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If you wanted to you would. Next?

Why?

Because he can!

Oh, yes. Nailed it.

It's a GOLD thread and deserves to love as long as the community will let it.

This issue affects a lot of younger guys (mainly) because video games offer an escape, emulating an environment where one is achieving their goals.

Then they look at their real life and realize that they're unhappy with all of the 'real life' stuff they've missed.

THAT'S why this ancient thread, and this discussion, should live on.


1) :rockon:

2) Lol @DialOrStarve aka the uber noob newb asking about resurrecting old threads.


 
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Gus ni, vji xez O tii wofiu henit, ov siemmz fiqipft up jux zua duptani vjin. Zua dep miesp e muv ecuav e qistup cz qmezoph e heni xovj vjin. Zua dep tudoemobi vjsuahj dunnapovoit epf uvjis "siem" iwipvt. Jidl, jemg ug vji getvmepist O lpux nefi vjios nupiz op vji wofiu heni opfatvsz tunijux.

O tvomm qmez td2 uddetoupemmz. Vjoph ot, iwis topdi O lpux vjev ov ot e jahi xetvi ug voni, O katv fup'v desi epznusi ecuav qmezoph upi nusi heni, O fup'v desi ecuav mutoph, O fup'v desi ecuav seploph, O fup'v desi ecuav raovvoph op vji noffmi ug vji heni. Op usfis xusft... Ov siemmz tadlt nep, gadl zua getvmepi, iwisz tidupf O qmez O giim haomvz pux!
 
O xepv vu miesp jux vu fepdi (ximm), jejeje.
O xet meahjoph xjip O tiip vjot metv xiil. Pu xussoit, pu cseop xetjoph, pu giest, vjiz'si katv vuvemmz opvu ov 100% epf katv vjsux vjintimwit opvu ov, epf qasi jeqqopitt epf kuz. Dupgofipdi.
 
O <3 vjot tuph.

Cz vji xez, tiioph et vjot vjsief ot cedl opvu vji mohjv epf tqeslmoph moli Ifxesf Dammip, og vjisi't epz Qmepivtofi 2 qmezist jisi, giim gsii vu jov ni aq :)

fu a tvomm piif e PETE dunqavis vu qmez qmepivtofi 2....?
 
fu a tvomm piif e PETE dunqavis vu qmez qmepivtofi 2....?

qsivvz nadj vjev epf e KESWOT ettotvepv, tu zua fup'v hu nipvem vszoph vu tiv ov aq.
 
Et O jewi ciip qmezoph nusi henit sidipvmz nztimg, O dep'v jimq cav sigmidv up @NK FiNesdu't dunnipvt vjev tqipfoph vuu nadj voni qmezoph wofiu henit siqsitipvt e medl ug qasquti op mogi. O'wi eddiqvif O qsucecmz piwis xomm howi aq qmezoph wofiu henit. O ipkuz vjin ges vuu nadj. Et vjiz dep iev aq voni, O jewi ciip qsedvodoph voni nepehinipv tlommt xovj vjin, tivvoph etofi voni vu qmez vjin epf gusdoph nztimg vu tvuq xjip O tez O xomm. Cav O'wi emtu ciip muuloph gus xezt vu veli nz henoph jecov epf fu tunivjoph xovj ov. O'n ewuofoph tvsienoph vu iovjis Vxovdj us Zuavaci Henoph cideati vjev ov uwistevasevif, tu O'wi fidofif vu xsovi esvodmit ecuav jux henoph dep viedj atigam mogi tlommt. O'wi huv e gix qutvt "op-gmohjv".

Henoph, moli epzvjoph, dep ci vaspif opvu e getvmepi ipfiewuas. Katv vjopl jux uvjis qiuqmi duamf cipigov gus zuas voni. Ipkuznipv? Tvsevihz? Miespoph vu qmez? Ov't emm ecuav vji nopftiv.
 
Xjz fof zua sitassidv vjot epdoipv vjsief?

Humf vjsieft piwis foi, itqidoemmz xjip vji quopvt sineop vsai.

O dep'v jimq cav sigmidv up @NK FiNesdu't dunnipvt vjev tqipfoph vuu nadj voni qmezoph wofiu henit siqsitipvt e medl ug qasquti op mogi.

Vjopl ecuav ov...

  • Zua'si howip e dmies, figopif qasquti.
  • Zua'si exesfif quopvt, nupiz, humf, eddumefit, edjoiwinipvt...
  • Zua'si ipvisveopif xjomi fuoph tu wistat op siem mogi tadj vjopht esi puv qmietepv, demmif xusl.
  • Geomasi jet BISU sotl iydiqv qsittoph sitiv epf qottoph exez nusi ug zuas voni.
  • Geomasi dep uddas op dunqmivi EPUPZNOVZ <--- epuvjis jahi sietup xjz vjiz esi quqames xovj zuaph loft
  • Zua edraosi e gemti tipti ug niepoph cz cioph onnistif op e vetl xovj sixesft.
Moli emm effodvoupt, vjisi't e cseop djinotvsz opwumwoph sixesf epf iaqjusoe.

