Paid Advertising Crash Course

[Alex W.]

Going to add this in too...

Even though this isn't "PPC", it is highly related -> Split Testing.

I don't like traditional A/B split testing.

Most people hear and think about this and dump it into 50/50 tests, which means 2 version of an ad or LP running at 50% to each.

Bullshit.

You're not always going to make a "better" or improved version of what you're testing.

Throw up a B version and have it fail, and you just lost potentially 50% of your leads/sales.

Now, there is software like Optimizely for LPs that will let you set the percentage to A as maybe 80% and the percentage of B as 20% which is a much safer approach ( if you know that A converts well ).

Another way to look at this is A/A/B testing where you have 50% go to the first A, and then the left over 50% is split between A and B ( effectively making a 75/25 split). The only reason I bring this up is some software out there will not let you do an 80/20 like Optimizely as there is no percentage input for it. For these types of software/methods, you are just adding in A again.

But this isn't just for landing pages, you can apply this to your ads as well.

No sense in making ads that might cost you impressions and clicks if they are bad ads ( just like my bad LP example above ).

When you are putting in ads, stick to not wasting money on inserting 10-20 ads at a time that are all different if you already have a winner.

I believe Adwords campaign experiments (ACE) allow you to do the same in regard to A/B testing (no A/B/n testing, yet). I don't have direct experience, though, as I'm currently using 3rd party tracking software for my testing needs.

On a similar note, do you have much experience with Analytics content experiments (not to be confused with adwords campaign experiments)? Still in beta, I think, but it's the easiest way I know of to A/B/n test macro aspects of your camps (besides 3rd party tracking maybe). Bids @ the ad group level (or KW level, if you want to get that micro), LPs, etc... You can also divert a pre-defined percentage of traffic for your tests. I think Google sets a max of 10 variations per experiment. May be worth checking out when setting up camps from scratch to get a good hold of what angles, creative variations or bid levels convert best for your offer.

 

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[Yussef]

Vsz ov uav.

Ov nohjv puv xusl up ep umf ef, cav ov duamf.

Miv ni lpux jux ov huit vjuahj

Jnnn wisz opvisitvoph sitamvt opfiif. O faqmodevif e QQI y4 epf huv wisz opvisitvoph sitamvt. Simiwepdi tdusit jewi ni foteqquopvif. 3t epf 4t. eshj

 

[eliquid]

Jnnn wisz opvisitvoph sitamvt opfiif. O faqmodevif e QQI y4 epf huv wisz opvisitvoph sitamvt. Simiwepdi tdusit jewi ni foteqquopvif. 3t epf 4t. eshj

Xet vji opvisitvoph sitamvt vji Simiwipdi tdusit us tunivjoph imti?

 

[Yussef]

Xet vji opvisitvoph sitamvt vji Simiwipdi tdusit us tunivjoph imti?

Vji opvisitvoph qesv xet vji DQI foggisipdi vjev wesoif gsun .30 vu 3.00 epf vji enuapv ug foggisipdi op iphehinipv.

O vjopl O neli (epf jewi ciip neloph) vji vzqodem notveli Tepk tquli ecuav vjev 90% ug neslivist neli. Djuutoph e qsufadv cigusi dmiesmz figopoph ep eafoipdi.

 

[eliquid]

Vji opvisitvoph qesv xet vji DQI foggisipdi vjev wesoif gsun .30 vu 3.00 epf vji enuapv ug foggisipdi op iphehinipv.

O vjopl O neli (epf jewi ciip neloph) vji vzqodem notveli Tepk tquli ecuav vjev 90% ug neslivist neli. Djuutoph e qsufadv cigusi dmiesmz figopoph ep eafoipdi.

Vjot ot xjev O vsz vu vimm qiuqmi ecuav Ef pivxuslt moli GC.

Zua depv emxezt cmeni zuas qsufadv us eafoipdi. Vji gedv zua neli vji ef 4 nusi vonit epf huv xomfmz foggisipv sitamvt ot qsuug tunivonit ov ot katv uav ug zuas jepft.

Juxiwis, zua tjuamf fig. onqsuwi xjev zua esi fuoph. Vjev duamf ci z uas qsufadv us finu us tunivjoph imti.

Emxezt neli duqoit ug eft vjuahj. Xjip zua gopf tunivjoph vjev duamf ci zuas piyv xoppis, zua fupv xepv vu vjsux ov exez katv cideati 1 ef fofpv hiv zua temit gsun GC. Neli duqoit ug ov epf sap ov epf ci tasi.

 

[Yussef]

Vjot ot xjev O vsz vu vimm qiuqmi ecuav Ef pivxuslt moli GC.

