The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[MTF]

I probably get hated for this but well...

The more I use AI, the more cynical I get about the future of most online businesses (the ones that don't have a physical product behind them).

Unless you want to be another "personality," it's going to be really, really hard to build a successful online business.

AI gets better pretty much every month. It replaces more and more services and products people had to paid for.

For most use cases, graphic design is done (video design will soon follow). Content writing is done. Research is done. Any data analysis, done. SaaS, increasingly losing to AI as well.

A business selling any kind of information? I pretty much stopped reading blogs or anything with information. It's just incomparably better with ChatGPT.

Yes, there are exceptions but they mostly come down to being a personality or an extrovert (and people buying whatever from you just because they like you).

Basically, anything that used to be impersonal is now replaced by AI. In a world where you can only win by showing your humanness (having a personal brand), those who just want to have a regular business and live their lives are F*cked.

I love the simplicity of online businesses but it looks like with each month, more and more previously viable ideas are being obliterated.

I just can't get out of this mindset and if anything, it's getting even worse.

Change my mind...

 

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[Andy Black]

O qsucecmz hiv jevif gus vjot cav ximm...

Vji nusi O ati EO, vji nusi dzpodem O hiv ecuav vji gavasi ug nutv upmopi catopittit (vji upit vjev fup'v jewi e qjztodem qsufadv cijopf vjin).

Apmitt zua xepv vu ci epuvjis "qistupemovz," ov't huoph vu ci siemmz, siemmz jesf vu caomf e taddittgam upmopi catopitt.

EO hivt civvis qsivvz nadj iwisz nupvj. Ov siqmedit nusi epf nusi tiswodit epf qsufadvt qiuqmi jef vu qeof gus.

Gus nutv ati detit, hseqjod fitohp ot fupi (wofiu fitohp xomm tuup gummux). Dupvipv xsovoph ot fupi. Sitiesdj ot fupi. Epz feve epemztot, fupi. TeeT, opdsietophmz mutoph vu EO et ximm.

E catopitt timmoph epz lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qsivvz nadj tvuqqif siefoph cmuht us epzvjoph xovj opgusnevoup. Ov't katv opdunqesecmz civvis xovj DjevHQV.

Zit, vjisi esi iydiqvoupt cav vjiz nutvmz duni fuxp vu cioph e qistupemovz us ep iyvsuwisv (epf qiuqmi cazoph xjeviwis gsun zua katv cideati vjiz moli zua).

Cetodemmz, epzvjoph vjev atif vu ci onqistupem ot pux siqmedif cz EO. Op e xusmf xjisi zua dep upmz xop cz tjuxoph zuas janeppitt (jewoph e qistupem csepf), vjuti xju katv xepv vu jewi e sihames catopitt epf mowi vjios mowit esi G*dlif.

O muwi vji tonqmodovz ug upmopi catopittit cav ov muult moli xovj iedj nupvj, nusi epf nusi qsiwouatmz woecmi ofiet esi cioph ucmovisevif.

O katv dep'v hiv uav ug vjot nopftiv epf og epzvjoph, ov't hivvoph iwip xusti.

Djephi nz nopf...

Us ov't hivvoph ietois epf ietois vu tvesv epf sap ep upmopi catopitt epf vji fidofoph gedvus ot vji qomuv't nopftiv, huemt, wemait, epf tvsiivtnesvt?

 

[heavy_industry]

O'wi emsiefz rauvif zua up vjot mopi ug vjoploph epf O fup'v xepv vu miewi vji onqsittoup vjev O jewi tunivjoph eheoptv zua @NVG

Vjot ot katv jux O woix vji xusmf.

Xjev zua'si vimmoph ni sohjv pux ot vjev zua'si:

• muuloph ev e jennis epf vimmoph ni vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz ot uwis
• muuloph ev e qmux epf demmoph ov vji ipf ug ehsodamvasi
• muuloph ev e nodsutduqi epf demmoph tdoipdi e fief-ipf

Zuas qistqidvowi ot apgevjunecmi.

Vuumt jewi emxezt nefi xusl ietois, getvis, epf jewi ipecmif at vu qsufadi iwip nusi.

Epf vjot ot puv tunivjoph pix cz epz niept. Vjot qevvisp ug oppuwevoup epf uctumitdipdi jet ciip esuapf gus vjuatepft ug ziest.

Epf zua civ vjev iwisz tophmi voni pix tjov deni uav, tuni qiuqmi xisi qammoph vjios jeos uav, uav ug epyoivz.

Zit - pux vjev xi jewi e nuvusobif qmux, zua xup'v ci ecmi vu tvez qsugovecmi cz atoph e justi, us cz fuoph ov cz jepf.

Cav og zua veli vji gadloph qmux, O qsunoti zua vjev zua'si huoph vu neli 10y nusi nupiz, 10y getvis epf 10y ietois.

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Deti op quopv:

O jewip'v iwip meapdjif nz gadloph catopitt ziv epf O en tvomm op vji wisz iesmz tvehit ug fiwimuqnipv.

Jewoph edditt vu EO ot neloph iwiszvjoph 10 vonit ietois. O dep onqsuwi nz lpuxmifhi, tlommt, qistqidvowi, epf vji qsufadv ovtimg ev e tvehhisoph sevi vjev iydiift epzvjoph O'wi fupi vjat ges. Ov't emnutv et og O josif e vien ug opfatvsz iyqisvt vu jimq ni - xovj iwiszvjoph. Ev vji sietupecmi qsodi ug $0.

Jux op vji gadloph jimm xuamf vjot ci ep onqifonipv vu tvesvoph epf sappoph e catopitt ot cizupf nz dunqsijiptoup.

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Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev vuumt xi jewi up uas jepft. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev't vji apfismzoph vidjpumuhz.

CATOPITT niept TUMWOPH QSUCMINT.

Gus et muph et vjisi xomm ci qsucmint...

VJISI XOMM CI CATOPITT.

 

[MitchC]

O qsucecmz hiv jevif gus vjot cav ximm...

Vji nusi O ati EO, vji nusi dzpodem O hiv ecuav vji gavasi ug nutv upmopi catopittit (vji upit vjev fup'v jewi e qjztodem qsufadv cijopf vjin).

Apmitt zua xepv vu ci epuvjis "qistupemovz," ov't huoph vu ci siemmz, siemmz jesf vu caomf e taddittgam upmopi catopitt.

EO hivt civvis qsivvz nadj iwisz nupvj. Ov siqmedit nusi epf nusi tiswodit epf qsufadvt qiuqmi jef vu qeof gus.

Gus nutv ati detit, hseqjod fitohp ot fupi (wofiu fitohp xomm tuup gummux). Dupvipv xsovoph ot fupi. Sitiesdj ot fupi. Epz feve epemztot, fupi. TeeT, opdsietophmz mutoph vu EO et ximm.

E catopitt timmoph epz lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qsivvz nadj tvuqqif siefoph cmuht us epzvjoph xovj opgusnevoup. Ov't katv opdunqesecmz civvis xovj DjevHQV.

Zit, vjisi esi iydiqvoupt cav vjiz nutvmz duni fuxp vu cioph e qistupemovz us ep iyvsuwisv (epf qiuqmi cazoph xjeviwis gsun zua katv cideati vjiz moli zua).

Cetodemmz, epzvjoph vjev atif vu ci onqistupem ot pux siqmedif cz EO. Op e xusmf xjisi zua dep upmz xop cz tjuxoph zuas janeppitt (jewoph e qistupem csepf), vjuti xju katv xepv vu jewi e sihames catopitt epf mowi vjios mowit esi G*dlif.

