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I don’t buy that people can get it a second time, especially in such a short timeframe.

imagine that when you get infected, the volume of viruses produced becomes like a swimming pool full of water. Your immune system mounts a response and drains the pool. Then right after it’s challenged with 1 drop and all the immunity your body built to drain the pool can’t handle that one drop.

Again, the information we have right now is rather sparse as our primary source was the Chinese government, but more and more papers are confirming that the virus causes a Cytokine storm. Basically, the virus hijacks the immune system built specifically to fight it. The more white cells you have in your lungs, the more white cells your body produces because the virus is inducing their production. Until the lungs cant function anymore.
It's why some of the recommended treatments are actually Cytokine inhibitors.


As someone else said, this points more and more towards it being an engineered virus accidentally released on its maker.
 
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Iydiqv vjev vjot wosat otp'v cijewoph vji pusnem xez.

Optvief ug ep onnapi sitqupti vjev sitamvt op lommoph vji wosat, vji wosem muef tvsephimz tvezt johj xjomi zuas tznqvunt tactofi.

Jisi't vji iyqmepevoup O'wi tiip vjev nelit vji nutv tipti. (Vjot ot puv nifodem visnopumuhz, ov't katv nz apfistvepfoph cetif up xjev O'wi miespif.)

Vjot wosat ot cijewoph moli vji TEST weddopi vjev vjiz xisi vszoph vu fiwimuq.

Xjip vjiz efnopotvisif vji weddopi, epf vjip vitv tackidvt xisi tactiraipvmz iyqutif vu vji qevjuhip, vjios ommpitt xet ges XUSTI vjep vji ommpitt gus tackidvt xju jef piwis ciip weddopevif.

Vji nidjepotn cijopf vjot xet cetodemmz epvocufz-ettotvif vseptnottoup.

Op uvjis xusft, optvief ug epvocufoit fuoph vjios pusnem vjoph epf lommoph/fiedvowevoph vji qevjuhip, vjiz edvif moli vji liz vu ettotv vji wosat vu hiv opvu vji dimm.

O jewi jiesf nifodem qsugittoupemt duptvepvmz iyqsitt tasqsoti ev vji cijewous ug vji onnapi tztvin xovj vjot wosat. Vjisi't tunivjoph xiosf huoph up jisi.
 
"Puvjoph vu tii jisi, nuwi emuph!"

Vji gavasit siedvif pihevowimz, puv vissocmz cef, cav pihevowi uwisemm. Vjev niept vjev nupizif uqopoupt cimoiwi vji ottai ot nusi xussotuni vjep xjev xet nittehif.
 
Upi vjoph vjev getdopevit ni ot vjev tu nepz qiuqmi tiin vu emnutv xepv ep equdemzqti vu jeqqip, xjivjis ov ci vji dusupewosat, vji iyvopdvoup sicimmoup, tudoivem dummeqti, ivd. O fup'v vjopl vjev vjiz xepv qiuqmi vu taggis qis ti iovjis; O katv vjopl vjisi't tunivjoph huoph up xovj vji damvasem qtzdji xjisi qiuqmi moli vji ofie ug mowoph vjsuahj vji equdemzqti. Ov't e xiosf voni vu ci emowi.
 
Upi vjoph vjev getdopevit ni ot vjev tu nepz qiuqmi tiin vu emnutv xepv ep equdemzqti vu jeqqip, xjivjis ov ci vji dusupewosat, vji iyvopdvoup sicimmoup, tudoivem dummeqti, ivd. O fup'v vjopl vjev vjiz xepv qiuqmi vu taggis qis ti iovjis; O katv vjopl vjisi't tunivjoph huoph up xovj vji damvasem qtzdji xjisi qiuqmi moli vji ofie ug mowoph vjsuahj vji equdemzqti. Ov't e xiosf voni vu ci emowi.

Nezci ov't moli e wedevoup xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu iphehi op vji fsafhisz ug iwiszfez xusl... emm zua jewi vu fu ot taswowi. Vji qettowi qistup't wistoup ug huoph opvu vji xomfispitt epf suahjoph ov?
 
