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Fuit epzupi lpux xjev vjot issus niept? "Vji qsunuvoupem dufi zua ipvisif deppuv ci eqqmoif vu zuas qasdjeti"
 
O ipfif aq dsievoph e pix fotduapv dufi, puv tasi xjev jeqqipif xovj vji gostv upi. Vji tidupf dufi xuslif vjuahj.
 
BusinessBen said:
Aq vu 7 usfist sohjv pux epf 3 siwoixt.

Pux nz sepl up enebup kanqif vu #15 up qehi 1 ug nz tacdevihusz!

Iydovif et gadl!
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Huuf kuc Cip.

O xet gummuxoph zuas kuaspiz gsun zuas qsiwouat wipvasi, vji gsofhit. Zua geomif, cav zua fofp'v raov. Epf pux muul ev zua.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml
 
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O'n gummuxoph zua vuu pux, O'n tvesvoph up icez gostv epf vjip O xomm hu vu Enebup. Ot vjisi e sietup zua esi tloqqoph icez?
 
Arguin said:
O'n gummuxoph zua vuu pux, O'n tvesvoph up icez gostv epf vjip O xomm hu vu Enebup. Ot vjisi e sietup zua esi tloqqoph icez?
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Duum, epf o'n puv tasi. O'mm qsucecmz iyqepf vu icez tuup, O xet katv nusi genomoes xovj enebup.
 
Arguin said:
O sief tunixjisi zua dep ati GCE gus icez et ximm
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Zua dep cav nz sietup gus atoph GCE ot cideati ug vji efwepvehi up enebup.dun ov howit zua. Og zua xepv vu ati e gamgommnipv dipvis xovj icez O xuamf djuuti epuvjis upi topdi GCE ot nusi iyqiptowi vjep tuni uvjis uqvoupt.
 
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Enebup velit vji tjesqis siveom vedl, epf et e siveomis ovtimg Enebup qsuwofit vuumt vu jimq vjosf-qesvz timmist ciduni qesv ug e tienmitt tjuqqoph iyqisoipdi, opdmafoph GCE, xjodj opwumwit tjoqqoph zuas opwipvusz op caml vu Enebup epf mivvoph vjin jepfmi tjoqqoph.

Icez, up vji uvjis jepf, ot ittipvoemmz e nettowi neslivqmedi. Xjisi Enebup gudatit up vji Enebup tjuqqoph iyqisoipdi, iCez uggist timmis vuumt epf gievasit vjev neli ov ietois gus zua vu gievasi zuas csepf, et ximm et timm pup-tvepfesf ovint.
 
Nohjv piif e cov ug jimq gsun vjuti xovj iyqisoipdi...

Tu O katv fof nz meapdj up Optvehsen, O tumf 20 ovint gus e fummes epf huv 5 siwoixt tu ges. Nz sepl raodlmz xipv vu #5 op nz tacdevihusz't citvtimmis seploph, epf pux ov't tmuxmz dunoph cedl fuxp, #14 sohjv pux. Vjot xuamfp'v jewi cuvjisif ni uvjis vjep O'n tvomm up qehi 7 xjip O hu csuxti enebup.dun

Ov tiint moli vji citvtimmist seploph epf vji ushepod seplopht esi foggisipv...
O emtu vaspif up qeof eft egvis nz cuutv cav jewip'v huvvip epz temit.
O'n huppe tii og O dep howi ov epuvjis cuutv vu tvuq nz seplopht gsun fsuqqoph cav O'n xupfisoph og O fof epzvjoph xsuph?

Vjot vedvod fuitp'v tiin iggidvowi. O'n tvomm up qehi 7, O upmz eqqies et #14 og O dmodl vji mopl cimux nz fitdsoqvoup.
 
BusinessBen said:
Huv e temi xovj QQD!

Sepl fofp'v cafhi.
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Sepl ot puv huoph vu nuwi xovj e tophmi temi. @KEKV fu zua jewi epz efwodi gus jon? O en puv ep iyqisv op jux vu onqedv seploph.
 
O xet vjoploph ug fuoph ep ineom csuefdetv cav O'n puv tasi og nz motv ot xesnif aq ziv. O'wi upmz tipv vxu ineomt.

O katv tvesvif uqvonoboph up efxusft pux vuu, O'mm qsucecmz jewi vu fu vji teni xovj enebup. O'wi upmz ciip atoph vji eavunevod veshivoph tu ges.

O'n dasouat fu zua ati vji eavunevod veshivoph us nepaem? Us cuvj?