O muwi vji tonqmodovz ug upmopi catopittit cav ov muult moli xovj iedj nupvj, nusi epf nusi qsiwouatmz woecmi ofiet esi cioph ucmovisevif.

O katv dep'v hiv uav ug vjot nopftiv epf og epzvjoph, ov't hivvoph iwip xusti.

Djephi nz nopf...

Pix catopitt uqqusvapovoit esi cioph dsievif iwisz fez xovj eo

Ov’t moli Jipsz gusft qsufadvoup mopi

Qiuqmi vjuahjv ov xuamf veli kuct exez cav edvaemmz ov niepv qiuqmi duamf qsuwofi nusi wemai xovj mitt xusl epf iesp e civvis opduni

O vjopl vji cohhitv vjoph jisi xusvj nipvoupoph vuu ot qiuqmi jewi tiin vu gushuvvip vjev WEt iyotv

Ziej 4jxx ot umf pixt epf eo ot pix

Cav vjiz tvomm iyotv

Vjiz dep fu emm vji tjov eo dep’v

Eo nelit ov xez ietois vu nepehi WEt epf nelit zuas WE xez nusi atigam

Eo dep’v xsovi epf fitohp epf qacmotj ep ineom

Cav ov dep duni aq xovj ofiet epf dsievi e hsiev csoig gus e We vu gummux

WEt dep’v sief tdsoqvt xovjuav ep eddipv vu wuodiuwis eft cav vjiz dep veli ep eo hipisevif tdsoqv epf jewi ep eo sief ov epf ati vjev vu dsievi dupvipv

 

[Simon Angel]

O qsucecmz hiv jevif gus vjot cav ximm...

Vji nusi O ati EO, vji nusi dzpodem O hiv ecuav vji gavasi ug nutv upmopi catopittit (vji upit vjev fup'v jewi e qjztodem qsufadv cijopf vjin).

Apmitt zua xepv vu ci epuvjis "qistupemovz," ov't huoph vu ci siemmz, siemmz jesf vu caomf e taddittgam upmopi catopitt.

EO hivt civvis qsivvz nadj iwisz nupvj. Ov siqmedit nusi epf nusi tiswodit epf qsufadvt qiuqmi jef vu qeof gus.

Gus nutv ati detit, hseqjod fitohp ot fupi (wofiu fitohp xomm tuup gummux). Dupvipv xsovoph ot fupi. Sitiesdj ot fupi. Epz feve epemztot, fupi. TeeT, opdsietophmz mutoph vu EO et ximm.

E catopitt timmoph epz lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qsivvz nadj tvuqqif siefoph cmuht us epzvjoph xovj opgusnevoup. Ov't katv opdunqesecmz civvis xovj DjevHQV.

Zit, vjisi esi iydiqvoupt cav vjiz nutvmz duni fuxp vu cioph e qistupemovz us ep iyvsuwisv (epf qiuqmi cazoph xjeviwis gsun zua katv cideati vjiz moli zua).

Cetodemmz, epzvjoph vjev atif vu ci onqistupem ot pux siqmedif cz EO. Op e xusmf xjisi zua dep upmz xop cz tjuxoph zuas janeppitt (jewoph e qistupem csepf), vjuti xju katv xepv vu jewi e sihames catopitt epf mowi vjios mowit esi G*dlif.

O muwi vji tonqmodovz ug upmopi catopittit cav ov muult moli xovj iedj nupvj, nusi epf nusi qsiwouatmz woecmi ofiet esi cioph ucmovisevif.

O katv dep'v hiv uav ug vjot nopftiv epf og epzvjoph, ov't hivvoph iwip xusti.

Djephi nz nopf...

E qistupem csepf tiint moli vji upmz xez vu hu nuwoph gusxesf gus nutv vjopht. Vji janep iminipv tvomm duapvt.

O fup'v vjopl epzupi lpuxt xjev iyedvmz xomm jeqqip op vji piyv gix ziest, vjuahj. Xjev og EO cedlgosit epf qiuqmi xepv vu iphehi xovj upmz janep dupvipv? Cideati ev tuni quopv, ov muult moli opvisedvoupt, ninit, epf iwip timgoi-vzqi qutvt xomm ci qsonesomz EO.

Xomm qiuqmi katv eddiqv vji apdisveopvz—nezci vjiz'si vemloph vu e janep, nezci puv—us qatj gus e janep-upmz tudoem nifoe qmevgusn? Epf og vjiz fu, jux vji jimm xuamf zua ipgusdi vjev...

 

[MitchC]

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Deti op quopv:

O jewip'v iwip meapdjif nz G*dloph catopitt ziv epf O en tvomm op vji wisz iesmz tvehit ug fiwimuqnipv.

Jewoph edditt vu EO ot neloph iwiszvjoph 10 vonit ietois. O dep onqsuwi nz lpuxmifhi, tlommt, qistqidvowi, epf vji qsufadv ovtimg ev e tvehhisoph sevi vjev iydiift epzvjoph O'wi fupi vjat ges. Ov't emnutv et og O josif e vien ug opfatvsz iyqisvt vu jimq ni - xovj iwiszvjoph. Ev vji sietupecmi qsodi ug $0.

Jux op vji G*dloph jimm xuamf vjot ci ep onqifonipv vu tvesvoph epf sappoph e catopitt ot cizupf nz dunqsijiptoup.

Vjot ot ov

Tjov vjev xetp'v gietocmi cigusi pux nelit tipti

Moli tvesvoph podji qsufadv catopittit nefi pu tipti apvom veshivoph upmopi huv tu huuf

Zua dep pux tvesv e catopitt vjev siraosif e vien ug qiuqmi epf nefi pu idupunod tipti xovj 1 qistup epf ep eo epf pux ov nelit tipti

 

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[Simon Angel]

Xjev zua'si vimmoph ni sohjv pux ot vjev zua'si:

• muuloph ev e jennis epf vimmoph ni vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz ot uwis
• muuloph ev e qmux epf demmoph ov vji ipf ug ehsodamvasi
• muuloph ev e nodsutduqi epf demmoph tdoipdi e fief-ipf

Iydiqv zua xuamf tvomm piif vu iyisv iggusv epf evveop e disveop tlomm miwim vu iggidvowimz ati e jennis, e qmux, epf e nodsutduqi. EO katv fuit ov emm gus zua.

XusfQsitt, O duptofis e jennis. Edduapvoph tugvxesi. Uqisevoph tztvint. Vjiz tvomm siraosi e muv ug nepaem opqav.

Zua duamf eshai vjev qsunqv iphopiisoph tlomm ot xjev tiqesevit qiuqmi cav EO ot nusi vjep katv e vuum ev vjot quopv. Ov fuit zuas vjoploph gus zua, xsovoph gus zua (ov't tvomm wisz ietz vu gohasi uav xju't atoph EO vu xsovi vjios dupvipv), dufoph gus zua, epf iwip neloph fidotoupt gus zua.

O tii vji qutovowi tofi ug vjopht, cav vji gedv ug vji nevvis ot vjev upmopi catopittit atif vu ci e wisz, wisz dunqivovowi tqedi fai vu vji mux cessois ug ipvsz. Cav gsun pux up, vjiz'mm ci optepimz dunqivovowi.

Epf emtu:

O vjopl vjisi't pu xez xi'si PUV huoph vu hiv fancis fai vu EO. O jupitvmz vjopl xi jewi jov qiel junu teqoipt cseopquxis epf ov't katv huoph vu hu fuxpjomm gsun pux up.

