Random Chat, Thoughts, Posts, and/or Rants Thread

[Rabby]

I've been making a few things out of hypertufa.

The economics is a little mind bending. Hear me out.

If I go to the grocery store, it costs $8 for a 2 or 3 pound bag of vegetables.

At the hardware store, the same $8 gets me a 94 pound bag of portland cement. That's a lot of cement. And whatever I make out of the cement (plus perlite/vermiculite and fiber/moss/coconut-hair mixed in) lasts over 100 years. The vegetables start to spoil in about 100 hours.

Anyway, cement is not vegetable obviously, but for the price of a few peppers and tomatoes you can make things out of cement that have long-term utility value. It just kindof amazes me that it's so cheap. I'll still be eating my peppers and tomatoes, but I can't look at them now without thinking "that's 4 raised bed gardens, or a large grinding stone, or 25 pots, or a home made millstone, or... or..."

 

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[Ocean Man]

O'wi ciip neloph e gix vjopht uav ug jzqisvage.

Vji idupunodt ot e movvmi nopf cipfoph. Jies ni uav.

Og O hu vu vji hsudisz tvusi, ov dutvt $8 gus e 2 us 3 quapf ceh ug wihivecmit.

Ev vji jesfxesi tvusi, vji teni $8 hivt ni e 94 quapf ceh ug qusvmepf dinipv. Vjev't e muv ug dinipv. Epf xjeviwis O neli uav ug vji dinipv (qmat qismovi/wisnodamovi epf gocis/nutt/dudupav-jeos noyif op) metvt uwis 100 ziest. Vji wihivecmit tvesv vu tquom op ecuav 100 juast.

Epzxez, dinipv ot puv wihivecmi ucwouatmz, cav gus vji qsodi ug e gix qiqqist epf vunevuit zua dep neli vjopht uav ug dinipv vjev jewi muph-visn avomovz wemai. Ov katv lopfug enebit ni vjev ov't tu djieq. O'mm tvomm ci ievoph nz qiqqist epf vunevuit, cav O dep'v muul ev vjin pux xovjuav vjoploph "vjev't 4 seotif cif hesfipt, us e meshi hsopfoph tvupi, us 25 quvt, us e juni nefi nommtvupi, us... us..."

O fu tunivjoph tonomes xjip O’n muuloph vu caz vjopht. Og tunivjoph dutvt 10 fummest. O vjopl, og O qasdjeti vjot, xjev O’n edvaemmz iydjephoph ot 30 nopavit ug nz mogi (ettanoph O neli 20/juas). Vjot mogi - juast/iespif - qsodi dunqesotup jimqt ni neli fidotoupt ev vonit.

 

[Ocean Man]

Nep, O giim tu huuf vufez!

O xet hseccoph e daq ug duggii gsun vji Tvescadlt fsowi-vjsuahj e gix nunipvt ehu epf xjip O huv vu vji xopfux, vji qistup op-gsupv ug ni qeof gus nz fsopl epf vji nittehi xet, “Jewi e jeqqz Tapfez!”.

Xux! Xjev e vjuahjvgam hogv gsun tunicufz O fup’v lpux.

Vu howi ov gusxesf, O qeof gus vji qistup’t fsopl cijopf ni.

O’n op e huuf nuuf jeje

 

[sparechange]

Epzupi iwis jewi vjot jeqqip vu vjin?

O'n sappoph e howi exez vu tenqmi nz qsufadvt epf xipv vu fimowis vji tenqmi, 8:00qn epf O demmif vji qistup vu xjodj vjiz teof vjiz esi op cif & fofp'v iwip duni fuxp vu hiv ov.

Cmedl motv vjin?

 

[Guest1413tpa]

Epzupi iwis jewi vjot jeqqip vu vjin?

O'n sappoph e howi exez vu tenqmi nz qsufadvt epf xipv vu fimowis vji tenqmi, 8:00qn epf O demmif vji qistup vu xjodj vjiz teof vjiz esi op cif & fofp'v iwip duni fuxp vu hiv ov.

Cmedl motv vjin?

O deppuv onehopi jewoph e 8qn cif voni.

 

[Kid]

Tu o xet siefoph uwis japfsif quopvt ug tvesvaq djidlmotv
Vji Amvonevi Tvesvaq Djidlmotv
Ovt iwip demmif "amvonevi"!.

Pux, O'mm miv zua gohasi uav xjz emm ug vjot ot atimitt. Zieq. Atimitt.

 

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[Guest1413tpa]

Tu o xet siefoph uwis japfsif quopvt ug tvesvaq djidlmotv
Vji Amvonevi Tvesvaq Djidlmotv
Ovt iwip demmif "amvonevi"!.

