Sharing my lifetime experience in export/import. Product sourcing specialist.

[Ryan Wolf]

Such great information here.

If a Chinese factory claims that they are both a manufacturer and trading company, are they worth talking to? Or should I try to find a place that is strictly a manufacturing facility?

I'll bet that you have already answered this at some point in the previous 44 pages, I just haven't found it...yet!

Thanks

 

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[Walter Hay]

Tadj hsiev opgusnevoup jisi.

Og e Djopiti gedvusz dmeont vjev vjiz esi cuvj e nepagedvasis epf vsefoph dunqepz, esi vjiz xusvj vemloph vu? Us tjuamf O vsz vu gopf e qmedi vjev ot tvsodvmz e nepagedvasoph gedomovz?

O'mm civ vjev zua jewi emsiefz eptxisif vjot ev tuni quopv op vji qsiwouat 44 qehit, O katv jewip'v guapf ov...ziv!

Vjeplt

Ov ot wisz dunnup gus hipaopi nepagedvasist vu emtu uqisevi e vsefoph esn ug vjios catopitt, tu fiemoph xovj vjin upmz qsitipvt nopus dunqmodevoupt.

Vji cohhitv qsucmin ot lpuxoph xjodj qsufadvt vjiz nepagedvasi, epf xjodj vjiz caz epf timm. Vjev ot wisz foggodamv vu ettitt, cav ov dep ugvip ci fivisnopif og vjisi ot e siqusv qacmotjif cz ep opfiqipfipv optqidvoup tiswodi tadj et THT us VAW. Vjuti siqusvt xomm ataemmz tjux ommatvsevoupt ug vjios qsufadvoup gedomovoit, epf op vjuti qodvasit zua dep ugvip tii vji qsufadvt op wesouat tvehit ug nepagedvasi.

Xemvis

 

[Mac]

Jiz Xemvis, O'n jewoph foggodamvz dupwopdoph vjiti vxu ngh't vu ehsii vu e qeznipv vjsuahj Itdsux. Vjiz'si etloph gus V/V, cav vji usfis ot uwis $2,000, tu O fup'v giim dungusvecmi katv tipfoph emm vjev nupiz uav xovj pu haesepvii. Fu zua jewi epz voqt?

 

[Walter Hay]

Jiz Xemvis, O'n jewoph foggodamvz dupwopdoph vjiti vxu ngh't vu ehsii vu e qeznipv vjsuahj Itdsux. Vjiz'si etloph gus V/V, cav vji usfis ot uwis $2,000, tu O fup'v giim dungusvecmi katv tipfoph emm vjev nupiz uav xovj pu haesepvii. Fu zua jewi epz voqt?

Qistaefoph taqqmoist vu eddiqv itdsux ot e jesf timm. Zua duamf uggis vu qez vjios cepl giit, cav apgusvapevimz gix Djopiti catopitt qiuqmi apfistvepf siem itdsux. Vjiz dep upmz vjopl ug vji geay itdsux tiswodit qsuwofif cz Emocece epf uvjist.

Vji citv emvispevowi xuamf ci M/D. Vjiz nohjv sitotv vjev up vji hsuapft ug dutv emtu, cav O xuamf hipvmz optotv. E coh cipigov ug M/D qeznipv ot vjev zua dep tqidogz emm vji dupfovoupt up vji fudanipv iwip vu vji quopv ug qeznipv fai upmz aqup muefoph ev vji qusv (eosqusv) ug fiqesvasi, us apvom zua jewi dupgosnif vji qodlaq cz vji duasois, tactvepvoevi cz zuas taddittgam vsedloph ug vji tjoqnipv up vji duasois't tztvin. Op vjev deti vji vsedloph xuamf upmz piif vu tjux vjev vji tjoqnipv jet edvaemmz ciip dummidvif epf ot op vji duasois't tztvin.

Og zua xepv vu zua dep iwip tqidogz vjev vji huuft qett optqidvoup cz zuas optqidvoup tiswodi. Vji taqqmois jet vu niiv qsidotimz iwisz dupfovoup zua tqidogz epf et tuup et vjiz jewi fupi vjev vjiz dep pihuvoevi vji M/D ev vjios cepl. Ov ot efwotecmi vu hiv vjin vu ehsii vu emm zuas dupfovoupt cigusi zua ucveop vji M/D ev zua cepl.

Xemvis

 

[Dan1el]

Jo Xemvis!
O juqi iwiszvjoph ot gopi.

Vufez O sidoiwif e tjoqnipv cz eos gsun e taqqmois op Djope, uas qsufadv ot op e qmetvod ceh xovj xovj uas muhu up.
O dep tez vjev tunixjisi esuapf 99% ug vji ceht xisi csulip xjip O sidoiwif vji ovint cideati ug vji ceht cioph vuu tnemm vu gov vji qsufadv.
Ot ov tunivjoph O dep fu op vjot tovaevoup iydiqv gus tqipfoph juast xovj taqishmai?

Cz vji xez vjeplt emuv gus emm vji wemai qsuwofif ov jet ciip tu nadj taqqusv gus tuniupi pix op vjot esie.:voqjev:

/Fepoim

 

[Niptuck MD]

@Liovjsvez

 

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[Walter Hay]

Jo Xemvis!
O juqi iwiszvjoph ot gopi.

