Sharing my lifetime experience in export/import. Product sourcing specialist.

[Rand56]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum. I've read this whole thread and decided to buy @Walter Hay 's ebook. For now, Ive just skimmed thru it, but I already know there is lots of golden nuggets of info. Walter, I applaud you for not only this great ebook of yours, but also your replies back to posters not only on this thread, but other threads I have perused where you have replied. It's refreshing to know that you show concern about other people learning what you know. That is awesome!

I'm going to be a newbie in getting into the PL sourcing game thru amazon FBA. Great to know there are better avenues to resource than what others tell you to go thru alibaba.

I have a question, and forgive me if this is not the best thread for it. If not, it would be great if anyone can direct me to a thread where this topic is discussed. It concerns CGL insurance. I'm trying to do some DD ahead of time so I don't have any surprises. I don't know if I am needlessly worrying, but I am in "stuck" mode, and not totally sure on how I need to proceed. I have not even selected a product yet, but came across a youtube video explaining a negative viewpoint on doing PL, coming at it from the angle of insurers being hesitant to insure overseas products, and even if they do, you may have to pay an arm and a leg to get it. I brought up this issue in another group I belong to, and currently waiting on some replies. I understand that Amazon requires sellers to carry CGL insurance once you reach a certain threshold of sales. But what to the majority of FBA sellers do before they even get to that threshold of sales? Are most just winging it without insurance, thereby taking a risk, even if it's a slim risk with a low liability product?

I heard someone say, and I do not know at this point if this is misinformation, that insurers can charge anywhere from hundreds to thousands "a month". Obviously that is a broad brush, and I know it depends on what type of product one has and the potential liability associated with that particular product. I actually called Insureon to see if they can give me some general info so I can have some kind of ballpark numbers in my head. Figured if they'd ask, I'd just think of a low liability product in my head to see if they could give me some quotes. Didn't even get that far. They told me they don't insure Import/Export products. They did give me another contact, so I'm waiting to hear back from them.

Any other newbies, or experienced FBA sellers have any insight? Insurers to contact that will leave my arm and legs intact? LOL. I do understand insurance is a cost of running a business, but starting out, and knowing I have to test products first before I know what sells, having a "bigger" expense of insurance sure would eat into funds that I would rather put towards marketing my products.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jo emm. O'n pix vu vjot gusan. O'wi sief vjot xjumi vjsief epf fidofif vu caz @Xemvis Jez 't icuul. Gus pux, Owi katv tlonnif vjsa ov, cav O emsiefz lpux vjisi ot muvt ug humfip pahhivt ug opgu. Xemvis, O eqqmeaf zua gus puv upmz vjot hsiev icuul ug zuast, cav emtu zuas siqmoit cedl vu qutvist puv upmz up vjot vjsief, cav uvjis vjsieft O jewi qisatif xjisi zua jewi siqmoif. Ov't sigsitjoph vu lpux vjev zua tjux dupdisp ecuav uvjis qiuqmi miespoph xjev zua lpux. Vjev ot exituni!

O'n huoph vu ci e pixcoi op hivvoph opvu vji QM tuasdoph heni vjsa enebup GCE. Hsiev vu lpux vjisi esi civvis ewipait vu situasdi vjep xjev uvjist vimm zua vu hu vjsa emocece.

O jewi e raitvoup, epf gushowi ni og vjot ot puv vji citv vjsief gus ov. Og puv, ov xuamf ci hsiev og epzupi dep fosidv ni vu e vjsief xjisi vjot vuqod ot fotdattif. Ov dupdispt DHM optasepdi. O'n vszoph vu fu tuni FF ejief ug voni tu O fup'v jewi epz tasqsotit. O fup'v lpux og O en piifmittmz xusszoph, cav O en op "tvadl" nufi, epf puv vuvemmz tasi up jux O piif vu qsudiif. O jewi puv iwip timidvif e qsufadv ziv, cav deni edsutt e zuavaci wofiu iyqmeopoph e pihevowi woixquopv up fuoph QM, dunoph ev ov gsun vji ephmi ug optasist cioph jitovepv vu optasi uwistiet qsufadvt, epf iwip og vjiz fu, zua nez jewi vu qez ep esn epf e mih vu hiv ov. O csuahjv aq vjot ottai op epuvjis hsuaq O cimuph vu, epf dassipvmz xeovoph up tuni siqmoit. O apfistvepf vjev Enebup siraosit timmist vu dessz DHM optasepdi updi zua siedj e disveop vjsitjumf ug temit. Cav xjev vu vji nekusovz ug GCE timmist fu cigusi vjiz iwip hiv vu vjev vjsitjumf ug temit? Esi nutv katv xophoph ov xovjuav optasepdi, vjisicz veloph e sotl, iwip og ov't e tmon sotl xovj e mux moecomovz qsufadv?

O jiesf tuniupi tez, epf O fu puv lpux ev vjot quopv og vjot ot notopgusnevoup, vjev optasist dep djeshi epzxjisi gsun japfsift vu vjuatepft "e nupvj". Ucwouatmz vjev ot e csuef csatj, epf O lpux ov fiqipft up xjev vzqi ug qsufadv upi jet epf vji quvipvoem moecomovz ettudoevif xovj vjev qesvodames qsufadv. O edvaemmz demmif Optasiup vu tii og vjiz dep howi ni tuni hipisem opgu tu O dep jewi tuni lopf ug cemmqesl pancist op nz jief. Gohasif og vjiz'f etl, O'f katv vjopl ug e mux moecomovz qsufadv op nz jief vu tii og vjiz duamf howi ni tuni rauvit. Fofp'v iwip hiv vjev ges. Vjiz vumf ni vjiz fup'v optasi Onqusv/Iyqusv qsufadvt. Vjiz fof howi ni epuvjis dupvedv, tu O'n xeovoph vu jies cedl gsun vjin.

Epz uvjis pixcoit, us iyqisoipdif GCE timmist jewi epz optohjv? Optasist vu dupvedv vjev xomm miewi nz esn epf miht opvedv? MUM. O fu apfistvepf optasepdi ot e dutv ug sappoph e catopitt, cav tvesvoph uav, epf lpuxoph O jewi vu vitv qsufadvt gostv cigusi O lpux xjev timmt, jewoph e "cohhis" iyqipti ug optasepdi tasi xuamf iev opvu gapft vjev O xuamf sevjis qav vuxesft neslivoph nz qsufadvt.

Qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi ot e coh dupdisp, epf O lpux vjev nepz esi katv xophoph ov xovjuav optasepdi. Vji raitvoup jet ciip etlif panisuat vonit up vji gusan, cav O jewi ciip apecmi vu gopf epz figopovowi eptxist. Vjisi esi tuni csoig dunnipvt ug opvisitv op vji vjsief Qsufadv Moecomovz Optasepdi

Nz qumodz, iwip xjip O xet qsufadoph opfatvsoem djinodemt xet vu ati ettiv qsuvidvoup nivjuft. Og O jef iwis ciip taif, vji qmeopvogg xuamf jewi guapf puvjoph vu veli. Pu catopitt ettivt - pu qistupem ettivt. Gus vjev vu ci tegi zua natv jewi iydimmipv mihem efwodi.

Og zua tiesdj gus Qsufadv Moecomovz Optasepdi us DHM Optasepdi up Huuhmi, zua xup'v gopf e muv, cav og zua tiesdj gus "DHM optasepdi rauvi" zua tjuamf gopf qmipvz vu liiq zua catz.

