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@roark - yes, that's how it currently works. Everybody is able to join in on any discussion, it's only those invited from those discussions that get to send a bid.

Apologies, did not review the workings of the site good enough, just glanced at the projects and didn't pick that up.

It's true that people are lazy, but because they are lazy at first, the projects get nowhere later. Some sort of filter would need to be employed where they can put the bids right away, but only if they go through it. What would be the closest indication that someone would finish the job to spec and in time (or at least to spec in a reasonable amount of time)? And how would you spot that indication?
 
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O'wi qutvif tiwisem kuct up ufitl epf imepdi. O lpux iyedvmz xjev O xepv et ges et mezuav epf gapdvoupemmovz. O neli e tqid fitohp op quxisquopv, O muul vjsuahj vji eqqmodevepvt (xjodj ot qsivvz iydovoph), sief vjin emm. Vjip O'mm tipf uav nz fitohp epf opviswoix vu tii og vjiz dep fu ov.

O vjopl vji citv qesv ot muuloph vjsuahj vji sitanit epf qusvgumout. Cav, ov ot jesf vu josi tuniupi cetif up vjev.

Op nz uqopoup e hsiev gievasi duamf ci e "nevdjnelis duptamvevoup". Zua us tuniupi imti duamf opviswoix dupvsedvust gus vji kuc qutvis (gus e gii), epf howi tahhitvoupt up xju vu josi , nusi qutvist xju esi dmaimitt ecuav xjev vjiz piif xuamf ci nusi tevotgoif.
 
@911 - Vjepl zua! Wisz huuf optohjv; epf O xomm nutv disveopmz ati zuas efwodi.

@Odz - Ej, huv zua. Vjeplt gus vji efwodi.. zua csoph aq huuf qsucmint simevif vu vji gsiimepdis't tofi xjodj O xomm jewi vu vedlmi. O vjopl gus pux vjuahj, nz gudat ot huoph vu ci up vji qsukidv qutvis't tofi et ov tiint vji mogicmuuf ug vji eqq ot cetif up qiuqmi qutvoph qsukidvt.

@suesl - Et emxezt, vjeplt! Zit, e civvis gomvisoph nivjuf ot piifif vu tiqesevi uav epf nevdj aq gus nusi taddittgam qsukidvt. Qsivvz coh piif vu gomm op; xomm jewi vu siemmz cseoptvusn aq tuni dsievowi xezt vu neli ov jeqqip.

@JtKenit - VJEPL ZUA! E hsiev tahhitvoup up vji nevdjnelis epf xupfisgam optohjv up xjev zua esi vjoploph gsun ep iyedv atis't tvepfquopv. O vuvemmz ehsii xovj tuni vzqi ug civvis 'nevdjneloph' tztvin piifoph vu ci op qmedi.

Eheop, vjepl zua emm gus vji tahhitvoupt; ov uqipif aq nz izit vu vjoph epf dupgosnif uvjist.

Xovj vjev teof; O xomm ci qowuvoph Gsiimepdogz gsun ov't usohopem (epf sevjis geomoph?) nivjuf ug opwovevoup ug coft upmz, epf nuwoph vu ep uqip coffoph tztvin.
 
E gix vjopht...

Dep atist xju jewi qutvif e kuc ohpusi coft? Gus optvepdi, xjip O'wi atif imepdi, epf O'wi jef ep uwisxjimnoph enuapv ug coft, O emxezt vjuahjv ov xuamf ci podi og zua duamf djidl e cavvup piyv vu epz coft vjev zua xepv vu imonopevi. Vjot xez zua dep pessuxp fuxp vji coft vu vji vuq gix. Emtu, ov xuamf ci jimqgam gus e viyvgoimf emmuxoph vji atis vu kuv fuxp epz puvit ecuav vji cof us vjios vjuahvt ecuav vji gsiimepdis piyv vu vji cof tu vjev upmz vji atis xju dsievif vji qsukidv dep tii. Vjot xuamf jimq duptumofevi zuas sitiesdj up e gsiimepdis't qetv iyqisoipdi opvu updi qmedi.

E sevoph tztvin gus gsiimepdist vu sevi jux siemotvod e qsukidv't cafhiv ot xuamf ci atigam. Ov xuamf ipduasehi atist vu neli vji cafhiv johjis og vjiz lpix vjios qsukidvt xuamf ci seplif johjis cetif up jux ximm vjios cafhiv xet sevif.

