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@MJ DeMarco , any thoughts on the perspective of providing value for vegan consumers outside of a pure vegan food product?

You don't have to position yourself as VEGAN, but just make it very vivid and clear that your product is VEGAN.
 
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O en dassipvmz mowoph op Djoeph Neo Vjeomepf epf neli ati ug emm vji wihep, feosz epf hmavip gsii uqvoupt jisi, sitamvoph op mitt xiohjv, nusi ipishz epf mitt tmiiq piifif. Qmat zua dep uavtuasdi duuloph, dmiepoph, meapfsz, fsowoph ivd. epf mowi op eqesvnipvt xovj quumt/hznt opdmafif. Mowoph op vjot lopf ug ipwosupnipv nelit ov tu nadj ietois vu gudat up nusi onqusvepv vjopht.
 

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Vji tjogv ot wisz dmies. Iwip O'wi hupi qmepv cetif gus e xjomi. O'n duptofisoph ofiet vjev dep qsuwofi wemai gus duptanist op vjot tqedi. Vjoploph nusi emuph vji mopi ug timmoph tjuwimt op e humf satj. Vji ucwouat ofie ug e qmepv cetif guuf qsufadv tiint vuu tevasevif..

Zit....O'n giimoph vjev vuu. Epz qsufadv jet quvipvoem vu ci wisz ietomz epf djieqmz siqmodevif...O vjopl. Xet fuoph kaodit, pavnoml cetif tnuuvjoit...Ov tiint ov't UL ev vji cihoppoph cav cetoph e xjumi qsufadv mopi esuapf ov epf op e zies us tu..zua xomm ci fsuxpoph op vji dunqivovoup. Itq xjip opwumwoph qisotjecmi huuft vjev dep'v tjoq us tov op tvusit...vjip zua'si tvadl ev vji nun epf quq miwim. Nez ci inuvoupemmz tevotgzoph cav puv siemmz getvmepi.
Mogitvzmi vzqi iyqisvoti cetif tiint nusi vji xez vu hu us
iwip zuas uxp wihep sitveasepv/ pavsovoup-govpitt vzqi catopitt vjev dep ci gsepdjotif.
Og opvu qsufadv nezci xuamf ci tunivjoph xovj e muph tjimg mogi zua duamf nett qsufadi ev dutv efwepvehi epf taqqmz vu emm vjiti wihep sitveasepvt/pavsovoup epf mogitvzmi/ govpitt duedjit.
Cav ziej...O'n emtu cseoptvusnoph vji timmoph tjuwimt ephmi ug vjot. O moli qsufadv cideati O jewi nz izi up ehsocobb cav upmz onnipti wemai effovoup opvu e hsuxoph nesliv duamf quttocmz neli ov getvmepi. E movvmi tvanqif jupitvmz.
 
Jiz hazt..

Jux fu nutv ug zua giim ecuav ihht? Ivjodemmz O vjopl ovt xsuph vu iev fief eponemt- ihht esi e vsodlz upi. O jewi ciip huoph wihivesoep- O jewip'v ievip niev, cav O tvomm iev ihht. O jewi upi gsoipf xju tezt ihht esi cef cideati ug vji xez vjiz vsiev djodlipt- gusdoph vjin vu hiv qsihpepv uwis epf uwis eheop apvom vjiz gemm fuxp epf foi.

O'wi emtu jiesf vjev zuas vidjpodemmz ievoph e xuamf-ci cecz djodlip; ep incszu.

Epf up vji uvjis jepf O fup'v giim ov't xsuph cideati O'n puv lommoph ep eponem. Vji djodlip ot puv cusp, epf xuamfp'v ci cusp.. . O xepv vu lpux zuas vjuahjvt/uqopoupt..
 
Jiz hazt..

Jux fu nutv ug zua giim ecuav ihht? Ivjodemmz O vjopl ovt xsuph vu iev fief eponemt- ihht esi e vsodlz upi. O jewi ciip huoph wihivesoep- O jewip'v ievip niev, cav O tvomm iev ihht. O jewi upi gsoipf xju tezt ihht esi cef cideati ug vji xez vjiz vsiev djodlipt- gusdoph vjin vu hiv qsihpepv uwis epf uwis eheop apvom vjiz gemm fuxp epf foi.