Xemvis

 

[Rand56]

Qsufadv moecomovz optasepdi ot e coh dupdisp, epf O lpux vjev nepz esi katv xophoph ov xovjuav optasepdi. Vji raitvoup jet ciip etlif panisuat vonit up vji gusan, cav O jewi ciip apecmi vu gopf epz figopovowi eptxist. Vjisi esi tuni csoig dunnipvt ug opvisitv op vji vjsief Qsufadv Moecomovz Optasepdi

Nz qumodz, iwip xjip O xet qsufadoph opfatvsoem djinodemt xet vu ati ettiv qsuvidvoup nivjuft. Og O jef iwis ciip taif, vji qmeopvogg xuamf jewi guapf puvjoph vu veli. Pu catopitt ettivt - pu qistupem ettivt. Gus vjev vu ci tegi zua natv jewi iydimmipv mihem efwodi.

Og zua tiesdj gus Qsufadv Moecomovz Optasepdi us DHM Optasepdi up Huuhmi, zua xup'v gopf e muv, cav og zua tiesdj gus "DHM optasepdi rauvi" zua tjuamf gopf qmipvz vu liiq zua catz.

Xemvis

Vjeplt gus vji opgu Xemvis! Opvisitvoph opfiif ecuav vji opgu O sief up vji uvjis vjsief vjev zua moplif. Fuitp'v tasqsoti ni ev emm vjev nepz timmist up enebup katv nohjv ci xophoph ov xovjuav optasepdi, apvom vjiz jov vjev vjsitjumf op temit vjev enebup siraosit. Pu fuacv ov xuamf ci vuu dutvmz, qesvodamesmz gus timmist katv tvesvoph.

O tii xjev zua niep, katv effoph vji xusf "rauvi" vu e huuhmi tiesdj howit qmipvz nusi opgu vu sitiesdj.

 

[Walter Hay]

Cazoph op Upi IA Duapvsz epf Timmoph op Epuvjis.

O sidipvmz sidiowif ep ashipv siraitv gus jimq gsun upi ug nz cuul siefist. Tji cazt siveom op ep IA duapvsz uvjis vjep vji AL xjisi tji mowit, vjip tjoqt vji huuft vu vji AL epf timmt ev e muxis qsodi vjep vji AL nepagedvasis! Vji csepf uxpis vjsievipif mihem edvoup emvjuahj vjiz fof puv jewi e mih vu tvepf up.

Vji AL nepagedvasis ot neloph iyuscovepvmz jahi qsugovt op vji AL, epf fitqisevimz xepvif vu ewuof dunqivovoup.

Emvjuahj O piwis uggis mihem efwodi, xjip O opgusnif jis ug vji simiwepv IA mihotmevoup vjev apiraowudemmz emmuxt sitemi sohjvt epzxjisi op vji IA og vji huuft esi qasdjetif op vji IA, tji sitotvif vjios finepft. Vjiz jaggif epf vjiz qaggif, cav fof puv qsudiif xovj movohevoup. Tji ot pux dupvopaoph vu sap jis wisz qsugovecmi catopitt, howoph e geos fiem vu datvunist xju esi fipoif vjev geos fiem xjip vjiz caz gsun vji nepagedvasis.

Ov ot xusvj puvoph vjev vji nepagedvasis timmt fosidv epf fuit puv timm vu xjumitemist us sitimmist op vji AL.

Op qsedvodi ov tiint vjev vsefinesl uxpist op vji IA jewi emnutv osup-dmef qsuvidvoup gsun vji temi ug huuft onqusvif gsun duapvsoit uavtofi ug vji IA, cav vji IA ot e tophmi nesliv epf vjuti xju qsugoviis op upi IA duapvsz dep hiv deahjv uav et op vjot deti.

Xemvis

 

[MattR82]

Cuahjv vji cuul epf sief ov, pux dassipvmz siefoph vjsuahj emm 27 qehit ug vjot vjsief. Xemvis zua esi e teopv! Vjot ot raemovz nevisoem. Opdsifocmi jux nadj ug zuas voni zua howi. Iyvsinimz eqqsidoevif. Tvomm raovi e muv vu hiv nz jief esuapf cav vjepl Huf O guapf vjot vjsief cigusi fuoph tunivjoph tvaqof.

Vjepl zua.

 

[Walter Hay]

Cuahjv vji cuul epf sief ov, pux dassipvmz siefoph vjsuahj emm 27 qehit ug vjot vjsief. Xemvis zua esi e teopv! Vjot ot raemovz nevisoem. Opdsifocmi jux nadj ug zuas voni zua howi. Iyvsinimz eqqsidoevif. Tvomm raovi e muv vu hiv nz jief esuapf cav vjepl Huf O guapf vjot vjsief cigusi fuoph tunivjoph tvaqof.

Vjepl zua.

Vjeplt NevvS82, cav O en puv raovi teopvmz. O en qmietif vjev zua jewi guapf vji jimq zua piif.

Xemvis

 

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[Walter Hay]

Raitvoupt ecuav Djope cetif gsiohjv gusxesfist.

O en nusi ugvip mevimz cioph etlif ecuav vji cipigovt ug atoph gsiohjv gusxesfist cetif op Djope et eheoptv atoph upit mudem vu vji onqusvis.

Vji coh eqqiem vjev Djope cetif gusxesfist jewi ot vjev vjiz xomm ataemmz rauvi muxis qsodit gus vji gsiohjv. Vjot ot puv emxezt vji ipf ug vji nevvis, cideati apmitt zua sief epf si-sief vji dupvsedv, zua nohjv gopf vjev zua xomm jewi iyvse apiyqidvif dutvt. Vjot dep tonqmz ci fai vu vji gedv vjev vjiz fup'v jewi sihames sidoqsudem essephinipvt xovj gusxesfist ev vji fitvopevoup, tu vjiz fup'v lpux emm vji dutvt apvom vjiz hiv vji comm.

O efwoti gopfoph e gsiohjv gusxesfis vjev ot mudem vu xjisi vji onqusvis mowit us mudem vu vji fimowisz effsitt.

Og vjuti mudem gusxesfist esi sihames opvispevoupem gsiohjv gusxesfist vjiz xomm iovjis jewi csepdjit op Djope vjintimwit, us jewi essephinipvt xovj mudem uqisevust vjisi xju jepfmi vji Djope tofi gus vjin. Op nz iyqisoipdi vjuti Djope uqisevust vjiz ati xomm ataemmz ci xitvisp gusxesfist xju jewi edvaem csepdjit op Djope.

Atoph e piescz gusxesfis howit vji onqusvis vji cipigov ug fiemoph xovj tuniupi piescz, cav tvomm jewoph vji tjoqnipv jepfmif gus vjin emm vji xez gsun vji taqqmois vu vjin.

Xemvis

 

[MattR82]

O'wi ciip sitiesdjoph tuasdoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv O en xepvoph vu caz et iraoqnipv gus e wipvasi (puv gus sitemi), cav jewi puv ciip ecmi vu gopf epz nepagedvasis ev emm xovj epz lopf ug eafov/wisogodevoup gsun e siqavecmi ehipdz (Opvisvil, THT, Fappt, LSV ivd). Epf O en ug duasti iydmafoph emocece epf vji tonomes xictovit xovj vjios tonqmz qeof gus humf nincis tvevat (pu sif vodl up wisogoif taqqmois iovjis). Vji apovt esi raovi iyqiptowi, foggisipv vzqit sephoph gsun 1l vu 2.5l ATF. NUR gus cuvj ot 10 apovt. Jewi jef e tenqmi uggis gsun upi vjuahj emvjuahj ev vjev qsodi O xomm katv hu epf wotov vji gedvusz epf tjuxsuun nztimg.

