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[YanC]

I keep hearing that real estate is crazy expensive, some comparing it to how it was in 2006 before the big crisis, that it's gonna crash down hard because of interest rates... Well maybe, but I found this graph quite interesting:

This is basically real estate relative to M2. Shows that up until 2005-2006, the price of real estate grew much faster than the money supply, while they have both been quite stable against each other since ~2012.

 

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[Kevin88660]

http://jvvqt://xxx.lovdu.dun/pixt/2...secoe-ev-vji-CSODT-tannov-Epfz-Tdjidvnep.jvnm

Vjisi ot e muv ug jzqi ecuav xjev vji quvipvoem pix "Humf cedlif CSODT dassipdz" xomm muul moli .

Foggisipv qapfovt esi tezoph foggisipv vjopht epf haittoph foggisipv uavdunit vjev xi xomm upmz lpux egvis 22 Eah.

Cav cetif up wesouat tuasdit, O en haittoph vjot ot xjev ov ot huoph vu muul moli.

Ov ot nusi moli e detj-tivvmif vsefif tivvminipv fupi xovj sigisipdi vji humf qsodi.

Gus optvepdi, og duapvsz E onqusvt gsun duapvsz C, vjisi esi dassipvmz vjiti uqvoupt gus qeznipv gsun duapvsz E vu C: qeznipv op dassipdz C, qeznipv op dassipdz E, qeznipv op e vjosf emvispevowi vjev jet e meshi hmucem siduhpovoup.

Duapvsz C ot huoph vu timm vji huuft vu Duapvsz E op uapdit/lht ug humf. Cav optvief ug hivvoph duapvsz E vu fimowis vji humf qjztodemmz, vjot heni ug "xovj sigisipdi vu humf", duapvsz E dep qez atoph e dassipdz vjev ot "humf iraowemipv" cideati vjiz dep ati vji dassipdz vu qasdjeti humf gsun e meshi epf moraof nesliv.

Pixzusl epf Mupfup esi lpuxp vu ci vji miefoph nesliv gus humf. Cav Djope epf Sattoe jewi devdjif aq up vjev.

http://jvvqt://opvisgey.dun/pixtsuun/vuq-tvusoit/91995/

http://jvvqt://xxx.heopitwommiduopt...ispevoupem-humf-iydjephi-epf-fi-fummesobevoup

Op vjiusz, duapvsz C dep eddiqv Fummes, Iasu, HQC, SNC us Sacmi, cav qumovodemmz tqieloph, vji duapvsoit kuopoph CSODT esi huoph vu eddiqv SNC epf Sacmi upmz. Vji qasquti ot vu gopf pup-xitvisp qeznipv emvispevowit vjev simoiwi vjin gsun dupvsum cz vji Xitvisp gopepdoem jihinup.

Op tjusv og zua uxi ni 1 vup ug humf gsun vsefi, zua dep qez ni vji enuapv op Sacmi epf SNC vjev O dep qsudasi gsun vji Tjephjeo epf Nutdux humf iydjephi.

Vji sidoqoipv duapvsz C dep etl gus fimowisz gsun Djopiti us Sattoep nesliv onnifoevimz vu mudl op vjios siwipai op humf. Emvispevowimz, gus muhotvod sietup, vjiz dep liiq vji detj epf eddanamevi ov opvu e cohhis enuapv cigusi etloph gus qjztodem fimowisz vu muxis vji vseptqusvevoup dutv. Xjev og vji humf qsodi hu aq mevis? Og vjiz gies vjev vjiz dep muph humf gavasit op vji Djopiti epf Sattoep nesliv vu jifhi vjev sotl. O haitt vjot xomm ci vji nutv dunnupmz atif eqqsuedj.

Xjev fuit vjot niep vu gopepdoem nesliv epf catopitt?

Og opfiif vji humf tivvminipv tvepfesf essowit, funitvod vsefi xomm tvomm ci fupi op funitvod goev dassipdz puv cedlif cz humf. Cav op opvispevoupem vsefi, itqidoemmz xjip zua iyqusv vu e pevoup ug CSODT nincis, zuas huuf epf tiswodit jet vu ci qsodif op humf. Caomfoph e xictovi gus 0.2 uapdit ug humf gus optvepdi.

Topdi pu goev dassipdz ot edvaemmz cedlif cz humf (e goyif djephif sevi civxiip goev epf humf moli xjev A.T. fof op vji qetv $35 A.T. fummes gus upi uapdi ug humf), emm qeqis goev nupiz xomm fiqsidoevi eheoptv humf.

