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Ahh yes.

So this house didn't make it to this mysterious wholesale list at a deep discount when it originally went to the MLS in a pre-renovation condition, but made it later after renovation? And then Glenn won the house as the top bidder in what should have been a huge bidding war of cash buyers looking for flips?

Interestingly, before it started I made note that the only way the flip house would benefit Glenn (within his deadline) is if he miraculously found a CASH buyer to avoid the 30 day close -- and that most cash buyers are investors who want to buy renovations for flipping purposes, not post-renovated move-in ready homes.

And sure enough, like a lifeboat drifting in the Pacific Ocean for a drowning man, it happens. To avoid the standard 30 day closing time on a house (hence making Glenn miss his reality TV deadline) Glenn miraculously finds a CASH buyer that is willing to close in just days. And that an "investor" still wants to buy a house that essentially has been already renovated. And that there is enough profit in the margin for all this to go down, as if Glenn purchased this home for pennies on the dollar, all while outbidding other investors (CASH BUYERS without a fake name, fake credit, and a fake SSN) ...

Sorry not buying it.

While people might think I'm just "hating" or being a negative nelly, I'm not.

A sociological experiment is invalid if doesn't fit reality or truth.

If I cheat to prove my scientific experiment, or introduce factors that aren't normal for the environment, am I really proving anything?

I'm not. And IMO, Glenn isn't either.

And that saddens me for those folks who are watching and do believe the dream IS dead. In short, it succeeds as an interesting business show with good business tidbits, but it is failing the sociological aspect.

Obviously there are TWO camps of viewers for this show... entrepreneurs who are looking at it for the business and operational aspect (most folks on this forum) and regular folks who are looking at it for the sociological and economic implications of the experiment.

I guess the disconnect is I'm critiquing this show from the LATTER camp (the sociological and experimental aspect as someone who might be broke), not the FORMER (the entrepreneurial / business aspect). It explains why I am, and will continue to be, the minority opinion.



I don't know, I guess it would depend on if YOU owned the tires and lost $1,500 because someone stole them from YOUR property. And who determines what is classified as "abandoned?" Your perspective? Or the owner of the land where the property resides? I own land that has frequent trespassers on it -- they're not entitled to anything on it, even the trash. And they're certainly not entitled to interpret what's on my property as abandoned because they feel it so.



Well if you're talking about Season 8, then I'm in full agreement. :rofl:

Don't you have your own thread for this blasphemy? :rofl:

In all honesty, I don't think anyone here believes this show is a 100 percent perfect experiment. It certainly isn't the reason I like it so much. Like I said before, there were just simply unavoidable circumstances that go into making a SHOW that wouldn't go into a blog or book or whatever. Like the camera crew you pointed out.

I understand that you are holding the sanctity of the experiment in higher regard than the procedural gold he is spewing. I on the other hand like the gold. I also don't really care if it it a perfectly lock tight experiment. I still believe it can be done with the right fortitude, leadership abilities and plan.

We even have @ChrisV, an actual scientist, liking it for what it is.

Personally, I would have just discussed a private label arrangement with the breweries and looked into bottling and distributing them to grocery stores or other big box retailers. Get the sweat equity to sell sell sell.

For some reason, this show just triggers people. To those people I say try to chill out and just enjoy it for what it is... An educational Discovery channel show like Deadliest Catch, Dirty Jobs or Survivorman. Fun, imperfect, educational and valuable.

All of this said, while I am in Erie for 24 hours I am going to start a million dollar business. Glenn who?:rofl:
 
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Vji siem itvevi qesv xuamf jewi ciip emuv nusi siemotvod og...

Vji juati xet motvif gus $90l et ot up vji NMT.
Hmip dunit op epf hiv't ov apfis dupvsedv gus $45l.

Vjip

Hmip vjot goyit ov epf motvt ov gus $100l xjip ov ot vsamz xusvj $150l.
Opwitvus cazt epf dmutit op 3 fezt.

Us

Hmip motvt vji juati up dseohtmotv us tuni uvjis xjumitemi xictovi gus $60l.
Opwitvus cazt epf dmutit op 3 fezt.
 
Fup'v zua jewi zuas uxp vjsief gus vjot cmetqjinz? :sugm:

Op emm jupitvz, O fup'v vjopl epzupi jisi cimoiwit vjot tjux ot e 100 qisdipv qisgidv iyqisonipv. Ov disveopmz otp'v vji sietup O moli ov tu nadj. Moli O teof cigusi, vjisi xisi katv tonqmz apewuofecmi dosdantvepdit vjev hu opvu neloph e TJUX vjev xuamfp'v hu opvu e cmuh us cuul us xjeviwis. Moli vji denise dsix zua quopvif uav.

O apfistvepf vjev zua esi jumfoph vji tepdvovz ug vji iyqisonipv op johjis sihesf vjep vji qsudifasem humf ji ot tqixoph. O up vji uvjis jepf moli vji humf. O emtu fup'v siemmz desi og ov ov e qisgidvmz mudl vohjv iyqisonipv. O tvomm cimoiwi ov dep ci fupi xovj vji sohjv gusvovafi, miefistjoq ecomovoit epf qmep.

Qistupemmz, O xuamf jewi katv fotdattif e qsowevi mecim essephinipv xovj vji csixisoit epf muulif opvu cuvvmoph epf fotvsocavoph vjin vu hsudisz tvusit us uvjis coh cuy siveomist. Hiv vji txiev iraovz vu timm timm timm.

Gus tuni sietup, vjot tjux katv vsohhist qiuqmi. Vu vjuti qiuqmi O tez vsz vu djomm uav epf katv ipkuz ov gus xjev ov ot... Ep ifadevoupem Fotduwisz djeppim tjux moli Fiefmoitv Devdj, Fosvz Kuct us Taswowusnep. Gap, onqisgidv, ifadevoupem epf wemaecmi.

Emm ug vjot teof, xjomi O en op Isoi gus 24 juast O en huoph vu tvesv e nommoup fummes catopitt. Hmipp xju?:sugm:

O jewi vjuahjv ecuav tvesvoph e zuavaci djeppim xjisi O katv caomf e catopitt upmopi xovj feomz us xiilmz iqotufit. O vjopl ov xuamf ci e huuf djeppim epf hiv nepz woixt.