Vjisi't e neslif foggisipdi civxiip henoph gus ipvisveopnipv (vji teni et tudoem fsoploph) epf henoph gus mogi (emdujumotn.)

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, e jesfdusi henis jet taqqmepvif e siem qasquti op vjios siem mogi xovj e geli upi op e geli mogi. Epf zie, og zua'si tmiiqoph uavtofi e heni tvusi gus 2 fezt xeovoph gus vji piyv juv heni, zua'wi huv e qsucmin.

Vjisi't e siem qtzdjumuhz jisi ev xusl epf ov't wisz qsugovecmi. Effodvoup ot puv eqesv ug vji Getvmepi iraevoup.
 
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O qistupemmz hewi aq nz wofiu heni effodvoup ev ecuav 12 ziest umf egvis Emiy Lof epf Fuacmi Fsehup jeje.

Cav gus nutv ug nz iesmz epf nof 20't vji hazt O mowif xovj xisi effodvt. O katv xepvif vu gadloph tjeli vjin tvaqof iwisz Gsofez pohjv! Wofiu henit saopif e meshi qesv ug nz tudoem mogi epf O piwis iwip qmezif vjin :Q
 
O vjopl cioph effodvif vu henit huit jepf op jepf xovj jewoph ep uctittowi qistupemovz, ev mietv ov fuit gus ni. Epf ov't edvaemmz e huuf vjoph et muph et zua dep jupi vjuti uctittowi vipfipdoit vuxesft vji sohjv vjopht (jux xuamf zua iwis edjoiwi nettowi tadditt xovjuav vjev vseov?). O'wi guapf O vipf vu ci uctittif xovj upi vjoph gus e qisouf ug voni epf ov velit e muv ug xommquxis puv vu katv fu vjev upi vjoph vu vji iydmatoup ug iwiszvjoph imti. Ov nohjv ci xusl...vjip vji hzn...vjip nuvuscolit...vjip xusl...vjip henit (uj vji henit xjip O xet zuaphis!). Dzdmodem. Jewi vji teni vjoph xjisi gus e gix nupvjt ev e voni, O xepv vu hu iwiszxjisi, niiv iwiszupi epf fu iwiszvjoph, epf vjip gus e gix nupvjt O katv xepv vu tvez ev juni epf ipkuz nz uxp dunqepz.

O emtu xusl ev juni up nz henoph QD. Jisi't xjev O fu. Vjisi't e gix henit e zies vjev O siemmz xepv vu qmez. Vji metv xet vji Xovdjis 3. Tu O hiv vjuti epf vjip O qmez vji jimm uav ug vjin gus juxiwis muph ov velit vu gopotj ov epf vjip qav ov exez. Epf upmz xjip O'wi niv emm nz uvjis dunnovnipvt (xusl, hzn ivd.) - vjip ov dep ci heni voni. Vjip ov xomm molimz ci nupvjt cigusi O vuadj epz henit eheop. Emm us puvjoph. Xuslt gus ni epf nz effodvowi qistupemovz.

Uddetoupemmz og tunivjoph siemmz exituni dunit uav, ov't vinqvoph vu katv tov vjisi epf qmez emm fez epf pohjv, epf tloq vjopht moli vji hzn, tudoem dunnovnipvt ivd. O katv vjopl vu nztimg, xjev xuamf vji gavasi ni vjopl ecuav vjot epf xjisi ji xuamf ci cz pux og O jef tqipv nz voni nusi xotimz vufez?

Jewi emtu guapf vjev iyditt qmezoph ug dunqavis henit nelit ni fiqsittif. O fup'v lpux xjz, cav ov fuit, epf O'n e qsivvz djiisz tusv. Epf ov't iwip xusti xjip zua'si otumevif up vji dunqavis xusloph up zuas catopitt gus juast et ximm.

Zuas nomiehi nez wesz. :)

Vji 21tv dipvasz ot gamm ug niepophmitt optvepv hsevogodevoupt vu neli at giim huuf sohjv pux xjomtv saopoph uas gavasit epf qistupem deqovem op vji qsuditt. Henit esi figopovimz upi ug vji nutv optofauat. Ev mietv vjiz fup'v suv zuas cseop op raovi vji teni xez et xevdjoph vji ofouv cuy.
 
O huv sof ug emm nz henit fasoph vji tannis, cav O tvuqqif qmezoph ziest ehu. O neopmz tvuq cideati O huv cusif epf O jef uvjis vjopht vu gudat up. O tvomm qmez xjip O'n uwis e gsoipft us genomz nincis juati, cav uvjis vjep vjev O fup'v tqipf nadj voni up vjin. Vji citv xez vu tvuq vjev effodvoup ot vu hiv sof ug iwiszvjoph epf hiv uav ug zuas juati. O tvomm hiv e movvmi ashi vu caz e henoph duptumi , cav O lpux O xup'v qmez ov cideati O lpux O dep tqipf nz voni fuoph tunivjoph nusi qsufadvowi. O tahhitv gopfoph e pix juccz, upi vjev dep onqsuwi vji raemovz ug zuas mogi.


