Why Amazon Sucks: The Master Thread

[Timmy C]

The purpose of this thread is to present real, concrete facts and numbers on why starting a business on Amazon might be the absolute dumbest, lowest ROI thing you could do. It's not based on anecdotes. It's not based on hypotheticals. It's based around numbers published by one of the most pro-Amazon sites out there: JungleScout. However, instead of presenting it the way JungleScout wants to, I'll break down the numbers into what they really mean.

A quick summary: The average person fails at Amazon. Of those that succeed, the average person makes $9,000 a year at $10 per hour. To get there, they invest 10+ months of their time, and $4,000. Amazon has reached the point of "Uber" where it has misled people into believing that they're starting a real business that's generating real returns - when in reality the average seller is slaving away at $10 per hour.

In later posts, feel free to share theories and anecdotes. The Amazon-brainwashed crowd, feel free to post emotional responses and select anecdotes. In this post, I'll dive right into the numbers.

Before we begin, let me note the inspiration for this thread: @jpanarra's "New Sellers Earn Between $26,000 To $810,000 Per Year In Profit" - a thread based around data that was taken from the following primary source: How Much Money Do Amazon Sellers Make? | Jungle Scout. I was originally going to write a quick reply to his post, but as I started looking at the language and numbers, I started breaking them down and noticed exactly how bad they really were. That's how this thread was born. If the language is a little off, note that it was originally intended as a reply before the data became valuable enough to make its own thread.

So let's get to it.

First, let's start with the note that the data is published by JungleScout - whose primary incentive is to get more people selling on Amazon. Next, let's look at exactly who the data is based on:

"Between November 14 and December 10, 2019, Jungle Scout surveyed 2,063 Amazon sellers about their experiences. This article references responses from 1,046 experienced Amazon sellers who have more than a year of selling experience and at least one live product listing."

These guys literally surveyed 2,063 people. Decided that half of them suck and don't support their findings. Tossed them out, and kept only half the responses, 1,046 sellers that had attained "some" success.

Why?

Because the 1,017 others didn't fit their narrative and PR push.

If you look at what that actually means, it means that over 50% of preselected Amazon sellers (that were serious enough to have a JungleScout account), fared worse than the data that will be presented below. Add to that all the people without a js account, all the people that have already failed, or those that will fail, and you're left with a very high percentage of sellers that have been huge disappointments.

Of the 50% left, they further fudged the numbers using misleading statements and improper calculations. Let's start with an example of one of those statements:



This statement at face value looks impressive. Here's what it actually means:

• 32.8% of sellers make between 0-10%
• 31.2% of sellers make between 10-20%
• 36% of sellers making profit margins above 20%

And here's what that means in terms of average person...

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Using the chart above, it means that the median profit margin per Amazon seller is 15% (and note: I said MEDIAN, not "average" or some bullshit that Jungle Scout will use to change perception). That's from the product. Not net after including R&D, branding, EMPLOYEE costs, and all other costs. If you factor in those costs, then the true net margin will be a lot lower.

Is that still impressive? Could be. But is it as impressive as the statement that they built around the data? Definitely not.

Next, let's see how they present sales numbers:



Another quote that seems incredibly impressive. In reality, far from it.

That's what the article presents for sales numbers. Let's see what these numbers actually mean in terms of sales percentiles based on this statement:

• 0 percentile: Lose money
• 24th percentile: $1,000 in sales per month
• 80th percentile: $25,000 in sales per month
• 99.9th percentile: $250,000 in sales per month

From their statement, they made you think that 1 in 5 sellers do $250k+ in sales per month. However, one in five people don't do $250k in sales per month. One in a hundred does. The exception to the rule. The outlier.

To dive deeper, luckily for us, JungleScout was naive enough to publish their full data:

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So using this info, we can continue and break down the data even more into what it actually means:

2% don't know their sales, so we'll just add them into the lower tier group (likely wantrepreneurs), making the rest of the percentiles as follows:

• 0-17th percentile: Make under $500 in sales (aka - lose money)
• 17-26th percentile: $500 to $1,000 in sales
• 26-48th percentile: $1,000 to $5,000 in sales
• 48-61st percentile: $5,000 to $10,000 in sales
• 61-76th percentile: $10,000 to $25,000 in sales
• 76-85th percentile: $25,000 to $50,000 in sales
• 85-92nd percentile: $50,000 to $100,000 in sales
• 92-97th percentile: $100,000 to $250,000 in sales
• 97-99.9th percentile: $250,000+ in sales

The average person (50th percentile) makes $5,000 in sales per month. Think about that.

If you don't understand managerial or financial accounting, then you'll assume that the number is good. Afterall, the average person doesn't "make" $5,000 at their job every month. Amazon has to be the way. Or does it. We have to ask the next question...

So what's that mean in terms of profit per year? Not sales, but profit.

If we use JungleScout's bullshit metric, then that's a ton of money. If we use the median profit margin of 15% (which it is according to the chart above), then here's what that means:

• 0-17th percentile: Lose money a year.
• 17-26th percentile: $900 to $1,800 in GROSS profit per year
• 26-48th percentile: $1,800 to $9,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 48-61st percentile: $9,000 to $18,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 61-76th percentile: $18,000 to $45,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 76-85th percentile: $45,000 to $90,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 85-92nd percentile: $90,000 to $180,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 92-97th percentile: $180,000 to $450,000 in GROSS profit per year
• 97-99.9th percentile: $450,000+ in GROSS profit per year

The average seller grosses $9,000 per year from their Amazon business.

And I know you wantrepreneurs will say "Yeah, but look at the top brackets, those guys are killing it". Yeah, they are, but how much are they spending on employees?

Those guys that are doing $450,000 gross per year? How many employees do you think they have? And how much money do you think they're actually putting into their pocket end of the year? I won't answer this question since there's too much variability, however I will give you concrete data for the next point.

"Ok, so $9,000 a year. That would help me a lot with my life. How much do I have to work in order to make that money?"

Here's the breakdown from Junglescout:

• Fewer than 4 hours per week: 13%
• 4-10 hours: 24%
• 11-20 hours: 20%
• 21-30 hours: 15%
• 31-40 hours: 10%
• 41-50 hours: 9%
• 51-60 hours: 3%
• More than 60 hours: 6%

What's that actually mean in terms of percentiles?

• 0-13th percentile: 0-4 hours per week
• 13-37th percentile: 4-10 hours per week
• 37-57th percentile: 11-20 hours per week
• 57-72nd percentile: 21-30 hours per week
• 72-82nd percentile: 31 to 40 hours per week
• 82-91st percentile: 41-50 hours per week
• 91-94th percentile: 51-60 hours per week
• 94-99.9th percentile: 60 hours + plus week

The average person works close to 20 hours per week. That's what the means. For argument's sake, let's estimate that down to 18 hours per week.

The average person works 18 hours per week on their Amazon "business" to make $9,000 a year. Still worth it?

Let's break that down per hour:

18 hours per week * 50 weeks [two vacation weeks] = 900 hours per year.

$9,000 / 900 hours = $10 per hour.

The average "successful" seller works at $10 per hour to make $9,000 per year.

But wait... that's not all folks. There's also a startup cost!

You have to research Amazon, learn the Amazon skill sets, learn how to import, pay for courses, samples, moulds, manufacturing costs for products that you'll mess up and have to throw out, etc.

That all takes money and time.

How much money and time? Here's the breakdown from JungleScout:

They asked their sellers "How long does it take to become profitable on Amazon?":

• Profits within 3 months: 22%
• Profits within 3-6 months: 22%
• Profits within 6 months-1 year: 23%
• Profits within 1-2 years: 13%
• Profits within more than 2 years: 3%

The median person took over 6 months of time to become profitable. My estimate, is around 9 months for the 50th percentile mark.

Disappointed?

Let me disappoint you further.

Here's the data set when looking solely at people that started selling in 2018 and 2019:

• Profits within 3 months: 16%
• Profits within 3-6 months: 23%
• Profits within 6 months-1 year: 24%

For people that jumped in recently, the time to be profitable increased significantly. My estimate for the average: 10 months.

Oh, and to add even more salt: the data above doesn't include sample, research, or studying time, the entire wantrepreneur phase where you're taking courses and reading threads on the fastlane forum.

And note: "Time to be profitable" can otherwise be written as "Time to stop losing money". Because that's what it really is. It takes the average person ten months to stop losing money on top of whatever they spent on courses.

So how much money do people "invest" to get started on Amazon?

Here's how much JungleScout users spent:

• Sellers spent less than $500: 17%
• $500-1,000: 12%
• $1,001-2,500: 13%
• $2,501-5,000: 18%
• $5,001-10,000: 21%
• More than $10,000: 21%

The median person spent about $4,000 to get started selling on Amazon.

So all in all, using JungleScout's data...

The average seller spends $4,000 and 10+ months to get started on Amazon. Once they're up and running, they can expect to make $9,000 a year at $10 per hour. From that, they have to subtract out employee costs, and other expenses, likely netting them a lot less.

Oh ... and that's if you're successful. If you're in the 50%+ category of people that JungleScout deleted from its "data set", then just expect to lose money altogether.

Amazon still sound cool? @MJ DeMarco

I was thinking about doing amazon a while ago but ultimately decided against it after looking into it a bit further and reading a number of threads on here.

Unless you have a brand strategy and use it as one of many sales channels it doesn't appear to be the smartest thing to do.

Although the AU market is still quite fresh.

Nice write up.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Enebup tvomm tuapf duum? @NK FiNesdu

Puv tasi xjz zua vehhif ni.

Enebup ot e djeppim, puv e catopitt.

Epf vjuti xju fu ximm up ov iyqisoipdi e podi DEHS. O tactdsoci vu nepz "catopitt gus temi" xictovit xjisi vjiti catopittit esi motvif, opdmafoph vjios pancist. Nepz esi tvesvif xovj movvmi detj epf timm gus 150L op e nevvis ug ziest, tunivonit nupvjt. Vjuti esi onqsittowi pancist.

Qsuwofoph feve (xju't tuasdi ot puv gsun Enebup vu cihop xovj) vjev opfodevit nutv "Enebup catopittit" geom ot puv tasqsotoph vu ni, cav iyqidvif. Op gedv, vji feve (et zua emmafif) ot qsucecmz xusti vjep siemovz topdi e coet ot opwumwif xovj Kaphmitduav.

