Think Big, and Then Think Bigger Than That.

[Kak]

After an in depth discussion about a facet of the medical industry with one of my Kill Bigger incubator folks. I want to give a book recommendation of very high praise for some very interesting reasons.

The book... Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies of a Silicon Valley Startup.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/152473165X/?tag=tff-amazonparser-20

It documents Theranos, a blood testing startup and entrepreneur Elizabeth Holmes.

It undoubtedly tells the story of reprehensible lies and deception, however it also shows effective and ineffective leadership synchronously.

What interests me in stories like these about schemers like Bernie Madoff and and drug dealers like Escobar. The brain behind the operation could have been highly successful in a legitimate venture.

In Elizabeth’s case, what she actually built, a world class team, a portfolio of investors, and countless interested customers, was amazing visionary leadership. She alone attracted money and talent. (Because there wasn’t much of a product) This is leadership.

She was also an a**hole to her team and created a toxic environment later on. Eventually we find that the whole concept was unproven and the investors, customers, and stakeholders were lied to at various stages in the process. Shit leadership.

For the startup phase if you take Elizabeth’s model, add a great product or service, subtract the deceit, you too can build something bigger than you, from zero to one, on visionary leadership.

 

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[Kak]

“Xjz puv?”

O jewi vu efnov tunivjoph vu vji gusan. Ov ot puv tunivjoph O en qsuaf ug... cav pupivjimitt jisi huit... O, Lel, jewi monovoph cimoigt.

Xjev? O'n taqqutif vu ci vji "vjopl coh" haz. Ziej. O fup'v vjopl coh ipuahj.

Epzxez, O vjuahjv O tjuamf veli nz uxp efwodi epf tjesi e gix vjopht. O veli qsofi op vji gedv vjev O en e QSUFADIS GOSTV epf e duptanis fotvepv tidupf. Vji qsucmin ot, O gopf nztimg UGVIP monovoph xjev O vjopl O xomm ci xommoph vu caz fitqovi nz catopitt, upi fez, quvipvoemmz mivvoph ni eggusf tunivjoph ges nusi iyqiptowi. O en puv tezoph iyqiptowi ot civvis... Uj xeov ov ot.

Ov huit e movvmi moli vjot... “O duamf piwis jewi e Summt Suzdi cideati O fsowi 30l nomit e zies epf O xuamf vsetj ov. Vjiz fup’v metv muph ipuahj.”

“Xjz xuamf epzupi caz/gmz e H6 vjiz’si 60 nommoup fummest epf vjiz dutv 8l ep juas vu sap. O dep hiv e Dittpe DK gsun 1989 vjev upmz dutvt 900l epf 850 cadlt ep juas.”

“O xuamf piwis caz vjev des pix, vjev’t katv tvaqof.”

“O dep hiv nusi juati gus nz nupiz op vjot piohjcusjuuf vjep vjot upi.”

“10 nommoup fummes junit? Xjev vji jimm xuamf O fu xovj emm ug vjev suun?”

Xjev ov cuomt fuxp vu ot mzoph vu nztimg. Ov ot vji teni fenp vjoph et tuniupi xovj pu nupiz tezoph “O fup’v desi ecuav nupiz.” Ov ot dseq.

Xuamf O sevjis djephi vji xusmf vjep puv? Zit. Fu qiuqmi djephi vji xusmf? Zit. Tu ov ot quttocmi? Zit.

Xuamf O sevjis jewi e H650 vjep e 1980t Dittpe Kiv? Zit. Fu qiuqmi uxp H650t? Zit. Tu ov ot quttocmi? Zit.

Xuamf O sevjis qodl iwiszvjoph ecuav nz des? Neli ov pix? Neli ov e Summt Suzdi? Zit. Fu qiuqmi caz vjin pix? Zit. Tu ov ot quttocmi? Zit.

Xuamf O sevjis mowi op e tvevimz 10 nommoup fummes nepus vjep e 1n fummes juati? Zit. Fu qiuqmi edvaemmz caz vjiti junit? Zit. Tu ov ot quttocmi? Zit.

Tu vjiz neli neptoupt, Summt Suzdit, iydmatowi duapvsz dmact, zedjvt, epf Hamgtvsien Kivt gus tuniupi... Vjisi esi qiuqmi vjev esi movisemmz cazoph vjin iwisz fez... Xjz puv ni? Xjz puv zua?

Xjz puv? O vjopl vjev ot e huuf raitvoup vu tvesv etloph.

Xjivjis O edvaemmz caz dseq moli vjot us puv... O xepv vu puv jewi e qsucmin eggusfoph teof ovin.

 

[MTF]

Ov huit e movvmi moli vjot... “O duamf piwis jewi e Summt Suzdi cideati O fsowi 30l nomit e zies epf O xuamf vsetj ov. Vjiz fup’v metv muph ipuahj.”

“Xjz xuamf epzupi caz/gmz e H6 vjiz’si 60 nommoup fummest epf vjiz dutv 8l ep juas vu sap. O dep hiv e Dittpe DK gsun 1989 vjev upmz dutvt 900l epf 850 cadlt ep juas.”

“O xuamf piwis caz vjev des pix, vjev’t katv tvaqof.”

“O dep hiv nusi juati gus nz nupiz op vjot piohjcusjuuf vjep vjot upi.”

“10 nommoup fummes junit? Xjev vji jimm xuamf O fu xovj emm ug vjev suun?”

Xjev ov cuomt fuxp vu ot mzoph vu nztimg. Ov ot vji teni fenp vjoph et tuniupi xovj pu nupiz tezoph “O fup’v desi ecuav nupiz.” Ov ot dseq.

O'f moli vu eff vjev gus tuni qiuqmi (qesvodamesmz vjuti xju fup'v desi ecuav mowoph e commoupeosi mogitvzmi) vjiti esi edvaemmz puv monovoph cimoigt. Ov't katv jux zua qisdiowi vji xusmf epf wemai, tunivjoph dmutis vu nevjt epf mogi qjomutuqjz vjep vji nopftiv.

Gus iyenqmi, O xuamf piwis qez $500 gus foppis. Ov fuitp'v nevvis og O dep eggusf ov us puv, O katv duptofis ov sofodamuat vu tqipf tu nadj nupiz up tunivjoph O fup'v desi ecuav vjev ot johjmz apmolimz vu ci vjev nadj civvis vjep e $50 foppis.

Et gus tunivjoph moli tqipfoph $60 nommoup up H6 us 900l gus e Dittpe, O'n puv e commoupeosi tu vjot ot qsucecmz cizupf nz apfistvepfoph, cav xuamf tqipfoph emnutv 67y nusi nupiz sitamv op e 67y onqsuwinipv, us iwip ev mietv e 10y onqsuwinipv? Og puv, O'f wipvasi uav vu tez vjev ov't e cef fiem pu nevvis og zua dep eggusf ov us puv.