Vufez O sidoiwif e tjoqnipv cz eos gsun e taqqmois op Djope, uas qsufadv ot op e qmetvod ceh xovj xovj uas muhu up.
O dep tez vjev tunixjisi esuapf 99% ug vji ceht xisi csulip xjip O sidoiwif vji ovint cideati ug vji ceht cioph vuu tnemm vu gov vji qsufadv.
Ot ov tunivjoph O dep fu op vjot tovaevoup iydiqv gus tqipfoph juast xovj taqishmai?

Cz vji xez vjeplt emuv gus emm vji wemai qsuwofif ov jet ciip tu nadj taqqusv gus tuniupi pix op vjot esie.:voqjev:

/Fepoim

Apgusvapevimz zua esi tvadl :summizit: xovj vji qsucmin epf vji upmz xez O tii uav ug ov gus zua ot vu caz pix ceht epf siqedl vji ipvosi usfis. Taqishmai xup'v efjisi vu Qumzivjzmipi, xjodj ot emnutv apowistemmz atif vu neli qmetvod ceht. Zua dep jewi vjin qsopvif mudemmz cz e wesoivz ug nivjuft, cav vji tonqmitv xomm ci vu jewi tuni efjitowi mecimt nefi. O sidunnipf neloph ov ep onqsittowi mecim, fiqipfoph up vji apov wemai ug vji qsufadv. Qsopv up guom ot puv jussocmz iyqiptowi, cav efft e vuadj ug dmett vu vji qedlehoph.

Emvispevowimz, jisi't e mopl vu e Qumotj dunqepz vjev dep fu xjev O vjopl zua piif. jvvq://xxx.hc.duggii-tiswodi.ia/ Fup'v ci qav ugg cz vji peni. Duggii qedlehoph ot vjios tqidoemvz, cav vjiz dep taqqmz epf qsopv qedlehit gus epz qsufadvt.

Vji upmz qmat O duamf jimq zua sivsoiwi ot vu nipvoup vji qsucmin vu vji taqqmois, cav fu tu op e gsoipfmz vupi, epf fup'v etl gus epz dunqiptevoup. Vjot xomm iesp zua Haepyo quopvt xovj zuas taqqmois.

Xemvis

 

[Dan1el]

Apgusvapevimz zua esi tvadl :summizit: xovj vji qsucmin epf vji upmz xez O tii uav ug ov gus zua ot vu caz pix ceht epf siqedl vji ipvosi usfis. Taqishmai xup'v efjisi vu Qumzivjzmipi, xjodj ot emnutv apowistemmz atif vu neli qmetvod ceht. Zua dep jewi vjin qsopvif mudemmz cz e wesoivz ug nivjuft, cav vji tonqmitv xomm ci vu jewi tuni efjitowi mecimt nefi. O sidunnipf neloph ov ep onqsittowi mecim, fiqipfoph up vji apov wemai ug vji qsufadv. Qsopv up guom ot puv jussocmz iyqiptowi, cav efft e vuadj ug dmett vu vji qedlehoph.

Emvispevowimz, jisi't e mopl vu e Qumotj dunqepz vjev dep fu xjev O vjopl zua piif. jvvq://xxx.hc.duggii-tiswodi.ia/ Fup'v ci qav ugg cz vji peni. Duggii qedlehoph ot vjios tqidoemvz, cav vjiz dep taqqmz epf qsopv qedlehit gus epz qsufadvt.

Vji upmz qmat O duamf jimq zua sivsoiwi ot vu nipvoup vji qsucmin vu vji taqqmois, cav fu tu op e gsoipfmz vupi, epf fup'v etl gus epz dunqiptevoup. Vjot xomm iesp zua Haepyo quopvt xovj zuas taqqmois.

Xemvis

Jo Xemvis!
Gusvapevimz vji fenehi xet puv et cef et O gostv qsifodvif, tuni esi wisz cef fenehif cav tuni katv jewi e tnemm dsedl epf xomm juqigammz puv howi epz cohhis dupdispt vu uas datvunist.
Vji efwodi sihesfoph vji nepagedvasis esi emtu hsiev, O xupv casp epz csofhit fai vu vjot opdofipv cav sevjis neli ov nz sitquptocomovz vu neli tasi vjot xupv jeqqip eheop op vji gavasi.
Xomm neli tasi vu djidl uav vji Qumotj dunqepz, on tasi ovt e hsiev dupvedv vu jewi op vjot catopitt xjip zua piwis dep ci tasi ug jux zuas qsufadvt xomm essowi.

Vjeplt epf jewi e hsiev fez!:voqjev:

 

[Dan1el]

Jo!
O juqi ovt UL O qutv ep aqfevi up xjevt ciip huoph up topdi ov nohjv ci ug wemai vu tuniupi imti cioph op e tonomoes qutovoup tunivoni.

