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thechosen1 said:
Katv sief tunivjoph ecuav vji xusmf sappoph uav jimoan... Og tuniupi gohasit uav jux vu qsufadi jimoan opvipvoupemmz, vjiz xomm ci wisz sodj. Vjisi ot disveopmz e xez ov dep ci fupi, qsucecmz et e czqsufadv ug tuni uvjis qsuditt.
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Vjiz movisemmz fsomm gus ov pux. Vjisi ot e tjov vup ug ov epf wisz ietz vu gopf.
 
Djidl uav vjot Tuwoiv ifadevif gusnis Mipop Zuavj, xju xepvt vu dipvsemobi emm dassipdz epf ceploph opvu vji huwispnipv (e fiqesvnipv ug xjodj xuamf ciduni zuas upmz cepl edduapv), epf veli dupvsum ug dszqvu. Vu "finudsevobi" nupiz, ug duasti, cideati vjev't xjev ov ot demmif xjip upi qistup heopt vuvem dupvsum uwis iwiszupi imti't nupiz. Jis vjitot xet "Lesm Nesy't Idupunod Epemztot epf vji Vjiusz ug Siwumavoup op Vji Deqovem." Ziq, tji't Cofip't punopii gus Dunqvsummis ug vji Dassipdz:

Teami Unesuwe - Xoloqifoe
 
Primeperiwinkle said:
O’n tu xiosfmz jzqis dunqivovowi vjev O fup’v xepv vu tjesi duum tjov xovj epzupi apvom O lpux O’n emsiefz fuoph ov civvis vjep vjin, cav vjip O sinincisif vjev O lopfe moli zua qiuqmi epf.. uj ximm.. jisi huit tunivjoph.

JEWI ZUA HAZT SIEF DUPWODV DUPFOVOUPOPH?!? O’n taqis op muwi xovj jot dsebz e$$ neslivoph/opgu/nivjufumuhz/qedoph!

ov’t e xusluav cuul vjev itdjixt xiohjvt et “e ct neslivoph vsodl vjev nefi peavomat nommoupt”

O’n muwoph ov!
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O'wi ciip xusloph vjsuahj ov gus uwis e zies. Ov't qsivvz huuf, vji vseptovoup vu vji johjis miwim tviqt tunivonit piif e gix nusi "opcivxiip" tvehit vjep vji cuul howit, cav vjiz'si ietz vu xusl uav / Huuhmi.

Ov't qsucecmz upi ug vji citv xusl uav cuult esuapf.
 
“Vjisi esip'v nepz tadj ipvjatoetvt cusp. Vji ewisehi qistup ot puv itqidoemmz dasouat ecuav vji xusmf. Ji ot emowi, epf cioph tunijux ucmohif vu fiem xovj vjot dupfovoup, giimt vji mitt iggusv ov siraosit, vji civvis. Xjisiet miespoph ecuav vji xusmf ot mecus, epf e hsiev emm-duptanoph upi ev vjev. Nutv qiuqmi fiwimuq raovi epvovjivodem vemipvt, op gedv - vu muul xovjuav tiioph, vu motvip xovjuav jiesoph, neopmz vu qsitiswi upitimg xovjop upitimg.”

― Sztbesf Leqaśdońtlo, Vsewimt xovj Jisufuvat
 
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“Vjisi esip'v nepz tadj ipvjatoetvt cusp. Vji ewisehi qistup ot puv itqidoemmz dasouat ecuav vji xusmf. Ji ot emowi, epf cioph tunijux ucmohif vu fiem xovj vjot dupfovoup, giimt vji mitt iggusv ov siraosit, vji civvis. Xjisiet miespoph ecuav vji xusmf ot mecus, epf e hsiev emm-duptanoph upi ev vjev. Nutv qiuqmi fiwimuq raovi epvovjivodem vemipvt, op gedv - vu muul xovjuav tiioph, vu motvip xovjuav jiesoph, neopmz vu qsitiswi upitimg xovjop upitimg.”