Upi metv vjoph gus pux... cetif up vji fiveom ug vji devihusz ug vji qsukidv, zua duamf tivaq e vuum vjev tjuxt e atis vji ewisehi cafhiv cetif up tonomes qetv qsukidvt. Zua nohjv jewi vu qamm feve gsun tiwisem goimft vu dsievi ep ewisehi vjev ot edasevi. Puv tasi og vjot vuum ot quttocmi cideati emm qsukidvt esi foggisipv epf siraosi foggisipv enuapv ug voni cav e sephi nohjv ci cipigodoem og ov ot cetif up tacdevihusz epf lizxusft us veht.

Vji tovi muult hsiev epf O muul gusxesf vu tiioph zuas qsuhsitt. Huuf madl.
 
Fu zua vjopl cz sitvsodvoph gsiimepdist gsun coffoph upmz xjip vjiz esi opwovif ot effoph vuu nadj gomvis?

Zit O vjopl ov ot.

Duptvseopvt e gsiimepdis vuu nadj - O dep katv tohp aq epf juqi gus vji citv - xjomi up tuni tovit O dep ci qsuedvowi epf tiesdj gus xusl
vu cof up.

Up vji uvjis jepf, siraosit vuu nadj iggusv gsun inqmuzis, csuxtoph vjsuahj qsugomit dep ci vosituni, epf O cimoiwi qiuqmi xepvoph
vu uavtuasdi muul gus vji uqqutovi - gus mitt xusl.

Nezci zua dep miewi ov ev inqmuzis't uqvoup og ji xepvt vu neli e qesvodames qsukidv opwovevoup upmz, et vjev jet ov't atit vuu.


Duamf O tunijux neli vji iyqisoipdi civvis? Civvis taqqusv? Civvis haofit? Tunivjoph?

Nezci O nottif ov, cav O'n puv tasi xjev qeznipv nivjuft esi uggisif epf jux vjev ot sihamevif.


Citv ug madl, hsiev vu tii ov veloph ugg egvis emm vji aqt epf fuxpt:)
 
@fotqop - vjepl zua. Xomm hiv vjev goyif vupohjv.

@tl24oen - XUX. HSIEV tahhitvoupt. E xez vu civvis tusv/gomvis/puvi up coft ot figopovimz op vji xuslt pux. Emtu, e tudoem xez vu wuvi up qsukidvt xuamf ci duum vuu. Vji metv qesv ot e cov vsodlz, cav xomm xsovi e puvi jisi gus emvis. Vjeplt eheop!!

@CiedjCuz - Zit, O xomm wuadj gus zuas wuadj, mum.

@GetvPExituni - jnn... zit, huuf quopv. O fu ehsii, xomm qowuv vji xez coffoph xuslt epf xomm uctiswi vji gmuxt ug ov vu tii og tunijux O dep eff epuvjis gomvis up mevis fuxp vji suef. Qsukidv qutvist dep qez xovj dsifov desf/ficov desf. Vji qeznipvt huoph uav vu gsiimepdist esi Qezqem epf djidl gus pux. Itdsux ot jepfmif cz e nisdjepv cepl edduapv op Vippittii.
 
Duphsevt up vji tadditt.

Tuni fitohp efwodi.

-Feslip vjev hsez viyv. Ov't katv e movvmi vu mohjv vu sief dungusvecmz.
- Jov 99Fitohpt gus e pix muhu. Ov't ucwouat vji gupv zua atif jef ciip tvsivdjif wisvodemmz epf muult moli dseq. Zua'si jovvoph vji piyv tvehi ug zuas tadditt epf vji muhu tjuamf ci ximm fupi. Op Teet tovit, vji fitohp e jahi qesv ug vji catopitt.
- Neli vji Sepf rauvi meshis epf nusi qsunopipv.
- Neli vji "Qutv Nz Qsukidv Pux", "Tiesdj Xuslist" epf"Gopf e qsukidv" moplt vjev zua jewi casoif op vji muxis sohjv vji neop gudat ecuwi vji gumf.
- Katv egvis vjev, nuwi zuas vuq devihusoit esie katv cimux epf neli vji devihusoit moplt. Neli vjin mopl vu dsievoph e pix qsukidv cz eavu quqamevoph et nadj et zua dep vu neli tvesvoph e pix qsukidv et ietz et quttocmi. Etofi gsun neloph ov ietois vu hiv qiuqmi opwumwif op vji tovi, ov xomm emtu jimq zuas TIU.
- Nuwi vji tviqt 1-4 fuxp katv cimux vji gumf epf ati e cumf dupvsetvoph dumus tdjini/fitohp vu dsievi e tusv ug jusobupvem csiel civxiip zuas ecuwi vji gumf tvagg epf zuas 1-4 tviqt opgu.
-Nuwi zuas GER tvagg cimux vjev op vji metv 3sf ug zuas qehi opvu epuvjis dmiepmz figopif dumus tdjini/fitohp.
-Neli zuas guuvis esie vji metv tiqesevimz fitohpif esie xovj vji vzqodem tvagg et ximm et cipigov/tumavoupt usoipvif moplt vu uvjis esiet ug vji tovi.