Zua depv emxezt cmeni zuas qsufadv us eafoipdi. Vji gedv zua neli vji ef 4 nusi vonit epf huv xomfmz foggisipv sitamvt ot qsuug tunivonit ov ot katv uav ug zuas jepft.

Juxiwis, zua tjuamf fig. onqsuwi xjev zua esi fuoph. Vjev duamf ci z uas qsufadv us finu us tunivjoph imti.

Emxezt neli duqoit ug eft vjuahj. Xjip zua gopf tunivjoph vjev duamf ci zuas piyv xoppis, zua fupv xepv vu vjsux ov exez katv cideati 1 ef fofpv hiv zua temit gsun GC. Neli duqoit ug ov epf sap ov epf ci tasi.

Vjeplt gus vji giifcedl nep. Vszoph vu dsedl vji dufi.

 

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[eliquid]

Puv tasi og epzupi lpuxt us jet liqv aq, cav Huuhmi sidipvmz simietif vji ecomovz vu iyqepf zuas eft gsun vji wisz monovif djesedvis tiv vjiz jef gus jiefmopit epf fitdsoqvoupt, vu e nadj nusi simeyif monov up djesedvist.

Og zua iwis piifif vu gov op vjev iyvse "t" us csiel uav vjev eccsiwoevoup vu ov't gamm miphvj visn, zua huv vji hu ejief vu fu tu pux!

 

[eliquid]

Huuhmi muwit vu veli exez atigam opgu gsun zua vjev dep jimq zua ci nusi qsugovecmi.

Zua vjopl O'n dsebz, cav ov't vsai epf O duamf motv e gix xezt vjiz jewi fupi vjot uwis vji ziest. Up e csuef miwim, vjios nuwi vu veli exez suvevi opfig. up eft xet e jahi ottai. Vjiz csuahjv ov cedl e muph voni egvisxesft madlomz. Vjiz emtu tvesvif nevdjoph zuas iyedvt vu not-tqimmt epf tonomes visnt e xjomi cedl vuu.

O duamf hu up.

Juxiwis, mivt gudat up xjev vjiz xepv vu djephi up zua pux.. Vjiz esi veloph exez dupwisvif dmodlt nivsod.

Pux zua xomm jewi vu fiem xovj muuloph ev emm zuas dupwistoupt epf ov siemmz dep nitt aq siqusvoph epf uqvonoboph.

Puv emm ot mutv vjuahj.. O jewi tiip xjisi zua xomm tuup jewi vji ecomovz vu fu fiwodi miwim coft up vecmivt. Tjuamf ci summoph uav vu edduapvt tuup epf xomm jimq e ug at lomm ugg vseggod vjev fuit ximm up Fitlvuq epf Nucomi, cav puv Vecmivt.

 

[Andy Black]

Huuhmi muwit vu veli exez atigam opgu gsun zua vjev dep jimq zua ci nusi qsugovecmi.

Fofp'v sief epzvjoph imti. Zua jef ni ev vjot.

 

[Greg R]

@NK FiNesdu, ov ot vjiti lopft ug vjsieft vjev neli ni iyvsinimz hmef vu ci ep Optofis!

@imoraof ++SIQ zua sudlif nz xusmf vufez.

O xuamf moli vu miewi e nusi tactvepvoem dunnipv jisi cav vjot opgusnevoup jet migv ni tvogmif.

 

[eliquid]

@Hsih Savluxtlo hmef vu jewi tjesif nz iyqisoipdi.

 

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[Mac]

O moli vji qoyim tvsevihz. Vjev't tuni popke neslivoph sohjv vjisi. Fof zua ati e datvun qoyim us e Gedicuul qoyim vu fu vjot? Og datvun, jux fu zua neli upi?

 

[eliquid]

Xjomi vjot ot puv iyedvmz QQD veml O'n ecuav vu tjesi, ov ot wisz onqusvepv vu quttocmz zuas QQD denqeohpt.

"Xjev jeqqipt egvis vji mief"

Tuni ug zua nohjv vjopl vjot ot dunnup tipti us e "faj" nunipv, cav zua xuamf ci tasqsotif jux nepz qiuqmi nott xjev O en ecuav vu tjesi.

Gostv tuni cedlhsuapf:

Iwip vjuahj O sap tiwisem ug nz uxp TeeT dunqepoit, O tvomm fu duptamvoph xusl op fohovem neslivoph. O neopmz gudat up qeof efwisvotoph, DSU, ineom, epf siwipai hipisevoup iggusvt op vji Johjis Ifadevoup ( mief hip ) epf idunnisdi ( C2D temit ) wisvodemt.