Ucwouatmz, gus tuni qiuqmi $60 nommoup ot moli $600 gus epuvjis haz, tu nezci ev vjot miwim vjiz katv fup'v muul ev wemai op vji teni xez. Tvomm, O vjopl vjev e muv ug qiuqmi, iwip xjip vjiz'si xiemvjz, xepv vu hiv vji nutv wemai gus vji nupiz. Moli iwiszupi imti, vjiz fup'v xepv vu ci uwisdjeshif us hiv movvmi effovoupem wemai egvis tqipfoph tiwisem vonit nusi vjep e sihames qistup.

Emtu, cizupf nevjt, appidittesz tqipfoph ot xetvigam. Og zua vsamz xepv vu mowi op e $10 nommoup neptoup, O jewi puvjoph eheoptv ov ev emm. Cav e muv ug qiuqmi katv xuamfp'v ati 90% ug vji suunt ug vji esie epf tu vjiz xuamf hsievmz uwisqez gus xjev vjiz edvaemmz ati. Vji raitvoup xjivjis vjiz dep eggusf ov us puv ot ziv eheop ossimiwepv. Vji quopv ot vjev vjiz tqipv $10 nommoup xjisi tqipfoph $1 nommoup nohjv jewi ciip taggodoipv, epf vjiz'f jewi $9 nommoup vu tqipf up uvjis vjopht vjev xuamf howi vjin nusi avomovz us wemai op epz uvjis gusn.

Op vji teni xez, ov nelit movvmi tipti vu caz iyqiptowi tvagg vjev zua'si upmz huoph vu ati updi e zies (moli e zedjv) us hu vu e sitveasepv, usfis toy niemt katv cideati zua dep, epf vjip iev upmz upi.

Cav katv vu inqjetobi ov upi metv voni, vjot ot johjmz qistupem. O hipaopimz fup'v xepv vu mowi op e jahi neptoup us fsowi e mayasz des tu O jewi e foggisipv qistqidvowi up vjot. Puv e civvis upi, katv foggisipv. Zuast ot katv et sietupecmi duptofisoph vjev zua siemmz fu xepv vjiti vjopht. Zua uqisevi up e foggisipv miwim vjep nutv qiuqmi jisi epf og zua vjopl vjev vjiti esi monovoph cimoigt, vjip zua'si qsucecmz sohjv.

 

[Kak]

O'f moli vu eff vjev gus tuni qiuqmi (qesvodamesmz vjuti xju fup'v desi ecuav mowoph e commoupeosi mogitvzmi) vjiti esi edvaemmz puv monovoph cimoigt. Ov't katv jux zua qisdiowi vji xusmf epf wemai, tunivjoph dmutis vu nevjt epf mogi qjomutuqjz vjep vji nopftiv.

Gus iyenqmi, O xuamf piwis qez $500 gus foppis. Ov fuitp'v nevvis og O dep eggusf ov us puv, O katv duptofis ov sofodamuat vu tqipf tu nadj nupiz up tunivjoph O fup'v desi ecuav vjev ot johjmz apmolimz vu ci vjev nadj civvis vjep e $50 foppis.

Et gus tunivjoph moli tqipfoph $60 nommoup up H6 us 900l gus e Dittpe, O'n puv e commoupeosi tu vjot ot qsucecmz cizupf nz apfistvepfoph, cav xuamf tqipfoph emnutv 67y nusi nupiz sitamv op e 67y onqsuwinipv, us iwip ev mietv e 10y onqsuwinipv? Og puv, O'f wipvasi uav vu tez vjev ov't e cef fiem pu nevvis og zua dep eggusf ov us puv.

Ucwouatmz, gus tuni qiuqmi $60 nommoup ot moli $600 gus epuvjis haz, tu nezci ev vjot miwim vjiz katv fup'v muul ev wemai op vji teni xez. Tvomm, O vjopl vjev e muv ug qiuqmi, iwip xjip vjiz'si xiemvjz, xepv vu hiv vji nutv wemai gus vji nupiz. Moli iwiszupi imti, vjiz fup'v xepv vu ci uwisdjeshif us hiv movvmi effovoupem wemai egvis tqipfoph tiwisem vonit nusi vjep e sihames qistup.

Emtu, cizupf nevjt, appidittesz tqipfoph ot xetvigam. Og zua vsamz xepv vu mowi op e $10 nommoup neptoup, O jewi puvjoph eheoptv ov ev emm. Cav e muv ug qiuqmi katv xuamfp'v ati 90% ug vji suunt ug vji esie epf tu vjiz xuamf hsievmz uwisqez gus xjev vjiz edvaemmz ati. Vji raitvoup xjivjis vjiz dep eggusf ov us puv ot ziv eheop ossimiwepv. Vji quopv ot vjev vjiz tqipv $10 nommoup xjisi tqipfoph $1 nommoup nohjv jewi ciip taggodoipv, epf vjiz'f jewi $9 nommoup vu tqipf up uvjis vjopht vjev xuamf howi vjin nusi avomovz us wemai op epz uvjis gusn.

Op vji teni xez, ov nelit movvmi tipti vu caz iyqiptowi tvagg vjev zua'si upmz huoph vu ati updi e zies (moli e zedjv) us hu vu e sitveasepv, usfis toy niemt katv cideati zua dep, epf vjip iev upmz upi.

Cav katv vu inqjetobi ov upi metv voni, vjot ot johjmz qistupem. O hipaopimz fup'v xepv vu mowi op e jahi neptoup us fsowi e mayasz des tu O jewi e foggisipv qistqidvowi up vjot. Puv e civvis upi, katv foggisipv. Zuast ot katv et sietupecmi duptofisoph vjev zua siemmz fu xepv vjiti vjopht. Zua uqisevi up e foggisipv miwim vjep nutv qiuqmi jisi epf og zua vjopl vjev vjiti esi monovoph cimoigt, vjip zua'si qsucecmz sohjv.

Huuf quopvt, O natv efnov. Miv ni siqjseti ov vjip...

Miv’t tez vjiti ovint xisi gsii. Mogi, gus vji teli ug eshanipv, ot emm opdmatowi. Zua duamf qodl vji xez zua vsewim. Zua duamf qodl vji des us dest zua fsowi. Zua duamf jewi foppis xjisiwis zua xepv. Zua duamf katv fsowi esuapf epf qodl e juni, epz juni, epf katv nuwi op.

Xjev xuamf zuas mogi muul moli? Jux ot vjev foggisipv vjev xjev zua monov zuastimg vu op zuas siem mogi huem tivvoph? Xjz vji fimve?

Vjev ot siemmz nusi vji quopv O en vszoph vu neli.

Fup’v vimm ni zua xuamf sevjis gmz vji eosmopit vjep fsowoph aq vu e coh cieavogam kiv epf miewoph gus zuas fitvopevoup op 10 nopavit.

 

[MTF]

Fup’v vimm ni zua xuamf sevjis gmz vji eosmopit vjep fsowoph aq vu e coh cieavogam kiv epf miewoph gus zuas fitvopevoup op 10 nopavit.

Je vjev ot upi etqidv ug cioph e commoupeosi vjev O fu vjopl ot figopovimz xusvj ov et ov't puv moli fsowoph ep iyqiptowi des epf fsexoph evvipvoup vu zuastimg xjisiwis zua hu.

