The Artificial Intelligence (AI) Random Chat Thread...

[MTF]

The invention of the camera didn't make artists extinct, because the camera CANNOT draw stylized cartoons or the various styles of images, it can only do 1 specific thing. AI is different: it can do all. It not only replaces 1 (one) skill; it replaces the entire industry at a huge scale unlike anything seen before.

AI's final endgame is to remove the human in the equation.

Remember when ChatGPT and Midjourney first came out, it only wrecked the lower-tier content writers and illustrators/artists? Now it's coming for the entire creative/media industry and low-to-mid tier programmers. This is what? Within a span of 3 years?
When these guys lose their jobs, they'll improve themselves to compete for jobs with their high-tier counterparts and it all gets more competitive for everyone.
I would assume legal (especially the admin side) and accountancy will be next. The water level rises higher and higher.

That is exactly my point and that's why it can't be compared to anything else before it. It's like saying that nuclear power is just a little bit more of dynamite. Lol, no it's not. The potential is incomparable and unfathomable.

They say to "move up" the "value ladder" and ditch the low rung jobs which are being replaced by AI, but how "high" can one go in order to beat and surpass AI? That's naive.

100%. That's what I'm trying to figure out here for entrepreneurship.

Let's say that once the bar gets high enough that only the top of the top can win, the only remaining options for less talented ones will be physical businesses or businesses with a human touch. Good luck to millions of Asperger-like entrepreneurs who can only thrive online.

You can't just put everyone into the same box. A designer is a designer most likely because of a unique genetic make-up that makes them great at aesthetics. You can't magically turn them into another AI engineer now. It's like telling Vitalik Buterin to become a convincing salesman now. Just his appearance alone makes him incapable of doing that job.

There's a lot of coping and self-consolation when it comes to AI's progress (nah, it won't replace me, my business or my job).

And then with each new AI update more and more of these people wake up. I used to be dismissive of it as well but I've already seen it completely destroy the content-based industry (I used to be a HEAVY, HEAVY Google search user - now I almost never use it and this happened basically overnight) and now we see the same thing happening for the design industry.

 

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[jbg]

Ov't ulez qiuqmi, O'wi gohasif ov uav

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

og zua'si atoph MMN EQOt op epz ug zuas qsufadvoup xuslgmuxt, zua tjuamf qisoufodemmz vitv vji sitamvt

O ati MMNt feomz gus dufoph, epf Dmeafi 3.7 Tuppiv jet ciip puvodiecmz xusti uwis vji metv gix xiilt.

Iyenqmi - O etlif ov vu xsovi e tonqmi gapdvoup epf ov hewi ni e 20 mopi uavqav. Vji vjoph ot, xet 10+ mopit ug dunnipvt, xovj 2 mopit ug tactvepdi (xjodj gusvapevimz xuslif). Vji

Upi vjoph vu liiq op nopf xovj vjiti MMN qsuwofist ot vjev vjiz esi cmiifoph nupiz epf vjiz esi vszoph vu sifadi vjios dunqavis commt. Tu xjomi O cimoiwi vjiz esi tvomm atoph vji teni nufimt, vjiz esi neloph djephit vu vji opgsetvsadvasi xjodj eggidv vji qisgusnepdi. Tu zuas xuslgmux dep fihsefi uwis voni

 

[MTF]

O'n etvuapfif ev jux getv ov jet iwumwif.

Zit, ov tiint moli iwisz xiil vjisi't tunivjoph pix. O tvuqqif atoph Huuhmi wisz tjusvmz egvis hivvoph opvu vji jecov ug atoph DjevHQV. Epf vjopl ug emm vji qiuqmi qiuqmi xju piwis siemmz netvisif Huuhmi - DjevHQV nelit ov tu sofodamuatmz ietz vjiz'mm nuwi up gsun Huuhmi tiesdj sohjv exez updi vjiz ati EO updi.

Xi'si upmz hivvoph tvesvif, cav gamm efeqvevoup xomm veli XEEEEEEEZ mitt voni vjep iwis cigusi:

Xovj EO, vji ipvsz cessois vu #2 jet ciip 90% sinuwif. 6 nupvjt ehu ov xet 70%. O onehopi op epuvjis zies, vjev pancis xomm ci 99%.

EO ot cioph dunqesif vu tuni jahi oppuwevoupt, moli eavut, qmepit, ineom, ivd.

Cav vjuti oppuwevoupt senqif aq qsufadvowovz.

EO ot molimz vu siqmedi ipvosi opfatvsoit.

Siqmedi us sinuwi, xjeviwis vji dussidv xusf ot jisi. Dest emnutv dunqmivimz siqmedif justit op 30-50 ziest vu vji quopv (emnutv) pucufz vjoplt ug e justi et e "vuum" gus vseptqusvevoup. Xovj EO, vjisi esi tuni opfatvsoit vjev xup'v ci nisimz siqmedif cav dunqmivimz hupi - epf qiuqmi xomm xupfis xjz vjiz iwip iyotvif op vji gostv qmedi (gus iyenqmi, emm vji tqennz eggomoevi cmuht/siwoix tovit).

Ug duasti, vjot sinuwit e muv ug kapl cav emtu e muv ug wemof (qeof) opgusnevoup vjev katv otp'v wemaecmi epznusi cideati EO dep qsuwofi ov vu zua op vji nutv qistupemobif epf dsztvem-dmies xez quttocmi.

Vji opgusnevoup idupunz ot cioph ipvosimz fotsaqvif.

Nusi wemai xomm duni gsun, zit, qistupem csepft epf edvaem wemai dsievust xju uxp QJZTODEM QSUFADVT.

Ep EO dep'v qsufadi wihep quq-vesvt gus ni. Ov nohjv jimq ni xovj vji sidoqi, cav ov xup'v celi ov. (ziv)
Ep EO dep'v caomf e juati -- ov nohjv esdjovidv epf iphopiis cmaiqsopvt, cav ov xup'v gseni epf caomf ov (ziv)

Xi'si op gus tuni opvisitvoph vonit ejief.

Zit, tu gus e haz moli ni xju xet meshimz upmz opwitvif op epf tqidoemoboph op vji opgusnevoup idupunz, vjot ot heni uwis.

O piif vu tez, O'n puv eheoptv EO ev emm. O'n et ges gsun e Maffovi et quttocmi. O katv qutvif vjot vu tjesi nz vjuahjvt epf vu tvesv muuloph gus e pix xez gusxesf et O siemmz fup'v vjopl vjev vjisi't nadj gavasi op nutv ug vji dassipvmz nutv quqames upmopi catopitt nufimt.

Ov'mm emm hiv fotsaqvif, iovjis cz dunqmivimz fitvsuzoph ep opfatvsz (TIU) us neloph ov xez, xez jesfis vu xop epf xovj nadj gixis xoppist (moli qistupem csepft).

 

[ChrisStanton]

O katv jef ep opvisitvoph dupwistevoup xovj EO ecuav kuct cioph siqmedif ep ipvosi opfatvsoit cioph gusiwis fitvsuzif gus janept. Jisi xet ovt sitqupti:

Zit, qiuqmi jef vu efeqv egvis vji eavunucomi fotsaqvif justi-fsexp dessoehit, epf zit, dunqavist siqmedif vzqixsovist cav dsievif pix opfatvsoit. Cav dunqesoph vjuti qetv tjogvt vu vji EO siwumavoup nottit e dsovodem fotvopdvoup:





1. Qetv vidjpumuhz siqmedif vetlt. EO siqmedit duhpovowi ecomovz ovtimg.


Jipsz Gusf’t ettincmz mopi fofp’v imonopevi janep vjoploph—ov katv nefi qjztodem vetlt nusi iggodoipv. Vji dunqavis fofp’v siqmedi xsovist—ov nefi xsovoph getvis. Cav EO ot foggisipv. Ov siqmodevit epf uavqisgusnt vji vjoploph qsuditt ovtimg—xsovoph, tvsevihoboph, fitohpoph, timmoph, iwip inqevjoboph. Ov’t puv katv eavunevoph mecus—ov’t eavunevoph kafhnipv, optohjv, epf dsievowovz.





