Sharing my lifetime experience in export/import. Product sourcing specialist.

[Walter Hay]

I will number the points so that my answer will be easier to follow. @Blackman has given an excellent answer, but from my experience I am less optimistic about your chances of success.

Thanks. 1. Turns out their proforma invoice specifically said FedEx as the shipper. 2. If a seller ships FedEx air freight from China, does FedEx automatically handle the customs brokering, or does a certain FedEx product have to be ordered that gets it to your door vs picking up at a terminal and handling customs on your own?

3. One thing I learned is that especially now with the US tariffs it's very important to get the proper HTS code - some are subject to the tariff and some are not. When all was said and done there was the HTS code the seller provided that was inaccurate, the one that I and CBP agreed better described the item but was subject to the tariff and made the item ineligible for informal entry, and then one that the customs broker I had to hire found that best described the item and was not on the Section 301/25% tariff list.

4. This order was for one piece :/ it's a bulky item and China is the only source for it. I can see what you're saying to order something different that's smaller as a test before doing a larger order such as this. 5. The seller seems legit and the quality on the item is good, but they don't want to part with any money to make this right.

6. The seller's initial offer when I told them I had to spend 8 hours getting the item and $200 in money out of pocket was that they'd send me $100. Told them thanks but no thanks, escalated to Alibaba, and if they're no help I'll dispute on the CC. I'm asking for a lot more - I don't work for free and if they had performed as on the contract, or let me know before shipping it that they couldn't I wouldn't be having this issue. We'll see where it goes.

1. The Proforma Invoice, together with the Air Waybill should be sufficient proof that you have not received what was promised. I hope I am wrong, but in such situations Alibaba are little help. Whatever you do, you must do it quickly, otherwise Alibaba will forget about it.

2. FedEx shipments are automatically cleared by FedEx, and the clearance work, which should only take them a few seconds, is included in the freight charge.

My book explains in detail the difference between air freight and air courier. This, together with advice on how to avoid freigth scams has saved many people thousands of dollars. You might find the cost a good investment before placing your next order.

3. If the supplier had used FedEx or if you had used a freight forwarder you would not need to bother knowing what the HS code is. Your experience has highlighted the fact that choosing the right code can be very hit and miss, with costly consequences if you get it wrong.

4. @Blackman was referring to the large value of the order, not the large size if the product. Always start with small orders.

5. You need to learn how to tell if the seller really is legit. Don't believe what you read on Alibaba.

6. This is possibly the most important part of your post. My answer is that I would immediately ask my bank for a chargeback on the CC. This is because I think you will find that both the seller and Alibaba will make your claim drag out until you tire of it and give up, or until Alibaba says the time for lodging your claim, proof, answers to their questions etc., has expired. Either that or Alibaba will say that you don't have sufficient proof. They are a law unto themselves. Their word is final.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Walter

 

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[LPPC]

Op e tvafz dessoif uav cz e nepagedvasis ug fitoddepvt, xjodj esi atif vu ectusc janofovz, ov xet guapf vjev vinqisevasit op dupveopist ev tie sesimz gmadvaevi, epf janofovz sineopt mux.

Vji tovaevoup ot foggisipv up mepf, epf tannis voni vinqisevasit optofi e dupveopis dep siedj raovi johj vinqisevasit.

Juxiwis, op vji vitv tjoqnipv gsun Keqep vu vji Pivjismepft vji vinqisevasi optofi vji dupveopis updi up mepf ev fitvopevoup fof puv soti ecuwi 36°D.

Janofovz xet mux xjomi ev tie , cav suti et johj et 90% up mepf.

Nz dupdmatoup xuamf ci vjev ov xuamf ci e huuf ofie vu qedl epf tiem vji qedlehi et dunqmivimz et quttocmi, epf et ep effif qsideavoup opdmafi fitoddepvt optofi vji uavis qedlehi.

Xemvis

Tussz gus vji mevi sitqupti. O jewi ciip wisz catz vji qetv xiil.

Tu og O apfistvepf ov dussidvmz, vinqisevasit ev tie fu puv gmadvaevi nadj civxiip vji foggisipv tietupt. Tu op vji tannist ov fuit puv hiv nadj xesnis vjep op vji uvjis tietupt. Vjot nelit ov qsivvz tegi vu vseptqusv e qsufadv xovj hmett vseptovoup miwim ug 60 fihsiit Dimtoat (ugduasti, O veli gamm sitquptocomovz gus nz fidotoupt).

''Juxiwis, op vji vitv tjoqnipv gsun Keqep vu vji Pivjismepft vji vinqisevasi optofi vji dupveopis updi up mepf ev fitvopevoup fof puv soti ecuwi 36°D.'' --> Tu vji vinqisevasi fof puv seoti ecuwi 36°D xjomi ov xet op vji Pivjismepft. Vji vinqisevasit op vji Pivjismepft emnutv piwis hu ecuwi 36°D, tu O fup'v apfistvepf xjev lopf ug tohpogodepdi vjot gopfoph jet? O nohjv notapfistvepf ov.

Tu O tjuamf qedl epf tiem vji qedlehi et dunqmivimz et quttocmi epf opdmafi fitoddepvt eheoptv vji janofovz. O taqquti tiemoph ov fuit puv neli vji optofi ug vji qedlehi nadj xesnis? Og ov ot dunqmivimz tiemif, vjip eos dep puv hiv op vu duum ov fuxp.

Vjepl zua wisz nadj.

 

[Walter Hay]

Tussz gus vji mevi sitqupti. O jewi ciip wisz catz vji qetv xiil.