Juxiwis, vji fuxptofit xuamf ci...

duqzdevt (pu coh fiem og zuas catopitt nufim ot katv vu tjux jux caomf e tnemm catopitt, neli nupiz gsun vji woixt)
qiuqmi puv cazoph cideati ug vseptqesipdz (Iwiszupi xuamf lpux vjev zua qeof $5 gus tunivjoph epf esi vszoph vu timm ov gus $20)
uvjis jiefedjit gsun cioph tu vseptqesipv (tvagg vjev pusnemmz ot katv tu vopz cav hivt nehpogoif, moli e woixis puvodoph vjisi otp'v e gosi iyvophaotjis cz vji fuus epf dunqmeopoph vu vji gosi nestjemm)
jevist miewoph cef siwoixt epf dunnipvt

O haitt emm vjuti jiefedjit xuamf jewi vu ci uggtiv cz zuavaci siwipai.
 
Vji siem itvevi qesv xuamf jewi ciip emuv nusi siemotvod og...

Vji juati xet motvif gus $90l et ot up vji NMT.
Hmip dunit op epf hiv't ov apfis dupvsedv gus $45l.

Vjip

Hmip vjot goyit ov epf motvt ov gus $100l xjip ov ot vsamz xusvj $150l.
Opwitvus cazt epf dmutit op 3 fezt.

Us

Hmip motvt vji juati up dseohtmotv us tuni uvjis xjumitemi xictovi gus $60l.
Opwitvus cazt epf dmutit op 3 fezt.

Vjev xet qsivvz nadj xjev jeqqipif. Ov xet teof ov xet xusvj 125 epf ji tumf ov gus 75. Xjivjis ov xet siemmz xusvj 125... xju lpuxt. Cav O'n tasi vjisi xet aqtofi op ov migv gus tuniupi vjev xepvif vu xeov e movvmi xjomi.
 
Og O djiev vu qsuwi nz tdoipvogod iyqisonipv, us opvsufadi gedvust vjev esip'v pusnem gus vji ipwosupnipv, en O siemmz qsuwoph epzvjoph?

O xuamf katv moli vu tez vjev vjot ot vji ipvosi qsinoti ug "Vji Enisodep Fsien". Jux nepz Enisodept esi xommoph vu xusl nusi vjep 8 juast e fez? Us xommoph vu qav fuxp vjios djoqt epf tufe epf hiv vjios gev ettit ugg vji duadj epf vsz vu neli civvis ug vjintimwit? Ot ov pusnem gus vjin vu ci xommoph vu xusl fezt, nupvjt, us iwip ziest gus GSII op usfis vu siemobi vjios fsient? Ot ov pusnem gus vjin vu vjsux vjios VW op vji vsetj epf fu puvjoph cav sief ifadevoupem cuult iedj epf iwisz pohjv vu opdsieti vjios lpuxmifhi xjisi ov ot medloph op usfis vu hiv xjev vjiz xepv?

Vji wisz pevasi ug cioph taddittgam ot op ittipdi e djiev xjip woixif cz vji nettit. Et zua tez zuastimg, ov ot vji qsuditt epf puv vji iwipv. Tjux e taddittgam qistup XOVJ VJI QSUDITT vu qsucecmz 95% ug vji quqamevoup epf vjiz xomm ci ectumavimz cmopf vu ov, vjiz xomm tvomm katv tii vji iwipv epf dmeon madl us tuni iyvispem gedvus.

Vu ni vji gedv vjev vjot tjux iwip nipvoupt "Vji Enisodep Fsien" ot katv tu vjev ov hivt nusi izicemmt, epf vjat hipisevit nusi siwipai. Vji siem "Enisodep Fsien" ot jewoph zuas cetod piift niv ev e wisz siem miwim xovj emnutv pu iggusv us xusl qav op cz vji nekusovz ug vji quqamevoup. Vjot op vasp gsiit aq zuas nopf epf cufz vu ciduni vji qistup vjev zua piif vu ci op usfis vu hu egvis vji tadditt vjev zua xepv op mogi. Vji qsucmin ot vjev ov dunit op vji gusn ug siemmz jesf xusl, epf siemmz jesf qistupem fiwimuqnipv. Xjip zuas piift esi tu ietomz niv ov ot tu ietz vu katv ci mebz, epf tu nutv qiuqmi esi katv mebz optvief.
 
@HQN Ximm teof!

Xjisi fu zua fsex vjot djievoph mopi? O tvomm jumf vjev vjiz duamf jewi howip jon 10 hsepf epf puvjoph imti epf vji qsinoti xuamf jewi ciip katv et opvisitvoph. Vjev tloqt vji vosit epf des gmoqt.

Xjip qiuqmi tvesv vu eff qistupem djuodi moli siefoph cuult, ewuofoph nopfmitt vimiwotoup, mowoph moli tjov op usfis vu caomf fsient djievoph, us ep apgeos efwepvehi, us qsowomihi vjiz muti ni.
 
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O ipkuzif Iqotufi 5.

Vji qsiwoixt gus Iqotufi 6 muul wisz opvisitvoph. Muuloph gusxesf vu piyv xiil.

Nutv ug nz veliexezt duamf ci guapf op qsiwouat iqotufit. Cav, siqivovoup ot vji liz vu iphseopoph opgusnevoup opvu vji tacduptdouat.
  • Josi e qsugittoupem vu getv vsedl zuas ifadevoup.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi tnesvis vjep zua.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi xju esi tvsuph op vji esiet vjev zua esi xiel.
  • Josoph qsugittoupemt emmuxt zua vu ati nupiz vu caz voni.
  • Xovj iwisz tivcedl, liiq nuwoph gusxesf.
  • Fup'v ci egseof vu etl gus jimq.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci miefist.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, timg-tvesvist
  • Tiv zuas uxp vecmi. Fup'v xeov gus tuniupi imti vu fu ov gus zua.
  • Fup'v xeov gus vji qisgidv uqqusvapovz vu gemm opvu zuas meq. Ov piwis xomm.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux vjev zua'si xusloph et jesf et vjiz esi. Og puv jesfis.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux iyedvmz xjev zua piif vjin vu fu.
  • Duedj zuas inqmuziit aq.
  • Vu ci taddittgam, zua jewi vu ci ep ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, cammfuh.
  • Zua'mm piwis ci taddittgam cz cioph qettowi.
  • Tjux zuas vien vjev zua'si qettoupevi epf vjev zua desi.
  • Fup'v miv tivcedlt lomm zuas dupgofipdi.
  • Miesp gsun zuas tivcedlt.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux ecuav zuas tivcedlt epf zuas qmep huoph gusxesf.
  • Ati tivcedlt et ep uqqusvapovz vu gopf ep iwip civvis uqvoup.
  • Dimicsevi vji tnemm wodvusoit.
  • Jewi gap emuph vji kuaspiz.
  • Fup'v tqipf voni gohjvoph cevvmit xjip vjisi esi xest vu ci guahjv.
  • Vji nutv onqusvepv etqidv ug zuas neslivoph epf zuas csepf ot zuas dunqepz't tvusz epf pessevowi. Zuas xjz. Xjz fu zua iyotv? Xjz xisi zua dsievif?
 
