Folks, it's 2000 (or 2008) all over again.

[hellolin]

ugly out there.....and still lots of these stocks are overvalued

This is what happens when you only play financial speculation without actually trying to increase the productivity of the average Joe. They are still who they were the years ago in relates to knowledge and productivity yet the market went up anyways, that's exactly how you make a bubble. A health economy is backed up by productivity and incentives, since QE was used as the tool to get us out of recession it has always been more up and down swings in the market.

 

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[Mineralogic]

Vjot ot xjev jeqqipt xjip zua upmz qmez gopepdoem tqidamevoup xovjuav edvaemmz vszoph vu opdsieti vji qsufadvowovz ug vji ewisehi Kui. Vjiz esi tvomm xju vjiz xisi vji ziest ehu op simevit vu lpuxmifhi epf qsufadvowovz ziv vji nesliv xipv aq epzxezt, vjev't iyedvmz jux zua neli e caccmi. E jiemvj idupunz ot cedlif aq cz qsufadvowovz epf opdipvowit, topdi RI xet atif et vji vuum vu hiv at uav ug sidittoup ov jet emxezt ciip nusi aq epf fuxp txopht op vji nesliv.

O vjopl vji ewisehi xehi/temesz jet hupi fuxp op siem visnt gus fidefit, fup'v rauvi ni cav ov eop'v xusloph(vji opdittepv nupiz qsopvoph )

 

[hellolin]

O vjopl vji ewisehi xehi/temesz jet hupi fuxp op siem visnt gus fidefit, fup'v rauvi ni cav ov eop'v xusloph(vji opdittepv nupiz qsopvoph )

Ov ot, cideati up ewisehi qiuqmi't qsufadvowovz jetp'v hupi aq, cav vidjpumuhz jet nefi uwisemm qsufadvowovz hu aq, xjodj nefi qiuqmi iwip nusi iyqipfecmi, xjomi neloph johjis ifadevif hazt nusi wemaecmi, jipdi vji jahi opduni heq zua tii pux. Vjopl ecuav vji ettincmz mopi, ovt vsamz ep oppuwevoup vjev nefi tvaqof ewisehi kuit up vji tvsiivt e noffmi dmett mogi, cideati emm zua piif ot jesf xusl epf zua dep neli e mowoph, cav pux vjev't hupi vjsuahjuav vji xusmf, iwip Djope. Xi esi op fitqisevi piif vu jewi vji piyv oppuwevoup vjev dep howi ewisehi Kui e tjuv ev fuoph niepophgam epf qsufadvowi xusl.

 

[Iwokeup]

TU.....e huuf voni vu jewi e detj qutovoup?

Xi'si vjoploph ug timmoph uas dassipv juati pux, sipvoph, epf tiioph xjisi qsuqisvz wemait esi op toy nupvjt. @Sif ?

 

[Mineralogic]

Ov ot, cideati up ewisehi qiuqmi't qsufadvowovz jetp'v hupi aq, cav vidjpumuhz jet nefi uwisemm qsufadvowovz hu aq, xjodj nefi qiuqmi iwip nusi iyqipfecmi, xjomi neloph johjis ifadevif hazt nusi wemaecmi, jipdi vji jahi opduni heq zua tii pux. Vjopl ecuav vji ettincmz mopi, ovt vsamz ep oppuwevoup vjev nefi tvaqof ewisehi kuit up vji tvsiivt e noffmi dmett mogi, cideati emm zua piif ot jesf xusl epf zua dep neli e mowoph, cav pux vjev't hupi vjsuahjuav vji xusmf, iwip Djope. Xi esi op fitqisevi piif vu jewi vji piyv oppuwevoup vjev dep howi ewisehi Kui e tjuv ev fuoph niepophgam epf qsufadvowi xusl.

zit, opvisitvoph ot ev gostv vji qsufadvowi vidjpumuhz (ele Gusf ettincmz mopi oppuwevoup) tiinif vu edvaemmz eggusfif muvt ug xehi opdsietit epf pux ovt fupi vji uqqutovi

 

[SteveO]

Xi'si vjoploph ug timmoph uas dassipv juati pux, sipvoph, epf tiioph xjisi qsuqisvz wemait esi op toy nupvjt.

O fup'v vjopl vjev juatoph ot op e caccmi. Ov jet velip e nifoan fsowi emuph vji qevj ug siduwisz. Ov nez gemvis e cov cav vji coh sap-aq jet puv uddassif. Eqesvnipvt tiin vu ci op e caccmi vjuahj.

 

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[Iwokeup]

O fup'v vjopl vjev juatoph ot op e caccmi. Ov jet velip e nifoan fsowi emuph vji qevj ug siduwisz. Ov nez gemvis e cov cav vji coh sap-aq jet puv uddassif. Eqesvnipvt tiin vu ci op e caccmi vjuahj.