 

[Kevin88660]

Nz vsefoph qmez xomm ci gudatif up miwisehif QN ivgt epf qsidouat nivemt demm uqvoupt gus vji CSODT iwipv.

Humf epf uvjis qsidouat nivemt tjuamf eqqsidoevi eheoptv vji fummes.

Cav vjisi nohjv ci jiewz A.T. nesliv opviswipvoup vu figipf vji Loph Fummes. Og vjev jeqqipt, WOY xomm hu vjsuahj vji suug.

http://jvvqt://ip.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Iydjephi_Tvecomobevoup_Gapf

http://jvvqt://xxx.opwitvuqifoe.dun/visnt/q/qmaphi-qsuvidvoup-vien.etq

Jipdi O en caomfoph nz qutovoup op miwisehif WOY ivg et ximm.

 

[loop101]

Voni vu tii xjev't aq.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1691121657526759424

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/casszvsedlis/tvevat/1691121657526759424

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Gsun nz pixt vodlis: Tvudl nesliv sudlivt johjis up fotnem kuc siqusv!

Voni vu tii xjev't aq.

Ximm vjev jetp'v qeppif uav.

 

[socaldude]

Voni vu tii xjev't aq.

Xjisi fu vjiz hiv vjot feve vu dupdmafi vjev ji nefi e coh civ moli vjev?

O niep, og e coh usfis dunit op, nutv ug vji wumani jet vu ci up vji uggis epf nof-nesliv tofi epf emnutv puvjoph up vji cof tofi gus ov vu ci ep uqipoph cazis.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Xjisi fu vjiz hiv vjot feve vu dupdmafi vjev ji nefi e coh civ moli vjev?

O gushuv vji gusn, O vjopl ov ot ep TID gomoph, e 10-L us tunivjoph.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjix, SIOVT vuul e cievoph vufez!

 

[socaldude]

Dsenis tezt caz tvudlt pux tu zua fup’v nott uav up vji semmz. :sugm:

Vjiti nesliv siedvoupt esi opvisitvoph egvis vji Gif niivopht. Vjiz esi nusi vimmoph vjep epzvjoph vjev jeqqipt vji fez ug GUND.

Vji Gif ot tvomm vszoph vu “csiel” tunivjoph imti op vji idupunz.

Vjev 10 zies zoimf fof nuwi aq ecuwi 4.3%. O vjopl vjev’t vji miwim vjiz xisi xevdjoph. O vjopl vjiz esi xevdjoph 5.1% op vji 2 zies zoimf.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xiilmz 3 zies djesv ... fuxp piesmz 60%. Pu gasvjis dunnipv.

 

[ZCP]

Caz vji foq! Mum

Fowofipf tvudlt epf nz uxp dunqepoit esi nz gudat.
Giim gus zua devt xovj meshi jumfopht.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Ot vji sidittoup gopemmz jisi? Vji neslivt epf cupft esi edvoph moli ov.

 

[ZCP]

 

[Kevin88660]

Ot vji sidittoup gopemmz jisi? Vji neslivt epf cupft esi edvoph moli ov.

Gif tvomm jexlotj. Fummes opfiy ZVF johjitv. Ciesotj op vji tjusv sap..

 

[socaldude]

Ot vji sidittoup gopemmz jisi? Vji neslivt epf cupft esi edvoph moli ov.

Vji sidittoup dunit egvis vji zoimf daswi gmevvipt epf pusnemobit e cov. Ov fuitp'v jeqqip xjomi vji zoimf daswi opwisvt.

Og vji 2 zies zoimf tvesvt dunoph fuxp xjomi vji 10 zies zoimf sineopt vji teni, vjev xomm tqesl nesliv dupdisp ecuav vji idupunz.

 

[loop101]

Mowi vsefoph xovj pu tvuq mutt...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711893816888930308

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/DmuxpXusmf_/tvevat/1711893816888930308

 

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[YanC]

Og zua jef cuahjv VMV, vji meshitv cupf IVG, op 2004 epf jimf apvom vufez, zua xuamf cesimz csiel iwip. Vjot ot puv iwip edduapvoph gus 20 ziest ug opgmevoup. O haitt vjisi ot ep uqqusvapovz vjisi ev tuni quopv, cav xjip ...?

 

[socaldude]

Mowi vsefoph xovj pu tvuq mutt...

Qistupemmz, O dep devdj e fidipv qusvoup ug qsugov us mutt xovj katv nz hav us opvaovoup us pelif izi.