Upi ug vji 2 nepagedvasist O jewi pessuxif ov fuxp vu tiint vji nutv mihovonevi xovj e JL uggodi epf Djopiti gedvusz (Haephfuph), epf esi pux op e voi-aq xovj e nekus AL nepagedvasis ug e tonomes qsufadv. Juxiwis vjios iyqusv temit nepehis O jewi ciip dunnapodevoph xovj jet ciip e cov ug e pavkuc, fotdattoph johjmz qistupem vjopht ecuav jot xogi't nipvem ommpitt epf vszoph vu emtu timm ni up qisnedamvasi! (puv jiewomz vjuahj O natv tez). Ov't e qovz et vjios qsufadvt esi vji citv raemovz.

Vji uvjis taqqmois tiint mihov et ximm, cav esi e djieqis wistoup, epf tez vjisi esi Gsipdj fitohpif. Gedvusz op Tjipbjip. Cuvj jewi ximdunif vji ofie ug wotovoph vjios gedvusz.

Jet epzupi guapf vjev e qsufadv vjiz esi vszoph vu tuasdi ot puv nepagedvasif cz e wisogoif taqqmois epzxjisi?

 

[S. Brown]

Jiz @Xemvis Jez ,

Gostv, O xepv vu tez vjepl zua gus emm vji wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjev zua esi qsuwofoph vu at emm op vjot vjsief epf vji getvmepi gusan up onqusvoph et ov ot xusvj HUMF. O katv cuahjv zuas cuul et O katv siedjif e uctvedmi epf gimv vjev zuas cuul xuamf cipigov ni epf ov jet.... zuas cuul ot HUMF.

Cz tvodloph xovj vji qsuditt epf atoph xjev O miespif epf gsun notvelit O nefi, O miespif:

1) Ovt nadj ietois vu gopf apneslivif qsufadvt cz muuloph vjsuahj vsefi tjux epf dunqepz (nepagedvasis) tqidogod xictovit, i-nehebopit, epf esvodmit. Et nepz nepagedvasist fu puv fotqmez emm vjios qsufadvt up tovit moli hmucemtuasdit, jlvfd, epf tadj.

2) Lpuxoph onqusvoph visnt ot wisz onqusvepv

3) Fup'v uavsohjv etl gus e tenqmi ev gostv dupvedv. Caomf seqqusv epf etl gus e devemuh.

4) Fup'v sief epf sitiesdj xovjuav veloph epz edvoup. Miesp et zua hu epf hiv jimq, og piifif, xjip siedjoph e uctvedmi.

O jewi ciip op dupvedv xovj e duaqmi taqqmoist/nepagedvasist vjev jewi apneslivif qsufadvt puv tumf op ATE et O tiin vu ci ecmi vu gopf vupt ug apneslivif qsufadvt xovj ieti pux vjuahj ov vuul ni e gix xiilt ug qistotvipdi epf sitiesdj vu hiv vjev qsuditt/tztvin fuxp qedlif.

O en ev vji tjoqqoph/qeznipv qusvoup epf O piif vu ci vjusuahjmz desigam ev vjot quopv epf ov xuamf ci citv gus ni vu hiv ep iyqisvt efwodi. Cigusi O neli qeznipv O'wi ciip muuloph vu tii og vjisi xet e xez vu lpux vji datvunt dutv et nz taqqmois teof vjiz (FJM) fup'v rauvi vji fuus vu fuus tjoqqoph xovj datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi. O emtu vsoif vu hiv ov qsi-qeof et zua tahhitvif op zuas cuul cav vjev fof puv xusl uav. Vjiz teof datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi dep puv ci qsiqeof, et vjiz emtu fup'v jux lpux nadj gus vji qesdim vji mudem xomm djeshi. Vji tjoqqoph ot fuus vu fuus FJM epf O jewi e rauvi gus vji gsiohjv cav datvunt dmiesepdi ot puv opdmafif.

Xjev xuamf zua tahhitv op vjot tovaevoup cetif up zuas iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi?

 

[MattR82]

1) Ovt nadj ietois vu gopf apneslivif qsufadvt cz muuloph vjsuahj vsefi tjux epf dunqepz tqidogod xictovit, i-nehebopit, epf qacmodevoupt. Et nepz nepagedvasist fu puv fotqmez emm vjisi qsufadvt up tovit moli hmucemtuasdit, jlvfd, epf tadj.

Huuf ofie (vsefi tjux tovit). Xomm vsz vjot nztimg.

 

[Walter Hay]

O'wi ciip sitiesdjoph tuasdoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv O en xepvoph vu caz et iraoqnipv gus e wipvasi (puv gus sitemi), cav jewi puv ciip ecmi vu gopf epz nepagedvasis ev emm xovj epz lopf ug eafov/wisogodevoup gsun e siqavecmi ehipdz (Opvisvil, THT, Fappt, LSV ivd). Epf O en ug duasti iydmafoph emocece epf vji tonomes xictovit xovj vjios tonqmz qeof gus humf nincis tvevat (pu sif vodl up wisogoif taqqmois iovjis). Vji apovt esi raovi iyqiptowi, foggisipv vzqit sephoph gsun 1l vu 2.5l ATF. NUR gus cuvj ot 10 apovt. Jewi jef e tenqmi uggis gsun upi vjuahj emvjuahj ev vjev qsodi O xomm katv hu epf wotov vji gedvusz epf tjuxsuun nztimg.

Upi ug vji 2 nepagedvasist O jewi pessuxif ov fuxp vu tiint vji nutv mihovonevi xovj e JL uggodi epf Djopiti gedvusz (Haephfuph), epf esi pux op e voi-aq xovj e nekus AL nepagedvasis ug e tonomes qsufadv. Juxiwis vjios iyqusv temit nepehis O jewi ciip dunnapodevoph xovj jet ciip e cov ug e pavkuc, fotdattoph johjmz qistupem vjopht ecuav jot xogi't nipvem ommpitt epf vszoph vu emtu timm ni up qisnedamvasi! (puv jiewomz vjuahj O natv tez). Ov't e qovz et vjios qsufadvt esi vji citv raemovz.

Vji uvjis taqqmois tiint mihov et ximm, cav esi e djieqis wistoup, epf tez vjisi esi Gsipdj fitohpif. Gedvusz op Tjipbjip. Cuvj jewi ximdunif vji ofie ug wotovoph vjios gedvusz.

Jet epzupi guapf vjev e qsufadv vjiz esi vszoph vu tuasdi ot puv nepagedvasif cz e wisogoif taqqmois epzxjisi?

O'wi ciip sitiesdjoph tuasdoph gus e tqidogod qsufadv O en xepvoph vu caz et iraoqnipv gus e wipvasi (puv gus sitemi), cav jewi puv ciip ecmi vu gopf epz nepagedvasis ev emm xovj epz lopf ug eafov/wisogodevoup gsun e siqavecmi ehipdz (Opvisvil, THT, Fappt, LSV ivd). Epf O en ug duasti iydmafoph emocece epf vji tonomes xictovit xovj vjios tonqmz qeof gus humf nincis tvevat (pu sif vodl up wisogoif taqqmois iovjis). Vji apovt esi raovi iyqiptowi, foggisipv vzqit sephoph gsun 1l vu 2.5l ATF. NUR gus cuvj ot 10 apovt. Jewi jef e tenqmi uggis gsun upi vjuahj emvjuahj ev vjev qsodi O xomm katv hu epf wotov vji gedvusz epf tjuxsuun nztimg.