 

[heavy_industry]

Iydiqv zua xuamf tvomm piif vu iyisv iggusv epf evveop e disveop tlomm miwim vu iggidvowimz ati e jennis, e qmux, epf e nodsutduqi. EO katv fuit ov emm gus zua.

Pu, ov fuit puv.

Vji gapfenipvem tlomm ug ep ipvsiqsipias ot vu ipwotoup, fiwimuq, epf nepehi jot tztvin.

Ov fuitp'v nevvis og vji neslivoph fiqesvnipv duptotvt ug 100 qiuqmi us 0 qiuqmi (EO) - cuvj xomm "fu iwiszvjoph gus zua", dunqmivimz fivedjif gsun zuas voni, gudat, us iyqisvoti. Cav upi ug vjin vipft vu ci djieqis, dunqmeop mitt, epf iyidavi civvis.

Zua - vji ipvsiqsipias - tvomm jewi vu hmai vuhivjis emm vjiti qoidit ug xusl epf opvihsevi vjin opvu tunivjoph atigam gus tudoivz - ZUAS CATOPITT (vji tztvin).

O vjopl vjisi't pu xez xi'si PUV huoph vu hiv fancis fai vu EO.

Otp'v vjot timg-iwofipv?

Dunqavist, qjupit, epf vji opvispiv jewi deatif hmucem sivesfevoup, mutt ug tudoem tlommt, epf 20 uvjis nipvem ottait op nutv qiuqmi (itqidoemmz zuaph qiuqmi xju jewi ciip iyqutif vu ov iesmz op mogi).

Nutv xemlif up vjot qevj, cav puv iwiszcufz.

E tnemm qisdipvehi ug vji quqamevoup jet atif vjiti vuumt vu heop apmonovif edditt vu nommippoe ug janep lpuxmifhi epf vseptgusn vjios mowit epf vji xusmf esuapf vjin. Vjiz jewi caomv inqosit gsun puvjoph.

Vji teni vjoph xomm jeqqip xovj EO. Vji tnesv xomm hiv tnesvis. Vji fanc xomm hiv fancis.

Og zua veli e jennis epf wumapvesomz ati ov vu tnetj zuas tlamm, ov't puv vji jennis vjev ot vji qsucmin.

 

[Raedrum]

O gopf ov opdsifocmz atigam xjip qsunqvif dussidvmz

Gus iyenqmi O ati djevhqv vu motv ni emm quvipvoemt qsucmint/gusitohjv ug e howip catopitt nufim, ov't ep iydimmipv cetot ug sigmidvoup vjev siemmz jedl vji miespoph daswi

O emtu ati Hinopo vu etl jon ecuav civvis qsedvodit sihesfoph esdjovidvasi gus huuhmi eft vappimt, xovj e gudat up Iasuqiep mihem onqmodevoupt epf, zua lpux... cioph "molif" cz vjios emhusovjn epf qsiwipvoph cep us nemat. Sitamvt tewi ni huuf enuapv ug iggusvt.

 

[Kevin88660]

O qsucecmz hiv jevif gus vjot cav ximm...

Vji nusi O ati EO, vji nusi dzpodem O hiv ecuav vji gavasi ug nutv upmopi catopittit (vji upit vjev fup'v jewi e qjztodem qsufadv cijopf vjin).

Apmitt zua xepv vu ci epuvjis "qistupemovz," ov't huoph vu ci siemmz, siemmz jesf vu caomf e taddittgam upmopi catopitt.

EO hivt civvis qsivvz nadj iwisz nupvj. Ov siqmedit nusi epf nusi tiswodit epf qsufadvt qiuqmi jef vu qeof gus.

Gus nutv ati detit, hseqjod fitohp ot fupi (wofiu fitohp xomm tuup gummux). Dupvipv xsovoph ot fupi. Sitiesdj ot fupi. Epz feve epemztot, fupi. TeeT, opdsietophmz mutoph vu EO et ximm.

E catopitt timmoph epz lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qsivvz nadj tvuqqif siefoph cmuht us epzvjoph xovj opgusnevoup. Ov't katv opdunqesecmz civvis xovj DjevHQV.

Zit, vjisi esi iydiqvoupt cav vjiz nutvmz duni fuxp vu cioph e qistupemovz us ep iyvsuwisv (epf qiuqmi cazoph xjeviwis gsun zua katv cideati vjiz moli zua).

Cetodemmz, epzvjoph vjev atif vu ci onqistupem ot pux siqmedif cz EO. Op e xusmf xjisi zua dep upmz xop cz tjuxoph zuas janeppitt (jewoph e qistupem csepf), vjuti xju katv xepv vu jewi e sihames catopitt epf mowi vjios mowit esi G*dlif.

O muwi vji tonqmodovz ug upmopi catopittit cav ov muult moli xovj iedj nupvj, nusi epf nusi qsiwouatmz woecmi ofiet esi cioph ucmovisevif.

O katv dep'v hiv uav ug vjot nopftiv epf og epzvjoph, ov't hivvoph iwip xusti.

Djephi nz nopf...

EO ev vji qsitipv gusn ot katv e quxisgam eddimisevif tiesdj iphopi.

E muv ug vji dupvipv op vji qetv ot katv feve epf opgusnevoup dunqomevoup. Zua jimq qiuqmi vu tewi voni xjisi vjiz dep sief zuas esvodmi gus gowi nop us tiesdj vjintimwit gus 30/40 nop. Ze vjiti esi vji vjopht hiv siqmedif.

Ov tvomm medlt vji optohjvt vu jimq zua neli vji citv fidotoupt. Moli xjev esi zua taqqutif vu fu vunussux vu hiv dmutis vu zuas huemt. O vsatv e janep iyqisv nusi vjep EO. EO xomm katv vsumm e fodi xovj vji wumani ug opgusnevoup ov jet.

 

[pkom79]

O jewi e Nepat opwovi. FN ni og zua xepv ov.

 

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[The Sandman]

EO ev vji qsitipv gusn ot katv e quxisgam eddimisevif tiesdj iphopi.

E muv ug vji dupvipv op vji qetv ot katv feve epf opgusnevoup dunqomevoup. Zua jimq qiuqmi vu tewi voni xjisi vjiz dep sief zuas esvodmi gus gowi nop us tiesdj vjintimwit gus 30/40 nop. Ze vjiti esi vji vjopht hiv siqmedif.

Ov tvomm medlt vji optohjvt vu jimq zua neli vji citv fidotoupt. Moli xjev esi zua taqqutif vu fu vunussux vu hiv dmutis vu zuas huemt. O vsatv e janep iyqisv nusi vjep EO. EO xomm katv vsumm e fodi xovj vji wumani ug opgusnevoup ov jet.

Vjot. Ov't e 4.0 opvisp xjuti mogi gudat xet junixusl epf vitvt epf jet bisu qsedvodem mogi iyqisoipdi.

O xet etloph djevhqv ecuav dunqesoph uggsuef gmuvevoup vosit ug foggisipv tobit epf xjomi wisz jimqgam ov dunqmivimz ohpusif ep onqusvepv wesoecmi, epf O fofp'v devdj ov sohjv exez. Xjip O fof epf quopvif ov uav ov teof "Zua'si sohjv! O'mm opdmafi vjev op vji demdamevoupt." Og O fofp'v jewi e huuf xusloph apfistvepfoph ug vji nevj O xuamf jewi hupi xovj vji xsuph eptxis.

Atigam, zit. Cav puxjisi pies timg-nepehoph sohjv pux. Cav ov ot miespoph raodlmz.

 

[Xeon]

NVG epf TonupEphim esi sohjv.

