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How much sleep do you get?

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8 hours.

Sleeping less may work for some people, but not me. The whole "grinding nonstop" thing is BS. I've found that the day after those late nights/early mornings my quality of work is a lot lower.

But that's just me. It's all about finding your sweetspot.
 
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8 hours.

Also this topic is dumb because it leads to this kind of thinking:

Sleeping less would really increase my free time.

Sleeping less doesn't make you more productive. Chances are you're already unproductive with the time you do have. Concentrate more on using your time well before adding more time.

For example, if you sleep 8 hours a day, that means that you have 16 hours of time to be productive. If you're a normal person, you're probably productive 2 hours out of that 16 hours. Concentrate on increasing that 2 hours to 10 hours instead of adding more time. Because let's say you sleep 4 hours a day. That gives you 20 hours of time to be productive. Do you really think you're going to hit 20 hours of productivity? If you're only being productive for 2 hours? At a maximum 10 hours?

To illustrate this point further - Lebron James and Roger Federer sleep 12 hours a day. It shouldn't be considered a coincidence that the greatest athletes in their sport, with minimal to no injuries, are also the ones that give their bodies the necessary time to rest. You don't need that much time for mental work, but the more time the better.
 
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Counting hours of sleep is like counting hours of work. Just b/c you're doing it doesn't mean you're getting it done.

Quality of sleep dictates how productive you are the next day.

- Get a great mattress (not good, but great)
- Check your cycles (you sleep in 90 min periods)
- Add greens into your dinners (anything that will increase the iron in your blood)
- Workout in the morning or noon, not at night (at night you may skip it if you're too exhausted)
edit: figure out what works best for you, there's not much conclusive evidence showing one is better or the other.​
- Drink some OJ when you're feeling burnout setting in throughout the day
- If you're stressed at the end of the day, do some meditating and relax before you get into bed. Camomile tea is great for this. (remember, you're an ant on a rock floating through space among billions of other rocks, among billions of other galaxies. None of this is going to matter in 100 years. There's plenty of worse things that could happen than Betty in accounting splattering ink everywhere. Push the cartridge in until you hear the click Betty, UNTIL YOU HEAR THE CLICK.)
 
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I believe we have another large, heavily debated thread dedicated to sleep.

I sleep 5-6 hours a day. Have been doing so for about 3 years.

As a side note Marcus Lemonis sleeps 5-6 hours a day as well.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/why-...rs-a-week-and-works-the-rest-of-the-time.html

I'm at about 8-9 hours. I usually wake up around 9am, but on weekends I actually wake up earlier at 8am for some reason. I don't set an alarm, I just wake up whenever I do.
 
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You can try it, but remember: There are no biological free lunches.

I would just figure out how to use your time more wisely.

If you do decide to sleep less, just do a week on/week off. Stagger it somehow.
 
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I never count the hours personally.

I fall asleep when I'm tired, and wake up whenever I naturally wake up.

From a business productivity standpoint - I don't know if this is the most productive option. But for health/stress reduction/not feeling tired all day - and I have more mental energy to focus on the tasks at hand.
 

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I shoot for 8 and land at about 7 hrs per night.

I used to do the whole 'sleep when I'm dead' thing and get 4-5 hrs per night. Then sleep deprivation caught up with me. The fatigue, memory problems and overall brain fuzziness were not fun.
 

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I'm at about 8-9 hours. I usually wake up around 9am, but on weekends I actually wake up earlier at 8am for some reason. I don't set an alarm, I just wake up whenever I do.
No alarm here either. Just wake up when my body tells me.
On the the topic of waking up without an alarm.

It seems whenever I tell myself I will wake up at "X" time, i seem to ALWAYS wake up plus/minus 5 minutes of that time

Just had to share
 

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Today I started reading one of Trump's books and he tells how he only sleeps 4 hours at night. I started researching on this and came up with this article:

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-guy-has-only-slept-45-hours-per-day-for-two-years-2013-11

Sleeping less would really increase my free time.

How much sleep do you get?
Now I sleep 6-7 hours on average... but I already had period where I only sleep 5hrs by day and I feel very good during this time !!! someday, I only sleep 4hrs by night but in.this case I do a 20mn NAP at the lunch....
I read a lot about polyphasic sleep and it's a concept that inspire me. I create a business now and I have a JOB, so to conbined the two, I will try the polyphasic sleep in the next 3 months to power the launch of my LLC..... :) I will give you return if you want, wathever it's negative or positive.... :)
 
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Question for those of you that sleep less than six hours a night (@AllenCrawley @StarKodomo @Arun Siva). How would y'all rate the quality of your sleep? Are you following specific bedtime rituals, using really comfortable mattresses, etc?

I can sleep for 8-9 hours but still feel like shit, or get exhausted halfway through the day. And less than 6 can make me loopy or depersonalized. But, I tend to sleep on an aging, saggy mattress and I wake up multiple times throughout the night.
Very good sleep. We do we have pillow top mattress with a 3" topper. Very comfortable. I also drink bulletproof coffee every day. Try to eat as paleo as possible. Those two things really help with energy levels.
 