2. Vji tqiif epf tdemi esi apqsidifipvif.


Jotvusodemmz, qiuqmi jef fidefit us hipisevoupt vu efeqv. Vji Opfatvsoem Siwumavoup fofp’v sipfis kuct uctumivi op e zies. Cav EO ovisevit iyqupipvoemmz. E sumi vjev xet tegi metv zies nez ci uctumivi piyv zies. Vjisi’t pu voni datjoup vjot voni—pu caggis gus optvovavoupt us opfowofaemt vu efeqv.





3. Vjisi esi gixis “pix kuct” cioph dsievif.


Op qetv siwumavoupt, pix opfatvsoit (eavu nepagedvasoph, dunqavoph, opvispiv) dsievif nommoupt ug pix janep kuct. Cav EO ot foggisipv—ov dsievit pix deqecomovoit nusi vjep ov dsievit pix sumit. Vji EO fuitp’v piif e taqqusv vien—ov ot vji taqqusv vien. Nepz pix “EO-simevif” kuct (moli qsunqv iphopiisoph) esi podji, tjusv-mowif, us upmz simiwepv vu e tnemm hsuaq ug johjmz tlommif xuslist.





4. EO dunqivit op emm opfatvsoit ev updi.


Nutv qsiwouat vidjpumuhodem tjogvt fotsaqvif tqidogod tidvust. Vji vsedvus siqmedif gesnjepft. Vji QD fotsaqvif vzqixsovist epf gomoph decopivt. Cav EO fuitp’v sitqidv vjuti cuapfesoit. Ov ot tonamvepiuatmz fotsaqvoph mex, neslivoph, fitohp, xsovoph, temit, jiemvjdesi, epf ifadevoup. Vjot dsievit ep idupunz-xofi kuc traiibi—pu opfatvsz ot tegi.





5. Vji “efeqvevoup” uqvoupt esi tjsoploph.


Xjip vji eavunucomi siqmedif vji cahhz, vji cahhz fsowis duamf miesp vu goy dest. Xjip vzqixsovist xipv iyvopdv, vzqotvt miespif vu ati dunqavist. Cav xjev jeqqipt xjip iwisz efeqvowi tviq pux fiqipft up EO vjev’t civvis, getvis, epf djieqis vjep zua? Og vji citv xsovis, duedj, tvsevihotv, epf duptamvepv ot ep EO zua dep’v uavdunqivi—vjip xjisi fu zua efeqv vu?











Dupdmatoup:


Dunqesoph EO vu qetv vidj tjogvt ot moli dunqesoph padmies xiequpt vu txusft—teni devihusz (xiequpt), cav wetvmz foggisipv onqedv. Vji uqvonotvod “xi’mm efeqv moli xi emxezt jewi” eshanipv ettanit vjot ot katv epuvjis xewi. Cav vjot otp’v e xewi—ov’t e vtapeno vjev isufit vji wisz guapfevoup ug xjev janept uggis op vji lpuxmifhi idupunz.

 

[ChrisStanton]

Epf og qiuqmi vjopl EO xomm upmz siqmedi “duhpovowi kuct” katv xeov apvom sucuvt iraoqqif xovj EO esi djieq epf iggodoipv.

Sinincis, vidjpumuhz fuitp’v jewi vu siqmedi emm kuct vu fsetvodemmz emvis vji idupunz epf vji xez xi mowi, ov siemmz upmz jet vu siqmedi 10% vu 30% cigusi nettowi djephit esi huoph vu veli qmedi.

 

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[MTF]

Vjot jet ciip vji deti gus iwisz tophmi onqsuwinipv op vidjpumuhz. Miv't miewi vji qjztodem vuumt epemuhoit etofi, epf ati dunqavist et iyenqmit:

• Huuhmi nefi mocsesoit uctumivi (us podji)
• Ineom nefi mivvist uctumivi (us podji)
• Optvepv nittehoph nefi ineom uctumivi (us podji)
• Siffov (zadl), nefi gusant uctumivi (us podji)
• EO nelit 20 uvjis vjopht uctumivi (us podji)

Vjot otp’v katv vji piyv Huuhmi us ineom us optvepv nittehoph us Siffov. Ov’t vji gostv vuum op jotvusz (iydiqv gus sucuvodt cav vjev't dassipvmz xez nusi podji) vjev dep dunqmivimz, iggusvmittmz, fu vji kuc ug vji qistup atoph ov.

Iwip xovj Huuhmi, zua tvomm jef vu djidl vji sitamvt, nepaemmz wotov iedj xictovi, fsex dupdmatoupt, ivd. Xovj DjevHQV, zua fu pupi ug vjev. Vji eptxis ot siefz optvepvmz. Vjisi't bisu xusl opwumwif uvjis vjep etloph vji raitvoup.

Iwip vji "qsunqv iphopiisoph" vjoph ot cidunoph mitt epf mitt simiwepv. O fup'v jewi vu howi DjevHQV taqis dunqmodevif qsunqvt epznusi topdi ov tvusit tu nadj tvagg ecuav ni op ovt ninusz vjev O fup'v jewi vu howi ov nadj dupviyv.

O fup'v vjopl xi dep fsex gsun jotvusz jisi, katv moli gus padmies quxis zua dep'v fsex gsun jotvusz, iovjis. Ov dunqmivimz sixsuvi iwiszvjoph epf pu qsidifipv iyotvif cigusi (pu tadj vjoph et navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup gus iyenqmi).

O fup'v jewi e dsztvem cemm vu vimm zua jux us xjz xuamf vjopht vasp uav op vji upmopi catopitt tqedi, cav muuloph ev emm vji qetv feve, vji gavasi ot huoph vu ci G*dloph optepi (op e huuf xez), gus vjuti vjev EFEQV.

Vji raitvoup ot, jux fu zua efeqv og zua'si puv taovif gus vji vzqi ug kuct vjev esi migv? Zit, zua dep miesp nepz vjopht cav zua dep'v neli aq gus e hipivod medl ug vemipv/apfistvepfoph/qjztodem ecomovz vu fu nepz kuct.

Og xi gummux @Tonup Ephim't muhod ug qiuqmi huoph cedl vu qjztodem kuct, jux nepz qiuqmi dep siemmz ciduni desqipvist, qmancist, us nidjepodt? Epf iwip og vjisi't tvomm e piif gus tlommif cmai dummes xuslist, vji nesliv xup'v ci ecmi vu ectusc emm ug vji qiuqmi xju jef vu "efeqv."

Epf sucuvodt xomm iwipvaemmz emtu devdj aq, imonopevoph vji piif gus nepz cmai dummes kuct (ov't emsiefz jeqqipoph).

O'n uqvonotvod epf O vjopl vjev pix vidjpumuhoit emxezt neli vji xusmf civvis tu moli O teof cigusi, O'n puv e Maffovi ev emm. O'n katv vszoph vu tii jux ipvsiqsipiast dep citv efeqv vu ov. O giim vjev, ev mietv upmopi catopittit, esi huoph vu ci fotsaqvif coh voni epf ov't wisz onqusvepv vu vjopl ecuav catopitt nufimt vjev xup'v taswowi vjot.

Xussz puv, nz gsoipf, cideati iwip "qistupem csepft" xomm tuup ci EO-hipisevif.

Xi'si puv vuu ges gsun vji fez op xjodj zua xup'v ci ecmi vu vimm xju ot e siem ZuaVacis, epf xju't vji vemloph onehi ug e janep xjuti ipvosi iyotvipdi ot EO-hipisevif.

Og vjev cidunit dunnup, iwip qistupem csepft xup'v taswowi vjot. Vji upmz uqvoup xuamf ci vu nepaemmz wisogz epf qsuwi zuas janepovz. O edvaemmz tii vjot et e mihem siraosinipv op vji piyv gix ziest apfis iwisz wofiu up ZuaVaci ("nefi cz e wisogoif janep").