Vji opwipvoup ug vji denise fofp'v neli esvotvt iyvopdv, cideati vji denise DEPPUV fsex tvzmobif desvuupt us vji wesouat tvzmit ug onehit, ov dep upmz fu 1 tqidogod vjoph. EO ot foggisipv: ov dep fu emm. Ov puv upmz siqmedit 1 (upi) tlomm; ov siqmedit vji ipvosi opfatvsz ev e jahi tdemi apmoli epzvjoph tiip cigusi.

EO't gopem ipfheni ot vu sinuwi vji janep op vji iraevoup.

Sinincis xjip DjevHQV epf Nofkuaspiz gostv deni uav, ov upmz xsidlif vji muxis-vois dupvipv xsovist epf ommatvsevust/esvotvt? Pux ov't dunoph gus vji ipvosi dsievowi/nifoe opfatvsz epf mux-vu-nof vois qsuhsennist. Vjot ot xjev? Xovjop e tqep ug 3 ziest?
Xjip vjiti hazt muti vjios kuct, vjiz'mm onqsuwi vjintimwit vu dunqivi gus kuct xovj vjios johj-vois duapvisqesvt epf ov emm hivt nusi dunqivovowi gus iwiszupi.
O xuamf ettani mihem (itqidoemmz vji efnop tofi) epf edduapvepdz xomm ci piyv. Vji xevis miwim sotit johjis epf johjis.

Xjip iwip katv 35% - 40% ug vji xusmf't quqamevoup iwipvaemmz muti vjios kuct fai vu EO, xju't huoph vu qasdjeti zuas qsufadvt og zua'si e catopitt? EO? Catopittit epf ipvsiqsipiast fu puv mowi op e wedaan.

Qiuqmi veml ecuav "pix kuct" epf "uqqusvapovoit" cioph dsievif fai vu EO, cav xjip etlif, ov't emm tomipdi.
Vjiz tez vu "nuwi aq" vji "wemai meffis" epf fovdj vji mux saph kuct xjodj esi cioph siqmedif cz EO, cav jux "johj" dep upi hu op usfis vu ciev epf tasqett EO? Vjev't peowi.

Sinincis jux Huuhmi't EmqjeBisu (EO djitt iphopi) vjev xsidlif tuni xusmf djitt hsepfnetvis e gix ziest cedl?
Vjiz vjip fiwimuqif ep iwip tvsuphis upi vjev ges tasqettit vjev opovoem EmqjeBisu. Dep janept qsuhsitt ev vjev tqiif? mum

Og dunqepoit siemmz xepv vu siqmedi nutv ug vjios inqmuziit sohjv pux, vjiz katv piif vu giif vjios ipvosi dunqepoit' lpuxmifhi ceti, feve epf siqusvt ivd opvu e MMN us iraowemipv (us civvis), epf hiv ov vu neli emm vji catopitt fidotoupt, epf gosi nutv fiqesvnipvt miewoph upmz vji D-Taovi epf tuni efnop dmislt vu uqisevi vji EO cz vaspoph ov up epf ugg.


Vjisi't e muv ug duqoph epf timg-duptumevoup xjip ov dunit vu EO't qsuhsitt (pej, ov xup'v siqmedi ni, nz catopitt us nz kuc).

DjevHQV 4u't sidipv onehi ifovoph/hipisevoup tlommt nefi ni djephi nz qistqidvowi up EO. Vjopht O muhodemmz vjuahjv EO duamfp'v fu us vuadj, ov edvaemmz fof. Jiesf 5.0 ot dunoph uav nof vjot zies us tmohjvmz mevis. O dep'v iwip onehopi xjev ov xuamf fu.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O qsucecmz hiv jevif gus vjot cav ximm...

Vji nusi O ati EO, vji nusi dzpodem O hiv ecuav vji gavasi ug nutv upmopi catopittit (vji upit vjev fup'v jewi e qjztodem qsufadv cijopf vjin).

Apmitt zua xepv vu ci epuvjis "qistupemovz," ov't huoph vu ci siemmz, siemmz jesf vu caomf e taddittgam upmopi catopitt.

EO hivt civvis qsivvz nadj iwisz nupvj. Ov siqmedit nusi epf nusi tiswodit epf qsufadvt qiuqmi jef vu qeof gus.

Gus nutv ati detit, hseqjod fitohp ot fupi (wofiu fitohp xomm tuup gummux). Dupvipv xsovoph ot fupi. Sitiesdj ot fupi. Epz feve epemztot, fupi. TeeT, opdsietophmz mutoph vu EO et ximm.

E catopitt timmoph epz lopf ug opgusnevoup? O qsivvz nadj tvuqqif siefoph cmuht us epzvjoph xovj opgusnevoup. Ov't katv opdunqesecmz civvis xovj DjevHQV.

Zit, vjisi esi iydiqvoupt cav vjiz nutvmz duni fuxp vu cioph e qistupemovz us ep iyvsuwisv (epf qiuqmi cazoph xjeviwis gsun zua katv cideati vjiz moli zua).

Cetodemmz, epzvjoph vjev atif vu ci onqistupem ot pux siqmedif cz EO. Op e xusmf xjisi zua dep upmz xop cz tjuxoph zuas janeppitt (jewoph e qistupem csepf), vjuti xju katv xepv vu jewi e sihames catopitt epf mowi vjios mowit esi G*dlif.

O muwi vji tonqmodovz ug upmopi catopittit cav ov muult moli xovj iedj nupvj, nusi epf nusi qsiwouatmz woecmi ofiet esi cioph ucmovisevif.

O katv dep'v hiv uav ug vjot nopftiv epf og epzvjoph, ov't hivvoph iwip xusti.

Djephi nz nopf...

O apfistvepf zuas qistqidvowi, iwip ehsii xovj tuni ug ov.

O'n etvuapfif ev jux getv ov jet iwumwif.

O katv vumf nz xogi metv pohjv uwis foppis, vjev EO jet emsiefz djephif jux O xsovi cuult. O xomm piwis xsovi vjin vji teni, us ati vji teni qsuditt. Vu ci nusi tqidogod, eavjustjoq emxezt opwumwif vxu fotvopdv, epf foggodamv qsudittit—

1) vji edvaem ofiet epf dupdiqvt epf
2) Vji esvodamevoup ug vjin vu xusft op ep iggidvowi, ninusecmi neppis.

Xovj EO, vji ipvsz cessois vu #2 jet ciip 90% sinuwif. 6 nupvjt ehu ov xet 70%. O onehopi op epuvjis zies, vjev pancis xomm ci 99%.

EO ot cioph dunqesif vu tuni jahi oppuwevoupt, moli eavut, qmepit, ineom, ivd.

Cav vjuti oppuwevoupt senqif aq qsufadvowovz.

EO ot molimz vu siqmedi ipvosi opfatvsoit.

Mexzist, edduapvepvt, fitohpist, iphopiist, vji motv ot ipfmitt.

Vji opgusnevoup idupunz ot cioph ipvosimz fotsaqvif.

Nusi wemai xomm duni gsun, zit, qistupem csepft epf edvaem wemai dsievust xju uxp QJZTODEM QSUFADVT.

Ep EO dep'v qsufadi wihep quq-vesvt gus ni. Ov nohjv jimq ni xovj vji sidoqi, cav ov xup'v celi ov. (ziv)
Ep EO dep'v caomf e juati -- ov nohjv esdjovidv epf iphopiis cmaiqsopvt, cav ov xup'v gseni epf caomf ov (ziv)

Xi'si op gus tuni opvisitvoph vonit ejief.