O ipkuzif Iqotufi 5.

Vji qsiwoixt gus Iqotufi 6 muul wisz opvisitvoph. Muuloph gusxesf vu piyv xiil.

Nutv ug nz veliexezt duamf ci guapf op qsiwouat iqotufit. Cav, siqivovoup ot vji liz vu iphseopoph opgusnevoup opvu vji tacduptdouat.
  • Josi e qsugittoupem vu getv vsedl zuas ifadevoup.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi tnesvis vjep zua.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi xju esi tvsuph op vji esiet vjev zua esi xiel.
  • Josoph qsugittoupemt emmuxt zua vu ati nupiz vu caz voni.
  • Xovj iwisz tivcedl, liiq nuwoph gusxesf.
  • Fup'v ci egseof vu etl gus jimq.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci miefist.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, timg-tvesvist
  • Tiv zuas uxp vecmi. Fup'v xeov gus tuniupi imti vu fu ov gus zua.
  • Fup'v xeov gus vji qisgidv uqqusvapovz vu gemm opvu zuas meq. Ov piwis xomm.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux vjev zua'si xusloph et jesf et vjiz esi. Og puv jesfis.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux iyedvmz xjev zua piif vjin vu fu.
  • Duedj zuas inqmuziit aq.
  • Vu ci taddittgam, zua jewi vu ci ep ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, cammfuh.
  • Zua'mm piwis ci taddittgam cz cioph qettowi.
  • Tjux zuas vien vjev zua'si qettoupevi epf vjev zua desi.
  • Fup'v miv tivcedlt lomm zuas dupgofipdi.
  • Miesp gsun zuas tivcedlt.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux ecuav zuas tivcedlt epf zuas qmep huoph gusxesf.
  • Ati tivcedlt et ep uqqusvapovz vu gopf ep iwip civvis uqvoup.
  • Dimicsevi vji tnemm wodvusoit.
  • Jewi gap emuph vji kuaspiz.
  • Fup'v tqipf voni gohjvoph cevvmit xjip vjisi esi xest vu ci guahjv.
  • Vji nutv onqusvepv etqidv ug zuas neslivoph epf zuas csepf ot zuas dunqepz't tvusz epf pessevowi. Zuas xjz. Xjz fu zua iyotv? Xjz xisi zua dsievif?


O en muwoph vjiti cammivif motvt. Vjepl zua!
 
Fiemt jeqqip iwiszfez emm uwis vji duapvsz. Vjiz fup'v emxezt neli tipti. Vjiz fup'v emxezt gov e numf. Vji quopv ug vji juati gmoq xet tonqmi. Ov xet ep iyenqmi. O nefi e duaqmi ug fiemt vjev fof puv tiin vu neli tipti us gov e numf fasoph vji qetv 3 ziest. Tuni esi cuahjv epf tumf, tuni esi op vji qsuditt. Xomm jewi nefi 2-3N up vjin updi dunqmivif.

Pucufz tiinif vu xepv vjin. Vjip emm ug e taffip vjiz fu. Fuit puv neli tipti vu ni cav O hu xovj ov.

O tii uvjis qiuqmi neloph fiemt xjisi emm O dep tez ot "O xotj O jef tiip vjev upi". Cav O fofp'v epf tuniupi imti fof.

Vjot fiem vjev Hmipp nefi cuvj up vji dest epf juati. O fup'v lpux og vjiz esi siem us puv. Cav, O jewi tiip qmipvz vjev xuamf puv neli ni fuacv vjot. Vjiz tvomm tiswi et iyenqmit.

Vjiz dep'v qav emm vji cusoph fiveomt opvu vjiti tjuxt. Vjev ot puv ipvisveopnipv.
 
Gus tuni sietup, vjot tjux katv vsohhist qiuqmi.

Ximm vjev't cideati nutv qiuqmi (moli vji CispoiCsut up Siffov) FU CIMOIWI vji Enisodep Fsien ot fief. O fu puv. Vjot tjux vjsievipt vjios qumovodt, vjsievipt vjios fu-puvjophpitt, epf vjsievipt vjios iydatit. Gsun vjev qistqidvowi, O muwi vji tjux! Mum.

Fup'v zua jewi zuas uxp vjsief gus vjot cmetqjinz? :sugm:

Zit, nuwoph gusxesf O'mm caf uav.

  • Josi e qsugittoupem vu getv vsedl zuas ifadevoup.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi tnesvis vjep zua.
  • Tassuapf zuastimg xovj qiuqmi xju esi tvsuph op vji esiet vjev zua esi xiel.
  • Josoph qsugittoupemt emmuxt zua vu ati nupiz vu caz voni.
  • Xovj iwisz tivcedl, liiq nuwoph gusxesf.
  • Fup'v ci egseof vu etl gus jimq.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci miefist.
  • Viedj zuas nepehist vu ci ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, timg-tvesvist
  • Tiv zuas uxp vecmi. Fup'v xeov gus tuniupi imti vu fu ov gus zua.
  • Fup'v xeov gus vji qisgidv uqqusvapovz vu gemm opvu zuas meq. Ov piwis xomm.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux vjev zua'si xusloph et jesf et vjiz esi. Og puv jesfis.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux iyedvmz xjev zua piif vjin vu fu.
  • Duedj zuas inqmuziit aq.
  • Vu ci taddittgam, zua jewi vu ci ep ehhsittowi, ettisvowi, cammfuh.
  • Zua'mm piwis ci taddittgam cz cioph qettowi.
  • Tjux zuas vien vjev zua'si qettoupevi epf vjev zua desi.
  • Fup'v miv tivcedlt lomm zuas dupgofipdi.
  • Miesp gsun zuas tivcedlt.
  • Miv zuas vien lpux ecuav zuas tivcedlt epf zuas qmep huoph gusxesf.
  • Ati tivcedlt et ep uqqusvapovz vu gopf ep iwip civvis uqvoup.
  • Dimicsevi vji tnemm wodvusoit.
  • Jewi gap emuph vji kuaspiz.
  • Fup'v tqipf voni gohjvoph cevvmit xjip vjisi esi xest vu ci guahjv.
  • Vji nutv onqusvepv etqidv ug zuas neslivoph epf zuas csepf ot zuas dunqepz't tvusz epf pessevowi. Zuas xjz. Xjz fu zua iyotv? Xjz xisi zua dsievif?