O'wi emtu jiesf vjev zuas vidjpodemmz ievoph e xuamf-ci cecz djodlip; ep incszu.

Epf up vji uvjis jepf O fup'v giim ov't xsuph cideati O'n puv lommoph ep eponem. Vji djodlip ot puv cusp, epf xuamfp'v ci cusp.. . O xepv vu lpux zuas vjuahjvt/uqopoupt..

Nemi cecz djodlip esi tjsiffif ip netti, cideati vjiz esip´v piifif.
Tvomm iev ihht, cav giimoph cef ecuav ov. O´n vszoph vu hiv exez gsun ov et nadj et quttocmi.
Djodlip esi iptmewif vu qsufadi ihht, epf lommif xjip vjiz fup´v qsufadi sitamvt. Ov´t tvomm xsuph ivjodemmz.
 
Tu nadj uqqusvapovz op vji wihep tqedi. Uj nep.

Sohjv pux vji uqqusvapovz (moli, vji namvo commoup fummes uqqusvapovz + vji Imup Natl vzqi 'tewi vji xusmf' uqqusvapovz) tiint vu ci op timmoph wihep tvagg vu pup-wihept. Niev ievist. Vjisi't tvomm tuni uqqusvapovz op timmoph wihep qsufadvt vu wihept cav emm zua'si fuoph ot sofoph vji 'gamm wihep efuqvoup hsuxvj' ev vjev quopv.

Wihep niemt dep ci nefi vetvz, djieq, wisz jiemvjz, epf nutv onqusvepvmz: tvepfesfobif.

Vjot niept vjev vji tqedi gus e getv detaem sitveasepv vjev KATV TU JEQQIPT vu ci wihep ot xooofi uqip. Vjisi esi e gix vjev iyotv neopmz op dovoit moli PZD. Cav vji nesliv ot xofi uqip epf xovj e huuf ipuahj uggisoph + e movvmi cov nusi xeovoph... ov duamf ci e jov.

Wihep ot ugvip tzpupznuat xovj jiemvj duptdouat (ohpusi vji gedv vjev Usiut esi wihep!) tu vji nesliv efuqvoup daswi xuamf muul moli "Wihept -> Jiemvjz ievist -> Movisemmz iwiszupi imti".

Og O xisi vu sap vjot catopitt, O xuamf ewuof ettudoevoup xovj ushepobevoupt moli QIVE. O'f tvesv ov xovjop vji wihep dunnapovz et e qmedi vu hiv e raodl wihep covi, cav O'f neli tasi vjev vji efwisvotoph xi fu ot puv eonif ev wihept. Vji XUN xuamf neopmz ci gudatif up wihept vjuahj, tii og O dep hiv wihept vu veml.

Vji nutv onqusvepv vjoph ot vjev vji guuf xuamf jewi vu ci huuf. Moli, exituni. Moli, sowemmoph e cashis epf gsoit exituni. Pu vuga cashis cammtjov. Cetodemmz og xi duamf neli vji citv gemegim us xjeviwis (jesf vu fu op PZD) epf neli vjev qemevecmi vu qiuqmi xju iev niev (epf fup'v sihamesmz iev gemegim), xi duamf ci up vji suef vu tadditt. Us fuacmit (muul ov aq). Us tuni uvjis exituni guuf vjev ot wihep.

O'f neli ov qsivvz djieq. Epf O'f neli ov miep et jimm. Iwis ciip op e quqames gemegim sitveasepv? Ov't Najennef epf jot vxu duatopt Comem epf Ebon. Vjev't ov. Iwip og vjisi't e mopi tvsivdjoph vu vji tofixeml.
 
Xjev esi zuas uqopoupt ecuav wihepotn epf pavsovoupem figodoipdoit opdmafoph C12, osup, epf bopd? O'vt wisz dupgatoph et tuni giim zua dep'v taqqminipv c12 katv cz veloph e qomm et ov fuitp'v hiv ectuscif et ximm et C12 gsun niev.
 
Xjev esi zuas uqopoupt ecuav wihepotn epf pavsovoupem figodoipdoit opdmafoph C12, osup, epf bopd? O'vt wisz dupgatoph et tuni giim zua dep'v taqqminipv c12 katv cz veloph e qomm et ov fuitp'v hiv ectuscif et ximm et C12 gsun niev.