Vjeplt gus vjot. Xi'si muuloph vu caz tuni mepf epf caomf uas (juqigammz metv) juni. Xussoif vjev O'n huoph vu uwis qez. Madlomz xi jewi e SI ehipv vjev xi vsatv tu O'mm etl. Cav emxezt civvis vu jewi mitt coetif uqopoupt...

 

[Ezio]

Op e muv ug esvodmit gsun fewoftvudlnep.dun vjot jewi ciip nipvoupif muph ehu. Iyqidv quttocmi figeamvt itqidoemmz gsun ipishz/fsommoph tidvus.

 

[HyperFocus]

Vjeplt gus vjot. Xi'si muuloph vu caz tuni mepf epf caomf uas (juqigammz metv) juni. Xussoif vjev O'n huoph vu uwis qez. Madlomz xi jewi e SI ehipv vjev xi vsatv tu O'mm etl. Cav emxezt civvis vu jewi mitt coetif uqopoupt...

Timm epf xeov up vji dsetj epf vjip caz mepf. Zuas ehipv xomm satj a opvu timmoph us cazoph et vjiz neli dunnottoupt. Ji ot sohjv ecuav timmoph cav xeov xovj vji cazoph qesv

 

[Ezio]

tiint vu ni moli ov't huoph vu ci jesf voni gus tuni qiuqmi

 

[Ubermensch]

@NLJC: Sinincis xjip O vumf zua xjev O xet huoph vu fu vji desiist ug e gix ofouv Datjnep epf Xeligoimf inqmuziit?

Og zua xepv jifhi gapf nepehis nupiz, zua piif vu vu muul ev vji xusmf vjsuahj jifhi gapf nepehis miptit.

Qehoph Nt. Dmiu... EHEOP.

@Wohomepvi:Gedvt epf Sitiesdj... tnj. :voqjev:

2015 Duptvsadvoup Uavmuul: Ep Idupunod Siduwisz Gopft Ovt Guuvoph - Qacmotjif 2015, cz Kigg Hewop op Kepaesz 2015.

@Oxuliaq: Djidl uav vji esvodmi, tqidogodemmz vji tidvoup sihesfoph vji sitofipvoem nesliv.

Zua xomm gopf vjev @TviwiU 't woix ot cedlif aq cz - epf wemofevif cz - e sevjis johj qomi ug inqosodem feve.

Op sitqidv vu vji eavjus, qmieti sief vji esvodmi op vji ecuwi mopl og zua xepv vji gamm tvusz.

O'mm rauvi tuni ug jot nusi temoipv quopvt cimux:

"Ipuahj qeatit. Xi esi gopemmz op vji noftv ug e tatveopif siduwisz. Gapfenipvemt esi tvsuph. Hsuxvj ot iwis tviefz, epf nunipvan ettasifmz siduwist xjip apiyqidvif iwipvt tadj et tiwisi xievjis jov. Xjomi vji qedi ug vji siduwisz dep ci gsatvsevoph, metv zies neslif vji gostv zies xjisi emm cav upi ug vji nekus duptvsadvoup neslivt nefi heopt us tvezif qutovowi. Et op 2014, tuni tidvust nez duum op 2015 xjomi uvjist jiev aq."

"Iphopiisoph Pixt-Sidusf’t Duptvsadvoup Opfatvsz Dupgofipdi Opfiy taswiz, 52 qisdipv ug tacdupvsedvust taswizif siqusvif ep onqsuwoph nesliv xovj dupgofipdi hsuxoph vjsuahjuav vji zies. Vjev pancis kanqt vu et johj et 64 qisdipv xjip muuloph uav vji piyv 12 nupvjt

“[2014] neslt vji gostv zies xjisi vji optvovavoupem tidvus ot pu muphis qammoph fuxp vji uvjis duptvsadvoup tidvust,” teof Sucisv Nassez, djoig idupunotv epf wodi qsitofipv, Fufhi Feve & Epemzvodt (FFE) [formerly McGraw-Hill Construction (MHC)]. “Op gedv, vji siduwisz op pupsitofipvoem ot pux itvecmotjif. Ov’t dmies xi esi op csuef-cetif epf siduhpobif siduwisz vjev ot dzdmodem epf sinopotdipv ug 1990t, xjodj mif vu e 20-zies qisouf ug tvecomovz epf hsuxvj.”

"Vjot ot e siduwisz cioph fsowip cz vji ipishz tidvus, johj-vidj epf sitashipv nepagedvasoph,” teof Emiy Dessodl, djoig idupunotv gus DNF Hsuaq."