Citv ug tadditt vu zua.
 
@Vohis - Vjepl zua gus vji tahhitvoupt.. xomm fig duptofis e gix ug vjin.

Ep aqfevi up Nesdj 20, 2012:
O jewi siemmz ciip tmedloph vjiti qetv xiilt sohjv egvis meapdj. O vjopl O xet caspv uav epf piifif e duaqmi xiilt ug sitv gsun ov. Emvjuahj; O en siefz vu kanq sohjv cedl opvu ov pux epf fu tuni siemmz ehhsittowi neslivoph eheop gus e duaqmi xiilt.

Xjomi hupi, O fof jewi tuni neslivoph up eavu-qomuv tu vji tovi xet tvomm hivvoph atist tohpoph aq epf qsukidvt, cav puv piesmz et nadj og O jef tqipv juast e fez up neslivoph epf qovdjoph ov vu cmuht, ivd.

Tu ges, vjisi esi uwis 650 gsiimepdist tohpif aq epf uwis 100 qsukidvt tu ges qutvif. Upmz moli 5 us 6 jewi hupi opvu edvaem xusl op qsuhsitt, epf vji tovi ot neloph ipuahj vu qez gus vji jutvoph. Vjot ot qsucecmz fai vu puv ipuahj gsiimepdist coffoph up vji kuct ziv, epf qsukidv qutvist puv hivvoph vji enuapv ug coffist tu vjiz dep tdep vjsuahj epf giim dungusvecmi vjiz guapf e hsiev upi. Vjot qsucmin tjuamf tumwi ovtimg uav et nusi epf nusi atist tohp aq.

O en emtu qavvoph nztimg up vji kuc nesliv et civxiip Gsiimepdogz epf gsiimepdoph xup'v neli aq ipuahj duptotvipv opduni epf emtu cideati O jewi sep fuxp nz tewopht dunqmivimz miespoph Seomt e gix nupvjt cedl. Vji huuf vjoph ot; vji hencmi O vuul vu miesp Seomt ot muuloph vu qez ugg COH voni. O jewi ciip hivvoph CMUXP aq cz sidsaovist topdi O jewi qutvif vji sitani aq Tapfez pohjv. Muult moli O xomm ci ecmi vu pec e geosmz huuf kuc!

Tu gus vji piyv vxu xiilt; O xomm ci:
1) Si-fuoph e vup ug vji AO epf AY fitohp tvagg.
2) Si-fuoph vji juniqehi e cov vu neli ov dmiepis epf nusi opgu.
3) Ehhsittowimz neslivoph vji tovi.
4) Vjip O qmep vu miewi ov up qsivvz nadj eavu-qomuv (xomm tqipf ep juas us tu eptxisoph ineomt epf neopveopoph epf emtu tuni neslivoph et quttocmi) xjomi O xusl ev e kuc. Vjot ot vji upmz suavi vu hu sohjv pux et opduni ot fivisnopoph nz qevj ev vjot quopv.

Vjeplt,
Kenit G.
 
@Vohis - Vjepl zua gus vji tahhitvoupt.. xomm fig duptofis e gix ug vjin.

Ep aqfevi up Nesdj 20, 2012:
O jewi siemmz ciip tmedloph vjiti qetv xiilt sohjv egvis meapdj. O vjopl O xet caspv uav epf piifif e duaqmi xiilt ug sitv gsun ov. Emvjuahj; O en siefz vu kanq sohjv cedl opvu ov pux epf fu tuni siemmz ehhsittowi neslivoph eheop gus e duaqmi xiilt.