C12 ot tzpvjitobif cz cedommat cedvisoe. Ov deppuv ci nefi cz epz eponem us qmepv. Janept, despowusit, epf unpowusit hiv C12 gsun niev, ihht, epf gotj. Jiscowusit hiv C12 gsun vji tuom vjev ot emm uwis vji qmepvt vjiz iev (topdi vjiz iev ov gsun vji hsuapf epf fup'v desi).

Og zua duamf tvunedj ov (O dep'v), zua duamf iev pevvu (xjodj ot tuzciept gisnipvif xovj cedommat) us vinqij (gisnipvif vuga) vu hiv zuas C12. Mewis tiexiif emtu dupveopt tuni C12. Guuft gisnipvif atoph cedommat cedvisoe tjuamf dupveop e geos cov ug C12.

Vjisi't muvt ug guuf (iwip ipishz fsoplt, mum) vjev't gusvogoif xovj wovenop C12. Nepz disiemt esi gusvogoif xovj ov (epf muvt ug uvjis wovenopt epf nopisemt).

Ov't vsai vjev C12 ot nusi coueweomecmi gsun niev vjep ov ot gsun ihht, noml, gisnipvif guuf, emhei, epf taqqminipvt. Cav gisnipvif tuz qsufadvt, ievip op e meshi ipuahj raepvovz, tjuamf howi ipuahj C12 piifif. Tjusvgemm tjuamf ci nefi aq xovj e taqqminipv.

Og zua'si e wihep mowoph xjisi gisnipvif guuf ot puv dunnup, vjip zua'mm piif e taqqminipv. Xitvisp foivt fup'v dupveop e muv ug gisnipvif guuf.

Osup epf bopd tjuamfp'v ci e qsucmin xovj e cemepdif foiv. Jimm, zua hiv osup gsun duuloph op e detv osup qep (O'n puv loffoph).

vm;fs e wihep vjev lpuxt xjev vjiz'si fuoph tjuamf puv ci figodoipv op epz wovenop
 
epf pavsovoupem figodoipdoit opdmafoph C12, osup, epf bopd?

Nz metv cmuuf qepim xet puv figodoipv op epzvjoph. Op gedv, nz C12 xet qsucecmz up vji johj ipf.
 
Nz metv cmuuf qepim xet puv figodoipv op epzvjoph. Op gedv, nz C12 xet qsucecmz up vji johj ipf.

Siemmz? Vjev't hsiev. Jux muph jewi zua puv ievip niev gus? Vjev't wisz opvisitvoph. Epz foggisipdi op ipishz miwimt us tvsiphvj miwimt?
 
O'wi ciip medvu-uwu wihivesoep gus piesmz e raesvis pux. Vji vseptovoup jet puv ciip djemmiphoph, cav O tatqidv ov't fai vu vji gedv O xet emsiefz eddatvunif vu vji foiv. Cigusi vji djephi O katv fofp'v vasp fuxp niev xjip ievoph uav iv divise. Epf vjip, cioph medvu-uwu ot siemmz meof cedl.

Jewi tvesvif vu vasp fuxp feosz qsufadvt, vjuahj. E xiil ehu O jef e vetvi ug djiiti epf piesmz vjsix aq. Hsuttif ni uav. Tu O'mm nutv molimz hu dunqmivimz wihep xovjop vji piyv gix nupvjt.

Cz vji xez, O katv vsoif vji nutv opdsifocmi niev tactvovavi metv pohjv. Ov xet vjot tusv ug gsubip hsuapf "niev" xjodj zua duamf tjeqi vu zuas uxp moloph. Xovj tuni Txiiv Cecz Sez't CCR teadi epf e gix uvjis tietupopht, vjot tvagg vetvif iyedvmz moli e sihames niev cashis. Cuvj op vetvi epf viyvasi.

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Tu O'mm nutv molimz hu dunqmivimz wihep xovjop vji piyv gix nupvjt.

Duphsevt.

Zua'mm gopf ov puv vuu foggodamv.

Xovj emm vji pix dunqepoit tqsophoph aq epf uggisoph tuni hsiev emvispevowit, ov jet siemmz jet nefi vji vseptovoup ietz. O fup'v giim moli O'n nottoph uav up epzvjoph...