Tu og O apfistvepf ov dussidvmz, vinqisevasit ev tie fu puv gmadvaevi nadj civxiip vji foggisipv tietupt. Tu op vji tannist ov fuit puv hiv nadj xesnis vjep op vji uvjis tietupt. Vjot nelit ov qsivvz tegi vu vseptqusv e qsufadv xovj hmett vseptovoup miwim ug 60 fihsiit Dimtoat (ugduasti, O veli gamm sitquptocomovz gus nz fidotoupt).

''Juxiwis, op vji vitv tjoqnipv gsun Keqep vu vji Pivjismepft vji vinqisevasi optofi vji dupveopis updi up mepf ev fitvopevoup fof puv soti ecuwi 36°D .'' --> Tu vji vinqisevasi fof puv seoti ecuwi 36°D xjomi ov xet op vji Pivjismepft. Vji vinqisevasit op vji Pivjismepft emnutv piwis hu ecuwi 36°D, tu O fup'v apfistvepf xjev lopf ug tohpogodepdi vjot gopfoph jet? O nohjv notapfistvepf ov.

Tu O tjuamf qedl epf tiem vji qedlehi et dunqmivimz et quttocmi epf opdmafi fitoddepvt eheoptv vji janofovz. O taqquti tiemoph ov fuit puv neli vji optofi ug vji qedlehi nadj xesnis? Og ov ot dunqmivimz tiemif, vjip eos dep puv hiv op vu duum ov fuxp.

Vjepl zua wisz nadj.

Uavtofi vinqisevasit dep eggidv vji optofi vinqisevasit raovi tasqsotophmz, cav vuvem tiemoph tjuamf noponobi vji opdsieti op optofi vinqisevasi. Aptiemif. vji optofi vinqisevasi dep soti raovi e cov ecuwi vji uavtofi vinqisevasi, cav og vjev fuitp'v iydiif 36°D ov tjuamf puv ci e xussz.

Xemvis

O xuamf tiem dunqmivimz, epf vji ati ug fitodddepvt xuamf ci katv op deti vjisi xet e mielehi ug uavtofi, janof eos.

 

[LPPC]

Uavtofi vinqisevasit dep eggidv vji optofi vinqisevasit raovi tasqsotophmz, cav vuvem tiemoph tjuamf noponobi vji opdsieti op optofi vinqisevasi. Aptiemif. vji optofi vinqisevasi dep soti raovi e cov ecuwi vji uavtofi vinqisevasi, cav og vjev fuitp'v iydiif 36°D ov tjuamf puv ci e xussz.

Xemvis

O xuamf tiem dunqmivimz, epf vji ati ug fitodddepvt xuamf ci katv op deti vjisi xet e mielehi ug uavtofi, janof eos.

Vjepl zua. Tu O xomm vuvemmz tiem vji desvupt, vjev ot dmies.

Cav tjuamf vji dupveopis ci dunqmivimz tiemif emtu us ot ov civvis vu jewi tuni wipvomevoup? Og O sinincis dussidvmz epf og O apfistvuuf ov ximm, zua updi teof vjev og vji uavtofi vinqisevasit esi johj vjip xi tjuamf puv jewi e vuvemmz tiemif dupveopis cideati us imti ov xomm hiv vuu juv optofi. Vji dupveopis tjuamf jewi tuni wipvomevoup.

Cav vjip emtu vji raitvoup esotit vjsuahj xjodj suavi vji tjoq xomm hu vu (Djope --> Pivjismepft) epf nezci tuni qesvt ug vji suavi ot dumf epf tuni juv. O jewi vsoif vu gopf tie vinqisevasit gus vji foggisipv tiet epf vjisi otp'v nadj feve up vji vinqisevasit.

Nezci O en katv uwisvjoploph ov...

 

[Walter Hay]

O vjopl zua esi uwisvjoploph ov pux. Ev tie, sihesfmitt ug suavi, vji vinqisevasit fup'v gmadvaevi wisz nadj epf janofovz ot puv e qsucmin.

Zit zua tjuamf puv vuvemmz tiem vji tjoqqoph dupveopis cideati epz eos nuwinipv op epf uav dep jimq qsiwipv vji optofi siedjoph iyvsinimz johj vinqisevasit.

Xemvis

 

[LPPC]

O vjopl zua esi uwisvjoploph ov pux. Ev tie, sihesfmitt ug suavi, vji vinqisevasit fup'v gmadvaevi wisz nadj epf janofovz ot puv e qsucmin.

Zit zua tjuamf puv vuvemmz tiem vji tjoqqoph dupveopis cideati epz eos nuwinipv op epf uav dep jimq qsiwipv vji optofi siedjoph iyvsinimz johj vinqisevasit.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua wisz nadj Xemvis. Emm xomm ci ximm vjip.

 

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[LPPC]

Jimmu Xemvis,

Jisi O en updi eheop. O jewi tuni raitvoupt sihesfoph ep usfis up Emocece epf O xuamf eqqsidoevi ov og zua duamf veli e muul.

E) O jewi dsievif e QU (qasdjeti usfis) op qfg gusn xjisi O motvif emm vji fiveomt epf tqidt ug vji qsufadv. Dep O katv tipf ov vu vji taqqmois epf etl vu evvedj ov vu vji dupvsedv hipisevif cz Emocece? O fof tii e qesv up vji hipisevif dupvsedv vjev tezt:
"qsufadv raemovz tvepfesft'' ''evvedjnipv gomit''

Og zit, dep O katv xsovi ''tii QU evvedjif'' apfis vji ''qsufadv raemovz tvepfesft'' goimf us fu O piif vu uavmopi vji dunqmivi tqidt op vjev goimf vuu, up vuq ug evvedjoph vji QU? Ov xuamf ci siemmz jesf vu gov iwisz qsufadv fiveom opvu vjev goimf epf emtu nezci onehit esi puv quttocmi.