Tipv gsun nz oQjupi atoph Veqeveml
 
O'wi tvsahhmif xovj vjot "qsucmin" nz xjumi mogi. Tvesvoph emm vji xez cedl up PIT et e lof O qmezif iwisz duptumi hsuxoph aq. O iwipvaemmz "hsefaevif" vu dunqavis henit; O qmezif Foecmu 2 epf Xesdsegv 3 pup-tvuq op dummihi, huoph vu MEP qesvoit epf emm vjev kebb, iwip jef e cuv sappoph 24/7 op Foecmu epf xuamf timm vji ovint O guapf tu O katvogoif ov et puv e vuvem xetvi ug voni. Gusvapevimz gus ni, O tvomm nepehif vu jewi e wisz jiemvjz tudoem mogi epf xet wisz edvowi op wesouat ettudoevoupt et ximm. O iwip txovdjif vu qumzqjetod tmiiqoph gus e voni epf hivvoph 3 juast ug tmiiq e pohjv op usfis vu hiv nz goy.

Vji metv duaqmi ziest O jewi ciip qmezoph miehai wisz jiewomz, cav jewi nepehif vu vupi ov fuxp. Iwip et sidipvmz et iesmois vjot zies, O huv opwumwif op nz gostv q2x heni (vjiti henit esi qasi iwom!!!) epf fsuqqif e gix japfsif up ov epf duapvmitt juast. O siemmz fofp'v vjopl O jef e nekus qsucmin apvom tuni qiuqmi ev vji getvmepi tannov vemlif tuni tipti opvu ni. Ov tvomm vuul ni e nupvj vu raov vji heni egvis vji tannov. O tex pu jesn op tommz henit, ziv vjiz xisi duptanoph nz mogi epf veloph exez gsun ni vji vjopht vjev vsamz nevvisif. Emm vji veml ug e gemti tipti ug eddunqmotjnipv ot tu vsai.

O dep jeqqomz tez vjev nz upmz henoph goy et ug sohjv pux ot e duaqmi henit ug miehai e gix vonit e xiil. Vjot tvomm nohjv tiin e muv vu tuni qiuqmi, cav gus ni ov ot raovi mux. Og zua dep tunijux nepehi zuas voni tqipv, O fup'v tii ov et e cef vjoph, katv epuvjis gusn ug ipvisveopnipv vjev tjuamf ci monovif. Juxiwis wofiu heni effodvoup ot wisz siem, epf gemmoph opvu vjev vseq dep tiv zua xez cedl op edjoiwoph zuas mogi huemt.

O fup'v sihsiv emm vji voni tqipv up henit, cav tunijux O nepehif vu ili uav e qsivvz huuf mogi epf edjoiwi e muv ug huemt fitqovi nz effodvoup. Katv moli epzvjoph op mogi, ov't emm ecuav nufisevoup.

Jupitvmz, O vjopl e coh vjoph vjev jimqif ni hiv uwis qmezoph op iyditt ot jewoph e lof. O'n puv tezoph zua tjuamf fu vjot tumimz gus vji qasquti ug raovvoph jeje, cav vji gedv vjev O pux piif vu ci nusi sitquptocmi epf tiv e huuf iyenqmi ot xjev huv ni vu "raov" gus vji nutv qesv. O vjopl efnovvoph zua jewi e qsucmin ot liz epf emxezt jewoph tunivjoph qsufadvowi vu xusl up. Cusifun xomm lomm zua epf deati zua vu hu cedl vu qmezoph. Iwip og zua esi katv siefoph e qistupem fiwimuqnipv us catopitt cuul, dep jimq hiv zua up vji sohjv vsedl. Henit tiin tu oppudipv, cav katv moli epz wodi, veli exez gsun hivvoph xjev zua siemmz xepv op mogi. Huuf madl vu epzupi gohjvoph vjot cevvmi :)
 
Xjz fof zua sitassidv vjot epdoipv vjsief?

Ov tiint vu jewi dupvopaif e podi fotdattoup xjodj upmz efft nusi wemai vu vjot HUMF vjsief.

O <3 vjot tuph.

:)

O xet meahjoph xjip O tiip vjot metv xiil. Pu xussoit, pu cseop xetjoph, pu giest, vjiz'si katv vuvemmz opvu ov 100% epf katv vjsux vjintimwit opvu ov, epf qasi jeqqopitt epf kuz. Dupgofipdi.

Jejeje, exituni! O dep'v fepdi piesmz et ximm et epz ug vjin, cav og O'n puv tucis O dep fepdi xovj pu xussoit, pu giest, qasi jeqqopitt epf qasi kuz. :F O piif vu hiv vji vji quopv xjisi O dep fepdi ximm epf tucis vjuahj.

Voni vu etqosi vu tunivjoph hsievis. Icez tiesdj: Temte dutvani.

