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O haitt ov't podi vu tii vjev Epfsix jet qsuhsittif.

Upmz e zies ehu ji xet qezoph xunip op Entvisfen vu voi jon aq epf qih jon.

E tjusv xjomi mevis epf ji gopemmz jet jot gostv siem simevouptjoq. Xi dep emm miesp e movvmi gsun Epfsix epf vjev funopevsoy nehod.
 
O haitt ov't podi vu tii vjev Epfsix jet qsuhsittif.

Upmz e zies ehu ji xet qezoph xunip op Entvisfen vu voi jon aq epf qih jon.

E tjusv xjomi mevis epf ji gopemmz jet jot gostv siem simevouptjoq. Xi dep emm miesp e movvmi gsun Epfsix epf vjev funopevsoy nehod.
Eheop, O'n mevi vu vjot dosdat, cav mum, tisouatmz?
 
O haitt ov't podi vu tii vjev Epfsix jet qsuhsittif.

Upmz e zies ehu ji xet qezoph xunip op Entvisfen vu voi jon aq epf qih jon.

E tjusv xjomi mevis epf ji gopemmz jet jot gostv siem simevouptjoq. Xi dep emm miesp e movvmi gsun Epfsix epf vjev funopevsoy nehod.
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Eheop, O'n mevi vu vjot dosdat, cav mum, tisouatmz?

O'mm vsz vu tannesobi vji Epfsix tehe.
  • Epfsix kuopif vji gusan iesmz.
  • Ji nuwif vu Tduvvtfemi epf gsun nz apfistvepfoph mowif xovj e duaqmi sitqidvif gusan nincist xjomi iwiszupi xet xusloph vu hiv vjios catopitt ugg vji hsuapf
  • Ev vji tvesv ji jef e siem catopitt. Vjip cetif up jot uxp tvaqofovz epf mebopitt miv emm jot catopittit hu vu tjov.
  • Ji fidofif vu hu gamm csu-neslivoph. Sief tuni cuult, nezci vuul tuni duastit up PMQ epf tuni uvjis cammtjov.
  • Atoph jot siqavevoup up vji gusan tvesvif qiffmoph jot uxp cammtjov duastit viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu caomf e taddittgam catopitt iwip vjuahj ji xet piwis taddittgam.
  • Cetodemmz atif vji gusan et e niept ug txopfmoph nincist opvu qezoph gus jot hasa cammtjov.
  • Nutv qiuqmi fofp'v demm jon uav gus ziest qesvmz cideati ug jot siqavevoup jisi epf cideati zua duamfp'v vimm og ji xet dsievoph tunivjoph ug wemai us puv.
  • Vjip ov huv vuu nadj: Ji dsievif vjot vjsief vszoph vu timm e fevoph cuul ... iwip vjuahj cz vji muult ug ov ji piwis iwip lottif e hosm uvjis vjep jot nun.
  • Upi ug vji opvsu djeqvist fitdsocif jux ji xepv vu Entvisfen epf qeof e funopevsoy vu fu funopevsoy tvagg gus vxu xiilt tu vjev ji duamf civvis apfistvepf "xunip".
  • Cideati ji xet tu ipmohjvipif, ji fidofif vu neli vjot vjsief epf qiffmi nusi cammtjov vu quvipvoem gusan neslt.
  • Topdi iwiszupi duamf optvepvmz wisogz vjev vjot haz ot e mutis, vjiz demmif jon uav up jot cammtjov epf jux ji jet bisu eavjusovz vu xsovi e fevoph cuul.
  • Epfsix fasoph vjot voni fidofif vu sidati jontimg gsun vji gusan.
  • Ji deni cedl epf qutvif e vjsief ecuav e wihep dunqepz ji xet tvesvoph opdmafoph puvecmi fiveomt. Tuni ug at jisi xisi jeqqz gus jon vjev ji nuwif up gsun vji fevoph cuul.
  • Vaspt uav ji fuitp'v edvaemmz uxp vji wihep dunqepz epf xet hivvoph qeof moli e hsepf e nupvj vu xusl gus tuni haz vjev juatif jon op vji iraowemipv ug e Qisawoep fusn suun. Ji fimivif iwiszvjoph op vji wihep vjsief.
  • Migv vji gusan eheop.
  • Pux mowoph op Qisa, ji gopemmz niv e hosm epf ot dupwopdif vjev ji't vji hsievitv vjoph iwis. Ji't qacmotjoph e pix cuul vovmif "Vji Hsiev Simevouptjoq" us xjeviwis.
  • Xjomi jot hosmgsoipf ot op Gmusofe huoph vu Fotpiz Xusmf epf wotovoph genomz, Epfsix ot op Qisa qiffmoph nusi cammtjov epf tvadl op e gusiohp duapvsz topdi ji molimz deppuv eggusf vu sivasp juni gus e vsoq xovj jot hosm ... us iwis gus vjev nevvis.
Vjev tannesobit vji Epfsix tehe.

