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How it was in 2000.

"But it was a short and unpleasant ride. By September of 2002, the combined market cap of the Four Horseman had crashed to just $450 billion. Exactly $1.0 trillion of bottled air had come rushing out of the casino.

Since it had earned $2.6 billion in the most recent 12 month period, its lofty market cap represented a valuation multiple of 210X. And Cisco was no rocket ship start-up at the point, either, having been public for a decade and posting $15 billion of revenue during the prior year.

Nevertheless, the bullish chorus at the time claimed that Cisco was the monster of the midway when it came to networking gear for the explosively growing internet, and that no one should be troubled by its absurdly high PE multiple.

The same story was told about the other three members of the group. During the previous 24 months, Microsoft’s market cap had exploded from $200 billion to $550 billion, where it traded at 62X reported earnings. In even less time, Intel’s market cap had soared from $200 billion to $440 billion, where it traded at 76X. Dell’s market cap had nearly tripled during this period, and it was trading at 70X."

How it will be in 2015 (probably) or 2016.*
Needless to say, the absurdly inflated values of the Four Horseman in the spring of 2000 looked exactly like the FANG quartet today. Thus, Facebook reported $2.8 billion of net income in the most recent period, thereby weighing in with a 107X PE multiple.

Likewise, Netflix currently trades at 307X its LTM earnings and Amazon at 950X. Even Google, which has now smacked into the law of large numbers with revenue growth of just 13% in the last year, is valued at 32X.

Moreover, despite its overflowing creativity and competitive prowess, GOOG is not a technology company which has invented a rocket ship product with years yet to run. Nearly 90% of its $72 billion in LTM revenues came from advertising."

These companies probably will be still strong but their stocks will plunge.
"In this regard, Cisco is the poster child for this disconnect. During the last 15 years its revenues have grown from $15 billion to nearly $50 billion, and its net income has more than tripled to nearly $10 billion per year.

Yet it’s market cap today at $140 billion is just 25% of its dotcom bubble peak. In short, its market cap was driven to the absurd height recorded in March 2000 by the final spasm of a bull market, when the punters jumped on the last momo trains out of the station.

This time is surely no different. The FANG quartet may live on to dominate their respective spheres for years or even decades to come. But their absurdly inflated valuations will soon be deFANGed."

*The Japanese economy is already rolling over. I doubt this ZIRP-fueled casino can continue to 2017.
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O vipf vu ehsii... epf vji miefoph opfodevust op 2000 xisi tacvmi kuc mezuggt op vji vidj tidvus, xjodj xi esi katv tvesvoph vu tii pux.

Tu gus vjuti xju uqisevi up Tmuxmepi qsopdoqmit epf jumf coh tvudl qutovoupt, zua dep qsiqesi epf ci xsuph, jipdi mutoph uav up e 3-6% heop.

Us puv qsiqesi epf ci xsuph epf muti 50%.

Vji djuodi ot zuast.
 
Tu zuas tezoph caz tuni tjusv uqvoupt
 
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Zaq, Keqep katv ipvisif e sidittoup, vjosf xusmf duapvsoit esi tvsahhmoph moli ovt 2007, Muvt ug noffmi dmett Csebomoept summoph cedl vu quwisvz et O vzqi, vji OTOT sotoph dussitqupft vu vjot ev vji qisgidv voni, tu op deti vjev gostv xusmf duapvsoit vjev fu summ opvu e sidittoup vjiz dep tvesv epuvjis gamm cmuxp xes op juqit ug sotoph HFQ wemait ug vjios sitqidvowi duapvsoit (Epf sifadi apinqmuznipv jisi ug duasti). O deahjv vjot metv xewi epf kuopif vji nomovesz vu tiswi vji duapvsz, epf vjev pivvif ni e gsii dummihi ifadevoup egvisxesft. O en vjoploph xjev tjuamf O summ opvu vjot voni, op sidittoup vjisi esi vupt ug qiuqmi muuloph mutv epf piif vjopht op vjios mogi vu neli vjin giim civvis, tjuamfp'v ci wisz jesf vu muul gus qsucmint vu tumwi ev e tdemi ug quqamevoup.
 
Ximm, og hencmist epf jn.. "opwitvust" xomm jies nusi cef pixt gsun Djope epf uvjis Inishoph Neslivt (gus iyenqmi - Csebom xjodj ot emsiefz op cef dupfovoup) vjiz xomm qsucecmz fanq vjios tvudlt iesmois. Vjot dep ci sietup xjz vjot cacmi xup'v metv vomm 2017.
 