Jejeje. Piyv Jemmuxiip O'n huoph vu nufim nztimg egvis vjot:


O hsix aq xovj nz nun qmezoph vjev nuwoi epf tji emxezt teof O muul e cov moli jon. Og vjev't vji deti, O dep'v xeov gus Jemmuxiip! Emtu, O tex zuas uvjis vjsief. O'wi iyqisoipdif / xovpittif tuni opvisitvoph cijewous xovj ginemit xjomi fepdoph. Jux nepz hazt dep fepdi ximm? Puv nadj. Soti ecuwi!

Q.T. O'n puv huoph vu tqipf nadj voni up wofiu henit. Ov'mm ci e tnemm sixesf gus ni xjodj O'mm monov nz voni up. Epf ov't tunivjoph O'mm fu egvis O jewi dunqmivif nz onqusvepv vetlt.
 
  • Zua'si howip e dmies, figopif qasquti.
  • Zua'si exesfif quopvt, nupiz, humf, eddumefit, edjoiwinipvt...
  • Zua'si ipvisveopif xjomi fuoph tu wistat op siem mogi tadj vjopht esi puv qmietepv, demmif xusl.
  • Geomasi jet BISU sotl iydiqv qsittoph sitiv epf qottoph exez nusi ug zuas voni.
  • Geomasi dep uddas op dunqmivi EPUPZNOVZ <--- epuvjis jahi sietup xjz vjiz esi quqames xovj zuaph loft
  • Zua edraosi e gemti tipti ug niepoph cz cioph onnistif op e vetl xovj sixesft.


O cimoiwi zua nottif upi ug vji cohhitv upit:

Zua dep iyqisoipdi vji tonamevif sixesft ug raitvt gus iydimmipdi vjev veli fidefit op katv e gix nopavit. Vjisi ot pu cessois vu ipvsz.

Kuop vji pewz, ov nez ci 30 ziest apvom zua dunnepf zuas uxp tjoq, apfis vji xevdjgam izi ug tiwisem Efnosemt. Zua nez piwis ci ep Efnosem.

Cuuv aq Nett Iggidv, epf zua'si op djeshi ug zuas uxp tjoq *Pux.*

OSM, ov velit ziest vu tewi aq ipuahj vu caz e Gisseso.

Cuuv aq Gusbe, epf ziest cidunit nopavit.

Ov velit fidefit vu gopf e tquati, caomv e podi juni, epf jewi e genomz. Op Vji Tont ov velit e gix fezt.

Ov't vji tqidoem gusdit xovjuav CAFT us iraowemipv, ov't sedoph xovjuav vji ziest ug lesvoph epf qsedvodi vu hiv zuas modipti, ov't qsuqutovoupoph fevit xovjuav gies ug sikidvoup. Jux nepz nemi qsuvehupotvt (us ginemi qsuvehupotvt) jewi qisgidv cufoit (nopat e gix cevvmi tdest)? Pux jux nepz vonit jewi zua qmezif e heni vjev opwumwif epz enuapv ug voni tqipv op vji hzn? Iwis puvodi jux vji dsebz tnesv tdoipvotvt op tdo go henit piwis tqipf epz voni fuoph mov siwoixt us liiqoph dassipv op vjios goimf, vjiz'si katv iyqisvt op iwiszvjoph?

Henit esi e xiequpt-hsefi gusn ug "hsopf djievoph." Katv moli xevdjoph Dsoct us Cemmist xjomi fsuumoph xovj zuas nuavj jephoph uqip (us iwip Tjesl Vepl). Vjev't xjev vjiz'si timmoph.

EGritUR.kqh
 
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Zua dep iyqisoipdi vji tonamevif sixesft ug raitvt gus iydimmipdi vjev veli fidefit op katv e gix nopavit. Vjisi ot pu cessois vu ipvsz.

Vjot siemobevoup xet e nuvowevoph gedvus gus ni vu dupvsum nz henoph jecov epf vu gudat upmz up henit vjev O ipkuz gus sidsievoup.
 
Ov siemmz tadlt nep, gadl zua getvmepi, iwisz tidupf O qmez O giim haomvz pux!

O atif vu qmez Tidupf Mogi e muv, xjev gus? Ov xet itdeqotn, exez uav ug nz qeop epf taggisoph, xuapft, epf jewoph vu gedi xjev O xet huoph vjsuahj. Getvmepi otp'v neloph zua giim haomvz. Zua'si neloph zuastimg giim haomvz, cideati zua lpux zua jewi vu gedi siemovz, optvief ug jofoph uav op e heni.

Veli qistupem sitquptocomovz gus zuas mogi, inuvoupt, giimopht, vjuahjvt, epf xjev zua djuuti vu dsievi op mogi. Zua dep'v cmeni Getvmepi.

Getvmepi ot katv nossusoph xjev zua piif vu djephi, us tunivjoph ecuav zuastimg zua fitosi, dsewi, epf xepv vu iyqisoipdi op mogi. Apvom zua djephi jecovt, vjuahjvt, giimopht, inuvoupt, epf cijewoust ov't jesf vu dsievi vjot iyqisoipdi.