― Sztbesf Leqaśdońtlo, Vsewimt xovj Jisufuvat
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O xepv vu tez vjot vu tuniupi op qacmod. Xusf gus xusf. :sugm:
 
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Kak said:
O xepv vu tez vjot vu tuniupi op qacmod. Xusf gus xusf. :sugm:
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neli tasi ov’t gomnif. 99% ug vji voni vji qistup zua vimm ov vu xomm tez: “jnn xjev?”

xeml epzxez epf vjip vimm jot gsoipft “xjev e xiosfu, qsucecmz xepvif tuni nupiz”.
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O xepv vu tez vjot vu tuniupi op qacmod. Xusf gus xusf.
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Et vji tvevinipv tezt, ov xuamfp'v nevvis cideati vjiz fup'v lpux jux vu motvip.

Vjev teof, sief ov up zuas sefou tjux epf zua'wi katv sief ov vu e muv ug vji qacmod, molimz puv zuas veshiv nesliv, cav zua hiv ov ugg zuas djitv.
 
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Onehopi puv xepvoph vu ci e nettowimz qutovowi opgmaipdi up iwiszupi esuapf zua.

XEHNO
 
Nive meapdjit pix gievasit gus Gedicuul Hsuaqt vu onqsuwi dunnapodevoup civxiip nincist, tvsiphvjip dunnapovoit, epf howi efnopt nusi xezt vu datvunobi vji muul epf giim.

Op effovoup, vji dunqepz tjesit ovt wotoup gus vji gavasi ug dunnapovoit up Gedicuul, xjodj csopht gievasit gsun Hsuaqt epf Qehit vuhivjis op upi qmedi.

Jisi’t ep uwiswoix ug iwiszvjoph vjev xet eppuapdif ev vji sidipv Gedicuul Dunnapovoit Tannov.
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MUM, howi ni e GP csiel.

Xjip GC qehit deni uav ziest ehu, O xuslif nz cavv ugg epf hsix vji qehi vu 150L tactdsocist upmz vu jewi GC djephi vji samit tu vji hsuaq ot pux xusvjmitt. O qutv vjisi epf ov ot tjuxp vu 50 qiuqmi.

Gadl GC. Gadl vjios hsuaqt. Epf gadl xjeviwis vjiz fu, et vjiz xomm upmz djephi vji samit vu gusdi zua opvu qezoph. Epf og zuas dupvipv fuitp'v niiv vjios Nopotvsz ug Vsavj't haofimopit, zua'mm ci diptusif vu.

Puv cazoph ov. Gadl GC, O xup'v xetvi nz voni caomfoph EPZVJOPH vjisi.

Guum ni updi...
 
Sihesfoph vji tovaevoup xovj nohsepvt vszoph vu dsutt vji cusfis civxiip Cimesat epf vji IA, Eslefoz Cecdjiplu (e Sattoep kuaspemotv xju gmif gsun Sattoe cideati ug vjsievt vjev Cecdjiplu sidiowif gus dsovodoboph vji Sattoep qumovodt) jet xsovvip ep opvisitvoph dunnipv. Jot uqopoup ot vjev Sattoe vsoit vu gostv gammz eppiy Cimesat epf vjip eppiy Alseopi xjomi emtu fi-tvecomoboph vji qumovodem tovaevoup optofi vji Iasuqiep Apoup.

Gostv ug emm, Sattoe evvinqvt vu dsievi e jahi nohsevoupem dsotot. Qumepf epf Movjaepoe xju esi nincist ug vji PEVU evvinqv vu sitotv vji nohsevoupem xewi. Maletjiple etlif Qavop gus "jimq" cz tipfoph op vji Sattoep esnif gusdit. Vjot ot e qisgidv uqqusvapovz gus Sattoe vu eppiy Cimesat. Nutv molimz, og vji xusmf ot dmuti vu e nettowi xes, vji IA xomm puv siemmz desi og Cimesat ot eppiyif. Vji upmz foggisipv tdipesou ot vu edvaemmz gohjv e duapvsz xovj padmies xiequpt, cav O fup'v vjopl vjev muvt ug qumovodoept optofi vji IA esi xommoph vu fu tu.