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Question for those of you that sleep less than six hours a night (@AllenCrawley @StarKodomo @Arun Siva). How would y'all rate the quality of your sleep? Are you following specific bedtime rituals, using really comfortable mattresses, etc?

I can sleep for 8-9 hours but still feel like shit, or get exhausted halfway through the day. And less than 6 can make me loopy or depersonalized. But, I tend to sleep on an aging, saggy mattress and I wake up multiple times throughout the night.
I sleep very deep and well. Nothing too special about our mattress though. It is newer (i think), less than 4 years old.

I'm with [HASHTAG]@AllenCrawley[/HASHTAG], I usually start my day with a large black coffee.

Lately though, my wife has been complaining about me snoring. It seems the more tired I am, the louder I snore at night.
 

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I would say probably 2 weeks after doing it on a hardcore level without missing no days out. But it all boils down to the task your doing. I don't do a lot of physical work, I mainly use my computer so it was easy. But for someone who is running a huge corporation or a just a small to mid level business it would be pretty hard over a period of time if they have to be there all the time in order to run it.

What I understood is that when it comes on to polyphasic sleeping, it depends on the different types of work that you have to do throughout the day and how much energy it's going to take to complete them. Nikola was a a guy who was known to only sleep four hour days and yet still he was a very great scientist and inventor. So if someone is working on a construction site through out the day, polyphasic sleeping would be very hard.

I wish there were more hours in the day because there is so much stuff I would do with it productively :). But I am grateful for the 24 hours we get. You have to move smart and think critically about how you spend your time. I have studied time management and It has helped me out alot.

Yess. Thank you for sharing.

I'd love Nikola Tesla !! Yes he only sleeped 4hrs/day.
Ok I understand that it depend about the tasks we have to do during the day and, for sure, everybody is different...

So, like a business idea, it's only by trying that we will have an answer !!!!

Thank you and I will give you my experience
 
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Portion management helped me with not feeling like taking a nap after a big meal.
Also, taking supplements helps with focus and energy levels. Water with lemon is pretty fantastic too.

Before evaluating whether one sleeps for too long or too little, it important to evaluate whether you are maximizing your free time.
Even if you sleep 10 hours. How productive are your 14 waking hours?

A pretty good book is a Power of Full Engagement. Main point - you want to manage your energy first. If you have energy, you will be able to use your available hours in a quality fashion.

I remember where I would have a 3 hour window of time to work but would not get much done due to low energy, desire to sleep, or lack of focus.

Free Time & Energy = Dependent on each other.
 

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Guys, give up sugar. It's hidden everywhere. It's addictive and does more harm than you think. (Sounds like a movie trailer. I know.)

For example, one common misconception is that fruit juice is healthy. No, it's not - be it as fresh as you like, it contains about the same amount of sugar as coke. And it has no fibres which should slow digesting (like fruit has). And it doesn't satisfy your hunger. And it brakes your teeth. And it is a step closer to insulin resistance plus other awful shit that can happen to you. And so on.

Eat right things in right amounts. Drink ordinary water (I see no reason for drinking Alkali water every day, food's and body's pH levels are different things. No need for debate, everyone do as you like.) Exercise and recover. Plus getting rid of life-bothering emotions and thoughts, consciousness/mindfulness and other "weird" things (yoga anyone?).

Also, one VERY important key is how you start your day (morning ritual). Another thread, another time.
 
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At the moment, it's around 8 hours. More and I'm wide awake in bed, less and my eyes won't open.



Agree with all your points, except this one.
Getting your bloop pumping is good, there really is no time for it. Also it has the added benefit of pumping oxygen to your brain, which help you recover and sleep even better.
I second going easy on sugar, and not eating before going to bed.

Sleep is the result of being tired. If you do nothing to tire your body, you will get poor quality sleep. If your body is exhausted (within reason), you will get good quality sleep.

You're right, there's not much conclusive evidence that working out morning or night matters. (edited the post to reflect)

High intensity workouts are also great destressers, but I find morning to be more advantageous.

At night, you may be swamped or drained from the day. Doing it in the morning before the business day starts keeps me more consistent.

(This goes without saying, but I feel many people miss it. Everything you read from others' experience should be tested. Take what works for you, and apply it to your process.)
 

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Well lately, I have been sleeping only 5 hours and trying to get my body to get used to it. There are days I want to take a nap, but I manage to stay awake the whole day. I have experienced that what you eat, and a lot of exercise also plays a lot in being able to manage a day with minimum 5 hours of sleep. I also stopped eating past 7pm, and I am drinking more water. I also have a couple of more pounds to loose, a good physical image brings me more confident.
 