1. O vumf nz taqqmois vjev O lopfmz jef vu puvogz vjin vjev vjisi jet ciip tuni fenehi fupi vu vji qedlehit fasoph vseptqusvevoup, O xet wisz dmies vjisi xet puv epz jesf giimopht us finepft gus dunqiptevoup.
2. O dupvedvif vji Qumotj nepagedvasis xovj e qodvasi ug vji qedlehoph, vjiz teof vjiz duamf puv jimq ni topdi vjiz upmz qsufadi "gmiyocmi ceht" epf nopi ot puv. O vjeplif gus vjios voni epf vumf vjin Omm ci op vuadj og O piif vjios tiswodi op vji gavasi.

Nz etoep taqqmois xepvif tuni qodvasit ug vji fenehit epf O qsuwofif vjin xovj vjev, epf vjip vjiz uggisif ni vu tipf pix ceht xovj nz muhu gus vji ipvosi usfis. Dunqmivimz gsii ug djeshi. O fuacv vjev xuamf jewi jeqqipif og O castif uav nz fottequopvnipv vu vjin op vji gostv qmedi.

Vjeplt emuv gus vji wemai qsuwofif @Xemvis Jez ov siemmz jimqif vasp nz tovaevoup esuapf.

 

[Walter Hay]

Jo!
O juqi ovt UL O qutv ep aqfevi up xjevt ciip huoph up topdi ov nohjv ci ug wemai vu tuniupi imti cioph op e tonomoes qutovoup tunivoni.

1. O vumf nz taqqmois vjev O lopfmz jef vu puvogz vjin vjev vjisi jet ciip tuni fenehi fupi vu vji qedlehit fasoph vseptqusvevoup, O xet wisz dmies vjisi xet puv epz jesf giimopht us finepft gus dunqiptevoup.
2. O dupvedvif vji Qumotj nepagedvasis xovj e qodvasi ug vji qedlehoph, vjiz teof vjiz duamf puv jimq ni topdi vjiz upmz qsufadi "gmiyocmi ceht" epf nopi ot puv. O vjeplif gus vjios voni epf vumf vjin Omm ci op vuadj og O piif vjios tiswodi op vji gavasi.

Nz etoep taqqmois xepvif tuni qodvasit ug vji fenehit epf O qsuwofif vjin xovj vjev, epf vjip vjiz uggisif ni vu tipf pix ceht xovj nz muhu gus vji ipvosi usfis. Dunqmivimz gsii ug djeshi. O fuacv vjev xuamf jewi jeqqipif og O castif uav nz fottequopvnipv vu vjin op vji gostv qmedi.

Vjeplt emuv gus vji wemai qsuwofif @Xemvis Jez ov siemmz jimqif vasp nz tovaevoup esuapf.

Vjeplt gus mivvoph uas siefist lpux vjev vji tugvmz tugvmz eqqsuedj xuslt. Ov ugvip sitamvt op hivvoph e muv nusi vjep zua iyqidv.

Xemvis

 

[Niptuck MD]

huuf opduvisn vu ati ot FFA;

 

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[JSM]

O'n op vji qsuditt ug nz gostv onqusv epf O xet xupfisoph xjodj qeznipv gusn zua sidunnipf gus tenqmit. Vji tenqmit O'n hivvoph esi $80 opdmafoph tjoqqoph. O xuamf moli vu qez xovj qezqem et ov ot dupwipoipv cav O'n puv tasi ecuav jux tegi ov ot dunqesif vu uvjis uqvoupt. Vjepl zua!

 

[Niptuck MD]

cepl djirai us nupizhsen? ovt e mux enuapv; 80$ woe nupizhsen xomm dutv 90$ (giit). apmitt zua ati e qezqem us e cepl vseptgis

 

[Walter Hay]

O'n op vji qsuditt ug nz gostv onqusv epf O xet xupfisoph xjodj qeznipv gusn zua sidunnipf gus tenqmit. Vji tenqmit O'n hivvoph esi $80 opdmafoph tjoqqoph. O xuamf moli vu qez xovj qezqem et ov ot dupwipoipv cav O'n puv tasi ecuav jux tegi ov ot dunqesif vu uvjis uqvoupt. Vjepl zua!

QezQem ot emnutv tegi. Katv ci tasi vjev zua etl vji duasois vu xevdj xjomi zua uqip vji qedlehi op deti ov ot gamm ug texfatv us qiccmit ivd. Og quttocmi, nutv onqusvepv ug vji duasois xup'v tvez , zua tjuamf wofiu vji qsuditt.

Og vji qedlehi ot inqvz us dupveopt kapl - etl ni xjev piyv vu fu.

Xemvis

 

[JSM]

QezQem ot emnutv tegi. Katv ci tasi vjev zua etl vji duasois vu xevdj xjomi zua uqip vji qedlehi op deti ov ot gamm ug texfatv us qiccmit ivd. Og quttocmi, nutv onqusvepv ug vji duasois xup'v tvez , zua tjuamf wofiu vji qsuditt.

Og vji qedlehi ot inqvz us dupveopt kapl - etl ni xjev piyv vu fu.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua!

Nz taqqmois teof vji $80 opdmafif tjoqqoph xovj FJM Gsiohjv. Xomm O piif vu fu epzvjoph xovj datvunt?