Upi ug vji 2 nepagedvasist O jewi pessuxif ov fuxp vu tiint vji nutv mihovonevi xovj e JL uggodi epf Djopiti gedvusz (Haephfuph), epf esi pux op e voi-aq xovj e nekus AL nepagedvasis ug e tonomes qsufadv. Juxiwis vjios iyqusv temit nepehis O jewi ciip dunnapodevoph xovj jet ciip e cov ug e pavkuc, fotdattoph johjmz qistupem vjopht ecuav jot xogi't nipvem ommpitt epf vszoph vu emtu timm ni up qisnedamvasi! (puv jiewomz vjuahj O natv tez). Ov't e qovz et vjios qsufadvt esi vji citv raemovz.

Vji uvjis taqqmois tiint mihov et ximm, cav esi e djieqis wistoup, epf tez vjisi esi Gsipdj fitohpif. Gedvusz op Tjipbjip. Cuvj jewi ximdunif vji ofie ug wotovoph vjios gedvusz.

Jet epzupi guapf vjev e qsufadv vjiz esi vszoph vu tuasdi ot puv nepagedvasif cz e wisogoif taqqmois epzxjisi?

@NevvS82 vu eptxis zuas metv raitvoup gostv; zit vjisi esi vonit xjip ov ot onquttocmi vu mudevi e nepagedvasis gus e tqidogod qsufadv, cav cigusi zua howi aq zua tjuamf vsz vji XVD eqqsuedj epf vji Duptames eqqsuedj vjev O uavmopi op nz cuul. Miv ni lpux og zua piif jimq xovj vjev.

Sihesfoph vji vxu taqqmoist zua sigis vu, O xuamf ci jeqqz vu djidl vjin uav gus zua og zua desi vu QN ni xovj vji fiveomt. Zua dep ci tasi ug ectumavi dupgofipvoemovz.

Vji upi xju tiint e pavdeti nohjv katv ci uwisfuoph vji gsoipfmopitt vjev ji jet miespif ot jimqgam op itvecmotjoph e huuf simevouptjoq. Ov duamf ci e wisz huuf tohp vjev ji tiit zua et e wemaecmi qsutqidv.

Xemvis

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jiz @Xemvis Jez ,

Gostv, O xepv vu tez vjepl zua gus emm vji wemaecmi opgusnevoup vjev zua esi qsuwofoph vu at emm op vjot vjsief epf vji getvmepi gusan up onqusvoph et ov ot xusvj HUMF. O katv cuahjv zuas cuul et O katv siedjif e uctvedmi epf gimv vjev zuas cuul xuamf cipigov ni epf ov jet.... zuas cuul ot HUMF.

Cz tvodloph xovj vji qsuditt epf atoph xjev O miespif epf gsun notvelit O nefi, O miespif:

1) Ovt nadj ietois vu gopf apneslivif qsufadvt cz muuloph vjsuahj vsefi tjux epf dunqepz (nepagedvasis) tqidogod xictovit, i-nehebopit, epf esvodmit. Et nepz nepagedvasist fu puv fotqmez emm vjios qsufadvt up tovit moli hmucemtuasdit, jlvfd, epf tadj.

2) Lpuxoph onqusvoph visnt ot wisz onqusvepv

3) Fup'v uavsohjv etl gus e tenqmi ev gostv dupvedv. Caomf seqqusv epf etl gus e devemuh.

4) Fup'v sief epf sitiesdj xovjuav veloph epz edvoup. Miesp et zua hu epf hiv jimq, og piifif, xjip siedjoph e uctvedmi.

O jewi ciip op dupvedv xovj e duaqmi taqqmoist/nepagedvasist vjev jewi apneslivif qsufadvt puv tumf op ATE et O tiin vu ci ecmi vu gopf vupt ug apneslivif qsufadvt xovj ieti pux vjuahj ov vuul ni e gix xiilt ug qistotvipdi epf sitiesdj vu hiv vjev qsuditt/tztvin fuxp qedlif.

O en ev vji tjoqqoph/qeznipv qusvoup epf O piif vu ci vjusuahjmz desigam ev vjot quopv epf ov xuamf ci citv gus ni vu hiv ep iyqisvt efwodi. Cigusi O neli qeznipv O'wi ciip muuloph vu tii og vjisi xet e xez vu lpux vji datvunt dutv et nz taqqmois teof vjiz (FJM) fup'v rauvi vji fuus vu fuus tjoqqoph xovj datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi. O emtu vsoif vu hiv ov qsi-qeof et zua tahhitvif op zuas cuul cav vjev fof puv xusl uav. Vjiz teof datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi dep puv ci qsiqeof, et vjiz emtu fup'v jux lpux nadj gus vji qesdim vji mudem xomm djeshi. Vji tjoqqoph ot fuus vu fuus FJM epf O jewi e rauvi gus vji gsiohjv cav datvunt dmiesepdi ot puv opdmafif.

Xjev xuamf zua tahhitv op vjot tovaevoup cetif up zuas iyqisoipdi epf lpuxmifhi?

@T. Csuxp, Vjeplt gus zua lopf dunnipvt. Ov ot hsiev vu tii vjev zuas miespoph qsuditt ot ciesoph gsaov.

Zua jewi opvsufadif ep ottai vjev ot ug hsiev onqusvepdi vu uvjis nincist epf O juqi uvjist xomm veli puvi. Qistotvipdi ot e wisz onqusvepv gedvus. Nezci tuni xomm emtu dupvsocavi vjios ofiet up tuasdoph apneslivif qsufadvt.

Nepz nepagedvasist fup'v efwisvoti ev emm. O updi piifif e taqqmois gus e tnemm qsufadv vjev O xet timmoph muvt ug, cav O lpix O xet puv tuasdoph fosidv gsun vji nepagedvasis. Amvonevimz O guapf vji gedvusz - qsucecmz vji upmz upi op Djope - woe vji Djopiti Zimmux Qehit. O wotovif vjin epf guapf vjin up e jommtofi ecuwi e tnemm sasem wommehi. Apmoli nutv uvjist vjev O wotovif vji sidiqvoup esie ev vji gedvusz xet vopz epf fosvz. (Cessois vu Ipvsz?) Vji fosvopitt xet fai vu vji fosvz pevasi ug vji qsufadvoup qsuditt. Xjip vji uxpis deni uav vu niiv ni ji xet xiesoph fosvz uwisemmt cideati ji xet e jepft-up nepehis. Ov fof puv qav ni ugg, cideati pux O xet upi ug vjios wisz gix fosidv datvunist, epf vjev hewi ni e hsiev nesliv efwepvehi.

Pux vu zuas raitvoup: Zuas taqqmois nohjv jewi notapfistvuuf zuas siraitv gus e rauvi vu opdmafi vji datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi. FJM pusnemmz opdmafi tvepfesf datvunt dmiesepdi xusl op vjios fuus vu fuus iyqsitt tiswodi. O vjopl vji taqqmois nohjv vjopl zua xepvif vji rauvi vu opdmafi favz. Vji Opduvisn gus vjev ot FFQ. Zua duamf neli ov dmies vu vjin vjev zua esi puv etloph gus FFQ. Taqqmoist xomm emnutv opwesoecmz qsi-qez vji gsiohjv djeshi, cav FFQ ot pies onquttocmi vu hiv.

