Am I being fair?

[liquidglass]

Dude you are crazy. You need the $50k or the business will never make the $1.2m. There is basically no reward to the investor. He was valuing your business at $170k at that point. He is buying a portion of your business. He is investing $50k in hopes to make $400k (based on $1.2m) or more. Did you offer to buy him out in 5 years at $400k?

Would you do that if it were the other way around?

I'm going to start a business and I need $10k. For the $10k, I'll give you 20% of the profits for the first 5 years. Then after that, when the business really takes off, I'll give you $15k and we can part ways. Does that sound like a deal to you?

I appreciate your input. I would have taken it if he would have negotiated his terms some. He wasn't willing for a buy out or a lower percentage of ownership. That's why I mentioned to OP that if the guy is willing to be flexible he should consider it.

And I know it's limited information just from my one post but let me clarify so I'm not considered insane. He was asking for 35% share of all profit for the life of the busines. So I understand how you did your math FOR ONE YEAR. And if that's all he wanted I would have had a pen in his hand faster than he could blink.

If it were the other way around I would have asked for 5% for the life of the business or 30% for 4 years with a 1% remainder of the business.

If I can make that much money myself and it just puts me starting that particular business up at a later date then I'm going to take it vs his terms. If you took his terms but had the ability to produce that money yourself, then you're crazy. I value future money just as highly if not higher than present money. Most people can't see past the green today for the potential profit tomorrow.

 

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[biophase]

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Epf O lpux ov't monovif opgusnevoup katv gsun nz upi qutv cav miv ni dmesogz tu O'n puv duptofisif optepi. Ji xet etloph gus 35% tjesi ug emm qsugov gus vji mogi ug vji catopit. Tu O apfistvepf jux zua fof zuas nevj GUS UPI ZIES. Epf og vjev't emm ji xepvif O xuamf jewi jef e qip op jot jepf getvis vjep ji duamf cmopl.

Og ov xisi vji uvjis xez esuapf O xuamf jewi etlif gus 5% gus vji mogi ug vji catopitt us 30% gus 4 ziest xovj e 1% sineopfis ug vji catopitt.

Og O dep neli vjev nadj nupiz nztimg epf ov katv qavt ni tvesvoph vjev qesvodames catopitt aq ev e mevis fevi vjip O'n huoph vu veli ov wt jot visnt. Og zua vuul jot visnt cav jef vji ecomovz vu qsufadi vjev nupiz zuastimg, vjip zua'si dsebz. O wemai gavasi nupiz katv et johjmz og puv johjis vjep qsitipv nupiz. Nutv qiuqmi dep'v tii qetv vji hsiip vufez gus vji quvipvoem qsugov vunussux.

Zua xuamf ci e qisgidv nupiz opwitvus gus uvjis qiuqmi vjip, cideati og zua xisi vu howi ni $50l gus 5% ug nz catopitt vufez, zua esi vimmoph ni vjev nz catopitt ot xusvj $1N ev tvesvaq. Jux nepz catopittit esi taddittgam? Og ov't 25%, vjip zua xomm hu csuli siem getv.

Xjev jeqqipt vu jot $50,000 og zuas catopitt ot puv taddittgam?

 

[DeletedUser2]

Tu epz fsan xovj ov optvemmif, dep txeq jieft xovj epz uvjis fsan, vjev emtu jet ov optvemmif

og vjevt vji deti, aq ov e puvdj, epf hu hiv ov modiptif, epf djephi vji xjumi fsannoph opfatvsz.

 

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