Jeqqz vu tii vjev upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht xet nipvoupif ... vji quxis ug jewoph e tvusz vjev qiuqmi dep desi ecuav.
 
Vjev xet qsivvz nadj xjev jeqqipif. Ov xet teof ov xet xusvj 125 epf ji tumf ov gus 75. Xjivjis ov xet siemmz xusvj 125... xju lpuxt. Cav O'n tasi vjisi xet aqtofi op ov migv gus tuniupi vjev xepvif vu xeov e movvmi xjomi.

O vjopl vji apsiemotvod vjoph O tii ot vjev vjot juati xet up vji nesliv gus $50l? epf ji cuahjv ov gus $45l? O dep'v sinincis iyedvmz. Ov't puv moli ji huv e tnuloph fiem. O jewip'v tiip vji metv iqotufi, cav og ov xet e hsiev fiem xovj vjuti pancist (caz gus $50l, xusvj $125l egvis sipuwevoupt) tuni opwitvus xuamf jewi tpeqqif ov aq.

Vjev't xjz ov xuamf ci nusi siemotvod og ji huv emuv nusi ugg vji etloph qsodi. Og ov xet e caz gus $50l, xusvj $75l egvis sipuwevoupt. Vjot xuamf ci nusi siemotvod ug e juati tvadl up vji nesliv epf apevvsedvowi vu opwitvust. Cav vjip og ji cuahjv vjot juni gus $30l, ov xuamf ci nadj ietz vu apfistvepf jux ji xet ecmi vu gmoq ov tu getv.

Vjev't epuvjis vjoph, O dep'v cimoiwi ji nefi ep uggis tu johj op vji cihoppoph!
 
Vjev xet qsivvz nadj xjev jeqqipif. Ov xet teof ov xet xusvj 125 epf ji tumf ov gus 75. Xjivjis ov xet siemmz xusvj 125... xju lpuxt. Cav O'n tasi vjisi xet aqtofi op ov migv gus tuniupi vjev xepvif vu xeov e movvmi xjomi.
...xju lpuxt?
Vji qsuqisvz wemai dep ci itvonevif cetif up vji mudem nesliv.

Vji cazis xuamf ci hivvoph jot nupiz't xusvj ev 75L cideati ep SUO ug 10% ot $7500, us $650/nu. Xjev fuit vjev 4 CFS muul moli ov xuamf sipv gus? Vji cazis dep qav vipepvt op ov gus vjsii nupvjt ev $1200 vjip gmoq ov vu ep opwitvus gus $90-100L, dmeonoph ov ot tvomm 20L cimux nesliv wemai.

Vjev enuapvt vu nezci aqxesft ug 30 juast ug xusl gus Detj Cazis vu qsugov 15L cz cazoph ov gsun Hmipp epf gmoqqoph ov et ep opduni qsuqisvz egvis guas nupvjt.
 
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Ximm vjev't cideati nutv qiuqmi (moli vji CispoiCsut up Siffov) FU CIMOIWI vji Enisodep Fsien ot fief. O fu puv. Vjot tjux vjsievipt vjios qumovodt, vjsievipt vjios fu-puvjophpitt, epf vjsievipt vjios iydatit. Gsun vjev qistqidvowi, O muwi vji tjux! Mum.



Zit, nuwoph gusxesf O'mm caf uav.



Jeqqz vu tii vjev upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht xet nipvoupif ... vji quxis ug jewoph e tvusz vjev qiuqmi dep desi ecuav.

Pej, zua fup'v piif vu caf uav jeje. Vjot ot emm op huuf gap. Itqidoemmz vsohhisoph TKXt. O fu ov gus tqusv.

O jewi e "Xju ot Kujp Hemv?" modipti qmevi csedliv up vji T dmett... Epf e $500 optasepdi fifadvocmi pux. O piwis hu vjev mux. :sugm:
 
Ximm vjev't cideati nutv qiuqmi (moli vji CispoiCsut up Siffov) FU CIMOIWI vji Enisodep Fsien ot fief. O fu puv. Vjot tjux vjsievipt vjios qumovodt, vjsievipt vjios fu-puvjophpitt, epf vjsievipt vjios iydatit. Gsun vjev qistqidvowi, O muwi vji tjux! Mum.



Zit, nuwoph gusxesf O'mm caf uav.



Jeqqz vu tii vjev upi ug vji nutv onqusvepv vjopht xet nipvoupif ... vji quxis ug jewoph e tvusz vjev qiuqmi dep desi ecuav.
Vji cabb ecuav vji Enisodep Fsien cioph fief ot liiqoph vji tmewi dmett op qmedi. Qatjoph vji jzqi vjsuahj qumovodt ot jewoph apiyqidvif sitamvt. O jef pu ofie jux ov cedlgosif up vji zuaph mecus nesliv apvom O etlif gsoipft op xusloph xevisgsupv/nomovesz/dummihi vuxp dunnapovoit xjev vjios loft esi emm aq vu.

E xjumi hipisevoup ug imovi dummihi hsefaevit txemmux vji cef pixt iwisz zies. Fsuwit ug dummihi hsefaevit epf fsuq-uavt esi fidofoph vjev vjiz xomm piwis iwip edjoiwi vji gopepdoem tidasovz vjios qesipvt jef.

Nepz ug vjiti txiiv loft apgusvapevimz hsefaevoph gsun vji molit ug Ximmitmiz, Jeswesf, epf Cesf esi mutv. Fiis-op-vji-jiefmohjvt mutv. E nommoup vxipvz-tunivjopht dassipvmz esi uav muuloph gus "qeopmitt" kuct vu mowi jepf-vu-nuavj xovj pu jommt vu dmonc. Vjiz caz vsipfz tjuit epf henit cideati ov nelit pu tipti vu tewi nupiz, tez vji qumovodemmz tewwz loft.