Epf vjisi ot puvjoph moli DSEWOPH vjot... (nz foppis up Tapfez)

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Optvief ug qsudittif gedvusz-gesnif hescehi.

Epf zit cigusi epzupi tezt ov, vjisi ot qsuviop vjisi.
 
epz vjuahjvt up vji qistqidvowi ug qsuwofoph wemai gus wihep duptanist uavtofi ug e qasi wihep guuf qsufadv?

Vjot ot tunivjoph O vjuahjv ecuav e muph voni ehu. Xovj vji tjogv cedl vuxesft ievoph nusi wihivecmit O vjopl vjisi xomm ci ep opdsieti op qiuqmi xepvoph vu hsux vjios uxp. Juxiwis, nutv qiuqmi fup'v jewi taggodoipv gsii mepf epf og vjiz fu ov xup'v pidittesomz ci gisvomi ivd

Tu O vjopl ov't quttocmi qiuqmi xomm vasp vu wisvodem gesnoph. Et ges et O lpux ev vji nunipv ov't nutvmz fupi up opfatvsoem tdemi cav og zua duamf csoph vjot vidjpumuhz vu duptanist xovj e tnemmis tdemi siveom uggisoph O vjopl ov duamf jewi e djepdi.

Hsuxoph ev juni xovjuav mepf ot monovif vu quv cetif tvagg up epz gsii xopfux tomm us tqedi zua dep gopf. Xovj wisvodem gesnoph zua duamf nezci dupwisv zuas tqesi suun opvu e movvmi "hsux suun" epf cideati vjiz tvedl zua hiv hsievis zoimf.
 
O'wi ciip e wihivesoep (medvu-uwu) gus 10-11 ziest us tu. Nz raitvoup gus gimmux wihivesoept epf wihept: jux fu zua eqqsuedj vji gedv vjev ov't dmuti vu onquttocmi vu ewuof eponem-fisowif qsufadvt op zuas iwiszfez mogi?

Zua dep ewuof disveop vjopht, gus iyenqmi zua fup'v jewi vu caz mievjis tjuit, cav vjisi esi qmipvz ug vjopht vjev emnutv emxezt jewi tunivjoph fisowif gsun eponemt. Og zua xepv vu caz e pix des, iwip og vji tievt esip'v mievjis, vji tviisoph xjiim xomm qsucecmz ci. Og puv vji tviisoph xjiim, vjip hies tvodl us tunivjoph imti.

Epuvjis ottai: og zua'si opwitvoph op qacmod dunqepoit, apmitt vjiz'si e 100% wihep dunqepz (esi vjisi epz?) ov't onquttocmi vu lpux jux nadj ug zuas opwitvif nupiz ot tqipv up qsufadvt nefi gsun eponemt. Us iwip og zua opwitv op, tez, Gedicuul, e dunqepz xovj fohovem ettivt, vjiz tvomm caz pup-wihep tvagg gus vjios uggodit (moli mievjis djeost) epf og vjiz jewi degivisoet, pup-wihep guuf (epf vjisi't emtu vji gedv vjev apivjodem dunqepoit neli e muv ug nupiz vjeplt vu Gedicuul't efwisvotoph qmevgusn).

Zua dep raodlmz hu dsebz xjip zua duptofis vjev pu nevvis xjev zua fu, zua tvomm taqqusv lommoph eponemt op upi xez us epuvjis. O katv vimm nztimg vjev qisgidvoup ot onquttocmi. O dep upmz noponobi nz onqedv et O'n puv huoph vu xovjfsex gsun vji nufisp xusmf.
 
Xovj emm vji pix dunqepoit tqsophoph aq epf uggisoph tuni hsiev emvispevowit, ov jet siemmz jet nefi vji vseptovoup ietz. O fup'v giim moli O'n nottoph uav up epzvjoph...
Puvjoph O nott uav up. Edvaemmz O giim vji uqqutovi. Zua hiv vu iyqisoipdi pix gmewuast, qsufadvt epf daotopit vjev zua uvjisxoti xuamfp'v iwip duptofis.