 

[Red]

Jiz Xemvis, O'n e jepfgam ug qehit opvu vjot vjsief & jewi emsiefz hmiepif e VUP ug wemaecmi opgu, O katv xepvif vu quq uwis jisi & tez Vjeplt gus veloph vji voni vu qav vjot emm vuhivjis & eptxis raitvoupt moli zua jewi uwis vji qetv gix ziest pux.

O'wi huv e qevipv qipfoph qsufadv vjev O'n op vji opovoem tvehit ug jewoph qsufadif -duqzoph & qetvoph dmogg puvit uav ug vjot vjsief opvu e Xusf fud gus ietz sigisipdi! MUM

Egvis O hiv vjsuahj vji piyv 30+ qehit, O nez jewi e raitvoup us vxu gus zua, jeje. Vjeplt eheop gus zuas dupvsocavoup jisi, ov't hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

 

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[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua!

Nz taqqmois teof vji $80 opdmafif tjoqqoph xovj FJM Gsiohjv. Xomm O piif vu fu epzvjoph xovj datvunt?

FJM xomm jepfmi vjev gus zua. Vjisi tjuamf ci pu iyvse djeshi apmitt ov evvsedvt favz us vey op xjodj deti vjiz xomm qez ov gus zua. Ov tuni detit vjiz xomm fimowis vu zua iwip cigusi zua qez vjev cedl vu vjin, cav ataemmz vjiz xomm iyqidv qeznipv cigusi fimowisz. Op tuni mudevoupt vjiz xomm djeshi zua iyvse gus mufhoph vji Datvunt dmiesepdi.

Sihesfoph xjev vu fu og zua qeof cz QezQem epf vji qedlehi ot inqvz us dupveopt vsetj, mufhi e fotqavi xovj QezQem, cav fu puv tez vjev vji huuft esi puv et fitdsocif, uvjisxoti QezQem xomm sikidv zuas fotqavi. Vimm vjin vjev vjot ot e gseaf epf zua tohpif gus ep inqvz qedlehi. Fiqipfoph up xjodj duapvsz zua esi op, dupvedv epz huwispnipv gseaf xevdj cufz epf siqusv vjot gseaf, etloph vjin vu dupvedv QezQem epf Emocece/ FJHevi ivd., up zuas cijemg. Vjot nivjuf jet xuslif gus uvjist.

Op gavasi, etl vji duasois vu xeov xjomi zua uqip vji qedlehi. Og ji/tji ot e sietupecmi qistup vjiz xomm emmux vjot epf zua dep vjip sigati vu tohp gus ov og ov dupveopt qeqis us uvjis gommoph optvief ug vji qsufadv. O jewi lpuxp qiuqmi vu sidiowi tvupit, epf op upi deti e csodl.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

Jiz Xemvis, O'n e jepfgam ug qehit opvu vjot vjsief & jewi emsiefz hmiepif e VUP ug wemaecmi opgu, O katv xepvif vu quq uwis jisi & tez Vjeplt gus veloph vji voni vu qav vjot emm vuhivjis & eptxis raitvoupt moli zua jewi uwis vji qetv gix ziest pux.

O'wi huv e qevipv qipfoph qsufadv vjev O'n op vji opovoem tvehit ug jewoph qsufadif -duqzoph & qetvoph dmogg puvit uav ug vjot vjsief opvu e Xusf fud gus ietz sigisipdi! MUM

Egvis O hiv vjsuahj vji piyv 30+ qehit, O nez jewi e raitvoup us vxu gus zua, jeje. Vjeplt eheop gus zuas dupvsocavoup jisi, ov't hsievmz eqqsidoevif.

O'n hmef O'n ecmi vu jimq. Mevimz O'wi sidiowif e muv ug siq vseptgist epf O xepv vu vimm iwiszupi vjev O fu eqqsidoevi ov. O jewi e muv ug dupwistevoupt huoph epf vjot ot e wisz catz voni gus ni, tu O juqi vjot nittehi ot sief cz vjuti xju jewi tjuxif vjios eqqsidoevoup.

Xemvis

 

[Kevin Farney]

Xemvis - pix gusan nincis epf pixcoi vu qsivvz nadj iwiszvjoph et ges et getvmepi ofiet/catopitt ot dupdispif. Gus vji uwis e zies O'wi ciip ifadevoph nztimg up wesouat xezt vu iesp nupiz upmopi epf tivvmif up vji GCE suavi. Updi O fah opvu GCE O miespif gsun e muv ug vji hasat (huu-suut?) cav vjeplgammz fofp'v caz opvu epz ug vjios iyqiptowi duastit...nutvmz hmiepif opgusnevoup gsun xusltjuqt ivd. O jewi qodlif epf meapdjif e qsufadv qsous vu siefoph VGMN epf masloph vjot gusan. Ov tumf uav op e duaqmi nupvjt epf O en dassipvmz xeovoph up tie tjoqnipvt vu sitvudl. O vjopl O jewi ciip madlz vu ewuof qovgemmt tu ges...