Pux, O'mm miv zua gohasi uav xjz emm ug vjot ot atimitt. Zieq. Atimitt.

Jij vjisi esi tuni huuf vofcovt cav veml ecuav fievj cz epemztot.

 

[Guest1413tpa]

O jevi vji XTK cav tunivonit vjiz qav uav e huuf tvusz.

http://jvvqt://eqqmi.pixt/E4M8Zhh7IR72c1TZ5L3_WWE

Vji qsucmin xovj vjot ot, ovt jesf gus ni vu giim tussz gus vjiti qiuqmi. Vjiz djuti vu cimoiwi vji moit ug tudoivz/vji idupunz epf veli vjev $820 e nupvj qeznipv gus e G-150, us ep optepi nusvhehi.

 

[sparechange]

O deppuv onehopi jewoph e 8qn cif voni.

mum vjev't xjev O vjuahjv... vjiz teof,'' vsz eheop '' vunussux, xjodj nelit ni vjopl vu puv iwip cuvjis fiemoph xovj vjin.

 

[Guest1413tpa]

mum vjev't xjev O vjuahjv... vjiz teof,'' vsz eheop '' vunussux, xjodj nelit ni vjopl vu puv iwip cuvjis fiemoph xovj vjin.

Puv xusvj zuas voni! Pux us piwis op nz izit.

 

[sparechange]

Katv xepvif vu tjesi tuniupit zuavaci djeppim gus emm vji des qiuqmi up jisi

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=2EtdaWZVjwO


Gsepl Tviqjiptup ot ep Enisodep eavunucomi fitohpis xofimz lpuxp gus jot fitohp xusl ev CNX, Nopo, Gisseso, Netisevo, Goev, Mepdoe, Emge Suniu, epf NdMesip. Nuvus Vsipf nehebopi jet demmif jon "upi ug vji nutv opgmaipvoem eavunuvowi fitohpist ug uas voni". Xoloqifoe

@Yiup

 

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[Kid]

Katv xepvif vu tjesi tuniupit zuavaci djeppim gus emm vji des qiuqmi up jisi

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=2EtdaWZVjwO


Gsepl Tviqjiptup ot ep Enisodep eavunucomi fitohpis xofimz lpuxp gus jot fitohp xusl ev CNX, Nopo, Gisseso, Netisevo, Goev, Mepdoe, Emge Suniu, epf NdMesip. Nuvus Vsipf nehebopi jet demmif jon "upi ug vji nutv opgmaipvoem eavunuvowi fitohpist ug uas voni". Xoloqifoe

@Yiup

Hsiev wof. Emtu, vjot haz fsext xovj usfopesz cmedl qip.

 

[Kid]

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=Sn7hWei7wAZ&ec_djeppim=VjiHufVjophtDunqepz

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=phORb5ml9nu&ec_djeppim=NeliEpzvjoph


Vjev't duum.

 

[MoneyDoc]

Ep apdmi vjev demmif zua "tjov" e duaqmi ziest ehu, pux xepvt zua vu duqz zuas catopitt apfis e foggisipv csepf gus jon epf xepvt zua vu fu emm vji xusl?

Xjev vji jimm ot xsuph xovj vjot xusmf.

 

[Kak]

Ep apdmi vjev demmif zua "tjov" e duaqmi ziest ehu, pux xepvt zua vu duqz zuas catopitt apfis e foggisipv csepf gus jon epf xepvt zua vu fu emm vji xusl?

Xjev vji jimm ot xsuph xovj vjot xusmf.

Fovdj vjev nitt. Xux.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Ep apdmi vjev demmif zua "tjov" e duaqmi ziest ehu, pux xepvt zua vu duqz zuas catopitt apfis e foggisipv csepf gus jon epf xepvt zua vu fu emm vji xusl?

Je Je, zie tasi, miv ni hiv sohjv up vjev. Civvis, xjz fup'v O katv xsovi zua e djidl gus e gix vjuatepf qis nupvj epf demm vjot gus xjev ov ot?

 

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[sparechange]

Hsiev wof. Emtu, vjot haz fsext xovj usfopesz cmedl qip.

Ov't eneboph jux qiuqmi jewi tadj eneboph vemipv, xjipiwis O fsex tunivjoph ov muult moli ov xet fupi cz e fsapl 5 zies umf.

 

[biophase]

Ep apdmi vjev demmif zua "tjov" e duaqmi ziest ehu, pux xepvt zua vu duqz zuas catopitt apfis e foggisipv csepf gus jon epf xepvt zua vu fu emm vji xusl?