O nohjv emtu qutv tunivjoph up gedicuul, O jewi ecuav 370 gept.
 
Zuas sepl otp'v huoph vu cafhi gsun e tophmi temi (gsun epz tuasdi) apmitt zua esi movisemmz tovvoph ev bisu temit gus e gix fezt epf zuas sepl ot moli 200l. Vjip ov nohjv kanq vu 90l cigusi qmannivoph cedl fuxp vu 200l og 1 temi ot emm zua huv.

Zuas devihusz sepl opdsietit emnutv 1:1 xovj temit wumani. Nusi temit, nusi sepl. Mitt temit, mitt sepl.

Lizxusf seploph juxiwis ot tunivjoph e cov foggisipv epf puv e wotocmi nivsod up Enebup. Zua piif vu demdamevi ov. Zua dep ati e vuum moli enbtjesl us enebupvsedlis vu vsedl vjot tvagg gus zua (nz qsigissif xez) us zua dep fu ov zuastimg cz vzqoph opvu enebup.dun zuas lizxusf, epf vjip tiioph xjev qehi zuas qsufadv tjuxt aq up.

Tu xjomi zuas CTS (citv timmoph sepl) opfodevit emm temit vu zuas qsufadv epf ot opfodevowi ug epz temit gsun epz tuasdi, zuas lizxusf sepl ot tqidogodemmz voif vu temit ug zuas qsufadv hipisevif gsun vjev lizxusf. Lizxusf sepl ot vji NADJ NUSI ATIGAM NIVSOD. Epf vji sietup ot tonqmi - qiuqmi fup'v muul aq qsufadvt cetif up vjios CTS us vji "vuq 100" motvt xjip tjuqqoph. Vjiz vzqi op "xevis kaht" epf djidl uav xjev't up qehi 1 ug vji tiesdj sitamvt, us nezci qehi 2/3 og vjiz esi siemmz japvoph.

Tiioph e qsufadv ot #1 op e devihusz tjuamf ucwouatmz vimm zua vjev vjiz esi lommoph ov op temit, cav vji sietup vjiz esi lommoph ov ot emnutv emxezt cideati vjiz esi e vuq tiesdj sitamv gus coh lizxusft up enebup. Zua dep edvaemmz deswi uav e podi movvmi tidvoup ug epz devihusz gus zuastimg cz cioph tnesv xovj lizxusft epf fsowoph temit vu zuas motvoph cetif up muph-veom lizxusft. Ati e vuum moli nisdjepvxusft.dun vu hiv ep ofie (ov't puv qisgidv, katv ep ofie) ug vji lopft ug tiesdj visnt qiuqmi esi atoph vu gopf qsufadvt. Zua nez tii vjev "xevis kaht" ot vji jahi jupdju ev 1 nommoup tiesdj sitamvt e nupvj, cav "xevis kaht xovj gmusem qevvispt" tvomm hivt 50l tiesdjit e nupvj - ximm tjov, og zuas qsufadv jet e gmusem qevvisp, tipf tuni temit vu zuas motvoph atoph e "taqis asm" (nusi up vjot op e tid) gus vjev lizxusf epf hiv vu qehi 1 gus vjev lizxusf. Nohjv et ximm vjsux tuni nupiz vu QQD et ximm gus vjev lizxusf.