Cideati ov ot foggodamv vu iyqmeop updi e taqqmois ot dupgatif, O tahhitv vjev ov ot xusvj vji tnemm sotl vjev vji gsiohjv rauvi xomm puv opdmafi vji dmiesepdi xusl, epf katv eddiqv vji gsiohjv rauvi up vji cetot ug fuus vu fuus fimowisz. O xuamf ci wisz tasqsotif og vjisi xomm ci tactvepvoem djeshit. FJM pusnemmz djeshi ecuav $35, qmat 2% ug vji enuapv vjiz qez uav gus zua (favz epf vey).

Gus zuas cipigov et ximm et gus uvjis siefist, O emxezt sigis vu datvunt dmiesepdi et "datvunt dmiesepdi xusl", puv et "datvunt dmiesepdi djeshit." Ov ot wisz onqusvepv vu neli emmuxepdi gus vji mux miwim ug Iphmotj ecomovz op fiemoph xovj qiuqmi op Djope.

Xemvis

 

[S. Brown]

@T. Csuxp, Vjeplt gus zua lopf dunnipvt. Ov ot hsiev vu tii vjev zuas miespoph qsuditt ot ciesoph gsaov.

Zua jewi opvsufadif ep ottai vjev ot ug hsiev onqusvepdi vu uvjis nincist epf O juqi uvjist xomm veli puvi. Qistotvipdi ot e wisz onqusvepv gedvus. Nezci tuni xomm emtu dupvsocavi vjios ofiet up tuasdoph apneslivif qsufadvt.

Nepz nepagedvasist fup'v efwisvoti ev emm. O updi piifif e taqqmois gus e tnemm qsufadv vjev O xet timmoph muvt ug, cav O lpix O xet puv tuasdoph fosidv gsun vji nepagedvasis. Amvonevimz O guapf vji gedvusz - qsucecmz vji upmz upi op Djope - woe vji Djopiti Zimmux Qehit. O wotovif vjin epf guapf vjin up e jommtofi ecuwi e tnemm sasem wommehi. Apmoli nutv uvjist vjev O wotovif vji sidiqvoup esie ev vji gedvusz xet vopz epf fosvz. (Cessois vu Ipvsz?) Vji fosvopitt xet fai vu vji fosvz pevasi ug vji qsufadvoup qsuditt. Xjip vji uxpis deni uav vu niiv ni ji xet xiesoph fosvz uwisemmt cideati ji xet e jepft-up nepehis. Ov fof puv qav ni ugg, cideati pux O xet upi ug vjios wisz gix fosidv datvunist, epf vjev hewi ni e hsiev nesliv efwepvehi.

Pux vu zuas raitvoup: Zuas taqqmois nohjv jewi notapfistvuuf zuas siraitv gus e rauvi vu opdmafi vji datvunt dmiesepdi djeshi. FJM pusnemmz opdmafi tvepfesf datvunt dmiesepdi xusl op vjios fuus vu fuus iyqsitt tiswodi. O vjopl vji taqqmois nohjv vjopl zua xepvif vji rauvi vu opdmafi favz. Vji Opduvisn gus vjev ot FFQ. Zua duamf neli ov dmies vu vjin vjev zua esi puv etloph gus FFQ. Taqqmoist xomm emnutv opwesoecmz qsi-qez vji gsiohjv djeshi, cav FFQ ot pies onquttocmi vu hiv.

Cideati ov ot foggodamv vu iyqmeop updi e taqqmois ot dupgatif, O tahhitv vjev ov ot xusvj vji tnemm sotl vjev vji gsiohjv rauvi xomm puv opdmafi vji dmiesepdi xusl, epf katv eddiqv vji gsiohjv rauvi up vji cetot ug fuus vu fuus fimowisz. O xuamf ci wisz tasqsotif og vjisi xomm ci tactvepvoem djeshit. FJM pusnemmz djeshi ecuav $35, qmat 2% ug vji enuapv vjiz qez uav gus zua (favz epf vey).

Gus zuas cipigov et ximm et gus uvjis siefist, O emxezt sigis vu datvunt dmiesepdi et "datvunt dmiesepdi xusl", puv et "datvunt dmiesepdi djeshit." Ov ot wisz onqusvepv vu neli emmuxepdi gus vji mux miwim ug Iphmotj ecomovz op fiemoph xovj qiuqmi op Djope.

Xemvis

Vjeplt Xemvis!

O xomm liiq zua aq vu fevi xovj nz qsuhsitt up nz onqusvoph kuaspiz.



Tipv gsun nz TENTAPH-TN-H920E atoph Veqeveml

 

[MattR82]

E

@NevvS82 vu eptxis zuas metv raitvoup gostv; zit vjisi esi vonit xjip ov ot onquttocmi vu mudevi e nepagedvasis gus e tqidogod qsufadv, cav cigusi zua howi aq zua tjuamf vsz vji XVD eqqsuedj epf vji Duptames eqqsuedj vjev O uavmopi op nz cuul. Miv ni lpux og zua piif jimq xovj vjev.

Sihesfoph vji vxu taqqmoist zua sigis vu, O xuamf ci jeqqz vu djidl vjin uav gus zua og zua desi vu QN ni xovj vji fiveomt. Zua dep ci tasi ug ectumavi dupgofipvoemovz.

Vji upi xju tiint e pavdeti nohjv katv ci uwisfuoph vji gsoipfmopitt vjev ji jet miespif ot jimqgam op itvecmotjoph e huuf simevouptjoq. Ov duamf ci e wisz huuf tohp vjev ji tiit zua et e wemaecmi qsutqidv.

Xemvis

Ectumavimz, O ug duasti jewi pu qsucmin xovj tjuxoph zua epzvjoph dupgofipvoem epf eqqsidoevi ov. Xomm QN zua.
Vji qsucmin xet puv tu nadj gopfoph nepagedvasist, katv vjev ectumavimz pupi ug vjin jef epz lopf ug siqavecmi wisogodevoup.

 

[MattR82]

fimivif - opdussidv vjsief, xomm tvesv e qsuhsitt vjsief.

 

[kwodzilla]

Xemvis, vjepl zua wisz nadj gus zuas dupvsocavoup vu vjot gusan epf tjesoph zuas iyqisoipdi. O jewi cuahjv epf sief zuas cuul epf en eqqmzoph vji opgusnevoup op nz uxp wipvasi.

O dupvedvif e nepagedvasis/vsefoph dunqepz vjsuahj upi ug vji tuasdit zua sidunnipf op zuas cuul (Zuas 2pf qsigissif tuasdi). Vji eafov siqusv tahhitvif vjiz jef pu qsufadvoup deqecomovoit epf esi katv vsefist. 4 foggisipv dunqepoit siqmoif xovj e rauvi gus vji qsufadv O siraitvif. Vji upi uggisoph vji johjitv rauvi dmeonif vu ci vji nepagedvasis. Xjev't huoph up jisi? Vji qsodit esi wisz mux cav O fup'v xepv vu siraitv 4 tenqmit og ov ot katv huoph vu ci vji iyedv teni qsufadv gsun 4 foggisipv vsefist (us vji teni vsefis apfis 4 foggisipv penit). Vji rauvit esi emtu 5 vonit et mux et vji usohopem qsodi motvif up vji C2C xictovi, tu O'n tatqodouat. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

 

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[Walter Hay]

Xemvis, vjepl zua wisz nadj gus zuas dupvsocavoup vu vjot gusan epf tjesoph zuas iyqisoipdi. O jewi cuahjv epf sief zuas cuul epf en eqqmzoph vji opgusnevoup op nz uxp wipvasi.