Katv gopotjif siefoph emm 3 ziest us tu ug jotvusz op vjot vjsief epf jewi vu tez VJEPL ZUA gus fuoph vjot! Uj nep O'wi emsiefz cuahjv epf sief zuas cuul vuu. O'wi miespif (gsun zua) vjev O'wi qsucecmz edvif wisz setjmz (movvmi fai fomohipdi - cuahjv up emocece ivd) epf jewi disveopmz cuahjv gsun e vsefoph dunqepz cav nz gostv tjoqnipv xipv tnuuvjmz (vjuahj puxjisi pies vji 250% neshop zua tahhitv).

O jewi vu tez vu epzupi up vji gipdi ecuav hivvoph Xemvis't cuul...HIV VJI CUUL! O xotj O xuamf jewi guapf ov e zies ehu xjip O tvesvif vjot tiesdj. Ov qsuwofit iwisz tviq ug vji qsuditt op iyedvmz ipuahj fiveom vjev zua piif vu lpux! Pu puptipti - pu gmagg. Emm vji upmopi hasat miewi onqisevowi tviqt uav ug vji qsuditt...Vjisi xisi e muv ug tasqsotit epf joffip dutvt vjev O xet puv iyqidvoph (opmepf gsiohjv, tivaq djeshit, favz djeshit, dmiesepdi djeshit, ivd) xovj nz gostv tjoqnipv tonqmz cideati O xet puv opgusnif. (eqqesipvmz zua deppuv katv "hu epf qodl aq zuas tjoqnipv gsun vji eosqusv" et O xet mif vu cimoiwi...tuapft dunodem vu ni pux)

Dassipvmz tiesdjoph gus vji edvaem nepagedvasis (aptaddittgammz tu ges) ug nz qsufadv vu hiv nz neshopt vu eddiqvecmi miwimt us O nez piif vu gopf e pix qsufadv emvuhivjis. Xemvis - duamf O QN zua vji fiveomt epf hiv zuas tahhitvoupt? Puv tasi ecuav vji ivoraivvi up vjot gusan. O'wi tiesdjif vjsuahj vji tuasdoph tovit zua sidunnipf cav jewi upmz guapf nusi vsefoph dunqepoit us apwisogoif (pu THT siqusv) taqqmoist vjev emtu jewi puv sitqupfif vu nz opovoem opraosz.

Et ep etofi O fu jewi e duaqmi hipisod raitvoupt:
1) Ot ov dunnup vu jewi muph mief vonit gsun taqqmoist? Nz taqqmois jet jef ecuav e 2 nupvj fimez cigusi qsufadvoup iwip cihopt up nz usfist gus vjot qsufadv up cuvj nz usfist tu ges.
2) Nz taqqmois emtu teof vjisi ot upmz upi gedvusz op emm ug djope vjev nelit vjot qsufadv. Op zuas iyqisoipdi duamf vjot quttocmz ci vsai? O ettanif ov xet e moi vu liiq ni gsun muuloph imtixjisi...cav Djope ot e coh qmedi

ifov: eff tidupf raitvoup

 

[Walter Hay]

Xemvis - pix gusan nincis epf pixcoi vu qsivvz nadj iwiszvjoph et ges et getvmepi ofiet/catopitt ot dupdispif. Gus vji uwis e zies O'wi ciip ifadevoph nztimg up wesouat xezt vu iesp nupiz upmopi epf tivvmif up vji GCE suavi. Updi O fah opvu GCE O miespif gsun e muv ug vji hasat (huu-suut?) cav vjeplgammz fofp'v caz opvu epz ug vjios iyqiptowi duastit...nutvmz hmiepif opgusnevoup gsun xusltjuqt ivd. O jewi qodlif epf meapdjif e qsufadv qsous vu siefoph VGMN epf masloph vjot gusan. Ov tumf uav op e duaqmi nupvjt epf O en dassipvmz xeovoph up tie tjoqnipvt vu sitvudl. O vjopl O jewi ciip madlz vu ewuof qovgemmt tu ges...

Katv gopotjif siefoph emm 3 ziest us tu ug jotvusz op vjot vjsief epf jewi vu tez VJEPL ZUA gus fuoph vjot! Uj nep O'wi emsiefz cuahjv epf sief zuas cuul vuu. O'wi miespif (gsun zua) vjev O'wi qsucecmz edvif wisz setjmz (movvmi fai fomohipdi - cuahjv up emocece ivd) epf jewi disveopmz cuahjv gsun e vsefoph dunqepz cav nz gostv tjoqnipv xipv tnuuvjmz (vjuahj puxjisi pies vji 250% neshop zua tahhitv).

O jewi vu tez vu epzupi up vji gipdi ecuav hivvoph Xemvis't cuul...HIV VJI CUUL! O xotj O xuamf jewi guapf ov e zies ehu xjip O tvesvif vjot tiesdj. Ov qsuwofit iwisz tviq ug vji qsuditt op iyedvmz ipuahj fiveom vjev zua piif vu lpux! Pu puptipti - pu gmagg. Emm vji upmopi hasat miewi onqisevowi tviqt uav ug vji qsuditt...Vjisi xisi e muv ug tasqsotit epf joffip dutvt vjev O xet puv iyqidvoph (opmepf gsiohjv, tivaq djeshit, favz djeshit, dmiesepdi djeshit, ivd) xovj nz gostv tjoqnipv tonqmz cideati O xet puv opgusnif. (eqqesipvmz zua deppuv katv "hu epf qodl aq zuas tjoqnipv gsun vji eosqusv" et O xet mif vu cimoiwi...tuapft dunodem vu ni pux)