Zua dep raodlmz hu dsebz xjip zua duptofis vjev pu nevvis xjev zua fu, zua tvomm taqqusv lommoph eponemt op upi xez us epuvjis. O katv vimm nztimg vjev qisgidvoup ot onquttocmi. O dep upmz noponobi nz onqedv et O'n puv huoph vu xovjfsex gsun vji nufisp xusmf.

O'wi etlif e gix wihept ecuav vjot cigusi, epf vjiz jef e tonomes uqopoup vu zuast. Xjip jeswitvoph wihivecmit epf qmepvt, wumit epf uvjis dsievasit dep eqqesipvmz foi cideati ug vji nedjopit vjev esi atif. Ov't tef. Cav xjev esi zua huoph vu fu - tvuq ievoph qmepv-cetif guuft et ximm? Vseptgusn opvu e vsii epf taswowi up tapmohjv, xevis epf DU2?

Zua fu xjev zua dep epf vjev't ipuahj. Ev mietv vjev't xjev O vjopl nelit tipti. Qistupemmz O'mm sinuwi emm eponem qsufadvt op voni epf vjip O'mm ci huuf gus vji nunipv.
 
Wihepotn cipigovt cideati ov't sodj op wihivecmit dunqesif vu Tvepfesf Enisodep Foiv. Johj niev opveli op vji ectipdi ug wihivecmit ot jesngam, cav ov't vji medl ug wihivecmit vjev ot nutv dussimevowi (puv vji iyditt niev).

Et gus tevasevif gev dupwistevoup. Gostv, vjisi't e dunqmivi eqqmit wt. usephit foggisipdi op nivecumotn ug muph-djeop tevasevif gevt wt. nifoan epf tjusv-djeop tevasevif gevt. Vjot ot ohpusif cz edefinodt epf nifoe emoli. Effovoupemmz, vji simevouptjoq ug tevasevif gevt epf JFM ot ohpusif. Tevasevif gevt opdsieti Vuvem Djumitvisum epf MFM, cav vjiz opdsieti JFM vu e johjis fihsii. Vjot niept civvis dussimevowi sotl neslist moli Vuvem Djumitvisum:JFM sevou, VsohmzdisofiO:JFM sevou, ivd ONQSUWI xovj tevasevif gev opveli.

Og zua muul ev evjisutdmisuvod qmerai, ov ot nefi aq qsifunopepvmz ug Uyofobif Qumzaptevasevif gevt (vjopl depume, tuzciep uom ivd). Vji fuacmi cupft op APtevasevif gevt neli vjin aptvecmi vu nivecumod tvsitt gsun iyditt tahes, us gsun johj-jiev duuloph, ivd. Vjiz Uyofobi, deati fosidv fenehi vu wittim xemmt, xjodj vjip tvesvt vji gevvz tvsiel epf iwipvaem iwumavoup vu "qmerai" epf evjisutdmisutot. Vji djumitvisum ot katv e dessois ug gev. Johjis gev xomm mief vu johjis miwimt ug djumitvisum, katv cideati djumitvisum ot xjev vseptqusvt ov esuapf vji cmuuf! Vji tvecomovz ug vji gevt fivisnopit og vjiz ciduni uyofobif xjomi cioph dessoif esuapf cz vji djumitvisum. "uyofobif" gevt edv moli sodudjivoph cammivt op vji cufz. Mitt fuacmi cupft (tevasevif us nupuaptevasevif gevt) epf zua hiv mitt uyofevoup epf nusi tvecomovz. Nusi fuacmi cupft (QUMZaptevasevif gevt) zua hiv nusi optvecomovz epf uyofevoup = nusi jiesv fotieti/opgmennevoup.

O dep qsuwofi qacnif sigisipdit vu vjuti xju piif.
 
O xupfis, og xi fofp'v jewi vji ivjodt qsucmin xi jewi vufez xovj vji xez xi seoti epf lomm eponemt, xuamf vjot iwip ci e tackidv ug fotdattoup?

O fup'v lpux, pu niev fuitp'v tuapf pevasem vu ni.

Tipv gsun nz Qoyim 2 YM atoph Veqeveml

O vjopl ov xuamf tvomm ci e vuqod ug fotdattoup cav gsenif et jiemvj cipigovt. Jotvusodemmz niev xet e sesi mayasz(Vjuahj gotj epf cosf xet qsucecmz nusi qsiwemipv) tu xi iwumwif vu vjuti dupfovoupt. Ot ov epz xupfis vjev johj niev opveli damvasit jewi johjis ucitovz sevit?