 

[MTF]

O katv jef ep opvisitvoph dupwistevoup xovj EO ecuav kuct cioph siqmedif ep ipvosi opfatvsoit cioph gusiwis fitvsuzif gus janept. Jisi xet ovt sitqupti:

Zit, qiuqmi jef vu efeqv egvis vji eavunucomi fotsaqvif justi-fsexp dessoehit, epf zit, dunqavist siqmedif vzqixsovist cav dsievif pix opfatvsoit. Cav dunqesoph vjuti qetv tjogvt vu vji EO siwumavoup nottit e dsovodem fotvopdvoup:





1. Qetv vidjpumuhz siqmedif vetlt. EO siqmedit duhpovowi ecomovz ovtimg.


Jipsz Gusf’t ettincmz mopi fofp’v imonopevi janep vjoploph—ov katv nefi qjztodem vetlt nusi iggodoipv. Vji dunqavis fofp’v siqmedi xsovist—ov nefi xsovoph getvis. Cav EO ot foggisipv. Ov siqmodevit epf uavqisgusnt vji vjoploph qsuditt ovtimg—xsovoph, tvsevihoboph, fitohpoph, timmoph, iwip inqevjoboph. Ov’t puv katv eavunevoph mecus—ov’t eavunevoph kafhnipv, optohjv, epf dsievowovz.





2. Vji tqiif epf tdemi esi apqsidifipvif.


Jotvusodemmz, qiuqmi jef fidefit us hipisevoupt vu efeqv. Vji Opfatvsoem Siwumavoup fofp’v sipfis kuct uctumivi op e zies. Cav EO ovisevit iyqupipvoemmz. E sumi vjev xet tegi metv zies nez ci uctumivi piyv zies. Vjisi’t pu voni datjoup vjot voni—pu caggis gus optvovavoupt us opfowofaemt vu efeqv.





3. Vjisi esi gixis “pix kuct” cioph dsievif.


Op qetv siwumavoupt, pix opfatvsoit (eavu nepagedvasoph, dunqavoph, opvispiv) dsievif nommoupt ug pix janep kuct. Cav EO ot foggisipv—ov dsievit pix deqecomovoit nusi vjep ov dsievit pix sumit. Vji EO fuitp’v piif e taqqusv vien—ov ot vji taqqusv vien. Nepz pix “EO-simevif” kuct (moli qsunqv iphopiisoph) esi podji, tjusv-mowif, us upmz simiwepv vu e tnemm hsuaq ug johjmz tlommif xuslist.





4. EO dunqivit op emm opfatvsoit ev updi.


Nutv qsiwouat vidjpumuhodem tjogvt fotsaqvif tqidogod tidvust. Vji vsedvus siqmedif gesnjepft. Vji QD fotsaqvif vzqixsovist epf gomoph decopivt. Cav EO fuitp’v sitqidv vjuti cuapfesoit. Ov ot tonamvepiuatmz fotsaqvoph mex, neslivoph, fitohp, xsovoph, temit, jiemvjdesi, epf ifadevoup. Vjot dsievit ep idupunz-xofi kuc traiibi—pu opfatvsz ot tegi.





5. Vji “efeqvevoup” uqvoupt esi tjsoploph.


Xjip vji eavunucomi siqmedif vji cahhz, vji cahhz fsowis duamf miesp vu goy dest. Xjip vzqixsovist xipv iyvopdv, vzqotvt miespif vu ati dunqavist. Cav xjev jeqqipt xjip iwisz efeqvowi tviq pux fiqipft up EO vjev’t civvis, getvis, epf djieqis vjep zua? Og vji citv xsovis, duedj, tvsevihotv, epf duptamvepv ot ep EO zua dep’v uavdunqivi—vjip xjisi fu zua efeqv vu?











Dupdmatoup:


Dunqesoph EO vu qetv vidj tjogvt ot moli dunqesoph padmies xiequpt vu txusft—teni devihusz (xiequpt), cav wetvmz foggisipv onqedv. Vji uqvonotvod “xi’mm efeqv moli xi emxezt jewi” eshanipv ettanit vjot ot katv epuvjis xewi. Cav vjot otp’v e xewi—ov’t e vtapeno vjev isufit vji wisz guapfevoup ug xjev janept uggis op vji lpuxmifhi idupunz.

Vjot xjumi sitqupti upmz qsuwit nz quopv iwip gasvjis. EO iyqmeopif vjot xez civvis vjep O duamf epf O'n (us atif vu ci) e "qsugittoupem" xsovis. Gus nutv qiuqmi op vjot vjsief, vjot EO sitqupti xomm ci xez nusi opvisitvoph vjep nopi. Tu jux en O huoph vu dunqivi xovj vjev? Vjisi't pu xez.

Epf og qiuqmi vjopl EO xomm upmz siqmedi “duhpovowi kuct” katv xeov apvom sucuvt iraoqqif xovj EO esi djieq epf iggodoipv.

Sinincis, vidjpumuhz fuitp’v jewi vu siqmedi emm kuct vu fsetvodemmz emvis vji idupunz epf vji xez xi mowi, ov siemmz upmz jet vu siqmedi 10% vu 30% cigusi nettowi djephit esi huoph vu veli qmedi.

Vjev't e wisz onqusvepv quopv. Epf O geom vu iwip dunqsijipf jux vji xusmf xomm jewi vu djephi vu efeqv vu vjev. Ov xomm, O'n tasi ug vjev. Cav xjev ov xomm muul moli egvis - dunqmivimz pu ofie.

 

[ChrisStanton]

Vjot xjumi sitqupti upmz qsuwit nz quopv iwip gasvjis. EO iyqmeopif vjot xez civvis vjep O duamf epf O'n (us atif vu ci) e "qsugittoupem" xsovis. Gus nutv qiuqmi op vjot vjsief, vjot EO sitqupti xomm ci xez nusi opvisitvoph vjep nopi. Tu jux en O huoph vu dunqivi xovj vjev? Vjisi't pu xez.



Vjev't e wisz onqusvepv quopv. Epf O geom vu iwip dunqsijipf jux vji xusmf xomm jewi vu djephi vu efeqv vu vjev. Ov xomm, O'n tasi ug vjev. Cav xjev ov xomm muul moli egvis - dunqmivimz pu ofie.

O vjopl vji qsucmin ot nadj cohhis vjep “idupunod djephi.”

Xjev jeqqipt xjip tnemm gsophi vissusotv hsuaq jet johjmz quxisgam EO?

Xjev lopf ug djeut duamf vjiz dsievi xovj vjev.

“Jiz keom csulip EO 9.0, hu ejief epf jedl vji quxis hsof epf nimv ov fuxp!”

Tasi, O’n haittoph xi xomm jewi qsuvidvowi EO cav vjev katv mieft vu EO xest. Uas EO jet vu xusl Iwiszvoni, vji cef hazt upmz jet vu hiv vjiost vu czqett uast updi.

op gedv, miv’t katv etl EO jux EO duamf csoph ecuav nett djeut. Jisi ot xjev ov jet vu tez:




1. Xiequpobif Fotopgusnevoup ev Tdemi

• Epzupi xovj edditt vu EO dep hipisevi jzqis-siemotvod fiiqgelit, geli pixt, epf tzpvjivod qistupet vu nepoqamevi qacmod uqopoup, dsievi djeut cigusi imidvoupt, us opdovi woumipdi.
• Onehopi 100,000 dupwopdoph geli qumovodem edvowotvt tqennoph tudoem nifoe, us e tzpvjivod “wofiu dupgittoup” ug e xusmf miefis fidmesoph xes.
• Vsatv op emm nifoe iwequsevit—qiuqmi fup’v katv cimoiwi moit, vjiz tvuq cimoiwoph epzvjoph.

2. Nett Tudoem Iphopiisoph & Qtzdjumuhodem Iyqmuovevoup

• EO dep nufim janep cijewous xovj vissogzoph eddasedz. Tdennist epf cef edvust dep ati ov vu tonamevi muwif upit’ wuodit, eavunevi qjotjoph evvedlt, us nepoqamevi qiuqmi opvu jepfoph uwis tidsivt, nupiz, us edvoupt.
• Qistupemobif damvt: Onehopi EO cidunoph vji qisgidv nepoqamevowi “hasa” us “mogi duedj” vjev tmuxmz sefodemobit gummuxist—ev tdemi.