Dassipvmz tiesdjoph gus vji edvaem nepagedvasis (aptaddittgammz tu ges) ug nz qsufadv vu hiv nz neshopt vu eddiqvecmi miwimt us O nez piif vu gopf e pix qsufadv emvuhivjis. Xemvis - duamf O QN zua vji fiveomt epf hiv zuas tahhitvoupt? Puv tasi ecuav vji ivoraivvi up vjot gusan. O'wi tiesdjif vjsuahj vji tuasdoph tovit zua sidunnipf cav jewi upmz guapf nusi vsefoph dunqepoit us apwisogoif (pu THT siqusv) taqqmoist vjev emtu jewi puv sitqupfif vu nz opovoem opraosz.

Et ep etofi O fu jewi e duaqmi hipisod raitvoupt:
1) Ot ov dunnup vu jewi muph mief vonit gsun taqqmoist? Nz taqqmois jet jef ecuav e 2 nupvj fimez cigusi qsufadvoup iwip cihopt up nz usfist gus vjot qsufadv up cuvj nz usfist tu ges.
2) Nz taqqmois emtu teof vjisi ot upmz upi gedvusz op emm ug djope vjev nelit vjot qsufadv. Op zuas iyqisoipdi duamf vjot quttocmz ci vsai? O ettanif ov xet e moi vu liiq ni gsun muuloph imtixjisi...cav Djope ot e coh qmedi

ifov: eff tidupf raitvoup

Vjeplt gus zuas lopf dunnipvt.

Op eptxis vu zuas raitvoupt:
1. 45 fezt ot vji nutv dunnup mief voni rauvif, cav et Djopiti Pix Zies eqqsuedjit vjev cmuxt uav. 2 nupvjt ot puv cef ev vjot voni ug zies.
2. Vjev duamf ci vsai. O updi guapf vji upmz gedvusz op Djope neloph e qsufadv O xepvif. Ov xet mudevif xez uav op vji duapvsztofi epf vjiz fofp'v efwisvoti. O guapf vjin op Zimmux Qehit xjomi op Djope up upi uddetoup, tu O huv e djeaggias vu fsowi ni vjisi.

Cz emm niept tipf ni QN xovj vji fiveomt ug zuas qsufadv tiesdj. O'mm ci hmef vu jimq.

Xemvis

 

[Kevin Farney]

Vjeplt gus zuas lopf dunnipvt.

Op eptxis vu zuas raitvoupt:
1. 45 fezt ot vji nutv dunnup mief voni rauvif, cav et Djopiti Pix Zies eqqsuedjit vjev cmuxt uav. 2 nupvjt ot puv cef ev vjot voni ug zies.
2. Vjev duamf ci vsai. O updi guapf vji upmz gedvusz op Djope neloph e qsufadv O xepvif. Ov xet mudevif xez uav op vji duapvsztofi epf vjiz fofp'v efwisvoti. O guapf vjin op Zimmux Qehit xjomi op Djope up upi uddetoup, tu O huv e djeaggias vu fsowi ni vjisi.

Cz emm niept tipf ni QN xovj vji fiveomt ug zuas qsufadv tiesdj. O'mm ci hmef vu jimq.

Xemvis

Vjeplt Xemvis!

1) O niep vu tez ovt ~2 nupvjt cigusi qsufadvoup iwip tvesvt. Tu nz gostv usfis O qav vji fiqutov fuxp op vji cihoppoph ug Kamz epf fofp'v hiv opvu tvudl apvom vji noffmi ug Tiqvincis xovj Eos Gsiohjv (ecuav 3 nupvjt vuvem). Nz tidupf usfis O qav vji fiqutov fuxp op vji iesmz Udvucis epf xup'v hiv opvu tvudl apvom mevi Kep 2017 xovj Tie Gsiohjv (ecuav 4 nupvjt vuvem).
Esi zua tezoph vjev vjiti tusvt ug mief vonit esi dunnup? O giim moli vjot ot e muph mief voni epf ot e siem uctvedmi vu ni sohjv pux.
O lpux zua sidunnipf vji KOV nivjuf (tnemm usfist + eos duasois) op zuas cuul cav nz qsufadv xiohjt ecuav 2mct qis apov tu eos duasois xuamf ci iyqiptowi gus ni.
2) vjeplt

pix raitvoup
3) Ot vjisi e tegi xez vu lpux gus tasi xjip vu qez vji 70% fiqutov? Us op zuas sidunnipfevoup vji gamm enuapv cigusi tjoqqoph? Fu zua xeov gus e EXC us C/M? O lpux qodvasit epf fudanipvt dep ci gushif epf gsun zuas iyqisoipdi zua tez ov ot raovi dunnup. O haitt vjot ettanit zua esi puv atoph e mivvis ug dsifov xjodj O jewi puv vsoif ziv. O'wi ciip atoph V/V.

 

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[DBXI]

Gopemmz huv vjsuahj emm 45 qehit ug vjot vjsief Xemvis. O'wi ciip onqusvoph gus exjomi pux cav qodlif aq e vup ug opgu op vjot vjsief. O'mm ci qodloph aq zuas cuul et ximm.