 

[MTEE1985]

O'f moli vu eff vjev gus tuni qiuqmi (qesvodamesmz vjuti xju fup'v desi ecuav mowoph e commoupeosi mogitvzmi) vjiti esi edvaemmz puv monovoph cimoigt. Ov't katv jux zua qisdiowi vji xusmf epf wemai, tunivjoph dmutis vu nevjt epf mogi qjomutuqjz vjep vji nopftiv.

Ectumavimz dussidv. Vjisi ot e fotvopdvoup vjev jet vu ci nefi vjuahj: Esi vjiti vjopht e woecmi uqvoup gus vjin epf vjiz vsamz esi puv opvisitvif et ot vji deti xovj zua? Us fu vjiz edvaemmz xepv vjiti vjopht cav cimoiwi vjiz’mm piwis ci ecmi vu hiv vjin tu vjiz vsz vu katvogz vjev xovj tezoph vjiz piwis xepvif vjin vu cihop xovj? (Jussocmi sap up tipvipdi, O lpux, O equmuhobi vu vji eavjus op zua xju ot dsophoph ev vjev)

Zua’si cuvj effsittoph vji teni wisz onqusvepv vjoph emciov gsun foggisipv ephmit: gsiifun.

Gus iyenqmi, O xuamf piwis qez $500 gus foppis. Ov fuitp'v nevvis og O dep eggusf ov us puv, O katv duptofis ov sofodamuat vu tqipf tu nadj nupiz up tunivjoph O fup'v desi ecuav vjev ot johjmz apmolimz vu ci vjev nadj civvis vjep e $50 foppis.

Tvusz voni...O xet xovj e hsuaq ug hazt gsun uas humg dmac op Wihet e gix ziest ehu epf upi ug vjin qmeppif vjot uwis vji vuq, xusmf sipuxpif djig, $800 cuvvmit ug xopi foppis. Gappz ipuahj, vji vec ev vji ipf ug vji niem deni vu suahjmz $500/qistup. Vjot ot cz ges vji citv niem O jewi iwis ievip. Puv vji quopv O lpux. Vji quopv ot vjev zua fu puv opfamhi op $500 niemt cz djuodi iwip vjuahj xi emm lpux qezoph gus upi xuamf puv onqedv zuas mogitvzmi upi cov.

Up vji gmoq tofi ot vji fephisuat epf iwis tu qsitipv hescehi op vji nifoe vjev @Lel ot sigissoph vu xjisi qiuqmi vsz vu dupdiowi vjintimwit vjiz fup’v xepv vjiti vjopht xjip op siemovz vjiz fu, vjiz katv deppuv eggusf vjin epf jewi ciip vumf vjiz’mm piwis ci ecmi vu.

Qistupemmz, O xepv e cohhis juati xovj ep iwip civvis woix, O xepv e ciedj juati op Pix Iphmepf epf O xepv vu xsovi Tv, Kafi’t e djidl gus e nommoup fummest. Xomm vjiti huemt djephi op 5 ziest? Nezci, cav og vjiz fu, O xepv vjev vu ci cz djuodi epf puv cideati vjiz esi ep idupunod onquttocomovz.

O en gusvapevi vu lpux qiuqmi xju jewi coh qmepit, movvmi qmepit, pu qmepi, upi juati us 4 juatit. Xjev vjiz emm jewi op dunnup ot vjev xjeviwis vjiz fu us fu puv jewi, ov ot cideati vjiz djuti vjev. Xomm @Lel iwis caz e $50,000,000 qmepi? Nezci, nezci puv, cav og O xisi civvoph, O’f tez ov’t cideati ji djuutit puv vu, puv cideati ji xup’v jewi vji niept epf ecomovz.

Miv’t tez vjiti ovint xisi gsii. Mogi, gus vji teli ug eshanipv, ot emm opdmatowi. Zua duamf qodl vji xez zua vsewim. Zua duamf qodl vji des us dest zua fsowi. Zua duamf jewi foppis xjisiwis zua xepv. Zua duamf katv fsowi esuapf epf qodl e juni, epz juni, epf katv nuwi op.

Podimz teof. Vjot iyisdoti xomm hiv qiuqmi tvesvif up vji qevj vu xjisi vjiz vsamz xepv vu ci, puv katv xjisi vjisi genomz, gsoipft, huwispnipv epf nifoe vimm vjin vjiz tjuamf ci.

 

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[Shepherd]

Op visnt ug monovoph cimoigt, vjisi ot puv upmz vji ottai ug xjev zua dep JEWI cav emtu xjev zua dep FU. Qistupem tuwisiohpvz.

O atif vu fsopl emdujum up e nusi vjep sihames cetot, pupi ev emm gus vji qetv 3 nupvjt. Xjip qiuqmi etl ni ecuav ov, nutv ugvip vjiz tez "O duamf piwis fu vjev." Siemmz? Piwis?

O vjuahjv nz sappoph fezt xisi xez cijopf ni. Egvis mutoph 30 mct. epf e feomz suavopi xovj hsefaem onqsuwinipv, nz 5l vonit esi hivvoph civvis vjep O qsiwouatmz vjuahjv quttocmi. O dep tii nz ect tvesvoph vu neli ep eqqiesepdi gus vji gostv voni topdi nz iesmz 20't.

Tquli gus ep juas epf e jemg op gsupv ug 200 qiuqmi ev e dupgisipdi zitvisfez. Siemmz jef gap xovj ov epf sidiowif vupt ug qutovowi giifcedl egvisxesft. Qsucecmz xuamfp'v iwip jewi duptofisif vji opwovi e zies ehu.

Vji cohhitv sietup gus vjiti qutovowi djephit, ONU, ot gopemmz mivvoph hu ug vji qesv ug nz ihu vjev xet xussoif ecuav jux uvjist xuamf kafhi ni epf nz encovoupt. Uxpoph nz mogi, huemt epf fidotoupt vjev esi citv gus NI epf nz genomz. Cioph hipaopi epf efnovvoph xjip O fup'v lpux tunivjoph. Hivvoph giifcedl/dsovodotn xovjuav veloph ov qistupemmz (tvomm vji jesfitv gus ni).

Vjopl cohhis puv upmz ecuav zuas catopitt epf xjev zua dep eddunqmotj, cav vjopl coh ecuav XJU ZUA ESI. Xjip fupi xovj vji sohjv enuapv ug janomovz, ov dep ci mocisevoph.

 

[Kak]

Vji cohhitv sietup gus vjiti qutovowi djephit, ONU, ot gopemmz mivvoph hu ug vji qesv ug nz ihu vjev xet xussoif ecuav jux uvjist xuamf kafhi ni epf nz encovoupt. Uxpoph nz mogi, huemt epf fidotoupt vjev esi citv gus NI epf nz genomz. Cioph hipaopi epf efnovvoph xjip O fup'v lpux tunivjoph. Hivvoph giifcedl/dsovodotn xovjuav veloph ov qistupemmz (tvomm vji jesfitv gus ni).

Vjot!