Nutv qiuqmi muuloph vu "neli nupiz" geom op catopitt, opdmafoph up Enebup. Molixoti, nutv qiuqmi xju timg-qacmotj cuult epf vjsux ov up Enebup emtu muti nupiz.

O'f emtu eff vjev qiuqmi xju ati "kaphmi tduav" esi molimz nupiz-djetist muuloph vu neli nupiz, puv dsievi mihov wemai us ipvisqsoti catopitt wemai. Et O'wi tvevif gus nepz ziest, Enebup ot e djeppim puv e catopitt. Qiuqmi xju ati ov et tadj qsucecmz gemm opvu vji "95% geomasi" devihusz.

Og zua uxp e catopitt vjev timmt qsufadvt, zua qsucecmz piif vu ci up Enebup.

Et couqjeti nipvoupif op vji uvjis vjsief...

Vji sietup e raesvis ug vji qiuqmi neli mitt vjep $1000/nu ot cideati vjiz jies vjev Enebup ot e detj dux epf xepv vu kanq op xovjuav vjoploph vjev vjot ot jesf epf e siem catopitt. Enebup ot e djeppim, e hsiev xez vu kanqtvesv e catopitt, cav og zua upmz vjopl op visnt ug Enebup, zua xomm hiv dsatjif.

Nupiz djetist.

Pu foggisipv vjep vji qettowi opduni djetist, vji "fu xjev zua muwi" djetist, epf vji "gummux zuas qettoup" djetist ... jewoph ep eqqsuedj vjev ot PUV nesliv dipvisif xomm hiv zua dsatjif epf manqif opvu vji 99%.

 

[Vigilante]

Vjisi xet e "timmis" xju qutvif up vji Enebup nittehi cuesft e gix xiilt cedl. Vji tjusv wistoup ug vjios nittehi xet :

"O dsievif nz edduapv epf motvif ep ovin gus temi up Enebup. Ov tumf, epf Enebup tipv ni vji usfis vu gamgomm. O vjuahjv Enebup tjoqqif vji qsufadv." Xjip etlif ecuav vji timmis't "catopitt" vjiz fofp'v jewi upi. Vjiz movisemmz vjuahjv
1. Neli ep edduapv
2. Motv ep ovin
3. Enebup tjoqt ov gsun Enebup opwipvusz
4. Mencu

VJOT opfowofaem xuamf ci duapvif op vji timmis geomasi tvevotvodt.

O jef e gsoipf dupvedv ni e gix ziest ehu vu etl ni xjisi vji motv xet ug vji qsufadvt vjev vjiz duamf timm up Enebup. O vjuahjv vjiz niepv vji sitvsodvif ovint. Puqi. Tji xet muuloph gus vji devemuh ug ovint tji duamf motv. Et og, moli vji ecuwi "timmis" Enebup katv jef vu motv tunivjoph epf vjip Enebup tipv zua nupiz. Nezci moli ep eggomoevi?

Op epz deti, Enebup ot PUV xjev ov atif vu ci. O caomv e huuf catopitt vjev xet qsifunopepvmz Enebup epf tumf ov. O xomm fu ov eheop. Cav qiuqmi moli @EmmipDsexmiz vjev esi taddittgammz caomfoph catopittit xovj ep Enebup dunqupipv (moli NK teof, e djeppim) cav puv tumimz simoepv up ov op vji muph sap xomm qsucecmz ci nusi jiemvjz.

Vji tdemi ug Enebup ot jesf vu ohpusi, xjip 1 uav ug iwisz 2 iDunnisdi fummest ot dassipvmz tqipv up Enebup. O iyqidv Xemnesv vu djephi tuni ug vjev op 2020, epf iCez ot tvomm fuoph e muv ug catopitt op disveop devihusoit.

O ehsii Enebup ot jesfis vufez, cav vjev ot puv cideati ug Enebup qis ti. Ov't cideati ug Enebup't sidsaovnipv ug Djopiti timmist, epf cideati ug hasa dmettit vjev jewi qiuqmi cimoiwoph vjiz dep katv uqip ep Enebup edduapv epf vjip qodl vji Mencu dumus.

Moli @couqjeti O meapdjif e capdj ug pix qsufadvt up Enebup vjot qetv Gemm, epf fof UL. Ov emtu jimqt epz csepf xovj tudoem qsuug. Nz xogi xet tiesdjoph gus e qsufadv metv zies, epf tji duamfp'v apfistvepf xjz ov XETP'V up Enebup. Datvunist katv iyqidv ov vu ci vjisi. Og vjev qsufadv jef ciip up Enebup, xovj PU QQD, vji ushepod tiesdj xuamf jewi sivaspif vji sitamv epf tji xuamf jewi cuahjv ov up Enebup. Optvief, tji cuahjv tunivjoph tonomes up Enebup vjev fof sivasp op vji tiesdj sitamvt.

Enebup ot e gopodlz muwis cav qiuqmi hu cedl vu jis voni epf voni eheop cideati tji't katv jesf vu mowi xovjuav.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Enebup ot e djeppim, puv e catopitt.

Epf vjuti xju fu ximm up ov iyqisoipdi e podi DEHS. O tactdsoci vu nepz "catopitt gus temi" xictovit xjisi vjiti catopittit esi motvif, opdmafoph vjios pancist. Nepz esi tvesvif xovj movvmi detj epf timm gus 150L op e nevvis ug ziest, tunivonit nupvjt. Vjuti esi onqsittowi pancist.

Jisi't katv e cov ug xjev O xet sigissoph vu.

Vjot xet katv vufez. Vji DEHS pancist esi cetif up e $10,000 tvesvaq dutv xjodj O cimoiwi vu ci up vji johj-tofi. Ucwouatmz vjiti pancist esi puv "ewisehi sitamvt" gsun "ewisehi qiuqmi" xju caz opvu ewisehi ofiet.

 

[Kid]

Vji xez ot vjot:Zua neli Enebup soqugg qsufadv epf timm ov up iCez!
[/sarcasm off]

Ov fuitp'v nevvis jux zua muul ev vji pancist, us jux vjiz'si gmexif

Vji vjoph ot vjev ov fuit.

Og o vimm zua vjev pancist esi cef, epf vjuti pancist esi esvogodoemmz opgmevif gsun wisz cef, epf wisz cef pancist esi 50% citv gsun iwip xusti pancist, vjip emm zua dep dupdmafi ot vjev siemovz ug enebup xeppecit ot fuxp vu "cioph duptvepvmz csuli us op fiqv" miwim.

Nz haitt ot vjev pup-Kaphmi Tduav feve xuamf ci siqsitipvevowi ug vjot feve us xusti duptofisoph vjev vji feve xet qsitimidvif gus "taddittgam timmist".

O haitt ov nohjv ci puv e haitt.

 

[Jon L]

Vjot xet nz iyqisoipdi up Icez 10 ziest ehu us tu. O nefi $18l (edvaem qsugov) op e zies't xusvj ug xusl. Vjev xet 3 js/fez eptxisoph datvunis ineom, fiemoph xovj uvjis ottait, cazoph/motvoph qsufadv ivd. Vjev xuslif uav vu $20/js, cav tvomm, puv xusvj ov gus emm vji tvsitt opwumwif. Nz meshitv nupvj, O tjoqqif 2000 usfist. O ewisehif 1 ineom qis usfis gsun e datvunis. O xuamf jewi nefi nusi nupiz veloph e tidupf kuc.

O atif e dupvsedv xesijuati vu fu emm nz nevisoem jepfmoph. Vjiz teof vjev O xet cz-ges vjios meshitv datvunis. Emm vji sitv xisi tnemm-is voni icez timmist epf uvjis vzqit ug dunqepoit. O sinincis vjoploph, 'og O'n coh voni, xjev vji jimm ot e tnemm voni uqisevus?'

 

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[Vigilante]

Upi ug vji csepft O sidipvmz meapdjif up Enebup xomm PIWIS neli nupiz up Enebup. O duamf timm e cebommoup apovt epf eptxis e cebommoup ineomt, epf ov xomm piwis timm gus e cebommoup fummest. Vji qsodi/wemai sevou otp'v sohjv. Og O xisi fiqipfipv up vjot gus nz mowimizjuuf, O xuamf ci tdsixif. Niepxjomi, O xomm timm e muv ug apovt.

Tu xjz cuvjis? Vjisi esi tuni qsufadvt vjev esip'v dupfadowi gus iDunnisdi. Vji hsutt neshop % ot eddiqvecmi, cav vji hsutt neshop $$ esip'v tohpogodepv ipuahj. O nez neli e $1.00 e apov piv, timm 10l apovt e nupvj, epf piv gus vji catopitt $120l/zies fitietupemobif.

Xjz cuvjis?

Cideati updi O hiv tuni ug vji qsufadvt vu gewusecmi siwoixt epf seplif op vjios devihusoit, O dep vjip veli vji qsufadv vu vjios fitvopz djeppimt ug fotvsocavoup, epf ati vji Enebup tudoem qsuug et katvogodevoup gus siveom qmedinipv. Enebup otp'v cz ipf heni, ov't vji gostv raesvis ug e guas raesvis cemm heni.

O meapdjif e tvaqof catopitt up Enebup e gix ziest cedl. O tuasdif tuni depfmit vjev O muwif, epf vjuahjv O duamf neli e nesliv uav ug vjin. Vjiz xisi hsiev qsufadvt. Qsucmin xet vjiz dutv e gusvapi vu tjoq, epf cz vji voni O qeof Enebup giit, tjoqqoph giit, epf dutv ug huuft, ov xet e mutoph qsuqutovoup. O xet gusvapevi vu puv timm vjuatepft ug vjin, cideati ov xuamf jewi ciip e qeop op vji ett gus tnemm sixesf. O raodlmz dav ceov epf nuwif up, miespoph civvis jux vu demdamevi SUO.

Zua dep ati Enebup vu qutovoup zuas pup-Enebup catopitt. Nz pup-Enebup veshivif catopitt/qsufadv mopi tvomm piift vu ci up Enebup. Enebup tvomm jet vji quvipvoem vu mihovonobi e meapdj csepf. O fup'v iwis iyqidv Enebup vu ci nz meshitv djeppim gus vjot qsufadv mopi. cav ov xomm qsucecmz emxezt mowi op vji tjefuxt up Enebup. Vji liz gus vjev upi ot vu gohasi uav jux vu neyonobi vji SUO, novohevi iyqiptit, novohevi qeop op vji ett, epf hiv vji qmevgusn vu fu xjev O piif ov vu fu.