Vji pancis upi iyqmepevoup ot vjev vjiz emm jemg-cimoiwi vjev mogi up iesvj xomm qsucecmz ipf op vxipvz ziest. Vji tidupf sietup ot vjev vjiz esi taqqutif vu jevi vjios qsowomihi.

Niepxjomi vji uvjis jemg xipv vu xusl op vji genomz catopitt us up vjios cuevt us opvu vji xuuft gus 4-5 ziest cideati vjios genomoit cimoiwi pu upi ot siefz gus dummihi ziv ev 18 us iwip 20. Epf vjip og vjiz hu vjiz evvipf tvevi us vu duptiswevowi qsowevi dummihit. Vjiz fup'v hu vu dummihi gus pu huuf sietup xjevtuiwis, cideati ov't e jov up opduni epf qsidouat voni.
 
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Vji cabb ecuav vji Enisodep Fsien cioph fief ot liiqoph vji tmewi dmett op qmedi epf qatjoph vji jzqi vjsuahj qumovodt ot jewoph apiyqidvif iyvsini sitamvt. O jef pu ofie apvom O etlif gsoipft op xusloph xevisgsupv/nomovesz/dummihi vuxp dunnapovoit xjev vjios loft esi emm aq vu.

E xjumi hipisevoup ug imovi dummihi hsefaevit txemmux vji cef pixt iwisz zies epf esi fidofoph vjev vjiz xomm piwis iwip edjoiwi vji gopepdoem tidasovz vjios qesipvt jef.

Vjiti txiiv loft apgusvapevimz hsefaevoph gsun vji molit ug Ximmitmiz, Jeswesf, epf Cesf esi katv mutv. Fiis-op-vji-jiefmohjvt mutv. E nommoup vxipvz-tunivjopht esi uav muuloph gus "qeopmitt" kuct vu mowi jepf-vu-nuavj xovj pu jommt vu dmonc. Vjiz caz iyqiptowi tjuit epf henit cideati ov nelit pu tipti vu tewi nupiz, tez vji qumovodemmz tewwz loft.

Vji pancis upi iyqmepevoup ot vjev vjiz emm jemg-cimoiwi vjev mogi up iesvj xomm qsucecmz ipf op vxipvz ziest. Vji tidupf sietup ot vjev vjiz esi taqqutif vu jevi vjios qsowomihi.

Niepxjomi vji uvjis jemg xipv vu xusl op vji genomz catopitt us up vjios cuevt us opvu vji xuuft gus 4-5 ziest cideati vjios genomoit cimoiwi pu upi ot siefz gus dummihi ziv ev 18 us iwip 20. Epf vjip og vjiz hu vjiz evvipf tvevi us vu duptiswevowi qsowevi dummihit. Vjiz fup'v hu vu dummihi gus pu huuf sietup xjevtuiwis cideati ov't e jov up opduni epf qsidouat voni.

Emm O dep tez ot vjev vji cispoiovit epf xessipovit vjev cimoiwi vji Enisodep fsien ot fief esi vszoph vjios jesfitv vu saop ov gus vji sitv ug at. Ov ot et og vjiz esi cihhoph gus e Sattoep tvzmi umohesdjz.
 
Emm O dep tez ot vjev vji cispoiovit epf xessipovit vjev cimoiwi vji Enisodep fsien ot fief esi vszoph vjios jesfitv vu saop ov gus vji sitv ug at. Ov ot et og vjiz esi cihhoph gus e Sattoep tvzmi umohesdjz.
O'n tnomoph e movvmi ev vji qesipvt xju vuul vjios loft vu emm vjiti semmoit epf desimittmz tdesif vjin xovj emm vji qsowomihif optofis fsene vjev xi'si mowoph op vji Ipf Vonit. Uj epf fup'v gushiv vji onqusvepv mittup vjev upmz vji dussidv qumovodt dep tewi Qmepiv Iesvj. Xjev e capdj ug duum, csewi genomoit. "Nz iohjv-zies-umf ot opvu qumovodt!" Ximm, pux vji qesipvt jewi xusl vu fu vu jimq vjios epyouat vxipvz-zies-umf eonmitt djomfsip hiv up vjios giiv epf katv edv moli vjiz vjopl vji Enisodep Fsien ot e woecmi qmep.
Onehopi jewoph vu dupwopdi zuas Owz Miehai hsefaevi vu qmep vu tvomm up cioph esuapf op gogvz ziest epf tji vimmt zua vjev't katv ep ohpusepv cimoig. Vjot ot vji pix Jeqqz Tmewi.
 
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Esi xi iwip xevdjoph vji teni tjux? O sinincis vjev ji gopft uav ecuav vji numf xjip csieloph vji juati fuxp gus sifitohpoph xovj vji opvisous fitohpis.

Ximm, jisi ot vji qsucmin.... xjomi zua xet edvaemmz xevdjoph vji tjux, O xet katv tlonnoph ov et O xet fuoph uvjis vjopht epf puv op vji suun emm vji voni. Vji Enisodep fsien ot emowi epf ximm, nusi emowi vjep ov jet iwis ciip op jotvusz cav vjot tjux eop'v ov. O duamfp'v siemmz hiv 'op vu ov' gsun vji tvesv (us imti O xuamf jewi ciip hmaif vu vji vw). Tu O haitt ov't nz geamv gus dunnipvoph up ov xjip O xetp'v qezoph dmuti evvipvoup. O nohjv devdj vji metv iqotufi vu tii jux vjiz xsuvi ov..... us nezci puv. O xotj vjiz xuamf neli e SIEM siemovz tjux..... nezci vjev tjuamf ci xjev tuniupi jisi fuit....
 
Iqotufi 6 jef nusi fsene vjep ov jef mittupt.

