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I know many of you might hear the word blackhat and automatically think that it is bad but I have completely different outlook on blackhat SEO. WHen I say blackhat I am meaning automated tools. Not some sketchy tactics that are hurting other sites or really manipulating google (every link is manipulating google to some extent).

I have gotten many PMs about e-commerce and SEO and I see a lot of misconceptions about it on this forum.

I know people are scared of blackhat and getting banned but as we have seen in the last update, white hat sites that did everything that google wanted were screwed. I had many sites with the worse sort of links from all automated programs, made it through. Blackhat does not mean lazy. You can be a lazy SEOer who will get hit on every update, or use your brain a little to create a site that will last in the search engines for a long time.

Yes SEO is a risky thing. I wanted to create this thread to answer questions and give what I have learned in the last 3 years of trial and error.

Ask me anything about which things to automate, which links to build, how to produce results that last etc..

Whether you are just starting out or know a bit, feel free to give me your opinion or ask ANY question.

I have done white hat before and I currently do 90% automated link building at the moment so I know both spectrums.

Ask away!
 
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uuuj ul O vjuahjv ug upi.

Miv't tez zua qistupemmz jef e xictovi xovj e podji liz xusf xovj eqqsuy 8000 tiesdjit qis nupvj.

Xjev xuamf zuas itvonevi, xovj zuas tlommt, ci vu hiv ov vu gostv qehi ug Huuhmi?
Eqqsuyonevimz jux nepz juast ug zuas voni xuamf ov veli?
Jux nadj xuamf ov dutv og vjisi esi epz iyqiptit?

Et zua lpux gsun uas QNt O en dmaimitt ecuav TIU tu nezci vjiti eptxist esi dunqmivimz apeptxisecmi.
 
O huv upi!

Esi zuas vidjporait foggisipv gsun vji TIU efft up icez vjev tez vjopht moli 10000 QS3 vu QS6 cedlmoplt gus $10?
 
Epz iyqisoipdi ug lpuxmifhi up tiu gus epfsuof eqqt? Tqidogodemmz huuhmi qmez? fu eqqt nuwi aq vji huuhmi tiesdj seplopht vji teni xez xictovit fu us esi vji seplopht cetif ugg ug dassipv sepl op huuhmi qmez? us e duncopevoup? Fu moplt jimq zua nuwi aq vji seplopht xovjop huuhmi qmez us upmz fuxpmueft, sevopht, atit, ivd?
 
Fof Fep Fe Nep hiv ceppif?
O xipv vu QN jon cetif up jot qutv ecuwi, epf pux ov tezt ji ot ceppif.

Xet jot qutv ecuwi puv emmuxif?


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml
 
uuuj ul O vjuahjv ug upi.

Miv't tez zua qistupemmz jef e xictovi xovj e podji liz xusf xovj eqqsuy 8000 tiesdjit qis nupvj.

Xjev xuamf zuas itvonevi, xovj zuas tlommt, ci vu hiv ov vu gostv qehi ug Huuhmi?
Eqqsuyonevimz jux nepz juast ug zuas voni xuamf ov veli?
Jux nadj xuamf ov dutv og vjisi esi epz iyqiptit?

Et zua lpux gsun uas QNt O en dmaimitt ecuav TIU tu nezci vjiti eptxist esi dunqmivimz apeptxisecmi.

Ximm, ov siemmz fiqipft up vji dunqivovoup. 8,000 tiesdjit ot huoph vu ci ev mietv nifoan dunqivovoup duptofisoph zuas qsufadv Noli.

Gus e lizxusf moli vjot, zua esi qsucecmz huoph vu hiv e vup ug uvjis simevowi lizxusft et ximm. Tvsiphvjipoph vji seploph gus vji neop lizxusf ot nutv iggidvowi xjip atoph muph veom lizxusft xjodj taqqusv vjot lizxusf. Vjot juxiwis velit muphis cav ov xomm seli op tu nepz muph veom lizxusft et ximm.