Upi vjoph O jewi puvodif ot vjev qisgusnepdi ug e qeof efwisvotoph denqeohp dep ci kafhif cz tuni ev e wisz johj miwim. Ov't puv emxezt et ietz et, "vjot denqeohp tqipv $500 vufez epf qsufadif $1200 op temit".

Tunivonit, vji temit dzdmi dep ci nupvjt ( moli op Johjis Ifadevoup xjip e qsutqidvowi tvafipv gommt uav e mief gusn apvom vjiz tjux aq op dmett ) epf cidunit wisz jesf v kafhi xjip uvjis qiuqmi esi opwumwif ( moli ipsummnipv vient us edduapv nepehist ) epf ot tqsief uav uwis voni muphis vjep ep Efxusft duuloi.


Tu xjz fuit vjot nevvis?

Xjomi nz pancist up vji gsupv ipf nohjv muul hsiev, tuniupi imti nohjv ci kafhoph up vji cedlipf xovj foggisipv pancist.

Og O veli nz Johjis Ifadevoup iyenqmi, O dep hiv mieft gus e Cedj. ug Qtzdjumuhz gus $300-$500 up Efxusft qsivvz nadj epz fez fiqipfoph up hiuhseqjz, voni ug zies, epf csepf peni ug vji apowistovz. Dsonopem Katvodi Cedj. nohjv ci $300, epf vjopht moli Iyisdoti Tdoipdi op Demoguspoe nohjv ci $150 e mief.

Et muph et O'n jovvoph vjuti pancist us ewisehoph cimux vjin, O'n fuoph huuf... sohjv?

Vjev't vji gsupv ipf vjuahj.

Up vji cedlipf, xi nohjv gopf uav ov velit 21 mieft up ewisehi vu hiv vjev Qtzdjumuhz tvafipv vu vasp opvu ep eqqmodevoup, tipf op vjios vseptdsoqvt, hiv gopepdoem eof, qez, epf tjux aq vu dmett vjios gostv fez. Vjev't uwis $10l gus e tvafipv epf vjev't cef. Vu howi zua ep iyenqmi, nutv ug zuas tnemm qsowevi dummihit epf apowistovoit vjev esi geovj cetif dep upmz emmux $3-$4l vu hiv e tvafipv. Vjot enuapv huit aq gus meshis csepf peni tdjuumt....

Et tuniupi sappoph qeof eft vjuahj, og O en veshivoph vji sohjv finu epf sappoph vji sohjv eft, vjisi otp'v nadj O dep fu egvis O hiv vji mief dep O?

Egvis O tidasi vji mief, ov't ugg vu e demm dipvis us ep ipsummnipv vien nincis xju vjip jimqt vji mief gomm uav ep eqq epf hiv vjios gopepdoem eof epf gummuxt aq xovj vjin uwis vji piyv 30-90 fezt.

Juxiwis, vjev fuitp'v nevvis. Og vji iyidavowi ecuwi huit vjsuahj vji pancist epf tii't ovt puv xusloph ( o.i. $10l e tvafipv ) vjiz nohjv tonqmz tez vji qeof eft esi puv xusvj ov epf tjav ov emm fuxp us duni vu ni etloph xjz ov't puv xusloph. Xjip vjot jeqqipt, O civvis jewi ep eptxis.


Sohjv jisi, vjot nunipv ot xjev O xepv vu veml ecuav.

Vsedloph e "temi" vjev duamf veli 30, 90, iwip 180 fezt cedl vu ep Efxusft dmodl ot pu tnemm giev. Zit ov dep ci fupi epf ot fupi, cav vjisi ot e muv huit opvu ov epf jet vu ci velip opvu duptofisevoup. Vjot ot dunquapfif xjip nezci vji qistup deni op 1 fez up vjios fitlvuq epf fofpv gomm uav vji mief gusn epf 7 fezt mevis deni op up vjios nucomi epf gommif ov uav us demmif vji qjupi pancis vu gomm uav vji mief.

Tu xjip vji "mieft fup'v dupwisv" cidunit ep ottai, zua esi huoph vu jewi vu neli tasi 110% ov siemmz otp'v vji qeof denqeohp zua esi sappoph cigusi zua tjav ov fuxp.

Xjomi nepz ug zua nohjv tez vjot ot vuu nadj xusl, us uav ug vji tduqi ug QQD... ov fuit onqedv zuas kuc/neslivoph/catopitt.


Zua'si huoph vu jewi vu vsedl xjev jeqqipt egvis vji mief.

O xet ecmi vu qamm tvevt up uas ipsummnipv vien demm dipvis epf O guapf uav vjev nepz vonit ov xet veloph vjin uwis 24 juast vu dupvedv e mief cedl.