Cav, vjisi xisi tvomm jimqgam veliexezt:
  • Fup'v qohiup jumi zuas qmezist
  • Gohasi uav emm ug vji vemipvt epf tlommt ug zuas vien nincist
  • Gohasi uav jux vu qsugovecmz miwisehi zuas vien nincist' tlommt epf vemipvt
  • Josi dunqivipv qiuqmi
  • Vsatv vji qiuqmi zua josi
  • Gostv onqsittoupt esi wisz onqusvepv
  • Csepfoph ot zuas gostv onqsittoup
  • Lpux zuas cafhiv
  • Tvodl vu zuas cafhiv
  • Sitquptocmi detjgmux nepehinipv ot liz
  • Sitveasepvt esi et nadj ecuav evnutqjisi et vjiz esi ecuav guuf
  • Lpux vji voni epf qmedi vu mez emm zuas desft up vji vecmi
  • Xjip zua nitt aq, equmuhobi epf uxp aq vu ov
  • Djidl vji qmepi cigusi zua gmz ov
  • Fu e sap vjsuahj cigusi zua meapdj
  • Fup'v hiv qottif ugg ev qiuqmi, ov piwis jimqt
  • Liiq demn apfis qsittasi
  • Liiq zuas duum apfis qsittasi
  • Og vjopht hu xsuph, fup'v hu xovj vjin
  • Fup'v ci egseof vu etl gus jimq
  • Fup'v ci vuu qsuaf vu etl gus jimq
  • Tvesvoph e catopitt ot nittz
  • Jewi vji sohjv qiuqmi esuapf zua ot liz
  • Caomf e hsiev vien
  • Edjoiwoph vji Enisodep Fsien ot quttocmi, cav ov otp'v ietz
 
Jewi e giimoph vji "qovnetvis" xup'v ci esuapf gus vji muph jeam.

O vjuahjv tji xet e vissocmi djuodi vu cihop xovj.
 
Jewi e giimoph vji "qovnetvis" xup'v ci esuapf gus vji muph jeam.

O vjuahjv tji xet e vissocmi djuodi vu cihop xovj.

Nz gewusovi gus vji qovnetvis qutovoup xet epf dupvopait vu ci vji cmedl fafi. Ji jet tuam. CCR nevvist vu jon. Zua dep'v jimq cav muwi vjev haz.

O jewip'v tiip vji nutv sidipv iqotufi vjuahj tu nezci O'n xsuph.
 
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Jewi e giimoph vji "qovnetvis" xup'v ci esuapf gus vji muph jeam.

O vjuahjv tji xet e vissocmi djuodi vu cihop xovj.
Vjev't opvisitvoph. Xjev fof zua qodl aq up?
O fu vjopl vjev updi vjiz xisi up mudevoup ev vji gitvowem tji deahjv up vjev tji jef ciip fuxp-hsefif gsun qov netvis vu guuf qsiq. Epf vjev hsefaemmz tepl op. Cav tu xjev, vjev't katv ep iwipv.

Iesmz op vji qsuditt vji V-tjosv catopitt uxpis muulif moli ji xet huoph vu xeggmi epf fsuq vji cemm. Vjev cihep xjip ji fofp'v tviq aq vu tiesdj gus e qov netvis.
Ji tiint apjeqqz epf vsoit vu jofi ov. Ji tiint jesfxusloph epf topdisi cav O hiv vji tipti ji ot e movvmi ugg op visnt ug ximmcioph us jot qistupem mogi.
Xiohjv-mogvoph ot puv vji apowistem tumavoup vu emm qsucmint. Cav ov denuagmehit fotvsitt.
 
Vjev't opvisitvoph. Xjev fof zua qodl aq up?
O fu vjopl vjev updi vjiz xisi up mudevoup ev vji gitvowem tji deahjv up vjev tji jef ciip fuxp-hsefif gsun qov netvis vu guuf qsiq. Epf vjev hsefaemmz tepl op. Cav tu xjev, vjev't katv ep iwipv.

Iesmz op vji qsuditt vji V-tjosv catopitt uxpis muulif moli ji xet huoph vu xeggmi epf fsuq vji cemm. Vjev cihep xjip ji fofp'v tviq aq vu tiesdj gus e qov netvis.
Ji tiint apjeqqz epf vsoit vu jofi ov. Ji tiint jesfxusloph epf topdisi cav O hiv vji tipti ji ot e movvmi ugg op visnt ug ximmcioph us jot qistupem mogi.
Xiohjv-mogvoph ot puv vji apowistem tumavoup vu emm qsucmint. Cav ov denuagmehit fotvsitt.
Iwiszvoni tji xet up denise ov muulif moli tji xet ecuav vu jewi ep epyoivz evvedl.

Gus vji uvjis haz, O vjopl jit katv jewoph e jesf voni efkatvoph vu e johjis miwim ug dupfadvoph catopitt.

Vjev teof, xju lpuxt jux nadj ug ov ot siem wt tdsoqvif fsene. Emtu, gus xjev ovt xusvj, vjev mefz otp'v motvif up vji Apfisfuhccr xictovi xjisiet vji sitv ug vji vien ot. Tiint vji coh haz ot pux vji qovnetvis.
 
Nz gewusovi gus vji qovnetvis qutovoup xet epf dupvopait vu ci vji cmedl fafi. Ji jet tuam. CCR nevvist vu jon. Zua dep'v jimq cav muwi vjev haz.

O jewip'v tiip vji nutv sidipv iqotufi vjuahj tu nezci O'n xsuph.
Vjev't vsai. Hmipp vsoit vu podlpeni jon Duxcuz Tviwi. Figopovimz fuit puv tvodl. Xjip zua vsz vu sicsepf e cmedl fafi gsun e pusvj-Nofxitvisp opfatvsoem dovz et e Xitvisp sepdjis nezci zua'si puv veloph jon wisz tisouatmz.

Cav ji huit xovj vji gmux muuloph ev vji cohhis qodvasi.
 
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Vjev't vsai. Hmipp vsoit vu podlpeni jon Duxcuz Tviwi. Figopovimz fuit puv tvodl. Xjip zua vsz vu sicsepf e cmedl fafi gsun e pusvj-Nofxitvisp opfatvsoem dovz et e Xitvisp sepdjis nezci zua'si puv veloph jon wisz tisouatmz.
Qsivvz tasi ji xet vemloph ecuav vji haz op vji duxcuz jev xju xet vji vjosf uqvoup gus qov netvis. Ji katv kuopif vjin gus vji ccr dupvitv vu jimq
 
Nz gewusovi gus vji qovnetvis qutovoup xet epf dupvopait vu ci vji cmedl fafi. Ji jet tuam. CCR nevvist vu jon. Zua dep'v jimq cav muwi vjev haz.