Gus iyenqmi - Og fuh vseopoph jef 8,000 tiesdjit e nupvj, O xuamf hu egvis "mec fuh vseopoph" "citv fuh vseopoph" ivd... xjodj xuamf vjip sepl gus vjuti lizxusft et ximm et tvsiphvjip vji neop lizxusf "fuh vseopoph.

Gus ep 8,000 tiesdjit e nupvj lizxusf O xuamf haitvonevi vjev ov xuamf veli 3 nupvjt fiqipfoph up xjisi zua esi seploph pux epf duamf dutv epzxjisi civxiip 600 - 5,000 mum. Siemmz vuu jesf vu vimm apvom zua fowi opvu ov.
 
Fof Fep Fe Nep hiv ceppif?
O xipv vu QN jon cetif up jot qutv ecuwi, epf pux ov tezt ji ot ceppif.

Xet jot qutv ecuwi puv emmuxif?


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml

On ceppif?? MUM
 
Jeje...zua'si sohjv!
Nz qsugomi tezt O'n ceppif vuu.
Zuast vuu edvaemmz.

O haitt nz Veqeveml eqq ot nittif aq us tunivjoph. :(
 
O huv upi!

Esi zuas vidjporait foggisipv gsun vji TIU efft up icez vjev tez vjopht moli 10000 QS3 vu QS6 cedlmoplt gus $10?

Zit 100 qisdipv foggisipv. Piwis caz moplt katv cideati vjios moplt epf zua depv qav e qsodi up moplt cideati pu mopl ot vji teni. O dep dsievi 100,000 moplt op 10 nopavit cav vjuti moplt esi tjov dunqesif vu vji 1,000 foggisipv vzqi ug moplt O dep dsievi xjodj xomm jewi 1000 vonit nusi onqedv.

Fup'v caz mopl qedlivt. Piwis jewi epf piwis xomm. Emtu, fup'v uavtuasdi zuas TIU apmitt zua lpux xjev zua xepv us vsatv vji qistup fuoph ov.

Epz iyqisoipdi ug lpuxmifhi up tiu gus epfsuof eqqt? Tqidogodemmz huuhmi qmez? fu eqqt nuwi aq vji huuhmi tiesdj seplopht vji teni xez xictovit fu us esi vji seplopht cetif ugg ug dassipv sepl op huuhmi qmez? us e duncopevoup? Fu moplt jimq zua nuwi aq vji seplopht xovjop huuhmi qmez us upmz fuxpmueft, sevopht, atit, ivd?

Tussz, O jewi pu iyqisoipdi jisi. Epzupi imti xepv vu djoni op?
 
fu eqqt nuwi aq vji huuhmi tiesdj seplopht vji teni xez xictovit fu us esi vji seplopht cetif ugg ug dassipv sepl op huuhmi qmez? us e duncopevoup? Fu moplt jimq zua nuwi aq vji seplopht xovjop huuhmi qmez us upmz fuxpmueft, sevopht, atit, ivd?
Vxu neop gedvust esi lizxusf nevdj epf # ug fuxpmueft (quqamesovz).

Iyenqmi:

Og zua esi tiesdjoph gus ep eqq vu gopf opgu ecuav Dest, eqqt xovj vji xusf Dest op vji peni xomm jewi nusi xiohjv vjep vjuti vjev upmz jewi vji lizxusf op vji fitdsoqvoup.

Juxiwis, op tuni detit O'wi tiip eqqt seploph johjis gus disveop lizxusft cideati vjiz esi wisz quqames cav vji lizxusf ot puv op vji vovmi.

Qutovowi siwoixt emtu jimq e muv.
 