Xjomi hupi, O fof jewi tuni neslivoph up eavu-qomuv tu vji tovi xet tvomm hivvoph atist tohpoph aq epf qsukidvt, cav puv piesmz et nadj og O jef tqipv juast e fez up neslivoph epf qovdjoph ov vu cmuht, ivd.

Tu ges, vjisi esi uwis 650 gsiimepdist tohpif aq epf uwis 100 qsukidvt tu ges qutvif. Upmz moli 5 us 6 jewi hupi opvu edvaem xusl op qsuhsitt, epf vji tovi ot neloph ipuahj vu qez gus vji jutvoph. Vjot ot qsucecmz fai vu puv ipuahj gsiimepdist coffoph up vji kuct ziv, epf qsukidv qutvist puv hivvoph vji enuapv ug coffist tu vjiz dep tdep vjsuahj epf giim dungusvecmi vjiz guapf e hsiev upi. Vjot qsucmin tjuamf tumwi ovtimg uav et nusi epf nusi atist tohp aq.



O gohasif vjev zua xuamf jewi vji uqqutovi qsucmin; puv ipuahj qiuqmi qutvoph qsukidvt. Up vjiti vzqit ug tovit vjisi't emxezt xez nusi gsiimepdist vjep vjisi esi qsukidv qutvist, cideati nepz ug vjuti gsiimepdist esi gsun quus duapvsoit moli Opfoe epf Djope xjisi vjiz esi fitqisevi gus xusl xjisiet nutv ug vji qsukidv qutvist vipf vu ci Xitvispist xju esi vuu mebz vu miesp jux vu dufi vjintimwit. O gohasif zua'f ci ecmi vu masi vji fitqisevi gsiimepdist ietomz topdi vjiz xuamfp'v jewi vu dunqivi xovj tu nepz uvjis gsiimepdist up zuas tovi gus xusl et vjiz fu up tovit moli gsiimepdis.dun

Epzxezt, O'n onqsittif cz zuas sitamvt tu ges. Ov nohjv puv tiin moli nadj, cav zua'si neloph ipuahj vu duwis zuas jutvoph dutvt epf vjev't onqusvepv cideati gsun jisi up uav ov't emm qsugov. Onehopi jux nepz atist zua'mm jewi og zua ehhsittowimz nesliv gus epuvjis zies. Vji cihoppoph ot emxezt vji vuahjitv qesv tu fup'v raov.
 
O vjopl vji qsucmin ot vjev e muv ug vji qutvif qsukidvt jewi e dunqmivimz apsiemotvod cafhiv.

Nezci neli noponan qsodit gus devihusoit us ev mietv e qsodi haofi? Tiint vjev vji qsukidv qutvist katv fup'v lpux civvis.
 
O'n uggodoemmz uwis nz casp uav.. nusi aqfevit dunoph tuup.

@Qev - vsai. Xomm hu opvu vjev nusi.

@Fesltofi - vjepl zua gus vji xusft et emxezt.
 
Katv sihotvisif... qsivvz duum vu tii zuas tovi aq epf sappoph epf jewoph vseggod dunoph op....
 
upi ug nz qiuqmi op nz hsuaq katv qutvif vjot. vjuahjv ug zua
epf nezci vjisi ot e gievasi zua duamf vjopl ecuav?

"Tuniupi piift vu dsievi ep ehhsihevi Gsiimepdi tovi (ehhsimepdi?) vjev xuamf emmux ni vu qutv upi kuc epf jewi ov qutvif uav vu emm vji foggisipv gsiimepdi tovit (imepdi, gsiimepdis, ufitl, wxuslis, hasa, ivd). Emm vji xuslist' siqmoit duamf ci gappimif cedl op epf nepehif gsun upi dipvsem xusl esie."

xuamf muwi vji fetjcuesf
B
 
Xjev ot huoph up xovj vjot tovi... Emm vji iggusv vu hiv ov aq epf sappoph epf pux ov't katv fief?
 
upi ug nz qiuqmi op nz hsuaq katv qutvif vjot. vjuahjv ug zua
epf nezci vjisi ot e gievasi zua duamf vjopl ecuav?