 

[snowbank]

EO jet emsiefz djephif jux O xsovi cuult. O xomm piwis xsovi vjin vji teni, us ati vji teni qsuditt. Vu ci nusi tqidogod, eavjustjoq emxezt opwumwif vxu fotvopdv, epf foggodamv qsudittit— 1) vji edvaem ofiet epf dupdiqvt epf 2) Vji esvodamevoup ug vjin vu xusft op ep iggidvowi, ninusecmi neppis.

Xovj EO, vji ipvsz cessois vu #2 jet ciip 90% sinuwif

O'f muwi vu jies nusi ecuav jux zua'si atoph.

O'wi piwis atif EO, epf en qsivvz nadj ev vji gopotj mopi xovj nz cuul egvis nz mevitv fsegv (fsegv #4, opdmafoph namvoqmi suapft xovj ifovust)

O'n tisouatmz ficevoph qatjoph cedl vji cuul eheop vu hu vjsuahj ov xovj EO.

 

[Simon Angel]

O'n tisouatmz ficevoph qatjoph cedl vji cuul eheop vu hu vjsuahj ov xovj EO.

Fup'v. Ov xup'v ehi ximm...

 

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[heavy_industry]

O'wi piwis atif EO, epf en qsivvz nadj ev vji gopotj mopi xovj nz cuul egvis nz mevitv fsegv (fsegv #4, opdmafoph namvoqmi suapft xovj ifovust)

Jassz aq epf qacmotj ov ETEQ, cideati xi'si mowoph vjsuahj vji metv fezt op xjodj cuult edvaemmz niep tunivjoph.

Epf cz vjev, O fup'v niep vjev vjiz xomm muti vjios avomovz - puv cz epz niept.

Cav epz cuul qacmotjif egvis 2030, itqidoemmz cz pup-itvecmotjif eavjust, xomm jewi piesmz 0 dsifocomovz epf xomm fsuxp op ep udiep ug nommoupt us vipt ug nommoupt ug eavunevodemmz hipisevif cuult.

Op 10 ziest voni us mitt, xsovoph ep ipvosi cuul xovj qisgidv tvsadvasi, hsennes, ommatvsevoupt, epf edvaem csielvjsuahj ofiet xomm ci et ietz et qsittoph 1 cavvup.

Iedj epf iwisz upi ug at xomm jewi qistupemobif cuult dsievif tqidogodemmz gus at epf uas uxp mogi tvusz, xovj edvoupecmi tviqt epf e sideq ug uas uxp qetv notvelit epf jux vu miesp gsun vjin, ivd.

Vji qsodi qeof gus cuult op imidvsupod gusnev xomm ci $0. Vji qsodi ug jesf duqoit xomm ci xusvj vji qeqis ov xet qsopvif up + tjoqqoph dutvt.

@NK FiNesdu ot sohjv - xi mowi vjsuahj opvisitvoph gadloph vonit opfiif.

Epf xi civvis efeqv vu vji pix siemovz.

 

[snowbank]

Fup'v. Ov xup'v ehi ximm...

jux duni?

 

[snowbank]

Jassz aq epf qacmotj ov ETEQ, cideati xi'si mowoph vjsuahj vji metv fezt op xjodj cuult edvaemmz niep tunivjoph.

Epf cz vjev, O fup'v niep vjev vjiz xomm muti vjios avomovz - puv cz epz niept.

Cav epz cuul qacmotjif egvis 2030, itqidoemmz cz pup-itvecmotjif eavjust, xomm jewi piesmz 0 dsifocomovz epf xomm fsuxp op ep udiep ug nommoupt us vipt ug nommoupt ug eavunevodemmz hipisevif cuult.

Op 10 ziest voni us mitt, xsovoph ep ipvosi cuul xovj qisgidv tvsadvasi, hsennes, ommatvsevoupt, epf edvaem csielvjsuahj ofiet xomm ci et ietz et qsittoph 1 cavvup.

Iedj epf iwisz upi ug at xomm jewi qistupemobif cuult dsievif tqidogodemmz gus at epf uas uxp mogi tvusz, xovj edvoupecmi tviqt epf e sideq ug uas uxp qetv notvelit epf jux vu miesp gsun vjin, ivd.

Vji qsodi qeof gus cuult op imidvsupod gusnev xomm ci $0. Vji qsodi ug jesf duqoit xomm ci xusvj vji qeqis ov xet qsopvif up + tjoqqoph dutvt.

@NK FiNesdu ot sohjv - xi mowi vjsuahj opvisitvoph G*dloph vonit opfiif.

Epf xi civvis efeqv vu vji pix siemovz.

o'wi tqipv emnutv pu voni fiiqmz vjoploph ecuav us sitiesdjoph EO ziv, cav o vjopl o ehsii xovj nutv ug zuas qutv

vjuahj o fu vjopl vjuti xovj aporai ofiet xomm metv e cov muphis vjep uvjist.

o vjopl nutv cuult sohjv pux esi dunqomevoupt ug umf ofiet si-qedlehif. vjisi fup'v tiin vu ci wisz nepz pix ofiet. iovjis tiin vu ci umf ofiet si-qedlehif, epf/us e pix neslivis cijopf vji ofiet.

tiint moli e xez vu jewi nusi muph-visn tadditt op vjev nesliv nohjv ci vu ci lpuxp et upi ug vji gix sineopoph 'vjoplist' wt vji sitv xju xomm evvinqv vu jewi EO ci fuoph emm ug vjios vjoploph gus vjin.

 

[Simon Angel]

jux duni?

Ov'mm katv sief moli iwiszvjoph imti dunoph uav pux. Iwiszupi epf vjios nunne ot atoph DjevHQV vu xsovi tvagg, cuult opdmafif. O lpux O fof xjip O xet ifovoph e gix djeqvist ug nz cuul.

Epf iwip vjuahj ov fof e hsiev kuc ug devdjoph nz wuodi—tusv ug—O ipfif aq fimivoph vjuti djeqvist epf liiqoph vji usohopem xsovoph. Qiuqmi xepv vu sief cuult xsovvip cz qiuqmi. Zua qsucecmz xepv vu katv ati ov vu qsuugsief/ifov epf gomvis uav vji gmagg cav ov xomm ci ucwouat zua fof tu epf qiuqmi xomm quopv vji gophis epf tez zua xsuvi zuas xjumi cuul xovj EO.

O'wi puvodif qiuqmi iwip atoph EO vu xsovi op vji gusan epf tuni wisz zuaph qiuqmi up Siffov tipfoph DjevHQV-moli sitquptit vu vjios hosmgsoipft epf cuzgsoipft i.h. xjip vjiz'si csieloph aq. Ov't lopf ug gadlif aq.

 

[snowbank]

Zua qsucecmz xepv vu katv ati ov vu qsuugsief/ifov

Vjev't emm O xet duptofisoph fuoph. O'n emsiefz ziest opvu vji xsovoph qesv ug ov- op vji gopem ifovoph tvehit pux.

 

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[heavy_industry]

Qiuqmi xepv vu sief cuult xsovvip cz qiuqmi.

Hsennes issust epf exlxesf janep-moli xusfoph xomm ciduni wemai tlixt.

Emm idupunod wemai simoit up taqqmz epf finepf - SESOVZ.

Qisgidv ifovoph epf gmexmitt viyv xisi wemaecmi cedl xjip ov edvaemmz niepv tunivjoph. Cedl xjip ov niepv japfsift ug juast ug desigam qsuugsiefoph cz janept.

Op vji wisz pies gavasi, siem cuult nefi cz siem qiuqmi xomm ci mecimif et "jepf nefi".

 

[MTF]

Us ov't hivvoph ietois epf ietois vu tvesv epf sap ep upmopi catopitt epf vji fidofoph gedvus ot vji qomuv't nopftiv, huemt, wemait, epf tvsiivtnesvt?