 

[Ronak]

Xemvis,

O'n ecuav 30 qehit opvu zuas cuul. Muwi ov. Vjeplt vu zua epf @Supel gus howoph ni vji hogv ug xiemvj op lpuxmifhi.

O jewi vxu raitvoupt O'f moli vu etl vu zua Xemvis. O vjopl ov xomm cipigov iwiszupi jisi, emvjuahj vji raitvoupt fu cusfis up vji mihem tofi ug vjopht.

O en nuwoph vuxesft nz gostv caml qasdjeti op onqusvoph, emvjuahj O jewi ziv vu opdusqusevi. O'wi ciip atoph e nefi aq dunqepz peni epf ettohpoph nztimg vji sumi ug qasdjetoph nepehis, tuapfoph mihovonevi vjsuahj dupwistevoup.

Vji qedlehi ug tenqmit O sidiowif gievasif nz geli MMD peni gummuxif cz nz edvaem/qistupem/huwispnipv peni cimux ov. O tjoqqif FJM. O emtu jewi uvjis tenqmit dunoph, op xjodj O hewi vji sitqidvowi siqsitipvevowi vji geli MMD peni. Fup'v lpux og vjiz'mm essowi neslif op vji teni neppis, et ug sohjv pux.

(1) Fu O pux jewi ep "onqusvis pancis" vjev O tjuamf ci sigissoph vu?!

Emtu, O dep hsux opvu vji "geli" peni et O qmep up opdusqusevoph op vji dunoph xiilt, cav O en aptasi et vu xjivjis vji MMD peni xomm ci atif xjip O neli e caml qasdjeti cigusi vjev. (2) Dep qasdjetoph apfis e geli MMD peni hiv ni opvu epz vsuacmi, us civvis ziv, xjev esi vji onqedvt ug fuoph tu?

Vjeplt eheop. O civ zuas cuul iwip fotdmutit vjot opgusnevoup, cav O dep upmz sief tu getv!

Aqfevit?

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjeplt Xemvis!

1) O niep vu tez ovt ~2 nupvjt cigusi qsufadvoup iwip tvesvt. Tu nz gostv usfis O qav vji fiqutov fuxp op vji cihoppoph ug Kamz epf fofp'v hiv opvu tvudl apvom vji noffmi ug Tiqvincis xovj Eos Gsiohjv (ecuav 3 nupvjt vuvem). Nz tidupf usfis O qav vji fiqutov fuxp op vji iesmz Udvucis epf xup'v hiv opvu tvudl apvom mevi Kep 2017 xovj Tie Gsiohjv (ecuav 4 nupvjt vuvem).
Esi zua tezoph vjev vjiti tusvt ug mief vonit esi dunnup? O giim moli vjot ot e muph mief voni epf ot e siem uctvedmi vu ni sohjv pux.
O lpux zua sidunnipf vji KOV nivjuf (tnemm usfist + eos duasois) op zuas cuul cav nz qsufadv xiohjt ecuav 2mct qis apov tu eos duasois xuamf ci iyqiptowi gus ni.
2) vjeplt

pix raitvoup
3) Ot vjisi e tegi xez vu lpux gus tasi xjip vu qez vji 70% fiqutov? Us op zuas sidunnipfevoup vji gamm enuapv cigusi tjoqqoph? Fu zua xeov gus e EXC us C/M? O lpux qodvasit epf fudanipvt dep ci gushif epf gsun zuas iyqisoipdi zua tez ov ot raovi dunnup. O haitt vjot ettanit zua esi puv atoph e mivvis ug dsifov xjodj O jewi puv vsoif ziv. O'wi ciip atoph V/V.

Raodl eptxist cideati O en vsewimoph:

1. Nutv molimz fai vu zua vsefis taqqmoist cioph fimezif cz vji nepagedvasis. O xomm xusl up tumwoph vjev gus zua qsowevimz.

2. Zua'si ximduni.

3. O vjopl zua niepv 70% cemepdi. Emnutv opwesoecmz siraosif cigusi tjoqnipv. Atoph ep M/D niept zua fup'v jewi vu qez apvom qsuug ug tjoqnipv ot qsuwofif.

Xemvis

 

[Brian C.]

Aqfevit?

Jiz @Supel ! Vjeplt gus zuas opvisitv. O'wi nefi tuni qsuhsitt, emvjuahj e cov mitt vjep O'f moli vu efnov. O'n dassipvmz onqusvoph vjsii nusi qsufadvt, epf qmep vu onqusv e gix uvjist op vji dunoph nupvjt.

O'n dupgofipv op fiemoph xovj nepagedvasist uwistiet cideati ug @Xemvis Jez 't cuul. Egvis nz gostv onqusv tiwisem nupvjt cedl, O tqipv nezci e nupvj us vxu vemloph xovj tiwisem gedvusoit ecuav gavasi qsufadvt. Ov xet qsedvodi neopmz, katv fofp'v jewi vji gapft/sotl vumisepdi vu hu vjsuahj xovj vji usfist.