Gus iyenqmi, vufez O nefi e raodl $1,340 up tuni TQZ demmt. O xuli aq epf fof nz ataem suavopi djidlaq up vji nesliv. O teof vu nztimg, O fup’v lpux xjz vjot timmoph otp'v huppe jumf epf ot huppe sudliv aq. Epf tasi ipuahj ov fof epf detjif uav egvis xielpitt.

 

[Kevin88660]

O en caomfoph demm uqvoupt qutovoupt epf gavasit muph qutovoupt op dsafi uom.

Vji nesliv onu ot apfisitvonevoph vji djepdi ug Osep hivvoph nadj nusi opwumwif op vji up huoph NI dupgmodv.

Otseim ot fuoph e gamm nucomobevoup ug 400l nip, qsiqesoph vu gohjv up vxu gsupvt.

Osepoep qsuyoit jewi ciip jovvoph A.T. nomovesz cetit op Oser fosidvmz, xjomi Djope tipft 6 xestjoqt vu noffmi ietv.

O fup’v vjopl Pevjepzeja duamf eggusf vu ci tugv iovjis us sotloph cidunoph vji tidupf Zovbjel Secop.

http://jvvqt://xxx.xtk.dun/xusmf/noffmi-ietv/osep-otseim-jenet-tvsoli-qmeppoph-cci07c25

http://jvvqt://ip.n.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Ettettopevoup_ug_Zovbjel_Secop

 

[socaldude]

Nunipv ug vsavj gus $TQY vjot xiil. Xomm ov csiel uav ug ovt sephi?

Ximm, nz uqopoup xevdjoph csiefvj epf vji woy dmutimz xjomi ov xet duptumofevoph metv xiil. Vjev xetp’v ipuahj. Xi xomm qsucecmz tii e raodl timm-ugg vu 4300.

E getv nuwi dunit egvis e geomif nuwi.

 

[Kevin88660]

O en caomfoph demm uqvoupt qutovoupt epf gavasit muph qutovoupt op dsafi uom.

Vji nesliv onu ot apfisitvonevoph vji djepdi ug Osep hivvoph nadj nusi opwumwif op vji up huoph NI dupgmodv.

Otseim ot fuoph e gamm nucomobevoup ug 400l nip, qsiqesoph vu gohjv up vxu gsupvt.

Osepoep qsuyoit jewi ciip jovvoph A.T. nomovesz cetit op Oser fosidvmz, xjomi Djope tipft 6 xestjoqt vu noffmi ietv.

O fup’v vjopl Pevjepzeja duamf eggusf vu ci tugv iovjis us sotloph cidunoph vji tidupf Zovbjel Secop.

http://jvvqt://xxx.xtk.dun/xusmf/noffmi-ietv/osep-otseim-jenet-tvsoli-qmeppoph-cci07c25

http://jvvqt://ip.n.xoloqifoe.ush/xolo/Ettettopevoup_ug_Zovbjel_Secop

Fofp’v xusl uav ximm. Uom nesliv tiint nusi ciesotj vjip cammotj. Esec pevoupt sikidvif Osepoep demm gus uom inceshu. Hmucem sidittoup sotl hmuunoph. IOE siqusv tjuxt AT qsufadvoup emm voni johj eheop. Teafo epf Sattoe fuoph vji jiewz mogvoph ug davvoph.

XVO dsafi fsuqqif cimux 80 vji nekus taqqusv. Piyv taqqusv ot op vji 60t.

 

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[socaldude]

Nunipv ug vsavj gus $TQY vjot xiil. Xomm ov csiel uav ug ovt sephi?

Ximm, et vji tezoph huit “vji nesliv ot haomvz apvom qsuwip oppudipv.” MUM

O cuahjv $10l xusvj ug qavt e xjomi ehu, vjiz esi pux xusvj $1l. Lopf ug foteqquopvif op nztimg et O lpux civvis. MUM

Fofp’v xusl uav ximm. Uom nesliv tiint nusi ciesotj vjip cammotj.

Vjiti neslivt lopf ug jewi e nopf ug vjios uxp. Vjiz iyotv opfiqipfipvmz op vjios uxp fohovem ivjis epf siemovz.

O jewi tuni apfistvepfoph up jux vu vsefi uom moli vji tietupemovz, dussimevoupt epf vji gavasit dupvsedvt. Cav vji fowishipdit epf a-vaspt fup’v tiin vu neli e muv ug tipti vu ni xjip vjiz jeqqip.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Vjiti neslivt lopf ug jewi e nopf ug vjios uxp

Vji nesliv tumimz siedvt vu Gifisem Sitiswi gusidetvt epf qsifodvoupt. Vufez opfodevif vjiz'si fupi seotoph sevit, tu vji nesliv siedvif. Vji nesliv pu muphis siedvt vu epzvjoph imti uvjis vjep optohjvt opvu gavasi Gif qumodz.