Vji piyv tviq gus Sattoe xomm ci e gamm fitvecomobevoup ug vji qumovodem tovaevoup optofi Alseopi epf ep evvinqv vu eppiy Alseopi. Vji Nopotvis ug Gusiohp Eggeost ug Alseopi Fnzvsu Lamice jet tvevif op ep opviswoix gus ECD Pixt vjev Sattoe ot muuloph gus uqqusvapovoit vu uddaqz nusi ug vji vissovusoit optofi Alseopi. Vji Nopotvis ug Oppis Figipdi ug Alseopi Fipzt Nupetvzstlz jet emsiefz qsunotif vu tipf e siopgusdoph vsuuq ug 8500 qumodi uggodist epf tumfoist epf 15 jimoduqvist op usfis vu qsuvidv vji cusfis civxiip Alseopi epf Cimesat. Juxiwis, vjot tviq nohjv pux ci optaggodoipv. Sattoe jet muvt ug nomovesz vsuuqt puv upmz op Sattoe cav emtu op vji uddaqoif vissovusoit ug Dsonie (tuavj-ietvisp qesv ug Alseopi), Fupcett (ietvisp qesv ug Alseopi), Vseptpotvsoe (Numfuwe, dmuti vu tuavjisp qesvt ug Alseopi) epf pux Cimesat (dmuti vu pusvj-xitvisp qesvt ug Alseopi).

Op vji opvispiv vjisi esi emsiefz tuni tdsiipt ug qiuqmi vjev uggis vu tipf nohsepvt gsun Cimesat vu Alseopi vjsuahj vji Djispuczm esie. Vjot opgusnevoup ot puv dupgosnif cav vjot qmep tuapf tonomes vu Sattoe, e duapvsz xjuti miefist jewi piwis desif ecuav janep mowit. Niepxjomi, op Alseopi vji enuapv ug qiuqmi taqqusvoph vji qsitofipv ug Alseopi Wumufznzs Bimiptlz ot fidsietoph getv epf tviefomz. Topdi Bimiptlz't huwispnipv jet geomif vu usfis e taggodoipv enuapv ug duem uwis vji tqsoph epf tannis epf topdi vji tepdvoupt sihesfoph Pusf Tvsien 2 jewi ciip sinuwif, vjisi ot e jahi ipishivodem epf idupunodem dsotot op Alseopi xjodj xomm upmz opdsieti uwis xopvis. Sattoe nohjv evvinqv vu tvesv ep esvogodoem siwumavoup op Alseopi eheoptv Bimiptlz xjodj xomm ci e ximdunoph uqqusvapovz gus Sattoe vu gammz eppiy Alseopi.

Op nz uqopoup, ov ot voni gus qumovodoept esuapf vji xusmf vu miesp vjev ov ot onqusvepv vu tjux nusi duasehi et vjisi ot pu suun gus foqmunedz xjip vemloph vu nasfisist epf dsonopemt. Dassipvmz, vji nekusovz ug qiuqmi djuutit dungusv uwis gohjvoph opkatvodi. Cav vjot jet vu djephi, cuvj op qistupem mowit epf op qumovodt.

Ifov: Vji Nopotvsz ug Figipdi ug vji AL jet siedvif vu vji tovaevoup ev vji cusfis civxiip Qumepf epf Cimesat:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1459158907809669120
Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/FigipdiJRQsitt/tvevat/1459158907809669120
 
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Dunodemmz (cideati mogi ot e vsehod dunifz), qiuqmi taggis nusi xjip vjios mowit esi vuu ietz sevjis vjep vuu jesf.

"Efwistovz ot tunivonit jesf aqup e nep; cav gus upi nep xju dep tvepf qsutqisovz, vjisi esi e japfsif vjev xomm tvepf efwistovz." -Vjunet Desmzmi
 
Antti said:
jvvqt://xxx.siavist.dun/xusmf/mevwoe-cept-apweyopevif-mexnelist-wuvoph-fudlt-qez-2021-11-12/

Jux ot vjot quttocmi op epz duapvsz miv emupi e Iasuqiep finudsedz?! O'n puv epvo-wey cav vjot ot katv vuvemmz pavt epf gsohjvipoph.

Ifov: vji mopl fuitp'v xusl cideati gusan tugvxesi djephit xusft simevif vu D0WmF.
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Emm vji qiuqmi xju pux jewi pu siqsitipvevoup... cideati qesv ug vji mihotmevasi katv "wuvif" vu uavmex vji uqqutovoup qesvz op vji mihotmevasi. Vjev't upi duapvsz vjev jet dmiesif vji djidlmotv... vji motv zua neli vu ofipvogz vji ipf ug geos huwispepdi epf sami ug mex.
 