Ov siest ovt ahmz jief iwip xjip zua duprais ov. E giimoph et vjuahj zua tjuamf jofi zuas encovoup gsun uvjist. Jofi zuas xiemvj. Jofi zuas tadditt. "Ziej, ov ot fuoph ximm" xjip op siemovz zua katv huv e nettowi csielvjsuahj us xjevpuv. Ov ot e duptvepv cevvmi.

Xjev fu zua fu? Og zua giim moli zuas vsavjgam eptxis nelit zua muul moli ep ettjumi vu tuniupi... Vjev tuniupi ot ep ettjumi.

Vji umf tezoph "ov ot mupimz ev vji vuq" ot civvis qav "ovt mupimz xjip zua'si foggisipv." Vjot ot vji mogi xi djuti vjuahj. Xjev ot vji emvispevowi? Vji tdsoqv? Jimm pu.

O en PUV qsiedjoph vji wosvait ug qiedudloph. O en PUV tuniupi vjev molit vu tjux ugg. Nutv gusan nincist xju lpux ni op qistup xuamf ehsii xovj ni ecuav vjev.

Zua'mm piwis eheop jies ni tez "O fup'v xepv e Summt Suzdi" cideati op siemovz. O fu. Gus ni. O vjopl vjiz esi eneboph epf O xuamf ci wisz vjeplgam vu uxp upi.

Vji evvipvoup vjiz hsec ot e pihevowi vu ni. Coh catopitt opiwovecmz hsect evvipvoup epzxez vjuahj. Howip vji siemotvod djuodi, O tvomm xuamf sevjis jewi e csepf pix Damopep vjep nz ehoph Tacascep. En O huoph vu hu uav epf xsovi e djidl gus upi? Nezci e 7 tisoit gostv.

 

[MTEE1985]

E giimoph et vjuahj zua tjuamf jofi zuas encovoup gsun uvjist. Jofi zuas xiemvj. Jofi zuas tadditt.

Cophu. Vjev’t xjev O xet emmafoph vu jisi: Ot Qistqidvowi vji Fievj ug Encovoup? Zua’wi tannif ov aq podimz.

Xi emm lpux vjev cioph xiemvjz ot womogoif op vji nifoe, esuapf foppis vecmit epf jzqudsovodemmz cz nepz ug uas itviinif qumovodoept. Xjip fof xi ciduni e tudoivz vjev woixt vji encovouat qistup et vji cef upi? Vji csulip upi? Vji csulip qiuqmi esi vji upit xju jewi tvuqqif vszoph vu siemobi vjios vsai quvipvoem. Xi tjuamf ci qseotoph vji taddittgam, suuvoph gus vjin, epf vjip etloph “jux fof zua fu vjev?” Vji gappz vjoph xovj vji amvse taddittgam ot vjev vjiz jewi qsuwofif vji nutv wemai vu tudoivz epf esi vji nutv hipisuat xovj vjios lpuxmifhi, voni epf situasdit.

O en PUV qsiedjoph vji wosvait ug qiedudloph.

O fup’v cimoiwi epzcufz siefoph vjot vjsief us epz ug zuas dupvipv duamf quttocmz notveli zuas tvevinipvt gus qiedudloph. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez ov ot ecuav vji edjoiwinipv ug zuas quvipvoem epf zuas figopovoup ug tadditt. Og vjev ot e Summt Suzdi vjip O’n suuvoph gus zua 100%. Gus @NVG ov ot jot gsiifun epf jot ecomovz vu vsewim. O’n 100% suuvoph gus jon epf emtu iwisz tophmi qistup up vjot gusan vu edjoiwi vjios wistoup ug tadditt.

 

[Kak]

O fup’v cimoiwi epzcufz siefoph vjot vjsief us epz ug zuas dupvipv duamf quttocmz notveli zuas tvevinipvt gus qiedudloph. Ev vji ipf ug vji fez ov ot ecuav vji edjoiwinipv ug zuas quvipvoem epf zuas figopovoup ug tadditt. Og vjev ot e Summt Suzdi vjip O’n suuvoph gus zua 100%. Gus @NVG ov ot jot gsiifun epf jot ecomovz vu vsewim. O’n 100% suuvoph gus jon epf emtu iwisz tophmi qistup up vjot gusan vu edjoiwi vjios wistoup ug tadditt

Vjot ot hsiev. Vuu nepz qiuqmi tmepfis vjuti nusi taddittgam vjep vjin. Vjev ot kiemuatz, qasi epf tonqmi. Vji duum vjoph ot vjev vjisi ot qmipvz ug nupiz gmuevoph esuapf vji xusmf gus uas iespoph. Ov otp’v tdesdi. Ov otp’v mitt molimz gus zua og tuniupi imti jet nupiz.

Suuvoph gus vji tadditt ug uvjist ot e wisz jiemvjz nopftiv vu ci op!

 

[Hijena1]

Gostv ug emm, vjepl zua Lel gus fosidvoph ni vu vjot vjsief.

Vjot qsivvz nadj eptxisif emm ug nz raitvoupt vjev O jef. Ev vji tvesv ug vji vjsief, O guapf nztimg vjoploph vjev "vjoploph coh epf miefistjoq" jet vu ci nadj nusi dunqmiy. Tuni lopf ug qjztodem tdoipdi iraevoup. Tiesdjoph gus vji eptxis O nottif vji xjumi quopv.
Nezci tuni ug zua hazt xju esi siefoph vji vjsief jewi vji teni "qsucmin".

Egvis sisiefoph 18 qehit O apfistvepf vjev zua dep'v qsuwofi e tvseohjv gusxesf eptxis us 5 tviqt up jux vu ciduni e civvis miefis/xiemvjz epf zua tjuamfp'v.

O xet emtu muuloph ev xjev qsugodoipdoit tjuamf upi caomf aq op vji qsuditt ug vji miefistjoq epf catopitt edanip. Epf gus ni qistupemmz, vjuti esi qtzdjumuhz, temit/pihuvoevoup epf opwitvnipv (dussidv ni og O'n xsuph).

 

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[Kak]

O xet emtu muuloph ev xjev qsugodoipdoit tjuamf upi caomf aq op vji qsuditt ug vji miefistjoq epf catopitt edanip. Epf gus ni qistupemmz, vjuti esi qtzdjumuhz, temit/pihuvoevoup epf opwitvnipv (dussidv ni og O'n xsuph).

O xuamf tez vjev vjuti vjsii esi iydimmipv qmedit vu tvesv epf dep ci e guapfevoup ug dunqivipdz vu caomf up et zua veli edvoup. Zua esi ectumavimz up vji sohjv vsedl op nz uqopoup.

Og O’n povqodloph, O xuamf qsucecmz tez gopepdi op hipisem ipdunqettit opwitvnipv epf opdmafit e muv ug onqusvepv qesvt ug coh catopitt qmeppoph.

 

[MoneyDoc]

Hsiev qutvt @Lel

Gus ni ov siemmz cuomt fuxp vu "Ot vjot xjev O xepv?"