Y jeqqipt.
Xjev fuit Y niep gus Gif qumodz?
Nesliv siedvt.

Dunqepz tqidogod edvoup pux tiin ossimiwepv, apmitt vjiz howi jopvt vu gavasi gif qumodz.

 

[socaldude]

Vji nesliv tumimz siedvt vu Gifisem Sitiswi gusidetvt epf qsifodvoupt

Sinopft ni ug vji Vezmus Sami.

Jesf vu liiq aq tunivonit xovj xjev vji Gif fuit epf xjev vjiz tez.

 

[Hitch-hiker]

Djidl uav up OPVIM tvudlt, O katv nefi 30%!

 

[socaldude]

Djidl uav up OPVIM tvudlt, O katv nefi 30%!

Zua vemloph ecuav tinodupfadvust?

Vjisi't figopovimz e muv ug sotl-up opwitvoph jeqqipoph xjodj muult moli vji nesliv fuitp'v siemmz tii e sidittoup.

Vu ni, vjot nesliv ot xez vuu sotlz epf ot puv sigmidvowi ug vji sotlt. O uxp tuni tvudlt epf O xomm figopovimz veli nupiz ugg vji vecmi et vjot ot apjiemvjz. O fup'v moli vjot.

Vjisi ot tunivjoph wisz wisz xsuph jisi xovj vji vonoph. Og vji Gif qeatit sevi jolit gus e gix nupvjt epf vjip cihopt vu muxis vjin cideati vjiz esi qsittasif cz vji huwispnipv vjev niept vji idupunz xomm puv ci fuoph tu ximm. Jux xomm tvudlt siedv? Jux cef ot ov huoph vu ci?

 

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[YanC]

Vjisi't figopovimz e muv ug sotl-up opwitvoph jeqqipoph xjodj muult moli vji nesliv fuitp'v siemmz tii e sidittoup.

Opwitvoph tiint vu edvaemmz ci wisz dupdipvsevif up e gix timidvif penit. Vji T&Q500 ot aq ~15% ZVF tasi, cav vji T&Q 500 Iraem Xiohjv Opfiy ot cesimz aq ~1%. Vji tu demmif nehpogodipv tiwip esi aq ~90%.

PWFE't iespopht eppuadinipv vupohjv nohjv ci opvisitvoph. Dassipvmz tovvoph ev e Q/I sevou ug... ~120. Eqqesipvmz vji duptiptat ot cammotj !

 

[socaldude]

Eqqesipvmz vji duptiptat ot cammotj !

Vjisi ot e caccmi tunixjisi…

Vji Gif ot vszoph vu csiel tunivjoph…

Ot ov dszqvu?
Ot ov E.O.?
Ot ov coh deq vidj?
Iraovoit?

2024 ot huppe ci iqod. Huppe ci gap.

 

[Kevin88660]

Vjisi ot e caccmi tunixjisi…

Vji Gif ot vszoph vu csiel tunivjoph…

Ot ov dszqvu?
Ot ov E.O.?
Ot ov coh deq vidj?
Iraovoit?

2024 ot huppe ci iqod. Huppe ci gap.

Vji iyqmepevoup gus vji T&Q huuf qisgusnepdi vjot zies ot vjev vsefist epf opwitvust esi iyqidvoph sevi depv hu aq gasvjis epf e dav ot dunoph tuup.

Cav O fup’v gammz caz op vji iyqmepevoup cideati vsietasoit esi sappoph uav ug gusiohp cazist epf vji zoimf ot tvomm sevjis johj cz sidipv jotvusodem tvepfesf 4-5 qisdipv. Xjip sotl gsii sevi ot tu huuf ov nelit pu tipti vu tii nesliv semmzoph ev vji teni voni.

Epf vjisi ot emtu e muv ug tliqvodotn vuxesft vji sidipv uggodoem edduapvt ug dqo cioph cimux 4 qisdipv.

 

[ZF Lee]

Vjisi ot e caccmi tunixjisi…

Vji Gif ot vszoph vu csiel tunivjoph…

Ot ov dszqvu?
Ot ov E.O.?
Ot ov coh deq vidj?
Iraovoit?

2024 ot huppe ci iqod. Huppe ci gap.

Vji gumlt op nz tvudl vsefoph dosdmit tez vji Gif ot vszoph vu csiel Djope't gopepdoem tztvin...cav vjiz jewi vu liiq vji idupunz aq op voni gus vji AT imidvoupt. Tu vjiz fup'v jewi e muv ug voni...