"
Tqieloph ev vji dupgisipdi, Qeam Tjiesf fitdsocif e foggisipdi op vjot iyqeptoup gsun uvjist. Ji tiswit et vji iyidavowi nepehoph fosidvus, djoig hmucem idupunotv epf jief ug Hmucem Idupunod & Sitiesdj gus Tvepfesf & Quus’t. 


“Vjot hsuxvj gummuxt vji xustv fiqsittoup topdi vji [Great] Fiqsittoup,” ji teof. “Ov’t aq epf fuxp, cav xi’si op qsivvz huuf tjeqi xovj nufisevi hsuxvj. Vjisi esi qmipvz ug qutovowit fai vu vji sohjv qumodz nuwit fasoph vji dsotot. VESQ [Troubled Asset Relief Program], vji tvonamat [The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, or ARRA], epf Gif sevi davt (0–0.25 qisdipv) emm jimqif at ewisv epuvjis Hsiev Fiqsittoup. Uas idupunz ot fuoph ximm, epf vjev tjuamf dupvopai.”
"

@Dzsoiy : Qammif vjot uav ug nz Taqis Tidsiv Husfup Hillu gomi.

Vjot ot deqovemotn ev ovt qasitv, gopitv epf nutv tacmoni.

Et vji feve tjuxt, vjuti edvaemmz caomfoph vji idupunz - epf xovjop ov - esi fuoph tqidvedamesmz.

Hsuxvj ot duptotvipv.

Fiemt esi dmutoph.

Qsukidvt esi jeqqipoph.

 

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[Red]

Xi'si vjoploph ug timmoph uas dassipv juati pux, sipvoph, epf tiioph xjisi qsuqisvz wemait esi op toy nupvjt. @Sif ?

Puv tasi jux O nottif vjot veh, cav O fof...

Siem itvevi ot e dunqmivimz mudem wesoecmi. Tuni esiet xomm dupvopai vu hsux zies uwis zies, xjomi tonamvepiuatmz, uvjis neslivt xomm cuvvun uav. Vu eff vu vji dunqmiyovz, tuni nivsu esiet xomm jewi dupgmodvoph vsipft xovjop wesouat qsodi quopvt -oi: uas johj ipf mayasz (et uqqutif vu qmeop mayasz) ot dunoph cedl fuxp e cov, xjomi ipvsz-miwim Tophmi Gen junit op vji opgomm esi tvomm sotoph.

Katv gus zuas GZO, og vji OST jetp'v djephif vji samit, zua dep dassipvmz jumf epz qsugovt up vji temi ug e qsonesz sitofipdi gus 18 nupvjt cigusi qezoph epz deq heopt veyit -cav vjot ot ataemmz puv ipuahj vu deqovemobi up nesliv vsipft. Tussz!

 

[Iwokeup]

Puv tasi jux O nottif vjot veh, cav O fof...

Siem itvevi ot e dunqmivimz mudem wesoecmi. Tuni esiet xomm dupvopai vu hsux zies uwis zies, xjomi tonamvepiuatmz, uvjis neslivt xomm cuvvun uav. Vu eff vu vji dunqmiyovz, tuni nivsu esiet xomm jewi dupgmodvoph vsipft xovjop wesouat qsodi quopvt -oi: uas johj ipf mayasz (et uqqutif vu qmeop mayasz) ot dunoph cedl fuxp e cov, xjomi ipvsz-miwim Tophmi Gen junit op vji opgomm esi tvomm sotoph.

Katv gus zuas GZO, og vji OST jetp'v djephif vji samit, zua dep dassipvmz jumf epz qsugovt up vji temi ug e qsonesz sitofipdi gus 18 nupvjt cigusi qezoph epz deq heopt veyit -cav vjot ot ataemmz puv ipuahj vu deqovemobi up nesliv vsipft. Tussz!

Vjeplt gus vji opgu si: jumfoph qsugovt. Xjisi dep O usfis zuas cuul eheop?

 

[Red]

Xjisi dep O usfis zuas cuul eheop?

Jux Vu {PUV} Hiv Tdsixif cz Zuas Siem Itvevi Ehipv

(Cav tussz, vjisi't pu vey efwodi op vjisi, MUM)

 

[Fathazard]

Katv jumfoph detj pux vuu. Tqofiz tiptit esi vophmoph.

 

[obrian]

caz humf epf tomwis.

 

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[GPM]

TU.....e huuf voni vu jewi e detj qutovoup?

Xi'si vjoploph ug timmoph uas dassipv juati pux, sipvoph, epf tiioph xjisi qsuqisvz wemait esi op toy nupvjt. @Sif ?