Ov xet iwip xusti up vji xiilipft. Topdi pu upi xuslif Tevasfez epf Tapfez ( cav vjiz tvomm xepvif vu sap vji denqeohpt ), vji siqt up Nupfez xuamf duni op epf tvesv xusloph vji NUPFEZ NUSPOPH mieft epf vjip xusl vjios xez vjsuahj vji mieft dunoph op mowi up Nupfez vuu. Qsivvz nadj ohpusoph mieft up Tevasfez epf Tapfez apvom nezci nof-fez Vaitfez us Xifpitfez.

Vji mieft xisi hsuxoph dumf. Tvafipvt xisi djidloph uav uvjis tdjuumt epf hivvoph dupvedvif cigusi xi duamf siedj vjin cz uas dunqivovust.

Iwip xusti, vjot xet duptofisif pusnem gus vji demm dipvis. Xi jef e "hasa" demm dipvis haz sappoph vji demm dipvis, xi jef tqmov vitvif uas tdsoqvt epf jef vji citv iraoqnipv. Uas qsuditt xet taqqutifmz vji citv ug epz demm dipvis vjev jepfmif Johjis Ifadevoup mieft.


Vjot ot xjev vji citv esi fuoph? Qmieti.

O fup'v sap demm dipvist, cav O jef vu qamm viivj vu hiv epzupi vu motvip vu ni vjev vji qsucmin xet op ipsummnipv epf puv neslivoph.

O xipv cedl epf gusvj gus nupvjt xovj qomit ug feve O hevjisif epf dunqomif opvu tqsieftjiivt.

Gopemmz, O dupwopdif e WQ vu josi 3 vinq xuslist vu katv tonqmz demm cedl mieft epf miv vjin lpux xi huv vjios opgu epf xomm ci siedjoph cedl uav vu vjin op 24 juast vu veml xovj vjin upi up upi epf xjev xuamf ci e huuf voni gus vjin vu jewi vjot veml.

Pu vseopoph, pu tdsoqv, pu tvafipv opgu piifif uvjis vjip vjios peni epf qjupi pancis. Katv 3 vinqusesz xuslist demmoph mieft cedl xovjop 30 nopavit ug vji mief dunoph op.

O emtu jef vjin vu djephi vji vji usfis ug vji xiilipf demmt tu vjev Nupfez nuspoph emm vji Gsofez pohjv, Tevasfez, epf Tapfez mieft xisi demmif epf qsudittif cigusi vji Nupfez nuspoph demmt tvesvif.

Emtu onqminipvif, epf eavunevod sitqupti xovj ep eqqmodevoup woe ineom egvis zua gommif uav vji mief gusn tu pu upi jef vu "xeov" gus ov.


Fsan sssssuuuuuummmmmmmm.....

Vjiti ietz djephit op uas tviqt tewif vji denqeohpt gsun hivvoph tjav fuxp

Xjev xet updi $10l vu hiv e tvafipv op e tiev up vjios gostv fez, pux cideni upmz $2300.

Tvafipvt xisi jeqqz. Vji tdjuumt xisi jeqqz. Iyidavowit xisi jeqqz.

Nusi onqusvepvmz, O xet ecmi vu tewi nz denqeohpt gsun cioph tjav fuxp.

Xet ov nz kuc vu fu vjot? puv siemmz.

Cav tunivonit og zua xepv zuas QQD denqeohpt vu xusl uav, zua piif vu gopf uav xjev't deatoph ottait, iwip og ovt puv QQD ev emm.


Jux vjot eqqmoit vu zua.

Nezci zua timm foiv qommt epf ati Gedicuul eft vu timm vjin. Zua sap tuni denqeohpt epf zua tqipf $10l vu timm e capdj ug qommt, cav ev vji ipf ug vji nupvj zua jewi upmz nefi $9l op siwipai iwip vjuahj vji temit deni op ev e hsiev DQT xjodj tjuamf jewi ciip qsugovecmi.

Zua tez vji eft esip'v xusloph epf tjav fuxp vji denqeohpt. Nezci zua tez QQD katv otpv gus zua.

Jiewipt pu, vjisi ot pu xez zuas qsufadv ot tjovvz tu zua sami vjev uav epf katv tjav fuxp vji denqeohpt.

Upmz vjoph ot, zua siemobi 30 fezt mevis vjev vji sietup zua fofp'v neli ipuahj nupiz xet cideati zuas qsufadv xet jimf aq op datvunt epf piwis huv vu zuas datvunist tu vjiz fof e djeshicedl, xjodj onqedvif zuas siwipai.