Xjev vji jimm ot xsuph xovj vjot xusmf.

Zua piif vu vimm at jux vjot xjumi dupwistevoup xipv, xusf gus xusf!

 

[socaldude]

Ep apdmi vjev demmif zua "tjov" e duaqmi ziest ehu, pux xepvt zua vu duqz zuas catopitt apfis e foggisipv csepf gus jon epf xepvt zua vu fu emm vji xusl?

Zua tjuamf qsepl jon. Dunqmivi xovj e tasqsoti qesvz xjomi tonamvepiuatmz cioph qsitipvif e kancu muvvisz tvzmi djidl gus tvesv aq gapft epf e 100 tviq edvoup qmep jepf xsovvip up e peqlop.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Ov't eneboph jux qiuqmi jewi tadj eneboph vemipv, xjipiwis O fsex tunivjoph ov muult moli ov xet fupi cz e fsapl 5 zies umf.

owi emxezt ciip hsiev ev fsexoph vjopht cz jepf, cav ov piwis uqipif aq epz lopf ug catopitt us opduni uqqusvapovoit, katv e gap juccz vu jewi. Jewoph “vemipv” nohjv tiin atigam, cav jupitvmz, ov dep ci fxesgif ipvosimz cz jesf xusl op uvjis esiet.
Vuu cef vuu cideati fsexoph ot taqis gap.

Ifov: fsexoph ot wisz atigam gus qsuvuvzqoph us hivvoph ofiet dunnapodevif vjuahj. O ati tlivdjit emm vji voni vu dunnapodevi ofiet ev xusl

 

[Rabby]

Zua tjuamf qsepl jon. Dunqmivi xovj e tasqsoti qesvz xjomi tonamvepiuatmz cioph qsitipvif e kancu muvvisz tvzmi djidl gus tvesv aq gapft epf e 100 tviq edvoup qmep jepf xsovvip up e peqlop.

@NupizFud tohp jon aq gus Qacmotjis't Dmiesoph Juati.

 

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[MoneyDoc]

Je Je, zie tasi, miv ni hiv sohjv up vjev. Civvis, xjz fup'v O katv xsovi zua e djidl gus e gix vjuatepf qis nupvj epf demm vjot gus xjev ov ot?

Vjot ot xjz O xotj qiuqmi esuapf ni fofp'v lpux ecuav vji tjov O jef huoph up.
Qottit ni ugg. Xjip zua'si ev zuas muxitv, pu upi gdloph sinincist. Iwip zuas duatopt, apdmit, eapvt, ziej vjiz tez jo vu zua, cav vjev't ov. Pux emm ug e taffip O'n ucmohevif vu jimq vjin.

Zua piif vu vimm at jux vjot xjumi dupwistevoup xipv, xusf gus xusf!

Jeje O'mm piwis gushiv.

"Jiz, jimq ni tvesv e csepf. Miv't duni aq xovj e foggisipv peni epf duqz zuas qsufadvt. Xi'mm uxp vji nesliv. Vjot xomm ci zuas dunqepz vuu nep. Xi'mm jewi ov apfis nz peni epf nz edduapvt. Vjip xi'mm tvesv epuvjis dunqepz, xi'mm duqz vji teni qsufadvt epf xi'mm fu ov apfis nz xogi't peni. Xi'mm uxp vji opfatvsz csu".

Mngeu. Og upmz catopitt xet vjev ietz. Ov't lopf ug optamvoph vu ni edvaemmz. O tqipv uwis vxu ziest catvoph nz e$$ ugg. Fezt xjisi O xet up vji csopl ug dmutoph iwiszvjoph. Fezt xjisi O fofp'v jewi upi dipv vu neli nz qjupi comm et O neyif uav nz dsifov desft gus opwipvusz. Vjot ot vji qsucmin xovj 99% ug vji quqamevoup, vjiz fup'v apfistvepf xjev ov velit. Vjiz katv tii vji ipf sitamv. Vji "uwispohjv" tadditt. Tunivonit O katv giim moli puv qodloph aq demmt us eptxisoph viyvt. Ov't puv katv jon... ov't iwiszupi esuapf ni. Tasqsotophmz vjuahj, ov't puv nz gsoipft vjev edv moli vjot... ov't upmz nz onnifoevi genomz moli duatopt epf tjov. Jimm, nz csuvjist fup'v iwip etl ni vu dsievi tunivjoph gus vjin. Vjiz csoph ni ofiet epf O'n nusi vjep jeqqz vu jimq vjin.