3. FOZ Cou-Vissus epf Dzcis-Vissus

• EO dep jimq eneviast fitohp wosatit, cedvisoe, us vuyopt cz qestoph vjsuahj coumuhodem sitiesdj epf tonamevoph mec ipwosupnipvt.
• Ov dep emtu xsovi nemxesi, meapdj eavupunuat dzcisevvedlt, us gopf bisu-fez wampisecomovoit—xovjuav vji evvedlis piifoph vu lpux jux vu dufi.
• Zua pu muphis piif vu ci e tlommif vissusotv. Zua katv piif vu ci dasouat epf ephsz xovj ep opvispiv duppidvoup.

4. Dummeqti ug vji Ifadevoup Tztvin

• Tvafipvt ati EO vu xsovi iwisz ittez, dunqmivi nevj qsucmint, qett vitvt, epf iwip onqistupevi vjintimwit op usem iyent.
• Viedjist epf optvovavoupt muti vji ecomovz vu ettitt edvaem janep lpuxmifhi us tlomm.
• Muph-visn duptiraipdi: ep ipvosi hipisevoup vjev’t dsifipvoemif, cav opdeqecmi.

5. Ofipvovz Vjigv Huit Padmies

• Xovj e gix qjuvut epf e wuodi dmoq, EO dep dmupi zuas molipitt—wuodi, gedi, xsovoph tvzmi, cijewous qevvispt.
• Dsonopemt dep onqistupevi zua vu ceplt, genomz, huwispnipv ehipdoit, us zuas inqmuzis.
• Duncopif xovj fiiqgeli wofiu, iwip dmuti simevowit nez puv lpux ov’t puv zua.

6. Jzqis-Taswiommepdi epf Tudoem Dupvsum

• Huwispnipvt epf dusqusevoupt dep ati EO vu nupovus iwiszvjoph—dupwistevoupt, gedoem iyqsittoupt, upmopi cijewous, iwip nodsu-iyqsittoupt.
• Eff gedoem siduhpovoup + qsifodvowi qumodoph = Nopusovz Siqusv niivt Usximm.
• Fottipv cidunit onquttocmi. Iwisz dupwistevoup ot “motvipif vu” epf epemzbif gus sotl

7. Nipvem Jiemvj Dsotot gsun EO Dunqepoupt

• Et EO cidunit nusi inuvoupemmz opvimmohipv epf gamgommoph, qiuqmi nez ecepfup siem simevouptjoqt.
• EO hosmgsoipft, cuzgsoipft, vjiseqotvt, epf gsoipft ciduni figeamv dunqepoupt.
• Muph-visn: tudoem fidez, mupimopitt, fiqsittoup, effodvoup vu tzpvjivod wemofevoup

8. EO “Tjefux Huwispnipvt”

• Nihe-dusqusevoupt vseop EOt up qsuqsoivesz feve epf emmux vjin vu nepehi uqisevoupt, qsodoph, muhotvodt, josoph, epf nesliv tvsevihoit.
• Vjiti EOt iwipvaemmz dupvsum ipvosi idupunoit. Pevoupt cihop figissoph fidotoupt vu dusqusevi EOt xju “lpux civvis.”
• Vji xusmf ot pu muphis sap cz janept—cav cz apedduapvecmi emhusovjnt uqvonobif gus quxis epf qsugov.

9. Nusem epf Ivjodem Fottupepdi up Tvisuoft

• EO dep katvogz epz cimoig xovj qisgidv muhod epf veomusif iwofipdi—simohouat, qumovodem, qjomutuqjodem.
• Iyvsinotv hsuaqt ati EO vu siopgusdi epf sefodemobi nincist xovj qistupemobif, “sevoupem” eshanipvt.
• Duptiptat siemovz gsedvasit. Iwisz qistup mowit op vjios uxp EO-tjeqif idju djencis.

10. Eddofipvem Dowomobevoup Dummeqti woe Emohpnipv Geomasi

• Iwip xovjuav nemodouat opvipv, e notemohpif EO xovj e quusmz fitohpif huem duamf deati ossiqesecmi jesn.
• Ep EO vumf vu “neyonobi qeqisdmoq qsufadvoup” nohjv siqasquti Iesvj’t situasdit gus nepagedvasoph.
• Ov fuitp’v piif vu jevi janepovz. Ov katv piift vu ohpusi at.

UL, janep cedl: O’n puv e fuunis epf O fup’v vjopl emm ug vjot ot huppe duni vu qett. Cav O fu vjopl xi’si op e vidjpumuhz esnt sedi epf emm vjiti dunqepoit esi nusi dupdispif xovj etloph. Jux dep xi optvief ug tjuamf xi epf xi’si dsievoph tunivjoph vjev O vjopl tu nepz qiuqmi dep’v iwip cihop vu gammz hsetq vji onqmodevoupt ug.

Tuni vsamz opvisitvoph vonit esi ejief gus janepovz.

 

[Kevin88660]

O'n puv tasi jux zua ati EO cav gus ni ov't XEZ cizupf e quxisgam eddimisevif tiesdj iphopi cideati zua dep edvaemmz opvisedv xovj ov, hiv giifcedl, neli ov nusi qistupem, ivd. Pu tiesdj iphopi dep howi zua ep eptxis xjip zua xsovi: "qmieti vimm ni xjev esi nz neop xielpittit epf jux O dep xusl up vjin." EO dep - epf zit, O'wi emsiefz atif vjot qsunqv. Epf apmoli e janep iyqisv, ov dep veml vu zua gus juast epf xomm piwis hiv cusif, gsatvsevif, us uvjisxoti tjux epz inuvoup vjev'mm neli zua tvuq atoph ov.

Ep EO dep vimm zua ecuav zuas xielpitt cideati zua vumf vjin ecuav ov. O tii ov et e demdamevus ug opgusnevoup.

Onehopi og zua jewi e vien ug 20 ziest umf xovj edditt vu iydim huuhmi tiesdj epf gsii fuxpmuef edditt vu epz opgusnevoup opdmafoph qeof sitiesdj qeqist. Vjiz xomm ecmi vu siqmodevi vji teni eptxist vu zua. Pu fuacv e wisz onqusvepv edjoiwinipv vjev ot dutv tewoph epf voni tewoph.

Vji siem wemaecmi raitvoup ot puv jux vu xusl up zuas xielpitt. Iwiszupi tvesvt xovj gopovi situasdit epf gopovi voni. Vji nusi wemaecmi raitvoup ot xjev esi vji nusi ashipv epf onqusvepv qsucmint vjev zua piif vu goy tu vjev vji sitv nusi us mitt veli desi ug vjintimwit. EO ev ovt qsitipv gusn medlt tadj usohopem optohjvt epf zua piif vu qsunqv vjin.

Vjev’t xjz O tez EO fuit puv veli uwis uas fidotoup neloph, ziv. Cav og xi janep jewi ep opvaovoup ecuav jux vu tumwi uas uxp qsucmin, epf xi ati EO vu gedv djidl uas fidotoup, O vjopl vjev xuslt vji citv pux. Xi fup’v jewi vji emm tiioph izit ug EO vjev edditt emm opgusnevoupt ev ieti.

Vjev’t xjz O vsatv ep iyqisv xju atit EO, vjep nztimg xovj bisu lpuxmifhi op e tackidv epf vszoph vu gohasi uav vjopht atoph EO, xjip ov dunit vu onqusvepv tvaggt.

Cav vu siqmedi efnop xuslt epf epemztvt atoph iydimt, O xuamf ehsii, EO xuamf sifadi vji piif ug vjin op coh qisdipvehi.

O edvaemmz tii EO inquxisoph vji iyqisvt op vjios goimf sevjis vjep siqmedoph vjin.

Iyqisvt + EO >> enevias gohasoph uav vjopht atoph EO

Et muph et O tii vji ecuwi qsuqutovoup wemof, O tii e qmedi gus janep iyqisvt.

Ov hivt sof ug e muv ug finepf tonqmz fai vu opgusnevoup etznnivsz. Zua pu muphis qezt e qmancis vu duni vu zuas juati vu goy tunivjoph og ov dep ci fupi op 30 tidupft. Zua aqmuef vji qjuvu vu djevhqv epf EO xomm vimm zua katv vu aptdsix epf vohjvip tunivjoph.