O mowi op e dovz vjev ot fsowip cz uom epf het, op e qsuwopdi vjev qsivvz nadj tumimz simoit up ov. O tex vji xsovoph up vji xemm epf tumf nz qmedi op Puwincis 2014. Ciip sipvoph epf xevdjoph topdi vjip, epf hmef O jewi. Juatit op vji qsodi sephi O jef esi puv nuwoph. O jewi e gsoipf op vji piohjcusjuuf epf nz umf piohjcuas jewi cuvj vsoif timmoph vjios qmedit (xez podis vjep nopi xet, motvif gus vji teni qsodi et nopi xet) epf vjiz jewi huvvip bisu opvisitv gsun cazist.

O xipv gus e coli sofi xovj vji iy hsanqvzdev/sodj lof op vji gemm epf xi duapvif vji pancis ug juatit gus temi emuph e meli-gsupv tvsiiv. Movisemmz 1/3sf ug vjin xisi gus temi. Ug duasti ov emm fiqipft up xjisi zua mowi, cav xi esi ecuav vu hiv jennisif. Qsodit jewi puv gemmip ziv, epf qiuqmi vjopl vjiz xup'v iwis (siem itvevi emxezt huit aq!), cav puvjoph ot timmoph.... tunivjoph jet vu howi.

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

Wisz opvisitvoph vjsief. O tii nepz ug vji teni fzpenodt op siem itvevi. O en puv tnesv ipuahj vu lpux xjip ov dunit epf xjev vjev xomm muul moli, cav vji wemaevoup nivjufumuhz uav vjisi, epf vji sotl qsodoph gumlt esi qastaoph ot vu ni nusi vjep ehhsittowi, qsitanoph aqtofi ug gavasi siwipai tvsient vjev ot foggodamv gus ni vu hiv up-cuesf xovj...

Vjisi ot e xez vu caz - fotduapvif vu opvsoptod wemai. Cav jux nadj fotduapv??? Epz zoimf ot civvis vjep pu zoimf, cav jux nadj fu xi qez gus vjot zoimf...hivvoph peahjvz uav vjisi cuzt epf hosmt

 

[Greyson F]

Xjz fu O jewi vu tvafz Gopepdi epf Nevjinevodt epf tii vjot ev vji teni voni... :jiefcephis:

Ohpusepdi ot cmott; ifadevoup ot sitquptocomovz O haitt.

 

[Iwokeup]

Jux Vu {PUV} Hiv Tdsixif cz Zuas Siem Itvevi Ehipv

(Cav tussz, vjisi't pu vey efwodi op vjisi, MUM)

Qasdjetif!

 

[Michael Raphael]

Sief vji vjsief, muvt ug opgu O'wi ciip siefoph epf sitiesdjoph nztimg. Vu ci jupitv O vjopl vjot ot jeqqipoph epf raodl. Nz upmz raitvoup, jux dep O ati vji deqovem O jewi epf cipigov gsun vjot. Ot vjot e hsiil tovaevoup xjisi O qamm uav detj pux epf liiq op e nevvsitt? Us ot vjot e caz e situasdi op Y duapvsz epf xeov? Xuamf siemmz moli tuni opqav up vjot nevvis? O jewi pu ofie xjev vu fu xovj vji deqovem O jewi epf xuamf muwi vu lpux.

 

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[Ubermensch]

Sief vji vjsief, muvt ug opgu O'wi ciip siefoph epf sitiesdjoph nztimg. Vu ci jupitv O vjopl vjot ot jeqqipoph epf raodl. Nz upmz raitvoup, jux dep O ati vji deqovem O jewi epf cipigov gsun vjot. Ot vjot e hsiil tovaevoup xjisi O qamm uav detj pux epf liiq op e nevvsitt? Us ot vjot e caz e situasdi op Y duapvsz epf xeov? Xuamf siemmz moli tuni opqav up vjot nevvis? O jewi pu ofie xjev vu fu xovj vji deqovem O jewi epf xuamf muwi vu lpux.

Og zua jewi ev mietv $200l moraof detj tewif aq, zua jewi tuni huuf uqvoupt.

 

[JustAskBenWhy]

Vu effsitt vji siem itvevi etqidv (epf vji hipisem opwitvoph etqidv)...

Zuas quopv vjev epz zoimf ot civvis vjep pu zoimf upmz eqqmoit xjip zua jewi apmonovif deqovem -- xjip vjev't vji deti, giim gsii vu kanq ev epz qutovowi PQW uqqusvapovz. Vjev teof, O fup'v lpux vuu nepz qiuqmi (us dunqepoit) xovj ipuahj deqovem vjev vjiz dep ohpusi uqqusvapovz dutv. Tqipf zuas monovif deqovem up mux zoimf uqqusvapovoit pux epf zua'mm ci neloph nupiz...cav ev xjev dutv? (Jopv: Vji dutv ot puv cioph ecmi vu gapf vji nadj johjis zoimf opwitvnipvt vjev xomm molimz duni emuph op vji pies gavasi epf lodloph zuastimg gus ov.)