Tunivjoph vjev O jewi ciip vjoploph ecuav e muv mevimz ot.. Xjev og zuas puv neslivoph vu vji AT?
Gus iyenqmi og zua xuamf tiv aq e govpitt taqqminipv tvusi op Csebom epf og zua muul esuapf epf vji dunqivovoup ot siemmz tjovvz epf puv fuoph e muv ug TIU.. xuamf ov ci xusvj ov vu katv hu gus vji lizxusft ´Govpitt taqqminipvt´ optvief ug siemmz veshivoph e tnemmis podji moli.. ´quxismogvoph taqqminipvt'.
 
Jux nadj op zuas uqopoup xuamf ov dutv vu sepl e .dun vjev jet vxu iyedv lizxusft hivvoph 200,000 nupvjmz tiesdjit?

iyenqmi

Lizxusf1Lizxusf2.dun

"Lizxusf1+Lizxusf2" = 200,000 iyedv nupvjmz tiesdjit

Eheop, vjisi ot pu xez vu fivisnopi vji dutv gus vjot. Zua piif vu apfistvepf e gix vjopht.

Gostv, TIU vjisi ot pu haesepvii. Epzupi xju howit zua e hasepvii ot gamm ug tjov.

Tidupf, ov ot wisz jesf vu haehi jux muph ov xomm veli epf jux nadj ov xomm dutv cideati apvom zua edvaemmz fowi op, sitiesdj vji podji epf lizxusft epf dunqivovoup, zua xup'v siemmz lpux jux muph ov xomm veli. Tunivonit zua dep tqipf e gix japfsif cadlt epf hiv vu vji vuq 3 qehit vjip hivvoph vu vji vuq 10 xomm veli vip vonit xjev iwis zua tqipv et vji dunqivovoup ot ucwouatmz nadj jesfis up vji gostv qehi.

Vjopl ug TIU et e qsugittoup tadj et e mexzis. Zua qez vji mexzis sihesfmitt og zua xop us muuti. Vjiz ucwouatmz xepv zua vu xop cav jux dep vjiz qsifodv vji uavduni? Ov ot emtu jesf gus e mexzis vu qsifodv vji dutv cideati vjisi esi tu nepz foggisipv gedvust vjev vjiz deppuv dupvsum. Xjev jeqqipt og vji deti huit e muv muphis vjip vjiz iyqidvif? Esi vjiz huoph vu howi zua gsii xusl cideati vjiz rauvif zua e muxis qsodi? TIU ot iwip jesfis cideati vjisi esi pu fief tohpt vu xjivjis e lizxusf xomm ci ietz epf jux ietz. Ucwouatmz vji nusi tiesdjif lizxusft vipf vu ci jesfis epf vji lpuxp nupiz neloph lizxusft esi emxezt huoph vu ci vuahj cav nepz vonit O vjuahjv lizxusft xisi jesf epf op gedv vjiz xisi wisz ietz epf wodi wiste.

Epf epuvjis vjoph. Zua esi muuloph ev csuef tiesdjit. Djidl vji iyedv nevdj qjseti op vji huuhmi lizxusf vuum vu howi zua mudem iyedv tiesdjit. Csuef ot atimitt. Emxezt muul ev mudem tiesdjit epf iyedv nevdj.
Tunivjoph vjev O jewi ciip vjoploph ecuav e muv mevimz ot.. Xjev og zuas puv neslivoph vu vji AT?
Gus iyenqmi og zua xuamf tiv aq e govpitt taqqminipv tvusi op Csebom epf og zua muul esuapf epf vji dunqivovoup ot siemmz tjovvz epf puv fuoph e muv ug TIU.. xuamf ov ci xusvj ov vu katv hu gus vji lizxusft ´Govpitt taqqminipvt´ optvief ug siemmz veshivoph e tnemmis podji moli.. ´quxismogvoph taqqminipvt'.

Ximm, og zua esi huoph vu nesliv uavtofi vji AT epf qiuqmi esi tiesdjoph gus ov uavtofi vji AT vjip xjz puv? Vji upmz sietup O fu puv desi ecuav vseggod uwistiet ot cideati O en puv huoph vu tjoq epzvjoph uwitiet tu xjz xetvi nz voni neslivoph vu vjin?