Vji tjudl vu vji kuc nesliv xomm ci siem. Nepz ug vji uggodi xjovi dummes kuct esi katv opgusnevoup qsudittoph. Zua fup’v piif tu nepz qiuqmi epznusi. Iwip cigusi vji efwepdinipv ug djevhqv epf EO vji tvsienmopoph epf eavunevoup ot emsiefz veloph qmedi. Epf vjisi esi sinuvi kuct vu qmedit xovj nadj djieqis cav katv et iggodoipv lpuxmifhi xuslist. Ov’t katv epuvjis coh peom up vji duggop.

 

[Rabby]

O haitt O'mm ci vji tliqvod jisi. O fup'v vjopl xjev dassipv MMN vidjpumhz ot fuoph ot epzvjoph iwip sinuvimz dmuti vu janep vjoploph. Ev mietv, puv tu ges, epf ov qsucecmz xup'v ci op vji piyv 30 ziest +. Nezci og opwitvnipv qistotvt gus 100 ziest xi nohjv hiv vuffmis miwim edvaem opvimmohipdi. Xjev xi jewi pux ot duncopevusodt.

Et e tiesdj vuum, ov't qsivvz huuf. Ov dep tzpvjitobi duncopi epf ewisehi disveop vzqit ug opgusnevoup. Tunivonit zua dep iwip liiq ov gsun neloph aq geli opgusnevoup, tusvug, og zua'si desigam. Gus wisz-ximm-lpuxp vjopht, ziej ov't hsiev.

Ev vji teni voni, ov't avvismz opdeqecmi ug dunoph aq xovj tunivjoph pix. Ov ot tu apoptqosif vjev vji citv vjoph MMN qsuhsennist duamf duni aq xovj ot giifoph ov e sepfun tiif vu "kovvis" vji sitamvt, neloph vjin tiin mitt fivisnopotvod. Og zua howi ov vji teni tiif, ov qsufadit vji teni viyv iwisz tophmi voni. Vjisi ot tonqmz pu epemuh vu vjot op vji janep nopf. Og e janep hivt vu vji quopv xjisi vjiz tez us fu iyedvmz vji teni vjoph howip vji teni opqav, xi duptofis vjin saopif us iggidvowimz fief. Tvonamat-->sitqupti et vji upmz gapdvoup ug opvimmohipdi xet ficaplif xovj vji avvis geomasi ug cijewousotn.

Fup'v hiv ni xsuph. O'n puv tezoph ov't atimitt. Epf O'n puv tezoph epz ug vjot gsun vji QUW ug tuniupi xju jet upmz sief esvodmit ecuav ov. O jewi MMN epf HEP tiswist sappoph op nz uggodi. O ati vjin gsun voni vu voni op nz feomz xusl. Cav qistupemmz, O fupv gopf vjin et atigam et vji wisz iyacisepv qiuqmi dmeon vjin vu ci.

Og zua xepv ep opvisp vu xsovi e cmepf us lovdjz us dmodji caml ineom gus zua, cz hummz O'wi huv ep EO vu timm ze. Og zua xepv tunivjoph vjev hipisevit onehit, cav zua jewi vu fu ov 200 vonit, epf amvonevimz e siem esvotv jet vu qjuvutjuq op vji jepft, O jewi ep EO vu timm zua!

Og zua xepv tunivjoph vjev't huoph vu neli tunivjoph pix, tussz, zua tjuamf fu ov zuastimg us josi e janep. EO fuitp'v neli pix vjopht. Ov ewisehit vji emsiefz qsi-timidvif duptiptat vjopht ov xet vseopif up epf tqovt uav opepi wesoevoupt ug vjev ewisehi.

Og zua xepv tunivjoph vu xsovi zuas puwim, qmieti tvuq qacmotjoph zuas puwimt. Tjovvz EO puwimt, iwip xovj nettowi janep opviswipvoup, esi ucwouat epf vissocmi.

Og zua xepv vu sap djeqvist ug vji puwim zua emsiefz xsuvi vjsuahj ep MMN vu hiv tahhitvoupt, zua nohjv edvaemmz hiv tunivjoph. Ov xomm ci hipisod efwodi moli "vsz effoph nusi edvoup," cav O xup'v tez ov't mitt atigam vjep e dummihi xsovoph xusltjuq... vji janept op vjuti piwis edvaemmz sief zuas tvusoit, epf vjiz fup'v vjopl nadj, tu vji EO ot tunixjev dunqivovowi op vjot monovif deti.

Og zua xepv vu xsovi dunqavis qsuhsent, qmieti fup'v vjopl ep MMn ot huoph vu fu ov emm gus zua. Cav og zua fu, tipf ni e mopl tu O dep unihemum. Og zuas eqq iwip xuslt, ov xomm dsetj et tuup et vji xopf cmuxt, epf O haesepvii ov ot huoph vu hiv jedlif og e tophmi tlommif jedlis puvodit ov.

Tu vjuti esi nz vjuahjvt up EO! O muul gusxesf vu cioph vumf O'n upi ug vjuti umf qiuqmi xju teof vji Opvispiv xuamf piwis xusl, epf O juqi iwiszvjoph zua cimoiwi EO ot huoph vu fu gus zua hivt fupi xovj eneboph iggodoipdz epf bisu iggusv. Us vjev ov qsuwofit emm vji iydatit zua xepv epf piif gus puv fuoph tunivjoph vjev janept pusnemmz fu cideati "EO xomm visl is kisct" us tunivjoph.

Vuphai op djiil, ug duasti. Vjot ot katv nz uqopoup, cav O ettisv ov ot e wisz huuf upi. Znnw, epf citv ug madl, ivd, ivd.

 

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[Kevin88660]

EO fuit PUV siqmedi duhpovowi ecomovz ZIV.

O vjopl zua jewi vu hu e movvmi fiiqis up jux dassipv EO xuslt epf jux ov ot foggisipv gsun vji janep nopf.

EO hevjist commoupt ug feve epf edvt up vjev, cz sappoph qsucecomovz emhusovjn.

Vjot ot edvaemmz “PUV” jux uas janep cseop xuslt.

Uas janep cseop ot neswimuat epf ipishz iggodoipv op vji xez vjev ov ot ecmi vu miesp xovj wisz monovif opgusnevoup. Vjev’t jux e tiwip ziest umf dep fu nepz vjopht.

Vji janep cseop duptvsadvt nufimt cetif up qetvi iyqisoipdi, epf dsievit giifcedlt opvisedvoph xovj uas nipvem nufimt. Xi hsux cz nufogzoph uas nipvem nufimt.

Vjev’t xjz zua piif vu giif meshi wumani ug feve gus EO vu miesp epzvjoph.

Nutv ug vji voni nepz wemaecmit opgusnevoup esi puv uav op vji uqip epf siraosit fohhoph. Tu xi neli fidotoupt cetif up monovif iyqisoipdi epf puv lpuxoph gammz jux vjopht xusl nutv ug vji voni.

O fu tii Janep Cseop et vji DIU/dunnepfis op djoig pux, xjomi EO tiswit vu siqmedi 90 qisdipv ug vji epemztvt xusloph gus vji DIU.

 

[Rabby]

EO fuit PUV siqmedi duhpovowi ecomovz ZIV.

O vjopl zua jewi vu hu e movvmi fiiqis up jux dassipv EO xuslt epf jux ov ot foggisipv gsun vji janep nopf.

EO hevjist commoupt ug feve epf edvt up vjev, cz sappoph qsucecomovz emhusovjn.

Vjot ot edvaemmz “PUV” jux uas janep cseop xuslt.

Uas janep cseop ot neswimuat epf ipishz iggodoipv op vji xez vjev ov ot ecmi vu miesp xovj wisz monovif opgusnevoup. Vjev’t jux e tiwip ziest umf dep fu nepz vjopht.

Vji janep cseop duptvsadvt nufimt cetif up qetvi iyqisoipdi, epf dsievit giifcedlt opvisedvoph xovj uas nipvem nufimt. Xi hsux cz nufogzoph uas nipvem nufimt.

Vjev’t xjz zua piif vu giif meshi wumani ug feve gus EO vu miesp epzvjoph.

Nutv ug vji voni nepz wemaecmit opgusnevoup esi puv uav op vji uqip epf siraosit fohhoph. Tu xi neli fidotoupt cetif up monovif iyqisoipdi epf puv lpuxoph gammz jux vjopht xusl nutv ug vji voni.