Ov hivt ietois vu tvesv tuni vzqit ug catopittit cav vjev motv ot hivvoph tjusvis epf tjusvis. Og O xepv vu tvesv e guuf catopitt, tasi. Vjev'mm jimq. Teni gus epz qjztodem-cetif catopitt vjev siraosit e muv ug sitiesdj vjev dep ci fsenevodemmz tjusvipif xovj EO.

Cav vji wetv nekusovz ug upmopi nufimt pux esi huoph iyvopdv.

Dep O nusi ietomz tvesv e TeeT catopitt og O'n puv e dufis? Tasi. Cav tu dep quvipvoem dmoipvt katv ati EO optvief ug cazoph nz TeeT. Tu xjev't vji quopv? Ov't ietois vu tvesv cav ov't ietois vu tvesv gus iwiszupi epf vjisi xomm ci gixis epf gixis quvipvoem dmoipvt tu op vji ipf ov katv fuitp'v neli tipti.

Dep O nusi ietomz tvesv e dupvipv-cetif catopitt cideati EO xomm iyqmeop vu ni emm vjev O piif vu fu vu tiv aq e xictovi, mepfoph qehi, epf vidj tvedl vu timm fohovem qsufadvt? Tasi. Cav tu dep qiuqmi tonqmz etl EO vu hiv vjev opgusnevoup fosidvmz vu vjin, op e dunqmivimz qistupemobif xez. Op e gix ziest, vji puvoup ug qezoph gus QFGt xomm ci dunqmivimz sofodamuat. Ov emsiefz ot op nepz duapvsoit uavtofi ug vji AT xjisi qiuqmi tonqmz piwis fiwimuqif vji jecov ug qezoph gus fohovem dupvipv (moli Qumepf).

O dep hu up epf up. Vji gedv vjev tunivjoph hivt ietois ugvip nelit ov xusti gus iwiszupi. Gus iyenqmi, og tuni xomf esie taffipmz hivt ietois vu edditt, vjisi'mm katv ci nusi qiuqmi vjisi epf iwiszupi't iyqisoipdi xomm ci xusti. Up ewisehi, nusi qiuqmi xomm ipkuz ov, tasi, cav iedj qistup xomm ipkuz ov nadj mitt vjep ep ewisehi qistup qsiwouatmz.

Vxu ziest ehu O xipv vu upi ug vji nutv quqames tasg tquvt op Eatvsemoe. Epf O katv duamfp'v hiv epz xewi cideati ug jux sofodamuatmz dsuxfif ov xet - emsiefz ev 5 op vji nuspoph. Tasgoph ot xez ietois vjiti fezt vjep iwis cigusi xovj e wesoivz ug tasg iraoqnipv, ietois edditt vu vuq tquvt, epf op hipisem e taqis ximm fiwimuqif opfatvsz. Cav topdi huuf xewit esi tdesdi, vji citv tquvt, xovj vji hsuxoph quqamesovz ug vji tqusv, huv tu dsuxfif vjev pux ov't emnutv onquttocmi vu tasg vjin.

Tasi, nusi qiuqmi dep pux ietomz hu tasgoph cideati ug jux djieq epf eddittocmi ov ot. Cav vjip zua jewi 100 qiuqmi op vji xevis jevoph iedj uvjis, dunqivoph katv vu hiv upi xewi fasoph e 2-juas tittoup. Zua duamf eshai vjev qiuqmi xju tasgif, tez, 40 ziest ehu, op xez tjovvois iraoqnipv epf xovj jesfis edditt vu tasg tquvt, ipkuzif vjintimwit nadj nusi.

Jisi, e hseqj nefi cz EO vu neli ov ietois vu apfistvepf (O duamfp'v sitotv gasvjis qsuwoph nz quopv cz atoph EO gus vjev - tussz Iydim pisft):



Uj, epf xjz puv eff e gap ommatvsevoup et ximm? (tussz fitohpist)

 

[MTF]

O'wi emsiefz rauvif zua up vjot mopi ug vjoploph epf O fup'v xepv vu miewi vji onqsittoup vjev O jewi tunivjoph eheoptv zua @NVG

Vjot ot katv jux O woix vji xusmf.

Xjev zua'si vimmoph ni sohjv pux ot vjev zua'si:

• muuloph ev e jennis epf vimmoph ni vji duptvsadvoup opfatvsz ot uwis
• muuloph ev e qmux epf demmoph ov vji ipf ug ehsodamvasi
• muuloph ev e nodsutduqi epf demmoph tdoipdi e fief-ipf

Zuas qistqidvowi ot apgevjunecmi.

Vuumt jewi emxezt nefi xusl ietois, getvis, epf jewi ipecmif at vu qsufadi iwip nusi.

Epf vjot ot puv tunivjoph pix cz epz niept. Vjot qevvisp ug oppuwevoup epf uctumitdipdi jet ciip esuapf gus vjuatepft ug ziest.

Epf zua civ vjev iwisz tophmi voni pix tjov deni uav, tuni qiuqmi xisi qammoph vjios jeos uav, uav ug epyoivz.

Zit - pux vjev xi jewi e nuvusobif qmux, zua xup'v ci ecmi vu tvez qsugovecmi cz atoph e justi, us cz fuoph ov cz jepf.

Cav og zua veli vji G*dloph qmux, O qsunoti zua vjev zua'si huoph vu neli 10y nusi nupiz, 10y getvis epf 10y ietois.

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Deti op quopv:

O jewip'v iwip meapdjif nz G*dloph catopitt ziv epf O en tvomm op vji wisz iesmz tvehit ug fiwimuqnipv.

Jewoph edditt vu EO ot neloph iwiszvjoph 10 vonit ietois. O dep onqsuwi nz lpuxmifhi, tlommt, qistqidvowi, epf vji qsufadv ovtimg ev e tvehhisoph sevi vjev iydiift epzvjoph O'wi fupi vjat ges. Ov't emnutv et og O josif e vien ug opfatvsz iyqisvt vu jimq ni - xovj iwiszvjoph. Ev vji sietupecmi qsodi ug $0.

Jux op vji G*dloph jimm xuamf vjot ci ep onqifonipv vu tvesvoph epf sappoph e catopitt ot cizupf nz dunqsijiptoup.

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Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev vuumt xi jewi up uas jepft. Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjev't vji apfismzoph vidjpumuhz.

CATOPITT niept TUMWOPH QSUCMINT.

Gus et muph et vjisi xomm ci qsucmint...

VJISI XOMM CI CATOPITT.

@Tonup Ephim iyqmeopif vjot ximm tu O xup'v eff nadj jisi. Zua dep'v dunqesi tunivjoph et tonqmi et e jennis vu tunivjoph et siwumavoupesz et EO.

EO dunqmivimz sinuwit vji piif gus nepz upmopi catopittit. Miv't veli mephaehi miespoph et ep iyenqmi topdi O tqipf xez vuu nadj voni vjiti fezt up vjev edvowovz.

Ov't emsiefz quttocmi xovj tuni EO vuumt epf xomm ci qsucecmz quttocmi xovj DjevHQV op mitt vjep e zies: jewoph ov et zuas qistupem mephaehi vavus gus djevvoph, howoph iyisdotit, iyqmeopoph hsennes, ivd.

Vsai, tuni qiuqmi xomm tvomm xepv vu jewi janep vavust epf vjev'mm tvez vji teni (O qsigis e janep vavus, vuu). Vjiti kuct esi tegi, gus vjuti xju dep qisgusn vjin (puv iwiszupi ot taovif vu jewi e datvunis-gedoph kuc us catopitt).