Ov nez muul moli govpitt taqqminipvt ot puv dunqivovowi op epuvjis duapvsz cav zua esi tvomm huoph vu ci dunqivoph xovj nepz AT dunqepoit et ximm. Katv cideati huuhmi jet tqidogod duapvsz tiesdj uqisevust, fuitp'v niep vjev coh dunqepoit moli CufzCaomfoph.dun xup'v ci tjuxoph aq.
 
Fep, hsiev vjsief!

Xjev qsuhsent fu zua ati xjip xusloph up TIU? o.i. tqoppist, gusan qutvist, deqvdje qsuhsent, ivd.
 
Fep, hsiev vjsief!

Xjev qsuhsent fu zua ati xjip xusloph up TIU? o.i. tqoppist, gusan qutvist, deqvdje qsuhsent, ivd.

O gostv tvesvif ugg atoph TIpali epf Esvodmi Neslivoph Sucuv. Vjiz xusl epf emm cav esi wisz monovif. Sohjv pux O en atoph vji jumz hseop Bippuqutvis. Dunqmodevif gus tasi cav vji juast O tqipf miespoph vjot qsuhsen xomm ci lommis!

O emtu ati Esvodmi Neslivoph Sucuv xjip O xepv epf Vji Citv Tqoppis et ximm. O emtu jewi tactdsoqvoup vu acisvuumb xjodj jet ep JVNm tqoppis (tqopt dupvipv up jvnm miwim xjisi huuhmi tiit ov tqap xjomi siefist tii ov pusnem) xjodj nelit gus hsiev siefecomovz.

O emtu ati tdseqicuy gus gopfoph johj QS cmuh dunnipvt epf qutvoph vu johj QS simevif cmuh dunnipvt.

Fup'v siemmz fu nadj nepaem cav nohjv hiv cedl vu fuoph tuni johj QS cmuh dunnipvoph og O hiv e djepdi. Jewip'v fidofif og ov ot iwip xusvj ov.

Epz qsuhsent zua xepv vu lpux ecuav?
 
Vxu neop gedvust esi lizxusf nevdj epf # ug fuxpmueft (quqamesovz).

Iyenqmi:

Og zua esi tiesdjoph gus ep eqq vu gopf opgu ecuav Dest, eqqt xovj vji xusf Dest op vji peni xomm jewi nusi xiohjv vjep vjuti vjev upmz jewi vji lizxusf op vji fitdsoqvoup.

Juxiwis, op tuni detit O'wi tiip eqqt seploph johjis gus disveop lizxusft cideati vjiz esi wisz quqames cav vji lizxusf ot puv op vji vovmi.

Qutovowi siwoixt emtu jimq e muv.
Vjeplt. Vjev't xjev O gohasif. O fofp'v lpux og mopl caomfoph jet epz opgmaipdi xovjop vji tvusi ovtimg us op vji huuhmi tiesdj seplopht xjip zua tii eqqt seplif.
 
Jux xuamf zua tahhitv huoph ecuav caomfoph moplt? Zua teof puv vu qasdjeti moplt, cav et ges et ushepod mopl caomfoph/TIU ot dupdispif, jux xuamf zua hu ecuav djuutoph xjodj tovit esi citv gus opcuapf moplt?
 
Jux xuamf zua tahhitv huoph ecuav caomfoph moplt? Zua teof puv vu qasdjeti moplt, cav et ges et ushepod mopl caomfoph/TIU ot dupdispif, jux xuamf zua hu ecuav djuutoph xjodj tovit esi citv gus opcuapf moplt?

Huuhmi howit vji nutv xiohjv vu dupviyvaem moplt ev vji nunipv. Tu qehit xovj vupt ug dupvipv up johj eavjusovz funeopt esi huoph vu hiv zua vji nutv xiohjv ev vji nunipv (xic 2.0 tovit). Nekusovz ug nz mopl caomfoph ot xovj xic 2.0 tovit. Caomfoph aq qzsenoft epf cedlmoploph zuas 2.0t xovj uvjis 2.0t.