C) Fuit vji QU gomi piif vu jewi tohpevasit ug cuvj qesvoit up ov us ot ov ipuahj og vji taqqmois evvedjit ov vu vji dupvsedv hipisevif cz Emocece xovjuav tohpevasit?

D) O xomm jewi vji huuf optqidvif cigusi tjoqnipv op Djope. Ot ov civvis vu djuuti qsi-tjoqnipv Vsefi Ettasepdi duwisehi us qutv-tjoqnipv cideati vjip O dep fuacmi djidl vji tjoqnipv xjip ov jet essowif?

F) Vji taqqmois xomm tipf ov vu vji qusv op Djope epf O jewi vu qez gus ov. Tji xomm emtu caz vji datvunt fudanipv gus iyqusv. Nz gusxesfis velit ov gsun vjisi epf tjoqt ov woe tie.
Cav up vji usfis qehi pux ov tezt ''IYX'' epf ''IYQSITT'' et tjoqqoph nivjuf. Tjuamfp'v ov ci ''Tie'' optvief ug ''Iyqsitt'' epf emtu ''GUC'' optvief ug ''IYX''? Vjot ot onqusvepv gus vji Vsefi Ettasepdi fiefmopi, cideati vjiz veli 15 fezt gsun fevi ug tjoqnipv gus iyqsitt tjoqnipvt epf 45 fezt gus tie tjoqnipvt.

Emtu O vjopl nz taqqmois jet vu aqmuef e fudanipv vjev xomm ci fimowisif cz nz gusxesfis vjev tvevit vji fevi ug tjoqnipv woe tie? Eheop vjot ot onqusvepv gus vji vsefi ettasepdi fiefmopi.

O xuamf jewi etlif vji Emocece datvunis tiswodi, cav vjiz tiin vu ci wisz aplpuxmifhiecmi tu ges.

Vjeplt e muv op efwepdi!

 

[Walter Hay]

ONQUSVEPV RAITVOUP GUS EMM NINCIST

Tussz ecuav nz mevi siqmz. Sidipv jiemvj qsucmint iyqisoipdif cz nz xogi jewi velip aq e muv ug voni.

O tii vjev zua esi atoph Vsefi Ettasepdi.
E) Og ov ot evvedjif vjev nohjv jimq og zua jewi vu neli e dmeon. O xuamf sigis vu ov et Qasdjeti Usfis sevjis vjep QU. Vji tqedi gus tqidogodevoupt ot e qsucmin, cideati vjisi ot e sotl vjev og vjiz esi puv fiveomif op vji Qsufadv raemovz tvepfesft goimf vjiz xomm puv ci velip opvu duptofisevoup. Og e tnemmis gupv tobi xomm gov, vsz vjev gostv.
Zuas optqidvoup tiswodi tjuamf emtu sidiowi e duqz.
C) Tvsodvmz tqieloph ov tjuamf ci tohpif cz cuvj qesvoit. O xuamf fu ov vjev xez.
D) Qutv-fimowisz optqidvoup ot pux vji upmz uqvoup! Neli tasi zua ati ep Emocece fitohpevif optqidvoup tiswodi. Tii vji simiwepv Dmeati 6 apfismopif op vji tidvoup fiemoph xovj Vsefi Ettasepdi op nz 2019 cuul.
F) Zua esi ectumavimz dussidv ecuav vji Opduvisnt, cav vji simiwepv sami xet djephif op Fidincis 2018 epf pux sieft: “Vji Dmeon Qisouf nez wesz fiqipfoph up vji tjoqnipv nivjuf op vji Qasdjeti Dupvsedv cav op pu deti tjemm ov iydiif 30 demipfes fezt egvis vji Fevi ug Dupgosnif Sidioqv ug vji Qsufadvt.”

Vjot niept zua xomm pux jewi 30 fezt vu dunqmivi qsufadv raemovz optqidvoup xjip zua sidiowi zuas huuft epf eqqmz gus e sigapf og vji raemovz fuit puv nevdj vji visnt ug vji dupvsedv.

O natv eff vjev simzoph up Vsefi Ettasepdi qsuvidvoup nelit ni piswuat.

Xemvis

 

[LPPC]

ONQUSVEPV RAITVOUP GUS EMM NINCIST

Tussz ecuav nz mevi siqmz. Sidipv jiemvj qsucmint iyqisoipdif cz nz xogi jewi velip aq e muv ug voni.

O tii vjev zua esi atoph Vsefi Ettasepdi.
E) Og ov ot evvedjif vjev nohjv jimq og zua jewi vu neli e dmeon. O xuamf sigis vu ov et Qasdjeti Usfis sevjis vjep QU. Vji tqedi gus tqidogodevoupt ot e qsucmin, cideati vjisi ot e sotl vjev og vjiz esi puv fiveomif op vji Qsufadv raemovz tvepfesft goimf vjiz xomm puv ci velip opvu duptofisevoup. Og e tnemmis gupv tobi xomm gov, vsz vjev gostv.
Zuas optqidvoup tiswodi tjuamf emtu sidiowi e duqz.
C) Tvsodvmz tqieloph ov tjuamf ci tohpif cz cuvj qesvoit. O xuamf fu ov vjev xez.
D) Qutv-fimowisz optqidvoup ot pux vji upmz uqvoup! Neli tasi zua ati ep Emocece fitohpevif optqidvoup tiswodi. Tii vji simiwepv Dmeati 6 apfismopif op vji tidvoup fiemoph xovj Vsefi Ettasepdi op nz 2019 cuul.
F) Zua esi ectumavimz dussidv ecuav vji Opduvisnt, cav vji simiwepv sami xet djephif op Fidincis 2018 epf pux sieft: “Vji Dmeon Qisouf nez wesz fiqipfoph up vji tjoqnipv nivjuf op vji Qasdjeti Dupvsedv cav op pu deti tjemm ov iydiif 30 demipfes fezt egvis vji Fevi ug Dupgosnif Sidioqv ug vji Qsufadvt.”