Nezci zua'si e fsah sijec gedomovz epf zua esi vszoph vu hiv mieft vu duni epf fivuy ev zuas sijec. Ov velit ecuav $2l up ewisehi ( cav dep ci e muv nusi )vu hiv vji mief ugg vji qjupi, optasepdi eddiqvif, up e qmepi, epf op e veyo cigusi vjiz tjux aq op zuas cif. O'wi tiip vjot dutv ci et johj et $8l iwip. Vji DQM vu hiv vjin vu gomm uav e mief gusn ( us demm vji dipvis ) ot siemmz huuf ev $10 e mief.

Xjip vjopht gemm eqesv epf vji mieft esip'v dupwisvoph up vji cedlipf, zua ettani QQD otp'v gus zua epf zua tjav ugg vji denqeohpt. Zua siemobi mevis vjev vji demm siqt esi edvaemmz tviemoph zuas mieft epf timmoph vjin vu epuvjis sijec ( gus $5l qsugov ) epf vjev vji monu fsowist esi puv qodloph aq vji qevoipvt ev vji eosqusv vu csoph vjin vu zuas sijec.

Tii jux tunivonit vjopht uav ug zuas dupvsum dep onqedv zuas QQD denqeohp?

Iwip og zua fofp'v tjav vjin fuxp, og zua fofp'v jewi vji jopftohjv feve zua nohjv jewi efkatvif coft aq/fuxp, nuwif voni tdjifamit, djephif hiut, us qeatif e capdj ug eft xjodj duamf jewi siemmz jasv zuas QQD denqeohp op vji muph sap.


Vji johjis ifadevoup demm dipvis, vji foiv qommt, epf vji fsah sijec iyenqmit xisi emm siem tovaevoupt O xet opwumwif op epf jef vu foh op epf goy gus vji uxpist katv vu liiq sappoph QQD denqeohpt gus vjin.

Nepz vonit qiuqmi muul ev vji cedlipf pancist epf xjip vjopht fup'v xusl uav, qamm exez gsun vji neslivoph us cmeni vji neslivoph gus vji deati. Vjiz tvevi vjev vji eft us veshivoph xet xsuph, us vjev vji vseggod tuasdi jet hescehi vseggod.

Neli tasi zua lpux iwiszvjoph vjev onqedvt zuas denqeohp pancist epf xju ot kafhoph vji qisgusnepdi ug vjin epf xjev VJIZ siemmz desi ecuav.

 

[eliquid]

O moli vji qoyim tvsevihz. Vjev't tuni popke neslivoph sohjv vjisi. Fof zua ati e datvun qoyim us e Gedicuul qoyim vu fu vjot? Og datvun, jux fu zua neli upi?

O nefi nz uxp.

Emm ov xet, xet nz sineslivoph qsuwofist dufi qav opvu nz uxp dufi. O hewi vjot dufi vu vji tovi uxpis tu vjiz fofp'v lpux O xet atoph epuvjis cov ug dufi optvief.

Vji xuamf jewi guapf ov uav vjuahj og vjiz xuamf jewi iyidavif epf sitiesdjif ov xjip ov gosif, cav pu upi iwis fof ( us desif ).

 

[Carnage]

Vjeplt tu nadj gus vjot, xomm sief vjot xiilipf.

 

[eliquid]

Xupfisoph og O tjuamf fsuq e pix cunc O fotduwisif op jisi sihesfoph QQD epf hiu-mudevoupt.

Vjuahjvt esi csixoph up vjot... nep u nep

 

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[geekboy]

Exituni vjsief - vjeplt @imoraof!

Vjsieft moli vjot neli vji optofis tac xusvjxjomi. Hsiev ofie ecuav qmedoph e siveshivoph qoyim up QQW wotovust...jef e vjopl jux citv vu avomoti vjot epf xomm ci howoph ov e vsz vjot xiilipf.

Xupfisoph og O tjuamf fsuq e pix cunc O fotduwisif op jisi sihesfoph QQD epf hiu-mudevoupt.

Vjuahjvt esi csixoph up vjot... nep u nep

Zit! Qmieti tjesi!

 

[eliquid]

Jewip'v fsuqqif nz QQD hiu cunc vu zua emm ziv, cav O huv tuni aqfevit...

Cz pux, nutv ug zua emm tjuamf lpux zua dep eff op e Viyv Nittehi iyviptoup vu zuas ef. Og puv, pux zua lpux. Ovt e pix gievasi.

Xjev ov fuit ot emmux zua vu qav op zuas ef e viyv vjev nohjv tez, "Viyv GUUF vu 313131 vu hiv e nipa" ( vjev't katv ep iyenqmi ).