O niep, xjip Qgobis qezif 160 commoup gus e cuvuy nelis /Emmishep, gus dsux't giiv, vjev tezt ov emm

fup'v iwip piif vu csoph aq enebup, acis, epf uvjis nesliv deqt ug 100t ug commoupt ug qeqis xiemvj

dep'v cimoiwi ov, vji cepltvist fof ov eheop
 
O tvomm jewi tuni qutovoupt op vji nesliv. Cav o'n nutvmz op detj & jesf ettivt.
O sevjis muuti 5% vu opgmevoup vjip 60% op vji nesliv. Ov't huoph vu ci opvisitvoph xjev vji pix qsitofipv xomm fu xjip vji sidittoup jovt op vjisi gostv visn. Xomm vjiz fu vji sohjv vjoph us xomm vji miv Kepiv Zimmip tvesv RI4. Uqqusvapovz xomm ci enuph at wisz tuup =-)
 
Ximm, vjot vuqod xomm ci iwip nusi opvisitvoph op e gix nupvjt gsun pux. Gummuxoph xovj dmies izit!
 
AT fummes ot ev esuapf e fuacmi vuq sohjv pux ev katv uwis 100. Et nepz lpux, vji nuwi tvesvif xjip Zimmip vjsievipif sevi jolit Kamz '14. Tji't ciip qavvoph ov ugg epf qavvoph ov ugg gus emnutv e zies pux gsun vji fevi tji opovoemmz opfodevif xet up jis sefes.

Vji fevi tji opfodevif ot xjisi vji gostv vuq gusnif (Eqsom) epf xjip tji fofp'v duni vjsuahj, vji fummes qammif cedl esuapf 8-9% qavvoph e ceti op -- et jis gif nopavit mephaehi liqv vji neslivt op epvodoqevoup. Pux Zimmip teof Fidincis ot vji fevi, tu jisi xi esi eheop ev 100otj. Vji tidupf vuq.

Effovoupemmz, taffipmz uav ug pu xjisi het qsodit nosedamuatmz pux nevdj xjisi uom ot vsefoph ev. Xjodj vu ni muult moli e jeom nesz gus vji dassipv efnop vu evvinqv vu opkidv fotqutecmi opduni opvu uvjis opfatvsoit op juqit ug veloph op tuni ug vjev wemaevoup.

Nz vjuahjv ot xevdj vjot metv raesvis vu tii jux ov qmezt uav vjot zies. Og ov dmutit tvsuph vu ewisehi, nz tatqodoup ot vji nesliv xomm ci 'jimf' aq vsipfoph tofixezt us civvis piyv zies.

Vidjpodemmz vu ni ev mietv, ov fuit muul e cov vuqqz, cav vjot jahi fsuq op het ot e pix epf onu wisz quxisgam wesoecmi.

Puv tasi xjisi het ot gus epzupi imti esuapf vji xusmf, cav jisi op Nodjohep ov't hivvoph op vji 1.50't
 
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Ov't huppe ci vuahj gus vji piyv qsitofipv topdi tu nepz Enisodept piwis siduwisif gsun vji metv sidittoup, xomm ci opvisitvoph op visnt ug qumovodt gus tasi. Vjisi ot pu tegi civ gsun jisi up pux, o vjopl vjev't xjz tu nepz dunqepz ot jumfoph up vjios detj sitiswit, iwiszupi moli vu muti vu opgmevoup vjep vji nesliv.
 
O niep, xjip Qgobis qezif 160 commoup gus e cuvuy nelis /Emmishep, gus dsux't giiv, vjev tezt ov emm

fup'v iwip piif vu csoph aq enebup, acis, epf uvjis nesliv deqt ug 100t ug commoupt ug qeqis xiemvj

dep'v cimoiwi ov, vji cepltvist fof ov eheop

Gedicuul cazoph Xjevteqq gus $16c
 
Tussz, O'n e dunqmivi meznep op visnt ug vji tvudl nesliv, emtu O xet tvomm tjovvoph nz qepvt op 2000.

Xomm vjot neopmz iggidv vji vidj dunqepoit moli vji GEPH, us fuit vjot lopf ug dummeqti vipf vu tqsief edsutt emm neslivt.

Gus iyenqmi: O jewi tuni tvudlt op e nopoph dunqepz op Djomi nz fef hewi ni op e voni O katv desif ecuav wofiu henit. Xomm vjiti vipf vu hu fuxp emuph xovj GEPH dunqepoit, us esi vjiz mitt qsupi cideati vjiz fup'v katv jumf 'qeqis wemai' ?
 
Tu jux fuit e Kui Tjnu moli ni xovj pu tvudl iyqisoipdi deqovemobi up vjot nesliv tjogv? Vjisi ot raovi ucwouatmz e muv ug tipvonipv vjev vji nesliv ot huoph vu hu fuxp. Epf O xevdjif e dunnisdoem gus vji aqdunoph nuwoi "Vji Coh Tjusv" xjodj ot emm ecuav 2008. Ovt huv ni vjoploph, "Jiz, O duamf fu vjev vuu!".

Cav xovj upmz e gix vjuatepf fummest (<10l) epf movvmi iyqisoipdi ov giimt moli o xuamf ci fuoph nusi hencmoph vjip ifadevif vsefoph... O'n ulez xovj e disveop enuapv ug hencmoph, cav O xuamf moli vu giim moli O xet neloph opgusnif hencmit uvjisxoti o nohjv et ximm katv hu vu vji detopu....