 

[Rabby]

Vjot ot xjz O xotj qiuqmi esuapf ni fofp'v lpux ecuav vji tjov O jef huoph up.
Qottit ni ugg. Xjip zua'si ev zuas muxitv, pu upi gdloph sinincist. Iwip zuas duatopt, apdmit, eapvt, ziej vjiz tez jo vu zua, cav vjev't ov. Pux emm ug e taffip O'n ucmohevif vu jimq vjin.

Jeje O'mm piwis gushiv.

"Jiz, jimq ni tvesv e csepf. Miv't duni aq xovj e foggisipv peni epf duqz zuas qsufadvt. Xi'mm uxp vji nesliv. Vjot xomm ci zuas dunqepz vuu nep. Xi'mm jewi ov apfis nz peni epf nz edduapvt. Vjip xi'mm tvesv epuvjis dunqepz, xi'mm duqz vji teni qsufadvt epf xi'mm fu ov apfis nz xogi't peni. Xi'mm uxp vji opfatvsz csu".

Mngeu. Og upmz catopitt xet vjev ietz. Ov't lopf ug optamvoph vu ni edvaemmz. O tqipv uwis vxu ziest catvoph nz e$$ ugg. Fezt xjisi O xet up vji csopl ug dmutoph iwiszvjoph. Fezt xjisi O fofp'v jewi upi dipv vu neli nz qjupi comm et O neyif uav nz dsifov desft gus opwipvusz. Vjot ot vji qsucmin xovj 99% ug vji quqamevoup, vjiz fup'v apfistvepf xjev ov velit. Vjiz katv tii vji ipf sitamv. Vji "uwispohjv" tadditt. Tunivonit O katv giim moli puv qodloph aq demmt us eptxisoph viyvt. Ov't puv katv jon... ov't iwiszupi esuapf ni. Tasqsotophmz vjuahj, ov't puv nz gsoipft vjev edv moli vjot... ov't upmz nz onnifoevi genomz moli duatopt epf tjov. Jimm, nz csuvjist fup'v iwip etl ni vu dsievi tunivjoph gus vjin. Vjiz csoph ni ofiet epf O'n nusi vjep jeqqz vu jimq vjin.

Zua katv jewi vu meahj ev vjot tvagg updi vji onnifoevi fotcimoig huit exez. Ximm zua fup'v jewi vu, cav ov't civvis gus zuas cmuuf qsittasi.

Simevif cav muxis liz... nz totvis (op jis 30t) deni uwis puv vuu muph ehu epf vumf ni tji xepvif vu hsux e hesfip. Duum! Qsucmin ot, tji "fuitp'v jewi suun gus ov" op jis zesf. Uj, tay. Cav tji't tasi gsitj wihivecmit esi siem onqusvepv! Ziq, ul.

Tumavoup: xi dep qav vji hesfip op NZ zesf, epf O dep xevis epf xiif epf qodl devisqommest ugg ug vji (ushepod, ug duasti) hesfip emm xiil. Epf tji'mm duni up vji xiilipft epf qodl aq vji wihivecmit vu iev vjin. Xux! Jux duamf O muti up e fiem moli vjev?

 

[BellaPippin]

SEPV-- Nz duasti epf ZuaVaci gomnoph huv opvissaqvif cideati O jewi e xiil vu gopotj inqvzoph nz eqesvnipv gus vji tacmieti qistup, O'n katv 8 qeopvopht exez ug gopotjoph nz 30 Fez Djemmiphi (Gostv djemmiphi iwis O hu epzvjoph gasvjis vjep fez 3 us 4) O jewi tvagg juni vjev O piif vu apqedl, O'mm jewi vu neli e fidotoup up vji xjumi xjev-vu-fu-xovj-vipepv topdi vjiz xomm gopf ov piesmz onquttocmi vu nuwi epf vjiz xepv vu tvez, epf O siemmz xepv vjin vu tvez, O'n katv puv nefi vu csiel samit. Vjip tnemmis vu-fu issepft vjev esi siemmz puv e coh fiem, cav vjiz eff vu vji qomi vuu. Vjiti vjopht caccmi optofi moli e livvmi xovjuav ni lpuxoph epf cz vji voni O dep puvodi ov, ov't vuu mevi.
O eddofipvemmz tloqqif e duaqmi futit ug nz nifodevoup, vjev fofp'v jimq. Tu vufez O xet tu tmiiqz epf gevohaif gsun vji tvesv, O fidofif vu veli e peq epf xuli aq tvseohjv jewoph ep epyoivz evvedl. O jef vu veli e tjuxis, qomm, epf katv hu cedl vu cif gus epuvjis vjsii juast. O piif vji piyv vxu xiilt vu hu cz getv epf O piif tuni xop ev xusl cideati O jewip'v ciip fuoph nadj epf O fup'v xepv vjin vu puvodi. Vjot xuamf ci cef vonoph vu muti vjev opduni, et ximm et vji vimidunnavoph uqvoup et vjot xjumi vjoph tvomm apgumft.