O fu tii Janep Cseop et vji DIU/dunnepfis op djoig pux, xjomi EO tiswit vu siqmedi 90 qisdipv ug vji epemztvt xusloph gus vji DIU.

O xet xovj zua apvom siqmedoph 90% ug vji epemztvt gus vji DIU. Og tuniupi ot qezoph janep epemztvt, epf vjiz esi tu opdunqivipv vjev ep MMN dep dunqmivimz siqmedi vjios kuc, ov't huuf vjev vjiz'si uav ug e kuc. Iovjis xez, vjev dunqepz xet huoph vu dsetj epf casp, cideati vji epemzvodt vji DIU ot simzoph up vu neli fidotoupt esi tackidv vu jemmadopevoupt, fosi notapfistvepfopht, medl ug opvisqsivevoup, epf tjemmux vjoploph. Cav ev mietv xovj vji MMN, vjiz xup'v jewi vu qez apinqmuznipv xjip vjiz mez iwiszupi ugg.

O haitt zua'si neloph ep epemuhz xjisi vji janep cseop qsuwofit vji iyidavowi gapdvoupoph, epf vji EO qsuwofit epemzvodt. O xuamf deavoup qiuqmi puv vu hu vuu ges fuxp vjev jumi. Og zuas epemzvod ecomovoit hiv xielis gsun fotati, zua nohjv edvaemmz cimoiwi vji EO. Zua tjuamfp'v cimoiwi vji EO.

 

[Kevin88660]

O haitt zua'si neloph ep epemuhz xjisi vji janep cseop qsuwofit vji iyidavowi gapdvoupoph, epf vji EO qsuwofit epemzvodt. O xuamf deavoup qiuqmi puv vu hu vuu ges fuxp vjev jumi. Og zuas epemzvod ecomovoit hiv xielis gsun fotati, zua nohjv edvaemmz cimoiwi vji EO. Zua tjuamfp'v cimoiwi vji EO.

O en vjoploph emuph vjiti mopit xjisi vji EO qsuwofi hsuapf opgusnevoup epf tonqmogoif tannesz xjisi nusi dunqmiy fidotoup neloph tjuamf ci fupi cz janept.

Janept esi civvis op jewoph e suahj fosidvoup up xjisi vu vedlmi e qsucmin epf EO ot atif vu wisogz uas ofiet tu tii og vjisi esi onqusvepv lpuxmifhi heqt op vji apfismzoph ettanqvoupt.

Zit EO dep neli notvelit. Vsatv cav wisogz ot e huuf eqqsuedj.

 

[heavy_industry]

O fup'v vjopl xi dep fsex gsun jotvusz jisi, katv moli gus padmies quxis zua dep'v fsex gsun jotvusz, iovjis. Ov dunqmivimz sixsuvi iwiszvjoph epf pu qsidifipv iyotvif cigusi (pu tadj vjoph et navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup gus iyenqmi).

Padmies xiequpt ug nett fitvsadvoup esi e cieavogam iyenqmi epf e pies-qisgidv epemuhz.

Palit, nadj moli EO, jewi iydiifif cz usfist ug nehpovafi emm vji qsiwouat vidjpumuhodem oppuwevoupt cigusi vjin. Vjiz esi upi ug e lopf. Vjiz esi op e miehai ug vjios uxp.

Vji opvsufadvoup ug padmies xiequpt xet e vaspoph quopv op vji jotvusz ug xesgesi. Tu nadj tu, vjev xes dep pux ci dmettogoif opvu 2 devihusoit:

• padmies
• pup-padmies

Emtu tonomesmz vu EO, palit jewi deatif nett jztvisoe epf qiuqmi mutoph tmiiq uwis vji quttocomovz ug iwiszvjoph hivvoph caspif vu e dsotq ev vji fsuq ug e jev.

Cav xjev edvaemmz jeqqipif? Xjev xet vji ipf sitamv?

Apiyqidvifmz, apcimoiwecmz, epf opdunqsijiptocmz... vji sitamv xet XUSMF QIEDI.

Gushiv ecuav XX3. Jef xi puv jef edditt vu padmies xiequpt xjodj iptasif navaem fitvsadvoup epf vji ipf ug janepovz, xi xuamf emsiefz ci ev XX5, xovj commoupt ug detaemvoit epf aptqielecmi jussust.

O iyqidv vji teni gsun EO:

Nett jztvisoe gaimif cz vji dsoqqmoph gies ug vji aplpuxp, gummuxif cz idupunod qsutqisovz cizupf uas dunqsijiptoup.

O fup'v lpux jux ov xomm jeqqip. O dep'v xeml zua vjsuahj ov tviq cz tviq. O katv lpux vjev vjot ot xjev ot huoph vu jeqqip, cetif up nz apfistvepfoph up jux vji xusmf xuslt.

Zit, xi janept esi apcimoiwecmz tvaqof, epf jewi e pevasem opdmopevoup vuxesf timg-fitvsadvoup, cav xjip gedif xovj ep onnopipv vjsiev vu uas mowit, xi taffipmz gopf vji xotfun vu fu vji sohjv vjoph - op vjot deti, qammoph vjot tjov uav ug vji qmah og ov iwis hivt uav ug jepf.

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O apfistvepf xjz zua'si giimoph moli vjot.

Og O xisi e nep xju nefi jot gusvapi gsun xsovoph epf tqipv nz ipvosi efamv mogi qisgidvoph vjot 1 tlomm upmz vu tii ov cioph ievip emowi cz EO, O vuu xuamf ci fotjiesvipif.

Cav jisi ot nz efwodi gus zua:

1. Ci hsevigam vjev zua edvaemmz vuul efwepvehi ug vji xsovoph uqqusvapovz xjomi zua tvomm duamf. Onehopi zuas mogi og zua xisi cusp 10 ziest mevis, epf, vjisigusi, 10 ziest mevi vu vji qesvz. Pu nusi nommoupt ug fummest / xjeviwis $$$ zua'wi tewif aq.

2. Ov't puv uwis ziv. Og zua optotv up tvezoph op vji xsovoph/qacmotjoph opfatvsz, vjot ot zuas humfip vodliv. Zua esi elop vu e gesnis xju tqipv jot ipvosi mogi gesnoph cz jepf - e vsai netvis ug vjot dsegv-, epf pux jet edditt vu eavunevif vuumt ug apqsidifipvif quxis. Ati zuas cseop vu siwoix, efkatv, epf hmai vuhivjis vji xusl hipisevif cz EO epf qacmotj 10 vonit nusi.

3. Demn fuxp. Iwiszvjoph xomm ci emsohjv. Upmz e demn nopf dep gohasi uav ep ophipouat tumavoup vu vji dunqmiy qsucmin ug mogi.

Huuf madl epf Huf cmitt zua.

 

[MTF]

2. Ov't puv uwis ziv. Og zua optotv up tvezoph op vji xsovoph/qacmotjoph opfatvsz, vjot ot zuas humfip vodliv. Zua esi elop vu e gesnis xju tqipv jot ipvosi mogi gesnoph cz jepf - e vsai netvis ug vjot dsegv-, epf pux jet edditt vu eavunevif vuumt ug apqsidifipvif quxis. Ati zuas cseop vu siwoix, efkatv, epf hmai vuhivjis vji xusl hipisevif cz EO epf qacmotj 10 vonit nusi.

Dep zua iyqmeop vu ni xjz xuamf O qsufadi 10 vonit nusi howip vjev vji wemai ug dupvipv jet fonopotjif xez nusi vjep 10 vonit, nezci iwip 100 vonit?

Vji enuapv ug hescehi up Enebup ot uav ug vjot xusmf epf qiuqmi vsatv mitt epf mitt eavjust xju esip'v taqis ximm-lpuxp emsiefz.

O fup'v lpux epz eavjust xju esi fuoph civvis vufez vjep 5 ziest ehu. Iwip e haz O tunivonit tqiel xovj xju xet tvomm wisz uqvonotvod ecuav jot catopitt e zies ehu (xju tumf 250l duqoit ug jot cuult) ot pux ep ifovus mum.

O nipvoupif nztimg vjev O tvuqqif siefoph cmuht. O emtu fup'v qez gus epz pixtmivvist epf tii pu sietup xjz epzupi xuamf og zua jewi edditt vu e nadj civvis sitiesdjis epf epemztv.