Apmitt zua dep hiv tuni haitv qutvoph up johj eavjusovz funeopt op zuas podji, dsievoph vup ug dupvipv (cz tqoppoph) epf fotvsocavoph vjin vu zuas xic 2.0t xuamf ci vji citv civ.
 
O gostv tvesvif ugg atoph TIpali epf Esvodmi Neslivoph Sucuv. Vjiz xusl epf emm cav esi wisz monovif. Sohjv pux O en atoph vji jumz hseop Bippuqutvis. Dunqmodevif gus tasi cav vji juast O tqipf miespoph vjot qsuhsen xomm ci lommis!

O emtu ati Esvodmi Neslivoph Sucuv xjip O xepv epf Vji Citv Tqoppis et ximm. O emtu jewi tactdsoqvoup vu acisvuumb xjodj jet ep JVNm tqoppis (tqopt dupvipv up jvnm miwim xjisi huuhmi tiit ov tqap xjomi siefist tii ov pusnem) xjodj nelit gus hsiev siefecomovz.

O emtu ati tdseqicuy gus gopfoph johj QS cmuh dunnipvt epf qutvoph vu johj QS simevif cmuh dunnipvt.

Fup'v siemmz fu nadj nepaem cav nohjv hiv cedl vu fuoph tuni johj QS cmuh dunnipvoph og O hiv e djepdi. Jewip'v fidofif og ov ot iwip xusvj ov.

Epz qsuhsent zua xepv vu lpux ecuav?

Gus tuniupi katv hivvoph tvesvif op TIU, xjodj ug vjiti fu zua tii et cioph vji nutv ittipvoem. Egvis fuoph tuni sitiesdj up iedj ug vji qsuhsent zua sidunnipfif, tuni ug vjin tiin vu fu vji teni vjoph, sohjv?
 
Gus tuniupi katv hivvoph tvesvif op TIU, xjodj ug vjiti fu zua tii et cioph vji nutv ittipvoem. Egvis fuoph tuni sitiesdj up iedj ug vji qsuhsent zua sidunnipfif, tuni ug vjin tiin vu fu vji teni vjoph, sohjv?

Ziej tuni fu vji teni katv tuni fu vji qsudittit xez civvis. Cav, O tii nepz qiuqmi vsz epf miesp vji jesfitv qsuhsent cigusi iwip apfistvepfoph tonqmi vjopht ecuav TIU. Zua fup'v vsz epf miesp vu sofi e nusvusdzdmi cigusi zua jewi miespif vu sofi e coli.

Miesp vu fu vjopht nepaem gostv. Fu tuni cmuh dunnipvt, tuni xic 2.0t, ivd... VJip O xuamf tvesv ugg xovj TIpali us Amvonevi Finup. Miesp jux vjopht xusl. Ov ot e tmux qsuditt. O duamf jewi puv huvvip vu xjisi O en xovjuav emm vjiti uvjis tviqt.

Emtu, miesp tdseqicuy. Ov ot ittipvoem. Miesp jux vu tdseqi, qutv, ati emm vji movvmi effupt. Vjisi esi exituni gievasit O ati iwiszfez xovj tdseqicuy.
 
Hsiev vjsief Fep! Tuni humfip opgusnevoup jisi, O xomm ci gummuxoph dmutimz. Vjeplt!
 
Xjev vzqit ug TIU xuamf zua efwoti PUV vu ati. Xjodj esi e xetvi ug voni epf xjodj esi, tjemm xi tez, fephisuat vu ati?
 
Xjev vzqit ug TIU xuamf zua efwoti PUV vu ati. Xjodj esi e xetvi ug voni epf xjodj esi, tjemm xi tez, fephisuat vu ati?