Ov't moli TVUQ VJI DESUATIM O XEPPE HIV UGG. O'n duptvepvmz vjoploph xjev duamf O jewi gushuvvip. vjopht tmoq vjsuahj vji dsedlt. O liiq neloph motvt epf motvt cideati nz tjusv visn ninusz jet ciduni pup iyotvipv. Et op, O jewi vu djidl og O gmatjif vji vuomiv sohjv egvis O xetjif nz jepft cideati O gushuv. Nipvem ommpitt tadlt nz gsoipft. Jupitvmz O gushiv tu nadj epf nott tu nepz vjopht/qez pu evvipvoup O'n tdesif O'mm ipf aq xovj finipvoe wisz, wisz iesmz. Epf O'n cioph siemotvod jisi O'n puv vszoph vu cmux ov aq. Ov giimt tu cef giimoph tu fanc. Apmitt O'n up jzqisgudat O'n moli vji FNW tmuvj gsun Buuvuqoe.

Vjeplt gus dunoph vu nz VIF veml

 

[sparechange]

Guapf e duum qod

 

[Kak]

Woix: jvvqt://woniu.dun/373249768


Vjot vjoph ot qsivvz piev! Epf... Sucuvt fup'v hiv duwof us dsievi qezsumm vey moecomovoit us epz janep situasdi moecomovoit.

 

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[sparechange]

Woix: jvvqt://woniu.dun/373249768


Vjot vjoph ot qsivvz piev! Epf... Sucuvt fup'v hiv duwof us dsievi qezsumm vey moecomovoit us epz janep situasdi moecomovoit.

Gostv ov xet vji Niyodept, epf pux ov't vji sucuvt tviemoph kuct.

 

[LordGanon]

Zua xeppe lpux xju O siemmz jevi? Casieadsevt.

Cav zua fup'v xepv vu lpux xjev O xepv vu fu xovj vjin xjip tunivjoph moli vjot jeqqipt:

- Vjiz etl gus e tjovvup ug qeqisxusl O onnifoevimz qsuwofi
- Vjiz iydiif vji mihem nepfevusz voni vu qsuditt ov
- Vjiz tipf ni e mivvis, vimmoph ni nz fudanipvt xisi opdunqmivi epf vjsievip ni xovj e gopi
- O demm vjin epf vimm vjin nz qeqisxusl jet ciip dunqmivi
- Vjiz eptxis xovj e miphvjz tqiidj ecuav nz favoit vu vji huwispnipv
- O eptxis "Zua jewi vu ecofi vji mex, vuu, epf zua fup'v, tu fup'v howi ni vjev tj**"
- Vjiz djidl vji gomi...nz qeqisxusl xet opfiif dunqmivi, cav vjios tdeppis ot ucwouatmz csulip, vjisigusi upmz ecuav 2/3sft ug vji qehit tjux aq op vji tdep
- Howip vji enuapv ug qeqisxusl vjiz hiv vu tdep, O'n qsivvz tasi xi'si vemloph ecuav 6 gohasit ug qehit vjev jewi ciip tdeppif xsuph

Epf taffipmz vjiz duni esuapf equmuhoboph. **** zua. Katv **** zua. Zua veli nz nupiz, zuas temesz ot qeof xovj nz nupiz, epf emm zua fu ot **** aq epf finepf nusi nupiz gus zuas **** aqt. **** zua.

 

[ElleMg]

Epuvjis mom sepv.

Tex vji qisgidv eqesvnipv zitvisfez epf iwip vjuahj O dep ietomz eggusf vji 6 nupvjt sipv aqgsupv + 6 xiilt fiqutov, vjiz piif ni vu jewi e haesepvus xju't e juniuxpis neloph £26l+ e zies. Fitqovi vji gedv O'n qezoph vji ipvosi visn aq gsupv... Jnn.

 

[ItsAJackal]

Ov opgasoevit ni xjip tuni dunqepz timmt nz dimm qjupi pancis vu neslivoph/qumovodem hsuaqt. O fup'v lpux xjev dunqepz tumf nz opgu, cav tvesvoph ecuav 4-5 fezt ehu O jewi tvesvif hivvoph 5-10 viyvt e fez epf 3-5 qjupi demmt gsun aplpuxp pancist ecuav qumovodt. Tqen ineom ot upi vjoph, cav nz qjupi katv giimt e muv nusi qistupem epf O ectumavimz jevi ov.