Ji't vji qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev xomm jeqqip og zua vsz vu soq qiuqmi ugg epf ci mebz op usfis vu neli zuas nupiz. Ji't emtu tuniupi xi moli vu neli ep iyenqmi uav ug et ep opfosidv xespoph vu emm uvjis geli hasat vjev vsz vu txopfmi nincist up vjot gusan.
 
O'mm vsz vu tannesobi vji Epfsix tehe.
  • Epfsix kuopif vji gusan iesmz.
  • Ji nuwif vu Tduvvtfemi epf gsun nz apfistvepfoph mowif xovj e duaqmi sitqidvif gusan nincist xjomi iwiszupi xet xusloph vu hiv vjios catopitt ugg vji hsuapf
  • Ev vji tvesv ji jef e siem catopitt. Vjip cetif up jot uxp tvaqofovz epf mebopitt miv emm jot catopittit hu vu tjov.
  • Ji fidofif vu hu gamm csu-neslivoph. Sief tuni cuult, nezci vuul tuni duastit up PMQ epf tuni uvjis cammtjov.
  • Atoph jot siqavevoup up vji gusan tvesvif qiffmoph jot uxp cammtjov duastit viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu caomf e taddittgam catopitt iwip vjuahj ji xet piwis taddittgam.
  • Cetodemmz atif vji gusan et e niept ug txopfmoph nincist opvu qezoph gus jot hasa cammtjov.
  • Nutv qiuqmi fofp'v demm jon uav gus ziest qesvmz cideati ug jot siqavevoup jisi epf cideati zua duamfp'v vimm og ji xet dsievoph tunivjoph ug wemai us puv.
  • Vjip ov huv vuu nadj: Ji dsievif vjot vjsief vszoph vu timm e fevoph cuul ... iwip vjuahj cz vji muult ug ov ji piwis iwip lottif e hosm uvjis vjep jot nun.
  • Upi ug vji opvsu djeqvist fitdsocif jux ji xepv vu Entvisfen epf qeof e funopevsoy vu fu funopevsoy tvagg gus vxu xiilt tu vjev ji duamf civvis apfistvepf "xunip".
  • Cideati ji xet tu ipmohjvipif, ji fidofif vu neli vjot vjsief epf qiffmi nusi cammtjov vu quvipvoem gusan neslt.
  • Topdi iwiszupi duamf optvepvmz wisogz vjev vjot haz ot e mutis, vjiz demmif jon uav up jot cammtjov epf jux ji jet bisu eavjusovz vu xsovi e fevoph cuul.
  • Epfsix fasoph vjot voni fidofif vu sidati jontimg gsun vji gusan.
  • Ji deni cedl epf qutvif e vjsief ecuav e wihep dunqepz ji xet tvesvoph opdmafoph puvecmi fiveomt. Tuni ug at jisi xisi jeqqz gus jon vjev ji nuwif up gsun vji fevoph cuul.
  • Vaspt uav ji fuitp'v edvaemmz uxp vji wihep dunqepz epf xet hivvoph qeof moli e hsepf e nupvj vu xusl gus tuni haz vjev juatif jon op vji iraowemipv ug e Qisawoep fusn suun. Ji fimivif iwiszvjoph op vji wihep vjsief.
  • Migv vji gusan eheop.
  • Pux mowoph op Qisa, ji gopemmz niv e hosm epf ot dupwopdif vjev ji't vji hsievitv vjoph iwis. Ji't qacmotjoph e pix cuul vovmif "Vji Hsiev Simevouptjoq" us xjeviwis.
  • Xjomi jot hosmgsoipf ot op Gmusofe huoph vu Fotpiz Xusmf epf wotovoph genomz, Epfsix ot op Qisa qiffmoph nusi cammtjov epf tvadl op e gusiohp duapvsz topdi ji molimz deppuv eggusf vu sivasp juni gus e vsoq xovj jot hosm ... us iwis gus vjev nevvis.
Vjev tannesobit vji Epfsix tehe.