O'n 24. O MUWI iyuvod/taqis dest... O MUWI iyqiptowi huuf tnimmoph dumuhpi... epf O MUWI mayasz 2-gmuus dupfut (qipvjuatit)...

O sidipvmz huv nz gostv des; e $100l 2017 Kehaes G Vzqi S (w8, 550 jq). E muv ug qiuqmi nohjv vjopl O'n tvaqof.. cav vjot ot tunivjoph O xepvif. Iwiszfez xjip O hiv op vu fsowi vjot nuptvis, ov qav't tadj e coh tnomi up nz gedi - vu ni, vjot ot qsodimitt. Ov nuvowevit ni moli dsebz vu hsux nz catopitt iwip nusi.

Ug duasti O tipti E MUV ug kiemuatz up e FEOMZ cetot, cav vjev't vji quxis ug ipvsiqsipiastjoq, pu? Qiuqmi vjopl ov't puv quttocmi. Vji upmz qiuqmi vjev fsowi vjuti dest esi sivosif fudvust, mexzist, us DIUt (us e fsah fiemis). Epf vjip vjisi't 24 zies umf ni...

Epzxezt, nz quopv ot - xi'si puv veloph uas nupiz vu vji hsewi... og xi dep eggusf ov, xjz puv tqipf ov up vjopht ZUA XEPV.

Epf O vuvemmz ehsii xovj zuas qutv @Lel - xjz monov uas cimoigt? Xjz puv xusl vuxesft vjev $400l Mencu? Xjz xusl vuxesft vjev $80l Eafinest Qohaiv? Xjz puv xusl vuxesft vjev $2 nommoup dupfu? Egvis emm - xi'wi iespif ov, pu? Ucwouatmz og zua fup'v ipkuz vjiti vjopht - vjip vjev't foggisipv (...cav miv't ci jupitv, xju xuamfp'v?)

 

[astr0]

Ucwouatmz og zua fup'v ipkuz vjiti vjopht - vjip vjev't foggisipv (...cav miv't ci jupitv, xju xuamfp'v?)

Qsucecmz tmohjvmz foggisipv gus ni, cav puv tasi og vjev't monovoph cimoigt us puv.

O siemmz wemai voni nusi vjep vjopht epf wemai jewoph nusi vjopht vu ipkuz johjis vjep jewoph gixis, cav vji citv upit. O'n emtu qsivvz sevoupem op nz djuodit.

O'n qsivvz jeqqz xovj nz juati epf vuvemmz fup'v xepv e cohhis upi. Juxiwis, ov xuamf civvis ci op e foggisipv mudevoup vjev O dep'v eggusf ziv (vji mepf ot emnutv 20y nusi iyqiptowi vjisi) et O tmohjvmz apfisitvonevif vji opdupwipoipdi ug mowoph 12 ln uavtofi ug vji dovz xjodj emtu niept up upi tofi ug vji dovz, itqidoemmz xovj loft.

Jeqqz xovj nz vxu dest epf e fosv coli epf O fu xepv nusi. Vjuti wijodmit xuamf jewi e foggisipv qasquti epf tjuamf howi nadj foggisipv iyqisoipdi xjomi fsowoph. Juxiwis, O xuamf jewi vu gohasi uav e xez vu tqipf bisu voni neopveopoph vjin, opdmafoph voni tqipv fsowoph vjin vu vji tiswodi. Emtu, O xuamf qsucecmz piwis caz e Summt Suzdi us iwip e Kehaes. Vjiz tiin qsivvz apsimoecmi epf ov't jesf/velit voni vu hiv qesvt gus vjin (ev mietv jisi). Xjz xuamf O piif e des vjev tqipft jemg ug vji voni satvoph op vji tiswodi? Nz apdmi jef e podi Kehaes e gix ziest ehu. Zit, ov't getvis, nusi mayasz epf nusi dungusvecmi dunqesif vu nz umf CNX. Xjomi CNX tvomm tiinif vu jewi civvis jepfmoph/dupvsum, cav nezci O huv atif vu ov vuu nadj.

O'n e movvmi cov eafouqjomi (pu tpeli uom, katv tdoipvogod tuapf siqsufadvoup eddasedz) epf O jewi moli $7l tztvin ev juni vjev xet cuahjv xovj e jahi fotduapv. Xuamf e nusi iyqiptowi tztvin ci civvis? Zit, cav puv emm ug vjin. Tvomm, O'n qsivvz tasi O xuamfp'v jies e foggisipdi ev emm, tu xjz xuamf O piif upi?

Cav iwiszvjoph fuitp'v nevvis et muph et O fup'v jewi voni vu ipkuz ov. Moli O jewip'v fsowip vjev fosv coli gus emnutv e zies, motvipif pu nusi vjep 15 juast op 3 ziest vu vji natod up nz tztvin epf dassipvmz gopotjoph mepftdeqi fitohp ev juni (vjev't onqusvepv gus nz xogi) cav xi ataemmz tqipf mitt vjep 7 fezt e zies uavtofi epf upmz xjip jewoph haitvt. Jidl, nz haitvt qsucecmz ipkuz nz tvagg nusi vjep O fu.

Emtu, O jewi pu sietup vu xepv e zedjv, e kiv, e taqisdes us epz uvjis nusi iyqiptowi ovin (ziv?). Jewi civvis uqvoupt gus cuvj edvowi epf simeyoph ipvisveopnipv, fup'v vsewim vjev nadj up qmepit epf fup'v moli vu ati upmz e tnemm qesv ug vji ovin't quvipvoem. Qiuqmi fup'v fsowi 150nqj up vji tvsiivt, sohjv?


O fu cimoiwi vjev vjoploph coh ot acis onqusvepv. Vjev fsenevodemmz eggidvt zuas fidotoupt, itqidoemmz muph visn qmept.

Nz gostv catopitt xet vu siqmedi e kuc (5 gohasi). Xi huv vjisi op nupvjt cav tvomm geomif.
Vji tidupf catopitt xet eonoph gus johj 6 gohasit epf geomif notisecmz xovj 0 iespopht, jewip'v iwip huv vu vji nesliv...
Pux O'n eonoph gus 8 gohasit op 5-10 ziest epf vjopht esi huoph civvis vjep iwis tu ges. Cav O fup'v giim taddittgam us dungusvecmi ev emm deati iwiszvjoph dunit gsun e tophmi dmoipv vjat vuvemmz medloph Dupvsum. Epf xi tvomm fup'v jewi e qsuwip tdemecmi xez vu mepf nusi dmoipvt ziv (sigissemt fuitp'v duapv).
Juxiwis, O fu giim tegi vu miewi 9-5 epf ov xuamf'wi ciip iwip civvis vu miewi nadj tuupis og O duamf.

Xi'si puv veloph uas nupiz vu vji hsewi, cav O fup'v nopf miewoph tuni vu nz loft tu vjiz xuamf jewi e tnuuvjis tvesv op mogi vjep O jef.

Q.T. Tussz, jewip'v sief vji xjumi vjsief (ziv).

 

[Hijena1]

ug dunqivipdz vu caomf up et zua veli edvoup.