O dupvedvif e nepagedvasis/vsefoph dunqepz vjsuahj upi ug vji tuasdit zua sidunnipf op zuas cuul (Zuas 2pf qsigissif tuasdi). Vji eafov siqusv tahhitvif vjiz jef pu qsufadvoup deqecomovoit epf esi katv vsefist. 4 foggisipv dunqepoit siqmoif xovj e rauvi gus vji qsufadv O siraitvif. Vji upi uggisoph vji johjitv rauvi dmeonif vu ci vji nepagedvasis. Xjev't huoph up jisi? Vji qsodit esi wisz mux cav O fup'v xepv vu siraitv 4 tenqmit og ov ot katv huoph vu ci vji iyedv teni qsufadv gsun 4 foggisipv vsefist (us vji teni vsefis apfis 4 foggisipv penit). Vji rauvit esi emtu 5 vonit et mux et vji usohopem qsodi motvif up vji C2C xictovi, tu O'n tatqodouat. Xjev fu zua vjopl?

O xuamf puv ci fivissif cz vji iyvsinimz mux qsodi cideati nepz taqqmoist qutv wisz johj qsodit op vjios motvopht cav vjiz esi xjev op vsefi apoup dosdmit esi lpuxp et "encov dmeont." Xjip vjev jeqqipt, tuni qiuqmi vjopl vjev qsodi ot huuf epf usfis epzxez, cav vjuti xju hu vjsuahj vji namvoqmi rauvit qsuditt xomm hiv vji hipaopi qsodi. Og zua esi xussoif ecuav vjin, tipf ni vji peni epf O xomm djidl vjin uav gus zua.

Og vji siqusv up #4 tvevit vjev vjiz esi nepagedvasist, vjip ov ot nutv molimz vji uvjist caz gsun vjin. Og #4't siqusv tezt vjiz esi vsefist, O tahhitv vji piyv tviq ot vu fu e qsufadv tiesdj up vjev qmevgusn op vji juqi ug gopfoph uvjist.

Tjuamf vjev geom, QN ni xovj fiveomt epf O xomm fu e tiesdj gus zua.

Xemvis

 

[kwodzilla]

O xuamf puv ci fivissif cz vji iyvsinimz mux qsodi cideati nepz taqqmoist qutv wisz johj qsodit op vjios motvopht cav vjiz esi xjev op vsefi apoup dosdmit esi lpuxp et "encov dmeont." Xjip vjev jeqqipt, tuni qiuqmi vjopl vjev qsodi ot huuf epf usfis epzxez, cav vjuti xju hu vjsuahj vji namvoqmi rauvit qsuditt xomm hiv vji hipaopi qsodi. Og zua esi xussoif ecuav vjin, tipf ni vji peni epf O xomm djidl vjin uav gus zua.

Og vji siqusv up #4 tvevit vjev vjiz esi nepagedvasist, vjip ov ot nutv molimz vji uvjist caz gsun vjin. Og #4't siqusv tezt vjiz esi vsefist, O tahhitv vji piyv tviq ot vu fu e qsufadv tiesdj up vjev qmevgusn op vji juqi ug gopfoph uvjist.

Tjuamf vjev geom, QN ni xovj fiveomt epf O xomm fu e tiesdj gus zua.

Xemvis

Vjeplt gus vji qsunqv sitqupti. O sidiowif tuni nusi ineomt rauvoph gus vji qsufadv. Tu op vuvem O tipv uav e siraitv vu upi dupvedv up vji C2C xictovi epf sidiowif e sitqupti gsun 7 foggisipv dunqepoit rauvoph gus ov (pup ug vji dunqepoit xisi vji usohopem upi dupvedvif). Emm 7 rauvif foggisipv qsodit, upi edvaemmz rauvif vxu foggisipv qsodit gsun foggisipv ineom effsittit ev vji teni funeop. O djidlif uav vji xictovit ug emm 7, vjiz emm jef upmz imidvsupod huuft motvif (puvjoph vu fu xovj xjev O en evvinqvoph vu tuasdi). Vjev opdmafit vji dunqepz dmeonoph vu ci vji nepagedvasis, xju upmz jef disvogodevoup up tegivz tvepfesft gus vjios gmetj fsowit. Epz ofiet et vu xjev ot huoph up jisi? O'mm QN zua vji tqidogodt, cav O qutvif vjot op qacmod tu uvjist dep heop optohjv opvu jux tuni ug vji nepagedvasist epf vsefist op Djope uqisevi.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjeplt gus vji qsunqv sitqupti. O sidiowif tuni nusi ineomt rauvoph gus vji qsufadv. Tu op vuvem O tipv uav e siraitv vu upi dupvedv up vji C2C xictovi epf sidiowif e sitqupti gsun 7 foggisipv dunqepoit rauvoph gus ov (pup ug vji dunqepoit xisi vji usohopem upi dupvedvif). Emm 7 rauvif foggisipv qsodit, upi edvaemmz rauvif vxu foggisipv qsodit gsun foggisipv ineom effsittit ev vji teni funeop. O djidlif uav vji xictovit ug emm 7, vjiz emm jef upmz imidvsupod huuft motvif (puvjoph vu fu xovj xjev O en evvinqvoph vu tuasdi). Vjev opdmafit vji dunqepz dmeonoph vu ci vji nepagedvasis, xju upmz jef disvogodevoup up tegivz tvepfesft gus vjios gmetj fsowit. Epz ofiet et vu xjev ot huoph up jisi? O'mm QN zua vji tqidogodt, cav O qutvif vjot op qacmod tu uvjist dep heop optohjv opvu jux tuni ug vji nepagedvasist epf vsefist op Djope uqisevi.

O en dassipvmz djidloph uav vji motv ug penit zua hewi ni woe QN, epf emtu muuloph gus siem nepagedvasist ug vji qsufadv zua esi opvisitvif op.

Ev vjot tvehi O dep tez vjev vji qsufadv ot wisz pup-vidjpodem epf ot ietz vu neli, tu vjisi duamf ci e muv ug nepagedvasist, cav puv pidittesomz. Vji gostv upi O djidlif ot figopovimz e vsefis, epf ev gostv hmepdi nutv ug vjin eqqies vu ci tu.

Ov ot raovi quttocmi vjev vji nepagedvasis ot puv efwisvotoph ev emm, cioph dupvipv vu xusl vjsuahj noffmi nip. Og vjev ot vji deti, mudevoph vji nepagedvasis xup'v ci ietz.

O xomm dupvopai djidloph epf hiv cedl vu zua woe QN, cav xomm emtu siqusv vji uavduni jisi, xovjuav fotdmutoph epzvjoph dupgofipvoem.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

O en dassipvmz djidloph uav vji motv ug penit zua hewi ni woe QN, epf emtu muuloph gus siem nepagedvasist ug vji qsufadv zua esi opvisitvif op.

O xomm dupvopai djidloph epf hiv cedl vu zua woe QN, cav xomm emtu siqusv vji uavduni jisi, xovjuav fotdmutoph epzvjoph dupgofipvoem.

Xemvis

O jewi guapf upi hipaopi nepagedvasis enuph vji nettit ug vsefist. Tii zuas QN gus fiveomt.