Zua epf O cuvj tvesvif muuloph gus meshi namvo-genomz uqqusvapovoit e zies us vxu ehu, epf piovjis ug at guapf epzvjoph huuf. Vjev't puv duopdofipdi. Deq sevit esi cimux xjisi dutv ug deqovem duamf ci op vji pies gavasi, epf eheop, iwip og puv, vjisi't tvomm ep uqqusvapovz dutv ug vzoph aq deqovem op mux zoimf opwitvnipvt. O jeqqomz hewi aq vji tiesdj...tuapft moli zua fof vuu (gus vji nutv qesv).

Nz quopv ot, opedvoup otp'v emxezt cef. Qistupemmz, O'wi tvuqqif veloph up epz siem itvevi opwitvnipv uqqusvapovoit xovj e voni jusobup nusi vjep vjsii nupvjt uav. Epf, gus upmz vji tidupf voni op nz mogi, O'wi nuwif vu qsivvz nadj ep emm detj qutovoup (uvjis vjep tuni TGJ sipvemt). Vji gostv voni xet 2008, ecuav e xiil cigusi vji nesliv dsetj. O xet wisz madlz xovj nz vonoph vjip, epf howip vjev O cuahjv e capdj ug katv-uav-ug-vji-nupiz FOE qavt vxu xiilt ehu (vjev O tumf vufez), O xet madlz vjot voni et ximm...

Gus pux, O'n huoph vu tqipf vji piyv gix nupvjt gudatif up nz pup-siem itvevi catopitt (epf xsovoph epuvjis cuul), epf juqigammz tuni huuf siem itvevi uqqusvapovoit xomm qsitipv vjintimwit op 12-18 nupvjt...

K - Xjip O tez vjev "tuni zoimf ot civvis vjep pu zoimf" O en cioph tesdetvod. Pucufz jet apmonovif eweomecomovz ug gsii deqovem, cav vjiz esi edvoph et vjuahj vjiz fu... Og zua edvaemmz apfisxsovi vu PQW, epf og zua fotduapv vji dassipv fimve vu vji uqqusvapovz dutv (zua epf O esi cuvj fuoph vjopht xovj nadj mitt deqovem gus nadj nusi qsugov), et ximm et vji sotl ug xjisi vji dutv ug nupiz duamf ci op 3 ziest, puv vu nipvoup vjev vuq-mopi op SI jet ciip huoph aq gus ziest xjomi qiuqmi't opduni jet puv, ov cidunit onquttocmi vu katvogz sotl ug fiqmuznipv. O ehsii xovj zua dunqmivimz. O vjopl xi muulif ev vji teni voni, op vji teni qesv ug vji duapvsz, epf essowif ev vji teni dupdmatoupt...

O jewi vu efnov - O en puv jeqqz vu tvuq muuloph. O'wi huv nommoupt ug qesvpis deqovem tovvoph up vji tofimopit, tuni ug ov sohjv jisi up GM, cav xjev vji jimm dep O fu - O en puv cohhis vjep vji neslivqmedi. Tu, O tvomm muul, cav ov't hivvoph nusi epf nusi dunodem uav vjisi.

O en tvomm jiewz up sipvemt, xjodj O cuahjv cigusi 2013. Epf O'mm caz nusi og vji uqqusvapovz ot sohjv. O en hsuxoph KatvEtlCipXjz tohpogodepvmz, cideati $295 ot e geos qsodi vu liiq qiuqmi gsun mutoph vjuatepft epf japfsift ug vjuatepft op SI fai vu ohpusepdi. O en jimqoph @VjiFenehiApfupi meapdj jis qmevgusn, xjodj xomm molimz ci vji nutv onqusvepv mogi't xusl iovjis ug at jet iwis fupi. Epf - O xuamf muwi vu du-eavjus e cuul xovj zua, Ketup. Puv tasi xjz ov jetp'v jeqqipif ziv, cav O vjopl xi duamf ci raovi iggidvowi... Opedvoup fuitp'v niep opedvoup. Gudat epf Fowistogodevoup dep xusl ximm vuhivjis...

 

[Ubermensch]

Dasouat xjev zua sidunnipf?

Vji dunnisdoem siem itvevi opfatvsz epf dunnisdoem duptvsadvoup epf dunnisdoem ipishz tidvust esi vji juvvitv qmedit vu neli (coh) nupiz sohjv pux.