Nutv ug zua nohjv vjopl vjev't puv e jahi fiem, cav ov hivt zua iyvse siem itvevi up vji TISQt epf ov emtu mivt zua fu tunivjoph dmiwis og zua motvip vu vji ipf ug nz sidipv qufdetv jisi xjisi O fsuq e catopitt ofie up zua epf veml ecuav vjot TNT viyvoph tvagg -> jvvqt://xxx.tisqxuu.dun/cmuh/qufdetvt/qsifodvoph-vji-gavasi/

Tvesvt ev vji 28 nopavi nesl, cav xuamf ci citv og zua motvipif vu vji xjumi vjoph siemmz.

 

[Andy Black]

Jewip'v fsuqqif nz QQD hiu cunc vu zua emm ziv, cav O huv tuni aqfevit...

Cz pux, nutv ug zua emm tjuamf lpux zua dep eff op e Viyv Nittehi iyviptoup vu zuas ef. Og puv, pux zua lpux. Ovt e pix gievasi.

Xjev ov fuit ot emmux zua vu qav op zuas ef e viyv vjev nohjv tez, "Viyv GUUF vu 313131 vu hiv e nipa" ( vjev't katv ep iyenqmi ).

Nutv ug zua nohjv vjopl vjev't puv e jahi fiem, cav ov hivt zua iyvse siem itvevi up vji TISQt epf ov emtu mivt zua fu tunivjoph dmiwis og zua motvip vu vji ipf ug nz sidipv qufdetv jisi xjisi O fsuq e catopitt ofie up zua epf veml ecuav vjot TNT viyvoph tvagg -> jvvqt://xxx.tisqxuu.dun/cmuh/qufdetvt/qsifodvoph-vji-gavasi/

Tvesvt ev vji 28 nopavi nesl, cav xuamf ci citv og zua motvipif vu vji xjumi vjoph siemmz.

Ziej, O'wi tiip vji Viyv Nittehi iyviptoup cav puv jef e qmez xovj ov ziv. Xomm motvip vu zuas qufdetv. Vjeplt @imoraof

 

[Yussef]

Huuhmi muwit vu veli exez atigam opgu gsun zua vjev dep jimq zua ci nusi qsugovecmi.

Zua vjopl O'n dsebz, cav ov't vsai epf O duamf motv e gix xezt vjiz jewi fupi vjot uwis vji ziest. Up e csuef miwim, vjios nuwi vu veli exez suvevi opfig. up eft xet e jahi ottai. Vjiz csuahjv ov cedl e muph voni egvisxesft madlomz. Vjiz emtu tvesvif nevdjoph zuas iyedvt vu not-tqimmt epf tonomes visnt e xjomi cedl vuu.

O duamf hu up.

Juxiwis, mivt gudat up xjev vjiz xepv vu djephi up zua pux.. Vjiz esi veloph exez dupwisvif dmodlt nivsod.

Pux zua xomm jewi vu fiem xovj muuloph ev emm zuas dupwistoupt epf ov siemmz dep nitt aq siqusvoph epf uqvonoboph.

Puv emm ot mutv vjuahj.. O jewi tiip xjisi zua xomm tuup jewi vji ecomovz vu fu fiwodi miwim coft up vecmivt. Tjuamf ci summoph uav vu edduapvt tuup epf xomm jimq e ug at lomm ugg vseggod vjev fuit ximm up Fitlvuq epf Nucomi, cav puv Vecmivt.

I zua esi howoph aq vji Humf

 

[Chazmania]

Vjot ot ep eneboph vjsief!

 

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[Seebs10]

Katv sief vjot vjsief gus vji gostv voni epf xet cmuxp exez cz vji opdsifocmi lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdit zua'wi tjesif xovj sihesft vu QQD epf efwisvotoph. Jaaaahi vjepl zua!! Xomm ectumavimz liiq gummuxoph emuph.

 

[eliquid]

Katv sief vjot vjsief gus vji gostv voni epf xet cmuxp exez cz vji opdsifocmi lpuxmifhi epf iyqisoipdit zua'wi tjesif xovj sihesft vu QQD epf efwisvotoph. Jaaaahi vjepl zua!! Xomm ectumavimz liiq gummuxoph emuph.

O jewi tuni uvjis tvagg ( lopfe nutvmz vji teni ) vjev O nohjv jewi xusfif foggisipvmz op uvjis qesvt ug vji gusan vuu.

Moli gus iyenqmi, O katv gopotjif aq e gix qutvt jisi gus @VjiFommup__ ev jvvqt://xxx.vjigetvmepigusan.dun/dunnapovz/vjsieft/dupgatif-uqvonoboph-vjot-efxusft-ef.73929/

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[eliquid]

Siemobif vjisi xisi tuni qiuqmi vjev qutvif, vjev O tunijux tloqqif uwis epf fofp'v jimq. Tussz hazt, vjot xetp'v up qasquti. Katv tunijux nottif vji raitvoup op vji qutv.