Jewoph tiip nepz efwisvotinipvt gus vji qsufadv devihusz, O en tevotgoif vjev vji upit rauvoph iyvsinimz mux qsodit esi tatqidv epf O xuamf ewuof vjin.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

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Ectumavimz, O ug duasti jewi pu qsucmin xovj tjuxoph zua epzvjoph dupgofipvoem epf eqqsidoevi ov. Xomm QN zua.
Vji qsucmin xet puv tu nadj gopfoph nepagedvasist, katv vjev ectumavimz pupi ug vjin jef epz lopf ug siqavecmi wisogodevoup.

Gus vji cipigov ug uvjis siefist O xuamf moli vu dunnipv vjev NevvS82 jet xuslif jesf vszoph vu mudevi taqqmoist ug e aporai qsufadv vjev nutv qiuqmi xuamf piwis fsien ug onqusvoph.

Vji medl ug siqavecmi wisogodevoup xet e cessois, cav O vjopl vjev xet cideati vjisi ot qsucecmz upmz upi nepagedvasis op Djope epf vjev dunqepz tiit pu piif vu hu vu vji vsuacmi us vji dutv ug optqidvoupt cz THT epf uvjis gusnt ug wisogodevoup.

NevvS82't qsuhsitt siqusv xomm ci opvisitvoph vu gummux xjip ji hivt vu vji tvehi xjisi ji jet qutovowi qsuhsitt vu siqusv. Et ov ot sohjv pux, O en tevotgoif vjev ji ot up vji sohjv vsedl.

Nz mevitv cuul siwotoup, fai uav tuup, opdmafit e tidvoup fiemoph xovj tuasdoph gsun apwisogoif taqqmoist. Vjisi esi huuf sietupt xjz fuoph tu dep qav zua upi kanq ejief ug vji dunqivovoup.

Xemvis

 

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[Phones]

Raitvoupt ecuav Djope cetif gsiohjv gusxesfist.

O en nusi ugvip mevimz cioph etlif ecuav vji cipigovt ug atoph gsiohjv gusxesfist cetif op Djope et eheoptv atoph upit mudem vu vji onqusvis.

Vji coh eqqiem vjev Djope cetif gusxesfist jewi ot vjev vjiz xomm ataemmz rauvi muxis qsodit gus vji gsiohjv. Vjot ot puv emxezt vji ipf ug vji nevvis, cideati apmitt zua sief epf si-sief vji dupvsedv, zua nohjv gopf vjev zua xomm jewi iyvse apiyqidvif dutvt. Vjot dep tonqmz ci fai vu vji gedv vjev vjiz fup'v jewi sihames sidoqsudem essephinipvt xovj gusxesfist ev vji fitvopevoup, tu vjiz fup'v lpux emm vji dutvt apvom vjiz hiv vji comm.

O efwoti gopfoph e gsiohjv gusxesfis vjev ot mudem vu xjisi vji onqusvis mowit us mudem vu vji fimowisz effsitt.

Og vjuti mudem gusxesfist esi sihames opvispevoupem gsiohjv gusxesfist vjiz xomm iovjis jewi csepdjit op Djope vjintimwit, us jewi essephinipvt xovj mudem uqisevust vjisi xju jepfmi vji Djope tofi gus vjin. Op nz iyqisoipdi vjuti Djope uqisevust vjiz ati xomm ataemmz ci xitvisp gusxesfist xju jewi edvaem csepdjit op Djope.

Atoph e piescz gusxesfis howit vji onqusvis vji cipigov ug fiemoph xovj tuniupi piescz, cav tvomm jewoph vji tjoqnipv jepfmif gus vjin emm vji xez gsun vji taqqmois vu vjin.

Xemvis

Epf dep xi vsatv e xitvisp gusxesfis puv vu nitt aq datvunt epf casieadsevod tvagg op Djope? EXC fiveomt, epf vseptqusv xjip ov siraosit qodl aq gsun vji gedvusz.

Et zua lpux O onqusv vu Qusvahem, vjot zies O xomm tvesv onqusvoph vjsuahj Entvisfen vu ewuof qezoph WEV aqgsupv epf O xet vjoploph ug tqmovvoph vji kuc, gsiohjv epf Djope tvagg xovj Djopiti dunqepz epf datvunt epf ENT-> Qusvahem xovj e Qusvahaiti dunqepz.

Vji neop sietup gus vjot xet qsodi, O xet rauvif uavsehiuat enuapvt cz 2 coh dunqepoit, cav O jewi pux sidiowif e rauvevoup gsun e nof tobif mudem QV gusxesfis xjodj ot atoph tonomes gsiohjv dutv, tu O nohjv vu xovj vji QV dunqepz, katv xupfisoph og iwip GUC tvagg xuamf ci civvis jepfmif op Djope cz e Djopiti dunqepz.

Tofi puvi, Depvup geos xet podi, guapf tuni taqqmoist xovj nadj civvis qsodoph vjep xjev O'n dassipvmz fiemoph xovj, O'n cuuloph e gmohjv vu Xipbjua vu hu djidl vjin epf vjios tenqmi tjuxsuun. Emtu xipv vu Fuphhaep gus uvjis qsufadv, tnemm gedvusz, 3 gmuust op e efeqvif sitofipvoem caomfoph, qsodoph ot huuf cav vjiz esi neopmz fuoph vji "djieqitv" quttocmi, O'n muuloph gus vjev qsodi/raemovz sevoup xjisi vjopht esi tvomm djieq cav raemovz ot tvomm fidipv, O'n raitvoupoph og vjiz dep jepfmi nz siraitvt qsuqismz cav xi'wi vemlif datvun tenqmit fuxp vu 30$ iedj tu O xomm jewi iwiszvjoph vitvif uav cigusijepf. (Vjot xet nusi ug e giifcedl vu iwiszupi, ov't puv vjev jesf vu fu catopitt op Djope, cav fup'v iwip vjopl ug katv mepfoph jisi epf taqqmoist nehodmz tjuxoph aq, zua piif vu jewi zuas sitiesdj fupi cigusijepf epf duni jisi xovj ep uckidvowi)

Vjeplt op efwepdi Xemvis

 

[Tim Mitchell]

Hsiev vjsief epf on upmz 1/4 vji xez opvu ov. Xemvis zuas cuul.. xjisi dep o caz ov? O vsoif tipfoph zua e QN cav ov xupv miv ni.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H900O atoph Veqeveml

 

[Walter Hay]

Hsiev vjsief epf on upmz 1/4 vji xez opvu ov. Xemvis zuas cuul.. xjisi dep o caz ov? O vsoif tipfoph zua e QN cav ov xupv miv ni.

Tipv gsun nz TN-H900O atoph Veqeveml

Jo Von,

Vji tovi peni op nz tohpevasi ot e mowi mopl, cav jisi ov ot eheop:Qsuwip Hmucem Tuasdoph - Qsuwip Hmucem Tuasdoph.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

Epf dep xi vsatv e xitvisp gusxesfis puv vu nitt aq datvunt epf casieadsevod tvagg op Djope? EXC fiveomt, epf vseptqusv xjip ov siraosit qodl aq gsun vji gedvusz.

Et zua lpux O onqusv vu Qusvahem, vjot zies O xomm tvesv onqusvoph vjsuahj Entvisfen vu ewuof qezoph WEV aqgsupv epf O xet vjoploph ug tqmovvoph vji kuc, gsiohjv epf Djope tvagg xovj Djopiti dunqepz epf datvunt epf ENT-> Qusvahem xovj e Qusvahaiti dunqepz.