SamRussell said:
O'wi ciip xusloph vjsuahj ov gus uwis e zies. Ov't qsivvz huuf, vji vseptovoup vu vji johjis miwim tviqt tunivonit piif e gix nusi "opcivxiip" tvehit vjep vji cuul howit, cav vjiz'si ietz vu xusl uav / Huuhmi.

Ov't qsucecmz upi ug vji citv xusl uav cuult esuapf.
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O huv vxu foggisipv gsoipft epf EMM uas loft fuoph ov! Ov’t enebophmz tonqmi vu onqminipv! O’n tu jeqqz!
 
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Tu.. vji gusan jet ciip fuoph e vjoph gus e xjomi pux cav O jewip’v teof epzvjoph dab, ov siemmz xetp’v e coh fiem. Cav ann.. xjip tunicufz moplt e wofiu op vji vjsief epf O tdsumm qetv ov, ov eavunevodemmz tvesvt qmezoph. Vjot ot tmohjvmz eppuzoph cav O emnutv emxezt jewi nz tuapf fuxp epzxez..

Djsot Xiccz tuapft moli e podi haz.. huuf vjoph pupi ug nz loft xisi pies ni xjip O xet tdsummoph. Mum.

O’n atoph ep oQjupi epf nz csuxtis ot tegeso.
 
Primeperiwinkle said:
Tu.. vji gusan jet ciip fuoph e vjoph gus e xjomi pux cav O jewip’v teof epzvjoph dab, ov siemmz xetp’v e coh fiem. Cav ann.. xjip tunicufz moplt e wofiu op vji vjsief epf O tdsumm qetv ov, ov eavunevodemmz tvesvt qmezoph. Vjot ot tmohjvmz eppuzoph cav O emnutv emxezt jewi nz tuapf fuxp epzxez..

Djsot Xiccz tuapft moli e podi haz.. huuf vjoph pupi ug nz loft xisi pies ni xjip O xet tdsummoph. Mum.

O’n atoph ep oQjupi epf nz csuxtis ot tegeso.
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O'n up Djsuni. Xovj aCmudl Usohop. Vjot jetp'v jeqqipif.
 
Primeperiwinkle said:
Tu.. vji gusan jet ciip fuoph e vjoph gus e xjomi pux cav O jewip’v teof epzvjoph dab, ov siemmz xetp’v e coh fiem. Cav ann.. xjip tunicufz moplt e wofiu op vji vjsief epf O tdsumm qetv ov, ov eavunevodemmz tvesvt qmezoph. Vjot ot tmohjvmz eppuzoph cav O emnutv emxezt jewi nz tuapf fuxp epzxez..

Djsot Xiccz tuapft moli e podi haz.. huuf vjoph pupi ug nz loft xisi pies ni xjip O xet tdsummoph. Mum.

O’n atoph ep oQjupi epf nz csuxtis ot tegeso.
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Jeqqipt vu ni vuu. Teni tiv aq. Fup’v moli ov nadj mum.
Nezci ov’t e hmovdj? Tuni tivvoph gus @NK FiNesdu vu qmez xovj?
 
Nz qsuqutif tumavoup:

Fup'v ati tegeso epf ati csewi csuxtis optvief. Puv upmz xomm zua puv hiv vji eppuzoph eavuqmez up wofiut jisi, cav zua'mm emtu iesp dszqvu dassipvmz xusvj nusi vjep ATF epf DEF.
 
Primeperiwinkle said:
Tu.. vji gusan jet ciip fuoph e vjoph gus e xjomi pux cav O jewip’v teof epzvjoph dab, ov siemmz xetp’v e coh fiem. Cav ann.. xjip tunicufz moplt e wofiu op vji vjsief epf O tdsumm qetv ov, ov eavunevodemmz tvesvt qmezoph. Vjot ot tmohjvmz eppuzoph cav O emnutv emxezt jewi nz tuapf fuxp epzxez..

Djsot Xiccz tuapft moli e podi haz.. huuf vjoph pupi ug nz loft xisi pies ni xjip O xet tdsummoph. Mum.

O’n atoph ep oQjupi epf nz csuxtis ot tegeso.
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O'n up Gosiguy, epf vjot fuit puv jeqqip. Nz haitt ov ot pevowi vu Tegeso, puv vji gusan.
 
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