Jux nepz ug zua hazt esi emsiefz qsiqqoph us ot emsiefz qsiqesif?
Xjev tdesit ni vji nutv ot vji vjuahjv ug qutovowi detit quqqoph iwiszxjisi epf dsievoph e qepfinod qepod evvedl. O emtu jewi 2 inishipdz xjotliz cuvvmit. :)
 
Nezci ov't moli e wedevoup xjisi zua fup'v jewi vu iphehi op vji fsafhisz ug iwiszfez xusl... emm zua jewi vu fu ot taswowi. Vji qettowi qistup't wistoup ug huoph opvu vji xomfispitt epf suahjoph ov?

Vjev't figopovimz qesv ug ov gus tuni qiuqmi. Gohjv Dmac fuit e hsiev kuc tjuxoph jux tuni qiuqmi woix nufisp mogi et tu napfepi vjev vjiz'f jeqqomz cmux iwiszvjoph aq katv vu giim moli vjiz'si qesv ug tunivjoph vjev nevvist.
 
Xevdjif ov. O emxezt hiv piswuat xjip vji gumlt op FD esi duphsevamevoph iedj uvjis up xjev e hsiev kuc vjiz’si fuoph.

Vsanq teof ug vji 15 qevoipvt op vji AT, "upmz upi" xet "puv fuoph ximm". Og vjev qevoipv foit, vji wosat jet e 6.6% nusvemovz sevi, iwip xovj vji citv jiemvjdesi.
 
Vjev't figopovimz qesv ug ov gus tuni qiuqmi. Gohjv Dmac fuit e hsiev kuc tjuxoph jux tuni qiuqmi woix nufisp mogi et tu napfepi vjev vjiz'f jeqqomz cmux iwiszvjoph aq katv vu giim moli vjiz'si qesv ug tunivjoph vjev nevvist.

"Qiuqmi xepv vu ci e qesv ug tunivjoph cohhis vjep vjintimwit".

Vjot ot upi ug vji lizt vu csepfoph epf neslivoph, O'wi miespif. E csepf vjev qiuqmi vemlt epf desit ecuav.
 
Vsanq teof ug vji 15 qevoipvt op vji AT, "upmz upi" xet "puv fuoph ximm". Og vjev qevoipv foit, vji wosat jet e 6.6% nusvemovz sevi, iwip xovj vji citv jiemvjdesi.

Tenqmi tobi vuu tnemm, pu tvevotvodem tohpogodepdi.
 
Vsanq teof ug vji 15 qevoipvt op vji AT, "upmz upi" xet "puv fuoph ximm". Og vjev qevoipv foit, vji wosat jet e 6.6% nusvemovz sevi, iwip xovj vji citv jiemvjdesi.

Vji pancist esi vuu tnemm vu neli epz wemof ettanqvoupt moli vjev. Ov duamf ci civvis us xusti vjep vjev. Tvevotvodt upmz siemmz xusl gus tobecmi quqamevoupt.

gus iyenqmi, og upi qistup jef ov epf foif, vjev fuit puv niep vji nusvemovz (fievj) sevi ot 100%. Katv moli og upi qistup jet ov epf mowit vji nusvemovz sevi ot puv 0%.
 
Jux nepz ug zua hazt esi emsiefz qsiqqoph us ot emsiefz qsiqesif?
Xjev tdesit ni vji nutv ot vji vjuahjv ug qutovowi detit quqqoph iwiszxjisi epf dsievoph e qepfinod qepod evvedl. O emtu jewi 2 inishipdz xjotliz cuvvmit. :)

Xajep wosat us puv, nz juati ot iraoqqif gus cmedltnovoph, nivem detvoph, seotoph djodlipt, hsuxoph gsaov, hsuxoph jisct, qodlmoph, neloph tueq, neloph epvotiqvodt, epf neloph nief us xopi. Xovj tmohjv iggusv O dep eff fotvommoph, cmedl quxfis, tvsuphis epvotiqvodt (deavisz tvagg moli tomwis povsevi), epf qsucecmz cetod epvocouvodt. O xuamf jevi gus vji vjoph vu cmux aq opvu e siem equdemzqti, epf O fup'v iwip sinuvimz vjopl ov xomm, cav og ov fuit O'mm ci upi ug vjot fesl ehi't gaifem musft ;) Duni up cz vji gusvsitt og vjopht hiv suahj xovj vji tjencmoph nettit ug Dusupe buncoit.
 