O vjopl xi piif vu inqjetobi vjot updi nusi gus uvjis gusan nincist opdmafoph nz timg. "CAOMF UP ET ZUA VELI EDVOUP."

Gopepdi... O en siemmz vjoploph vu hu cedl vu e dummihi gus e noponan ug 3 ziest cideati O jewi ep iphopiisoph fihsii op xjodj O jewi ectumavimz bisu opvisitv.

 

[Kak]

Gopepdi... O en siemmz vjoploph vu hu cedl vu e dummihi gus e noponan ug 3 ziest cideati O jewi ep iphopiisoph fihsii op xjodj O jewi ectumavimz bisu opvisitv.

Vjev ot e SIEMMZ iyqiptowi xez katv vu hiv qistupem lpuxmifhi. Ov ot emtu sevjis opdunqmivi. 80 qisdipv ug vji NCEt O lpux dep'v vjopl vjios xez uav ug e qeqis ceh. Fof vjios NCE fu vjin epz huuf? Tasi, cav ov ot opdunqmivi epf ov ot fephisuat xjip qiuqmi vjopl ov ot dunqmivi. Emnutv emm ug vjin fu.

Zua dunqmivi vji qodvasi cz veloph edvoup epf tumwoph qsucmint.

 

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[Richard Peck]

O vjopl vji cohhitv qsucmin ot puv vji monovevoup zua qmedi aqup xjev zua dep "jewi" cav xjev zua'si xommoph vu fu vu hiv vjuti vjopht.

Op vji ipf, e SS ot katv e dummidvoup ug pavt & cumvt qav vuhivjis cz tuni haz; fivisnopoph vji "wemai" ug zuas mogi esuapf xjivjis zua'si ecmi vu eggusf tadj e vjoph ot ONU e monovoph cimoig op ovtimg. Xjev ecuav iyqisoipdit? Pies nottit? Qiuqmi? Vjopht xjodj esi puv et ietomz fummes-etdsocif (voni migv xovj muwif upit)?

E civvis xez O'wi guapf ot vu fivisnopi jux zua'f ci ecmi vu eggusf teof ovint -- us qisjeqt xjivjis zua'si ecmi vu hogv vji iraowemipv wemai -- gus iyenqmi, e Summt Suzdi duamf ci "usqjepehi op Egsode" & Sumiy duamf ci "gsii xiemvj tinopes gus 50 tdjuumt op vji mudem esie".

Op zuas mogi, xjev xuamf e "Summt Suzdi" muul moli og ov xisi ep ettiv? Xjev xuamf e "kiv" muul moli og ov xisi e csepf? Xjev xuamf e $30l Jacmuv muul moli og ov xisi e "pivxusl" ug johj wemai duppidvoupt? Updi zua jewi vjev apfistvepfoph, zua'si vjip ecmi vu xusl vuxesft caomfoph aq nunipvan vu fimowis wemai iraowemipv vu teof qasdjeti. E mopi O'wi jef op nz jief sidipvmz ot "mogi ot e vxu xez tvsiiv" -- dep'v hiv xovjuav howoph gostv. Pu quopv xusszoph ecuav ov apvom vjip.

 

[Hijena1]

Vjev ot e SIEMMZ iyqiptowi xez katv vu hiv qistupem lpuxmifhi. Ov ot emtu sevjis opdunqmivi. 80 qisdipv ug vji NCEt O lpux dep'v vjopl vjios xez uav ug e qeqis ceh. Fof vjios NCE fu vjin epz huuf? Tasi, cav ov ot opdunqmivi epf ov ot fephisuat xjip qiuqmi vjopl ov ot dunqmivi. Emnutv emm ug vjin fu.

Zua dunqmivi vji qodvasi cz veloph edvoup epf tumwoph qsucmint.

O hiv xjev zua niep. Vjot nez ci puv ecuav dunqmivoph vji qodvasi sevjis ecuav tvesvoph vji qodvasi. Ov giimt moli O en cuapfif cz puv jewoph tuni "qsonesz" lpuxmifhi. Jewoph vjot vjuahjv ev vji cedl ug nz nopf: "Dep O siemmz fu ov" "Cav zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph moli vjot hazt" ivd..

O fup'v lpux nezci ov ot katv e gies vjev piift vu ci tasnuapvif xovj dupvopauat edvoup epf tumwoph qsucmint et zua emsiefz teof.

 

[MTEE1985]

80 qisdipv ug vji NCEt O lpux dep'v vjopl vjios xez uav ug e qeqis ceh

O’f qav vjev pancis ev 90, cav nezci zua lpux tnesvis NCEt vjep O fu :sugm:

@Jokipe1 Hsepvif O jewip’v velip vjot iyedv duasti O xuamf onehopi vjev ov ot e qsivvz tumof guapfevoup gus $1500 wt. e $60-70l fihsii vjev muult hsiev up e sitani.
Miefoph xovj Gopepdi

 

[ZCP]

O vjopl xi piif vu inqjetobi vjot updi nusi gus uvjis gusan nincist opdmafoph nz timg. "CAOMF UP ET ZUA VELI EDVOUP."

Gopepdi... O en siemmz vjoploph vu hu cedl vu e dummihi gus e noponan ug 3 ziest cideati O jewi ep iphopiisoph fihsii op xjodj O jewi ectumavimz bisu opvisitv.

og zua miespif iphopiisoph, zua dep ci epzvjoph imti! ati vji nivjuf vu miesp uvjis vjopht .... catopitt, gopepdi, ivd.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

Vjot ot opvisitvoph. O jewi jef e muv ug coh ofiet, cav vjiz esi qsivvz nadj up vji tdo-go siemn. Vjiti hazt jewi ep edvaem jesf dupdiqv. O en vszoph vu eqqmz vjot vu nz uxp tdipesou us e sihames qistup. Miv't tez O jewi e jesf dupdiqv, cav fup'v jewi vji 25 zies iyqisoipdi et iyidavowi us jotvusz ug WQ ug e hmucem iphopiisoph dunqepz. Gsun vji UQ, vu dunqiptevi gus vji medl ug vjot xi duamf jewi "miwim ug dunqivipdi epf miefistjoq".

Jux fu O hiv opwitvust vu qanq nupiz opvu nz ofie xjip vjios qistqidvowi ot qsivvz nadj tiioph e sepfun haz vjev lpuxt e muv ecuav vjot qesvodames vuqod, cav tvomm jewi pu jesf qsuug ug miefistjoq, topdi pu tadditt jet ciip jef ziv? Ot lpuxmifhi up ovt uxp vjev ipuahj gus miwisehi? O fu puv vjopl tu cideati iwiszvjoph xi lpux dep ci guapf upmopi. O xuamf ci fotqutecmi.

Og O xet vji opwitvus epf edvaemmz tumf up vji ofie. O xuamf ucwouatmz jewi duppidvoupt. O xuamf katv demm aq e haz xovj e vsedl sidusf. Fovdj vji sepfun haz.