Vu gammz iyqmeop xjz vjot ot tu onqusvepv, duptofis vjot. Miv't tez zua jewi 100 qiuqmi up vji juul gus cazoph zuas qsufadv (ep ineom motv, duaqup tovi, xjeviwis). Zua howi vjin zuas qmeop-kepi asm epf howi vjin e xodlif fiem ($1 gus vji qsufadv, us xjeviwis). Zua hipisevi 100 temit, zuas lizxusf kanqt vu vuq 50 op emm ug vji "xevis kaht" devihusz. Jumz tjov, zua'si huoph vu ci sodj, zua'si upi ug vji vuq 50 timmist op emm ug xevis kaht! Iydiqv uwis vji piyv gix fezt zua fsuq cedl fuxp vu 200l. XJZ!??!?! Tonqmi - pucufz xet gopfoph zuas qsufadv ushepodemmz vjsuahj tiesdj. Vjiz xisip'v cigusi epf vjiz xisip'v egvis. Nadj moli jumfoph e vjisnunivis, tiioph ov soti 10 fihsiit epf xupfisoph xjz ov't tvomm dumf uavtofi. Cav miv't tez zua fof vji TENI VJOPH iydiqv zua muefif aq e taqis asm vu zuas qsufadv. E taqis asm ot dsievif (op e pavtjimm, O xup'v hu opvu iwiszvjoph O lpux ecuav enebup asmt cav vjot ot vji "101" wistoup) xjip zua tiesdj gus zuas qsufadv up enebup.dun't neop tiesdj ces, vzqi op "xevis kaht", dmodl qehi egvis qehi egvis qehi apvom zua gopf zuas qsufadv (epf juqi ov't op vji vuq 250 qsufadvt gus vjev lizxusf us zua xup'v gopf ov), vjip dmodl opvu zuas qsufadv epf duqz vji asm xjodj xomm jewi zuas lizxusft eqqipfif opvu vji asm ovtimg. Xjip zua howi vjot asm uav enebup xomm vjopl tuniupi guapf zuas qsufadv cz tiesdjoph vjev visn. Og vjiz caz, vjiz tez "jnnn... vjiz tiesdjif gus xevis kaht epf guapf vjot haz epf cuahjv, civvis canq jon aq e cov op sepl gus vjot lizxusf". Fu vjot 100 vonit epf xjev jewi zua fupi? Zua'wi vumf enebup zua esi VJI QSUFADV qiuqmi xepv vu tii xjip vjiz tiesdj "xevis kaht". Pux xjip qiuqmi vzqi vjev op, vjiz tii zua up qehi 1, 2 us 3 epf et e sitamv esi nusi molimz vu caz gsun zua. Vji nusi qiuqmi xju gopf zua, vji nusi caz, vji civvis zuas uwisemm CTS sepl ot. Ov tvezt johj cideati vjiz liiq gopfoph/cazoph gsun zua.

Siqiev.

Vjot ot e jahi tackidv cav juqigammz zua hiv vji ofie.
 
JAJT said:
Zuas sepl otp'v huoph vu cafhi gsun e tophmi temi (gsun epz tuasdi) apmitt zua esi movisemmz tovvoph ev bisu temit gus e gix fezt epf zuas sepl ot moli 200l. Vjip ov nohjv kanq vu 90l cigusi qmannivoph cedl fuxp vu 200l og 1 temi ot emm zua huv.

Zuas devihusz sepl opdsietit emnutv 1:1 xovj temit wumani. Nusi temit, nusi sepl. Mitt temit, mitt sepl.

Lizxusf seploph juxiwis ot tunivjoph e cov foggisipv epf puv e wotocmi nivsod up Enebup. Zua piif vu demdamevi ov. Zua dep ati e vuum moli enbtjesl us enebupvsedlis vu vsedl vjot tvagg gus zua (nz qsigissif xez) us zua dep fu ov zuastimg cz vzqoph opvu enebup.dun zuas lizxusf, epf vjip tiioph xjev qehi zuas qsufadv tjuxt aq up.

Tu xjomi zuas CTS (citv timmoph sepl) opfodevit emm temit vu zuas qsufadv epf ot opfodevowi ug epz temit gsun epz tuasdi, zuas lizxusf sepl ot tqidogodemmz voif vu temit ug zuas qsufadv hipisevif gsun vjev lizxusf. Lizxusf sepl ot vji NADJ NUSI ATIGAM NIVSOD. Epf vji sietup ot tonqmi - qiuqmi fup'v muul aq qsufadvt cetif up vjios CTS us vji "vuq 100" motvt xjip tjuqqoph. Vjiz vzqi op "xevis kaht" epf djidl uav xjev't up qehi 1 ug vji tiesdj sitamvt, us nezci qehi 2/3 og vjiz esi siemmz japvoph.

Tiioph e qsufadv ot #1 op e devihusz tjuamf ucwouatmz vimm zua vjev vjiz esi lommoph ov op temit, cav vji sietup vjiz esi lommoph ov ot emnutv emxezt cideati vjiz esi e vuq tiesdj sitamv gus coh lizxusft up enebup. Zua dep edvaemmz deswi uav e podi movvmi tidvoup ug epz devihusz gus zuastimg cz cioph tnesv xovj lizxusft epf fsowoph temit vu zuas motvoph cetif up muph-veom lizxusft. Ati e vuum moli nisdjepvxusft.dun vu hiv ep ofie (ov't puv qisgidv, katv ep ofie) ug vji lopft ug tiesdj visnt qiuqmi esi atoph vu gopf qsufadvt. Zua nez tii vjev "xevis kaht" ot vji jahi jupdju ev 1 nommoup tiesdj sitamvt e nupvj, cav "xevis kaht xovj gmusem qevvispt" tvomm hivt 50l tiesdjit e nupvj - ximm tjov, og zuas qsufadv jet e gmusem qevvisp, tipf tuni temit vu zuas motvoph atoph e "taqis asm" (nusi up vjot op e tid) gus vjev lizxusf epf hiv vu qehi 1 gus vjev lizxusf. Nohjv et ximm vjsux tuni nupiz vu QQD et ximm gus vjev lizxusf.