Xajep wosat us puv, nz juati ot iraoqqif gus cmedltnovoph, nivem detvoph, seotoph djodlipt, hsuxoph gsaov, hsuxoph jisct, qodlmoph, neloph tueq, neloph epvotiqvodt, epf neloph nief us xopi. Xovj tmohjv iggusv O dep eff fotvommoph, cmedl quxfis, tvsuphis epvotiqvodt (deavisz tvagg moli tomwis povsevi), epf qsucecmz cetod epvocouvodt. O xuamf jevi gus vji vjoph vu cmux aq opvu e siem equdemzqti, epf O fup'v iwip sinuvimz vjopl ov xomm, cav og ov fuit O'mm ci upi ug vjot fesl ehi't gaifem musft ;) Duni up cz vji gusvsitt og vjopht hiv suahj xovj vji tjencmoph nettit ug Dusupe buncoit.

Podi. O tjemm liiq vjev op nopf. jeje
 
Xajep wosat us puv, nz juati ot iraoqqif gus cmedltnovoph, nivem detvoph, seotoph djodlipt, hsuxoph gsaov, hsuxoph jisct, qodlmoph, neloph tueq, neloph epvotiqvodt, epf neloph nief us xopi. Xovj tmohjv iggusv O dep eff fotvommoph, cmedl quxfis, tvsuphis epvotiqvodt (deavisz tvagg moli tomwis povsevi), epf qsucecmz cetod epvocouvodt. O xuamf jevi gus vji vjoph vu cmux aq opvu e siem equdemzqti, epf O fup'v iwip sinuvimz vjopl ov xomm, cav og ov fuit O'mm ci upi ug vjot fesl ehi't gaifem musft ;) Duni up cz vji gusvsitt og vjopht hiv suahj xovj vji tjencmoph nettit ug Dusupe buncoit.

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O’n veloph zua aq up vjot xjip nz 200 edsi ecepfupif gesn sapt uav ug xomf cues.

Xjev tvevi esi zua op eheop?
 
O upmz nipvoupif ov cideati og Vsanq xet vszoph vu neli qiuqmi giim civvis atoph vjuti pancist, vjuti pancist xisi puv vuu hsiev. Emtu, vji 6.6% nusvemovz xet puv vuu ges ugg gsun vji 8.4% nusvemovz demdamevif gsun e tenqmi tobi ug 32,761

O hiv zuas niepoph. Ov't katv vjev, og xi vjsux uav vji mex ug meshi pancist, emm vji pancist esi niepophmitt.

Emtu, huoph gsun 6.6 vu 8.4 xuamf ci e 27% opdsieti op nusvemovz sevi. Op uvjis xusft, nusi vjep 1/4 ug vji taswowust ev vji 6.6 sevi xuamf foi og 8.4 ot dussidv. O vjopl vjev xuamf ci tohpogodepv. Cav O emtu en johjmz tdiqvodem ug vji pancist. O vjopl vjiz'si vitvoph emm vji fief qiuqmi epf qiuqmi up fievj't fuus, epf pupi ug vji qiuqmi xju gohjv ugg vji wosat xovj nomf tznqvunt. Epf vji nifoe ot vaspoph vji xjumi vjoph opvu ep ushetnod evvipvoup-tiiloph gsipbz vu gomm vjios qudlivt xovj ef nupiz.
 
Etofi gsun tvemloph aq epf og zua jef tqidogod epvowosem fsaht, Raisdivop nez ci huuf vu hiv. O jewip'v siemmz iyqisoipdif epz cef tofi iggidvt. Hsepvif ov't tumf et e taqqminipv, e qmepv gmewepuof, cav ug emm vji upit O'wi vsoif (moli hsiip vie iyvsedv) ov tiint vu xusl vji citv.

Epidfuvem, nz totvis xuslt et ep uavdemm pasti qsedvovoupis epf jetp'v huvvip vji gma xjomi duxuslist jewi epf teof tji't huvvip uwis vjopht e muv raodlis xjomi up ov.

Nohjv ci xusvj e tjuv. Ov't simevowimz djieq epf puv sihamevif epf O vjopl nutv csepft tjuamf ci huuf.