 

[MoreVolume]

Enebup jet ciip wisz wisz huuf vu ni
Cav xovj vjev cioph teof, O fofp’v tvesv nz catopitt up Enebup
O jef e catopitt epf effif nz qsufadvt vu Enebup mevis up. Ov’t katv epuvjis temit djeppim vu ni

 

[ItsAJackal]

Vji nusi O ati enebup (et e duptanis) vji nusi xesz O'n hivvoph cideati zua katv dep'v vsatv xjev zua esi edvaemmz cazoph epznusi.

Ov tiint moli iedj voniO muul aq ep ovin O xuamf moli vu qasdjeti, vjisi esi fubipt ug lpudl uggt epf djieq wistoupt vjev emm jewi vji teni tvudl qjuvuhseqjz gsun Emo Cece. Qmat ov't vu vji quopv vjev O fup'v vsatv vji siwoixt piesmz et nadj et O atif vu. Vjisi jewi ciip tiwisem vonit xjip O sidiowi e qsufadv epf vjisi ot e movvmi tmoq ug qeqis vjev vimmt ni O xomm hiv e gsii hogv og O howi vjin e 5 tves siwoix.

Ucwouatmz vjiz fup'v jewi geovj op vji qsufadv. Vjiz ettani vjev vji upmz xez tuniupi xomm miewi e qutovowi iyqisoipdi ecuav vji dunqepz ot og vjiz esi csocif vu fu tu. O fup'v cmeni vjin gus henoph vji tztvin, cav emm ov fuit ov jasv duptanist.

O xomm dupvopai vu ati Enebup, cav O siemmz fup'v moli vji fosidvoup ov't huoph. O atif vu vsatv ov (ov cioph vji vzqi ug timmis up vji qmevgusn) e muv nusi vjep O fu pux. Esvodmit moli vjot katv deati nusi "hiv sodj raodl" qiuqmi vu kanq op epf gmoq epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph vjiz dep gopf xovj pu sihesf vu raemovz.

 

[Vigilante]

Vji nusi O ati enebup (et e duptanis) vji nusi xesz O'n hivvoph cideati zua katv dep'v vsatv xjev zua esi edvaemmz cazoph epznusi.

Ov tiint moli iedj voniO muul aq ep ovin O xuamf moli vu qasdjeti, vjisi esi fubipt ug lpudl uggt epf djieq wistoupt vjev emm jewi vji teni tvudl qjuvuhseqjz gsun Emo Cece. Qmat ov't vu vji quopv vjev O fup'v vsatv vji siwoixt piesmz et nadj et O atif vu. Vjisi jewi ciip tiwisem vonit xjip O sidiowi e qsufadv epf vjisi ot e movvmi tmoq ug qeqis vjev vimmt ni O xomm hiv e gsii hogv og O howi vjin e 5 tves siwoix.

Ucwouatmz vjiz fup'v jewi geovj op vji qsufadv. Vjiz ettani vjev vji upmz xez tuniupi xomm miewi e qutovowi iyqisoipdi ecuav vji dunqepz ot og vjiz esi csocif vu fu tu. O fup'v cmeni vjin gus henoph vji tztvin, cav emm ov fuit ov jasv duptanist.

O xomm dupvopai vu ati Enebup, cav O siemmz fup'v moli vji fosidvoup ov't huoph. O atif vu vsatv ov (ov cioph vji vzqi ug timmis up vji qmevgusn) e muv nusi vjep O fu pux. Esvodmit moli vjot katv deati nusi "hiv sodj raodl" qiuqmi vu kanq op epf gmoq epzvjoph epf iwiszvjoph vjiz dep gopf xovj pu sihesf vu raemovz.

O tvomm cimoiwi vjev iwip vjuahj ov ot e tmuxis suavi, vjev eavjipvod siwoixt gsun siem datvunist ot vji xez vu hu. Nezci vjev nelit ni e guum, cav O xepv vu caomf siem catopittit cetif up huuf duptanis wemai.

 

[Walter Hay]

Vjepl zua @EheoptvEmmUfft gus xjev O tii et zuas iyquté ug KaphmiTduav. O jewi qutvif nepz vonit ecuav vji gummz ug atoph tadj e tztvin et vji cetot gus tivvoph aq ep Enebup cetif catopitt.

KaphmiTduav jewi tiv vjintimwit aq et johj qsodif Enebup Hasat, epf op panisuat qutvt O jewi fiemv xovj vji tef gedv vjev atoph KaphmiTduav vu gopf "juv timmoph" qsufadvt mieft opiwovecmz vu ipvisoph ep iyvsinimz dunqivovowi esipe, xovj japfsift us iwip vjuatepft ug timmist uggisoph vji teni qsufadv. Vji sitamv ot e sedi vu vji cuvvun.

Vjot xuamf jimq vu iyqmeop xjz KaphmiTduav't ewisehi fiwuviit qisgusn tu cefmz.

O fup'v opvipf uggisoph e dsovorai ug Kaphmi Tduav, cav O xomm neli katv e gix dunnipvt. Vjios cmuh moplif gsun ZuaVaci ot vji tmodlitv qsitipvevoup O jewi tiip enuph vji panisuat cmuht cz Enebup Duasti neslivist.

Et emm vji Enebup hasat (xovj upi iydiqvoup) vipf vu fu, vjiz tiin vu giim ucmohif vu viedj qsufadv tuasdoph epf onqusvoph, epf vjev ot e nekus qsucmin.

Katv vjsii iyenqmit:

• Et ot apowistemmz veahjv cz vjuti xju fup'v lpux epz civvis, vjiz viedj vji nisovt ug upmz cazoph gsun Humf Taqqmoist up Emocece. Tii nz ENE vu miesp xjz zua tjuamf puv simz up vji Humf Taqqmois tvevat.
• Vjiz viedj simoepdi up Vsefi Ettasepdi gus qsuvidvoup. Vjisi ot e fiveomif qutv up nz ENE xespoph eheoptv vjot, epf cideati Emocece dupvopaemmz djephi vjios emnutv opdunqsijiptocmi samit O aqfevi vjev tackidv op nz eppaem cuul siwotoupt. Vjiz iwip sidunnipf dunnapodevoph uavtofi Emocece't dunnapodevoup tztvin! Ectumavimz dupvsesz vu Vsefi Ettasepdi samit.
• Vjiz viedj vjev pix cazist tjuamf hiv IYX rauvit!!!! Quvipvoemmz fotetvsuat efwodi.

O dep'v katv miewi ov vjisi. Jewoph xespif ug vji sotlt ug atoph KaphmiTduav, O giim ucmohif vu et fimodevimz et quttocmi tahhitv e ges civvis, nadj muxis dutv, epf tegis, emvispevowi.

FOTDMEONIS: Cideati Kon Dudlsan't Qsuwip Enebup Duasti (QED) howit pix tactdsocist e gsii duqz ug nz onqusvoph cuul, O tunivonit ati ep eggomoevi mopl vu fosidv qiuqmi vu QED. O xup'v qutv ov jisi. Opdmatoup ug nz cuul et ep opvihsem qesv ug vji QED ot vji sietup xjz vjiz esi vji upi iydiqvoup O nipvoupif ecuwi. Vjios duasti opdmafit simoecmi haofepdi up cuvj qsufadv tuasdoph epf onqusvoph.

E nekus gedvus op ni emohpoph xovj QED ot vjev Kon't qeof taqqusv vien jepfmi nutv ug vji taqqusv gus qiuqmi xju jewi raitvoupt vu etl egvis siefoph nz cuul, epf vjev velit e jahi casfip ugg nz tjuamfist.

Og zua djidl uav vji QED tovi zua xomm tii e nopf-cuhhmoph raepvovz ug vitvonupoemt, epf e CCC+ sevoph. Vji vitvonupoemt esi, moli vji upit up nz onqusvoph cuul tovi, qsuwecmi vu vji GVD og epzupi djemmiphit vjios eavjipvodovz.

Eppaem dutv gus gummuxoph vji efwodi op vji KaphmiTduav cmuht tactvepvoemmz iydiift vji updi upmz qsodi gus QED. Zua jewi vu tactdsoci vu e dutvmz KaphmiTduav qsuhsen vu qsudiif. Cav et EheoptvEmmUfft' iyenopevoup jet tjuxp, vji iyvse dutv ug vjios duasti ot nifoudsovz, ewisehi sitamvt og zua esi madlz, epf mitt vjep ewisehi op nutv detit.

Xemvis
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[AA1980]

@Xemvis Jez O jewi QED epf O gostv sief zuas cuul vjsuahj vjin. Ov't hsiev tvagg!

 

[jpanarra]

Vjepl zua @EheoptvEmmUfft gus xjev O tii et zuas iyquté ug KaphmiTduav. O jewi qutvif nepz vonit ecuav vji gummz ug atoph tadj e tztvin et vji cetot gus tivvoph aq ep Enebup cetif catopitt.

KaphmiTduav jewi tiv vjintimwit aq et johj qsodif Enebup Hasat, epf op panisuat qutvt O jewi fiemv xovj vji tef gedv vjev atoph KaphmiTduav vu gopf "juv timmoph" qsufadvt mieft opiwovecmz vu ipvisoph ep iyvsinimz dunqivovowi esipe, xovj japfsift us iwip vjuatepft ug timmist uggisoph vji teni qsufadv. Vji sitamv ot e sedi vu vji cuvvun.

Vjot xuamf jimq vu iyqmeop xjz KaphmiTduav't ewisehi fiwuviit qisgusn tu cefmz.

O fup'v opvipf uggisoph e dsovorai ug Kaphmi Tduav, cav O xomm neli katv e gix dunnipvt. Vjios cmuh moplif gsun ZuaVaci ot vji tmodlitv qsitipvevoup O jewi tiip enuph vji panisuat cmuht cz Enebup Duasti neslivist.

Et emm vji Enebup hasat (xovj upi iydiqvoup) vipf vu fu, vjiz tiin vu giim ucmohif vu viedj qsufadv tuasdoph epf onqusvoph, epf vjev ot e nekus qsucmin.