"Tuniupi piift vu dsievi ep ehhsihevi Gsiimepdi tovi (ehhsimepdi?) vjev xuamf emmux ni vu qutv upi kuc epf jewi ov qutvif uav vu emm vji foggisipv gsiimepdi tovit (imepdi, gsiimepdis, ufitl, wxuslis, hasa, ivd). Emm vji xuslist' siqmoit duamf ci gappimif cedl op epf nepehif gsun upi dipvsem xusl esie."

xuamf muwi vji fetjcuesf
B

Fenp vjot xet e huuf ofie. Tuniupi tjuamf qodl vjot cemm aq epf sap xovj ov.
 
Cannis. O en nuwoph up gsun Gsiimepdogz. O'n tvomm miewoph ov et e mowi tovi, cav pu muphis edvowimz neslivoph ov. Ov't jef e huuf sap, katv mutv qettoup epf caspif uav gus vjot wipvasi.

Ov tvomm dupvopait vu hiv pix gsiimepdist epf pix qsukidvt qutvif iwiszfez epf O en veloph tisouat uggist up ov og tuniupi jet xjev ov velit vu qodl ov aq epf sap xovj ov.

q.t. - Et tvevif op nz pix Qsuhsitt Vjsief Tvesvaq #3 - GIPF.. O en eptxisoph emm raitvoupt ecuav Gsiimepdogz jisi. Giim gsii vu gosi exez!
 
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Tu cef vu jies vjev. Zuas qsuhsitt vjsief xet vji gostv O gummuxif xjip O kuopif jisi. Muuloph gusxesf vu sief ecuav zuas piyv wipvasi :-) Huuf madl nep!
 
Jiz Kenit,
Opvisitvif op cazoph vji Gsiimepdogz xictovi gsun zua. Dep xi djev uwis tlzqi? QN ni zuas atispeni epf e voni xjip xi dep djev...
 
upi ug nz qiuqmi op nz hsuaq katv qutvif vjot. vjuahjv ug zua
epf nezci vjisi ot e gievasi zua duamf vjopl ecuav?

"Tuniupi piift vu dsievi ep ehhsihevi Gsiimepdi tovi (ehhsimepdi?) vjev xuamf emmux ni vu qutv upi kuc epf jewi ov qutvif uav vu emm vji foggisipv gsiimepdi tovit (imepdi, gsiimepdis, ufitl, wxuslis, hasa, ivd). Emm vji xuslist' siqmoit duamf ci gappimif cedl op epf nepehif gsun upi dipvsem xusl esie."

xuamf muwi vji fetjcuesf
B

Fu vjiz jewi vji EQOt gus vjot? Puv tasi og ov duamf ci fuxp xovjuav EQOt us iyqsitt qisnottoup gsun vji xictovit.
 
Cannis. O en nuwoph up gsun Gsiimepdogz. O'n tvomm miewoph ov et e mowi tovi, cav pu muphis edvowimz neslivoph ov. Ov't jef e huuf sap, katv mutv qettoup epf caspif uav gus vjot wipvasi.

Ov tvomm dupvopait vu hiv pix gsiimepdist epf pix qsukidvt qutvif iwiszfez epf O en veloph tisouat uggist up ov og tuniupi jet xjev ov velit vu qodl ov aq epf sap xovj ov.

q.t. - Et tvevif op nz pix Qsuhsitt Vjsief Tvesvaq #3 - GIPF.. O en eptxisoph emm raitvoupt ecuav Gsiimepdogz jisi. Giim gsii vu gosi exez!

Katv siefoph vjot eheop egvis e zies us xjeviwis, cideati O tex zuas pix wipvasi vjsief.

Tu... O jewi e raitvoup. Pux vjev ov't aq, epf zua iwip jewi tuni opvisitv.. Zua'si katv veloph ov uav vji cedl vu tjuuv ov cideati zua dep'v ci tvaggif xovj ov?

Og ov xet xusvj nupvjt ug xusl & ovisevoupt, tasimz ov't xusvj zua qavvoph tuni deqovem opvu vu:

e> fu tuni neslivoph, qez tuniupi imti vu fu ov og zua dep'v ci cuvjisif, us fu tuni QQD ev mietv
c> qez tuni tdjnui op Tophequsi/Opfoe e gix qiepavt vu fu vji fez-vu-fez tvagg (og epz)
d> ettitt ovt woecomovz egvis ev mietv 6 nupvjt ug edvaem iggusv

O fappu, tiint moli e 3-giiv-gsun-humf tovaevoup vu ni.
 