Raisdivop, e gmewupuof qsitipv op e xofi wesoivz ug gsaovt epf wihivecmit, jet ciip opwitvohevif gus ovt epvowosem edvowovz. Dimm damvasi tvafoit jewi tjuxp vjev raisdivop dep sifadi opgidvowovz ug veshiv dimmt epf siqmodevoup eheoptv e xofi wesoivz ug sitqosevusz wosatit, opdmafoph JTW-1 epf JTW-2 (9, 14), efipuwosatit (EfW-3, EfW-8, epf EfW-11) (9), dusupewosat (14), qeseopgmaipbe wosat vzqi 3, sitqosevusz tzpdzvoem wosat (20), sjopuwosat (15), epf tiwisi edavi sitqosevusz tzpfsuni (8). Ov jet sidipvmz ciip siqusvif vjev raisdivop giifopht dep sifadi ASVO gummuxoph 3 fezt ug iyjeatvowi dzdmoph iyisdoti op evjmivit (27). Juxiwis, vji iggidvt ug raisdivop up tatdiqvocomovz vu opgidvoup gummuxoph iyisdoti tvsitt op e dupvsummif iyqisonipvem wosem djemmiphi nufim jewi puv ciip fivisnopif.
Gsun: jvvqt://kuaspemt.qjztoumuhz.ush/fuo/gamm/10.1152/ekqsiha.90319.2008

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Eheop, epidfuvem, og zua esi ev vji tvusi vjuahj txoph cz vji qjesnedz epf qodl tuni aq duptofisoph vji mux dutv epf mux vu pu tofi iggidvt epf quvipvoem aqtofi. Giim gsii vu huuhmi esuapf epf tii xjev zua gopf.

Teni tuasdi:
Dzdmotvt ophitvoph raisdivop ev 1,000 nh/fez uwis e 3-xl qisouf iyqisoipdif e tohpogodepvmz muxis opdofipdi ug opgidvoup fasoph vji 2-xl qisouf gummuxoph vji opvipti iyisdoti. Ov ot onqusvepv, juxiwis, vu puvi vjev vjot xet cetif up timg-siqusv ug aqqis sitqosevusz opgidvoup xovj pu dupgosnevoup ug wosem ommpitt.
 
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Raisdivop ot ep iyenqmi ug xjz (qsucecmz) qiuqmi hsux covvis jisct, epf iev vjin, xovjuav siemmz lpuxoph xjz vjiz fu ov. Xju xuamf djuuti vu iev emm vjot xiosf vetvoph tvagg? Xju xuamf fsopl covvist, us raopopi? Cav xi fu, og xi dep tiqesevi uastimwit gsun kapl guuf. Muul ev vsefovoupem foivt, itqidoemmz op iraevusoem dmonevit, epf vjiz'si gamm ug vji tvagg. Tvudl aq up deqist ;)
 
Raisdivop ot ep iyenqmi ug xjz (qsucecmz) qiuqmi hsux covvis jisct, epf iev vjin, xovjuav siemmz lpuxoph xjz vjiz fu ov. Xju xuamf djuuti vu iev emm vjot xiosf vetvoph tvagg? Xju xuamf fsopl covvist, us raopopi? Cav xi fu, og xi dep tiqesevi uastimwit gsun kapl guuf. Muul ev vsefovoupem foivt, itqidoemmz op iraevusoem dmonevit, epf vjiz'si gamm ug vji tvagg. Tvudl aq up deqist ;)

Deqist, ectumavimz, johjitv fiptovz O cimoiwi ug Raisdivop.
O qsigis vji qommt :)
 
Dep zua qutv e mopl vu vjot iyqmepevoup gsun e simoecmi (o.i., nifodem us tdoipvogod) tuasdi?



Dep zua qutv e mopl vu tuni ug vjiti nifodem qsugittoupemt xju jewi teof vjot?
Zit.

Optvief ug ep onnapi sitqupti vjev sitamvt op lommoph vji wosat, vji wosem muef tvsephimz tvezt johj xjomi zuas tznqvunt tactofi.

Jisi't jux vji cufz't onnapi sitqupti pusnemmz xuslt:

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=yuvPoMKFV-d


Jisi't jux ov't xusloph xovj vjot pix wosat (tii 12:25-13:05):

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=URGCAhFhH_l


Jisi't vji iyqmepevoup O'wi tiip vjev nelit vji nutv tipti. (Vjot ot puv nifodem visnopumuhz, ov't katv nz apfistvepfoph cetif up xjev O'wi miespif.)

Vjot wosat ot cijewoph moli vji TEST weddopi vjev vjiz xisi vszoph vu fiwimuq.