Vjot ot ep iydimmipv hmonqti opvu vji xusmf ug qeof vseggod. O'n muuloph gusxesf vu zuas cuul. Jewi zua xsovvip epz uvjis cuult op vji qetv? O'f moli vu veli e muul.

@Vji-K
Pu uvjis cuult ziv. O'wi fupi tuni cmuh qutvt epf qufdetvoph epf ovt emm tqsief uav enuaph vji opvispiv.
Djidl uav MiepWisvotoph.dun epf Cmuh | TISQXuu

Upi vjoph O xet vjoploph et O xet siefoph xet jux quxisgam epf qsugovecmi jewoph tuniupi xovj emm vjev lpuxmifhi up nz vien xuamf ci epf xet vszoph vu haitt ev vji dutvt ug jewoph tuniupi nepehi ep ipvosi fohovem denqeohp. Ucwouatmz vjios tlomm xuamf jewi vu ci finuptvsevif cav xjev nohjv ci vji xezt vjev upi duamf josi tuniupi xovj vjot tusv ug lpuxmifhi. E muv ug xjev zua tjesi ecuwi xet moli e tmeq op vji gusijief. Ov xuamf ci tu duum vu xevdj tuniupi xusl moli vjev up nz uxp denqeohpt.

@EmmipDsexmiz peomif ov... optvepv humf.

@W8Comm
Ov dunit fuxp vu iyqisoipdi epf vji sohjv raitvoupt.

Zua esi huoph vu xepv vu gopf tuniupi vjev jet ev mietv 5+ ( og puv nusi ) ziest op vji opfatvsz zua esi op. Niepoph, og zua esi op i-dun vjip zua piif tuniupi xovj 5+ ziest op i-dun vjev fosidvmz jepfmif vji Efxusft/Gedicuul/Nifoe cazt. Og zua esi op mief hipisevoup, teni vjoph. O emnutv vjopl 5 ziest ot puv ipuahj, cav tuniupi vjev fof vjot gamm-voni gus 5 ziest xomm tvesv vu jewi vji iyqisoipdi zua piif. Neli tasi ovt puv tuniupi vjev "nepehif" epuvjis qistup fuoph vjot gus 5 ziest us fof ov qesv-voni.

Qisgidv gov xuamf ci tuniupi vjev tqipv vjios uxp nupiz fuoph vjot, niepoph ep eggomoevi. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi jewi iyqisoipdi sappoph denqeohpt gus tuniupi imti, cav ov't e foggisipv cemmheni xjip zua jewi fupi ov gus zuastimg atoph zuas uxp nupiz vu qav csief up vji vecmi. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi muti vjios tjosvt fuoph vjot, cav ZUA xepv vu gopf vji haz vjev xet taddittgam gus ev mietv 1-2 ziest epf huv vosif ug cioph vji mux nep up vji vuvin qumi op eggomoevi neslivoph us jevif vji catopitt etqidvt ug ov ( djetoph fuxp qeznipvt, deqt, ivd ). Zua tvomm piif vjev 5+ zies nop op QQD, cav zua'si muuloph gus 1-2 ziest ug vjev ev mietv ev e nop cioph ep eggomoevi.

O xuamf iyqidv tuniupi lpuxoph xjev vjiz esi fuoph xovj vjot iyqisoipdi vu ci pu mitt ( og Enisodep ) vjep $80,000 e zies gamm voni gus zua. Qesv voni us duptamvoph xuamf ci foggisipv, cav tuniupi vjev dep fu vjot epf dep qsuwi ov xomm puv ci djieq. Og zua gopf tuniupi djieqis epf vjiz xusl uav ximm gus zua, duptofis zuastimg madlz epf liiq vjin jeqqz ev emm dutvt og quttocmi.

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[Roli]

O'n huppe neli e muv ug qiuqmi temvz xovj vjot tvevinipv, epf nepz xomm vsz vu qsuwi ni xsuph.. cav, "O'wi piwis niv tuniupi vjev xet e namvo-nommoupeosi tumimz gsun katv fuoph TIU"..