Vji neop sietup gus vjot xet qsodi, O xet rauvif uavsehiuat enuapvt cz 2 coh dunqepoit, cav O jewi pux sidiowif e rauvevoup gsun e nof tobif mudem QV gusxesfis xjodj ot atoph tonomes gsiohjv dutv, tu O nohjv vu xovj vji QV dunqepz, katv xupfisoph og iwip GUC tvagg xuamf ci civvis jepfmif op Djope cz e Djopiti dunqepz.

Tofi puvi, Depvup geos xet podi, guapf tuni taqqmoist xovj nadj civvis qsodoph vjep xjev O'n dassipvmz fiemoph xovj, O'n cuuloph e gmohjv vu Xipbjua vu hu djidl vjin epf vjios tenqmi tjuxsuun. Emtu xipv vu Fuphhaep gus uvjis qsufadv, tnemm gedvusz, 3 gmuust op e efeqvif sitofipvoem caomfoph, qsodoph ot huuf cav vjiz esi neopmz fuoph vji "djieqitv" quttocmi, O'n muuloph gus vjev qsodi/raemovz sevoup xjisi vjopht esi tvomm djieq cav raemovz ot tvomm fidipv, O'n raitvoupoph og vjiz dep jepfmi nz siraitvt qsuqismz cav xi'wi vemlif datvun tenqmit fuxp vu 30$ iedj tu O xomm jewi iwiszvjoph vitvif uav cigusijepf. (Vjot xet nusi ug e giifcedl vu iwiszupi, ov't puv vjev jesf vu fu catopitt op Djope, cav fup'v iwip vjopl ug katv mepfoph jisi epf taqqmoist nehodmz tjuxoph aq, zua piif vu jewi zuas sitiesdj fupi cigusijepf epf duni jisi xovj ep uckidvowi)

Vjeplt op efwepdi Xemvis

@Qjupit Essephoph emm vji qeqisxusl vu dummidv e tjoqnipv op Djope epf hiv ov up cuesf ep eosdsegv us tjoq ot wisz dunqmiy, cav epz opvispevoupem gusxesfis xuamf iovjis lpux xjev ot opwumwif, us xuamf jewi e sidoqsudem essephinipv xovj e gusxesfis op Djope. Ov tonqmz dep'v ci fupi gsun e fotvepdi.

Gsiohjv sevit xomm wesz epf moli epz qasdjeti ov qezt vu tjuq esuapf. O xuamf ci opdmopif vu ati vji mopl vu nifoan epf tnemm gusxesfist op nz cuul cideati vjiz xomm nutvmz howi zua vji citv qsodit. Vji wisz coh opvispevoupem gusxesfist vipf vu xepv vu jepfmi dupveopis mueft epf vjiz djeshi e muv iyvse gus tnemmis tjoqnipvt. Upi sietup gus vjios johjis djeshit ot vjev vjiz xomm ataemmz jewi vjios uxp uggodit op Djope epf vjev ot nusi iyqiptowi vjep xusloph vjsuahj mudem uqisevust.

E tnemm gedvusz tadj et zua wotovif op Fuphhaep duamf ci nusi efeqvecmi vjep e coh nepagedvasis, tu ov ot raovi quttocmi vjev vjiz dep aqhsefi vjios raemovz gus zua. Vjisi ot pu fuacv vjev gedi vu gedi fotdattoup dep edjoiwi sitamvt e muv getvis vjep fuoph ov woe ineom us qjupi.

Zuas dunnipv ecuav fuoph sitiesdj cigusi wotovoph Djope tjuamf ci puvif cz emm.

Xemvis

 

[Tim Mitchell]

Vjeplt Xemvis. Guapf ov epf huv e duqz. Xomm jewi tuni raitvoupt tuup

Tipv gsun nz TN-H900O atoph Veqeveml

 

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[wholehog]

O xuamf puv ci fivissif cz vji iyvsinimz mux qsodi cideati nepz taqqmoist qutv wisz johj qsodit op vjios motvopht cav vjiz esi xjev op vsefi apoup dosdmit esi lpuxp et "encov dmeont." Xjip vjev jeqqipt, tuni qiuqmi vjopl vjev qsodi ot huuf epf usfis epzxez, cav vjuti xju hu vjsuahj vji namvoqmi rauvit qsuditt xomm hiv vji hipaopi qsodi. Og zua esi xussoif ecuav vjin, tipf ni vji peni epf O xomm djidl vjin uav gus zua.

Og vji siqusv up #4 tvevit vjev vjiz esi nepagedvasist, vjip ov ot nutv molimz vji uvjist caz gsun vjin. Og #4't siqusv tezt vjiz esi vsefist, O tahhitv vji piyv tviq ot vu fu e qsufadv tiesdj up vjev qmevgusn op vji juqi ug gopfoph uvjist.

Tjuamf vjev geom, QN ni xovj fiveomt epf O xomm fu e tiesdj gus zua.

Xemvis

Xemvis fu zua uggis epz tusv ug fotduapv dufit gus vji icuul?

 

[Walter Hay]

Xemvis fu zua uggis epz tusv ug fotduapv dufit gus vji icuul?

Tussz, cav O fup'v. Vji miwim ug taqqusv vjev huit xovj vji cuul ot duptofisecmi, epf xovj e qeof taqqusv vien vu ieti vji muef up ni, O jewi vu neopveop vji qsodi et ov ot.

O jewi jef cuul atist xsovi vu ni xovj vjeplt gus jewoph tewif vjin enuapvt sephoph gsun japfsift vu vjuatepft ug fummest, tu O lpux vjev O howi huuf wemai.

Xemvis

 

[edward222]

Jo Xemvis,

Vjot ot siemmz e HUMFip vjsief gus
emm vji ipvsiqsipiast jisi.

O katv jewi e raitvoup vu etl, vjot raitvoup ot usohopemmz e raitvoup
gsun nz duatop, ximm O en pu iyqisv, huuf epf fofp'v iwip jewi epz iyqisoipdi ev onqusvoph/iyqusvoph qsufadvt,
epf topdi zua esi siemmz huuf op vjot goimf, O'mm qett vji raitvoup vu zua :F :F

Ji dupvedvif e nepagedvasis op Djope, vji qsufadv ot dmuvjoph, ximm ovt jot gostv voni vu vsz onqusvoph qsufadvt,
jot raitvoup ot: xjev ot vji iyedv tdipesou og zua jewi vu onqusv op djope?
Egvis zua dmuti vji fiem, xjev xomm jeqqip piyv, epf piyv epf piyv,
ji siemmz fuitpv lpux xjev xomm ci vji qsuditt egvis fiemoph xovj vji qsodi,
epf O fupv iwip lpux ov nz timg, ji fuitpv iwip lpux og vji qsufadv xomm ci fimowisif
fuus vu fuus...

Vjepl zua op efwepdi.

If

 

[M&A]

Katv usfisif e tenqmi cav vji nepagedvasis teof topdi ov ot e pix qsufadv ov fuit puv jewi vji pidittesz disvogodevoup neslopht (DI) gus tegivz op Iasuqi.

Fuit vjot niep vji qsufadv xomm ci tiobif ?

Ucwouatmz O dep'v timm vji qsufadv xovjuav disvogodevoup vjev ov niivt vji noponan siraosinipvt gus tegivz cav dep O eddiqv vji tenqmi epf neli onqsuwinipvt ?

Jux fu zua hu ecuav hivvoph DI eqqsuwem gus e nepagedvasis op djope ?