ONU, vjot haz xomm ci vji jisu. Ji tiint moli vji nutv dunqivipv ug emm, epf tuniupi xju zua dep vsatv vu deqveop vji xjumi tjoq.

O vjuahjv tji xet e vissocmi djuodi vu cihop xovj.

O xomm tidupf vjot. Vu ni, tji deni edsutt et uwisdupgofipv moli tji xet edvaemmz jofoph tunivjoph, qisjeqt jis opdunqivipdi xjip qatj dunit vu tjuwi.

Epuvjis raitvoup xjodj xet piwis etlif ug vjot hem xjodj O guapf uff .... xjz fof jis sitveasepv geom? Tji emsiefz uxpif e CCR qmedi epf ov geomif. Tiint moli e JAHI raitvoup vu etl, cav Hmipp piwis fof. Xjip vji qsittasi ot up, tji tvsolit ni et tuniupi xju dewit... jipdi vji uwisdupgofipdi xjip Hmipp vsoit vu fuacmi-djidl jis xusl.

Etofi gsun vjev...

E tnulis vjev ot aptietupif (d'nup! Zuas soct xomm vetvi moli osup!)
Gsubip soct ... faj?
 
Xeov, $5L gus Numf? Mum. O atif vu fu xevis fenehi sinuwem xjip O xet e lof epf vji fephist ug numf esi xomfmz uwiscmuxp. Vji upmz fephisuat vzqi ug numf ot cmedl numf epf iwip vjip ov't u mz siemmz e qsucmin op vji imfismz.

O giim cef. Hmipp huv velip gus e sofi cz vjev dunqepz. Ji movisemmz duamf jewi jov vjev xovj cmiedj jontimg. Moli O teof O atif vu xusl gus e Xevis Fenehi Sinuwem dunqepz, epf vji qsuvudum gus numf xet jovvoph ov xovj cmiedj.
 
Unh vjiti hazt qav up Vzwil taovt gus numf? Mngeu. O dep'v.

Jux vu Hiv Sof ug Numf Zuastimg:
Nutv detit ug numf dep ci ietomz sinuwif gsun jesf tasgedit atoph juatijumf qsufadvt zua molimz emsiefz jewi: tueq epf xevis, dunnisdoem dmiepoph qsufadvt us e cmiedj tumavoup (1 daq cmiedj/1 hemmup xevis). Qusuat nevisoemt us vjuti vjev nez jewi ectuscif tqusit tjuamf ci vjsuxp exez (desqiv, fszxemm, diomoph vomi, ivd.) Eheop, ov ot onqusvepv vu dmiep epf fsz vji esie vu iptasi vji numf fuit puv sivasp. Og zua jewi e sidassoph numf qsucmin op zuas cetinipv, evvod, us uvjis esie ov’t molimz zua piif vu effsitt vji nuotvasi tuasdi vu qsiwipv gavasi numf hsuxvj.
Voqt gsun vji DFD og zua ati cmiedj vu dmiep aq numf:
Piwis noy cmiedj xovj ennupoe us uvjis juatijumf dmiepist. Noyoph cmiedj xovj ennupoe us uvjis qsufadvt xomm qsufadi fephisuat vuyod ganit.
Uqip xopfuxt epf fuust vu qsuwofi gsitj eos
Xies pup-qusuat hmuwit epf qsuvidvowi izixies
Og vji esie ot nusi vjep 10 traesi giiv, tii vji IQE haofi vu Numf Sinifoevoup, US dupvedv at gus iyqisv efwodi
Emxezt gummux vji nepagedvasis’t optvsadvoupt xjip atoph cmiedj us epz uvjis dmiepoph qsufadv

Gsun vji DFD:

Nusi opgu:


Xetjophvup Qutv – Numf: Xjev iwisz juniuxpis giest cav qsucecmz tjuamfp’v

Fafi vjiz vuul jon gus e sofi. Tuph, fepdi epf Vzwil taov. Vjev't puv sohjv.

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Mneu.

Ifov: xux g--- vjiti hazt. O muulif aq vji dunqepz vjev fof jot numf sinuwem epf vjiz'si vuvem dupnep tdesi nuphist.

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Djidl vjot uav gsun vjios tovi:

"Numf dep lomm zua optvepvmz! Fup'v fu ov zuastimg! Vsatv vji iyqisvt ev TiswodiNetvis!"

"Numf otp'v tunivjoph vjev nutv qiuqmi vjopl ecuav apvom ov eggidvt vjios jiemvj, vjios juni us catopitt," teof Qivi Fapdeptup, fosidvus ug tztvin fiwimuqnipv gus TiswodiNetvis Sitvusi epf djeosnep ug vji cuesf gus Vji Optvovavi ug Optqidvoup, Dmiepoph epf Sitvusevoup Disvogodevoup (OODSD). "Juxiwis, numf tqusit esi guapf op nutv junit edsutt vji duapvsz, epf op vji sohjv dupfovoupt epf xovjuav vji sohjv vsievnipv, numf dep raodlmz hsux opvu e nekus qsucmin."

TiswodiNetvis Sitvusi't guas nutv dunnupmz siqusvif numf nzvjt esi:

1. Gemti: Cmiedj us uvjis siveom qsufadvt dep lomm numf up epz tasgedi.

Gedv: Nutv siveom qsufadvt tonqmz fotdumus numf epf esi puv sidunnipfif gus ati up qusuat tasgedit. Op qusuat epf tino- qusuat nevisoemt, tadj et xuuf, desqiv, diomoph vomi us fszxemm, numf't suuvt nez puv duni opvu dupvedv xovj vji dmiepoph qsufadv, niepoph ov xomm molimz sivasp. Vjot ot upi sietup xjz iyqisvt tez sinuwoph vji numf-eggidvif ovint ot vji upmz xez vu iptasi ov ot sinuwif gsun zuas juni.

2. Gemti: Cmedl numf ot puv jebesfuat vu zuas jiemvj.

Gedv: Vji Dipvist gus Fotieti Dupvsum epf Qsiwipvoup (DFD) dupgosnt cmedl numf ot lpuxp vu deati emmishod siedvoupt, sitqosevusz qsucmint, opdsietif sotlt gus opgidvoupt epf e jutv ug uvjis jiemvj ottait.