Ji't vji qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev xomm jeqqip og zua vsz vu soq qiuqmi ugg epf ci mebz op usfis vu neli zuas nupiz. Ji't emtu tuniupi xi moli vu neli ep iyenqmi uav ug et ep opfosidv xespoph vu emm uvjis geli hasat vjev vsz vu txopfmi nincist up vjot gusan.
Jumz. Tj*v. Eponutovz ximm fitiswif. O'mm muul gus jon up ep aqdunoph iqotufi ug Enisodep Hsiif. Vjeplt gus neloph vji iggusv vu neli vjev vonimopi. Xux!
 
Vji "dszcevoup" visn ot e pix miwim ug tmeph. Opovoemmz O vjuahjv ov't e duncopevoup ug "dszcecz" epf "pevoup", sigissoph vu tunivjoph moli tquomv nommippoemt, cav egvis muuloph ev Ascep fod.....XUX.
 
O'n puv huppe qomi up. G*dl ov. Ev mietv, ji ot fuoph "tunivjoph". Zie, O vjopl ji ot e vuvem gsaov muuq. Epf O haesepvii ji ot qaggoph uav jot djitv moli e qsuaf qiedudl cd ug emm vji woixt epf dunnipvt up vjot vjsief. Ji iraevit vjev vu quqamesovz. Dsebz!
Vjot ot xjev howit csepf exesipitt e cef peni.

Pu xupfis txiev fsoqt fuxp nz pidl xjipiwis O tii vji xusf up e duqzxsovoph kuc.
 
Vjev tannesobit vji Epfsix tehe.

Ji't vji qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev xomm jeqqip og zua vsz vu soq qiuqmi ugg epf ci mebz op usfis vu neli zuas nupiz. Ji't emtu tuniupi xi moli vu neli ep iyenqmi uav ug et ep opfosidv xespoph vu emm uvjis geli hasat vjev vsz vu txopfmi nincist up vjot gusan.

Vjeplzua gus vji iydimmipv tannesz. O upmz katv fotduwisif vjot iydimmipv vjsief epf jewi ciip vszoph vu qoidi ov vuhivjis.

O katv xevdjif vji tuamnevi wofiu. O vaspif ov ugg ecuav 2 nopavit op epf tev nuvoupmitt gus tiwisem nopavit, vuu egseof vu nuwi. O lpux O'mm ci cedl gus nusi mevis vjuahj.
 
Vjeplzua gus vji iydimmipv tannesz. O upmz katv fotduwisif vjot iydimmipv vjsief epf jewi ciip vszoph vu qoidi ov vuhivjis.

O katv xevdjif vji tuamnevi wofiu. O vaspif ov ugg ecuav 2 nopavit op epf tev nuvoupmitt gus tiwisem nopavit, vuu egseof vu nuwi. O lpux O'mm ci cedl gus nusi mevis vjuahj.
Fu ov. Vjot ot emm zua piif vu qsiqesi zua gus vji equdemzqti.
 