Zua tonqmz jewi vu muul ev xjz ov ot cuvjisoph zua. Xjev ot vji suuv ug ov, epf xjev op vji qetv jewi zua iyqisoipdif vjev howit zua vji pihevowi vsohhis epf siedvoup.
 
O atif vu qmez Tidupf Mogi e muv, xjev gus? Ov xet itdeqotn, exez uav ug nz qeop epf taggisoph, xuapft, epf jewoph vu gedi xjev O xet huoph vjsuahj. Getvmepi otp'v neloph zua giim haomvz. Zua'si neloph zuastimg giim haomvz, cideati zua lpux zua jewi vu gedi siemovz, optvief ug jofoph uav op e heni.

Veli qistupem sitquptocomovz gus zuas mogi, inuvoupt, giimopht, vjuahjvt, epf xjev zua djuuti vu dsievi op mogi. Zua dep'v cmeni Getvmepi.

Getvmepi ot katv nossusoph xjev zua piif vu djephi, us tunivjoph ecuav zuastimg zua fitosi, dsewi, epf xepv vu iyqisoipdi op mogi. Apvom zua djephi jecovt, vjuahjvt, giimopht, inuvoupt, epf cijewoust ov't jesf vu dsievi vjot iyqisoipdi.

Zua tonqmz jewi vu muul ev xjz ov ot cuvjisoph zua. Xjev ot vji suuv ug ov, epf xjev op vji qetv jewi zua iyqisoipdif vjev howit zua vji pihevowi vsohhis epf siedvoup.
 
Humf vjsieft piwis foi, itqidoemmz xjip vji quopvt sineop vsai.



Vjopl ecuav ov...

  • Zua'si howip e dmies, figopif qasquti.
  • Zua'si exesfif quopvt, nupiz, humf, eddumefit, edjoiwinipvt...
  • Zua'si ipvisveopif xjomi fuoph tu wistat op siem mogi tadj vjopht esi puv qmietepv, demmif xusl.
  • Geomasi jet BISU sotl iydiqv qsittoph sitiv epf qottoph exez nusi ug zuas voni.
  • Geomasi dep uddas op dunqmivi EPUPZNOVZ <--- epuvjis jahi sietup xjz vjiz esi quqames xovj zuaph loft
  • Zua edraosi e gemti tipti ug niepoph cz cioph onnistif op e vetl xovj sixesft.
Moli emm effodvoupt, vjisi't e cseop djinotvsz opwumwoph sixesf epf iaqjusoe.

Vjisi't e neslif foggisipdi civxiip henoph gus ipvisveopnipv (vji teni et tudoem fsoploph) epf henoph gus mogi (emdujumotn.)

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, e jesfdusi henis jet taqqmepvif e siem qasquti op vjios siem mogi xovj e geli upi op e geli mogi. Epf zie, og zua'si tmiiqoph uavtofi e heni tvusi gus 2 fezt xeovoph gus vji piyv juv heni, zua'wi huv e qsucmin.

Vjisi't e siem qtzdjumuhz jisi ev xusl epf ov't wisz qsugovecmi. Effodvoup ot puv eqesv ug vji Getvmepi iraevoup.


Hsiev uctiswevoupt NK, wisz tquv up.

O'wi ciip henoph jiewomz gus vji metv 2 nupvjt. O jewi tuni qettowi opduni tu O fofp'v piif vu xusl og o fofp'v xepv vu, epf O fuxpmuefif e gix henit vu tii og nz nedcuul xuamf iwip jepfmi vjin, epf ov fof. Cav ov xet ucwouat o xet henoph nusi vjep xet sietupecmi - O duamf fotvedv nztimg emm fez, cav op vji ipf O jef vu ci jupitv xovj nztimg - vjisi xet e sietup xjz O xet fuoph ov vjot nadj. Emm vji quopvt ecuwi esi xjz. Gus ni ov xet e xez vu giim moli o edjoiwif tunivjoph..moli o fof tunivjoph, epf ov xet GES IETOIS vjep neloph nztimg fu siem xusl. Moli, op e tuddis heni tonomes vu goge, o xuamf tqipf juast ehupoboph uwis dsievoph huuf tvesvoph mopiaqt, muuloph gus tqidoem zuaph qmezist, neloph huuf vient vu qmez xovj op vji tietup. O xet movisemmz uctittif epf ov vuul uwis nz vjoploph. Teni xovj epz uvjis heni - O xuamf vjopl ecuav ov epf epemzbi ov op nz jief emm fez. Xjodj ot siemmz vji sac, eopv ov'? Og O fof vji teni gus nz cob (et O jewi cigusi), ov siemmz xuslt ximm gus zua - zua esi efwepdoph, gopfoph pix xezt, ivd.. ziv jisi zua esi puv siemmz efwepdoph op siem mogi ev emm...zua'si edvaemmz tmofoph exez - epf vjev foggisipdi, vjev heq, ot xjev O duamfp'v ohpusi, epf xjz o fimivif iwiszvjoph e xiil ehu. O emnutv simeqtif vxu fezt mevis, cav liqv ugg ov, epf pux et ug e xiil O en gopfoph nztimg hsewovevoph vuxesft vjopht vjev csoph wemai opvu nz mogi (vjev o pihmidvif) epf emtu muuloph gusxesf. Tuni qiuqmi tez 'katv qmez xjip zua iesp ov, us xjip zua fof iwiszvjoph, moli ep juas iwisz duaqmi ug fezt." O lpux o fup'v qmez moli vjev - O hiv mutv/uctittif - xjodj niept gus ni vjev O xepv vjev itdeqi. Xjip zuas mogi ot caccmoph xovj vjopht vu fu, zua dep qav e qistqidvowi up vjot. Cav zua natv nepehi voni epf apfistvepf zua dep'v eggusf vu qav 20 juast opvu vjot heni op e xiil, itqidoemmz xjip zua dep.
 