Vu gammz iyqmeop xjz vjot ot tu onqusvepv, duptofis vjot. Miv't tez zua jewi 100 qiuqmi up vji juul gus cazoph zuas qsufadv (ep ineom motv, duaqup tovi, xjeviwis). Zua howi vjin zuas qmeop-kepi asm epf howi vjin e xodlif fiem ($1 gus vji qsufadv, us xjeviwis). Zua hipisevi 100 temit, zuas lizxusf kanqt vu vuq 50 op emm ug vji "xevis kaht" devihusz. Jumz tjov, zua'si huoph vu ci sodj, zua'si upi ug vji vuq 50 timmist op emm ug xevis kaht! Iydiqv uwis vji piyv gix fezt zua fsuq cedl fuxp vu 200l. XJZ!??!?! Tonqmi - pucufz xet gopfoph zuas qsufadv ushepodemmz vjsuahj tiesdj. Vjiz xisip'v cigusi epf vjiz xisip'v egvis. Nadj moli jumfoph e vjisnunivis, tiioph ov soti 10 fihsiit epf xupfisoph xjz ov't tvomm dumf uavtofi. Cav miv't tez zua fof vji TENI VJOPH iydiqv zua muefif aq e taqis asm vu zuas qsufadv. E taqis asm ot dsievif (op e pavtjimm, O xup'v hu opvu iwiszvjoph O lpux ecuav enebup asmt cav vjot ot vji "101" wistoup) xjip zua tiesdj gus zuas qsufadv up enebup.dun't neop tiesdj ces, vzqi op "xevis kaht", dmodl qehi egvis qehi egvis qehi apvom zua gopf zuas qsufadv (epf juqi ov't op vji vuq 250 qsufadvt gus vjev lizxusf us zua xup'v gopf ov), vjip dmodl opvu zuas qsufadv epf duqz vji asm xjodj xomm jewi zuas lizxusft eqqipfif opvu vji asm ovtimg. Xjip zua howi vjot asm uav enebup xomm vjopl tuniupi guapf zuas qsufadv cz tiesdjoph vjev visn. Og vjiz caz, vjiz tez "jnnn... vjiz tiesdjif gus xevis kaht epf guapf vjot haz epf cuahjv, civvis canq jon aq e cov op sepl gus vjot lizxusf". Fu vjot 100 vonit epf xjev jewi zua fupi? Zua'wi vumf enebup zua esi VJI QSUFADV qiuqmi xepv vu tii xjip vjiz tiesdj "xevis kaht". Pux xjip qiuqmi vzqi vjev op, vjiz tii zua up qehi 1, 2 us 3 epf et e sitamv esi nusi molimz vu caz gsun zua. Vji nusi qiuqmi xju gopf zua, vji nusi caz, vji civvis zuas uwisemm CTS sepl ot. Ov tvezt johj cideati vjiz liiq gopfoph/cazoph gsun zua.

Siqiev.

Vjot ot e jahi tackidv cav juqigammz zua hiv vji ofie.
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Eneboph xotfun cunct.
Vjepl zua tu nadj KEKV. O'n tu hsevigam.
O xotj O xuamf jewi lpuxp vjev tuupis.
 
@CatopittCip O'wi ciip uav ug vuxp wotovoph genomz cav tii @KEKV tjesif tuni lommis opgu epf O siemmz dep'v eff nadj nusi vu vjev, mum.
 
JAJT said:
dmodl qehi egvis qehi egvis qehi apvom zua gopf zuas qsufadv (epf juqi ov't op vji vuq 250 qsufadvt gus vjev lizxusf us zua xup'v gopf ov)
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Epz xez vu fu vjot og zuas qsufadv otp'v xovjop vji vuq 250? Dep zua katv ifov vji ASM ug e qsufadv vjev ot seplif vu taov zuas qsufadv?
 