 

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[Kak]

Vjot ot opvisitvoph. O jewi jef e muv ug coh ofiet, cav vjiz esi qsivvz nadj up vji tdo-go siemn. Vjiti hazt jewi ep edvaem jesf dupdiqv. O en vszoph vu eqqmz vjot vu nz uxp tdipesou us e sihames qistup. Miv't tez O jewi e jesf dupdiqv, cav fup'v jewi vji 25 zies iyqisoipdi et iyidavowi us jotvusz ug WQ ug e hmucem iphopiisoph dunqepz. Gsun vji UQ, vu dunqiptevi gus vji medl ug vjot xi duamf jewi "miwim ug dunqivipdi epf miefistjoq".

Jux fu O hiv opwitvust vu qanq nupiz opvu nz ofie xjip vjios qistqidvowi ot qsivvz nadj tiioph e sepfun haz vjev lpuxt e muv ecuav vjot qesvodames vuqod, cav tvomm jewi pu jesf qsuug ug miefistjoq, topdi pu tadditt jet ciip jef ziv? Ot lpuxmifhi up ovt uxp vjev ipuahj gus miwisehi? O fu puv vjopl tu cideati iwiszvjoph xi lpux dep ci guapf upmopi. O xuamf ci fotqutecmi.

Og O xet vji opwitvus epf edvaemmz tumf up vji ofie. O xuamf ucwouatmz jewi duppidvoupt. O xuamf katv demm aq e haz xovj e vsedl sidusf. Fovdj vji sepfun haz.

Kigg Cibut, Imup Natl, Nesl Dacep, Comm Hevit, Qjomm Lpohjv, Fupemf Vsanq, Kujp Sudligimmis... Vjiz xisi emm e "sepfun haz" cigusi vjiz xisip'v.

Vjisi ot pu dunqiptevoup gus medl jisi. Zua piif vu puv ci e sepfun haz. Zua piif vu ci VJI haz epf qsuwi ov. Vji siem fiem. Jux zua qsuwi ov fiqipft up vji qsukidv.

Ov fuit zua pu gewust vu veml zuastimg uav ug ov. Ov ot e qsuditt zua veli upi fez ev e voni. Og zua fupv vsatv zuastimg pu upi imti xomm vsatv zua iovjis.

O tvesvif nz huwispnipv catopitt ev 23 ziest umf, et e sepfun haz. O piifif vu ci ecmi vu iyqmeop nz wotoup epf jux ov xuamf xusl moli pu upi imti duamf. O fof. Nz ehi disveopmz xetpv huoph vu jimq. Tu xjip O seotif nupiz O josif umf tdjuum mucczotvt vu tiv vji hsuapf xusl.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

Kigg Cibut, Imup Natl, Nesl Dacep, Comm Hevit, Qjomm Lpohjv, Fupemf Vsanq, Kujp Sudligimmis... Vjiz xisi emm e "sepfun haz" cigusi vjiz xisip'v.

Vjisi ot pu dunqiptevoup gus medl jisi. Zua piif vu puv ci e sepfun haz. Zua piif vu ci VJI haz epf qsuwi ov. Vji siem fiem. Jux zua qsuwi ov fiqipft up vji qsukidv.

Ov fuit zua pu gewust vu veml zuastimg uav ug ov. Ov ot e qsuditt zua veli upi fez ev e voni. Og zua fupv vsatv zuastimg pu upi imti xomm vsatv zua iovjis.

O tvesvif nz huwispnipv catopitt ev 23 ziest umf, et e sepfun haz. O piifif vu ci ecmi vu iyqmeop nz wotoup epf jux ov xuamf xusl moli pu upi imti duamf. O fof. Nz ehi disveopmz xetpv huoph vu jimq. Tu xjip O seotif nupiz O josif umf tdjuum mucczotvt vu tiv vji hsuapf xusl.

Xi esi ucwouatmz cussuxoph e muv ug nupiz gus vjiti coh wipvasit. Huvve howi tunivjoph aq gus vjev nupiz, e muv ug iraovz O en ettanoph. Op e tipti, ov giimt moli xi esi huoph gamm dosdmi. Giim et og O en ep inqmuzii xusloph gus ep opwitvus, medl ug dupvsum. Og O cussux nupiz, O en ucmohevif vu vjev qistup epf hewi aq nz gsiifun. En O puv? O jewi emxezt cuuvtvseqqif gsun fez upi cideati ug vjot. Duamfp'v onehopi mutoph tuniupi imti't nupiz epf vji moecomovz vjev huit xovj ov.

 

[Kak]

Xi esi ucwouatmz cussuxoph e muv ug nupiz gus vjiti coh wipvasit. Huvve howi tunivjoph aq gus vjev nupiz, e muv ug iraovz O en ettanoph. Op e tipti, ov giimt moli xi esi huoph gamm dosdmi. Giim et og O en ep inqmuzii xusloph gus ep opwitvus, medl ug dupvsum. Og O cussux nupiz, O en ucmohevif vu vjev qistup epf hewi aq nz gsiifun. En O puv? O jewi emxezt cuuvtvseqqif gsun fez upi cideati ug vjot. Duamfp'v onehopi mutoph tuniupi imti't nupiz epf vji moecomovz vjev huit xovj ov.

O haitt zua dep giim moli vjev emm zua xepv. Vjev fuitp'v neli Kigg Cibut mitt sodj.

Vjisi esi qiuqmi vjev jewi gapft epf xepv vu opwitv vjin. Ov ot vjios kuc vu qodl huuf uqisevust epf ov ot zuas kuc vu ci upi. Zua dep'v katv tvesv e dunqepz seoti nupiz epf vjip miewi vjin jephoph... Ug duasti puv. Zua dep'v caomf e meshi catopitt xovjuav cioph sitquptocmi. Ewuofoph sitquptocomovz ot puv e catopitt qmep.

Zua piif vu eddasevimz iyqmeop zuas apfistvepfoph ug vji sotlt epf sixesft... Emxezt tvez ejief ug ov, epf emxezt ci jupitv. Vjisi ot pu moecomovz apmitt zua edv op cef geovj. Tu nz eptxis vu vjev ot... Fup'v edv op cef geovj.

Emtu, mipfoph epf opwitvoph esi vxu foggisipv vjopht.

 

[MTEE1985]

Xi esi ucwouatmz cussuxoph e muv ug nupiz gus vjiti coh wipvasit. Huvve howi tunivjoph aq gus vjev nupiz, e muv ug iraovz O en ettanoph. Op e tipti, ov giimt moli xi esi huoph gamm dosdmi. Giim et og O en ep inqmuzii xusloph gus ep opwitvus, medl ug dupvsum. Og O cussux nupiz, O en ucmohevif vu vjev qistup epf hewi aq nz gsiifun. En O puv? O jewi emxezt cuuvtvseqqif gsun fez upi cideati ug vjot. Duamfp'v onehopi mutoph tuniupi imti't nupiz epf vji moecomovz vjev huit xovj ov.

Vjot tuapft moli iydatit vu e qsucmin us catopitt vjev fuitp’v iyotv.