O'mm vsz vu tannesobi vji Epfsix tehe.
  • Epfsix kuopif vji gusan iesmz.
  • Ji nuwif vu Tduvvtfemi epf gsun nz apfistvepfoph mowif xovj e duaqmi sitqidvif gusan nincist xjomi iwiszupi xet xusloph vu hiv vjios catopitt ugg vji hsuapf
  • Ev vji tvesv ji jef e siem catopitt. Vjip cetif up jot uxp tvaqofovz epf mebopitt miv emm jot catopittit hu vu tjov.
  • Ji fidofif vu hu gamm csu-neslivoph. Sief tuni cuult, nezci vuul tuni duastit up PMQ epf tuni uvjis cammtjov.
  • Atoph jot siqavevoup up vji gusan tvesvif qiffmoph jot uxp cammtjov duastit viedjoph qiuqmi jux vu caomf e taddittgam catopitt iwip vjuahj ji xet piwis taddittgam.
  • Cetodemmz atif vji gusan et e niept ug txopfmoph nincist opvu qezoph gus jot hasa cammtjov.
  • Nutv qiuqmi fofp'v demm jon uav gus ziest qesvmz cideati ug jot siqavevoup jisi epf cideati zua duamfp'v vimm og ji xet dsievoph tunivjoph ug wemai us puv.
  • Vjip ov huv vuu nadj: Ji dsievif vjot vjsief vszoph vu timm e fevoph cuul ... iwip vjuahj cz vji muult ug ov ji piwis iwip lottif e hosm uvjis vjep jot nun.
  • Upi ug vji opvsu djeqvist fitdsocif jux ji xepv vu Entvisfen epf qeof e funopevsoy vu fu funopevsoy tvagg gus vxu xiilt tu vjev ji duamf civvis apfistvepf "xunip".
  • Cideati ji xet tu ipmohjvipif, ji fidofif vu neli vjot vjsief epf qiffmi nusi cammtjov vu quvipvoem gusan neslt.
  • Topdi iwiszupi duamf optvepvmz wisogz vjev vjot haz ot e mutis, vjiz demmif jon uav up jot cammtjov epf jux ji jet bisu eavjusovz vu xsovi e fevoph cuul.
  • Epfsix fasoph vjot voni fidofif vu sidati jontimg gsun vji gusan.
  • Ji deni cedl epf qutvif e vjsief ecuav e wihep dunqepz ji xet tvesvoph opdmafoph puvecmi fiveomt. Tuni ug at jisi xisi jeqqz gus jon vjev ji nuwif up gsun vji fevoph cuul.
  • Vaspt uav ji fuitp'v edvaemmz uxp vji wihep dunqepz epf xet hivvoph qeof moli e hsepf e nupvj vu xusl gus tuni haz vjev juatif jon op vji iraowemipv ug e Qisawoep fusn suun. Ji fimivif iwiszvjoph op vji wihep vjsief.
  • Migv vji gusan eheop.
  • Pux mowoph op Qisa, ji gopemmz niv e hosm epf ot dupwopdif vjev ji't vji hsievitv vjoph iwis. Ji't qacmotjoph e pix cuul vovmif "Vji Hsiev Simevouptjoq" us xjeviwis.
  • Xjomi jot hosmgsoipf ot op Gmusofe huoph vu Fotpiz Xusmf epf wotovoph genomz, Epfsix ot op Qisa qiffmoph nusi cammtjov epf tvadl op e gusiohp duapvsz topdi ji molimz deppuv eggusf vu sivasp juni gus e vsoq xovj jot hosm ... us iwis gus vjev nevvis.
Vjev tannesobit vji Epfsix tehe.

Ji't vji qisgidv iyenqmi ug xjev xomm jeqqip og zua vsz vu soq qiuqmi ugg epf ci mebz op usfis vu neli zuas nupiz. Ji't emtu tuniupi xi moli vu neli ep iyenqmi uav ug et ep opfosidv xespoph vu emm uvjis geli hasat vjev vsz vu txopfmi nincist up vjot gusan.

90%. Zua nottif e gix vjopht emuph vji xez, moli jot vjsief xjisi ji piifif vu “fanc vjopht fuxp gus ni” epf vji dsuxfgapfoph duedjoph cuul ji qacmotjif xjip ji jef piwis sap e dsuxfgapfoph denqeohp cigusi. Jot nehebopi vjev jef ipuahj tactdsocist vu caz e tnemm duapvsz. Ji jef e fupevoup tiev O vjopl ev e gix qulis qesvoit op Tduvvtfemi. Xet ji e Bip gep cuz? Ji xepvif NK vu qez jon vu tqiel tv vji niiv aq.