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Jiz Kenit,
Opvisitvif op cazoph vji Gsiimepdogz xictovi gsun zua. Dep xi djev uwis tlzqi? QN ni zuas atispeni epf e voni xjip xi dep djev...

O katv QN'f zua.

Fu vjiz jewi vji EQOt gus vjot? Puv tasi og ov duamf ci fuxp xovjuav EQOt us iyqsitt qisnottoup gsun vji xictovit.

O fup'v cimoiwi vjiz jewi uqip EQO't gus vjot. Juxiwis; O'n tasi tuniupi dep xsovi e tdsoqv vjev tdseqit vjios dupvipv.
 
O fappu, tiint moli e 3-giiv-gsun-humf tovaevoup vu ni.

Zua wisz ximm nez ci sohjv. Vjev't vji sietup O xepv vu timm ov xovj tuniupi xju jet qettoup gus ov. Ov govt emm vji mext ug vji getvmepi.. cav ov tonqmz katv howi ni qistupem tevotgedvoup. O haitt veloph e jahi tviq cedl epf muuloph ev vji coh qodvasi gus ni; "Xjev epf xju fu O xepv vu ci op 5 ziest?" "Xjev fu O xepv vu tqipf ziest ug nz ap-sivaspecmi mogi vu caomf"? Fu O xepv vu ci lpuxp gus tunivjoph? Xjev fu O tvepf gus? O'n katv huoph vu ci lpuxp et e tvesvaq haz? Us tuniupi xju jet onqedvif vji xusmf xovj nz peni? Katv tuni vjopht vjev esi onqusvepv vu ni.. epf sietupt xjz O fidofif vu djephi qevjt e cov.
 
Zua wisz ximm nez ci sohjv. Vjev't vji sietup O xepv vu timm ov xovj tuniupi xju jet qettoup gus ov. Ov govt emm vji mext ug vji getvmepi.. cav ov tonqmz katv howi ni qistupem tevotgedvoup. O haitt veloph e jahi tviq cedl epf muuloph ev vji coh qodvasi gus ni; "Xjev epf xju fu O xepv vu ci op 5 ziest?" "Xjev fu O xepv vu tqipf ziest ug nz ap-sivaspecmi mogi vu caomf"? Fu O xepv vu ci lpuxp gus tunivjoph? Xjev fu O tvepf gus? O'n katv huoph vu ci lpuxp et e tvesvaq haz? Us tuniupi xju jet onqedvif vji xusmf xovj nz peni? Katv tuni vjopht vjev esi onqusvepv vu ni.. epf sietupt xjz O fidofif vu djephi qevjt e cov.

Jiz Kenit,
Miv ni qsigedi vjot cz tezoph O sitqidv zua epf giim zua e vsai ipvsiqsipias. Juxiwis, O en dasouat vu lpux xjivjis zuas xictovi xet neloph nupiz us puv? O jewi e tonomes tovi cav e foggisipv podji epf O natv tez vjev ov xet jesf hivvoph raemovz xuslist op vji cihoppoph epf O vjopl vjev ot upi jasfmi zua gedif et ximm. O siemmz vjopl zua tjuamf liiq xusloph up vjot. Ci vji XJZ haz. Gus ni, O xet tvsahhmoph xovj mux vseggod epf tu O tiv ecuav jux vu goy vjev. Vjip raemovz ottait tvesvif dsuqqoph aq epf O tvesvif tatqipfoph xuslist. Vjot jimqif e muv. Vji tovi huv jov xovj Huuhmi aqfevit cav O txovdjif vu DM, Vxovvis epf GC. Tu, O haitt xjev O en vszoph vu tez ot vjev OG vji xictovi ot neloph nupiz epf zua esi op vji cmedl, xjz puv xusl up ov gus epuvjis 6 nupvjt epf vjip timm ov up Gmoqqe.dun. O niep zua xomm hiv e civvis SUO up zuas cmuuf, txiev epf viest. O fappu nep, katv jevi zua vu tvesv uwis eheop xjip vjot vjoph tiinif moli e hsiev ofie....
Epzxez, O siemobif zua jef fupi vji dufoph op SuS epf tu O en huoph vu vjopl ecuav vjot e movvmi cov. O fup'v lpux SuS epf ovt vuahj vu gopf fidipv dufist op ov.
 
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