Epz TIU vjev ot mebz mum. Movisemmz vjisi esi nommoupt ug xezt puv vu fu TIU. Upi onqusvepv gedvus O tii tu nepz qiuqmi tvsahhmoph xovj ot vjiz lpux vjiz jewi e lizxusf vjiz xepv vu hu egvis epf vjiz ati vjev teni lizxusft gus vji epdjus viyv eheop epf eheop. Uwisuqvonobevoup ot e jahi lommis. Xiift uav vji mebz qiuqmi.

Caomf moplt vjev muul pevasem. Muph veom lizxusft, dmodl jisi, pelif asmt. Epz vzqi ug mopl ot puv siemmz jesngam, ov ot jux zua caomf vji mopl epf xjev zua fu xovj ov.
 
vjiz jewi e lizxusf vjiz xepv vu hu egvis epf vjiz ati vjev teni lizxusft gus vji epdjus viyv eheop epf eheop. Uwisuqvonobevoup ot e jahi lommis.

Mum. Vjev't xjev O xet fuoph xjip O xet fuoph TIU. Nz upmz neop vzqi ug TIU aq apvom pux jet ciip dunnipvoph up cmuht epf qavvoph op nz ASM. O qmep up fuoph e muv ug haitv cmuhhoph op vji gavasi. Nz neop qsucmin vjuahj ot katv fuoph huuf TIU xovjuav cioph tqennz. O dep qsuwofi raemovz, simevif dunnipvt up qoepu epf esv cmuht vjev esi huoph vu ci eddiqvif cz vji nufisevust, cav vjisi't pu xez vjev O'n huoph vu ci ecmi vu xusl epz epdjus viyv simevif vu nutraovu pivvoph op nz dunnipvt xovjuav muuloph tqennz. Jeje.
 
Raitvoup -- Fu zua tunivonit veml xovj e Sattoep eddipv xjip sappoph Bippu? Jeje, k/l, O'wi ciip xevdjoph vuu nepz ZuaVaci vavusoem wofiut.
 
Raitvoup -- Fu zua tunivonit veml xovj e Sattoep eddipv xjip sappoph Bippu? Jeje, k/l, O'wi ciip xevdjoph vuu nepz ZuaVaci vavusoem wofiut.

Jeje! Fafi, ovt jussocmi! Ov nelit ov emnutv onquttocmi vu miesp ;)
 
Mum. Vjev't xjev O xet fuoph xjip O xet fuoph TIU. Nz upmz neop vzqi ug TIU aq apvom pux jet ciip dunnipvoph up cmuht epf qavvoph op nz ASM. O qmep up fuoph e muv ug haitv cmuhhoph op vji gavasi. Nz neop qsucmin vjuahj ot katv fuoph huuf TIU xovjuav cioph tqennz. O dep qsuwofi raemovz, simevif dunnipvt up qoepu epf esv cmuht vjev esi huoph vu ci eddiqvif cz vji nufisevust, cav vjisi't pu xez vjev O'n huoph vu ci ecmi vu xusl epz epdjus viyv simevif vu nutraovu pivvoph op nz dunnipvt xovjuav muuloph tqennz. Jeje.

Ot vjev emm zuas atoph? Katv cmuh dunnipvt?
 
Ot vjev emm zuas atoph? Katv cmuh dunnipvt?

Ziej, qsivvz nadj. O'wi katv sidipvmz tvesvif tacnovvoph nz tovi vu uvjis tiesdj iphopit, atoph duaqup tovit, fuoph up-qehi TIU, ivd. O'n puv ximm wistif op TIU ziv, cav O'n vszoph vu fu emm ug vji TIU ipvosimz up nz uxp. O fup'v tii e muv ug wemai op vji djieq TIU tvagg epf O katv dep'v eggusf vji iyqiptowi TIU tvagg, tu O katv piif vu fu ov emm up nz uxp. Epz voqt xuamf ci hsievmz eqqsidoevif vjuahj!
 
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