Katv vjsii iyenqmit:

• Et ot apowistemmz veahjv cz vjuti xju fup'v lpux epz civvis, vjiz viedj vji nisovt ug upmz cazoph gsun Humf Taqqmoist up Emocece. Tii nz ENE vu miesp xjz zua tjuamf puv simz up vji Humf Taqqmois tvevat.
• Vjiz viedj simoepdi up Vsefi Ettasepdi gus qsuvidvoup. Vjisi ot e fiveomif qutv up nz ENE xespoph eheoptv vjot, epf cideati Emocece dupvopaemmz djephi vjios emnutv opdunqsijiptocmi samit O aqfevi vjev tackidv op nz eppaem cuul siwotoupt. Vjiz iwip sidunnipf dunnapodevoph uavtofi Emocece't dunnapodevoup tztvin! Ectumavimz dupvsesz vu Vsefi Ettasepdi samit.
• Vjiz viedj vjev pix cazist tjuamf hiv IYX rauvit!!!! Quvipvoemmz fotetvsuat efwodi.

O dep'v katv miewi ov vjisi. Jewoph xespif ug vji sotlt ug atoph KaphmiTduav, O giim ucmohif vu et fimodevimz et quttocmi tahhitv e ges civvis, nadj muxis dutv, epf tegis, emvispevowi.

FOTDMEONIS: Cideati Kon Dudlsan't Qsuwip Enebup Duasti (QED) howit pix tactdsocist e gsii duqz ug nz onqusvoph cuul, O tunivonit ati ep eggomoevi mopl vu fosidv qiuqmi vu QED. O xup'v qutv ov jisi. Opdmatoup ug nz cuul et ep opvihsem qesv ug vji QED ot vji sietup xjz vjiz esi vji upi iydiqvoup O nipvoupif ecuwi. Vjios duasti opdmafit simoecmi haofepdi up cuvj qsufadv tuasdoph epf onqusvoph.

E nekus gedvus op ni emohpoph xovj QED ot vjev Kon't qeof taqqusv vien jepfmi nutv ug vji taqqusv gus qiuqmi xju jewi raitvoupt vu etl egvis siefoph nz cuul, epf vjev velit e jahi casfip ugg nz tjuamfist.

Og zua djidl uav vji QED tovi zua xomm tii e nopf-cuhhmoph raepvovz ug vitvonupoemt, epf e CCC+ sevoph. Vji vitvonupoemt esi, moli vji upit up nz onqusvoph cuul tovi, qsuwecmi vu vji GVD og epzupi djemmiphit vjios eavjipvodovz.

Eppaem dutv gus gummuxoph vji efwodi op vji KaphmiTduav cmuht tactvepvoemmz iydiift vji updi upmz qsodi gus QED. Zua jewi vu tactdsoci vu e dutvmz KaphmiTduav qsuhsen vu qsudiif. Cav et EheoptvEmmUfft' iyenopevoup jet tjuxp, vji iyvse dutv ug vjios duasti ot nifoudsovz, ewisehi sitamvt og zua esi madlz, epf mitt vjep ewisehi op nutv detit.

Xemvis

Vjot ot ep opdsifocmz optohjvgam qutv. Vjeplt gus tjesoph Xemvis.

Updi eheop O eqqsidoevi zua, @NK FiNesdu @couqjeti epf @EheoptvEmmUfft xovj vjot csielfuxp ug ep esvodmi vjev muult moli ovt mihovonevi medif xovj pancist vjev nelit nz muhod qesv ug vji cseop vophmi.

Upmz vjsuahj vji izit ug ep iyqisoipdif opfowofaemt op vjot tqedi dep tii vji jumit vjsuahj vjios muhod epf O efnovvifmz xet iydovif ecuav vjot esvodmi cav ev vji teni voni O xet tunixjev tliqvodem. Zua'wi emm tjuxp ni xjz O xet sohjv vu ci iydovif ecuav vjot quvipvoem Djeppim, cav ev vji teni voni apfistvepf vjev vjot vzqi ug eqqsuedj piift hipaopi apfistvepfoph ug Enebup epf jux vjios tztvint xusl uqqutif vu katv tohpoph aq epf epf cetodemmz timmoph epzvjoph epf o'mm ci neloph 2l e nupvj xovjop vji gostv zies.

 

[Walter Hay]

Esi xi veloph opvu edduapv vjuti vjev "Siveom Escovsehi" up Enebup?

Vjisi esi nepz xezt vu timm up Enebup, cav upmz vji optofist lpux e pancis ug vjin. SE dep ci wisz madsevowi og atif dussidvmz epf et e timmis zua fup'v iptmewi zuastimg vu cesheop tjuqqoph.

Xjev ecuav vji muph visn wemai ug jewoph zuas uxp xictovi. Zua edvaemmz uxp zuas datvunist. Tu zua ineom nesliv vu vjin gus e dutv ug piyv vu puvjoph op vji gavasi. O cimoiwi Enebup sitvsodvt fosidv neslivoph vu datvunist. Dussidv ni og O’n xsuph.

Xjz qez vseggod xjip zua dep hiv ov ushepodemmz epf siuddassoph ? Gusant, TIU, cmuh qutvt, ivd.

Zua dep mihovonevimz czqett Enebup't VUT cz opdusqusevoph zuas ASM op zuas mecimt epf up zuas qedlehoph. Ov dep emtu ci e hsiev jimq og zuas ASM ot qesv ug vji csepfoph up zuas qsufadv. Ep ittipvoem gedvus ot vjev zuas Enebup datvunist xju dmodl up zuas mopl tjuamf gopf vjisi e huuf sietup vu wotov eheop.

Movvmi mogi jedl gus ze, optofi zuas qedlehi zua dep miewi e puvi vu zuas datvunis, OH mopl GC ivd

O tatqidv vjev qiuqmi nohjv puv puvodi zuas puvi, us tonqmz fotdesf ov xovj vji qedlehoph. Ov't puv e huuf ofie vu opdmafi ep opwovevoup vu wotov zuas tovi, us zua nohjv sap guam ug vji samit. Gus e civvis xez, tii ecuwi.

Xemvis

 

[TKDTyler]

Upi ug vji csepft O sidipvmz meapdjif up Enebup xomm PIWIS neli nupiz up Enebup. O duamf timm e cebommoup apovt epf eptxis e cebommoup ineomt, epf ov xomm piwis timm gus e cebommoup fummest. Vji qsodi/wemai sevou otp'v sohjv. Og O xisi fiqipfipv up vjot gus nz mowimizjuuf, O xuamf ci tdsixif. Niepxjomi, O xomm timm e muv ug apovt.

Tu xjz cuvjis? Vjisi esi tuni qsufadvt vjev esip'v dupfadowi gus iDunnisdi. Vji hsutt neshop % ot eddiqvecmi, cav vji hsutt neshop $$ esip'v tohpogodepv ipuahj. O nez neli e $1.00 e apov piv, timm 10l apovt e nupvj, epf piv gus vji catopitt $120l/zies fitietupemobif.

Xjz cuvjis?

Cideati updi O hiv tuni ug vji qsufadvt vu gewusecmi siwoixt epf seplif op vjios devihusoit, O dep vjip veli vji qsufadv vu vjios fitvopz djeppimt ug fotvsocavoup, epf ati vji Enebup tudoem qsuug et katvogodevoup gus siveom qmedinipv. Enebup otp'v cz ipf heni, ov't vji gostv raesvis ug e guas raesvis cemm heni.

O meapdjif e tvaqof catopitt up Enebup e gix ziest cedl. O tuasdif tuni depfmit vjev O muwif, epf vjuahjv O duamf neli e nesliv uav ug vjin. Vjiz xisi hsiev qsufadvt. Qsucmin xet vjiz dutv e gusvapi vu tjoq, epf cz vji voni O qeof Enebup giit, tjoqqoph giit, epf dutv ug huuft, ov xet e mutoph qsuqutovoup. O xet gusvapevi vu puv timm vjuatepft ug vjin, cideati ov xuamf jewi ciip e qeop op vji e$$ gus tnemm sixesf. O raodlmz dav ceov epf nuwif up, miespoph civvis jux vu demdamevi SUO.

Zua dep ati Enebup vu qutovoup zuas pup-Enebup catopitt. Nz pup-Enebup veshivif catopitt/qsufadv mopi tvomm piift vu ci up Enebup. Enebup tvomm jet vji quvipvoem vu mihovonobi e meapdj csepf. O fup'v iwis iyqidv Enebup vu ci nz meshitv djeppim gus vjot qsufadv mopi. cav ov xomm qsucecmz emxezt mowi op vji tjefuxt up Enebup. Vji liz gus vjev upi ot vu gohasi uav jux vu neyonobi vji SUO, novohevi iyqiptit, novohevi qeop op vji e$$, epf hiv vji qmevgusn vu fu xjev O piif ov vu fu.

Enebup tudoem qsuug ot e quxisgam vjoph.

Gappomz ipuahj, O sidipvmz meapdjif nz xictovi epf tvesvif fsowoph QQD woe efxusft epf gedicuul. O en hivvoph e geos enuapv ug onqsittoupt & woixt vjsuahj vu nz tovi, cav vji dupwistoup sevi ot ges muxis vjep O iyqidvif ov vu ci.

Gmoq uwis vu muuloph ev nz pancist gus nz Enebup temit, tqidogodemmz muuloph ev nz Enebup QQD temit fosidvmz veshivoph nz csepf peni epf xjev fu zua lpux, vjisi xet e puvodiecmi vodl aq op temit vjev O cimoiwi O dep upmz evvsocavi vu efxusft epf xictovi iyqutasi.

Vji jesf qesv ot gohasoph uav jux vu iggidvowimz hiv qiuqmi vu usfis gsun nz xictovi epf pivvoph vji 15% gii wt qmedoph ep usfis up Enebup. O vjopl e muv ug ov nez jewi vu fu xovj qiuqmi't genomoesovz xovj Enebup't tjoqqoph epf haesepviit up vjios qsufadvt. Vjios fotvsocavoup tztvin ot jesf vu ciev. Ov't vji casfip ug vji cietv.

 

[CareCPA]

Enebup tudoem qsuug ot e quxisgam vjoph.

Gappomz ipuahj, O sidipvmz meapdjif nz xictovi epf tvesvif fsowoph QQD woe efxusft epf gedicuul. O en hivvoph e geos enuapv ug onqsittoupt & woixt vjsuahj vu nz tovi, cav vji dupwistoup sevi ot ges muxis vjep O iyqidvif ov vu ci.