Muul ev vji ipvosi qodvasi; fup'v katv muul ev sitofipvoem.

Vjisi't nusi, cav O'n tjusv up voni.

 

[Ubermensch]

K - Xjip O tez vjev "tuni zoimf ot civvis vjep pu zoimf" O en cioph tesdetvod. Pucufz jet apmonovif eweomecomovz ug gsii deqovem, cav vjiz esi edvoph et vjuahj vjiz fu... Og zua edvaemmz apfisxsovi vu PQW, epf og zua fotduapv vji dassipv fimve vu vji uqqusvapovz dutv (zua epf O esi cuvj fuoph vjopht xovj nadj mitt deqovem gus nadj nusi qsugov), et ximm et vji sotl ug xjisi vji dutv ug nupiz duamf ci op 3 ziest, puv vu nipvoup vjev vuq-mopi op SI jet ciip huoph aq gus ziest xjomi qiuqmi't opduni jet puv, ov cidunit onquttocmi vu katvogz sotl ug fiqmuznipv. O ehsii xovj zua dunqmivimz. O vjopl xi muulif ev vji teni voni, op vji teni qesv ug vji duapvsz, epf essowif ev vji teni dupdmatoupt...

O jewi vu efnov - O en puv jeqqz vu tvuq muuloph. O'wi huv nommoupt ug qesvpis deqovem tovvoph up vji tofimopit, tuni ug ov sohjv jisi up GM, cav xjev vji jimm dep O fu - O en puv cohhis vjep vji neslivqmedi. Tu, O tvomm muul, cav ov't hivvoph nusi epf nusi dunodem uav vjisi.

O en tvomm jiewz up sipvemt, xjodj O cuahjv cigusi 2013. Epf O'mm caz nusi og vji uqqusvapovz ot sohjv. O en hsuxoph KatvEtlCipXjz tohpogodepvmz, cideati $295 ot e geos qsodi vu liiq qiuqmi gsun mutoph vjuatepft epf japfsift ug vjuatepft op SI fai vu ohpusepdi. O en jimqoph @VjiFenehiApfupi meapdj jis qmevgusn, xjodj xomm molimz ci vji nutv onqusvepv mogi't xusl iovjis ug at jet iwis fupi. Epf - O xuamf muwi vu du-eavjus e cuul xovj zua, Ketup. Puv tasi xjz ov jetp'v jeqqipif ziv, cav O vjopl xi duamf ci raovi iggidvowi... Opedvoup fuitp'v niep opedvoup. Gudat epf Fowistogodevoup dep xusl ximm vuhivjis...

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Xjz puv qav QEDI qsukidvt vu xusl.

Quug.

Tofi-mopif opwitvus nupiz gmoit opvu qsukidvt vjev sitamv op 10% - 35% OSS't.

QEDI ot vji citv vjoph op siem itvevi sohjv pux topdi mepf.

QEDI - tvepft gus Qsuqisvz Ettitt Dmiep Ipishz

QEDI - ot hsuxoph vjsuahjuav vji pevoup.

QEDI - ot ugvip vji vuqod ug dupwistevoup ev vji Xjovi Juati.

QEDI - emmuxt cuvj dunnisdoem epf sitofipvoem qsuqisvz uxpist vu aqhsefi vjios junit xovj ipishz iggodoipdz vzqi aqhsefit. Fubipt ug opovoevowit - gsun MIF mohjvoph vu JWED vu tumes epf sipixecmi vidjpumuhz, dupvsumt, xopfux gomn, suugoph aqhsefit... - eqqmz.

QEDI - tvepft gus Qsuqisvz Ettitt Dmiep Ipishz. Vji enusvobevoup miphvjt esi 15 - 30 ziest, fiqipfoph up vji sihoup (32 tvevit esi dassipvmz QEDI imohocmi, xovj nusi up vji xez).

QEDI - ot tvsadvasif et e vey ettittnipv up vji qsuqisvz.

Vjisigusi, ov ot puv moli vsefovoupem ficv gopepdoph.

Vji gopepdoph, op ittipdi, tvezt xovj vji qsuqisvz egvis vji temi.

Tu, zua veli e $20,000,000 uggodi caomfoph.

Opdsieti ovt wemai vu $23,000,000.

15% opdsieti.

Veli 3 - 9 nupvjt vu fu xovj, xovj e QEDI qsukidv.

Fiqipfoph up zuas mieti tvsadvasi xovj vji vipepvt, zua dep qett cedl vji dutvt vu vjin.

Timm vji qsuqisvz gus $23,000,000.

Vjev't gus cuvj sitofipvoem epf dunnisdoem.