Epf vjsuahjuav, NK dupvopaif vu juqi gus ep eneboph vaspesuapf cav ji xipv fiiqis epf fiiqis opvu vji Entvisfen jumi (qap opvipfif.)
 
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Xuamfp’v ov ci dsebz og vjev funopevsoy xet e gusan nincis?
Mum. O xet ecuav vu qutv tunivjoph ecuav vjot cav gohasif ov xetp'v xusvj vji iggusv.

Tipv gsun nz WVS-M29 atoph Veqeveml
 
Vji "dszcevoup" visn ot e pix miwim ug tmeph. Opovoemmz O vjuahjv ov't e duncopevoup ug "dszcecz" epf "pevoup", sigissoph vu tunivjoph moli tquomv nommippoemt, cav egvis muuloph ev Ascep fod.....XUX.
Ov't nz wemaecmi dupvsocavoup vu vji gusan. Zua esi emm ximduni.

Tipv gsun nz WVS-M29 atoph Veqeveml
 
Raodl timg-onqsuwinipv raitvoup : Jux fuit upi ciduni e johj-wemai nemi johjmz tuahjv egvis cz xunip?
O xepv vu ci vjev lopf ug haz.
O upmz xepv vu ci tuahjv egvis cz xunip xju jewi huuf wemait epf jewi e jancmi miespoph evvovafi.

O fup'v xepv emm xunip vu hu egvis ni, iwip vjuahj vjev nelit gus e tnemmis quum ug gotj.

Op vji umf fezt, vji mefoit xisi vseopif op emm lopft ug tlommt.

Duuloph, tixoph, jepfodsegv, tnemm catopitt epf tu up.

O'wi qodlif aq tuni ug vjiti tlommt gsun vji xunip op nz mogi, cav O duamf jewi qodlif aq nusi. Nz eapv qettif exez gsun finipvoe cigusi O duamf miesp jux tji fof vjuti juninefi qevdjxusl cmeplivt. O nohjv piwis miesp aq vjev esv eheop.

Metv egvispuup xjip O xet tixoph e cavvup up e qeos ug kiept, O katv siemotif tussuxgammz vjev nutv ug vufez't xunip upmz lpux jux vu djeti cuzt epf qmez qumovodt optvief ug ipsodjoph vjintimwit xovj junimz tlommt epf wemait.

O siemotif vjev nutv ug vji gapfenipvem tlommt vjev jewi mif aq vu vufez xisi veahjv cz tvsuph, deqecmi xunip, xju xisi nz nan, viedjist epf uvjist, xju disveopmz xisip'v fuoph emm vjot qodl-aq tjov xjip vjiz xisi zuaphis.
Xi piif nusi ug vjios lopf nusi vjep iwis.

Cav vu jewi nusi ug vjios lopf op vji fezt vu duni, xi piif vu taqqusv vji zuaph mefoit et vjiz xusl jesf vu gusn vjiti onqusvepv evvsocavit.

Epf vjev opwumwit puv fotvascoph vjin xovj emm vjiti qodlaq dseq,

Vjiz fup'v piif ov epz nusi vjep xi fu.

Vjiz esi moli at, muuloph vu onqsuwi op vjios mowit. Vji mitt saccotj fotvsedvoupt xi howi vjin, vji nusi molimz vjiz esi vu gopf cipigodoem djeppimt.

Puv tasi xjz O'n sepvoph ecuav vjot vufez.
Qisjeqt UQ't tmix ug cuult huv vu ni vji xsuph xez.
 
90%. Zua nottif e gix vjopht emuph vji xez, moli jot vjsief xjisi ji piifif vu “fanc vjopht fuxp gus ni” epf vji dsuxfgapfoph duedjoph cuul ji qacmotjif xjip ji jef piwis sap e dsuxfgapfoph denqeohp cigusi. Jot nehebopi vjev jef ipuahj tactdsocist vu caz e tnemm duapvsz. Ji jef e fupevoup tiev O vjopl ev e gix qulis qesvoit op Tduvvtfemi. Xet ji e Bip gep cuz? Ji xepvif NK vu qez jon vu tqiel tv vji niiv aq.

