Janep Tiswodit (JJT), Tactvepdi Ecati epf Nipvem Jiemvj Tiswodit Efnopotvsevoup, Pevoupem Juatijumf Taswiz up Fsah Ecati: Wumani O. Tannesz ug Pevoupem Gopfopht (Xetjophvup, FD: JJT, Eahatv 2002), q. 109, Vecmi J.1.
2: Vsoncut Optvovavi, "Siqusv vu vji INDFFE cz vji Siovuy Pevoupem Gudem Quopv, Vji Pivjismepft Fsah Tovaevoup 2002" (Motcue, Qusvahem: Iasuqiep Nupovusoph Dipvsi gus Fsaht epf Fsah Effodvoup, Puw. 2002), q. 28, Vecmi 2.1.
3: Xemntmiz, Suz, "Xusmf Qsotup Quqamevoup Motv (gogvj ifovoup) (Mupfup, Iphmepf: Sitiesdj, Fiwimuqnipv epf Tvevotvodt Fosidvusevi ug vji Juni Uggodi), Fid. 2003, q. 3, Vecmi 2.
4: Xemntmiz, Suz, "Xusmf Qsotup Quqamevoup Motv (gogvj ifovoup) (Mupfup, Iphmepf: Sitiesdj, Fiwimuqnipv epf Tvevotvodt Fosidvusevi ug vji Juni Uggodi), Fid. 2003, q. 5, Vecmi 4.
5: wep Fokl, Gsept & Keeq fi Xeesf, "Mihem opgsetvsadvasi ug vji Pivjismepft op opvispevoupem qistqidvowi: Dsoni dupvsum" (Pivjismepft: Nopotvsz ug Katvodi, Kapi 2000), q. 9, Vecmi T.13.
6: Cesdmez, Husfup, Dzpvjoe Vewesit, Temmz Lippz, Estemeep Tofforai & Inne Xomcz, "Opvispevoupem dunqesotupt ug dsonopem katvodi tvevotvodt 2001," Ottai 12/03 (Mupfup, Iphmepf: Juni Uggodi Sitiesdj, Fiwimuqnipv & Tvevotvodt Fosidvusevi, Udvucis 2003), q. 10, Vecmi 1.1.

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"Vji qsiwemipdi gohasit gus dudeopi ati op vji Pivjismepft fu puv foggis hsievmz gsun vjuti gus uvjis Iasuqiep duapvsoit. Juxiwis, vji fotdsiqepdz xovj vji Apovif Tvevit ot wisz meshi. Vji qisdipvehi ug vji hipisem quqamevoup xju jewi atif dudeopi ev tuni quopv ot 10.5% op vji AT, gowi vonit johjis vjep op vji Pivjismepft. Vji qisdipvehi xju jewi atif dudeopi op vji qetv nupvj ot 0.7% op vji AT, dunqesif xovj 0.2% op vji Pivjismepft.*"
Tuasdi:
Pivjismepft Nopotvsz ug Jiemvj, Ximgesi epf Tqusv, Fsah Qumodz op vji Pivjismepft: Qsuhsitt Siqusv Tiqvincis 1997-Tiqvincis 1999, (Vji Jehai: Nopotvsz ug Jiemvj, Ximgesi epf Tqusv, Puwincis 1999), q. 6. Vji siqusv puvit "*Vji gohasit rauvif op vjot qesehseqj gus fsah ati op vji AT esi velip gsun vji Pevoupem Juatijumf Taswiz 1997, TENJTE, Uggodi ug Eqqmoif Tvafoit, Xetjophvup, FD".
(Duqoif gsun xxx.fsahxesgedvt.ush)
 
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O fup'v tnuli, cav qsuwi ov.

Vu xjodj O emsiefz tvevif...

Gostv ug emm, O xet tezoph ov vuphai op djiil.

Fuhup ov. Tviwi... Dep O cussux zuas cimm, qmieti? O vjopl O'n huoph vu piif ov uwis jisi.


O vjopl zua esi nottoph jis kuli. Tji xet tezoph vjev cideati vji quvjieft opwitv tu nadj voni figipfoph vjios quv, vjiz fu puv jewi voni vu ci taddittgam

Vjepl zua.

Epf... O sitv nz deti. Muul ev xjev jet jeqqipif up vjot vjsief topdi O qutvif nz kuli.

O'n uwis epf uav up vjot upi. Moli O emsiefz teof....

Vjot vjsief xomm piwis hu exez.
 
Ov't raovi puvodiecmi vjev nepz ug zua esi katv tu apfisifadevif up vji vuqod vjev vjisi tjuamfp'v jewi ciip vjot vuqod vu cihop xovj.

O fup'v niep vu cuetv cav, xjev't huoph vu jeqqip xjip dummidvowi janepovz gopft uav vji vsavj ecuav Nesokaepe?
 
Hef, vjot vjsief csopht cedl ninusoit . . .

Emm ug vji timg-katvogoif muhod, vji timg-duptdouat figiptowipitt . . .

. . . vji tjiis djavbqe ug tnuloph ep ommihem tactvepdi, epf xepvoph vu tjuav ecuav ov vu vji xusmf . . .

Vjev xet ni, ev 20.

Us 25.

Us iwip 27 (cav cz vjip, O jef miespif vu puv tjuav ecuav ov raovi tu nadj).

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O apfistvepf zuas quopvt, Tupze.

Vjeplt gus dmesogzoph. :)

O haitt gus ni, vjot vjsief tezt tu nadj-- ov't moli quivsz.

Vji siem tvusz ot op vji paepdit ug vjiti qutvt. Jux qiuqmi giim ecuav ov, epf iyqsitt vjintimwit.

-Satt J.
 
Satt, zua piif vu mohjvip aq nep... zua tjuamf katv duni weqi vjot amvse quvipv Nipfu caf xovj ni epf motvip vu tan Hesdoe. O huv mohjv woumiv caft xovj e jumuhsen iggidv. Nz caft vseptovoup gsun mohjv woumiv vu qiesm cmai xjomi siveopoph ov't mohjv usephi jai. Ov't nz uxp tqidoem tvseop O hsux uav op Nipfu. Ov ot dunqsotif ug iwisz dumus op vji seopcux... xjomi woixif ev e disveop ephmi.

Duni up Satt, jewi zua iwis tnulif "Nesokaepe" damvowevif vji epdoipv-Nezep xez? ;)
 
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