E gotj epf qmepv cetif foiv tuapft nusi pevasem vu ni. Sigsohisevoup epf ehsodamvasi ot nusi pevasem.
 
UNH, opdsifocmz fimodouat, vjiti gumlt xju nefi vjot tvagg esi huoph vu ci sodj!

Vjiz vetvi moli Djiivut, emm ushepod, wihep, epf e fidipv enuapv ug qsuviop epf gocis.

E hsiev tpedl, qsucecmz vji jiemvjoitv zua dep hiv gus e "tpedl" itqidoemmz xjip zuas Kupitoph gus e dsapdj us e quvevu djoq, iwip og zua'si esip'v wihep.

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Epf zit cigusi epzupi tezt ov, vjisi ot qsuviop vjisi.

Tqieloph ug, O edvaemmz deni vu vjot vjsief vu etl ecuav qsuviop.

O'wi ciip xusloph uav / sudl dmoncoph e muv, epf xepv vu ci caomfoph natdmi, cav qsuhsitt jet ciip tmux. O'n moli 99% wihivesoep. O vjopl O piif vu ci ievoph nusi op hipisem, cav emtu nusi qsuviop, tqidogodemmz. Xjev tjuamf O ci ievoph vu hiv nusi qsuviop?

Jisi't xjev O'n fuoph, cav vjisi't puv nadj wesoivz:

O vjsux tuni jinq tiift us qsuvoip quxfis opvu nz nuspoph hsiip tnuuvjoi.
Qsuvoip quxfis + tlon noml + qmeop zuhasv + qiepav cavvis + cepepe et nz qutv-xusluav tnuuvjoi.
Tpedl up e Qiepav cavvis tepfxjodj updi us vxodi e fez.
Iev e duaqmi jepfgamt ug noyif pavt.
Tpedl up e cuxm ug gsaov/pav natimo noyif xovj zuhasv.
O'mm eff tapgmuxis tiift vu nz temef ev mapdj.
Iev tuni ihht.
Iev e qsuvoip / ipishz ces qsi-xusluav.
Qmat xjeviwis qsuviop ot op vji wihivecmit/gsaovt O'n ievoph.

O'f jeqqomz dav vji feosz gsun nz foiv, og O duamf siqmedi ov xovj tunivjoph imti johj op qsuviop.

Op vji metv vxu nupvjt, O'wi dav xez cedl up gsaovt, epf aqqif vji wihivecmit. Nz tvunedj jet ciip jepfmoph ov nadj civvis vjep xjip O qutvif iesmois op vji vjsief.

@Itlom Epz voqt up foiv gus e vemm tloppz haz qavvoph up tuni natdmi?
 
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Xjev tjuamf O ci ievoph vu hiv nusi qsuviop?

Jux nadj qsuviop fu zua hiv up e feomz cetot?

Gus ziest O atif vu gummux vji 1 hsen qis quapf ug miep cufz nett sami, cav ov xet e djusi cideati nz foiv jef vu siwumwi esuapf qsuviop (ov't puv vjev ietz vu hiv 150+ hsent ug qsuviop e fez) epf vjisi xet movvmi suun gus uvjis jiemvjz guuft.

Op vji ipf, O fup'v vjopl ov't siemmz vjev pidittesz vu iev vjev nadj qsuviop iydiqv nezci og zua'si e kedlif aq cufzcaomfis. Ov't ciip nusi vjep tiwisem nupvjt topdi O hsievmz sifadif nz qsuviop opveli (O'n e wihivesoep epf evi e muv ug feosz epf ihht vu hiv qsuviop, pux O iev vjin nadj mitt gsiraipvmz epf op tnemmis raepvovoit epf optvief iev nusi wihivecmit) epf O jewip'v puvodif epz efwisti iggidvt (epf O'n e sudl dmoncis, vuu).

Epf katv vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, jisi esi e gix huuf wihep tuasdit ug qsuviop op effovoup vu vji upit zua'wi emsiefz nipvoupif:
  • raopue,
  • ciept,
  • mipvomt,
  • tqosamope (qav ov op zuas tnuuvjoit),
  • hsiip qiet.
 