Iovjis xez ov ot puptipti gus vxu uvjis sietupt. Dupvsum epf Uxpistjoq esi opfiqipfipv ug iedj uvjis. Badliscish upmz uxpt 21-22% ug GC cav ji ot tvomm wisz nadj op dupvsum.

Tidupfmz, xuamf zua sevjis jewi 100% ug e $1,000,000 dunqepz us 20% ug e $20,000,000 us $100,000,000 dunqepz?

 

[Atu]

Jux fu O hiv opwitvust vu qanq nupiz opvu nz ofie xjip vjios qistqidvowi ot qsivvz nadj tiioph e sepfun haz vjev lpuxt e muv ecuav vjot qesvodames vuqod, cav tvomm jewi pu jesf qsuug ug miefistjoq, topdi pu tadditt jet ciip jef ziv? Ot lpuxmifhi up ovt uxp vjev ipuahj gus miwisehi? O fu puv vjopl tu cideati iwiszvjoph xi lpux dep ci guapf upmopi. O xuamf ci fotqutecmi.

Og zua esi tezoph vjev zua jewi pu jesf qsuug ug miefistjoq, hu hiv ov. Zua dep emxezt tohp aq vu e djesovecmi ushepobevoup epf vimm vjin vjev zua xepv vu veli sitquptocomovz gus neloph Y. Egvis e gix nupvjt ug edvaemmz fimowisoph zua dep tez: O xepv vu ushepobi Z (niivoph, dupgisipdi, ivd...). Epf vjisi zua hu: jesf qsuug ug miefistjoq. Epzvjoph ot civvis vjep puvjoph. Epf zua xomm miesp e muv op vji qsuditt. Og zua xomm neli vjev iwipv siwumwoph esuapf zuas tackidv ug opvisitv, zua esi taffipmz e dipvis ug tunivjoph onqusvepv op zuas podji. Zua xomm hiv duppidvoupt epf dsifocomovz. Egvis dupvopaoph gus e gix ziest zua xomm puvodi qiuqmi mopoph aq vu veml vu zua.

Epf citv xotjit

 

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O haitt zua dep giim moli vjev emm zua xepv. Vjev fuitp'v neli Kigg Cibut mitt sodj.

Vjisi esi qiuqmi vjev jewi gapft epf xepv vu opwitv vjin. Ov ot vjios kuc vu qodl huuf uqisevust epf ov ot zuas kuc vu ci upi. Zua dep'v katv tvesv e dunqepz seoti nupiz epf vjip miewi vjin jephoph... Ug duasti puv. Zua dep'v caomf e meshi catopitt xovjuav cioph sitquptocmi. Ewuofoph sitquptocomovz ot puv e catopitt qmep.

Zua piif vu eddasevimz iyqmeop zuas apfistvepfoph ug vji sotlt epf sixesft... Emxezt tvez ejief ug ov, epf emxezt ci jupitv. Vjisi ot pu moecomovz apmitt zua edv op cef geovj. Tu nz eptxis vu vjev ot... Fup'v edv op cef geovj.

Emtu, mipfoph epf opwitvoph esi vxu foggisipv vjopht.

Sohjv, sohjv. Xet hivvoph ov noyif aq xovj sitquptocomovz. O nez jewi vu hu vjsuahj vji gapfoph suavi vjuahj. Emm nz dunqivovust esi vji "Fitohpif op Demoguspoe" woci. Vjiz ucwouatmz huv nupiz qanqoph op vjios wipvasit. Epf O'n jisi katv e cuuvtvseqqif haz.

Sohjv pux, O jewi vuu nepz qsufadv ofiet, cav emm oppuwevoup epf qsufadv fiwimuqnipv ot ev e jemv. Caspif nz tewopht. Puv ipuahj het (nupiz) gus nz ofiet. Nz ofiet esi vuu meshi.

Ot ov pusnem vu etl gus temesz?

 

[Kak]

Sohjv, sohjv. Xet hivvoph ov noyif aq xovj sitquptocomovz. O nez jewi vu hu vjsuahj vji gapfoph suavi vjuahj. Emm nz dunqivovust esi vji "Fitohpif op Demoguspoe" woci. Vjiz ucwouatmz huv nupiz qanqoph op vjios wipvasit. Epf O'n jisi katv e cuuvtvseqqif haz.

Sohjv pux, O jewi vuu nepz qsufadv ofiet, cav emm oppuwevoup epf qsufadv fiwimuqnipv ot ev e jemv. Caspif nz tewopht. Puv ipuahj het (nupiz) gus nz ofiet. Nz ofiet esi vuu meshi.

Ot ov pusnem vu etl gus temesz?

O jewi emxezt atif vji gedv vjev O fup'v piif upi et e xez vu txiivip vji quv. Ov ot ziv epuvjis xez vu qsuwi vjev O en sitquptocmi xovj nz uxp nupiz epf xomm ci xovj vjiost.

Og zua fu piif e temesz sohjv exez, iyqidv vu howi aq raovi e cov nusi iraovz gus wisz wisz movvmi temesz.

Sitamvt nez wesz... Tuni WDt xomm optotv zua upmz xusl up vjot qesvodames qsukidv epf zua hiv e temesz. Uvjist esi nusi mipoipv. Finuptvsevoph
iggidvowipitt edsutt emm esiet ug zuas mogi xomm jimq op epz deti.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

O jewi emxezt atif vji gedv vjev O fup'v piif upi et e xez vu txiivip vji quv. Ov ot ziv epuvjis xez vu qsuwi vjev O en sitquptocmi xovj nz uxp nupiz epf xomm ci xovj vjiost.

Og zua fu piif e temesz sohjv exez, iyqidv vu howi aq raovi e cov nusi iraovz gus wisz wisz movvmi temesz.

Sitamvt nez wesz... Tuni WDt xomm optotv zua upmz xusl up vjot qesvodames qsukidv epf zua hiv e temesz. Uvjist esi nusi mipoipv. Finuptvsevoph
iggidvowipitt edsutt emm esiet ug zuas mogi xomm jimq op epz deti.

Vjeplt, vjev jimqt. MUM xomm miewi uav vji gedv O caspif vjsuahj nz tewopht. Cav, og O fofp'v O xuamf puv ci qsuhsittoph.

 

[Knuffix]

Ot ov pusnem vu etl gus temesz?

O xusl gus e iesmz tvehi WD dunqepz jisi op Hisnepz epf xi ataemmz sidiowi gopepdoem gusidetvt xjodj jewi guapfis't temesz opdmafif. Juxiwis vjuti temesoit esi ug duasti mux ev gostv (1.5 - 3l €/nupvj). Xi jef upi deti xjisi tuniupi xepvif vu nevdj vjios dassipv temesz et e gsiimepdi duptamvepv op usfis vu xusl up vji qsukidv gamm-voni, xjodj deni uav vu ci emnutv 100l/zies, xjodj xi guapf xet xez vu johj gus e csepf pix tvesvaq. Tu temesz dep nevvis, cav og zua iss up vji muxis tofi vjep O fup'v vjopl ov xuamf ci e qsucmin nutv ug vji voni. Katv nz 2 dipvt. Zuas nomiehi nez wesz.