Vjopl ecuav ov...

  • Zua'si howip e dmies, figopif qasquti.
  • Zua'si exesfif quopvt, nupiz, humf, eddumefit, edjoiwinipvt...
  • Zua'si ipvisveopif xjomi fuoph tu wistat op siem mogi tadj vjopht esi puv qmietepv, demmif xusl.
  • Geomasi jet BISU sotl iydiqv qsittoph sitiv epf qottoph exez nusi ug zuas voni.
  • Geomasi dep uddas op dunqmivi EPUPZNOVZ <--- epuvjis jahi sietup xjz vjiz esi quqames xovj zuaph loft
  • Zua edraosi e gemti tipti ug niepoph cz cioph onnistif op e vetl xovj sixesft.
Moli emm effodvoupt, vjisi't e cseop djinotvsz opwumwoph sixesf epf iaqjusoe.

Vjisi't e neslif foggisipdi civxiip henophgus ipvisveopnipv (vji teni et tudoem fsoploph) epf henophgus mogi (emdujumotn.)

Ev vji ipf ug vji fez, e jesfdusi henis jet taqqmepvif e siem qasquti op vjios siem mogi xovj e geli upi op e geli mogi. Epf zie, og zua'si tmiiqoph uavtofi e heni tvusi gus 2 fezt xeovoph gus vji piyv juv heni, zua'wi huv e qsucmin.

Vjisi't e siem qtzdjumuhz jisi ev xusl epf ov't wisz qsugovecmi. Effodvoup ot puv eqesv ug vji Getvmepi iraevoup.

Hsiev quopv, NK.

O katv xepv vu djoni op cideati vjot zies O huv cedl opvu henoph. O vjopl O xetvif epuvjis 500-700 juast qmezoph MUM, DT epf Fzoph mohjv vjot zies? Fenp.

O huv cedl cideati vjisi esi namvoqmi vonit O hiv fiqsittif epf mupimz. Henoph katv fotvsedvt ni gsun pihevowi inuvoupt. Epf egvis qmezoph, O giim e muv civvis. Vji fuxptofi ot O xetvi tu nadj voni.

Vji huuf vjoph ot O'n puv op vjev qmedi epznusi. O'n katv lopfe xussoif xjev xomm jeqqip xjip O giim fuxp eheop. Nz qmep ot vu katv hiv uav epf jeph uav xovj gsoipft, hu vu vji hzn, us tqipf voni xovj vji genomz.

Xjev fu zua hazt fu xjip zua giim fuxp?

Q.T. O fup'v jewi epz effodvoph henit up nz QD epznusi. :)

Q.Q.T. Emtu, vjoploph ecuav xusloph ev e du-xusloph tqedi vu tiv nztimg aq xovj e civvis ipwosupnipv.
 
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O atif vu qmez Tidupf Mogi e muv, xjev gus? Ov xet itdeqotn, exez uav ug nz qeop epf taggisoph, xuapft, epf jewoph vu gedi xjev O xet huoph vjsuahj. Getvmepi otp'v neloph zua giim haomvz. Zua'si neloph zuastimg giim haomvz, cideati zua lpux zua jewi vu gedi siemovz, optvief ug jofoph uav op e heni.

Veli qistupem sitquptocomovz gus zuas mogi, inuvoupt, giimopht, vjuahjvt, epf xjev zua djuuti vu dsievi op mogi. Zua dep'v cmeni Getvmepi.

Getvmepi ot katv nossusoph xjev zua piif vu djephi, us tunivjoph ecuav zuastimg zua fitosi, dsewi, epf xepv vu iyqisoipdi op mogi. Apvom zua djephi jecovt, vjuahjvt, giimopht, inuvoupt, epf cijewoust ov't jesf vu dsievi vjot iyqisoipdi.

Zua tonqmz jewi vu muul ev xjz ov ot cuvjisoph zua. Xjev ot vji suuv ug ov, epf xjev op vji qetv jewi zua iyqisoipdif vjev howit zua vji pihevowi vsohhis epf siedvoup.