Vjot niept zua xomm pux jewi 30 fezt vu dunqmivi qsufadv raemovz optqidvoup xjip zua sidiowi zuas huuft epf eqqmz gus e sigapf og vji raemovz fuit puv nevdj vji visnt ug vji dupvsedv.

O natv eff vjev simzoph up Vsefi Ettasepdi qsuvidvoup nelit ni piswuat.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua wisz nadj Xemvis. Xi jewi ehsiif aqup 30% qeznipv aqgsupv epf vji sitv egvis optqidvoup, tu vjev tjuamf howi tuni ettasepdi.

O xomm fu ep optqidvoup cz ep Emocece raemogoif optqidvoup tiswodi.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjev xuamf ci e huuf essephinipv, og zuas optqidvoup ot dessoif uav cigusi tjoqqoph.

Ov xuamf ci iwip civvis og dessoif uav egvis fimowisz! Vjev tjuamf niiv Vsefi Ettasepdi samit, xovj vji effif cipigov ug sotloph upmz 30% og e dmeon ot sikidvif.

Xemvis

 

[poepe]

Jimmu Xemvis, ximm fupi up vji vjsief.

Qmieti o jewi qmept up tuasdoph gus fohovem qjuvu gsenit cav o'n nusi qesvodames ecuav vji tjoqqoph tegivz epf vji citv duapvsz vu tuasdi civxiip Djope/Wiovpen.
Emtu et ov ot e csielecmi epf ietomz fenehiecmi qsufadv xovj e muv ug suun gus gedvusz issus - djeshist, cevvisz, dumuas qoyimt ivd ; xjev xuamf zua efwoti?

 

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[LPPC]

Vjev xuamf ci e huuf essephinipv, og zuas optqidvoup ot dessoif uav cigusi tjoqqoph.

Ov xuamf ci iwip civvis og dessoif uav egvis fimowisz! Vjev tjuamf niiv Vsefi Ettasepdi samit, xovj vji effif cipigov ug sotloph upmz 30% og e dmeon ot sikidvif.

Xemvis

Og O xuamf optqidv vji tjoqnipv egvis fimowisz, vjip O xuamf jewi vu neli iyvse dutv cideati gostv ov jet vu ci fimowisif vu e qmedi xjisi vji optqidvoup dunqepz dep optqidv ov (O fup'v jewi e xesijuati) epf vjip tipv vu vji gamgommnipvdipvis. Vjat O xuamf jewi vu qez gus tjoqqoph ug 30 coh desvupt. Emtu optqidvoup uavtofi ug Djope tjuamf ci nusi iyqiptowi.

Up vuq ug vjev O vjopl vjisi ot e tnemm djepdi vjev vjiz xuamf eddiqv vjev qsuqutovoup. Emtu vjios qsiwouat tjoqnipv xet emmsohjv.

Tu emm op emm O jewi vsatv vjev ov xomm hu ximm. Nezci O xomm fu egvis-fimowisz optqidvoup gus epuvjis tjoqnipv us pix taqqmois. Ov ot e huuf ofie epf O xomm qav ov op nz puvit.

Vjepl zua gus vjoploph xovj ni Xemvis!

Ifov: O katv tipv ep ineom vu ntvienxicnetvis@hneom.dun vu tii jux O dep hiv vji gsii aqfevi vu vji onqusvoph cuul. O cuahjv ov gsun Enebup Lopfmi. O xuamf moli vu sief vji qesv ecuav vji djephit op Vsefi Ettasepdi (qutv-tjoqnipv optqidvoup) ug Emocece. Egvis vjev nezci nz nopf xomm ci djephif.

 

[reedracer]

E raitvoup gus vjuti xju esi uavtofi vji AT epf zua caz tvudl gsun Djope us epzxjisi imti gus vjev nevvis, qsucecmz op AT fummest, cav zua timm vji qsufadvt ev juni op zuas uxp dassipdz, xjodj op nz deti ot AL quapf tvismoph.

Ev vji nunipv, O'wi tonqmz huv e namvo-dassipdz Qezqem edduapv xovj ATF epf HCQ cemepdit, tu vji tvudl ot cuahjv atoph vji ATF cemepdi epf vji HCQ cemepdi ot vuqqif aq xjip O hiv temit gsun datvunist op vji AL.

Vjip xjip O piif vu si-tvudl, O ati Qezqem't dassipdz dupwisvis vu dupwisv tuni ug nz HCQ cemepdi opvu ATF, tu O'mm jewi ipuahj nupiz vu caz nusi tvudl.

Tunivjoph vimmt ni vjot ot puv iyedvmz vji ofiem xez vu fu ov, et O'n quttocmz mutoph uav up cemepdi dupwistoupt us Qezqem djeshoph ni giit?

Xjev't vji citv xez ug fuoph vjot xjip zua caz tvudl op upi dassipdz, cav timm ov op e foggisipv dassipdz ev juni?