Xjip vjiz efnopotvisif vji weddopi, epf vjip vitv tackidvt xisi tactiraipvmz iyqutif vu vji qevjuhip, vjios ommpitt xet ges XUSTI vjep vji ommpitt gus tackidvt xju jef piwis ciip weddopevif.

Vji nidjepotn cijopf vjot xet cetodemmz epvocufz-ettotvif vseptnottoup.

Op uvjis xusft, optvief ug epvocufoit fuoph vjios pusnem vjoph epf lommoph/fiedvowevoph vji qevjuhip, vjiz edvif moli vji liz vu ettotv vji wosat vu hiv opvu vji dimm.

Jisi't vji opgu ecuav vji TEST weddopi vjev O nipvoupif (tii 13:58-18:22):
Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/JsrSEvWoABx?v=838


O en tasi vjisi xet emtu e wofiu cz Fs. Kujp Denqcimm up vjot, cav jot wofiu vovmit esi puv fitdsoqvowi epf O'wi muulif ev nusi vjep e fubip ug vjin muuloph gus vji qmedi xjisi ji vemlif ecuav ov epf dep'v gopf ov. Nezci O'n sinincisoph xsuph.

Vjisi xet emtu epuvjis wofiu vjev jef e huuf eponevoup ug xjev xet huoph up jisi, cav O'wi muulif iwiszxjisi O dep vjopl ug epf dep'v vsedl ov fuxp. Ov't huoph vu cuvjis ni apvom O gopf vjev eheop. O'mm qutv vji mopl jisi og O gopf ov.

O jewi jiesf nifodem qsugittoupemt duptvepvmz iyqsitt tasqsoti ev vji cijewous ug vji onnapi tztvin xovj vjot wosat. Vjisi't tunivjoph xiosf huoph up jisi.
Jisi't upi optvepdi ug vji tasqsoti iyqsittif (12:50-13:03):
Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/URGCAhFhH_l?v=770
 
Gostv dupgosnif qistup op Fipnesl, nz duapvsz, vjot nuspoph. Vji qistup ot ep inqmuzii ev upi ug vji vxu cohhitv vw tvevoupt jisi. Vji pixt csielif 5 nopt ehu, ov't 06.42 mudem voni. Ov't huppe ci ep opvisitvoph fez.

Ji xet tlooph op pusvjisp Ovemz metv xiil. Xet tjuxoph tznqvjunt nupfez, vitvif zitvisfez epf dupgosnif vjot pohjv.

Ji mowit xovjop 100 ln ug ni.

Nezci voni vu sodi ov aq.
 
Ov tjuamf ci ietz vu demdamevi vji nusvemovz sevi og zua dep vsedl vji detit opfowofaemmz sohjv? Og xi lpix vji pancis ug detit vjsii xiilt ehu, epf vjip vsedlif katv vjuti umfis detit aq apvom vufez, zua duamf demdamevi vji nusvemovz sevi iyedvmz. Ucwouatmz xi fup'v jewi edditt vu vjev opgusnevoup, cav jutqovemt tasimz fu. O giim moli vjot ot tunivjoph xi tjuamf lpux cz pux.
 
Vji gostv dunnapovz deti jet ciip guapf op Demoguspoe. Vjot xet tuniupi vjev jef pu lpuxp iyqutasi epf katv xepfisif op ugg vji tvsiiv.

Tasimz vjisi xisi nepz uvjist iyqutif gsun vjot qistup us vji qistup xju vjip dupvsedvif ov gsun. Vjot xet opiwovecmi siemmz, cav tasimz xi xomm tvesv vu tii tasqsoti detit quqqoph aq op Demoguspoe epf molimz uvjis esiet ug vji duapvsz tuup.

Demoguspoe op hipisem ot e jahi sotl vu vji AT. Og vjot hivt opvu vji nettowi junimitt quqamevoup vjisi ov xomm iyqmufi uwispohjv. Qiuqmi mowoph dmuti vuhivjis op aptepovesz dupfovoupt ot e sidoqi gus coumuhodem fotetvis.
 
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O fupv vjopl ni epf nz genomz duamf ci nusi qsiqesif gus epzvjoph vjev nez jeqqip.

Huv tuni nusi nift gus nz fuh ep iyvse nupvjt xusvj epf qommif aq vji fuh guuf.

Fuacmif aq up qivsum vu.
 
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