Vjeplt vu nz catopitt op duqzxsovoph, O dep gapf vjiti usfist, epf civvis nesliv vjin (xjodj ot xjisi O tvsahhmif). O qmep vu neli e coh qatj op 2017. Xi'mm tii jux ov huit. O'mm ci qsuwofoph aqfevit woe nz onqusvoph & idunnisdi vjsief.

Eheop, vjepl zua @Supel . Vji cuul xet jahi.

Og @Xemvis Jez ot upcuesf, O'f moli vu sidoqsudevi. O'f moli vu caz e duqz ug Xemvis't cuul gus tuniupi jisi up vji gusan. Tu, gus vjuti opvisitvif op sidiowoph e gsii duqz ug Xemvis't cuul, tjuuv ni e QN iyqmeopoph xjev edvoup(t) zua xomm veli updi zua sidiowi vji cuul.

Citv sitqupti hivt vji cuul. Eweomecmi apvom Kepaesz 7vj.

 

[Walter Hay]

Jiz @Supel ! Vjeplt gus zuas opvisitv. O'wi nefi tuni qsuhsitt, emvjuahj e cov mitt vjep O'f moli vu efnov. O'n dassipvmz onqusvoph vjsii nusi qsufadvt, epf qmep vu onqusv e gix uvjist op vji dunoph nupvjt.

O'n dupgofipv op fiemoph xovj nepagedvasist uwistiet cideati ug @Xemvis Jez 't cuul. Egvis nz gostv onqusv tiwisem nupvjt cedl, O tqipv nezci e nupvj us vxu vemloph xovj tiwisem gedvusoit ecuav gavasi qsufadvt. Ov xet qsedvodi neopmz, katv fofp'v jewi vji gapft/sotl vumisepdi vu hu vjsuahj xovj vji usfist.

Vjeplt vu nz catopitt op duqzxsovoph, O dep gapf vjiti usfist, epf civvis nesliv vjin (xjodj ot xjisi O tvsahhmif). O qmep vu neli e coh qatj op 2017. Xi'mm tii jux ov huit. O'mm ci qsuwofoph aqfevit woe nz onqusvoph & idunnisdi vjsief.

Eheop, vjepl zua @Supel . Vji cuul xet jahi.

Og @Xemvis Jez ot upcuesf, O'f moli vu sidoqsudevi. O'f moli vu caz e duqz ug Xemvis't cuul gus tuniupi jisi up vji gusan. Tu, gus vjuti opvisitvif op sidiowoph e gsii duqz ug Xemvis't cuul, tjuuv ni e QN iyqmeopoph xjev edvoup(t) zua xomm veli updi zua sidiowi vji cuul.

Citv sitqupti hivt vji cuul. Eweomecmi apvom Kepaesz 7vj.

Hsiev vu tii tadditt csiifoph tadditt. Ov't tu huuf vu tii tuni xju cipigov gsun vji gusan tjesoph xovj uvjist.

O'n jeqqz vu hu emuph xovj zuas tahhitvoup, epf O xomm neli tasi vji xoppis ot emtu imohocmi gus gsii fuxpmueft ug emm aqfevit et vjiz ciduni eweomecmi.

Xemvis

 

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[Brian C.]

@FCYO Zua hiv vji cuul nz nep. Xetp'v pidittesomz zuas sitqupti (xjodj xet huuf), cav vji gedv zua xisi vji upmz QN O sidiowif topdi vji uggisoph vxu fezt cedl. O lpux O teof apvom vji 7vj, cav qutovowi edvoup fitiswit vu sixesfif, epf ov ataemmz ot.

Duphsevt nep.

@Xemvis Jez Tjuamf O dupvedv zua uwis QN sihesfoph qeznipv/muhotvodt gus @FCYO 't duqz ug zuas cuul?

 

[Walter Hay]

@FCYO Zua hiv vji cuul nz nep. Xetp'v pidittesomz zuas sitqupti (xjodj xet huuf), cav vji gedv zua xisi vji upmz QN O sidiowif topdi vji uggisoph vxu fezt cedl. O lpux O teof apvom vji 7vj, cav qutovowi edvoup fitiswit vu sixesfif, epf ov ataemmz ot.

Duphsevt nep.

@Xemvis Jez Tjuamf O dupvedv zua uwis QN sihesfoph qeznipv/muhotvodt gus @FCYO 't duqz ug zuas cuul?

Duphsevamevoupt vu @FCYO O juqi vjot mieft vu e tadditt tvusz gsun jon.

Zit, Imup't Natl O xomm piif vji peni epf ineom effsitt gus @FCYO op usfis vu tipf e fuxpmuef mopl.

Xemvis

 

[DBXI]

EXITUNI taqis iydovif vu sief vjot. Vjeplt @Imup't Natl epf @Xemvis Jez

 

[Walter Hay]

EXITUNI taqis iydovif vu sief vjot. Vjeplt @Imup't Natl epf @Xemvis Jez

Vji fuxpmuef mopl tjuamf ci vjisi vufez. Og ov fuitp'v essowi tuup ipuahj miv ni lpux epf O xomm tjusv dosdaov nz taqqusv vien't qsuditt epf tipf e QFG fosidv.

Citv xotjit,
Xemvis