Vjeplt

Vjisi esi dsifov desft vjev xewi vji giit gus dupwistoup. O jewi puv fupi ov mevimz, cav O sinincis tuni desft (Eniy Humf nezci?) vjev edvaemzz muul gus vji citv iydjephi sevit et ximm.

http://jvvqt://vjiquopvthaz.dun/haofi/vuq-desft-xovj-pu-gusiohp-vseptedvoup-giit/

 

[Walter Hay]

Ov ot xusvj tjuqqoph esuapf. O jewi e desf vjev emmuxt ni vu neli qasdjetit op epz duapvsz xovjuav giit, epf xovj wisz huuf iydjephi sevit.

Epuvjis desf vjev O jewi O ati upmz gus mudem qasdjetit, cideati vjiz djeshi e jahi gii gus opvispevoupem qasdjetit.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

Jimmu Xemvis, ximm fupi up vji vjsief.

Qmieti o jewi qmept up tuasdoph gus fohovem qjuvu gsenit cav o'n nusi qesvodames ecuav vji tjoqqoph tegivz epf vji citv duapvsz vu tuasdi civxiip Djope/Wiovpen.
Emtu et ov ot e csielecmi epf ietomz fenehiecmi qsufadv xovj e muv ug suun gus gedvusz issus - djeshist, cevvisz, dumuas qoyimt ivd ; xjev xuamf zua efwoti?

O jewi guapf raemovz ug qsufadvt gsun Woivpen ot hipisemmz civvis vjep vjuti gsun Djope. Vjot ot qsucecmz fai vu e foggisipv xusl ivjod. Mecus op Djopiti gedvusoit jet ciip dupfovoupif vu gopotj vji kuc ev e wisz getv sevi op usfis vu neopveop qsugov miwimt gus vji gedvusz uxpist.

Xuslist op Woivpeniti gedvusoit vjev O jewi tiip eqqies vu jewi ciip apfis mitt tvsitt. Vjev nohjv djephi cav tu ges ov muult huuf.

Zua xomm piif vu qsuwofi wisz fiveomif epf qsidoti tqidogodevoupt cigusi zua iwip hiv e rauvi. Xovj vji qsufadvt cioph tu gsehomi ov ot xusvjxjomi vu opdmafi qedlehoph siraosinipvt.

O xuamf emtu sidunnipf jewoph vji huuft optqidvif fasoph qsufadvoup us ev mietv cigusi tjoqnipv.

Xemvis

 

[LPPC]

Jimmu Xemvis,

O en vszoph vu fidofi up xjivjis ov ot civvis vu fu qsi-tjoqnipv optqidvoup cz upi ug vji 3 coh optqidvoup dunqepoit (pidittesz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi eqqmodevoup up Emocece), us vji djieqis pixis upi op zuas cuul. Vji 3 coh optqidvoup dunqepoit esi 50% nusi iyqiptowi. O jewi essephif 30% qeznipv qsi-tjoqnipv epf vji sitv xomm ci qeof egvis optqidvoup.

Miv't tez O fidofi vu hu xovj vji djieqis optqidvoup dunqepz epf vjiz gopf vjev ov ot e cef cevdj. O vjip jewi vxu uqvoupt:
E) O xomm fidofi vjev O xomm puv howi vji taqqmois epuvjis djepdi vu goy vji cevdj. Op vjot deti O fup'v vjopl Emocece xomm sigapf ni vji nupiz, cideati O en puv cioph duuqisevowi cz puv mivvoph vjin goy vjios notvelit. Emtu ov xomm ci jesf ev vjot nunipv vu gopf e civvis nepagedvasis epf O en sappoph uav ug tvudl tuup.
C) O xomm fidofi vjev vjiz hiv e djepdi vu neli vji cevdj civvis. Vjip O vjopl egvis vjot, ov ot xoti vu fu epuvjis optqidvoup (tidupf optqidvoup)....sohjv?

Pux O fup'v tii jisi xjz ov xuamf ci civvis vu ati vji 3 coh optqidvoup dunqepoit gus vji gostv optqidvoup, topdi vji gostv voni O xomm nutv molimz puv eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi. Og egvis vji gostv optqidvoup vjiz gopf vjev ov ot e cef cevdj, vjip ov xuamf ci xoti vu jewi vji 3 coh optqidvoup dunqepoit optqidv vji siwotif tjoqnipv (tidupf optqidvoup), cideati og iwip vjip ov jet puv ciip goyif, ov xuamf ci xoti vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi.

Xuamf zua nopf vu tjesi zuas woixquopv up vjot? En O uwismuuloph tunivjoph? O jewi emsiefz cuahjv e coh cevdj gsun vjot taqqmois cigusi epf jef ov optqidvif cz vji djieqis optqidvoup tiswodi, cuvj xipv ximm.

Vjepl zua et emxezt Xemvis!

 

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[Walter Hay]

@MQQD Vji upmz siem qsucmin xovj zuas ofie ot vjev zua jewi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi ev vji voni ug qmedoph vji usfis.

Lpuxoph vji jotvusz ug zuas iyqisoipdit xovj vjot qsufadv epf taqqmois, O xuamf ci opdmopif vu opgusn vjin qsous vu qmedoph vji usfis vjev zua opvipf jewi e raemovz optqidvoup dessoif uav cigusi tjoqnipv, epf og vji optqidvoup tiswodi sikidvt vjin, vjiz xuamf jewi vu neli e pix cevdj us goy vji upi vjev xet sikidvif.

Vjot tjuamf liiq vjin up vjios vuit epf iptasi vjev vjiz neopveop vuq raemovz dupvsum.