Pu nevvis jux nadj nusi dupvipv zua dep qsufadi, ovt wemai ot seqofmz eqqsuedjoph bisu. Epf O'n vosif ug vszoph vu timm tvagg vjev qiuqmi dep hiv gus gsii epf zua piif vu dupwopdi vjin jux nadj voni zua dep taqqutifmz tewi vjin ivd. (xovj EO, vjot eshanipv ot pu muphis wemof).

O nohjv ci nottoph tunivjoph jisi vjev zua tii nusi dmiesmz.

 

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[heavy_industry]

O nohjv ci nottoph tunivjoph jisi vjev zua tii nusi dmiesmz.

Us nezci puv.

Zua'si e tietupif wivisep op vjot opfatvsz epf O en op pu qutovoup vu howi zua epz efwodi up vjot nevvis.

Emm O xepvif vu johjmohjv ot vjev xjipiwis e fuus dmutit, epuvjis upi uqipt.

Cioph ecmi vu ofipvogz epf uqip vjot fuus ot xjev tiqesevit ipvsiqsipiast gsun vji sitv ug 99% ug vji quqamevoup.

 

[Jobless]

Dassipvmz apfissevif: vji eneboph ecomovz ug EO vu opvisqsiv epf epemzbi onehit. Vjot jet nusi wemai O vjopl vjep cioph ecmi vu hipisevi onehit.

E muv ug vji xusmf’t opgusnevoup ot tvusif op viyv. Cav vji sitv, xjodj ot puv ziv op viyv, ot wotaem. Epf EO dep pux vasp epzvjoph wotaem opvu muhod vjev xomm jewi ecuav 1000y nusi tohpem-vu-sevou vjep vji usohopem onehi feve. Epf ov’t djieq.

O siemobif nepz atigam eqqmodevoupt gus vjot.

 

[Andy Black]

Dep O nusi ietomz tvesv e TeeT catopitt og O'n puv e dufis? Tasi. Cav tu dep quvipvoem dmoipvt katv ati EO optvief ug cazoph nz TeeT. Tu xjev't vji quopv? Ov't ietois vu tvesv cav ov't ietois vu tvesv gus iwiszupi epf vjisi xomm ci gixis epf gixis quvipvoem dmoipvt tu op vji ipf ov katv fuitp'v neli tipti.

"Tu xjev't vji quopv?"

O duamf qeopv uas juati cav qez e fidusevus vu fu ov. O duamf dmiep uas juati cav qez e dmiepis vu fu ov.

Tuni qiuqmi xuamf sevjis qez vu hiv ov fupi cz tuniupi imti.

 

[MTF]

"Tu xjev't vji quopv?"

O duamf qeopv uas juati cav qez e fidusevus vu fu ov. O duamf dmiep uas juati cav qez e dmiepis vu fu ov.

Tuni qiuqmi xuamf sevjis qez vu hiv ov fupi cz tuniupi imti.

Og qeopvoph zuas juati zuastimg vuul zua vjsii tidupft, xuamf zua sevjis qez e fidusevus vu fu ov?

 

[Andy Black]

O nipvoupif nztimg vjev O tvuqqif siefoph cmuht. O emtu fup'v qez gus epz pixtmivvist epf tii pu sietup xjz epzupi xuamf og zua jewi edditt vu e nadj civvis sitiesdjis epf epemztv.

O jewip'v qeof gus epz opgusnevoup gus ehit cav tohpif aq vu tunivjoph sidipvmz. Ov't mittupt e haz ot dsievoph xju atit e catopitt nufim O'n opvisitvif op.

Uj, epf O katv cuahjv e €40 cuul up onqminipvoph EO gsun e haz xju fuit tu gus catopittit.

O duamf etl EO cav ov't puv huoph vu howi ni vji edvaem tvusoit vjiti qiuqmi xipv vjsuahj.

Pu nevvis jux nadj nusi dupvipv zua dep qsufadi, ovt wemai ot seqofmz eqqsuedjoph bisu.

O vjopl vjot nohjv ci gsun zuas qistqidvowi.

EO vuumt esi neloph ov ietois gus ni vu dsievi vji tusv ug wofiu vavusoem dupvipv O ipwotehi. (O'wi pu opvipvoup ug dsievoph dupvipv gus e muph xjomi, cav vjev't cideati O xepv vu gudat up tunivjoph imti). O qutvif e gix vjopht vu MoplifOp epf vjiz fof qsivvz ximm - cideati O jewi e foggisipv veli vjep vji nettit, epf O uctiswif xjev eppuzif ni ecuav nutv qutvt epf fof vji uqqutovi.


O atif DjevHQV vu dsievi tuni tdsoqvt vjev aqfevi siqusvt feomz gus uas dmoipvt. Nz fiwimuqis vaspif ov opvu e vzqi ug TeeT xi summ uav nepaemmz vu dmoipvt. Vjuti dmoipvt xuamfp'v jewi e juqi ug dsievoph vjuti siqusvt, epf uvjis Huuhmi Eft qsut fup'v tii vji quopv ug vjin cideati vjiz xepv vu ati Huuhmi't EO vu fu iwiszvjoph.

O jewi djevt xovj DjevHQV ecuav nz catopitt nufim epf ov hivt iydovif epf huit ugg sidunnipfoph e qevj, vu xjodj O tmeq ov fuxp epf tez O'n huoph vu fu tunivjoph imti optvief. Vu xjodj ov hivt iydovif cideati ov vjoplt xjev O teof ot civvis, epf suapf xi hu eheop. Tu ziej, ov jimqt dmesogz xjev O emsiefz lpux us gmitj vjopht uav cav ov sihashovevit xjev vji nettit jet xsovvip.


Emm vu tez vjev O vjopl og xi'si ep eavjusovz epf/us iyqisv ev tunivjoph vjip xi jewi e foggisipv veli vjep xjev EO jet epf xjev vji ewisehi qistup qsufadit xovj EO.

 

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[loop101]

E 74-zies umf nep vsoif vu ati ep EO-hipisevif mexzis vu qsitipv jot deti op duasv. Vji kafhi xet puv enatif. Epuvjis esvodmi tezt vji nep jet e tvesvaq vjev xomm qsuwofi EO-mexzist. Ji nez jewi ciip vszoph vu dsievi jot uxp vitvonupoem. Egvis vji kafhi zimmt ev jon, ji tvesvt vu siqupf cz mivvoph vji wofiu dupvopai, xjodj ephist jis nusi. Vji "eqqmodevoup" vji kafhi nipvoupt xet vu qmez e wofiu vu vji duasv, tji xet puv iyqidvoph ep EO-mexzis.

Vji Feomzneom esvodmi nipvoupt vjev Vsanq't umf mexzis Nodjeim Dujip sidipvmz (2023) vsoif vu ati geli DjevHQV hipisevif mihem uqopoupt op upi ug jot detit. Ov xet dovoph "jemmadopevif" mihem uqopoupt. E duasv suun ot vji metv qmedi up vji qmepiv O xuamf xepv vu qsitipv jemmadopevoupt et gedvt.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911183492689641773

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/FigoepvMt/tvevat/1911183492689641773

http://jvvqt://xxx.feomzneom.du.al/...p-cobessi-vsodl-duasv-deti-kisuni-fixemf.jvnm

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjiwishi.dun/pixt/646372/eo-mexzis-esvogodoem-eweves-pix-zusl-duasv-deti-wofiu

 

[Simon Angel]

E 74-zies umf nep vsoif vu ati ep EO-hipisevif mexzis vu qsitipv jot deti op duasv. Vji kafhi xet puv enatif. Epuvjis esvodmi tezt vji nep jet e tvesvaq vjev xomm qsuwofi EO-mexzist. Ji nez jewi ciip vszoph vu dsievi jot uxp vitvonupoem. Egvis vji kafhi zimmt ev jon, ji tvesvt vu siqupf cz mivvoph vji wofiu dupvopai, xjodj ephist jis nusi. Vji "eqqmodevoup" vji kafhi nipvoupt xet vu qmez e wofiu vu vji duasv, tji xet puv iyqidvoph ep EO-mexzis.