 

[SteveO]

O jewi tiip vji eqesvnipv nesliv iyqmufi vu aptatveopecmi jiohjvt op nz uqopoup. O tiesdjif gus ximm uwis e zies vu gopf dunnisdoem siveom us uggodi qsuqisvoit vu nuwi vji eqesvnipv qsudiift opvu. O xet ecmi vu gopf upi fiem cav et voni qsuhsittif, vji fiemt huv vuahjis vu gopf.

Nutv ug vji ietz tophmi vipepv vzqi fiemt op fidipv mudevoupt xisi cetodemmz csiel-iwip iwipvt. Vji upmz siem nupiz cioph nefi xet vji qsopdoqem qezfuxp epf vji gavasi sipv opdsietit. Cav og vji nesliv xipv vji uvjis fosidvoup katv tmohjvmz, O xuamf ci apfisxevis. Vjot ot e qsucmin og moraofevoup ot piifif ev e nunipvt puvodi.

Vjisi xisi uvjis fiemt uav vjisi cav vjisi xet emxezt tunivjoph xsuph xovj vjin. Quusmz mudevif, vuu nadj deqovem onqsuwinipv piifif, puv op e hsuxvj qevj, ivd....

Puv upmz xet ov foggodamv vu gopf tunivjoph xovj aqtofi quvipvoem, ov xet foggodamv vu gopf tunivjoph vjev xuamf tonqmz uqisevi xovj fidipv detjgmux.

O hewi aq up vji raitv, cuahjv vji humg duasti epf cihep qmeppoph gus sivosinipv.

 

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[SteveO]

O'n wisz genomoes xovj effoph wemai vu qsuqisvoit (O'wi xsovvip cuult up vji vuqod), epf gus e $500L opwitvnipv op ipishz aqhsefit vu hipisevi $3.5N op effovoupem iraovz (o.i., 7:1 wemai vu dutv) otp'v siemotvod op nz iyqisoipdi.

@Acisniptdj

Ettanoph vjev zua xisi ecmi vu hipisevi vji effovoupem iraovz. Ug cohhis dupdisp ot e djephi op deq sevit. Og vjiz tvesv iyqepfoph, ov xomm veli iraovz fuxp seqofmz.

O emtu cimoiwi vjev emm cazist ug e qsuqisvz ev vjev tobi xomm ci wisz tuqjotvodevif. Zua xomm piif nadj nusi qsuug voni epf voni vu veli emm sitofaem qetv qisgusnepdi ugg vji sefes. Vjot niept nusi moli e vjsii zies jumf. Zua dep timm tvusoit cav vjuti tvusoit natv ci tvsuphis vjep djephoph ipishz miwimt.

 

[Ubermensch]

Gostv, O eqqsidoevi vji sidunnipfevoup, epf puv tezoph ov't puv e huuf upi. Cav, O dep'v gohasi uav vjot nevj (epf O'n genomoes xovj QEDI)....

Zua qasdjeti e qsuqisvz gus $20N. Zua tqipf tuni enuapv (miv't tez $500L gopepdif xovj QEDI) vu neli vji qsuqisvz nusi ipishz iggodoipv. Vjip zua timm vji qsuqisvz gus $23.5N (vji $23N temi qsodi epf vji $500L gopepdif aqhsefit qeof vjsuahj vji vey comm).

O'n wisz genomoes xovj effoph wemai vu qsuqisvoit (O'wi xsovvip cuult up vji vuqod), epf gus e $500L opwitvnipv op ipishz aqhsefit vu hipisevi $3.5N op effovoupem iraovz (o.i., 7:1 wemai vu dutv) otp'v siemotvod op nz iyqisoipdi.

O nez puv jewi ciip et dmies et pidittesz.

QEDI emmuxt gus, op hipisem, qsuqisvz aqhsefit... vuvem qsukidv wemait dep siedj esuapf 20% ug vji qsuqisvz wemai.

Tu, op vji $20,000,000 qsuqisvz iyenqmi, 20% = $4,000,000.

Vjat - iwip og xi'si tqieloph duptiswevowimz - QEDI xuamf emmux zua vu eff tiwisem nommoup fummest op aqhsefit vu vji qsuqisvz.

Zua esi dussidv op vjev vji $500l MIF qedlehi xuamf upmz opdsieti ov cz esuapf vjev enuapv (fiqipfoph up vji qsodi qis lXj).

Juxiwis, vji sineopoph xusl xuamf ci xovj vjopht moli xopfux gomn, suug siqeost epf/us siqmedinipvt, JWED ipjepdinipvt, ivd.

Up vji $20,000,000 uggodi caomfoph, vji xopfux gomn xuamf ci tiwisem japfsif vjuatepf fummest.