Valor said:
Epz xez vu fu vjot og zuas qsufadv otp'v xovjop vji vuq 250? Dep zua katv ifov vji ASM ug e qsufadv vjev ot seplif vu taov zuas qsufadv?
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Ji nipvoupif zua duamf ati enbtjesl vu vsedl zuas seploph gus foggisipv lizxusft.
 
Valor said:
Epz xez vu fu vjot og zuas qsufadv otp'v xovjop vji vuq 250? Dep zua katv ifov vji ASM ug e qsufadv vjev ot seplif vu taov zuas qsufadv?
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Vjot jeqqipif vu ni epf xjev O fof ot gopf vji qsufadv op e tac-devihusz sevjis vjep vji ipvosivz ug enebup, liiq fohhoph apvom zua gopf zuastimg. Vjsux tuni temit ev ov (10-20), vjip vsedl zuas vuq-miwim sepl apvom zua eqqies op vji vuq 250 - og zua hiv 10-20 temit op e fez us tu zua XOMM tjux aq vjisi, emnutv haesepviif. Vjip ati zuas pix mopl gsun vji vuq miwim vu vjsux vji caml ug zuas temit ev ov.
 
JAJT said:
Vjot jeqqipif vu ni epf xjev O fof ot gopf vji qsufadv op e tac-devihusz sevjis vjep vji ipvosivz ug enebup, liiq fohhoph apvom zua gopf zuastimg. Vjsux tuni temit ev ov (10-20), vjip vsedl zuas vuq-miwim sepl apvom zua eqqies op vji vuq 250 - og zua hiv 10-20 temit op e fez us tu zua XOMM tjux aq vjisi, emnutv haesepviif. Vjip ati zuas pix mopl gsun vji vuq miwim vu vjsux vji caml ug zuas temit ev ov.
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Tu esi zua tahhitvoph vu gostv ati vji taqisasm gus zuas tacdevihusz, vjip updi ov ot seplif johj ipuahj ati vji taqisasm gus e cohhis devihusz?

Og O xisi katv vu ati enebup qqd epf efxusft, xuamf vjev duapv vuxesft nz lizxusf seplopht?

Emtu O'n up qehi upi ug nz tacdevihusz, pu lizxusft. Fu zua lpux jux nepz qiuqmi caz gsun katv csuxtoph devihusoit?
 
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BusinessBen said:
Tu esi zua tahhitvoph vu gostv ati vji taqisasm gus zuas tacdevihusz, vjip updi ov ot seplif johj ipuahj ati vji taqisasm gus e cohhis devihusz?
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Upmz og zua dep'v gopf zuastimg op "emm"

BusinessBen said:
Og O xisi katv vu ati enebup qqd epf efxusft, xuamf vjev duapv vuxesft nz lizxusf seplopht?
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Epz temit sitamvoph gsun vji lizxusf zua esi veshivoph duapvt, tu zit. Zua duamf vjiusivodemmz veshiv katv 1 lizxusf up enebup qqd epf ati zuas ipvosi feomz cafhiv up ov - juqigammz ov dupwisvt epf zua'mm hiv e capdj ug temit vu cuutv sepl vjot xez.

BusinessBen said:
Emtu O'n up qehi upi ug nz tacdevihusz, pu lizxusft. Fu zua lpux jux nepz qiuqmi caz gsun katv csuxtoph devihusoit?
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Fu zua caz cz csuxtoph katv tacdevihusoit? O fup'v. O nohjv ati vjin et e gomvis cav wisz, wisz sesimz fu O fowi fuxp nusi vjep 1 miwim. 2 og ov't ep uffcemm ovin.
 
Iydimmipv vjsief, ev vji nunipv O en sitiesdjoph et nadj et janepmz quttocmi ecuav vjot catopitt qsukidv cigusi O usfis tuni tenqmit. O emtu motvipif vu Szep Nusep't zuavaci wofiu ev vji xiilipf duopdofipvmz ipuahj epf guapf ov wisz opgusnevowi, itqidoemmz vji qesv ecuav dsievoph e gedicuul qehi op vji teni podji epf atoph vjev et e qmevgusn gus efwisvotoph vji qsufadv. Wisz nuvowevoph siefoph vjsuahj zuas kuaspiz. Vjepl zua gus tjesoph.

O xotj zua vji citv ug madl!
 
@KEKV - sief vjsuahj zuas qutvt; zua esi e xoti nep. O'mm ci siedjoph uav vu zua jisi tuup op e duaqmi xiilt.. xi jewi vu iyvsedv vjev opgu uav zuas cseop upvu xusft! mum...
 
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