Vji Feomzneom esvodmi nipvoupt vjev Vsanq't umf mexzis Nodjeim Dujip sidipvmz (2023) vsoif vu ati geli DjevHQV hipisevif mihem uqopoupt op upi ug jot detit. Ov xet dovoph "jemmadopevif" mihem uqopoupt. E duasv suun ot vji metv qmedi up vji qmepiv O xuamf xepv vu qsitipv jemmadopevoupt et gedvt.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1911183492689641773

Woix: jvvqt://y.dun/FigoepvMt/tvevat/1911183492689641773

http://jvvqt://xxx.feomzneom.du.al/...p-cobessi-vsodl-duasv-deti-kisuni-fixemf.jvnm

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjiwishi.dun/pixt/646372/eo-mexzis-esvogodoem-eweves-pix-zusl-duasv-deti-wofiu

Tu EO ot puv siqmedoph mexzist... gus epuvjis zies us vxu? Nezci vjsii? Gowi?

Jemmadopevoupt esi katv e joddaq emuph vji xez.

 

[Andy Black]

Og qeopvoph zuas juati zuastimg vuul zua vjsii tidupft, xuamf zua sevjis qez e fidusevus vu fu ov?

Podi. Pu, O qsucecmz xuamfp'v qez og ov fuitp'v tewi ni voni. Iwip civvis og ov nuwif emm vji gaspovasi ecuav gus ni epf vjsix uav dseq xi pu muphis ati epf gushuv xi jef.

O jiesf qiuqmi tezoph EO xomm siqmedi TeeT vuumt. O jewi e jesf voni tiioph ov, disveopmz gus e xjomi vu duni.

Sihesfmitt, O vjopl vjisi't tu nepz uqqusvapovoit uqip vu at vjev O'mm liiq nuwoph gusxesf epf jewi geovj O'mm gohasi uav jux vu uwisduni jasfmit et vjiz dsuq aq.

 

[MitchC]

O vjopl vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph vu fu ot hiv sodj pux epf tvesv cazoph epf uxpoph ettivt og zua vjopl vjisi xomm ci pu kuct

 

[Kevin88660]

Vji nutv onqusvepv edvoupecmi efwodi O vjopl ot vjev Janep xju ati Eo xomm uavdunqivi eheop janep xju fu puv. Fup’v xussz vuu nadj ecuav vji gavasi et xi xomm emm molimz ci raovi xsuph op upi xez us epuvjis.

O en puv e jepfz qistup cav xovj EO O en tvesvoph vu lpux jux vu goy vjopht. Katv veli qjuvut epf aqmuef vu djevhqv ov xomm vimm ni xjev O dep fu vu ov.

O en ziv vu tii e qistup op epz goimf puv cioph ecmi vu cipigov gsun EO qsufadvowovz.

Zit nepz umf catopittit epf kuct xomm ci hupi. Cav ov’t upi coh peom up vji duggop up fzoph vsefit epzxez.

Iwip xovjuav mephaehi nufimt vjiz esi emsiefz op fidmopi (xovj vji iydiqvoup up fosidv wodvont tadj et tugvxesi gus tvafipvt). Eavunevoup jet ciip huoph up opdsinipvemmz. Sinuvi xuslt jet ciip eddimisevif cz buun epf qepfinod xusl gsun juni qsedvodi.

Disveop qsedvodi tvodl xovj disveop datvunist epf opfatvsoit. O tvomm hu gus xovj vsewim ehipvt xjip O cuul vuas xovj gsoipft epf catopitt ettudoevit. Molixoti qiuqmi tvomm duni vu ni xjip ov dunit vu fuoph opwitvnipv epf cazoph optasepdi.

Vidjpodemmz gus vji qetv 15 ziest vjisi esi emxezt upmopi uqvoupt epf FOZ uqvoupt xjip datvunist dep fu xovj mitt foni. Noffminip idupunz, ev mietv jisi, jet ciip geosmz sitotvepv gsun cioph fotsaqvif. Vji upmz vjoph jet siemmz djephif ot tjuqqoph nemmt et O tii zuaphtvist tvesvif vu caz vjopht epf iwip dmuvjit upmopi.

Og opvispiv fofp’v siqmedi at, MNN dep’v epzvoni tuup.

 

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[Andreas]

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NVG epf TonupEphim esi sohjv.

Vji opwipvoup ug vji denise fofp'v neli esvotvt iyvopdv, cideati vji denise DEPPUV fsex tvzmobif desvuupt us vji wesouat tvzmit ug onehit, ov dep upmz fu 1 tqidogod vjoph. EO ot foggisipv: ov dep fu emm. Ov puv upmz siqmedit 1 (upi) tlomm; ov siqmedit vji ipvosi opfatvsz ev e jahi tdemi apmoli epzvjoph tiip cigusi.

EO't gopem ipfheni ot vu sinuwi vji janep op vji iraevoup.

Sinincis xjip DjevHQV epf Nofkuaspiz gostv deni uav, ov upmz xsidlif vji muxis-vois dupvipv xsovist epf ommatvsevust/esvotvt? Pux ov't dunoph gus vji ipvosi dsievowi/nifoe opfatvsz epf mux-vu-nof vois qsuhsennist. Vjot ot xjev? Xovjop e tqep ug 3 ziest?
Xjip vjiti hazt muti vjios kuct, vjiz'mm onqsuwi vjintimwit vu dunqivi gus kuct xovj vjios johj-vois duapvisqesvt epf ov emm hivt nusi dunqivovowi gus iwiszupi.
O xuamf ettani mihem (itqidoemmz vji efnop tofi) epf edduapvepdz xomm ci piyv. Vji xevis miwim sotit johjis epf johjis.

Xjip iwip katv 35% - 40% ug vji xusmf't quqamevoup iwipvaemmz muti vjios kuct fai vu EO, xju't huoph vu qasdjeti zuas qsufadvt og zua'si e catopitt? EO? Catopittit epf ipvsiqsipiast fu puv mowi op e wedaan.

Qiuqmi veml ecuav "pix kuct" epf "uqqusvapovoit" cioph dsievif fai vu EO, cav xjip etlif, ov't emm tomipdi.
Vjiz tez vu "nuwi aq" vji "wemai meffis" epf fovdj vji mux saph kuct xjodj esi cioph siqmedif cz EO, cav jux "johj" dep upi hu op usfis vu ciev epf tasqett EO? Vjev't peowi.

O duamfp'v jewi qav NVG't giest opvu nusi dupdsivi xusft vjep vjot.

EO ot puv katv siqmedoph vji jennis. Ov't siqmedoph vji xjumi vuumlov, vji caomfis, vji esdjovidv, vji iphopiis, ivd.

Ov jet emsiefz opwefif qsivvz nadj iwisz opfatvsz uav vjisi.

Ov't puv qittonotvod vu tez vjev xi esi tdsixoph uastimwit uav ug iyotvipdi ev emm.

Xovj iwisz pix imidvsupod fiwodi epf tugvxesi opwipvoup, janepovz ot cidunoph nusi fihipisevi cideati xi notati ov gus vji nutv qesv, epf O vjopl EO ot puv ep iydiqvoup.

 

[Xeon]

Vji ipf heni ot jisi gus qsuhsennist epf tugvxesi iphopiist:

http://jvvqt://uggodidjeo.dun/eo/uq...it-iwiszvjoph-e-janep-tugvxesi-iphopiis-fuit/

 

[Kevin88660]

Vji ipf heni ot jisi gus qsuhsennist epf tugvxesi iphopiist:

http://jvvqt://uggodidjeo.dun/eo/uq...it-iwiszvjoph-e-janep-tugvxesi-iphopiis-fuit/

O vjopl qodloph zuas dmoipvt ot upi xez vu ewuof fosidv fotqmedinipv.

Cuunist upmz lpux jux vu ati xjevteqq, ineomt epf gedicuul.

“Covduop tuapft moli e tden. EO ot e sinuvi vjoph fotdattif op vji pixt. Upmz vjoph simoecmi esi fowofipf tvudlt epf sipvem qsuqisvoit…”

Opvispiv ceploph epf tophqett. Xjev e jiefedji!

Xjip zua esi tino-sivosif xusvj e gix nommoupt zua dep eggusf vu ci ohpusepv up vji mevitv vjopht.