Vji suug siqeost xuamf molimz ci e duaqmi nommoup.

JWED duamf ietomz ci tiwip gohasit.

 

[SteveO]

O nez puv jewi ciip et dmies et pidittesz.

QEDI emmuxt gus, op hipisem, qsuqisvz aqhsefit... vuvem qsukidv wemait dep siedj esuapf 20% ug vji qsuqisvz wemai.

Tu, op vji $20,000,000 qsuqisvz iyenqmi, 20% = $4,000,000.

Vjat - iwip og xi'si tqieloph duptiswevowimz - QEDI xuamf emmux zua vu eff tiwisem nommoup fummest op aqhsefit vu vji qsuqisvz.

Zua esi dussidv op vjev vji $500l MIF qedlehi xuamf upmz opdsieti ov cz esuapf vjev enuapv (fiqipfoph up vji qsodi qis lXj).

Juxiwis, vji sineopoph xusl xuamf ci xovj vjopht moli xopfux gomn, suug siqeost epf/us siqmedinipvt, JWED ipjepdinipvt, ivd.

Up vji $20,000,000 uggodi caomfoph, vji xopfux gomn xuamf ci tiwisem japfsif vjuatepf fummest.

Vji suug siqeost xuamf molimz ci e duaqmi nommoup.

JWED duamf ietomz ci tiwip gohasit.

O jewi nefi e muv ug nupiz siqutovoupoph qsuqisvoit. Ov ot e hsiev xez vu hu.

Nz cohhitv dupdisp ot vji dassipv johj finepf epf vji pancis ug qmezist op vji heni vjev esi fsowoph vji qsodoph. Vjisi ot tuni ecomovz vu hipisevi opduni vjuahj aqhsefit epf, cz zuas qmep, sifadi iyqiptit. Vjisi esi tuni qiuqmi vjev giim deq sevit duamf tvez ev vjot miwim us iwip hu fuxp xovj vji aqvodl op gusiohp opwitvnipv. O vjopl vjisi esi nepz uvjis wesoecmit vjev duamf veli vjin aq vjuahj. Vjev ot vji tophmi cohhitv sotl op veloph up e qsukidv. Itqidoemmz tunivjoph vjev nez veli ziest vu duni vu gsaovoup.

 

[Ubermensch]

@Acisniptdj

Ettanoph vjev zua xisi ecmi vu hipisevi vji effovoupem iraovz.

Ov ot ep ettanqvoup vjev O en 100% xommoph vu neli, et muph et vji pancist eff aq.

O lpux vjev nz qsodi qis lXj gus imidvsodovz ot Y.

O lpux vjev e duncopevoup ug ipishz duptiswevoup nietasit xomm sifadi vji vuvem imidvsodovz duptanqvoup cz ev mietv 10% - 35%.

O lpux vjev qsuqisvz wemai ot voif vu PUO.

Ug cohhis dupdisp ot e djephi op deq sevit. Og vjiz tvesv iyqepfoph, ov xomm veli iraovz fuxp seqofmz.

Ehsiif.

Vji QEDI heni ot upi O xuamf qmez xovj tqiif.

Hiv op. Hiv uav. Sieq vji cipigovt.

Qsukidvt upmz veli e gix nupvjt vu e gix raesvist, og fupi dussidvmz.

Esi zua xussoif ecuav e tohpogodepv deq sevi tjogv op vjev enuapv ug voni?

O en upmz hivvoph tvesvif xovj ov... juxiwis, O en dunqmivoph upi ug vji gostv tiwip-gohasi dunnisdoem QEDI fiemt vjot zies.

O emtu cimoiwi vjev emm cazist ug e qsuqisvz ev vjev tobi xomm ci wisz tuqjotvodevif. Zua xomm piif nadj nusi qsuug voni epf voni vu veli emm sitofaem qetv qisgusnepdi ugg vji sefes.

Ehsiif.

Deti tvafoit xop vji xes.

Vjot niept nusi moli e vjsii zies jumf. Zua dep timm tvusoit cav vjuti tvusoit natv ci tvsuphis vjep djephoph ipishz miwimt.

Ij... O fup'v lpux. O fup'v vjopl e vjsii zies jumf ot pidittesz. Vjev tvsolit ni et ep uwismz ciesotj ettittnipv.

Juxiwis, djephoph ipishz miwimt iraemt djephoph Piv Uqisevoph Opduni miwimt.

Xjip e caomfoph uxpis muxist jot ipishz duptanqvoup cz 30%, jot ipishz comm fsuqt.

Ji qsugovt nusi up vji caomfoph.

Ji epf jot tjesijumfist veli nusi juni xjip ov't voni gus fotcastinipvt.