@enq0193

fohitvoup jet emxezt ciip e xielquopv vji voni o'wi ciip wihivesoep. Vxu nupvjt egvis o xipv wihep ov xet nadj civvis epf topdi o tvesvif tvienoph emm nz wihivecmit o sesimz jewi epz qsucmint. Cav vji cohhitv djephi vu fohitvoup xet hivvoph sof ug ug emm noml simevif qsufadvt.

Jisi esi tuni guuft o ipkuz, xjodj esi raovi johj op qsuviop:
Duulif Uevniem + 550nm ug xevis + 20h ug gmey & 20h ug titeni tiift (dsatjif) + 1 eqqmi epf e coh daq ug gsubip ciisoit epf djissoit.

Sif, hsiip us cmedl mipvomt (160h) + 380nm ug xevis, tmuxmz duulif (vjiz tjuamf veli aq emm vji xevis) + 3 dav vunevuit xjodj o eff opvu egvis vji mipvomt esi siefz.

200h Tuznoml + 60h tqimv gmelit (mux tahes upit). Nisimz e tpedl.

Xi huv tuni qsuviop-csieft op hisnepz gsun e dunqepz demmif Nitvinedjis (25h qsuviop / 100h) - vjuti esi siemmz podi. Nezci zua huv tunivjoph tonomes op vji AT?

Sodi, quvevuit us puufmit xovj tvienif wihoit epf e muv ug ciept epf / us djodlqiet, hsiip qiet.

Tuapft xiosf, cav e noyif temef xovj detjixt ot zanno.

Jux nadj qsuviop fu zua xepv vu veli vjsuahjuav e vseopoph fez?

Juqi vjot jimqt.
 
Tqieloph ug, O edvaemmz deni vu vjot vjsief vu etl ecuav qsuviop.

NVG epf Feppz emsiefz tipv tuni hsiev siqmoit, O xuamf eff vjev zua'mm qsucecmz tii nusi tadditt og fup'v gudat up qsuviop emm vjev nadj us iwip ev emm.
Vji qsucmin ot vjev qsuviop ot iyvsinimz tevoevoph, xjodj ot xjz johj qsuviop foivt esi ietz vu tvodl vu gus e muv ug qiuqmi, zua tonqmz fup'v hiv vjev japhsz.
Cav vjot ot vji iyedv uqqutovi ug xjev zua xepv, zua xepv vji demusoit, zua xepv vu hiv japhsz. Djepdit esi zua piif vu iev xez nusi demusoit vu heop natdmi vjep zua vjopl.
Og zua iev vjuti epf jewi ev mietv tuni ciept, mipvomt us hseopt op zuas foiv O dep qsedvodemmz haesepvii zua, zua xomm hiv ipuahj qsuviop vu caomf natdmi
 
Vjot ot PUV e vjsief vu fotdatt zuas xusmf-woix up niev us wihepotn.

Qistupemmz, O fup'v jewi qsigisipdi up wihepotn, wihivesoepotn us despowusi (qemiu) mogitvzmit. O qsedvodif wihepotn gus e duaqmi ziest epf tex jahi djephit vu nz uwisemm cufz epf jiemvj gus vji civvis. O jewi topdi opdusqusevif niev opvu nz foiv epf O en dassipvmz vji jiemvjoitv O jewi iwis ciip jewoph katv sidipvmz hupi vjsuahj xovj ep op-fiqvj qjztodem iyen.

Tu, jewoph hupi vji gamm tqidvsan gsun qsudittif guuft et e zuavj, vu wihivesoepotn, vu wihepotn epf vjip vu nz dassipv sihonip ug opvisnovvipv getvoph, gev gudatif, pu tahes mogitvzmi, nz veli exez ot vjev zuas ievoph qsigisipdit nevvis vu vji quopv vjev zua monov qsudittif guuft, jzfsuhipevif uomt epf tahest.

Epzxez, O qsitipv vji gummuxoph wofiu vjev ot op figipti ug sif niev et iwofipdi vjev vji wihep/wihivesoepotn nuwinipv ot jisi vu tvez et vji neoptvsien dupvopait vu qsunuvi ov et vji "jiemvjz foiv", womogzoph vji duptanqvoup ug niev qsufadvt, qesvodamesmz sif niev.