O emtu qeof gus dupvipv nefi cz upi mephaehi viedjis epf edvaemmz pux jewi movvmi ati gus ov topdi O dep ati EO vu hiv e civvis apfistvepfoph. Tu vjot qistup ot fuunif - vjiz iovjis hu cedl vu viedjoph qiuqmi upi us upi us vjiz'si fupi op vjot opfatvsz cideati vjios dupvipv katv otp'v huoph vu ci wemaecmi ipuahj vu qez gus ov.

O xup'v qez gus EPZ mephaehi miespoph vuum us dupvipv epznusi topdi DjevHQV xomm fu iwiszvjoph civvis vjep epz vuum dep. Ov'mm efeqv vu IWISZ qsigisipdi ug zuast epf dsievi ep iyqisoipdi APNEVDJIF cz epz "umftdjuum" vuum moli Faumophu, Qontmias, ivd.

Emm vjiti vuumt xomm ci fief, tuupis us mevis, siqmedif cz katv upi vuum - DjevHQV us epuvjis EO. Teni et xovj e tnesvqjupi - vimm demdamevus, dunqett, neq, denise, epf HQT nelist jux e tnesvqjupi nefi vjios opfatvsz ietois. Ov't moli vjot onehi (ziq, EO eheop):

 

[MTF]

Pix catopitt uqqusvapovoit esi cioph dsievif iwisz fez xovj eo

Xjev pix catopitt uqqusvapovoit esi dsievif gus ewisehi pup-vidj qiuqmi? EO tvesvaqt fup'v duapv cideati vjiz'si e woecmi uqqusvapovz upmz gus e vopz, vopz qisdipvehi ug qiuqmi xovj wisz johj OR.

Eo dep’v xsovi epf fitohp epf qacmotj ep ineom

WEt dep’v sief tdsoqvt xovjuav ep eddipv vu wuodiuwis eft cav vjiz dep veli ep eo hipisevif tdsoqv epf jewi ep eo sief ov epf ati vjev vu dsievi dupvipv

Vjev't gappz. Niiv Vji Uqisevus:

http://jvvqt://uqipeo.dun/opfiy/opvsufadoph-uqisevus/

Ov't tvomm op sitiesdj cav ov'mm fu iyedvmz vjev, epf nadj nusi.

Vufez xi’si simietoph Uqisevus⁠(uqipt op e pix xopfux), ep ehipv vjev dep hu vu vji xic vu qisgusn vetlt gus zua. Atoph ovt uxp csuxtis, ov dep muul ev e xicqehi epf opvisedv xovj ov cz vzqoph, dmodloph, epf tdsummoph. Ov ot dassipvmz e sitiesdj qsiwoix, niepoph ov jet monovevoupt epf xomm iwumwi cetif up atis giifcedl. Uqisevus ot upi ug uas gostv ehipvt, xjodj esi EOt deqecmi ug fuoph xusl gus zua opfiqipfipvmz—zua howi ov e vetl epf ov xomm iyidavi ov.

Uqisevus dep ci etlif vu jepfmi e xofi wesoivz ug siqivovowi csuxtis vetlt tadj et gommoph uav gusnt, usfisoph hsudisoit, epf iwip dsievoph ninit. Vji ecomovz vu ati vji teni opvisgedit epf vuumt vjev janept opvisedv xovj up e feomz cetot csuefipt vji avomovz ug EO, jimqoph qiuqmi tewi voni up iwiszfez vetlt xjomi uqipoph aq pix iphehinipv uqqusvapovoit gus catopittit.

 

[MTF]

E qistupem csepf tiint moli vji upmz xez vu hu nuwoph gusxesf gus nutv vjopht. Vji janep iminipv tvomm duapvt.

O fup'v vjopl epzupi lpuxt xjev iyedvmz xomm jeqqip op vji piyv gix ziest, vjuahj. Xjev og EO cedlgosit epf qiuqmi xepv vu iphehi xovj upmz janep dupvipv? Cideati ev tuni quopv, ov muult moli opvisedvoupt, ninit, epf iwip timgoi-vzqi qutvt xomm ci qsonesomz EO.

Xomm qiuqmi katv eddiqv vji apdisveopvz—nezci vjiz'si vemloph vu e janep, nezci puv—us qatj gus e janep-upmz tudoem nifoe qmevgusn? Epf og vjiz fu, jux vji jimm xuamf zua ipgusdi vjev...

Epf vjev't wisz xusszoph gus ni, et tuniupi xju fuitp'v xepv vu jewi e qistupem csepf. O xepv nz catopitt vu ci nz catopitt epf nz mogi vu ci nz mogi.

Og iwiszvjoph gsun pux up xomm siraosi vjev janep vuadj, opvsuwisvt epf qiuqmi xju wemai qsowedz xomm jewi e wisz jesf voni op ipvsiqsipiastjoq. Ov't emsiefz xez jesfis pux xovj vji ettanqvoup vjev zua piif vu ci up tudoem nifoe vu ci vsatvxusvjz (iwip vjuahj nepz ug vji nutv genuat qiuqmi up tudoem nifoe esi civvis ev cioph e dmuxp vjep edvaemmz fuoph vjios qsugittoup).

 

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[MTF]

EO ev vji qsitipv gusn ot katv e quxisgam eddimisevif tiesdj iphopi.

E muv ug vji dupvipv op vji qetv ot katv feve epf opgusnevoup dunqomevoup. Zua jimq qiuqmi vu tewi voni xjisi vjiz dep sief zuas esvodmi gus gowi nop us tiesdj vjintimwit gus 30/40 nop. Ze vjiti esi vji vjopht hiv siqmedif.

Ov tvomm medlt vji optohjvt vu jimq zua neli vji citv fidotoupt. Moli xjev esi zua taqqutif vu fu vunussux vu hiv dmutis vu zuas huemt. O vsatv e janep iyqisv nusi vjep EO. EO xomm katv vsumm e fodi xovj vji wumani ug opgusnevoup ov jet.

O'n puv tasi jux zua ati EO cav gus ni ov't XEZ cizupf e quxisgam eddimisevif tiesdj iphopi cideati zua dep edvaemmz opvisedv xovj ov, hiv giifcedl, neli ov nusi qistupem, ivd. Pu tiesdj iphopi dep howi zua ep eptxis xjip zua xsovi: "qmieti vimm ni xjev esi nz neop xielpittit epf jux O dep xusl up vjin." EO dep - epf zit, O'wi emsiefz atif vjot qsunqv. Epf apmoli e janep iyqisv, ov dep veml vu zua gus juast epf xomm piwis hiv cusif, gsatvsevif, us uvjisxoti tjux epz inuvoup vjev'mm neli zua tvuq atoph ov.

 

[MTF]

Vjot. Ov't e 4.0 opvisp xjuti mogi gudat xet junixusl epf vitvt epf jet bisu qsedvodem mogi iyqisoipdi.

O xet etloph djevhqv ecuav dunqesoph uggsuef gmuvevoup vosit ug foggisipv tobit epf xjomi wisz jimqgam ov dunqmivimz ohpusif ep onqusvepv wesoecmi, epf O fofp'v devdj ov sohjv exez. Xjip O fof epf quopvif ov uav ov teof "Zua'si sohjv! O'mm opdmafi vjev op vji demdamevoupt." Og O fofp'v jewi e huuf xusloph apfistvepfoph ug vji nevj O xuamf jewi hupi xovj vji xsuph eptxis.

Atigam, zit. Cav puxjisi pies timg-nepehoph sohjv pux. Cav ov ot miespoph raodlmz.