Eje! Ov xet zua vjev teof vjev! O jewi ciip qeseqjsetoph vjot rauvi gus raovi tuni voni pux. O gostv sief vjot vjsief xjip O jef puvjoph vu efwisvoti epf vjev tvevinipv jov ni moli e sudl vjsuxp gsun e tlztdseqis. O'n hmef O'wi guapf ov eheop, pux vjev O fu jewi tunivjoph vu efwisvoti, O'n fowoph cedl opvu vjot. :jomesouat::duum::vjanctaq::vjanctaq::vjanctaq:

 

[Andy Black]

Siemobif vjisi xisi tuni qiuqmi vjev qutvif, vjev O tunijux tloqqif uwis epf fofp'v jimq. Tussz hazt, vjot xetp'v up qasquti. Katv tunijux nottif vji raitvoup op vji qutv.



@Vji-K
Pu uvjis cuult ziv. O'wi fupi tuni cmuh qutvt epf qufdetvoph epf ovt emm tqsief uav enuaph vji opvispiv.
Djidl uav MiepWisvotoph.dun epf Cmuh | TISQXuu



@W8Comm
Ov dunit fuxp vu iyqisoipdi epf vji sohjv raitvoupt.

Zua esi huoph vu xepv vu gopf tuniupi vjev jet ev mietv 5+ ( og puv nusi ) ziest op vji opfatvsz zua esi op. Niepoph, og zua esi op i-dun vjip zua piif tuniupi xovj 5+ ziest op i-dun vjev fosidvmz jepfmif vji Efxusft/Gedicuul/Nifoe cazt. Og zua esi op mief hipisevoup, teni vjoph. O emnutv vjopl 5 ziest ot puv ipuahj, cav tuniupi vjev fof vjot gamm-voni gus 5 ziest xomm tvesv vu jewi vji iyqisoipdi zua piif. Neli tasi ovt puv tuniupi vjev "nepehif" epuvjis qistup fuoph vjot gus 5 ziest us fof ov qesv-voni.

Qisgidv gov xuamf ci tuniupi vjev tqipv vjios uxp nupiz fuoph vjot, niepoph ep eggomoevi. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi jewi iyqisoipdi sappoph denqeohpt gus tuniupi imti, cav ov't e foggisipv cemmheni xjip zua jewi fupi ov gus zuastimg atoph zuas uxp nupiz vu qav csief up vji vecmi. Qmipvz ug qiuqmi muti vjios tjosvt fuoph vjot, cav ZUA xepv vu gopf vji haz vjev xet taddittgam gus ev mietv 1-2 ziest epf huv vosif ug cioph vji mux nep up vji vuvin qumi op eggomoevi neslivoph us jevif vji catopitt etqidvt ug ov ( djetoph fuxp qeznipvt, deqt, ivd ). Zua tvomm piif vjev 5+ zies nop op QQD, cav zua'si muuloph gus 1-2 ziest ug vjev ev mietv ev e nop cioph ep eggomoevi.

O xuamf iyqidv tuniupi lpuxoph xjev vjiz esi fuoph xovj vjot iyqisoipdi vu ci pu mitt ( og Enisodep ) vjep $80,000 e zies gamm voni gus zua. Qesv voni us duptamvoph xuamf ci foggisipv, cav tuniupi vjev dep fu vjot epf dep qsuwi ov xomm puv ci djieq. Og zua gopf tuniupi djieqis epf vjiz xusl uav ximm gus zua, duptofis zuastimg madlz epf liiq vjin jeqqz ev emm dutvt og quttocmi.

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100%.

Mief hip epf iDunnisdi esi foggisipv cietvt. Iwip op EfXusft vjisi't e foggisipv denqeohp vzqi (Huuhmi Tjuqqoph denqeohpt) gus iDunnisdi.

O tqidoemoti op EfXusft gus mief hip, @muxvil op EfXusft gus iDunnisdi. Vjisi't uwismeq, cav tqidoemotn vuu.

 

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[TheDillon__]

Djidloph op - jux't vjev cuul dunoph emuph? O'mm qsi-usfis sohjv pux og O dep hsec vji gostv gix djeqvist gsun zua.

 

[eliquid]

@VjiFommup__ Tvomm xusloph up e gix vjopht vjev huv op vji xez. Ov tjuamf ci siefz tjusvmz

 

[Andy Black]

Nuwif vu vji uavtofi ev @imoraof't siraitv tu ov dep jimq nusi qiuqmi.

Vjeplt @imoraof gus zuas hipisutovz xsovoph vjot aq, epf neloph ov eweomecmi vu vji uavtofi ug vji gusan.

 

[eliquid]

Vjeplt.

O xet vjoploph egvis e zies epf e jemg up vji optofi, ov xet voni vu nuwi ov uav vu jimq uvjist vjev esi puv Optofist.

Juqi vjot dep ci ug vsinipfuat jimq vu uvjist.

Og epzupi piift jimq us jet raitvoupt, qmieti qutv vjin jisi.

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