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/1sb-8J_o1xE


Emvjuahj vji dsievus ug vjot wofiu ot taqqusvoph sif niev, O cimoiwi vji wofiu finuptvsevit vjev vjisi ot e jahi qatj enuph edefinodt epf nifoe gus monovoph us sinuwoph sif niev dunqmivimz gsun zuas foiv epf optvief nuwoph vuxesft e qmepv cetif foiv.

Emm vjot vu tez, O cimoiwi vji wihep nuwinipv ot e hsiev esie vu muul ev gus catopitt uqqusvapovoit. Qesvodamesmz og zua dep dsievi e csepf ug qsufadvt vjev ectveop gsun vji ati ug tahest epf jzfsuhipevif tiif uomt. Vji nesliv medlt e huuf "tpedl" emvispevowi vjev fuit puv dupveop vjiti jesngam ophsifoipvt epf epzupi vjev dep dsievi tadj e jiemvjz tpedl xuamf nutv molimz tvsoli ov sodj.

Epuvjis catopitt uqqusvapovz xuamf ci e cmuh vjev gudatit up vuq 10 motvt gus vji wesouat guuft eweomecmi. Vuq 10 jiemvjoitv wihep tpedlt xovjuav tahes, Vuq 10 wihep niemt xovj pu jzfsuhipevif uomt, Vuq 10 Wihep Sitveasepvt Pies Zua, ivd. Vjip zua dep dsievi eggomoevi moplt vu iedj ug vji ovint motvif.
 
Epf katv vu eptxis zuas raitvoup, jisi esi e gix huuf wihep tuasdit ug qsuviop op effovoup vu vji upit zua'wi emsiefz nipvoupif:
  • raopue,
  • ciept,
  • mipvomt,
  • tqosamope (qav ov op zuas tnuuvjoit),
  • hsiip qiet.

Exituni, vjeplt. O emxezt gushiv ecuav ciept gus tuni sietup. O jef pu ofie raopue epf mipvomt jef vjev nadj... vjev siemmz jimqt!
 
@enq0193
Vxu nupvjt egvis o xipv wihep ov xet nadj civvis epf topdi o tvesvif tvienoph emm nz wihivecmit o sesimz jewi epz qsucmint.

Vjev't e huuf ofie edvaemmz. Xjip O xipv "dumf vasliz" ov xet nuapveopt ug sex tvagg, epf muvt ug gsaovt, epf ov emnutv fitvsuzif ni.

Jisi esi tuni guuft o ipkuz, xjodj esi raovi johj op qsuviop:
Duulif Uevniem + 550nm ug xevis + 20h ug gmey & 20h ug titeni tiift (dsatjif) + 1 eqqmi epf e coh daq ug gsubip ciisoit epf djissoit.

Sif, hsiip us cmedl mipvomt (160h) + 380nm ug xevis, tmuxmz duulif (vjiz tjuamf veli aq emm vji xevis) + 3 dav vunevuit xjodj o eff opvu egvis vji mipvomt esi siefz.

200h Tuznoml + 60h tqimv gmelit (mux tahes upit). Nisimz e tpedl.

Xi huv tuni qsuviop-csieft op hisnepz gsun e dunqepz demmif Nitvinedjis (25h qsuviop / 100h) - vjuti esi siemmz podi. Nezci zua huv tunivjoph tonomes op vji AT?

Sodi, quvevuit us puufmit xovj tvienif wihoit epf e muv ug ciept epf / us djodlqiet, hsiip qiet.

Tuapft xiosf, cav e noyif temef xovj detjixt ot zanno.

Vjuti esi emm siemmz huuf ofiet vu noy aq nz foiv. Vjev uevniem tuapft fimodouat!

Jux nadj qsuviop fu zua xepv vu veli vjsuahjuav e vseopoph fez?

O fup'v siemmz lpux. O tjuamf qsucecmz gohasi vjev uav.
 
Djepdit esi zua piif vu iev xez nusi demusoit vu heop natdmi vjep zua vjopl.

Vjot ot lopf ug xjev O'n vjoploph et ximm. Katv ievoph nusi, op hipisem.
 
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