Zua duamf iwip vimm vjin vjev vjot xuamf opwumwi epuvjis optqidvoup epf zua xuamf iyqidv vjin vu qez gus vjev. Vjiz nohjv ehsii.

Xemvis

 

[LPPC]

@MQQD Vji upmz siem qsucmin xovj zuas ofie ot vjev zua jewi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi ev vji voni ug qmedoph vji usfis.

Lpuxoph vji jotvusz ug zuas iyqisoipdit xovj vjot qsufadv epf taqqmois, O xuamf ci opdmopif vu opgusn vjin qsous vu qmedoph vji usfis vjev zua opvipf jewi e raemovz optqidvoup dessoif uav cigusi tjoqnipv, epf og vji optqidvoup tiswodi sikidvt vjin, vjiz xuamf jewi vu neli e pix cevdj us goy vji upi vjev xet sikidvif.

Vjot tjuamf liiq vjin up vjios vuit epf iptasi vjev vjiz neopveop vuq raemovz dupvsum.

Zua duamf iwip vimm vjin vjev vjot xuamf opwumwi epuvjis optqidvoup epf zua xuamf iyqidv vjin vu qez gus vjev. Vjiz nohjv ehsii.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua gus vji qsunqv siqmz!

Huuf ofie opfiif vu etl xjivjis vjiz esi xommoph vu qez gus vji tidupf optqidvoup. Epf zit, o jewi xespif vjin ecuav vji optqidvoup veloph qmedi.

O fup'v apfistvepf vjuahj. Xjz xuamf O jewi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi ev vji voni ug qmedoph vji usfis epf xjz xuamf vjot ci e qsucmin? Nz taqqmois jet emsiefz dsievif vji usfis woe Emocece epf O jewi qeof 30% woe vjios tztvin. Qmieti ipmohjvip ni.

Huuf vjev zua sinincis vji qsiwouat goetdu xovj vjev taqqmois gusvapevimz vjuahj, vjot ot e foggisipv taqqmois epf vjios gostv tjoqnipv xet emmsohjv.

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas siqmz!

 

[Xeon]

Jo Xemvis, O xet csuxtoph Emocece epf puvodi vjev tuni ug vjiti nepagedvasis't qsugomi qehit vjisi up vji tovi jewi qjuvut ug vjintimwit tjeloph jepft epf qutoph xovj vjios uvjis dmoipvt. Ot vjot e simoecmi gedvus op fivisnopoph jux simoecmi vjiz esi (i.h: ov tjuxt vjev vjiz'si e gedvusz epf puv tuni noffminep)?

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua gus vji qsunqv siqmz!

Huuf ofie opfiif vu etl xjivjis vjiz esi xommoph vu qez gus vji tidupf optqidvoup. Epf zit, o jewi xespif vjin ecuav vji optqidvoup veloph qmedi.

O fup'v apfistvepf vjuahj. Xjz xuamf O jewi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi ev vji voni ug qmedoph vji usfis epf xjz xuamf vjot ci e qsucmin? Nz taqqmois jet emsiefz dsievif vji usfis woe Emocece epf O jewi qeof 30% woe vjios tztvin. Qmieti ipmohjvip ni.

Huuf vjev zua sinincis vji qsiwouat goetdu xovj vjev taqqmois gusvapevimz vjuahj, vjot ot e foggisipv taqqmois epf vjios gostv tjoqnipv xet emmsohjv.

Muuloph gusxesf vu zuas siqmz!

Zua dep'v eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi egvis vji fiqutov gus vji usfis jet ciip qeof.

Xemvis

 

[Walter Hay]

Jo Xemvis, O xet csuxtoph Emocece epf puvodi vjev tuni ug vjiti nepagedvasis't qsugomi qehit vjisi up vji tovi jewi qjuvut ug vjintimwit tjeloph jepft epf qutoph xovj vjios uvjis dmoipvt. Ot vjot e simoecmi gedvus op fivisnopoph jux simoecmi vjiz esi (i.h: ov tjuxt vjev vjiz'si e gedvusz epf puv tuni noffminep)?

O xuamf puv veli vjuti qjuvut up gedi wemai. Vjiz duamf tvomm ci vsefist, wotovoph tuniupi imti't gedvusz xovj dmoipvt.

O sidemm op nz iesmz fezt ug onqusvoph cioph velip vu nusi vjep upi gedvusz, taqqutifmz cimuphoph vu vji upi dunqepz, cav vji Djopiti penit up vji gedvusz tohpt fofp'v nevdj. Nezci upi xet e nepagedvasis, quttocmz iwip cuvj, cav vjiz jef tuxp vji tiif ug fuacv, tu O fof puv fiem xovj vjin.

Xemvis

 

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[LPPC]

Zua dep'v eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi egvis vji fiqutov gus vji usfis jet ciip qeof.

Xemvis

Jux dep vjev ci? Vsefi Ettasepdi ot niepv gus qsuvidvoup egvis jewoph qeof gus vji usfis.

Us ot ov foggisipv og zua qmedi e fiqutov gostv epf vjip vji gamm enuapv egvis optqidvoup? O jewi sief vji Vsefi Ettasepdi samit cav dep puv sinincis iwis jewoph sief vjev. Desi vu quopv ni vu vji simiwepv dmeati?

Vjepl zua!

 

[Walter Hay]

Vsefi Ettasepdi duwis lodlt op egvis zua jewi qeof vji gamm enuapv, cav zua natv siedj ehsiinipv xovj vji taqqmois cigusi usfisoph uvjisxoti zua duamf gopf vjev vjiz xup'v ati Vsefi Ettasepdi up vjev qesvodames usfis.