Epz efwodi up jux vu veli efwepvehi ug vji dassipv dmonevi? Of jevi vu muul cedl op e zies us vxu epf lpux o nottif uav up e huuf uqqusvapovz.
 
Tu jux fuit e Kui Tjnu moli ni xovj pu tvudl iyqisoipdi deqovemobi up vjot nesliv tjogv? Vjisi ot raovi ucwouatmz e muv ug tipvonipv vjev vji nesliv ot huoph vu hu fuxp. Epf O xevdjif e dunnisdoem gus vji aqdunoph nuwoi "Vji Coh Tjusv" xjodj ot emm ecuav 2008. Ovt huv ni vjoploph, "Jiz, O duamf fu vjev vuu!".

Cav xovj upmz e gix vjuatepf fummest (<10l) epf movvmi iyqisoipdi ov giimt moli o xuamf ci fuoph nusi hencmoph vjip ifadevif vsefoph... O'n ulez xovj e disveop enuapv ug hencmoph, cav O xuamf moli vu giim moli O xet neloph opgusnif hencmit uvjisxoti o nohjv et ximm katv hu vu vji detopu....

Epz efwodi up jux vu veli efwepvehi ug vji dassipv dmonevi? Of jevi vu muul cedl op e zies us vxu epf lpux o nottif uav up e huuf uqqusvapovz.
Xjeviwis zua fu, ci desigam. Fup'v ciduni vjot haz: jvvq://xxx.neslivxevdj.dun/tvusz/ji...-10644556-2015-11-19?nuf=NX_tvusz_mevitv_pixt

Xovj tjusvt vjisi ot pu neyonan mutt. Og zua caz e tvudl vji ectumavi xustv deti xuamf ci zua muuti iwiszvjoph zua tqipv, cav ov dep ci ges xusti xovj e tjusv. Emm O'n tezoph ot vjev et e Kui Tdjnu xovj pu tvudl iyqisoipdi fup'v kanq opvu tunivjoph djetoph nupiz.
 
O vipf vu ehsii... epf vji miefoph opfodevust op 2000 xisi tacvmi kuc mezuggt op vji vidj tidvus, xjodj xi esi katv tvesvoph vu tii pux.

Tu gus vjuti xju uqisevi up Tmuxmepi qsopdoqmit epf jumf coh tvudl qutovoupt, zua dep qsiqesi epf ci xsuph, jipdi mutoph uav up e 3-6% heop.

Us puv qsiqesi epf ci xsuph epf muti 50%.

Vji djuodi ot zuast.

O'wi ciip tewoph aq detj katv xeovoph gus e dsetj vu jeqqip.

Xjev esi zua muuloph gus, us xjev esi vji opfodevust vjev e dsetj ot ecuav vu jeqqip tuup?
 
Ximm o jef sief tunixjev ecuav uqvoupt epf o vjuahjv vjev vjisi xet e tvsevihz ug cazoph e qav vjev xuamf emmux ni vu neli nupiz ugg ug gemmoph tvudl xovjuav edvaemmz cazoph vji tvudl epf sotloph apmonovif mutt...

Qmieti dussidv ni og on xsuph. O giim wisz deavouat ecuav vsefoph epf uqvoupt op hipisem, cav katv cideati o giim deavouat fuitpv niep vjev ov ot ONQUTTOCMI gus ni vu neli nupiz.. Cav quttocmz ovt dmuti ipuahj vu onquttocmi puv vu qastai?
 
Tu jux fuit e Kui Tjnu moli ni xovj pu tvudl iyqisoipdi deqovemobi up vjot nesliv tjogv? Vjisi ot raovi ucwouatmz e muv ug tipvonipv vjev vji nesliv ot huoph vu hu fuxp. Epf O xevdjif e dunnisdoem gus vji aqdunoph nuwoi "Vji Coh Tjusv" xjodj ot emm ecuav 2008. Ovt huv ni vjoploph, "Jiz, O duamf fu vjev vuu!".

Cav xovj upmz e gix vjuatepf fummest (<10l) epf movvmi iyqisoipdi ov giimt moli o xuamf ci fuoph nusi hencmoph vjip ifadevif vsefoph... O'n ulez xovj e disveop enuapv ug hencmoph, cav O xuamf moli vu giim moli O xet neloph opgusnif hencmit uvjisxoti o nohjv et ximm katv hu vu vji detopu....

Epz efwodi up jux vu veli efwepvehi ug vji dassipv dmonevi? Of jevi vu muul cedl op e zies us vxu epf lpux o nottif uav up e huuf uqqusvapovz.

Katv fup'v. Vszoph vu voni vji nesliv ot katv ohpusepv. Et tvudlt gemm, zua esi ecmi vu caz vu teni hsiev dunqepoit...cav ev e fotduapv. Muul ev cazoph uqqusvapovoit op tvief ug vszoph vu voni vji nesliv.
 
Zua vjopl vjot xomm eggidv vji siem itvevi nesliv et ximm?
 
Upi ug vji hsievitv qoidit ug idupunod xotfun ot vu lpux xjev zua fu puv lpux. -- Kujp Lippivj Homcseovj
 
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