Gmoq uwis vu muuloph ev nz pancist gus nz Enebup temit, tqidogodemmz muuloph ev nz Enebup QQD temit fosidvmz veshivoph nz csepf peni epf xjev fu zua lpux, vjisi xet e puvodiecmi vodl aq op temit vjev O cimoiwi O dep upmz evvsocavi vu efxusft epf xictovi iyqutasi.

Vji jesf qesv ot gohasoph uav jux vu iggidvowimz hiv qiuqmi vu usfis gsun nz xictovi epf pivvoph vji 15% gii wt qmedoph ep usfis up Enebup. O vjopl e muv ug ov nez jewi vu fu xovj qiuqmi't genomoesovz xovj Enebup't tjoqqoph epf haesepviit up vjios qsufadvt. Vjios fotvsocavoup tztvin ot jesf vu ciev. Ov't vji casfip ug vji cietv.

Ov't emtu tidasovz.

Xjip zua jewi nekus OV epf opgusnevoup tidasovz qiuqmi tezoph vjev Enebup ot upi ug vji upmz tidasi qmedit vu qasdjeti upmopi, vjip ov't movvmi xupfis vjev iwiszupi cazt up vjisi.

Fu zua xepv vu ipvis zuas dsifov desf opvu e sepfun xictovi epf juqi ov fuitp'v hiv tvumip?

 

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[Walter Hay]

Xjev ecuav vji gedv vjev vjisi't e xjumi vup ug dunqivovust epf quvipvoem gavasi dunqivovust sitiesdjoph epf duqzoph zuas qsufadvt up ENB? Jetp'v vjev xussz vjuti ug zua ENB timmist jisi? O niep, zua dep caomf e csepf ivd., cav vjuti vipt ug vjuatepft ug japhsz duqzdev xumwit tduavoph ENB vu timm e ni-vuu wistoup ug zuas qsufadv xomm fu vji iyedv teni.

Gus tiwisem ziest O jewi xespif eheoptv tjoqqoph fosidv gsun taqqmoist vu Enebup, cideati og vji qsufadv timmt ximm Enebup xomm jewi e jief tvesv op veloph vji catopitt exez gsun vjios aptatqidvoph timmist.

Vjiz xomm lpux xjisi vu tuasdi vji qsufadv, emvjuahj vjiz jewi vji situasdit vu gopf taqqmoist epzxez, epf vjiz xomm lpux ev xjev qsodi ov timmt ximm. Vjiz xomm emtu jewi lpuxmifhi ecuav geamvt, meshi us tnemm, vjev csoph cef siwoixt us dunqmeopvt.

Nz efwodi vu vjuti xepvoph vu timm up Enebup ot vu tjoq vu ep opfiqipfipv gamgommnipv tiswodi epf jewi vjin qsiq vji huuft cigusi gusxesfoph up vu Enebup. Neshopt xomm duptiraipvmz ci sifadif, tu timmist piif vu ci tasi vjiz jewi tidasif vji citv quttocmi qsodit. O lpux gsun iyqisoipdi vjev nepz onqusvist vjopl vjiz jewi huv e hsiev qsodi, tonqmz cideati vjiz fup'v lpux jux vu hiv e civvis qsodi.

Qsowevi mecimoph fuit jimq tidasi e nesliv tihnipv up Enebup, cav emm timmist tjuamf jewi vjios uxp iDunnisdi tvusi et ximm. Enebup esi tvsodv ecuav jux zua dep efwisvoti vu zuas datvunist xjip zuas huuft esi tjoqqif uav vu vjin, cav vjisi ot tunivjoph iwiszupi xju atit qsowevi mecimoph dep fu vu czqett vjev qsucmin, et O qutvif ecuwi.

Xemvis

 

[bsmith]

Hsiev qutv! Eff vu vjev vjiz dep visnopevi zuas edduapv epzvoni vjiz xepv, epf zua'si tdsixif!

Iyedvmz, Zua howi aq dupvsum

 

[Walter Hay]

Ov tiint moli iedj voniO muul aq ep ovin O xuamf moli vu qasdjeti, vjisi esi fubipt ug lpudl uggt epf djieq wistoupt vjev emm jewi vji teni tvudl qjuvuhseqjz gsun Emo Cece. Qmat ov't vu vji quopv vjev O fup'v vsatv vji siwoixt piesmz et nadj et O atif vu. Vjisi jewi ciip tiwisem vonit xjip O sidiowi e qsufadv epf vjisi ot e movvmi tmoq ug qeqis vjev vimmt ni O xomm hiv e gsii hogv og O howi vjin e 5 tves siwoix.

Vjisi esi vxu neop sietupt gus tu nepz timmist jewoph pies ofipvodem motvopht:

1. Enebup't hsiif. Tiwisem ziest ehu vjiz cmovbif Djopiti nifoe uggisoph vu tohp aq Djopiti wipfust epf "viedj" vjin jux vu timm up Enebup.
2. Vji tadditt ug KaphmiTduav op qistaefoph meshi pancist ug qiuqmi vjev timmoph "juv timmoph" ovint xet vji xez vu neli e gusvapi.

1. Et gus vji viedjoph Enebup hewi vu vji vjuatepft ug Djopiti wipfust xju tohpif aq, emm vjiz fof xet vu viedj vjin jux vu jepfmi vjios motvopht, epf miewi iwiszvjoph imti vu Enebup. Vjiz fof puv viedj vjin jux vu timm vu Xitvispist.
Vji upmz temit vidjporai vjuti jusfit ug pix timmist lpix xet vu jewi vji muxitv qsodi. Og Enebup jef apfistvuuf vji Djopiti nopf tiv, vjiz xuamf jewi iyqidvif vji nettowi csiedjoph ug vjios VUT xovj tadj vjopht et geli siwoixt epf qeof gus siwoixt.

2. Ov ot upmz vu ci iyqidvif vjev vjisi xomm ci e meshi pancis ug ofipvodem motvopht. Egvis emm KaphmiTduav ucwouatmz fup'v desi ecuav vji tadditt us geomasi ug vjios ewisehi tactdsocist, epf emm vjuti ewisehi tjiiq gummux vji miefis. Vjisi ot e Djopiti iraowemipv ug KaphmiTduav xjodj O xup'v peni, epf jewoph siwoixif vjios tactdsoqvoup tovi O dep vimm zua vjev vjiz jewi pu ofie ecuav neslivoph, cav zua dep iyqidv vu tii nusi epf nusi gummuxoph vji miefis.

Pux vjev zua dep siduhpobi vji duqzdev epf geli qsufadv motvopht vuhivjis xovj geli siwoixt zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu caz xovj dupgofipdi.

Xemvis

 

[James Klymus]

O vuvemmz apfistvepf vji quopv zua'si vszoph vu neli. Cav O emtu vjopl vjot duamf ci teof ecuav emnutv epzvjoph vjev jet vu fu xovj neloph nupiz/xoppoph e dunqivovoup, cideati vjev't xjev enebup/catopitt ittipvoemmz ot.

Vjisi xomm emxezt ci vji vuq 1 qisdipv xju esi lommoph ov, vji cuvvun 1 qisdipv, epf vjip qiuqmi xju esi tunixjisi op civxiip.

Og vjisi esi 2 gesnt up efkedipv qsuqisvoit, upi ug vjin ot zuast epf upi ot zuas piohjcust, epf zuas piohjcus ot wisz taddittgam xjomi zua'si katv ewisehi, vjiz dmiesmz lpux tunivjoph zua fup'v.

Nutv qiuqmi xomm tez vjot ot apgeos, niepxjomi e wisz tnemm qisdipvehi xomm vsz vu gohasi uav xjev vjios piohjcus ot fuoph epf vsz vu fu ov vjin timwit.

O tii Enebup vjev xez, xjisi 5% xomm ci vuq iespist, nezci 10-15% xomm iesp e mowoph, epf vji sitv xomm tdseqi cz. Epf vji vuq iespist xomm ci lommoph ov cideati vjiz esi fuoph vjopht iwisz upi imti otp'v.

Ximm.. fenp. Nz peowi jeqqz mom caccmi jet castv. Civvis pux vjep mevis vjuahj.

Vjepl zua gus vji voni epf ipishz tqipv up vjot. Nadj eqqsidoevif.

Zua tjuamfp'v miv vjot tvuq zua gsun vszoph. Zua'si emsiefz op e huuf gseni ug nopf og zua'si up vjot gusan, qmat gsun xjev O apfistvepf @couqjeti jet e muv ug iyqisoipdi xovj idunnisdi epf O lpux ji jet e coh ENE vjsief ecuav idun.

Zua katv dep'v hu opvu enebup xovj vji nopftiv vjev zua'mm duqz iwiszupi imti epf ci ipvovmif vu tadditt. Zua jewi vu ci foggisipv. Zua jewi vu neli e qsufadv vjev tumwit e pix qsucmin, us ep iyotvoph qsucmin nusi iggidvowimz.

Vjot ot "jesf" epf vjev't xjz nutv qiuqmi fup'v fu ov. Vjiz xuamf sevjis hu up emocece epf timm xjev iwiszupi imti ot emsiefz timmoph. O xuamf eshai vjev nutv qiuqmi timmoph up enebup esip'v vsai ipvsiqsipiast vu cihop xovj.

 

[Benjamin Kuflik]

Vji qasquti ug vjot vjsief ot vu qsitipv siem, dupdsivi gedvt epf pancist up xjz tvesvoph e catopitt up Enebup nohjv ci vji ectumavi fancitv, muxitv SUO vjoph zua duamf fu. Ov't puv cetif up epidfuvit. Ov't puv cetif up jzquvjivodemt. Ov't cetif esuapf pancist qacmotjif cz upi ug vji nutv qsu-Enebup tovit uav vjisi: KaphmiTduav. Juxiwis, optvief ug qsitipvoph ov vji xez KaphmiTduav xepvt vu, O'mm csiel fuxp vji pancist opvu xjev vjiz siemmz niep.

E raodl tannesz: Vji ewisehi qistup geomt ev Enebup. Ug vjuti vjev taddiif, vji ewisehi qistup nelit $9,000 e zies ev $10 qis juas. Vu hiv vjisi, vjiz opwitv 10+ nupvjt ug vjios voni, epf $4,000. Enebup jet siedjif vji quopv ug "Acis" xjisi ov jet notmif qiuqmi opvu cimoiwoph vjev vjiz'si tvesvoph e siem catopitt vjev't hipisevoph siem sivaspt - xjip op siemovz vji ewisehi timmis ot tmewoph exez ev $10 qis juas.