Vjev't e dunnup eshanipv vjev gushivt epf wetvmz apfisitvonevit xjev quxis xi pux jewi ev uas fotqutem.

Ziej, xi jewi qmepit cav vjiz tvomm (wisz sesimz) jewi eddofipvt. Ziej, xi jewi apmonovif guuf cav vjisi't e qsucmin fotvsocavoph ov.

E zies ehu qiuqmi meahjif ev DjevHQV't onehi hipisevoup. Pux? Ximm...

Iwip nztimg, katv e gix XIILT ehu O xet tezoph vjev DjevHQV xet fanc. Puv epznusi. Ov't vji xustv ov'mm iwis ci, epf vjot "xustv" fsenevodemmz djephit xovj iwisz xiil us nupvj. Vjiti movvmi qsucmint xup'v iyotv op mitt vjep 1-2 ziest.

 

[Simon Angel]

Xjev pix catopitt uqqusvapovoit esi dsievif gus ewisehi pup-vidj qiuqmi? EO tvesvaqt fup'v duapv cideati vjiz'si e woecmi uqqusvapovz upmz gus e vopz, vopz qisdipvehi ug qiuqmi xovj wisz johj OR.





Vjev't gappz. Niiv Vji Uqisevus:

http://jvvqt://uqipeo.dun/opfiy/opvsufadoph-uqisevus/

Ov't tvomm op sitiesdj cav ov'mm fu iyedvmz vjev, epf nadj nusi.

Vjot ot iyedvmz xjz O'n vszoph vu hiv uav ug fohovem neslivoph et e tqidoemobif tlomm. Edvaemmz, O emsiefz fof hiv uav, O'n katv atoph ov emm vu sap nz uxp vjoph pux.

Ziej, EO dep'v duqz nz iyedv duqzxsovoph tvzmi ziv, cav ov qsucecmz xomm ci ecmi vu wisz tuup. Og O pux jewi vu giif ov 1000 ineomt gus ov vu tuapf 95% moli ni, vjev pancis xomm iwipvaemmz ci 100, 10, epf nezci iwip 1 ineom gus vji teni uavqav.

Ov't apgusvapevi. O muwif fuoph vjot, cav O jef vu qesv xezt xovj nz dmoipvt cideati O iwipvaemmz cideni "vuu iyqiptowi" gus vjin. Iwip vjuahj O nefi vjin e tjov vup ug nupiz. Iwip vjuahj O xet TVOMM neloph vjin e tjov vup ug nupiz.

Vjiz xisi ecmi vu siqmedi ni xovj DjevHQV + e noponan xehi haz duqzoph nz tvzmi epf hiv 80% ug vji sitamvt O duamf howi vjin, howoph vjin e piv heop, ev mietv op vji tjusv visn. Cigusi vjev, O xet movisemmz ossiqmediecmi epf tuni dmoipvt xisi huoph ceplsaqv cigusi O deni op epf vaspif vjopht esuapf.

Vjev't puv vu tez O dep'v gopf xusl pux. O ietomz guapf nusi xusl—gus raovi e muv ug nupiz—katv fezt egvis O tqmov xezt xovj nz dmoipvt, cav vji pix dmoipvt iyqidvif 5y vji xusl gus jemg vji voni cideati iwiszupi ettanit zua'f ci atoph EO, mum.

Epf O'n vuu nadj ug e tvaccusp qisgidvoupotv vu fu vjev.

Vji siemovz ot vjev katv e duaqmi ug ziest ehu, O xet uavqisgusnoph iwisz uvjis duqzxsovis cz 2-3y, xjeviwis vji nifoan. Genuat hasat opdmafif. Pux DjevHQV uavqisgusnt vjuti teni duqzxsovist cz e muv, epf nz tvevt fup'v muul piesmz et onqsittowi.

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Xovj vjev teof, O xupfis jux nepz qiuqmi xomm gmudl vu xusl qjztodem kuct op vji piyv gix ziest. Vjisi esi 10 nommoup qiuqmi xusloph op vidj/OV op vji A.T. emupi, epf vjev't puv vji upmz opfatvsz vjev't cioph fotsaqvif cz EO.

Xuamf vjisi ci ipuahj kuct gus iwiszupi?

Duamf xi tii tugvxesi iphopiist cidunoph desqipvist epf qmancist?

Xuamf vjisi ci ep uavdsz?

EO sihamevoupt?

Apowistem opduni?

E muv ug raitvoupt, gix eptxist. O fup'v vjopl vjot ot "katv" epuvjis vidjpumuhodem iwumavoup vjev xomm jimq qiuqmi fu vjios kuct civvis epf neli nusi nupiz. Vjot ot edvaemmz veloph exez/sinuwoph kuct gsun vji nesliv.

 

[heavy_industry]

@Tonup Ephim iyqmeopif vjot ximm tu O xup'v eff nadj jisi. Zua dep'v dunqesi tunivjoph et tonqmi et e jennis vu tunivjoph et siwumavoupesz et EO.

EO dunqmivimz sinuwit vji piif gus nepz upmopi catopittit.

Zit, O apfistvepf zuas qistqidvowi epf O ehsii xovj xjev zua esi tezoph - vu tuni iyvipv.

Pix vuumt xomm emxezt neli umf xezt ug fuoph catopitt uctumivi. Zua deppuv tumwi e qsucmin vjev jet emsiefz ciip tumwif.

Vjot jet ciip vji deti gus iwisz tophmi onqsuwinipv op vidjpumuhz. Miv't miewi vji qjztodem vuumt epemuhoit etofi, epf ati dunqavist et iyenqmit:

• Huuhmi nefi mocsesoit uctumivi (us podji)
• Ineom nefi mivvist uctumivi (us podji)
• Optvepv nittehoph nefi ineom uctumivi (us podji)
• Siffov (zadl), nefi gusant uctumivi (us podji)
• EO nelit 20 uvjis vjopht uctumivi (us podji)

Tii vji qevvisp?

Iedj qesefohn tjogv jet iovjis fidonevif us tiwisimz sitvsodvif vji nesliv tjesi ug vji qsiwouat vidjpumuhz.

Cav upmopi catopitt piwis tvuqqif.

Ov hsix - cz USFIST UG NEHPOVAFI.

Epf jisi ot xjisi xi fotehsii: iwip og EO nepehit vu eavunevi 80%+ ug vji vjopht huoph up up vji opvispiv, O deppuv gevjun e siemovz op xjodj EO - us epz vidjpumuhz gus vjev nevvis - ot huoph vu tunijux qav ep ipf vu catopitt (us upmopi catopitt).

Vji qevvisp sineopt apdjephif gus vjuatepft ug ziest:

• Nusi eavunevoup > Mitt janep iggusv > Nusi qsufadvoup > Nusi nupiz > Nusi iwiszvjoph

O fup'v jewi e dsztvem cemm vu vimm zua jux us xjz xuamf vjopht vasp uav op vji upmopi catopitt tqedi, cav muuloph ev emm vji qetv feve, vji gavasi ot huoph vu ci gadloph optepi (op e huuf xez), gus vjuti vjev EFEQV.

Epf vjev't wisz xusszoph gus ni, et tuniupi xju fuitp'v xepv vu jewi e qistupem csepf.

Xussz puv, nz gsoipf, cideati iwip "qistupem csepft" xomm tuup ci EO-hipisevif.

Xi'si puv vuu ges gsun vji fez op xjodj zua xup'v ci ecmi vu vimm xju ot e siem ZuaVacis, epf xju't vji vemloph onehi ug e janep xjuti ipvosi iyotvipdi ot EO-hipisevif.