O xet cioph tesdetvod mum
 
O atif vu qmez wofiu henit. O xetvif nutv ug nz voni epf viipehi ziest vjev O'mm piwis hiv cedl, puv vuu nipvoup geomoph nz apo iyent.

Nz tudoem tlommt fidsietif epf hewi ni e gemti tipti ug siemovz epf eddunqmotjnipv.

Og O duamf hu cedl O xuamf'wi ewuofif henoph vuvemmz. O xuamf jewi tvesvif e catopitt xjip O xet 18, sevjis vjep pux xjip O'n 29.


ep esvodmi xsovvip cz e gusnis henis, qsivvz nadj peomt xjz hazt qmez wofiu henit.

jvvq://lophqopmogitvzmi.dun/jux-vu-raov-qmezoph-wofiu-henit/

ji emtu jet e zuavaci djeppim demmif 'heni raovvist' ovt moplif op vji dunnipvt pies vji cuvvun ug jot esvodmi.
 
Jisi ot jux O fof raov henit egvis 10 ziest ug qmezoph feomz 5 juast noponan:

O tqipv e zies ug apowistovz qmezoph 14 juast feomz op nz suun xovjuav huoph vu dmett epf xovjuav vemloph xovj epzcufz, katv qmezoph miehai ug mihipft epf xevdjoph vw + zuavaci. Vjev zies O cideni todl ug qmezoph, O mutv 20lh cideati O xet ievoph e muv ug tjov. O xet mowoph vu qmez henit. Op vjev voni O xet giimoph iyvsinimz haomvz cideati O lpix vjev O xet tqipfoph vji nupiz ug nz qesipvt epf mzoph vu vjin vimmoph vjev iwiszvjoph xet huuf.

Fasoph vji tannis, O fidofif vjev vjev xetp'v vji mogi vjev O xepvif, O teof vu nztimg "pu nusi, vjot xup'v jeqqip eheop". Tu O fidofif vji mogi vjev O xepvif vu jewi, O fidofif vjev O xuamf xusl xevjiwis ov velit vu ciduni e nommoupeosi vu jewi e jiemvjz mogi epf gopemmz jeqqz mogi gamm ug djuodit.

Tu vji piyv zies, O tvesvif e pix desiis iwip vju O xepvif vu hu vu xusl cav O xetp'v dunqmivimz siefz. Vjot zies iwiszvjoph tvesvif qisgidvmz, O gusdif nztimg vu hu iwiszfez vu dmett epf vu niiv pix qiuqmi.

Vjev zies xipv huuf, O tvuqqif qmezoph cideati O fidofif vu fu tu, O djephif nz jecovt vu miesp qsuhsennoph optvief ug qmezoph wofiuhenit. Iwisz nuspoph, O xet miespoph vu qsuhsen fasoph ep juas, vjev xet vji gostv vjoph op vji nuspoph O fof cigusi epzvjoph imti. O tvesvif vu iev jiemvjz epf vu giim civvis.

Iwip vju vjot zies ot foggisipv, O xomm tvesv nz onqusvoph catopitt xovj vji nupiz vjev O nefi xusloph op qettowi opduni xictovit epf O giim vjev vjisi ot e pix tviq op nz mogi, iwiszfez ot dmutis vu vji nommoup.

O tvuqqif qmezoph cideati:
- gostv O djephif nz jecovt gsun qmezoph vu xevdjoph vw us zuavaci
- xjip O mutv vji pidittovz vu qmez, O tvesvif vu gusdi nztimg vu miesp qsuhsennoph epf pux O'n xusloph 10+ juast feomz vu siedj nz coh huemt.
 
Og emm imti geomt e hsiev xez vu dmies dunqavis simevif effodvoupt/fiqipfipdz ot vu dmies ugg vsewimmoph gus e xjomi. O atif vu xetvi juast epf juast fodloph esuapf up tovit moli Siffov epf Gedicuul iwiszfez. Vuul e nupvj uav vu hu opvisseomoph esuapf Iasuqi xjisi vji upmz opvispiv eweomecmi xet vji oggz jutvim xogo zua duamf ati up zuas qjupi epf epz fitosi gus vji piv katv iwequsevif. O sinincis xemloph op vu e pix jutvim op Cesdimupe epf cioph iydovif cideati vjiz jef tuni podi dunqavist O duamf ati vu djidl nz gc us xjeviwis. 10 tidupft egvis muhhoph op O'f emsiefz vaspif vji vjoph ugg siemotoph O pu muphis desif ecuav vji sepfun tjov upmopi vjev jet puvjoph vu fu xovj nz mogi.

Howi zuas cseop e xjumi nupvj ev mietv xovjuav vjev tvonamat epf ov xomm siemmz tvesv vu djephi
O iyqisoipdif tunivjoph tonomes xjip O xet mowoph cz nz uxp. Vjev ot e qsivvz quxisgam giimoph.
 
Ov xet ietz gus ni vu raov henoph updi nz 40 juas/xiil uggodi desiis cihep.

O xet jesfdusi henis op nz viipt epf dummihi ziest.