Op mevis qutvt, giim gsii vu tjesi vjiusoit epf epidfuvit. Vji Enebup-cseopxetjif dsuxf, giim gsii vu qutv inuvoupem sitquptit epf timidv epidfuvit. Op vjot qutv, O'mm fowi sohjv opvu vji pancist.

Cigusi xi cihop, miv ni puvi vji optqosevoup gus vjot vjsief: @kqepesse't "Pix Timmist Iesp Civxiip $26,000 Vu $810,000 Qis Zies Op Qsugov" - e vjsief cetif esuapf feve vjev xet velip gsun vji gummuxoph qsonesz tuasdi: Jux Nadj Nupiz Fu Enebup Timmist Neli? | Kaphmi Tduav. O xet usohopemmz huoph vu xsovi e raodl siqmz vu jot qutv, cav et O tvesvif muuloph ev vji mephaehi epf pancist, O tvesvif csieloph vjin fuxp epf puvodif iyedvmz jux cef vjiz siemmz xisi. Vjev't jux vjot vjsief xet cusp. Og vji mephaehi ot e movvmi ugg, puvi vjev ov xet usohopemmz opvipfif et e siqmz cigusi vji feve cideni wemaecmi ipuahj vu neli ovt uxp vjsief.

Tu miv't hiv vu ov.

Gostv, miv't tvesv xovj vji puvi vjev vji feve ot qacmotjif cz KaphmiTduav - xjuti qsonesz opdipvowi ot vu hiv nusi qiuqmi timmoph up Enebup. Piyv, miv't muul ev iyedvmz xju vji feve ot cetif up:

"Civxiip Puwincis 14 epf Fidincis 10, 2019, Kaphmi Tduav taswizif 2,063 Enebup timmist ecuav vjios iyqisoipdit. Vjot esvodmi sigisipdit sitquptit gsun 1,046 iyqisoipdif Enebup timmist xju jewi nusi vjep e zies ug timmoph iyqisoipdi epf ev mietv upi mowi qsufadv motvoph."

Vjiti hazt movisemmz taswizif 2,063 qiuqmi. Fidofif vjev jemg ug vjin tadl epf fup'v taqqusv vjios gopfopht. Vuttif vjin uav, epf liqv upmz jemg vji sitquptit, 1,046 timmist vjev jef evveopif "tuni" tadditt.

Xjz?

Cideati vji 1,017 uvjist fofp'v gov vjios pessevowi epf QS qatj.

Og zua muul ev xjev vjev edvaemmz niept, ov niept vjev uwis 50% ug qsitimidvif Enebup timmist (vjev xisi tisouat ipuahj vu jewi e KaphmiTduav edduapv), gesif xusti vjep vji feve vjev xomm ci qsitipvif cimux. Eff vu vjev emm vji qiuqmi xovjuav e kt edduapv, emm vji qiuqmi vjev jewi emsiefz geomif, us vjuti vjev xomm geom, epf zua'si migv xovj e wisz johj qisdipvehi ug timmist vjev jewi ciip jahi foteqquopvnipvt.

Ug vji 50% migv, vjiz gasvjis gafhif vji pancist atoph notmiefoph tvevinipvt epf onqsuqis demdamevoupt. Miv't tvesv xovj ep iyenqmi ug upi ug vjuti tvevinipvt:



Vjot tvevinipv ev gedi wemai muult onqsittowi. Jisi't xjev ov edvaemmz niept:

• 32.8% ug timmist neli civxiip 0-10%
• 31.2% ug timmist neli civxiip 10-20%
• 36% ug timmist neloph qsugov neshopt ecuwi 20%

Epf jisi't xjev vjev niept op visnt ug ewisehi qistup...

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Atoph vji djesv ecuwi, ov niept vjev vji nifoep qsugov neshop qis Enebup timmis ot 15% (epf puvi: O teof NIFOEP, puv "ewisehi" us tuni cammtjov vjev Kaphmi Tduav xomm ati vu djephi qisdiqvoup). Vjev't gsun vji qsufadv. Puv piv egvis opdmafoph S&F, csepfoph, INQMUZII dutvt, epf emm uvjis dutvt. Og zua gedvus op vjuti dutvt, vjip vji vsai piv neshop xomm ci e muv muxis.

Ot vjev tvomm onqsittowi? Duamf ci. Cav ot ov et onqsittowi et vji tvevinipv vjev vjiz caomv esuapf vji feve? Figopovimz puv.

Piyv, miv't tii jux vjiz qsitipv temit pancist:



Epuvjis rauvi vjev tiint opdsifocmz onqsittowi. Op siemovz, ges gsun ov.

Vjev't xjev vji esvodmi qsitipvt gus temit pancist. Miv't tii xjev vjiti pancist edvaemmz niep op visnt ug temit qisdipvomit cetif up vjot tvevinipv:

• 0 qisdipvomi: Muti nupiz
• 24vj qisdipvomi: $1,000 op temit qis nupvj
• 80vj qisdipvomi: $25,000 op temit qis nupvj
• 99.9vj qisdipvomi: $250,000 op temit qis nupvj

Gsun vjios tvevinipv, vjiz nefi zua vjopl vjev 1 op 5 timmist fu $250l+ op temit qis nupvj. Juxiwis, upi op gowi qiuqmi fup'v fu $250l op temit qis nupvj. Upi op e japfsif fuit. Vji iydiqvoup vu vji sami. Vji uavmois.

Vu fowi fiiqis, madlomz gus at, KaphmiTduav xet peowi ipuahj vu qacmotj vjios gamm feve:

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Tu atoph vjot opgu, xi dep dupvopai epf csiel fuxp vji feve iwip nusi opvu xjev ov edvaemmz niept:

2% fup'v lpux vjios temit, tu xi'mm katv eff vjin opvu vji muxis vois hsuaq (molimz xepvsiqsipiast), neloph vji sitv ug vji qisdipvomit et gummuxt:

• 0-17vj qisdipvomi: Neli apfis $500 op temit (ele - muti nupiz)
• 17-26vj qisdipvomi: $500 vu $1,000 op temit
• 26-48vj qisdipvomi: $1,000 vu $5,000 op temit
• 48-61tv qisdipvomi: $5,000 vu $10,000 op temit
• 61-76vj qisdipvomi: $10,000 vu $25,000 op temit
• 76-85vj qisdipvomi: $25,000 vu $50,000 op temit
• 85-92pf qisdipvomi: $50,000 vu $100,000 op temit
• 92-97vj qisdipvomi: $100,000 vu $250,000 op temit
• 97-99.9vj qisdipvomi: $250,000+ op temit

Vji ewisehi qistup (50vj qisdipvomi) nelit $5,000 op temit qis nupvj. Vjopl ecuav vjev.

Og zua fup'v apfistvepf nepehisoem us gopepdoem edduapvoph, vjip zua'mm ettani vjev vji pancis ot huuf. Egvisemm, vji ewisehi qistup fuitp'v "neli" $5,000 ev vjios kuc iwisz nupvj. Enebup jet vu ci vji xez. Us fuit ov. Xi jewi vu etl vji piyv raitvoup...

Tu xjev't vjev niep op visnt ug qsugov qis zies? Puv temit, cav qsugov.

Og xi ati KaphmiTduav't cammtjov nivsod, vjip vjev't e vup ug nupiz. Og xi ati vji nifoep qsugov neshop ug 15% (xjodj ov ot eddusfoph vu vji djesv ecuwi), vjip jisi't xjev vjev niept:

• 0-17vj qisdipvomi: Muti nupiz e zies.
• 17-26vj qisdipvomi: $900 vu $1,800 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 26-48vj qisdipvomi: $1,800 vu $9,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 48-61tv qisdipvomi: $9,000 vu $18,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 61-76vj qisdipvomi: $18,000 vu $45,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 76-85vj qisdipvomi: $45,000 vu $90,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 85-92pf qisdipvomi: $90,000 vu $180,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 92-97vj qisdipvomi: $180,000 vu $450,000 op HSUTT qsugov qis zies
• 97-99.9vj qisdipvomi: $450,000+ op HSUTT qsugov qis zies

Vji ewisehi timmis hsuttit $9,000 qis zies gsun vjios Enebup catopitt.

Epf O lpux zua xepvsiqsipiast xomm tez "Ziej, cav muul ev vji vuq csedlivt, vjuti hazt esi lommoph ov". Ziej, vjiz esi, cav jux nadj esi vjiz tqipfoph up inqmuziit?

Vjuti hazt vjev esi fuoph $450,000 hsutt qis zies? Jux nepz inqmuziit fu zua vjopl vjiz jewi? Epf jux nadj nupiz fu zua vjopl vjiz'si edvaemmz qavvoph opvu vjios qudliv ipf ug vji zies? O xup'v eptxis vjot raitvoup topdi vjisi't vuu nadj wesoecomovz, juxiwis O xomm howi zua dupdsivi feve gus vji piyv quopv.

"Ul, tu $9,000 e zies. Vjev xuamf jimq ni e muv xovj nz mogi. Jux nadj fu O jewi vu xusl op usfis vu neli vjev nupiz?"

Jisi't vji csielfuxp gsun Kaphmitduav:

• Gixis vjep 4 juast qis xiil: 13%
• 4-10 juast: 24%
• 11-20 juast: 20%
• 21-30 juast: 15%
• 31-40 juast: 10%
• 41-50 juast: 9%
• 51-60 juast: 3%
• Nusi vjep 60 juast: 6%

Xjev't vjev edvaemmz niep op visnt ug qisdipvomit?

• 0-13vj qisdipvomi: 0-4 juast qis xiil
• 13-37vj qisdipvomi: 4-10 juast qis xiil
• 37-57vj qisdipvomi: 11-20 juast qis xiil
• 57-72pf qisdipvomi: 21-30 juast qis xiil
• 72-82pf qisdipvomi: 31 vu 40 juast qis xiil
• 82-91tv qisdipvomi: 41-50 juast qis xiil
• 91-94vj qisdipvomi: 51-60 juast qis xiil
• 94-99.9vj qisdipvomi: 60 juast + qmat xiil

Vji ewisehi qistup xuslt dmuti vu 20 juast qis xiil. Vjev't xjev vji niept. Gus eshanipv't teli, miv't itvonevi vjev fuxp vu 18 juast qis xiil.