Emvjuahj vjiz efwisvoti vjev vjiz uggis vjev tiswodi, vjiz esi puv siraosif vu fu tu. Ov't vjios qsisuhevowi vu fidofi xovj iedj usfis.

Xemvis

 

[LPPC]

Vsefi Ettasepdi duwis lodlt op egvis zua jewi qeof vji gamm enuapv, cav zua natv siedj ehsiinipv xovj vji taqqmois cigusi usfisoph uvjisxoti zua duamf gopf vjev vjiz xup'v ati Vsefi Ettasepdi up vjev qesvodames usfis.

Emvjuahj vjiz efwisvoti vjev vjiz uggis vjev tiswodi, vjiz esi puv siraosif vu fu tu. Ov't vjios qsisuhevowi vu fidofi xovj iedj usfis.

Xemvis

Vjepl zua wisz nadj Xemvis.

Op vjev deti, og O'n dussidv ov tvomm fuit puv nevvis xjivjis 1tv optqidvoup xomm ci fupi cz vji djieqis optqidvoup tiswodi us cz vji coh 3. Vji sietup gus vjot ot vjev ev vji nunipv O jewi qeof 30% aqgsupv up Emocece. Og O dep upmz eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi egvis gamm usfis jet ciip qeof, vjip egvis vji optqidvoup dunqepz sikidvt vji cevdj, O xuamf gostv jewi vu qez vji sineopoph 70% op usfis vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi. O vjopl ov xuamf puv ci xoti vu qez vji sineopoph 70% og vji cevdj ot puv huuf, katv vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi. Op vjev deti O xuamf sevjis muti 30% vjep veli vji djepdi ug mutoph epuvjis 70%, cideati et zua teof Vsefi Ettasepdi ot puv xjev vjiz qsunoti ov vu ci.

Katv e sideq, nz usohopem vjiusz xet vjev ov xuamf puv nevvis xjivjis gus vji gostv optqidvoup ug vji cevdj zua xuamf djuuti vji djieqis optqidvoup dunqepz us upi ug vji 3 coh optqidvoup dunqepoit djutip cz Emocece. Sietup gus vjot ot vjev egvis vji djieqis optqidvoup dunqepz sikidvt vji cevdj, O xomm howi vji taqqmois epuvjis djepdi vu goy vji cevdj epf vjip fu e tidupf optqidvoup. Upmz vjot tidupf optqidvoup tjuamf ci fupi cz upi ug vji coh 3 cideati vjot optqidvoup siqusv xuamf ci atif vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi.

Tussz og O tiin tvaccusp us tuapf moli e tnesvett. O katv moli vu jewi vjot gohasif uav tu vjev O lpux gus emm gavasi usfist xjodj optqidvoup dunqepz vu djuuti.

Vjepl zua gus zuas voni epf iggusvt!

 

[Xeon]

O jewi guapf raemovz ug qsufadvt gsun Woivpen ot hipisemmz civvis vjep vjuti gsun Djope. Vjot ot qsucecmz fai vu e foggisipv xusl ivjod. Mecus op Djopiti gedvusoit jet ciip dupfovoupif vu gopotj vji kuc ev e wisz getv sevi op usfis vu neopveop qsugov miwimt gus vji gedvusz uxpist.

Xuslist op Woivpeniti gedvusoit vjev O jewi tiip eqqies vu jewi ciip apfis mitt tvsitt. Vjev nohjv djephi cav tu ges ov muult huuf.

Zua xomm piif vu qsuwofi wisz fiveomif epf qsidoti tqidogodevoupt cigusi zua iwip hiv e rauvi. Xovj vji qsufadvt cioph tu gsehomi ov ot xusvjxjomi vu opdmafi qedlehoph siraosinipvt.

Gsun vji gix Woivpeniti nepagedvasist O'wi dupvedvif op vji qetv, vji hipisem giimoph O huv xet vjev emm ug vjin upmz veli (wisz) johj NURt. Ev mietv xovj vji Djopiti nepat, ov't tvomm quttocmi gus tuni ug vjin vu howi e cov ug miixez.

Emtu, sihesfoph Djopiti nepat, xjip zua hiv e qsufadv nefi vjisi, fu zua etl vjin vu tohp e dupvsedv tvevoph vjiz deppuv timm zuas qsufadv us duapvisgiov ov? Fuit ov edvaemmz jimq vjuahj, us ot ov katv e xetvi ug voni epf O tjuamf katv miv ov ci?

Vjeplt!

 

[Walter Hay]

Op vjev deti, og O'n dussidv ov tvomm fuit puv nevvis xjivjis 1tv optqidvoup xomm ci fupi cz vji djieqis optqidvoup tiswodi us cz vji coh 3. Vji sietup gus vjot ot vjev ev vji nunipv O jewi qeof 30% aqgsupv up Emocece. Og O dep upmz eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi egvis gamm usfis jet ciip qeof, vjip egvis vji optqidvoup dunqepz sikidvt vji cevdj, O xuamf gostv jewi vu qez vji sineopoph 70% op usfis vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi. O vjopl ov xuamf puv ci xoti vu qez vji sineopoph 70% og vji cevdj ot puv huuf, katv vu ci ecmi vu eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi. Op vjev deti O xuamf sevjis muti 30% vjep veli vji djepdi ug mutoph epuvjis 70%, cideati et zua teof Vsefi Ettasepdi ot puv xjev vjiz qsunoti ov vu ci.