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I'm at about 8-9 hours. I usually wake up around 9am, but on weekends I actually wake up earlier at 8am for some reason. I don't set an alarm, I just wake up whenever I do.
No alarm here either. Just wake up when my body tells me.
 

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Today I started reading one of Trump's books and he tells how he only sleeps 4 hours at night. I started researching on this and came up with this article:

http://www.businessinsider.com/this-guy-has-only-slept-45-hours-per-day-for-two-years-2013-11

Sleeping less would really increase my free time.

How much sleep do you get?



I sleep from 5.30 to 6 hours a night. To acquire this habit took about a month. Winning a habit.

As an entrepreneur I made three hours every day all for me.

This time I read (quick read) study and memorize (by the method of skim programmed Matteo Salvo and mind maps).

You will not miss a second of this time and focus on what I do use Flat Tomato (Time management).

In the intervals of the study or read user Duolingo for English and Peak (Mind Training).

Here's my turn:
1) I wake up without the alarm clock at 4.20 a bit 'before the sound of the same.
2) I check my sleep with Sleep Cycle.
3) I weight.
4) I quickly a balanced protein breakfast.
5) Then I start my series to 40-15-5 (studying or reading - English language and Russian language training or mental - quick refresher of what I read or studied).
6) At about 8:30 am I go to the gym or to run at least 5 times a week.

I am very happy for this winning habit .
 
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Now I sleep 6-7 hours on average... but I already had period where I only sleep 5hrs by day and I feel very good during this time !!! someday, I only sleep 4hrs by night but in.this case I do a 20mn NAP at the lunch....
I read a lot about polyphasic sleep and it's a concept that inspire me. I create a business now and I have a JOB, so to conbined the two, I will try the polyphasic sleep in the next 3 months to power the launch of my LLC..... :) I will give you return if you want, wathever it's negative or positive.... :)
I tried it couple times, It worked better than I expected at first but after a while I feel like my body began to deteriorate. I began to feel lazy and tired. I think it's a great thing to do occasionally but continuously after a while your body began to shut down unexpectedly. For instance I decided that I am going to sleep for 30 minutes but instead I woke up in like 2 hours after.

I know other persons such as computer programmers who don't seem to get much sleep at all(probably 2 - 3 hours a day). They believed that sleeping 8 hours is an illusion. So they wired their mind over a long period of time to don't sleep much and still do productive work. I would encourage you to still try it because it would be interesting to hear your story and feedback on the polyphasic sleeping methodology .
 

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5-6 on weeknights.

It is one of the worst things about my life that I am truly working to change. My cognitive abilities are so much better on a solid 7-8. I can't right now because of work and it sucks.

Sure, I lose 2 hours, if I sleep more. 2 hours that I can be doing things....but if I can perform better on more sleep...quality of work over quantity.
 

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Ok thank your for your return... :)

Question:

How many time after start the experience did you felt tired ????

To be honnest, me too I think that 8hrs sleep/day is an illusion.... I don't want to lose 10 or 15 years of living in my entire life !!!!! But I'm not sure if polyphasic sleeping method is the solution...

But, Yes I will try it and I will give you my experience !!!!!

See you soon

I would say probably 2 weeks after doing it on a hardcore level without missing no days out. But it all boils down to the task your doing. I don't do a lot of physical work, I mainly use my computer so it was easy. But for someone who is running a huge corporation or a just a small to mid level business it would be pretty hard over a period of time if they have to be there all the time in order to run it.

What I understood is that when it comes on to polyphasic sleeping, it depends on the different types of work that you have to do throughout the day and how much energy it's going to take to complete them. Nikola was a a guy who was known to only sleep four hour days and yet still he was a very great scientist and inventor. So if someone is working on a construction site through out the day, polyphasic sleeping would be very hard.

I wish there were more hours in the day because there is so much stuff I would do with it productively :). But I am grateful for the 24 hours we get. You have to move smart and think critically about how you spend your time. I have studied time management and It has helped me out alot.
 

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Yess. Thank you for sharing.

I'd love Nikola Tesla !! Yes he only sleeped 4hrs/day.
Ok I understand that it depend about the tasks we have to do during the day and, for sure, everybody is different...

So, like a business idea, it's only by trying that we will have an answer !!!!

Thank you and I will give you my experience

4 hours does seem like a bit too extreme but I've never tried it.
When we sleep, we are productive too. Our body does a ton of good things while we sleep.
However, I usually only get 6.5 hours. Used to need a nap...but not anymore.

If most of our daily activities are enjoyable, we can definitely forget about the need to sleep!
Remember how we were kids and parents would put a curfew on us and we'd hate it? Ideally, we'd look at sleep as curfew that we accept but not necessarily look forward to because we are having so much fun playing/fastlaning.

Typically, things like molecular biology and nuclear science will exhaust me within 1 hour or so... so I don't study them.
But reading business books/networking/researching ideas don't really exhaust me so I can keep doing them for a super duper long duration of time.

If we are engaged, time flies :)
 
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