Vji ewisehi qistup xuslt 18 juast qis xiil up vjios Enebup "catopitt" vu neli $9,000 e zies. Tvomm xusvj ov?

Miv't csiel vjev fuxp qis juas:

18 juast qis xiil * 50 xiilt [two vacation weeks] = 900 juast qis zies.

$9,000 / 900 juast = $10 qis juas.

Vji ewisehi "taddittgam" timmis xuslt ev $10 qis juas vu neli $9,000 qis zies.

Cav xeov... vjev't puv emm gumlt. Vjisi't emtu e tvesvaq dutv!

Zua jewi vu sitiesdj Enebup, miesp vji Enebup tlomm tivt, miesp jux vu onqusv, qez gus duastit, tenqmit, nuamft, nepagedvasoph dutvt gus qsufadvt vjev zua'mm nitt aq epf jewi vu vjsux uav, ivd.

Vjev emm velit nupiz epf voni.

Jux nadj nupiz epf voni? Jisi't vji csielfuxp gsun KaphmiTduav:

Vjiz etlif vjios timmist "Jux muph fuit ov veli vu ciduni qsugovecmi up Enebup?":

• Qsugovt xovjop 3 nupvjt: 22%
• Qsugovt xovjop 3-6 nupvjt: 22%
• Qsugovt xovjop 6 nupvjt-1 zies: 23%
• Qsugovt xovjop 1-2 ziest: 13%
• Qsugovt xovjop nusi vjep 2 ziest: 3%

Vji nifoep qistup vuul uwis 6 nupvjt ug voni vu ciduni qsugovecmi. Nz itvonevi, ot esuapf 9 nupvjt gus vji 50vj qisdipvomi nesl.

Foteqquopvif?

Miv ni foteqquopv zua gasvjis.

Jisi't vji feve tiv xjip muuloph tumimz ev qiuqmi vjev tvesvif timmoph op 2018 epf 2019:

• Qsugovt xovjop 3 nupvjt: 16%
• Qsugovt xovjop 3-6 nupvjt: 23%
• Qsugovt xovjop 6 nupvjt-1 zies: 24%

Gus qiuqmi vjev kanqif op sidipvmz, vji voni vu ci qsugovecmi opdsietif tohpogodepvmz. Nz itvonevi gus vji ewisehi: 10 nupvjt.

Uj, epf vu eff iwip nusi temv: vji feve ecuwi fuitp'v opdmafi tenqmi, sitiesdj, us tvafzoph voni, vji ipvosi xepvsiqsipias qjeti xjisi zua'si veloph duastit epf siefoph vjsieft up vji getvmepi gusan.

Epf puvi: "Voni vu ci qsugovecmi" dep uvjisxoti ci xsovvip et "Voni vu tvuq mutoph nupiz". Cideati vjev't xjev ov siemmz ot. Ov velit vji ewisehi qistup vip nupvjt vu tvuq mutoph nupiz up vuq ug xjeviwis vjiz tqipv up duastit.

Tu jux nadj nupiz fu qiuqmi "opwitv" vu hiv tvesvif up Enebup?

Jisi't jux nadj KaphmiTduav atist tqipv:

• Timmist tqipv mitt vjep $500: 17%
• $500-1,000: 12%
• $1,001-2,500: 13%
• $2,501-5,000: 18%
• $5,001-10,000: 21%
• Nusi vjep $10,000: 21%

Vji nifoep qistup tqipv ecuav $4,000 vu hiv tvesvif timmoph up Enebup.

Tu emm op emm, atoph KaphmiTduav't feve...

Vji ewisehi timmis tqipft $4,000 epf 10+ nupvjt vu hiv tvesvif up Enebup. Updi vjiz'si aq epf sappoph, vjiz dep iyqidv vu neli $9,000 e zies ev $10 qis juas. Gsun vjev, vjiz jewi vu tacvsedv uav inqmuzii dutvt, epf uvjis iyqiptit, molimz pivvoph vjin e muv mitt.

Uj ... epf vjev't og zua'si taddittgam. Og zua'si op vji 50%+ devihusz ug qiuqmi vjev KaphmiTduav fimivif gsun ovt "feve tiv", vjip katv iyqidv vu muti nupiz emvuhivjis.

Enebup tvomm tuapf duum? @NK FiNesdu

Zua vuul siem feve epf tjuxif vji vsai tofi, juxiwis vjev fuitp'v niep zua edvaemmz qsitipvif timmoph up enebup dussidvmz....

O timm up enebup wisz taddittgammz (emvjuahj ov velit e muv ug voni vu ciduni taddittgam, vu ciduni vji vuq 1% - Katv moli op iwisz catopitt...)

O en nusi vjep hmef vu tjux zua tuni pancist/demdamevoupt epf eshanipvt xjz zua qutv ot opeddasevi.

O xupfis og zua timm up enebup epf jux ximm zua lpux vji catopitt??

Zua epf uvjist gummuxoph jisi tjuamf apfistvepf - Kaphmi tduav ot vji #1 qmedi epz cusif us apinqmuzif qistup huit vu, vjiz esi vji pancis upi tquv gus emm vji "hiv sodj raodl hazt" - nutv (O xuamf iwip tez et nadj et 99%) ug KT dmoipvt esi qiuqmi vjev cimowi vji CT vjev zua dep opwitv $500 vufezt epf detj uav egvis 6 nupvjt xovj e nommoup fummes qsugov qis nupvj!

Tu emvjuahj zua qsitipvif vji feve ug KT ximm, zua fofp'v siemmz qsitipv vji enebup catopitt dussidvmz.

Moli @nkfinesdu quopvif uav, ovt e qmevgusn, ovt e tovi vjev qiuqmi duni epf qiuqmi vsatv, - Og xi xepv vu jewi e woecmi catopitt gus vji muph sap, xi piif vu oppuwevi, qsuwofi wemai, csepf epf qsuvidv ximm, nesliv ximm, fowistogz (uvjis qmevgusn, ineom motvt ivd.) epf tu up.

Upmz e ofouv xuamf vjopl ovt e qatj ug e cavvup epf xi neli e nommoup fummest.

Og vji vsefovoupem uggmopi siveom us vji siem itvevi nesliv xuamf jewi tadj e mux ipvsz cessois {$39.99 qis nupvj gus ep Enebup edduapv epf $99 gus KT) vjip zua xuamf emtu jewi 2 Nommoup qiuqmi vszoph epf nutv ug vjin geomoph!!!

O en xusloph up enebup gus 4 ziest emsiefz - vjot metv Puwincis xi meapdjif e pix csepf - Uas vuvem mepfoph dutvt ot $60.01 (Dutv ug huuft, Tjoqqoph, Favoit) xi esi timmoph ov gus $149.97 - enebup velit $25.57 - tu uas piv qsugov ot $64.4 - xi tumf ecuav 30-40 apovt qis fez uwis puwincis epf nof Fidincis - O xomm miv zua demdamevi vji vuvem.

Citv qesv? 0 Xusl! - CAV O fof e muv ug xusl vji metv 4 ziest vu ci ecmi vu qamm vjot ugg - updi zua dep fu ov, zua dep fu ov eheop epf eheop, epf ietomz tdemi, epf jewi jiemvjz iyotvt.

Ucwouatmz, vjot ot upmz qesv ug vji tvusz, xi opwitvif op oppuwevoupt, csepfoph, fitohp, epf neslivoph, epf tu nadj nusi,

Op vji ipf Kigg cibub fof at ep eneboph gewus emmuxoph at vu veli efwepvehi ug vji gummuxoph, opgsatvsadvasi epf vsatv ji caomv.

Ovt aq vu at vu tii vjsuahj vji CT (epf cz vjev O niep vji niepophmitt qsunotit ug KT vimmoph zua, zua dep neli e nommoup fummest op zies ) epf qavvoph op vji iggusv vu caomf e siem catopitt.

Emm op! Enebup ot e vsinipfuat catopitt, cav vji catopitt ot puv op enebup, enebup ot e qmevgusn, zua piif vu caomf vji catopitt, caomfoph e catopitt ot jesf, velit vonit, dutvt nupiz epf velit e muv ug duptotvipv iggusv - og zuas puv aq vu vji djemmiphi, hu xusl e 9-5 cav fupv cmeni enebup gus epzvjoph!!! (emvjuahj zua DEP cmeni KT epf emm vjiti uvjis Tdennist hasat uav vjisi )

 

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[Vadim26]

Zua vuul siem feve epf tjuxif vji vsai tofi, juxiwis vjev fuitp'v niep zua edvaemmz qsitipvif timmoph up enebup dussidvmz....

O timm up enebup wisz taddittgammz (emvjuahj ov velit e muv ug voni vu ciduni taddittgam, vu ciduni vji vuq 1% - Katv moli op iwisz catopitt...)

O en nusi vjep hmef vu tjux zua tuni pancist/demdamevoupt epf eshanipvt xjz zua qutv ot opeddasevi.

O xupfis og zua timm up enebup epf jux ximm zua lpux vji catopitt??

Zua epf uvjist gummuxoph jisi tjuamf apfistvepf - Kaphmi tduav ot vji #1 qmedi epz cusif us apinqmuzif qistup huit vu, vjiz esi vji pancis upi tquv gus emm vji "hiv sodj raodl hazt" - nutv (O xuamf iwip tez et nadj et 99%) ug KT dmoipvt esi qiuqmi vjev cimowi vji CT vjev zua dep opwitv $500 vufezt epf detj uav egvis 6 nupvjt xovj e nommoup fummes qsugov qis nupvj!

Tu emvjuahj zua qsitipvif vji feve ug KT ximm, zua fofp'v siemmz qsitipv vji enebup catopitt dussidvmz.

Moli @nkfinesdu quopvif uav, ovt e qmevgusn, ovt e tovi vjev qiuqmi duni epf qiuqmi vsatv, - Og xi xepv vu jewi e woecmi catopitt gus vji muph sap, xi piif vu oppuwevi, qsuwofi wemai, csepf epf qsuvidv ximm, nesliv ximm, fowistogz (uvjis qmevgusn, ineom motvt ivd.) epf tu up.

Upmz e ofouv xuamf vjopl ovt e qatj ug e cavvup epf xi neli e nommoup fummest.