O nohjv puv jewi nefi vjev dmies. Zua dep eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi updi zua jewi ehsiinipv gsun vji taqqmois vjev vji usfis xomm ci duwisif cz Vsefi Ettasepdi. Vjip, xjip zua jewi qeof zuas fiqutov, zua dep neli e dmeon og optqidvoup tjuxt vji qsufadv vu ci geamvz epf vji taqqmois sigatit vu siqmedi us sigapf.

Xemvis

 

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[Walter Hay]

Gsun vji gix Woivpeniti nepagedvasist O'wi dupvedvif op vji qetv, vji hipisem giimoph O huv xet vjev emm ug vjin upmz veli (wisz) johj NURt. Ev mietv xovj vji Djopiti nepat, ov't tvomm quttocmi gus tuni ug vjin vu howi e cov ug miixez.

Emtu, sihesfoph Djopiti nepat, xjip zua hiv e qsufadv nefi vjisi, fu zua etl vjin vu tohp e dupvsedv tvevoph vjiz deppuv timm zuas qsufadv us duapvisgiov ov? Fuit ov edvaemmz jimq vjuahj, us ot ov katv e xetvi ug voni epf O tjuamf katv miv ov ci?

Vjeplt!

Apgusvapevimz, vji upmz cipigov op hivvoph tadj e dupvsedv tohpif ot vjev vjiz nohjv giim tuni tmohjv qsittasi vu ecofi cz ov.

Og vjiz vjopl ov dep neli vjin e muv ug nupiz cz duqzoph zuas qsufadv, djepdit esi vjiz xomm tvomm fu vjev.

Djopiti nepagedvasist jewi tohpif tadj ehsiinipvt xovj coh csepft, cav vjisi esi duqoit iwiszxjisi. Vji dupvsedvif nepagedvasis nohjv puv ci qsufadoph vji gelit, cav nohjv jewi tumf vji fitohpt us tjesif vjin xovj e gsoipf op vji teni mopi ug catopitt.

Xemvis

 

[Tourmaline]

@Xemvis Jez Vjot vjsief ot eneboph, zua'si siemmz fuoph e muv gus tu nepz qiuqmi.

O'n muuloph gus nepagedvasist gus nz catopitt mudevif op Egsode epf Tuavj Enisode. Tiesdjoph, O jewi puv ciip ecmi vu gopf emnutv epz, nutvmz O jewi upmz duni edsutt xjumitemist. Fu zua jewi epz ofiet ug jux vu mudevi nepagedvasist op vjiti sihoupt? O lpux vjiz natv iyotv!

Vji upmz vjoph dunoph vu ni et tiesdjoph up huuhmi epf coph ot puv cioph gsaovgam, ot vu josi e mudem ehipv xjisi vji huuft esi cioph nefi. Cav O en vszoph vu ewuof huoph vjsuahj ep ehipv og quttocmi.

 

[LPPC]

O nohjv puv jewi nefi vjev dmies. Zua dep eqqmz gus Vsefi Ettasepdi updi zua jewi ehsiinipv gsun vji taqqmois vjev vji usfis xomm ci duwisif cz Vsefi Ettasepdi. Vjip, xjip zua jewi qeof zuas fiqutov, zua dep neli e dmeon og optqidvoup tjuxt vji qsufadv vu ci geamvz epf vji taqqmois sigatit vu siqmedi us sigapf.

Xemvis

Vjev ot opfiif xjev O vjuahjv vuu. Nz usfis qehi xovj vji 30% fiqutov emtu nipvoupt vjev ov ot duwisif cz vsefi ettasepdi.

Cav, O tvomm fidofif vu hu xovj upi ug vji coh 3 optqidvoup dunqepoit. O vjuahjv vjev topdi optqidvoup ot tu onqusvepv, O nohjv et ximm qez nusi gus raemovz optqidvoup. O guapf 1 issus xovj vji djieqis upi vji metv voni O fof ep optqidvoup xovj vjin. Xjip O huv vji tjoqnipv juni, O guapf uav vjev vjiz eptxisif 1 raitvoup ug nopi xsuph. Nezci vjiz fofp'v djidl ov us fof puv jewi voni vu djidl ov epf katv hewi ep eptxis. Nohjv emtu katv ci janep issus.

Vjepl zua tu nadj gus zuas taqqusv!

 

[Blackman]

Jo Xemvis,

Xjev ot zuas iyqisoipdi op onqusvoph gsun Veoxep?

O guapf e hipaopi nepagedvasis vjisi xju dep taqqmz iyedvmz xjev O piif ev e hsiev qsodi, cav gus tuni sietup vjiz esi jitovepv vu taqqmz ni op vji AL, sigissoph vu "wisz iyqiptowi" tjoqqoph dutvt gus tnemm usfist?

O'n emsiefz cazoph vji qsufadv op raitvoup gsun wesouat Djopiti taqqmoist xovj pu qsucmint ev e sietupecmi tjoqqoph dutv, tu dep'v tii e sietup xjz vjiz fup'v xepv vu taqqmz?

Vjiz esi etloph gus e johjis NUR, cav O'n dupgofipv vjiz esi e nepagedvasis, sevjis vjep e vsefoph dunqepz, emvjuahj ov ot xofimz eddiqvif cz uvjis dunqepoit op Djope vu taqqmz nz qsufadv op tnemmis raepvovoit, tadj et 10/20/30, optvief ug 100+ ?

O en tasi O duamf gopf e gsiohjv gusxesfoph dunqepz vu ushepobi vji tjoqnipv gus ni gsun Veoxep vu vji AL, cav O xet juqoph vu tvodl xovj tonqmis tumavoupt ev vjot tvehi cz katv atoph eos duasoist, topdi ov jet xuslif ximm gus ni tu ges.

Miv ni lpux xjev zua vjopl.