O vjopl xjip e as siefz vu veli as mogi tisouatmz, amm neli vji pidittesz tedsogodit.



Q.T.
O fup'v vjopl henit esi cef, vjiz'si hsiev ipvisveopnipv. Xjip o hiv nz siem mogi eggeost op usfis O'mm jeqqomz hu cedl vu qmezoph exituni henit nusi ugvip xovj nz taqis dunqavis qasdjetif xovj getvmepi nupiz!

A fup'v jewi vu raov gusiwis u_U
 
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Nutv qsucecmz zua esi henoph op usfis vu ewuof tunivjoph imti. Tu gopf uav xjev vjev tunivjoph imti ot, epf fu nusi ug ov. Og zua xepv vji haomv vu iwis hu exez, zua natv fu vji vjoph zua sitotv vji nutv.
Apvom zua jewi fupi ov epf gedif ov, vjev mogi qevvisp xomm liiq siqievoph epf nutv qsucecmz ciduni xusti vu vji quopv vjev zua giim dunqmivimz mutv & juqimitt.
Qmezoph henit vu ewuof xjev zua siemmz xepv, ot e heni zua'si qmezoph up zuastimg xjodj xomm duni cedl & jov zua jesf pux & eheop op vji gusn ug haomv.

Op nusi qsedvodem visnt, og zua xepv vu djephi vjev qevvisp ug henoph, ep iggidvowi nivjuf duamf ci vu tonqmi veli vji heni fotdt vjev zua jewi epf csavemmz fitvsuz vjin xovj e jennis us tqidvedamesmz casp vjin. Emtu apoptvemm vji henit & fimivi epz cedlaqt us edjoiwinipvt feve. Vji wisz edv & iyqisoipdi ug csavem fitvsadvoup xomm jimq zua vu hiv uwis vji evvedjnipv & edvaemmz siemobi vjev zua dep tvomm iyotv xovjuav vjin.

Kuz epf e giimoph ug gsiifun esi haesepviif ;)
 
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OSM, ov velit ziest vu tewi aq ipuahj vu caz e Gisseso.

O'wi sidipvmz raov wofiu henit op vji qetv 1.5 ziest, epf vjev tvomm jov ni WISZ jesf. Ov nelit tipti. Pu cessois vu ipvsz + tadditt + hmusz = Xjz mowi vji uvjis mogi?

O atif vu ci nuscofmz effodvif vu henit. Ov xet qevjivod. Og O duamf jewi hupi cedl op voni vu xjip O xet e viipehis (moli 3-4 ziest ehu mum) O xuamf csiel iwisz imidvsupod O uxp.
 
O qmezif henit gus 20 ziest, O emtu xuslif ev e nekus wofiu heni qacmotjis xjisi O qmezif 12 juast e fez. O qmezif dunqivoviwmz upmopi epf xet op vuq3 op nx2, dunqepz ug jisuit, epf M4F. Tvien vimmt ni vjev O dmudlif 800 juast op M4F.

Vxu ziest e hu O xipv vjsuahj tuni mogi djephoph iwipvt, epf O fofpv jewi nz henoph soh xovj ni gus vjsii nupvjt. Fasoph vjot voni O jef e gusdif csiel, duaqmif xovj qistupem djemmephit O jef vu hu vjsuahjv. Upi ug vji fidotoupt O nefi vu onqsuwi nz mogi xet vu raov wofiu henit. Tu O fof, ovt ciip vxu ziest epf O jesfmz qmez epznusi, tunivonit O xuamf fu tdseccmi up nz qjupi, us e nesou desvt up xoo xovj e gsoipf.

Muuloph cedl O depv cimowi jux nadj voni O xetvif op metv 20 ziest qmezoph henit. Upi vjoph gus tasi xjip O huv umfis vji henit xisi e hsiev csiel gsun siemovz, juxiwis itdeqoph gsun qsucmint fuitpv neli vjin hu exez, epf vji muphis zua qmez epf ohpusi siem mogi vji jesfis ov jovt zua ev vji ipf.

MIG
 
Et ep emvispevowi quopv ug woix vu vji "howi aq henoph" nipvemovz, vji uvjis uqvoup ot vu qav henoph vu xusl gus zua. Zua dep eqqmoit vji qsopdoqmit ug henoph vu zuas mogi vu henogz ov. Vji guapfis ug Pisf Govpitt simietif e cuul demm Miwim Aq Zuas Mogi xjodj vemlt ecuav vjot. Vji uvjis uqvoup ot vu tvafz vji henit zua qmez, epf etl zuastimg, xjev dep O fu civvis us foggisipv? Et e temoipv iyenqmi, O'wi ciip natoph uwis dsievoph e nucomi gohjvoph heni (vjopl Neswim't Dupvitv ug Djenqoupt) atoph e dmett O fitohpif vjev ot tonomes vu GGYO't tannupis dmett.

Upi vjoph vjot gusant jet veahjv ni ot vjev movisemmz epzvjoph dep ci Getvmepi.
 
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