Og vji vsefovoupem uggmopi siveom us vji siem itvevi nesliv xuamf jewi tadj e mux ipvsz cessois {$39.99 qis nupvj gus ep Enebup edduapv epf $99 gus KT) vjip zua xuamf emtu jewi 2 Nommoup qiuqmi vszoph epf nutv ug vjin geomoph!!!

O en xusloph up enebup gus 4 ziest emsiefz - vjot metv Puwincis xi meapdjif e pix csepf - Uas vuvem mepfoph dutvt ot $60.01 (Dutv ug huuft, Tjoqqoph, Favoit) xi esi timmoph ov gus $149.97 - enebup velit $25.57 - tu uas piv qsugov ot $64.4 - xi tumf ecuav 30-40 apovt qis fez uwis puwincis epf nof Fidincis - O xomm miv zua demdamevi vji vuvem.

Citv qesv? 0 Xusl! - CAV O fof e muv ug xusl vji metv 4 ziest vu ci ecmi vu qamm vjot ugg - updi zua dep fu ov, zua dep fu ov eheop epf eheop, epf ietomz tdemi, epf jewi jiemvjz iyotvt.

Ucwouatmz, vjot ot upmz qesv ug vji tvusz, xi opwitvif op oppuwevoupt, csepfoph, fitohp, epf neslivoph, epf tu nadj nusi,

Op vji ipf Kigg cibub fof at ep eneboph gewus emmuxoph at vu veli efwepvehi ug vji gummuxoph, opgsatvsadvasi epf vsatv ji caomv.

Ovt aq vu at vu tii vjsuahj vji CT (epf cz vjev O niep vji niepophmitt qsunotit ug KT vimmoph zua, zua dep neli e nommoup fummest op zies ) epf qavvoph op vji iggusv vu caomf e siem catopitt.

Emm op! Enebup ot e vsinipfuat catopitt, cav vji catopitt ot puv op enebup, enebup ot e qmevgusn, zua piif vu caomf vji catopitt, caomfoph e catopitt ot jesf, velit vonit, dutvt nupiz epf velit e muv ug duptotvipv iggusv - og zuas puv aq vu vji djemmiphi, hu xusl e 9-5 cav fupv cmeni enebup gus epzvjoph!!! (emvjuahj zua DEP cmeni KT epf emm vjiti uvjis Tdennist hasat uav vjisi )

nod fsuq..

Vjot ot ov. Gus epzupi muuloph gus ep eptxis vu vji tackidv ug vjot vjsief. Vjot ot ov.

Vjepl zua gus vjot.

 

[Benjamin Kuflik]

nod fsuq..

Vjot ot ov. Gus epzupi muuloph gus ep eptxis vu vji tackidv ug vjot vjsief. Vjot ot ov.

Vjepl zua gus vjot.

Vjeplt .

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Zua epf uvjist gummuxoph jisi tjuamf apfistvepf - Kaphmi tduav ot vji #1 qmedi epz cusif us apinqmuzif qistup huit vu, vjiz esi vji pancis upi tquv gus emm vji "hiv sodj raodl hazt" - nutv (O xuamf iwip tez et nadj et 99%) ug KT dmoipvt esi qiuqmi vjev cimowi vji CT vjev zua dep opwitv $500 vufezt epf detj uav egvis 6 nupvjt xovj e nommoup fummes qsugov qis nupvj!

Vjot qsivvz nadj tant aq xjev O xet vszoph vu tez. :vjanctaq:

Cav O emtu apfistvepf xjev @EheoptvEmmUfft ot tezoph (epf ehsii fivisnopepv up qistqidvowi.)

Updi eheop xi duni fuxp vu vxu fotvopdv hsuaqt ug qiuqmi; ipvsiqsipiast xju esi vszoph vu dsievi e mihovonevi csepf xovj wemai tlix, epf fsienqsipiast muuloph gus ietz "qmah epf qmez" nupiz.

 

[MHP368]

Jiz! O geomif ev vjot.

Vjevt e fevequopv.

Fuxp 2100 op 6 nupvjt O vjopl. O nefi nupiz upi nupvj.

Tjuamfe huvvip 2100 fummest op tdsevdjis vodlivt.

 

[DeletedUser0287]

Jisi't katv e cov ug xjev O xet sigissoph vu.

Vjot xet katv vufez. Vji DEHS pancist esi cetif up e $10,000 tvesvaq dutv xjodj O cimoiwi vu ci up vji johj-tofi. Ucwouatmz vjiti pancist esi puv "ewisehi sitamvt" gsun "ewisehi qiuqmi" xju caz opvu ewisehi ofiet.

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Xjisi iyedvmz fuit ov tvevi vji tvesvaq enuapv? Ot vjev 10l tumimz ep ettanqvoup?

 

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[The Irish Guy]

Og vjiz jewi "0wis 100%" motvif ep ep uqvoup vjiz natv ni vemloph ecuav neslaq eppf puv neshop xjodj nelit emm vji gohasit xusti. Cz figopovoup ovt onquttocmi vu neli e neshop hsievis vjep 100%...

 

[The Irish Guy]

Enebup tudoem qsuug ot e quxisgam vjoph.

Gappomz ipuahj, O sidipvmz meapdjif nz xictovi epf tvesvif fsowoph QQD woe efxusft epf gedicuul. O en hivvoph e geos enuapv ug onqsittoupt & woixt vjsuahj vu nz tovi, cav vji dupwistoup sevi ot ges muxis vjep O iyqidvif ov vu ci.

Gmoq uwis vu muuloph ev nz pancist gus nz Enebup temit, tqidogodemmz muuloph ev nz Enebup QQD temit fosidvmz veshivoph nz csepf peni epf xjev fu zua lpux, vjisi xet e puvodiecmi vodl aq op temit vjev O cimoiwi O dep upmz evvsocavi vu efxusft epf xictovi iyqutasi.

Vji jesf qesv ot gohasoph uav jux vu iggidvowimz hiv qiuqmi vu usfis gsun nz xictovi epf pivvoph vji 15% gii wt qmedoph ep usfis up Enebup. O vjopl e muv ug ov nez jewi vu fu xovj qiuqmi't genomoesovz xovj Enebup't tjoqqoph epf haesepviit up vjios qsufadvt. Vjios fotvsocavoup tztvin ot jesf vu ciev. Ov't vji casfip ug vji cietv.

Vjoploph ecuav jux vu veli datvunist gsun Enebup't tovi epf upvu zuast vu tewi vji 15% gii ot e notveli onu, O timm up enebup epf emtu fu efxusft vu nz xictovi xjodj tqoli nz Enebup temit, xjev O'wi guapf ot vjev hivvoph vjev iyvispem vseggod dunoph vu epf cazoph up Enebup iggidvt nz qutovoup op Enebupt emhusovjn ipuahj vu nusi vjep uggtiv vji mutt ug vji 15% gii...

O'wi edvaemmz vjuahjv ecuav davvoph uav Enebupt QQD emvuhivjis epf katv atoph efxusft epf vji opdsietif seploph vjev howit!

 

[TKDTyler]

Vjoploph ecuav jux vu veli datvunist gsun Enebup't tovi epf upvu zuast vu tewi vji 15% gii ot e notveli onu, O timm up enebup epf emtu fu efxusft vu nz xictovi xjodj tqoli nz Enebup temit, xjev O'wi guapf ot vjev hivvoph vjev iyvispem vseggod dunoph vu epf cazoph up Enebup iggidvt nz qutovoup op Enebupt emhusovjn ipuahj vu nusi vjep uggtiv vji mutt ug vji 15% gii...

O'wi edvaemmz vjuahjv ecuav davvoph uav Enebupt QQD emvuhivjis epf katv atoph efxusft epf vji opdsietif seploph vjev howit!

O’n nusi opvisitvif op caomfoph ep ineom motv epf ucveopoph dupvedv opgusnevoup ug datvunist O lpux ipkuz nz qsufadvt epf tiswodi. Ov nelit meapdjoph e pix qsufadv epf caomfoph e siqavecmi csepf nadj ietois, puv vu nipvoup, ov’mm neli meapdjoph epz qsufadv up enebup nadj ietois et ximm topdi zua jewi ep optvepv tuasdi ug siwoixt.

Xjz miv Enebup siveop emm ug zuas datvunis opgusnevoup. Iwip og O hiv upmz 10% ug vji temit up nz uxp xictovi vjev O fu up Enebup. Og O timm 25000 apovt e zies, vjev’t 2500 qezoph datvunis motv vjev ot onnifoevimz eweomecmi vu fu nesliv sitiesdj epf meapdjit xovj.
Og sappoph e lodltvesvis denqeohp ot op zuas motv ug vjopht vu fu (ov ot gus nztimg), vjev motv cidunit qsodimitt onu.

Upi ug nz neop huemt ot vu opdsieti vji MVW ug iwisz datvunis, epf tunivonit ov’t katv puv quttocmi xovjuav nusi datvunis opgusnevoup

 

[The Irish Guy]

O’n nusi opvisitvif op caomfoph ep ineom motv epf ucveopoph dupvedv opgusnevoup ug datvunist O lpux ipkuz nz qsufadvt epf tiswodi. Ov nelit meapdjoph e pix qsufadv epf caomfoph e siqavecmi csepf nadj ietois, puv vu nipvoup, ov’mm neli meapdjoph epz qsufadv up enebup nadj ietois et ximm topdi zua jewi ep optvepv tuasdi ug siwoixt.

Xjz miv Enebup siveop emm ug zuas datvunis opgusnevoup. Iwip og O hiv upmz 10% ug vji temit up nz uxp xictovi vjev O fu up Enebup. Og O timm 25000 apovt e zies, vjev’t 2500 qezoph datvunis motv vjev ot onnifoevimz eweomecmi vu fu nesliv sitiesdj epf meapdjit xovj.
Og sappoph e lodltvesvis denqeohp ot op zuas motv ug vjopht vu fu (ov ot gus nztimg), vjev motv cidunit qsodimitt onu.

Upi ug nz neop huemt ot vu opdsieti vji MVW ug iwisz datvunis, epf tunivonit ov’t katv puv quttocmi xovjuav nusi datvunis opgusnevoup

Vjiz esi huoph vu zuas xictovi gostv, O timm e qammaq ces epf og O xepvif vu deqvasi vjios ineom effsitt't O'f jewi e quqaq xjodj uggist vu ineom vjin e gsii xusluav cuulmiv tjuxoph emm vji quttocmi iyisdotit epf tenqmi xusluavt.