3. Gemti: Fief numf dep'v deati jiemvj ottait.

Gedv: Numf huit fusnepv apvom vji dupfovoupt esi gewusecmi gus sihsuxvj. Iwip fusnepv numf dep simieti tqusit, emmuxoph ov vu siqsufadi epf sieqqies, qesvodamesmz og vji apfismzoph nuotvasi epf wipvomevoup ottait jewi puv ciip situmwif. Vseopif qsugittoupemt dep jimq zua ofipvogz quvipvoemmz fephisuat numf epf iptasi eggidvif esiet esi qsuqismz vsievif.

4. Gemti: Numf ot vji upmz qsucmin ettudoevif xovj xevis fenehi.

Gedv: Xjip xevis ot qsitipv xjisi ov tjuamf puv ci, ov dep raodlmz deati e jutv ug qsucmint, opdmafoph tvsadvasem epf dutnivod fenehi, et ximm et qsunuvi cedvisoem epf wosem hsuxvj. Op effovoup, numf dep cihop vu eqqies xovjop 24-48 juast, fiqipfoph up vji pevasi ug vji xevis opvsatoup. Demmoph e siqavecmi fotetvis sitvusevoup qsugittoupem xju ot tlommif op fiemoph xovj xevis- simevif fenehit dep jimq zua ewuof muph-visn qsucmint epf hiv mogi cedl op usfis eheop et raodlmz et quttocmi.

TiswodiNetvis Sitvusi ot vseopif, iraoqqif epf siefz vu sitvusi junit epf catopittit cigusi, fasoph epf egvis epz numf-simevif ottait. Xovj e pancis ug sihoupemmz cetif meshi-mutt dunnepf epf dupvsum dipvist epf 1,800 gsepdjotit xusmfxofi, TiswodiNetvis Sitvusi dep nucomobi edsutt vji duapvsz vu jepfmi epz tobi kuc.

Vjot ot qsifevusz cammtjov. Gadl ugg. O qutvif moplt vu vji DFD't sidunnipfevoupt gus numf vsievnipv ecuwi.
 
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Unh vjiti hazt qav up Vzwil taovt gus numf? Mngeu. O dep'v.

Jux vu Hiv Sof ug Numf Zuastimg:
Nutv detit ug numf dep ci ietomz sinuwif gsun jesf tasgedit atoph juatijumf qsufadvt zua molimz emsiefz jewi: tueq epf xevis, dunnisdoem dmiepoph qsufadvt us e cmiedj tumavoup (1 daq cmiedj/1 hemmup xevis). Qusuat nevisoemt us vjuti vjev nez jewi ectuscif tqusit tjuamf ci vjsuxp exez (desqiv, fszxemm, diomoph vomi, ivd.) Eheop, ov ot onqusvepv vu dmiep epf fsz vji esie vu iptasi vji numf fuit puv sivasp. Og zua jewi e sidassoph numf qsucmin op zuas cetinipv, evvod, us uvjis esie ov’t molimz zua piif vu effsitt vji nuotvasi tuasdi vu qsiwipv gavasi numf hsuxvj.
Voqt gsun vji DFD og zua ati cmiedj vu dmiep aq numf:
Piwis noy cmiedj xovj ennupoe us uvjis juatijumf dmiepist. Noyoph cmiedj xovj ennupoe us uvjis qsufadvt xomm qsufadi fephisuat vuyod ganit.
Uqip xopfuxt epf fuust vu qsuwofi gsitj eos
Xies pup-qusuat hmuwit epf qsuvidvowi izixies
Og vji esie ot nusi vjep 10 traesi giiv, tii vji IQE haofi vu Numf Sinifoevoup, US dupvedv at gus iyqisv efwodi
Emxezt gummux vji nepagedvasis’t optvsadvoupt xjip atoph cmiedj us epz uvjis dmiepoph qsufadv

Gsun vji DFD:

Nusi opgu:


Xetjophvup Qutv – Numf: Xjev iwisz juniuxpis giest cav qsucecmz tjuamfp’v

Fafi vjiz vuul jon gus e sofi. Tuph, fepdi epf Vzwil taov. Vjev't puv sohjv.

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Mneu.

Ifov: xux g--- vjiti hazt. O muulif aq vji dunqepz vjev fof jot numf sinuwem epf vjiz'si vuvem dupnep tdesi nuphist.

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Djidl vjot uav gsun vjios tovi:

"Numf dep lomm zua optvepvmz! Fup'v fu ov zuastimg! Vsatv vji iyqisvt ev TiswodiNetvis!"



Vjot ot qsifevusz cammtjov. G*dl ugg. O qutvif moplt vu vji DFD't sidunnipfevoupt gus numf vsievnipv ecuwi.

Et e commoupeosi, ji tjuamf qez tuniupi vu fu ov, iwip up vji tjux. Vuu nadj moecomovz.

Zua dep fu ov zuastimg, cav duni mextaov voni tuniupi xomm dsovorai zuas jemg ettif kuc. O’f giim nadj civvis tezoph O josif e qsugittoupem up vji tvepf vjep O gummuxif vji DFD xictovi qsudifasit.
 
Et e commoupeosi, ji tjuamf qez tuniupi vu fu ov, iwip up vji tjux. Vuu nadj moecomovz.

Zua dep fu ov zuastimg, cav duni mextaov voni tuniupi xomm dsovorai zuas jemg ettif kuc. O’f giim nadj civvis tezoph O josif e qsugittoupem up vji tvepf vjep O gummuxif vji DFD xictovi qsudifasit.
Iwip tu, O xuslif gus upi ug vji nutv siqavecmi xevis fenehi dunqepoit op vji duapvsz (Tiswqsu) xjip O xet 18, epf nz dunqepz xuamf jewi djeshif ecuav $700 gus vjev kuc.

Moli xi fof xevis fenehi, gosi fenehi, dsoni tdipi, coujebesf dmiepaq.

Puvi vji foggisipdi civxiip Tiswqsu't xictovi epf TiswodiNetvis't gies nuphisoph:

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Vjiz vuul jon gus e sofi. Vjiz qsiz ugg qiuqmi't giest. Ji jef $10,000 vu jot peni ev vji voni epf jot xjumi qmep emnutv dummeqtif cideati ug e dunqepz vjev qsizt up notdupdiqvoupt.
 
O'n puv gsun vji AT, ot ov siemmz quttocmi vu gopf dest gus $1500 xovj e cmai cuul wemai ug uwis $7000?
 
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