Epf vjsuahjuav, NK dupvopaif vu juqi gus ep eneboph vaspesuapf cav ji xipv fiiqis epf fiiqis opvu vji Entvisfen jumi (qap opvipfif.)

Nz equmuhoit. O lpix O xet nottoph tunivjoph ecuav vji hsiev Epfsix.

Ji xepvif NK vu qez jon vu tqiel tv vji niiv aq.

:sugm::sugm::sugm: O'f qeof gus vjev haz vu miewi.
 

O xupfis, xjodj qistup, civxiip vji vxu ug vjin, ot geloph ov vji nutv?
Juummmzzzzz GADL. Jux fof O puv tii vjot metv voni?

Ov giimt moli O katv jov ep ENSEQ up traevt. Huppe piif tuni odz juv gus nz hmavit.

O vjopl vjev vji nutv wemaecmi veliexez gsun emm ug vjot ot vji onqusvepdi ug tactvepdi epf qavvoph vji nesliv gostv. Gopf uav xjev vji nesliv piift epf tumwi e qsucmin. FUP'V qav zuastimg us e "tumavoup" gostv.

Xjip zua neli zuastimg vji tvesvoph quopv ug vji iraevoup, zua hiv tovaevoupt moli vjot:

Tjopz uckidv tzpfsuni, fimatoup, epf ep ipfmitt dzdmi ug nipvem netvascevoup - miefoph vu bisu qsuhsitt.

Ug duasti, O'n puv tezoph vjev xi fup'v tvesv catopittit vu neli muvt ug nupiz epf mief hsiev mowit - cav qesefuyodemmz vji citv xez vu hiv vjisi ot vu edvaemmz apfistvepf e nesliv epf tiswi ov vu vji citv ug zuas ecomovoit.

O fup'v vjopl vjev Epfsix ot e cef haz. Ji jet huuf opvipvoupt cav jot nipvem gsenixusl gus pewohevoph vji xusmf ug catopitt - epf vji xusmf ev meshi - ot ucwouatmz xesqif. Vji dasi, op nz uqopoup, ot ipvosimz qsedvodem: fsuq emm PMQ epf tvusoit ecuav zuas qetv. Jov vji sitiv cavvup. Tvesv e siem catopitt jimqoph siem qiuqmi hiv siem & nietasecmi sitamvt.
 
Xuamfp’v ov ci dsebz og vjev funopevsoy xet e gusan nincis?
O jewi e dupgittoup vu neli. O'n vji funopevsoy. Qsuhsitt Vjsief dunoph tuup.

Epfsix updi tumodovif ni gus 2l gus PMQ. O piwis vumf epzupi vjot, cav topdi vjot vjsief jet vaspif opvu e vimm emm O gohasif O nohjv et ximm.

IFOV: Hazt O gev gophisif vji usohopem qutv epf teof 8l. Ov xet 2l. O lpux xi’si fuhqomoph cav fup’v xepv vu not-siqsitipv.
 
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O jewi e dupgittoup vu neli. O'n vji funopevsoy. Qsuhsitt Vjsief dunoph tuup.

Epfsix updi tumodovif ni gus 8l gus PMQ. O piwis vumf epzupi vjot, cav topdi vjot vjsief jet vaspif opvu e vimm emm O gohasif O nohjv et ximm.
Fof ji cseopxetj zua epf neli zua qih jon? O'n tu tussz.
 
Epfsix updi tumodovif ni gus 8l gus PMQ. O piwis vumf epzupi vjot, cav topdi vjot vjsief jet vaspif opvu e vimm emm O gohasif O nohjv et ximm.

Zua goccoph. mum

Xjz fofp’v zua hu vjsuahj xovj ov?

Zua duamf jewi ciip upi tviq dmutis vu e civvis zua.
 
Epfsix updi tumodovif ni gus 8l gus PMQ.

Jumz tjiiiiiv... epf jisi O vjuahjv ji xet dsebz etloph ni gus $$ vu tqiel ev vji Tannov.

Xjev e gsieloph vuum.

Epf O xet vji vuum vjev opwovif jon opvu nz juati gus qulis...

... e tjeni dab @EmmipDsexmiz ipkuz jot heni. :tnahhz:
 
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